theorycrafting

[distant python]

Perlica combo is a reaction proc not an inflictiom

[dry kindle]

actually wheres laev showcase

[unborn yoke]

and you have to eat the e with arc before to get the frontier buff

[normal tangle]

did v1.0 units even have a showcase

[dry kindle]

balls

[normal tangle]

no?

[dry kindle]

it doesnt specify energy

[distant python]

Fangyi passives are probably gonna do something with sundered blades like extra elec damage per blade active

[daring dove]

To be fair, it'll be a lot more than 50% more damage as well because I'm forgetting about the additional corrison damage which should have near 100% uptime. So it might be closer to a 70-80% team damage buff for 100 SP per rotation. I doubt anyone else is going to compete.

[robust vault]

surely fangyi isnt benching my avywenna

[normal tangle]

this is the only thing arclight wants to cast bs for, and it's lowkey not that important

you're already gonna get a ton of dmg dealt%

[median star]

In that case antal's combo would be real important to duplicate inflictions to generate blades faster right? And Perlica's combo doesn't help zhuang's rotation.

I don't know if gil can work even with her ult be cause we want blades as quick as possible right

[thorn shore]

in hindsight arc might be able to trigger this, swords have a duration and beyond summoning swords consuming electrification is useless right?

[distant python]

The showcase showed both of them together in a team comp

[normal tangle]

perlica combo helps zhuang rotation a lot, you just need to time it

[robust vault]

I saw but idk how cope that comp really is

[thorn shore]

so during ult cs bs spam theres a chance for arc to consume the electrification inflics?

[normal tangle]

i highly doubt that's a net positive on dmg when you can just cast fangyi bs again

[robust vault]

Ill def be trying to make it work since avy had the most investment tho

[normal tangle]

dmg dealt% is really not that valuable

[daring dove]

What are we thinking for a final team so far Fanyi / Perlica / Ardelia / SP generator?

[distant python]

Call me crazy but I don't think you want perlica since you want 2 stack infliction so perlica combo is mid, unless you want to use sp on perlica for infliction stacks

[thorn shore]

in hindsight arc might be able to trigger this, swords have a duration and beyond summoning swords consuming electrification is useless right?

[lyric latch]

from the video, Fangyi already gets like 2 electric dmg buffs and an arts dmg boost from cast her BS(prob from weapon/set effcts).

[thorn shore]

u only need 2 consumes

if ur talking abt the actual electrification effect

[rare zodiac]

Then again how you get electro infliction outside ult?

[thorn shore]

just consume twice then leave it on there

for arc trigger

[normal tangle]

i mean like just casting another 9sword EBS should do more damage than trying to get the little extra dmg

[dry kindle]

multiplier

[median star]

Oh Zhuang can consume Perlica's electrification right? But that requires using SP for Zhuang's battle skill to create just 2 blades tho

[lyric latch]

cooked outside ult start content

[thorn shore]

oh

[daring dove]

Do we think Fangyi finally makes this girl meta or is she simply not good enough?

[dry kindle]

were about to find out if p5 perlica elec is truly lv2

[normal tangle]

yes

[normal tangle]

it's lv1

[dry kindle]

p5 or whatever the fuck

the duration extender

[normal tangle]

still level 1

[rare zodiac]

I think it’s lv1 with higher mult

[normal tangle]

yeah

[distant python]

Idk, I don't remember if arclight has inflcit on bs or not

[lyric latch]

we should call it 1.5 electrify

[unborn yoke]

getting there

[undone phoenix]

Arch consumes eletrifications she's bad with Zhuang

[dry kindle]

thats just lv2 🗿

[dusk isle]

Fangyi seems like a more consistent dmg dealer than other operators we have, so she will get more value out of the corrosion which i havent really thought about

[normal tangle]

just don't cast bs bruh

[dry kindle]

or ult

[rare zodiac]

Who know? It’s for HG to decide

[lyric latch]

but it will not be considered lv2 for spawning more swords

[normal tangle]

?

[dry kindle]

who said

gotta wait for update

[normal tangle]

this is insane cope

whatever man

you can be in your bubble all you want ig

[dry kindle]

i forgor arc ult was stacks not elec

[normal tangle]

it's +1 infliction for free basically

[lyric latch]

unless Perlica in the video is not P5, it just spawns 2 swords

[normal tangle]

it's probably p0 in the demo but that doesn't matter

it's level 1 regardless

[lyric latch]

yeah

[thorn shore]

just need to be fast otherwise arcs ult will consume the infliction it just applied

[daring dove]

Is it time to break out best girl again then.

[dry kindle]

alesh didnt hit gold fish smh

[rare zodiac]

Ake again

[undone phoenix]

does anyone know if AL ult electrification level is based on how many elctro stacks were before?

[hardy rose]

Yes

It is

[sterile patrol]

All consume forced reactions are based on stacks

[unborn yoke]

vuln and ele stack eat each other or ignore each other ?

[undone phoenix]

another option i said before Zhuang + Perlica + Fluorite + Gilberta

[potent hornet]

arc ult first hit applies a stack, second hit checks for stacks and then applies elec based on the amount of stacks

[dry kindle]

im gonna laugh if its lv2

[daring dove]

We need a 6* generalist Arts SP generator ASAP to be honest.

[urban plaza]

Fluorite

[normal tangle]

god no we don't bro i need to save pulls after fangyi and gilb back to back

[unborn yoke]

blue bird

[lyric latch]

imagine if P1 Fangyi makes 3 swords with lv1 electrify

[potent hornet]

who is saving, we have Fang for like a month

[lyric latch]

I am saving

[normal tangle]

and then gilb rerun

which i am pulling because i still need her

[urban plaza]

pulling day1 and then save a month for new units

[dry kindle]

[normal tangle]

nah pull day 3

[dry kindle]

its not a rerun

[normal tangle]

meta tech

[undone phoenix]

Gilberta BS -> gather + nature stack
Floprite BS => another nature stack
2 stacks trigger fluorite CS => 3 nature stacks
perlica BS => lvl 3 electrification, if combine with her CS you can get 4 stacks

[unborn yoke]

so who gets the boot :I

[daring dove]

It'll be nice if her P5 is similar to Leavatain's that allows her to stay in her god form longer. Although even better would be allowing her to charge her ult while still in ultimate form.

[icy remnant]

Are we seriously going Ardelia Stanza

Does Ard Ult pause the timer

[daring dove]

Ardelia would be better with sig.

[lyric latch]

charging while in ult would be just insane

[dry kindle]

you cant run

[daring dove]

I mean they have to make her better than Tangtang to be worthy of a 37 day patch. So she does need a good kit & some nice potentials.

[drifting quest]

No one knows

[potent hornet]

the real question is do we have a weapon for her yet or will it be her sig or bust

[undone phoenix]

if Zhuang Potentials include reduce amounmt of electrification level for max swords gonna be opop

[drifting quest]

No one knows

[tight haven]

literally impossible to tell

[lyric latch]

Oblivion gaming is cooked since she is Will

[potent hornet]

i thought she was greatsword?

[tight haven]

a lot is riding on the new gear and fangyi's cycles

[lyric latch]

Arts Unit

[potent hornet]

did they show her with arts?

