theorycrafting

[edgy elk]

wait lemme think rq
we're doing dmg per ss so no rot length concerns

gul how long is breach 4?

[terse raptor]

30 secs at 4 stacks

[edgy elk]

slay

[terse raptor]

no way ur gonna stack 4 solid

[unborn panther]

30 seconds

[edgy elk]

depends on how fast SP regens

[unborn panther]

Ult spam Pog :)

[ocean turret]

If we gonna 4 stack estella cryo, theres no susc

[edgy elk]

im thinking breach first. then wait for SP regen, 3 stack estella, alesh ult. but then you'd need another 75SP for alesh bs (since alesh ult is 25)

wait wait wait what if u fishfish for rare fin? that's another 25SP

so 50 SP needed

catastrophe
-# kidding

[unborn panther]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[ocean turret]

Sp cooked

[terse raptor]

[ocean turret]

Well i can just stack estella cryo before breach

Atleast 1 or 2

How long does the duration of the infliction?

[edgy elk]

wait gul, does pog's 5th harassment give 10SP + 40SP from decisive assault? or just 40SP

[terse raptor]

lemme check

[edgy elk]

miko we might be able to make it work

[ocean turret]

F it ill use fluorite estella

[edgy elk]

nahnah man
estella / alesh / pan / pog

estella 15% suscep
alesh solid4
pog breach
pan crush
it'll be daijoubu

[ocean turret]

Itll be higher than any crush dmg so far

[edgy elk]

then we can get #4 to do it with p5 exemplar

[gritty briar]

what's the highest crush anyone has ever dealt?

[edgy elk]

#2 did 1.7M iirc

[swift onyx]

My da pan hitting 732k crit crush :ya:

[terse raptor]

from what i've seen the fifth doesnt trigger +10sp

[edgy elk]

oh. wilt
nvm it's gg

[ocean turret]

Ill make it work, trust

[terse raptor]

[edgy elk]

not enough SP
also idk estella's animation time. might cap us

[ocean turret]

Lets just say its f2p shatter dapan

Remove pog

[edgy elk]

nawh

pog aint the issue. breach is 30 seconds

[ocean turret]

Fu we need pog

[edgy elk]

if u settle for solid3 it'd work (easily)

[terse raptor]

basic attack animation?

[ocean turret]

Estella susc only stays up for 7 secs

[edgy elk]

battleskill

[gritty briar]

estella bskill takes like a second

[terse raptor]

its pretty quick

[edgy elk]

basically u have a 7 second window to get solid4 and do pan crush after estella does lift

[terse raptor]

7 second to solid4???

[ocean turret]

Her combo will do the shatter to get susc

[edgy elk]

3 cryo stacks from estella (3 bs in a row), 1 from alesh ult, solid from alesh bs.
that's why i need 100SP return for alesh bs

[gritty briar]

estella also has 15 sp return btw

[edgy elk]

you get 25 SP from alesh cs (can simultaneous with estella bs), 25 from alesh ult. 40 from pog

[terse raptor]

on her ult iirc

[edgy elk]

oH

[ocean turret]

You forgot dapan bs too

[edgy elk]

we're cooking then

[edgy elk]

i'd assume you'd do that before

cus 30 seconds very lenient

[gritty briar]

it's like on her next bskill after she's done a solidification

i think

[ocean turret]

[edgy elk]

still. enough.

[ocean turret]

Fair enough

[edgy elk]

wait "solidification"

[ocean turret]

Or just use ult

[terse raptor]

yeah after she shatter 1st time, next bs returns sp

[hasty grail]

9s?

[gritty briar]

if you're just trying to fit her bskills before her suscept from combo runs out, you could also just delay activating her combo for another couple seconds

[ocean turret]

Oh yeah i mean 9

[gritty briar]

you can just not press E right away

[edgy elk]

pause who said it was 7s

9s. definitely doable 💀

ok you're in the clear miko

[terse raptor]

first 2m crush?

[edgy elk]

won't be single number lol
add crush and shatter and maybe

[terse raptor]

o yeah its shatter

[gritty briar]

what's the highest phys shatter anyone has ever done?

feels like no one plays actual shatter

[ocean turret]

Estella bs, alesh bs, estella cs, estella ult, alesh cs, triple estella bs, alesh ult, dapan ult, alesh bs, dapan cs

[edgy elk]

wait for me. i'm typing smthing up

[ocean turret]

Can we do this shi?

[gritty briar]

are you gonna use repute pog since you'd already have another vanguard for thermite?

[ocean turret]

Nope, we assumed pog already given us breach

[gritty briar]

i mean are you gonna give pog repute?

[ocean turret]

[gritty briar]

just funny to see repute pog used somewhere

[terse raptor]

repute pog good for 2 vanguard comps

[ocean turret]

You can just use his sig

[gritty briar]

normally he'd be on thermite for buffing duties but you have 2 vanguards in this case

[ocean turret]

Oh okay

[edgy elk]

here's a dumb rot idea then

prep phase, out of order:

• breach 4 (30 secs)
• prep 2 vuln (pan ult)
• prep solidify
• consume 3/5 steel oaths
• nearly stagger him
• STALL for 300SP
  burst:

1. estella cs (suscep 9sec, 1 vuln)
2. estella ult (1 vuln, triggers 5th steel oath, +40sp)
3. alesh cs (+25SP. fishfish for this)
4. estella bs (-85SP cus SP return)
5. estella bs x2 (-200SP)
6. alesh ult (+25SP)
7. alesh bs (solid4)
8. pan crush

[ocean turret]

20 sec window for repute buff

[gritty briar]

how did you get 75 for estella bs?

[edgy elk]

return 15

oh that'd be 85

[ocean turret]

Hell no dont dapan ult early. Youll get 4 vuln at estella ult

[edgy elk]

that's the point

then u crush

[ocean turret]

You cant crush if you have to wait 3 estella bs

[edgy elk]

u don't have to press cs immediately dumbo

[ocean turret]

Youll lose dapan cs

[edgy elk]

3 estella bs is only, like, 3 seconds

cs doesn't go away that fast

[fathom quartz]

casher have 200 sp return

[ocean turret]

Does cryo stacking while having 4 vuln still keep dapan cs up?

Refresh i mean

Like rossi?

[gritty briar]

i'd think it only refresh the cs prompt if you get another vuln stack

[edgy elk]

yeah
no reason for it to negate a cs trigger. it's not even possible to negate cs trigger

[outer ermine]

😭

[gritty briar]

you could also just press estella combo a couple seconds later if for whatever reason you need to stall for her b skills

[ocean turret]

Where did you dig up my pic?

Pic 1

[edgy elk]

hey hifu wanna build da pan for crush4 shatter4 damage per screenshot

Alesh / Estella / Pog / Pan
no rotation. just shatter his ahh

[ocean turret]

You have 9 secs to do all this shi after estella cs

[edgy elk]

see, so it's doable

plenty of time

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-12152943568085011868

[edgy elk]

u can do most of it simultaneously

the speed limit is estella's battleskills

[ocean turret]

THEORYCRAFTING IS REALLL🗣️🗣️🗣️

[edgy elk]

so as long as u do alesh's stuff in between it's daijoubu

[ocean turret]

I dont have max alesh

[edgy elk]

you can have max alesh

[ocean turret]

We need cryo mains to do this job and mmlvl up their dapan

[cinder oxide]

Sln I’m so close I can taste it

7% hp left

[edgy elk]

@cinder oxide we're doing a clown-style perly 1.7M but with crush4 shatter4 da pan

[outer ermine]

i see 3 man in that comp

[cinder oxide]

Hell yeah Da Pan

I knew he was optimal

[edgy elk]

damage per screenshot

[cinder oxide]

Wasting sp on crush is hell nah

[ocean turret]

he already made a guildline

[edgy elk]

900% crush 📈

[cinder oxide]

Yall need the Da Pan mains to help out?

[edgy elk]

yes

[cinder oxide]

I can get the guy with max pot exemplar

[edgy elk]

are u willing to build alesh and estella

[ocean turret]

Do you even have cryo team?

[edgy elk]

nah let miko do it

he's the original sinner

[cinder oxide]

I deadass think @unborn panther would for the numbers if he wanted too

Da Pan alr has 1.7mil in a monophys team

[gritty briar]

it's not like these two need much investment to do their job anyways

[cinder oxide]

Let’s see what he can do with shatter and breach and crush

[edgy elk]

alesh m1 ult and cs for SP hehe

otherwise rot won't work

[dusk isle]

aleshlover25

[ocean turret]

Bro we only need max alesh, m1 pog then estella in this team. If the rotation is correct even lvl 1 dapan can do the shatter crush

[cinder oxide]

What set is Da Pan on here

[ocean turret]

Aether ofc

[cinder oxide]

Yall making sure to max his set bonus and exemplar wp skill?