[tight haven]

she summons greatswords

[lyric latch]

yes

[potent hornet]

ahh

[unborn yoke]

arts making gil more valuable

[glass birch]

Fangyi's BS gets extra damage via the swords on the ground too so its not like you summon 9 and just let them sit

[tight haven]

if her dps is spread out enough i could see a case for gilb getting the boot

[potent hornet]

Fangyi, TangTang, Avy, Gilberta team inc

all the shit on the ground

[tight haven]

tangtang is always in the convo too yeah

[potent hornet]

lol. Fang, TangTang, Arc, Giberta

[glass birch]

#EntryHazards

[potent hornet]

sp recovery, sp regen, arts and buff

team done

[dry kindle]

and energy

[drifting quest]

The sample team was fangyi avy arclight perlica but the sample team track record isnt good

[knotty yoke]

It’s safe to level up will/attack/suppression essence right? There’s no way they’ll change it?

[normal tangle]

i have no clue what avy is even doing there

[unborn yoke]

is there a way to squueze frontier into that fang tang tang arc gil without is clunkieng up the rota ?

[thorn shore]

i was told having electrification consumption gives modifiers, but if you could just let 9 of them be there and not need to resummon more for the duration of those 9 then it wouldve freed up some time for arclight to get her buff going

[fresh trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1492541740601577472/gif2.gif

@bronze plume

[tight haven]

they will not change this

[fresh trench]

I made this gif with sfm,I CANT DO THIS

[tight haven]

literally just elec with ult

its really funny

[thorn shore]

and some elec sus

[mint grove]

huh? change what?

[tight haven]

will/atk/supp for her weapon essence

[daring dove]

That's Supreme Chief too you.

[dry kindle]

@sterile patrol pixel count the ult energy for us okty

[mint grove]

fangyi's weapon?

[tight haven]

yep

[sterile patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1118551166968672376/1179330378805288990/20231129_145725.gif?ex=65796401&is=6566ef01&hm=eac5ffe2c93de236aa65a8faab7b6a7fdf1cbee2e418526f733353c1018fbe74&

[tight haven]

her sig

not the bp weap

[dry kindle]

do it

[glass birch]

10 Energy, +10 per sword on the ground

[glass birch]

🤣

Oh wait its only 25% with 9 so each sword is like 5

[lyric latch]

cant believe Fangyi ult costs 400

[dry kindle]

i cant even tell what the fuck 10 energy is

[distant python]

What the fuck is energy I just press buttons until I have ult

[drifting quest]

Last time we were off because of extra energy

[glass birch]

I meant 5 not 10. You get 25% of your total energy from using BS when there's capped swords on the ground (9)

[drifting quest]

Not hugely

[distant python]

What are our thoughts on the potential new gear pieces

[dry kindle]

yq7wgeubhqwenjqwklewq

even the fucking combo scales on elec stacks

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[drifting quest]

They look cool

[unborn yoke]

the new cc cuts down the operators two two right wich are the best 2 man combos

[drifting quest]

Probably prebuilt fangyi bis

[dry kindle]

new xira set funny

[distant python]

What does it do

[dry kindle]

10% atk 45% dmg for fangyi

[drifting quest]

Chendmin

[hardy rose]

So avy and fangyi should be fine together in a kind of dual dps style. Since avy doesn't consume anything. nice

[dry kindle]

wearer attack +10%
consuming reactions grants 1 stack per level. 3 stack cap
each stack increases arts damage by 15% for 25 seconds

[feral fractal]

what are yall trying to figure out rn

[chilly bolt]

Lr+xaihi gonna be fun

[lyric latch]

the CC and 2 Operator fights are separate events I think

Tangtang Xaihi

[hardy rose]

Correct

[chilly bolt]

Lr+tt

[drifting quest]

CC might have a tag that drops you to 3 slots

But it wont be a default thing

[distant python]

And no other DPS except fangyi will consume reactions

[edgy crater]

well, hg can still give minus 2 slot on team for cc tag

[edgy crater]

the more concern like, which class got banned lol

[potent hornet]

i'm ready for some real endgame content

[unborn yoke]

i just cant that we get back to back dragons as operators i love it

[drifting quest]

Defender ban free tag deal

[glass birch]

Who?

[edgy crater]

yap lol

[distant python]

[dry kindle]

inb4 striker ban

[distant python]

Support ban

[drifting quest]

Monophys lmao

[unborn yoke]

isnt mifu and the after and the new char

[dry kindle]

so what the fuck is fangyi combo energy even

[distant python]

Support ban also just causes mono phys tbh

[lyric latch]

Fangyi apparentely is a Kylin according to the official site

[drifting quest]

Mifu is a sarkaz

[dry kindle]

other green woman is sui

[glass birch]

1.2 is only fangyi and we have no clue who's after in 1.3. Could be mifu, could be the libri from 1.2 story, who knows.

[edgy crater]

oh w8, all pysical are guards

[median star]

Ok I am back with another rotation guessing attempt now that I assume electrification so don't stack. How does it look?

Team:
Zhuang
Perlica (combo cooldown 19s)
Antal (combo cooldown 24s)
Arclight (combo cooldown 3s)

1. Perlica use BS, apply 1 infliction
2. Antal use combo, apply 1 infliction
3. Finisher
4. Zhuang use combo, convert to electrifyx2
5. Zhuang use BS, create 3 blades
6. Use Arclight combo, restore SP
7. Perlica use combo, apply 1 electrify
8. Zhuang use BS, create 2 blade
9. Use Arclight combo again, restore SP
10. Zhuang use ult then BS, create 3 blades. Apply 1 infliction
11. Zhuang use combo, convert to electrify. Combo cooldown is 4s (right?)
12. Zhuang use BS, hit max 9 blades
13. Arclight use combo, restore SP
14. Repeat Zhuang combo, arclight combo, and Zhuang BS until ult ends
15. Repeat rotation
16. Note: Arclight ult will consume infliction. Use after Zhuang BS.

[distant python]

Vanguard ban + no natural sp regen, GL fuckers

[edgy crater]

nah

ban vg rarely happened

[dry kindle]

vg ban in cc

when -75% dp

yeah

good idea

[edgy crater]

[distant python]

I mean perlica + snow shine and TT could be potential man comp

[edgy crater]

aint we got dat on daily before, dat quad class bannee dat end up cheese with scene

ill pick defender ban on 1st sight

[distant python]

I would take a support ban first cause I play ember physical

[edgy crater]

just kick ember n now u can pick defender n supprter ban

[dusk isle]

Phys players when guard ban

[unique valley]

aparently this is giving OG Arknights players PTSD, now I'm a bit worried

[edgy crater]

not guard banned

[dusk isle]

Cryo core when guard ban

[edgy crater]

its fun event, except dat fucking gundam

[mint grove]

meh, only for flexers. it's pretty mild to clear only for rewards

[lyric latch]

guard ban only Pog remains...

[edgy crater]

holy moly 2m sleeping gundam or dat matroska gundam

[dusk isle]

Mfw vanGUARD 🥀

[distant python]

It's fine I have like 4 half built teams

[dry kindle]

https://youtu.be/QgUAH_siYuo

[dusk isle]

Pog got to go bru

[edgy crater]

those 2 mob really

[distant python]

I have Yvonne, electric, Rossi and standard physical

[unique valley]

I'm being educated hazza!