[edgy elk]

max alesh is wild
just cs m1 ult m1

[ocean turret]

I mean thats the same thing

[unborn panther]

huh

[ocean turret]

You know what

[edgy elk]

we got a prototype for crush4 shatter4 pan

[cinder oxide]

They’re trying a 4 shatter 4 crush Da Pan

[unborn panther]

Oh?

[unborn panther]

😂

[cinder oxide]

But it needs hella investment in estelle and Alesh

[edgy elk]

now just needa get the stagger to line up

[unborn panther]

:/

[ocean turret]

I'll use my lvl 20 dapan on this

[ocean turret]

HELL NAH

[edgy elk]

estella m1

[ocean turret]

Ill phase 2 rodhan

Then do the rotation

I hope dapan survives

[edgy elk]

we need to make it so that alesh's ult or bs puts him to 100% stagger

nah i believe we can phase skip

also estella can run xiranite cus she does sucep
it's purely damage per ss anyway

[ocean turret]

Bro i have lvl 20 dapan

[edgy elk]

so

pan dpsmaxx + exemplar
alesh frontiers + thermite
estella xiranite + idfk
pog aimaxx + fortmaker

[ocean turret]

We need to align stagger tho, she needs swordmancy

[edgy elk]

nah
long rot can get stagger nice and slow

it's damage per ss

so xira!!!

[ocean turret]

[gritty briar]

yeah just basic for stagger until you're ready for the rot

who cares if the rot takes 20 years?

[ocean turret]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[edgy elk]

clown perly 1.7M prototype

62 seconds

[cinder oxide]

Therm might lead to more dmg that Fort if you’re alr AImaxxing

[ocean turret]

I dont have thermite

[edgy elk]

alesh running therm

[cinder oxide]

Hmm fair

Never Rest?

[edgy elk]

lmfao. u have?

[cinder oxide]

Ye lvl 1

[edgy elk]

oh yeah right. ideally pog on NR

[gritty briar]

repute exists

[edgy elk]

hmmm ykw i'll make a rot with stagger etc and send it to one of u pan cultists to do

ohhh true

or do u wanna do it @ocean turret

[ocean turret]

Thermite has 20 sec window

[edgy elk]

i dont wanna steal ur idea

[ocean turret]

Im broke rn i cant do it yet

[edgy elk]

alesh on thermite. so it's daijoubu
ur proccing alesh right before the big wok bonk

[ocean turret]

I dont have thermite

[cinder oxide]

Hmm NR is a 20% dmg mult might not be worth

[edgy elk]

i mean, theoretically.

ik ur broke

[ocean turret]

I have never rest tho

[edgy elk]

more than fort tho
fort is just baby AI

[woven drift]

is Navigator more or less the same as Artsy Tyrannical for Yvonne?

[edgy elk]

no

[cinder oxide]

Fort is like 60-70 AI

[edgy elk]

artzy > wedge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navi

[woven drift]

Navigator is that bad?

[edgy elk]

diminishing returns at aimaxx

[cinder oxide]

Which is like 4% more breach suscept or smth

[edgy elk]

unless u p5 navi
then it catches up to p0 wedge

vonn wants critrate
navi only gives u critrate after u solidify

[ocean turret]

Who needs ai on alesh

[cinder oxide]

That’s why u use p3 wedge

[edgy elk]

but u don't
u need AI on pan (crush, shatter)

[woven drift]

I have a p5 navigator

[edgy elk]

my condolences
just use it then

sunk cost sinking something something

[ocean turret]

Dmg wont matter if the rotation wont work

[edgy elk]

wdym?

[ocean turret]

I mean dont think about dapan for now

[cinder oxide]

I should have a proper Rho speedkill done by Friday I can’t wait

[edgy elk]

stagger isnt an issue

alesh gotta be thermite

[woven drift]

If it's really that bad then it might get buffed to be more consistent with other battle pass 6star weapons

[edgy elk]

welllllll
you have navi, then u have opus: etch figure
i'd say bp are all pretty equal (except glorious memory the goat)

[cinder oxide]

Crush main dmg scales with AI though

[ocean turret]

Thermite and eminent have 20 sec window in their buff

[woven drift]

I also have a p3 wedge and a p0 artsy tyrannical. was just wondering what was more worth investing in.

[edgy elk]

i know, so pan needs AI
alesh don't.