[edgy crater]

its really rare vg got banned, its usually guard/caster

[distant python]

Support ban, Gil users in shambles

[knotty yoke]

What weapons for perlica and arc light in zhuang team?

[distant python]

It's always thermite on every vanguard ever tbh

[lyric latch]

noooo. not my Tang... 🥀

[dusk isle]

Thermite and choice of obli deto ww

[edgy crater]

but here, we can easily pick defender ban lol

unless hg implement new ban revolving weap used

orb user ban

[distant python]

Laughs in mono phys

Sword user ban

Would be very funny

[edgy crater]

hg : sword ban

it will lol

[distant python]

Aka vanguard ban

[glass birch]

Rip all thermite users

[distant python]

Sword ban is just vanguard ban with extra steps

No lava

[edgy crater]

vg n guard ban

[distant python]

Yvonne team go brrrr

[edgy crater]

no alesh

[distant python]

Who

[edgy crater]

also 0 ulti

[distant python]

My Yvonne team is yvonne, TT , Gil and xaihi

No sword user needed

[dusk isle]

We will get caster and supporter ban and i will clear with a godawful team consisting of lr alesh estella akekuri, trust

[glass birch]

No catcher?

[distant python]

Catcher shatter team

[edgy crater]

dats just reek mono pysical lol

[rare zodiac]

Just make a risk that -100% natural sp regen and 70% of team work like ass

[edgy elk]

LR Yvonne duo clear

Next, ban strikers too

[dusk isle]

Great idea, i can place my lv5 yvonne in place of akekuri

[distant python]

I want to play LR but I have no sigs

[distant python]

Physical wins again I think

[dusk isle]

Ban striker = only homunculus can play

[glass birch]

I mean they can mitigate it with Endmin

[edgy elk]

Now we know why endmin is classified as a guard

[dusk isle]

Wait endmin guard

[glass birch]

Rossi too

[edgy crater]

mono pysical can use defender/striker/caster/supporter ban

[edgy elk]

guard ban:

[edgy crater]

[edgy elk]

Pog Dapan only survivors

[distant python]

Catcher

[edgy crater]

w8 aint dapan a guard?

[edgy elk]

Real

[edgy elk]

Striker

[distant python]

Ember is also basically a physical unit tbh

[glass birch]

Dapan is a striker thanks to crush

[dusk isle]

Guard banned phys carried by ember and catcher

[glass birch]

Endmin is a guard thanks to team related buffs

[edgy crater]

[distant python]

Forbidden DPS pog angle

[edgy elk]

Ithrene. No cryo next patch. I p1 artzy or brigand (or both)?

[distant python]

1k will go brrrr

Double slab

[edgy crater]

NR pog

[dusk isle]

Neither

[edgy crater]

[dusk isle]

Just save gng

[icy remnant]

Time to ban Strikers

[dusk isle]

Do you rlly need them

[icy remnant]

Which class is the most painful to ban

[edgy elk]

artzy p0 has inferiority complex against p5 wedges

[edgy elk]

Defender. Trust

[dusk isle]

Also, cc gonna have nature ban for sure

[edgy crater]

guard

[distant python]

Vanguard I think

[icy remnant]

Enemies have 80% arts resistance
Ban guards

[dusk isle]

Arts team = striker
Phys = guard

[edgy elk]

“Is there endgame content that needs u to build more than one team?”

now we know

[distant python]

Excellent

[icy remnant]

Oh yea

[distant python]

My 4 teams will actually be useful

[fresh trench]

i meant 2 team with 2 members?

[icy remnant]

Remember when I said corrosion will be insane with high res enemies

I hope they add high res enemies

[edgy crater]

no rossie for u

[icy remnant]

[leaden mantle]

Dps ember a meme?

[edgy crater]

there will be def+++, hp+++, res+++

[icy remnant]

With 80 res, 10% res shred is a 50% increase in damage

[dusk isle]

80% resistance = corromax angle

[edgy elk]

That event just everyday life for ppl who play solo clear

[distant python]

What role is estella

[dusk isle]

Guard

[edgy crater]

chen lr player be like

[final plume]

is Zhuang Fangyi Main DPS AoE similar to Laevatain?

[thorn shore]

people trimmed with it, play whatever u want

[rare zodiac]

But can they cc with it

[icy remnant]

What’s the easiest way to maintain high corrosion stacks

[edgy elk]

tangtang

And Gil

[icy remnant]

That’s just a one off per Ult ain’t it

[dusk isle]

Depending on what cc uses to make it difficult, she might just stall it

[edgy crater]

ban defender

[icy remnant]

And it wears off too fast

[rare zodiac]

Just natural reaction i guess, do a lv4 and keep feed it lv1 corro to keep it alive

[edgy elk]

Get it to corr4 once, then just reset it over and over

[icy remnant]

Gil Ult already expires by the time Corrosion kicks in

Since it needs build up time

[edgy elk]

Use tt gil bs to refresh

[distant python]

Is there flourite potential

[edgy elk]

corro1 can keep corro4 going

[edgy crater]

btw, we can get debuff duration got halved

[fresh trench]

i wonder how far i can get through contingency contract also i wish there is new gear for ardelia solo

[edgy elk]

God…

[final plume]

Dang it now I will have two AoE Hypercarry DPS
do we know who will be better at single target bosses?

[icy remnant]

Ardelia basic attack spam

[rare zodiac]

No info until stat out

[icy remnant]

To maintain Corro

[edgy crater]

or like immune to cc/debuff

[edgy elk]

Her cd fast enuf?
Arde cs corro only 11s

[formal copper]

Different elements surely this will make a difference in cc

[distant python]

They already have immune to stagger so

[fresh trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002010565276868734/1492545004789301268/Gif2-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[icy remnant]

You’ll need other sources but it helps a lot

[daring dove]

Was there ever Flourite potential.

[icy remnant]

How easy does Flourite maintain corrosion

[edgy elk]

DPS / arde / gil / inflictor

[edgy crater]

there is, as doujin material

[edgy elk]

100SP for a nature stack I guess.

[icy remnant]

That’s just Gilberta ain’t it

[fresh trench]

200... you need base infliction

[rare zodiac]

200sp every 15s to maintain corro sound like a pain in the ass

[icy remnant]

Every 30s if you have Ardelia

Or less?