[cinder oxide]

It’s like 1AI = 1% with no fall off

[edgy elk]

oh artzy no doubt

[cinder oxide]

Yeah you’d need p5 Wedge to compare to p0 Artzy

[edgy elk]

remember, outside critrate there's also main stat boost and 3rd line's raw cryo damage%+

[ocean turret]

How can i even get 3 estella bs within 9 secs

[edgy elk]

wait for 300SP

i did say that in my prep phase

[ocean turret]

Whos the best lead to do that

[edgy elk]

30 seconds breach. do some fs, do pan ult (trigger shieldguard twice), do pog cs (another shieldguard), you'll have time

also idk if 20 sec repute on pog would work, cus you'd need time to get that 300SP
so fortmaker is the safe bet

[woven drift]

yeah i randomly got p5 yvonne today (she's been stealing my 50/50's since laevatain) so i only just now started thinking about her

[edgy elk]

ayyyy
a fellow p5 vonn

[woven drift]

unintentional

lmao

[edgy elk]

same

sorta

i only pulled til p3 then two spooks afterward

[woven drift]

yvonne stealing your pulls

[edgy elk]

tang p0, no rossi hehe

[ocean turret]

I have never rest bro

It has 30 sec buff

[edgy elk]

ohhh slay

NR then

[cinder oxide]

It’s like 20% bonus so enjoy the tiny boost

[ocean turret]

Ignore that shi, whos gonna be lead op?

[cinder oxide]

It’s prob Estella

[edgy elk]

how fast is pog batk anim @cinder oxide

[edgy elk]

hell no

she's busy doing animation

[woven drift]

also my most recent weapon arsenal pulls were... interesting

I got three detonation orbs in a single ten pull. so now i'm the proud owner of a p5 deto orb, and the owner of two single p0 detonation orbs lmao

[edgy elk]

alesh and estella both busy doing anim

[cinder oxide]

Basics take a while but biggest issue is his skill casts are slow af

[ocean turret]

So pog then

[woven drift]

so now i'm thinking about what character would benefit from detonation orb the most

[edgy elk]

u wanna do as much simultaneously as possible

[cinder oxide]

Actually comparable to Chen in pure NA

[edgy elk]

eh its alright. pog skill casts only once, during prep phase, then none after during burst phase

[cinder oxide]

Hol up are u casting his cs

[edgy elk]

does pog get anim locked when shieldguards are doing shit?

[ocean turret]

Dapan wont do much

[cinder oxide]

No

[ocean turret]

Maybe dapan

[cinder oxide]

Are yall casting Pog cs in the rot

[edgy elk]

once, after his breach

[ocean turret]

Pog can cancel his skill if i dodge

[edgy elk]

not during the burst portion

[ocean turret]

Yes after popping ult

[woven drift]

Are there any online resources? weapon comparisons for operators and stuff like that? trying to find endfield content on YT is cursed because they're all useless clickbait stuff

[edgy elk]

after pan crush we don't care ab anything else

[cinder oxide]

You need to hit 5/6 of his bs/cs to max out NR buff

[edgy elk]

p5 deto for vonn team is wild

[cinder oxide]

Honestly maybe u can control Da Pan. He’s fun to control

[ocean turret]

Well you still need the sp

[edgy elk]

does pog ult count for NR

shieldguard harass

[cinder oxide]

Hmm yes shiuld be fine then ig

[ocean turret]

As long as it recover so yeah

[cinder oxide]

Is your Da Pan casting?

Any skills b4 cs

[ocean turret]

Only the first rot

[edgy elk]

1 shieldguard from pog cs, two from pan ult, two from estella

[woven drift]

Also what's the deal with Former Finery? There's no greatsword users with Will as their main stat.

[ocean turret]

2 bs then breach then ult then just wait for everything then crush

[edgy elk]

snowshine's heal scales off will

FF is a healing greatsword

[cinder oxide]

He needs to use 2 bs for exemplar so yeah fair nough

[gritty briar]

ember heal also scales off will

[woven drift]

So there isn't a lot of operators to benefit from it yet? Other than like, the tiny heals Snowshine and Ember heal themselves with?