[edgy elk]

Yup, 100 for nature and whatever for the other stack

[dusk isle]

Arde corro last shorter

[edgy elk]

Might help bridge the SP downtime tho

[rare zodiac]

More like 20s, unless fuking frame perfect

[fresh trench]

her base corrosion is 7,11 on p5 her debuff is 30 seconds

[edgy elk]

Cus keeping artificial corro is expensive

[dusk isle]

Yea, i was just saying it isnt going to be 30s

[fresh trench]

17-18 17 if you maxed it

her p5 is 15 seconds on max

i rememberized this into my core for no reason

[icy remnant]

Don’t be surprised if people try going frame perfect for high risk runs

That’s like

The norm

[rare zodiac]

11s

[fresh trench]

cool down i meant

aaaaa

[rare zodiac]

We are talking about keeping corro alive bro

[fresh trench]

ah

4 seconds downtime

[icy remnant]

You just use Ardelia in between

As a slot in to save sp while maintaining corro

[edgy elk]

Wait so in this hypothetical team…
Who deals damage

[rare zodiac]

Arde dps

[edgy elk]

arde / nature inflictor / flex /flex

[fresh trench]

ardelia

[icy remnant]

TangTang hyper carry

Unironically

[edgy elk]

honestly valid

[rare zodiac]

1 diff inflictor to corro

So 1 flex only

[icy remnant]

TangTang Perlica Gilberta Ardelia

That’s the 80% res team comp

[edgy elk]

So just the normal tt team with Xai out and arde in

[fresh trench]

snowshine? (she use 60 sp)

she return 30 and 10 if hit parry

[edgy elk]

Real

If they make cc enemies super aggressive

[icy remnant]

Well that’s only if they go crazy and give us 80% res
With Fangyi being on the banner maybe we see like 80% Phys res

[edgy elk]

hope they will
Or else snore

[glass birch]

[fresh trench]

(I love my snowshine she can parry 5 times when have 300 sp 😭 )

[icy remnant]

They can just add the dodge no iframe tag worth a lot

Then people with snowshine can get risk 18 very easily

[glass birch]

Shoeshine

[icy remnant]

Risk 18 basically means the minimum to get maximum rewards

Anything beyond is for fun

Dammit I blame Apple

[daring dove]

I have a question btw, when Fangyi was fighting the boss the entire team was able to jump really high to avoid certain damage waves.

Is that an ability she enables all the time or just for specific fights?

Would be really cool if it was an exploration ability but I douibt it is.

As the game doesn't seem to be designed in a way where an ability to jump high could be balanaced.

[rare zodiac]

imagine 1 talent slot to jump higher

[thorn shore]

unless they patched it there was an infinite jump attack exploit

[unique valley]

so from what I got from the livestream Fangyi's basically Avywenna Pro Max Plus

[daring rose]

Hi ! Can i get some raw honest opinions on Rossi meta wise ? I have more than enough pulls to get her with her weapon (+ Zhuang next patch). I already have Laev that shares some teammates with her so i'm not sure if i should get her (again, talking strictly about meta)

[drifting quest]

meta isnt real, honestly

its all super dependent on your assumptions

[dry kindle]

please dont be a fraud cc

[daring dove]

If you have characters like Tangtang & Giberta already I'd say she's a good pickup. If you don't have either / both of these two her value decreases especially if you don't have Gilberta.

[daring rose]

I have both. I didn't see anyone playing her with Tangtang tho ?

[drifting quest]

there's wheelchair comps for rossi

[daring dove]

I'd argue that's the best team rn. Keep in mind I'm a whale so your damage would be lower. But it's a really easy to play fun team. https://streamable.com/evcgku

[drifting quest]

rossi's best team is in fact investment and content dependant

'best'

a word i am quickly coming to hate

[daring rose]

Is she able to play more on the physical side ? I already have a Laev and LR+Tangtang team so i was hoping she would be good with a physical core

[small tinsel]

I HAVE A THEORY

[potent hornet]

no leeks in the chat

[drifting quest]

she is, yes

[daring dove]

I mean her PHY teams perform at a lower level, but keep in mind there's no content that requires multiple teams so you can mix & match your good characters across teams freely.

[drifting quest]

phys variants can outperform arts ones

[daring rose]

And at lower invest, isn't it better to play with a heat applier ?

[daring dove]

Heat doesn't mean all that much to Rossi to be honest. The buff she gets from combustion is quite minor. But that's a good thing because it means she isn't locked to heat teams at all.

She has about 30 different viable teams as a result.

[distant python]

you just need an infliction applier, the element doesnt matter

[drifting quest]

For phys variants heat appliers are generally preferred

To get to higher stack count

[daring rose]

Alright, and last question i had, does she have any real value to be played on field or is she mostly a nuker ??

[drifting quest]

Depends on team

[daring dove]

She builds up stacks for her sig quicker as the controlled character but it's totally not required to get the most out of her.

[daring rose]

Nice ! You convinced me i'll pull her 😄

Thank you for your help !!

[daring dove]

No worries she's a top 3 character rn in my opinion so I don't think you'll be disappointed.

[daring rose]

• she cute

[daring dove]

Plus the next banner is 37 days long so even if you want Fangyi as well

https://giphy.com/gifs/hM9zK1qvsrwek

Chances are you can have both.

[daring rose]

I can do more than 250 wishes

I think i'll be fine haha

[drifting quest]

patch income looks good so im praying there's 100 pulls in the patch

or well 80 after monthly pass x2

[daring rose]

50 wishes in

[dry kindle]

Now pull sig

[leaden mantle]

Does that include getting both of their weapons as well?

[daring rose]

70 wishes

[icy remnant]

Man I’m just happy that CC is a thing

[drifting quest]

im hoping they do it well

its so easy for them to mess it up

but i have faith

[icy remnant]

Even if they don’t they will have future CCs

It being proven to be a thing is the main point

We will have actual endgame

[drifting quest]

og arknights is a super different game

[icy remnant]

That’s pretty much confirmed now

[drifting quest]

and the early cc in that game were pretty miserable too

[icy remnant]

They can mess up the first few and it won’t matter

[dry kindle]

Now we just need a18 is

[icy remnant]

For me

[dry kindle]

[daring dove]

Congratz, might be worth doing 1 more ten pull since that gives you a free 10 pull on the next banner?

[icy remnant]

All that matters to me is there’s more reason to play than 1 shot Rhodagn

And it’s gonna be 100%

No doubt about that

[daring rose]

Yup i did it too haha
Zhuang coming in these 10 pulls fr fr

[drifting quest]

im praying for fangyi in 10

120 x 3 is brutal

[dry kindle]

Sig

[icy remnant]

I never gave up faith that they were gonna push for CC

[drifting quest]

i sacked rossi sig in 1 go so im good for fangyi sig

[daring rose]

x3 ? You going for P2 ?

[icy remnant]

Bless

[dry kindle]

Fuck you

[drifting quest]

no i went to 120 for gilb, then tangtang and now rossi

im already 120x3

[daring rose]

ooch

[dry kindle]

Can you do 500 chests for me okty

[drifting quest]

buy my fangyi and i will

[icy remnant]

I want to get Gilberta but it’s pretty much a guaranteed 120

[dry kindle]

[cinder oxide]

25/75 lmao

Basically 5 times less likely than arsenal

[echo cove]

[icy remnant]

Honestly still a better position than OG Arknights limited banners rerun(never)

[drifting quest]

the Joint Op banner is bait

[echo cove]

Git gud moment

[short belfry]

what's rossi's best team? i checked iana's guide on pins and its still wip so i figured i'll just ask here

[drifting quest]

there's no 'best' team

it depends on assumptions

[echo cove]

Well if they let us choose at 120 pity, maybe it's not so much?

[river scroll]

Tangtang atm

[cinder oxide]

Best Rossi team changes depending on what resources u have access to

[echo cove]

Heard it'll have a dif gacha rule than the current banner

[icy remnant]

But yea 120 pulls to buy a Gilberta isn’t that bad honestly even if you ignore the other 3 ops

[short belfry]

oof i dont have tangtang. but i have gilberta w/sig, rossi w/sig

[echo cove]

If it's guaranteed that is

[icy remnant]

Well it better be lol

[echo cove]

There's not yet a confirmation on it so best to just pray

[daring dove]

Try the one I posted earlier it's super easy to play. Which means you'll get a lot from it without needing to learn a complex rotation. https://streamable.com/evcgku

[icy remnant]

If it’s random after 120 then it’s 100% bait

[river scroll]

then just do the endmin or dapan one

[echo cove]

Idk how it is in ogak

But it should be similar?

[drifting quest]

Hybrid Rossi, Phys Rossi, Shatter Rossi or Laev wheelchair if you own Laev
Pick your poison

[icy remnant]

In AK if you missed the limited op ur cooked forever
They will be off rate in other limited banners but like 0.05% chance or smth

And you’ll need to spark em for 300 pulls

Buy in the shop

[drifting quest]

1000 pulls over 5 limited banner and im still missing 4/5 of those limited units

[dry kindle]

Think it's higher if they're still weight up

Idr

[icy remnant]

I don’t know the exact numbers but they still might as well be non existent

[dry kindle]

I got skalter without weight up

So

[icy remnant]

It’s 5x the normal weight of an operator like any random operator

And there are hundreds

[normal tangle]

lowk your fault for getting rossi

[dry kindle]

Not even

[drifting quest]

ive gotten one and it was chongyue a year after i spent 200 to not get him

[dry kindle]

Only the latest 3

[drifting quest]

and then i didnt get shu that banner

[icy remnant]

[dry kindle]

The rest are normal

[drifting quest]

real and true

[dry kindle]

I should've pulled tangtang but gg

Surely offbanner on fangyi

Surely I fucking p5 wulf on fangyi banner

[icy remnant]

But yea now that we have proper reruns we now know that weapon reruns come without such gimmicks

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

we havent had a proper rerun yet

only weapon banner

[echo cove]

I don't regret 120 on tt at all kekw

[normal tangle]

does ak have proper reruns or is it a similar story

[icy remnant]

I doubt we will get a proper rerun of the conventional kind

[dry kindle]

Limiteds no

[icy remnant]

No, this banner is already better than AK limiteds

[normal tangle]

wayy too early to say

[icy remnant]

AK just doesn’t have reruns at all for limiteds

[drifting quest]

solo rate ups get a rerun with their event rerun
lim banner no
collab only if a second collab happens

[dry kindle]

But ak limited are basically actual limited

[drifting quest]

units who didnt have an event dont get a rerun

[icy remnant]

I missed Wisadel btw

[normal tangle]

[icy remnant]

Cus I didn’t play

[dry kindle]

And then you get the usual 2 rate up standard banners

[drifting quest]

i missed eyja2 shu wisadel yu

i pulled for all of them

[normal tangle]

is there at least like a pity selector

[short belfry]

how about rossi, akekuri, perlica, gilberta? i think the disadvantage is difficult rotation? i've read stuff and it says phys rossi is like easier rotation but lil bit behind on dmg? that true?

[daring dove]

I hope that limited character sigs will eventually release on the whale token store. Obviously not when the character first releases but on their official re-run would be nice.

[icy remnant]

I missed the last 4 years of operators except Texas Alter

[dry kindle]

And the orienteering and joint op banners

[icy remnant]

300 pulls on the limited banner

To spark it

[drifting quest]

works, forgot to include arts rossi

[thorn shore]

how to time travel 5d and 5h into the future to get 1.2 quicker pls

[echo cove]

Sleep

[normal tangle]

do you have any obligations this week

[thorn shore]

enter hibernation

[thorn shore]

IRL grind for oroberyl(a j*b)

[icy remnant]

But yea one thing is if the 120 spark lets you choose 1 of the units, it’s still a good rerun for someone that needs the units desperately

You can just pretend you lost the 50/50

[normal tangle]

unfort

could’ve gone into coma

[icy remnant]

120 pulls for an operator is the norm to me anyways

[thorn shore]

self induced coma goes crazy

[normal tangle]

assuming there’s a spark at all

[icy remnant]

Yep

[normal tangle]

we have no details whatsoever

[icy remnant]

If there’s no spark then rip

[drifting quest]

you're still backpulling a unit who might not have good future performance, at best

[short belfry]

like, i just want a rossi team that has simpler rotation but good dmg w/ no tangtang, then learn the rotation, so i can finally play rossi

[icy remnant]

That’s every rerun

[pure spoke]

1.2 when

[drifting quest]

that it is

if it was a gilb solo rerun id say the same thing

[thorn shore]

watch them never release an arts dps with any sort of burst damage until 2.0

[drifting quest]

it could happen

[icy remnant]

We don’t even know what’s after 1.3/1.4

It can easily skip 1.4>2.0

That’s not very hard

We haven’t even got a physical unit yet

[potent hornet]

Endmin

[dry kindle]

Rossi:

[thorn shore]

rossi is technically phys

[dry kindle]

[thorn shore]

she just has 1 arts ability that just so happens to be the best thing about her by far

[drifting quest]

2.0 should be around the 1 year anni

iirc

they said as much

so we might get like

1.9 lmao

[normal tangle]

it’s hard to not get value out of grouping at minimum

[rugged vale]

theres no way we get 9 patches of wuling

[daring dove]

Seems about right if the average patch length is about 40 days.

[drifting quest]

cmiiw but im pretty sure they said the first year would be focused on wuling

we'll naturally probably get some area expansion for v4 during that time too

[normal tangle]

they said no big regions outside x.0 updates iirc

[dry kindle]

Yeah

[normal tangle]

so we just v4/wulinging

[dry kindle]

Interview iirc

[drifting quest]

sounds right

[smoky quarry]

Nothing interesting happened today

[drifting quest]

ragebait or worst server to post that in

[smoky quarry]

Why? Something happened today?

[drifting quest]

1.2 patch devlog

[smoky quarry]

General consensus?

[drifting quest]

really quite good

[thorn shore]

sleeper devlog nothing happened

[smoky quarry]

hmmm

[thorn shore]

main patch devlog, i snooze

[smoky quarry]

.leak

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1406921241389961247/artworks-OcZ9DuwfBuSjNSy0-THYYuQ-t500x500.png

[smoky quarry]

Perlica fans can't stop winning

[dry kindle]

How much we betting on p5 perlica being a real lv2 elec

[drifting quest]

perlica p4 is l2 elec

[smoky quarry]

Perlica six-star alter when?

[dry kindle]

For fangyi

Would be kinda funny if it's a lv1 with dumb numbers

[thorn shore]

would make rotation with ardelia good if it is level two

fs once combo skills ardelia bs then fs again and do fangyi magic

[dry kindle]

Would make me die from cringe because I'm p1

[lyric latch]

is there a setting for showing the level of reaction on the icon or is this a new thing?

[dry kindle]

New thing

[potent hornet]

nice

[sterile moat]

@edgy elk p4 tt allows you to run 0 uge gear at least

you can go try if its viable on p0

[noble tapir]

Alright just got back from work and haven't watched the new patch video/livestream/thing, how much info did we get about Zhuang Fangyi?