[edgy elk]

snowshine heals teammates

[cinder oxide]

Isn’t Will legit just called the healing stat ingame

[woven drift]

oh

[edgy elk]

by the time ur using snowshine cope, i'd say you'd need all the heals u can get

[gritty briar]

ember heals whoever you have out when she combos

[cinder oxide]

Like str is phys def and int is arts def

[edgy elk]

str is hp

[woven drift]

My Laevatain has been clapping all content while i snore so far

[cinder oxide]

Oh yeah

Agi is phys def

[ocean turret]

Lead ember

[cinder oxide]

Which is super why

[woven drift]

i didn't even struggle with umbral monuments at all

[ocean turret]

Only protected will get heal

[edgy elk]

lowkey? all of us here

umbral strugglers are off in #help

[cinder oxide]

Now build for speedkills

[woven drift]

ahhh

[woven drift]

they're trimmed, that's good for me

[cinder oxide]

I struggled for Umbral till I realised how it worked. I need to read the description more

[ocean turret]

Alright i guess every thing is settled

[cinder oxide]

Only the bull thou

[woven drift]

Also having a Laevatain team made me realize that Akekuri is best girl.

My beloved.

[unborn panther]

https://tenor.com/view/sctv-window-smash-tv-tv-john-candy-gif-22239716

[ocean turret]

All that is left is m1 alesh

Estella doesnt need anything much

[unborn panther]

So the team is Estella, Alesh Pog and Da Pan I assume?

[ocean turret]

Yes

[unborn panther]

I was driving in FH5

[unborn panther]

Gotcha

[ocean turret]

You wanna do the honors?

[drifting quest]

so you're just back at normal shatter but with worse unit choices on the 2 flex now

what happened to the screenshot% stuff lmao

[ocean turret]

Sin said its doable

[cinder oxide]

Oooh we got Datamines

[unborn panther]

Who

[cinder oxide]

Wait is that legal here

Or same as leaks

[drifting quest]

datamines are fine as long as spoiler tagged

and are actually datamines

[ocean turret]

Just do this rot from estella cs to dapan crush within 9 secs

[drifting quest]

some people will just post leaks

and call them datamines

[woven drift]

Oh I might as well ask while I'm here, what weapon do yall reccomend for Akekuri? I've been satisfied with her sig and i'm only trying to minmax since i ran out of stuff to do for now.

[edgy elk]

pause pause i gotta cook up the full rot lol

[edgy elk]

thermite

[cinder oxide]

||Ok looks like ZFY is CharaID number 30||

Which if we math that out

Looks to be 1.3

[edgy elk]

||can u censor this||

[drifting quest]

'fine as long as spoiler tagged'

immediately posts without spoiler tag

[cinder oxide]

Mb

[drifting quest]

thats old info, anyway

[cinder oxide]

Yeah I just saw

[drifting quest]

doesnt mean anything

[cinder oxide]

What’s the numbers for current characters?

[drifting quest]

id have to go find the spreadsheet again

[cinder oxide]

I’d imagine Rossi is largest current or smth

[drifting quest]

||rossi's was lower count, iirc||

[outer ermine]

pretty close to sub 37

[cinder oxide]

||Other than that looks like ZFY has a self buff||

||Or whatever aura is||

||Maybe a form switch?||

[drifting quest]

||should be the same as early 1.0 fangyi kit stuff, afaik none of this is new||

||just reposted to farm engagement||

[cinder oxide]

Okok

Oh yeah the ||IDs don’t line up||

Looks like ||Rossi comes b4 Pog||

[chilly bolt]

What did i walk into

[sterile moat]

i am just interested to see if fy is really ||arts unit||

[cinder oxide]

||Datamine talk||

[cinder oxide]

Please be polearm

[outer ermine]

||gib me lizhi||

[drifting quest]

||was in 1.0, entirely stc at HG's will||

[cinder oxide]

||Arts units don’t have a good dps wp currently so idk how they gonna do it||

[sterile moat]

whats the most op, sword atm?

[cinder oxide]

Therm

[drifting quest]

||0008 0010 0027 0028 0030 0031 0032 0033|| are non 1.0

[cinder oxide]

Like off the top of my head it’s just Therm

[sterile moat]

cant wait for ||001 : priestess||

[drifting quest]

||0029 is pog, the rest of 1.0 cast is 0026 or earlier||

[cinder oxide]

||Might have redesigned him leading to a later placement or smth||

[drifting quest]

funny because ||0001 is specifically blank||

[cinder oxide]

||We could’ve gotten grandpa unc pog||

[ocean turret]

What is this? Some files on an island

[chilly bolt]

How is that spoiler

Just a boc skin

[drifting quest]

i know

[edgy elk]

|| i want lychee too||

[cinder oxide]

I want sleep

But that’s a commodity these days

[outer ermine]

i might 35s

5fs, 1interrupt

[urban plaza]

I hope the stream gives a ton of info
It has been so dry and we are 1 week to go...

[outer ermine]

fucked up only needed 4 ig

[woven drift]

btw here's proof

what do I even do with these now

hey girl i heard you like detonation orbs

[edgy elk]

make another one for elec/rossi team perlica

[woven drift]

effects don't stack tho

[unborn panther]

I am barely staying awake atm lol @edgy elk

It's 2:06 AM for me, I'm cooked fr

[edgy elk]

dont need to
it's just so u dont needa switch weapons

[unborn panther]

Dailies reset in 5 though

[edgy elk]

"just 2am? weak"
did u slep

[woven drift]

[unborn panther]

Not once

For the last 22 hours now? I'm not sure

[edgy elk]

bru

set alarm for 3h

[unborn panther]

Why

I will sleep through it, I'm a heavy sleeper lol

[edgy elk]

set two alarms within 1 min of each other

it works trust

[unborn panther]

Really now?

[edgy elk]

heyhey it's a real strat

[unborn panther]

Sounds like a trap Icl

[potent hornet]

new event starts today yea?

[pure spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1490792361465221130/wisadel.gif

[edgy elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194673125112172695/1473630385459036161/1ddbd461439604f55600e4503032453f.gif

[daring dove]

Finally getting a decent supply of these.

[warped sorrel]

how does Endmin P2 work exactly

is he giving 15% atk buff to other
or a half of his 30% atk buff from his own atk

[daring dove]

I think it's just half of all ATK buffs the Endmin recieves are transferred to teammates.

But I'm not sure if it stacks to be honest

[drifting quest]

Reflection of Authority
Talent Essence Disintegration improved: When the Endministrator gains the ATK buff, other allied operators gain half of this ATK buff.

Essence Disintegration
When the Originium Crystals attached to the enemy are consumed, the Endministrator gains ATK +30% for 15s. This effect cannot stack.

Essence Disintegration
When the Originium Crystals attached to the enemy are consumed, the Endministrator gains ATK +30% for 15s. Other allied operators gain half of this ATK buff (+15%) for 15s. This effect cannot stack.

[daring dove]

Ah so it's limited to 15% then.

That makes sense to be fair

Would be a bit broken if you could pull ATK buffs from Stanza & such as well.

[warped sorrel]

what i get from reading this in game is everyone get half of his atk buff from Essence Disintegration that are already cal on him

[drifting quest]

'the ATK buff'
'this ATK buff'

very much narrows it down to be the specific 30% buff of the talent

some descriptions can be worded poorly but this isnt one such case

[fossil pendant]

I dont think that's what they're asking

it's if it is a 15% attack buff as a standard buff to the other characters, or if half of the attack buff's final numerical value on endmin himself is transferred as a post facto addition to other characters

[daring dove]

Embers ATK buff is the best one anyway.

[fossil pendant]

which idfk but my chen calcs were always slightly off and I couldn't ever figure out why so maybe

[drifting quest]

its just a 15% buff

[daring dove]

10% ATK with a 50% uptime if you build Ember full ult gain

[warped sorrel]

so it is a 15% atk buff for everyone?

[fossil pendant]

everyone besides endmin himself yeah

[warped sorrel]

bruh

i thought it would be a final numerical value on endmin then give to other

[daring dove]

Hopefully we get a new potential for Endmin in 1.2, want to settle Endmin versus Depan debate once & for all.

[drifting quest]

monkeys paw

new endmin potential

but a new limited banner crusher

[warped sorrel]

endmin no longer work with newer operator

new type of crush

lock team

[chilly bolt]

Imagine endmin new pot giving something like x1.3 mult to crush for free

[warped sorrel]

i will be sad

because i decide to build dapan instead of mc

[echo cove]

Endmin pot gonna make her cs give lift

[drifting quest]

id want like

when skill crushes

apply 1 extra vuln next time you would apply vuln

or something

4/4/4 rots for endmin without fucking up lifeng

sp saving

[echo cove]

Was thinking that too

But if that happen, why not just spam crush 1

[drifting quest]

less damage for more sp

[echo cove]

Or more like crush 2 ig

Oh, right

[drifting quest]

if you spam endmin bskill it'd be
crush > 2 stack vuln no crush > crush

[echo cove]

Well u have chen's cs in between too

[drifting quest]

naturally

[warped sorrel]

apply 1 extra vuln after 4 vul crush only

[echo cove]

So u get 3 stack sumtimes

[drifting quest]

plenty of ways to balance it

[echo cove]

Yeah

[echo cove]

Tbh, that sounds more like a new talent

How abt ult applying crush instead@drifting quest

[drifting quest]

Messes up normal routing a bit

[echo cove]

[drifting quest]

Hard to say if it would be good

[echo cove]

I see

[daring dove]

I hope all the Endmin pots are cracked to be honest.