[sterile moat]

The usual

Just what the skill does

No numbers or passives

[worn forge]

++

[signal sundial]

is it my birthday!?

1000% hp mobs lfg

[formal copper]

It's your birthday but in like 2 months

1.3

[potent hornet]

finally got around to watching the video

[daring dove]

Will allow us to test extended rotations without doing dumb stuff like using level 1 weapons at least.

[potent hornet]

you ready to pay for another monthly pass

[signal sundial]

assuming you dont get one shot

[daring dove]

The other pass is free

[drifting quest]

no need to pay for any

[potent hornet]

the pristine pass?

[drifting quest]

the new version is replacing the current one so if you are paying for the current you are just paying for the new one

[daring dove]

Yep

[drifting quest]

and then there's an extra free one that runs alongside the paid one

[signal sundial]

so i hear the story got spoiled in the livestream

so i shant watch it

[drifting quest]

only as much as any of the version trailers

it has out of order and out of context cutscene snippets yes

[potent hornet]

thats what i get for looking away for 2 seconds while watching and having to read subtitles

[signal sundial]

i think someone said something about a boss fight?

[drifting quest]

the new boss is spoiled yes

[signal sundial]

or was it the same scene from the 1.1 preview of 1.2

[drifting quest]

same way ruan yi's got spoiled last time iirc

[daring dove]

Basically if you buy the $4.99 monthly pass you'll get 400 banner currency & 2 sanity boosters a day. If you don't you still get half of this. Devs are just being cool dudes to the F2P's this time.

[signal sundial]

ah so actual in game scene

i'll avoid it then

[drifting quest]

yes it shows off the boss mechanics

enemy attacks and the like

[potent hornet]

neat

[noble tapir]

Zhuang Fangyi looks very laev like to me

Guess I should build perlica lol

[signal sundial]

i cant wait for fangyi to have a sword counter and avywenna to still not have a spear counter

[daring dove]

Yeah, to be fair even if they had of made it a second tier monthly pass for an extra $4.99 it'd still been a good deal. The fact they made it free is even better.

[noble tapir]

Oh it's a bonus monthly pass, not just the monthly pass for free. Hell yeah

[potent hornet]

so if you buy the one as well we can actually get 1 pull a day for a month

[noble tapir]

Yep

[potent hornet]

feels like they really want to make sure everyone get Fangyi

[thorn shore]

Fangyi banner gonna go crazy

I’m hyped for all the characters I’ve seen so far aside from the male, yuck

[normal tangle]

the male looks way too similar to ardashir lol

i thought it was actually him

[drifting quest]

the silhouette from way back could still be him

the halo esque head ornament is what throws doubt into the mix

[daring dove]

Yeah hopefully there will be a minimum of 100 pulls in 1.2. Once tyou factor in events & new areas as well.

A real improvement for pull economy in the game.

[drifting quest]

i need 80 to get fangyi

guaranteed at least

a 4th 120 pull req would kill me though

[daring dove]

I mean I think the game is slowly transitioning into what could be described as a "generous" gacha anyway. I do legitmately think small spenders will have a decent chance to pull every character going forward.

Provided you do BP + monthly pass.

1 pull every day for just monthly patch purchasers is pretty good going. When you include events an new area chests average will end up being at least 2 pulls daily.

If you can do more than a 10 pull every week that's pretty good going.

[drifting quest]

10/week is a 50 pull patch

below even soft pity

[daring dove]

2 pulls a day would be 14 a week.

[drifting quest]

14/week is a 70 pull patch which is also somewhat below par

[daring dove]

Like I said that'll be bare minimum anyway.

We get 5 free pulls per banner too so minimum would be 80, you also get 5 extra per banner from the currency exchange.

So in reality 90 unless you're reckless with currency.

90-100 per patch is where I'm expecting thing to land going forward.

[drifting quest]

which would be a decent point

[thorn shore]

best rossi food is ginseng meat stew right?

[drifting quest]

jakubs can win out as always but ginseng is nice for consistency purposes

esp if you off piece a kit

[thorn shore]

ty

[thorn shore]

jakubs beats out kunst even if you like stanza on perlica? or any form of +atk% really

[drifting quest]

you'd have to have like barely any dam%

[thorn shore]

idk how much dmg% is in hyper arts rossi team

but ik rossi gets like 37% atk

from m1 security set and stanza

then another 25% from sig too

does all dmg dealt get put in the same bucket even if its like arts dmg dealt and heat dmg dealt and general dmg dealt

[drifting quest]

yes

[gusty saffron]

Anyone who at least understand Fangyi kit from the broadcast...how does she manage to get 9 sunderblades on field? I heard it can be 9 sunderblades on field. Her ult gives extra 3 sunderblades, but her battle skill, which create sunderblades (up to 3), also consume the sunderblades.

Or does the sunderblades not get consumed? Instead they will be on field until their duration finished?

[drifting quest]

skill doesnt consume them as far as we know

[daring dove]

Come on guys we don't even know her kit properly yet cut the click-bait.

[drifting quest]

its 1/2/3 at 0/1/2+ electrification

first skill during ult is always 3

[thorn shore]

dont even know her 2 traits or numbers man

[drifting quest]

naturally

this is all as far as we know

[thorn shore]

shes pretty much guaranteed to be INSANE for casual daily content grind

but i bet rossi still gonna be the bossing maniac that she is

[drifting quest]

impossible to tell till we see fangyi numbers

[daring dove]

For me my biggest concern rn is what looked like terribly slow ult gain.

[thorn shore]

hold on let me go rewatch the boss fight

[daring dove]

I hope her potentials / gear can fix that. Because I don't care if she hits like an absolute truck if she has 40 seconds of downtime for 20 seconds of uptime.

[thorn shore]

her cs + bs combined seemed to be about a third of the ult gauge\

if we can fit a bit of ult gain into her gear i bet she can do a 2 rotation then ult thing same as laev, which would be nice with the immediate 3 sword bs at start of ult

[amber vapor]

They used Alesh's ult in the preview for SP gain but I doubt he's the bis for SP gain on a Fangyi team

[drifting quest]

he might be

[daring dove]

I'm praying her P5 is something so simple but also so effective - She can gain ult energy during her ultimate.

[thorn shore]

arclight is looking like a possibility with how much fangyi revolves around applying and consuming electrification

[drifting quest]

im not an arclight believer

[thorn shore]

im not really either unless she can start consuming electrification while we already have 9 swords up i mean

if electrification consumption on fangyi only summons swords

but idk

i think somene earlier told me consuming also makes the attack stronger

[amber vapor]

Technically we do because they showcased it but didn't show the raw numbers

[drifting quest]

cool whats her talents

uge req?

[daring dove]

That's like saying I know how that sports car handles because I seen it in a showroom.

[thorn shore]

the 5 days between me and 1.2 feel longer than the entirety of 1.1 up to this point

[drifting quest]

we can guess one of fangyi's talents is basically just gen energy when a sword hits an enemy

which is going to make

uge reqs

miserable lmao

could be baked into her skill i guess

[thorn shore]

i thought someone earlier mentioned how laev preview didnt show the part abt her skills making ult energy

yeah

[amber vapor]

Fangyi kit

Combo skill: On final strike or Finisher on an enemy with electric stacks, convert them to electrification while attacking with a xiranblitz array.