Would be nice if they can keep Endmin performing at a top 10 character level 6 months from now.

[heady pine]

Agility + 15 w/ 8% crit rate

Take it or leave it

[outer ermine]

bruh

[tall swift]

insane

[outer ermine]

its ight ig, cant get the timing im aiming for or maybe it doesnt work cuz everytime he just delays

[summer narwhal]

https://youtu.be/_3JJAzxh-jo?si=eD9VQWeIw1aB41ME

Is this a mastery issue, or does the Bull not die in one Ult spam?

[warped sinew]

cant even buy 100 at once lol, 99 is limit

[summer narwhal]

Or even a skill issue

[honest hill]

what a whel

[outer ermine]

fucckck

i threw a 9:36 rage

[honest hill]

keep trying

[outer ermine]

so timing works just really tight

imagine beating phy w shatter

[honest hill]

[outer ermine]

36 i think

hmm

too rng to chase

that 36 rage is gonna haunt tf out of me

[honest hill]

u going to sleep well tonight

[dry kindle]

Where the laev speedrun

[edgy crater]

u can do it urself

[outer ermine]

never got it again

[pure spoke]

mi fu when

[warped sorrel]

tomorrow

[pure spoke]

[warped sorrel]

because tonight she is with me

[dry kindle]

Fund my p5 wulf

[edgy crater]

what? u don't have p20 wulf?

[dry kindle]

Anyway

[edgy crater]

give it to me

[dry kindle]

I swear crisis is a scam

But I CBA doing recrisis

[frozen tide]

😭

I think crisis is better per sanity payout anyw

[dry kindle]

I'm getting fuck all random drops

They're equal before random

[frozen tide]

😭

[dry kindle]

150 of every gold mat soon surely

[frozen tide]

Y r u doing this

[dry kindle]

Tf else do I do

[edgy crater]

give me those mats

[frozen tide]

Im getting my deto unit 6 6 3

Highk see potential wit that weap

[dry kindle]

I swear if both 1.2 units are skips

[frozen tide]

Id be chill w that

Then i can dump everything into 1.3

[dry kindle]

I'm at like 40 till pity

Waaah

[frozen tide]

[dry kindle]

Should've pulled TT gg

[edgy crater]

💳

go off rate coping on rossie

[dry kindle]

[warm galleon]

You get to choose a 6 star wep everytime you get 2 extra rossie or standard ops

[normal tangle]

farm essence fodder for 1.2

god knows you'll need like 200

when i have nothing to farm i just do that

[dry kindle]

Already did

I think

Nvm only 40

+480 gel from idfk what

[warped sorrel]

actually

how many essence do you need exactly to max out one essence

[normal tangle]

it's rng so

anywhere from 12-400

usually around 150-200

i made up the 400 number i didn't do the math on that

[bronze plume]

farm more

i had like 80ish and didnt max rossis wep

farm 400 icl

that or lmd

fuck lmd

[dry kindle]

At least 3

[edgy crater]

4, u forgot the base essence

[ocean turret]

@edgy elk

I DID IT YOU PIECE OF SHI

I DID IT USING ALESH AT LVL 1 SKILLS

stagger is going to be the hard part

maybe at m1 alesh i can have enough sp to rot crush at stagger

[dry kindle]

Just drop +4

[swift horizon]

i have a question, in last rites potential 3 when it says 1.15 times the damage to ult and combo skill does that mean a 15% dmg increase or is it higher?

[chilly bolt]

Combo skill Winter's Devourer and ultimate Vigil Services improved: DMG multiplier increased to 1.15 times the original.

[bronze plume]

based on how math works its 15%

well a 15% higher mutliplier

which probably wont actually equal to a 15% dmg increase

[chilly bolt]

Yeah it's a 15% increase in total dmg, since there's no other increase source of skill dmg multiplier

[dry kindle]

It will

If you ignore defence

[bronze plume]

something something just tragodia it

[dry kindle]

Trag is paralysis not corrosion get it right

[edgy elk]

see thats so many times better than ur 1k2 crush

[ocean turret]

bro

i have lvl 20 dapan

can u stop it

[edgy elk]

fluo smear campaign

nahnah u did this w lv20 pan too didnt u

which means, it's all about the rotation

[ocean turret]

[edgy elk]

remove fluo
more damage
all you need to know

[ocean turret]

im just theory crafting before

now we have a proper team for shatter crush dapan

[edgy elk]

-# im not sln without fluo hate speech

now stagger him

[ocean turret]

im broke

i need alot of sp

[edgy elk]

wilt. fine

[ocean turret]

my alesh is lvl 1 cs and ult

[edgy crater]

build ur alesh

[edgy elk]

we need to find a phys player whos willing to build alesh or estella and get them to do it for us

[edgy crater]

dango

[edgy elk]

or just, find someone who plays both phys and shatter

oi hnaf dont u play shatter

[edgy crater]

lvl 60 Estelle

[edgy elk]

good enough.