Burst skill: Consuming electrification II or higher summons 3 blades (1 blade if no electrification and 2 when consuming electrification I). Up to 9 blades can exist on the field at a time.

Ult: enhanced BAs, combo becomes an AoE and it's cool down is 4x faster, replenishes/summons 9 blades.

That's what I was able to gather

It seems like the blades are a buff and don't actually get consumed for an attack like with Avy

[drifting quest]

yeah its not nearly enough to comment on anything

other than superficial glances

obvious pairings are obvious

[thorn shore]

and holy mother of aoe damage pls come home fangyi

[drifting quest]

anything other than you probably always run perlica is

up in the air

[amber vapor]

I would assume the blades enhance electrification DMG and increase break accumulation as well

My hypothesis is that an ideal team will quickly provide 2 stacks of electric 3 times so that you have 9 blades on the field and then you just go ham in ult form

[swift onyx]

3pc set effect:
+10% atk
Whenever the wielder consumes an arts infliction they gain same number of buff stacks, as was the amount of infliction consumed. Each stack increases arts dmg by 15% for 25s, stacking up to 3 times.
Each stack has independant duration.

Guess zhuang is using the new xiraflow set

[drifting quest]

is that official dropped now

[swift onyx]

Well ye

[daring dove]

Keep in mind a lot of early Rossi assumptions where she needed a pyro infliction unit to function. When we actually got her none of that was true. Point is we know next to nothing right now. Even when Rossi released people where still spouting BS about her needing pyro characters for a few days.

[drifting quest]

do you have a link to where it is

[swift onyx]

No, theres no link
I just translated what they showed in the dev log

[urban plaza]

which unit isnt INSANE for casual content?
the content is so watered down a mild breeze can clear it

[swift onyx]

They showed it for like 2 seconds

[thorn shore]

yeah but aoe out the ass

[drifting quest]

where in the dev log was it

[thorn shore]

so now instead of 10 seconds its 2

[swift onyx]

Gear crafting qol part

[thorn shore]

granted any team with tangtang can also just spam tangtang bs and kill everything cus aoe

[drifting quest]

ah, nice catch

[amber vapor]

I think she is just the electric version of Laev in that she can't apply arts stacks herself

Unless in ult form

[drifting quest]

bskill dam bonus on the kit

[swift onyx]

So zhuang is Will main, Int secondary
Bs dmg bonus too

[amber vapor]

Where the empowered combo skill aoe applies electrification to all enemies hit

[swift onyx]

Yep, definetly her set

[amber vapor]

Imma spend every last oro and arsenal ticket I have on Fangyi and then max everything out stats wise (I don't care about dupes)

[amber vapor]

Can you find her perfect essence rq too so I can prefarm /lh

[swift onyx]

..?
Will atk suppresion

[drifting quest]

we have essences

they werent even hidden

will atk supp for sig
will elec efficacy for bp

[amber vapor]

I skimmed don't watch live. Too lazy to check myself

[sick nexus]

About Fangyi I hear she works well with Alesh

And If that is true Alesh finally has a use

[thorn shore]

is it worth it to grab glorious memory for chen or no

alesh had a use before tangtang told him to fuck off

[swift onyx]

[swift onyx]

Her best weapon unless u habe something better so

[thorn shore]

the doc just listed out a couple, had sundering above glorious in the list too

idk if that meant sumn or not

[swift onyx]

Glorious beats p5 sundering at p3

[drifting quest]

could do yes

[drifting quest]

gear dependent, rot dependent

for the most part gm is better but it doesnt massively pull ahead until you're fielding her on yinglung gear

[daring dove]

Dev team builds are always wonky af, don't pay too much attention. Remember Dev showcase of Rossi & Wulfguard has everyone convinced you needed to run that bum for nearly a month.

[drifting quest]

i mean wulf is still optimal in some comps / rots / cases

but yes we know nothing until we have numbers

[thorn shore]

rossi team kinda ended up in a weird spot, at least the hyper arts one did

fuck synergy, show me the damage!

[drifting berry]

What were the stats for Fangyi Signature and BP weapon?

[thorn shore]

^

[drifting berry]

🔥

that was fast

[thorn shore]

i got rossi and tangtang essence to 663 still this is such a pain

i havent been logging on much

[amber vapor]

Dev team with Rossi and Wulfgard was prolly just for the "lore accurate" brownie points

[thorn shore]

they like the lore brownie points and avoid other 6 stars

i guess to not push a narrative of you need x previous limited in order for this limited to function

[drifting quest]

i mean thats never been true

[thorn shore]

i was so surprised when rossi in her side quest had gil in team

i was like okay this functions nicely

then i went over to the demo

and was like wtf

[gusty saffron]

which site you got this, and what is the preengraved?

[drifting berry]

I don't think understand the question? If anything I farmed it on the energy alluvion on the hub

And I just went directly Will - Atk%

I don't really need to farm any other weapon so yeah

[gusty saffron]

yea site I mean the hub site...and what stats you choose?

[gusty saffron]

what are the other stats? it is actually important

[drifting quest]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/#optimizer

and check fluorescent roc

[drifting berry]

Nah, I just went Will, main and Agi. But I don't really care about efficiency because I already got essences for all my weapons

[drifting quest]

same 3 lines for fangyi sig

[drifting berry]

yeah that webside

[gusty saffron]

wrong trio stats often makes the farming get too long cause it tends to drop more for the other stats than the one we want

[thorn shore]

tin foil hat essence farming\

[gusty saffron]

ok thankss...and atk%

[drifting berry]

Yeah, asked the wrong person, at this point I don't care about optimizing.

But yeah use that webside so you can farm multiple weapons at the same time

[unique valley]

so I assume Fangyi's gonna be the first of whatever Endfield's equivalent to Void Hunters/Sentinel Resonators is

[drifting quest]

no way to tell if endfield will do anything like that

and if they do whether fangyi is part of that

[thorn shore]

is there even anything special about them in other games

aside from lore importance

[leaden mantle]

Rossi isn’t like your typical dps right? Like she has long lasting staying power in team building right? In terms of this games future.

[drifting quest]

impossible to say

[drifting quest]

typically notably better than other units

thats about it

[thorn shore]

she might be a vuln applier in another team capable of applying arts inflics + vuln

and she has +heat/phys dmg taken

but thats about all i see in terms of staying power

[drifting quest]

miyabi made the entire game structure revolve around her to the point where hoyo made basically every new piece of content specifically hard to use her on and then the one time they didnt do it like 2 years later she returned as the best unit for that

similar stuff happens in other gacha

acheron was a ways better than other units

nahida, furina, mavuika all meta defining

you get the idea

[thorn shore]

i might be crazy but i dont see fangyi as being a crazy meta defining character unless its like rossi again where they pull out the numbers

lo and behold

ridiculously high for no reason

[drifting quest]

i mean meta doesnt really exist in endfield in the same way

assumptions define what is most effective

there's nothing generic / no baseline exists

[wispy shuttle]

Dps is dps. If a team comes along that deals more damage without her in relevant scenarios, then rossi gets replaced. But we don't know if and when that will happen or what those scenarios are, esp with new content being introduced.

[gusty saffron]

One thing for sure, they intend and in fact we already know, Fangyi banner is 35 days, special enough haha

[thorn shore]

one good thing abt rossi is that shes effective without being controlled

u can see her being put in laev's team a bit

might have a future team where shes being used as a sub dps purely bc she does so much dmg

[drifting quest]

hypergryph appears* to want to keep the game more casual than anything

so expecting units to remain usable for a long time if not forever isnt unrealistic

[thorn shore]

hopefully this cc whatever its called adds a endgame

[unique valley]

eeeh, unless you're joking ZZZ's not THAT old, it's literally about to enter 2nd Anniversary in 3.0, also I might add that they did everything under the sun to keep, and I mean quite possibly **THE **biggest Anti-Shill campaign in Gacha history, Miyabi from running with the game and was STILL NOT enought, and now with Nangong Yu she's dominating even more

[thorn shore]

old arknights players be freaking out about it

[drifting quest]

hyperbolic comment

CC would be hard endgame if done right

[thorn shore]

from what ive heard its like a heat mechanic

add as much challenge as you want

[drifting quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07tS5VMQPys&t=0s

[thorn shore]

its gotta be hard surely

[drifting quest]

different game genre but would hopefully somewhat highlight the height it could be

[thorn shore]

yeah i got no clue whats going on in that game but its a good sign its impressive enough for someone to want to post it on youtube

[drifting quest]

its not the most impressive cc clear of all time but it's a pretty heavy bar

specific unit requirement, specific sequencing, etc

[thorn shore]

yeah its nice to have a reason to build multiple teams although its counter-intuitive to the thus far very casual setting

cause it takes so much to get multiple teams going

[drifting quest]

if its anything like base AK then

max rewards will be achievable with a variety of teams but require particular planning into team/rot/risks

max risk will probably require vertical investment into the right team and potentials

[thorn shore]

so max rewards is equivalent to the amount of planning id need into the monument mode thing

[drifting quest]

more

[thorn shore]

Nice

[drifting quest]

you probably can viberot it CC too but it would be harder to do so

[drifting berry]

Does anyone actually use this, or not necesary?

[undone leaf]

using it for farm oru

anyway

[drifting quest]

used to get the drops rewards, some have oroberyl

[undone leaf]

i still confused for physical team gear

[drifting quest]

then farmed a bunch of stuff for food crafting like citromes or ginseng

[undone leaf]

endmin, chen, pogra, lifeng

should i use guide?

[outer ermine]

love how they timed gil ard rerun for cc

[undone leaf]

the docs

[drifting quest]

iana's guide is up to date still for now

[undone leaf]

okay

[drifting berry]

imagine not having gilberta on 2026

[undone leaf]

me

[leaden mantle]

God I hope she gets powercrept

[honest hill]

u didn't pull her?

[drifting berry]

2 hrs of exploration and I got 2k Oro so far

[bronze plume]

I dont wonder about ef cc cuz in ak it doesnt give any pull currency

Wonder if itll be thr same have its own shop woth its own currency

[drifting berry]

The thing is that AK existed before genshin, so because there wasn't a standard for endgame content, CC never gave any premium currency .

Now that genshin is a thing most likely will influence endfield into giving oro from the rewards, most likely at the lower difficulties. And medals and stuff for risk 18 and above

At least that would be the case for a regular 3d gacha, but endfield seems to not follow genshin tendencies as much so who knows.

[bronze plume]

Man fuck genshin tho

Tbf id like it to give pulls cuz its still ahh rn but only the bottom half of difficulties at most

[drifting berry]

If genshin wasn't as greedy as it it, all the other gachas would be on a much better spot.

I would like it to be like, R18 for max rewards. Literally force you to fight for it.

If oro was from R6 and below to say something

it would be kinda lame

[normal tangle]

there's no "grouping" tag or anything in the game, right?

like wuwa has traction

[vapid flame]

for ops? gilberta doesn't have one so guess not

[drifting berry]

Nah, a skill might say "pulls in nearby enemies", but there isn't a tag in specific for such characters

So far I think Gilberta BS and Yvonne Combo skill are the only ones that can pull

I think Gilberta Combo also pulls but is a lot less stronger than her bs

[normal tangle]

interesting

might be a gilberta exclusive mechanic for all we know

or the more likely answer is they're just bad at categorizing

endmin guard real

[gritty olive]

https://youtu.be/utO8anZ8MPc expect cc to be like this

[normal tangle]

why compare to gachas

just imagine hades endgame and that's cc

literally picture perfect comparison, don't make them watch genshin

[gritty olive]

isnt hades the roguelike game

[normal tangle]

yeah

[leaden mantle]

nope

[gritty olive]

incomparable

[honest hill]

that's why, u regret not pulling her because she's very important in a lot of teams

[gritty olive]

this is the closest we have to CC thats 3d based like endfield

[normal tangle]

they are literally the exact same

[gritty olive]

i get what you mean but im comparing across the gacha space

and thats the most similar i can think of

[bronze plume]

monika sum up yo thoughts on the 1.2 livestream news in 1 word

[gritty olive]

or "Kylin"

[bronze plume]

zamn got it

i just want to see 5 stars man

[gritty olive]

i have the only kylin in arknights at m15 currently

expect the same to zhuang

[normal tangle]

li zhiyan new 5 star

[gritty olive]

leizi was love in first sight

[bronze plume]

im just realizing now but the aic they showed in the livestream

looks so bad

people are saying tho that it looks like the aic has heavy xiranite now which make take even more sky forges

which is why its going up to 8

but holy is it alot of space for just the sky forges now

[normal tangle]

that's the first thing i said lol

6 minutes into the stream

it looks like a jumble of 5 million pipes

i'm just gonna blueprint this one honestly

[normal tangle]

tbf that's what the outposts are for

[drifting quest]

wiki editors in shambles seeing that fangyi is a kylin

[vapid flame]

they said up to 12 forges "later" tho unclear if that meant later patch or later in same patch

[gritty olive]

PLEASE

SAY THAT MIFU IS ALSO A KYLIN

[drifting quest]

no

[bronze plume]

doubt it would be same patch

[drifting quest]

sarkaz

[gritty olive]

KYLIN

[drifting quest]

lmao

the one that looks like a lung is a kylin

the one that looks like a kylin(sort of) is a sarkaz

[bronze plume]

why is birb lady not in the 3 coming soon op thing bruh

why is it 3

i stg if 1.3 is 3 ops

[warped sorrel]

maybe she will be dead in 1.2 story

[bronze plume]

bro dead rip

[warped sorrel]

With evil lady

[bronze plume]

they have been known to kill of people we barely know so

[drifting quest]

she has char data

she is going to be playable

she just potentially got pushed back

same as the unknown male

[gritty olive]

did she show her tail

like ever

[drifting quest]

i think so(?)

[normal tangle]

how do you know what they look like in general

don't we only have like 1 example

[gritty olive]

base arkights

[warped sorrel]

[gritty olive]

this is a kylin

is the wuality bad