[edgy crater]

still raw lol

[edgy elk]

in this rot she's xira buffbot

build your pan and we cook

[outer ermine]

wok

[edgy elk]

bonk

[edgy crater]

e3 60 1111

[ocean turret]

im too broke for this

[edgy crater]

im broke after e3 60 ember

[edgy elk]

yes but
why

[edgy crater]

the ROI

[edgy crater]

dijang skill

[outer ermine]

tf have yall been building

[edgy elk]

damage per ss. crush4 shatter4 da pan

[edgy crater]

dijang slaves

[edgy elk]

hifu u got pan built?

oh u dont have pog built nvm

fak we needa find a victim to do this for us

[ocean turret]

i think estella >lifeng on this one

[edgy crater]

+10% more on weap xp fact

[outer ermine]

10 years to make it back

[edgy crater]

my exemplar also still lvl 1

[edgy crater]

dats texas roi

[ocean turret]

expensive asf

[edgy elk]

m1 go!

[edgy crater]

btw, this one?

[ocean turret]

dapan mains should make this team so that they can have the glory on bonking

[edgy elk]

yessir

[ocean turret]

yup

[edgy elk]

did we find a victim

[edgy crater]

no

[edgy elk]

wut dat

[ocean turret]

exemplar

[edgy elk]

wait rly
i remember it being light silvery color

[terse valley]

greatswords looks like regular swords on dapan lol

[edgy crater]

but main problem, my dapan still raw

[edgy elk]

oh i guess that is exemplar

🥀

[edgy crater]

more like childs sword lol

[edgy elk]

guess we gotta find the dapan glazers
except they dont have alesh and estella

[terse raptor]

what skill does alesh needs?

[edgy crater]

@edgy elk tho my dapan gear like

[edgy elk]

its daijoubu
alesh cs r6 ult r1
estella cs m1

i suppose we can underlevel alesh and let natural sp regen take care of the missing bit of sp 🥀

[edgy crater]

estelle cs m1 kinda expensive

[terse raptor]

i have estella cs m1

[edgy elk]

the price u pay for 15% suscep

[chilly bolt]

I know you stole the chest from lr but i cant prove it

[terse raptor]

i think i can try this, but my da pan sucks

[edgy elk]

gul our lord and savior???

oh

🥀

[terse raptor]

yeah only lvl 20

[edgy elk]

i guess we go back to petitioning the pan cultists

[edgy crater]

u suck dapan? dats weird bro

[ocean turret]

need 600 int

[terse raptor]

watahell

[edgy elk]

nah tis fine
u just fishfish then critfish

all things probability only has two outcomes
u hit it or u don't

lr main mindset

[terse raptor]

so it's 50 50

[edgy elk]

[edgy crater]

with fortmaker, its possible lol

[ocean turret]

not even 5050 its 40:60

[edgy elk]

u dont get the joke 🥀

it's 100% success rate if u reset til u get it

[terse raptor]

ur alesh strong

[ocean turret]

oh

[edgy crater]

left from yvonne team

[ocean turret]

oh i know

300 uge

estella wont have a problem stacking cryo

alesh will do it too

[edgy elk]

ult cooldown

[ocean turret]

[edgy elk]

dwdw it's alr daijoubu. our requirements are just

• fully max dapan
• breachmaxxed pog
• estella cs m1
• alesh lv60 frontiers + thermite

we just needa find someone willing to bare invest alesh and invest estella

[ocean turret]

alesh need m1 ult

[edgy elk]

no

[ocean turret]

sp maxing

[terse raptor]

+5SP only

[edgy elk]

i looked again, if we time it well and do an fs during the burst, we don't need alesh cs or ult

[edgy crater]

gulden n i can go pog breaach maxxing

[edgy elk]

pog co, can simultaneously fs while other ppl are doing animation

then enough sp

[ocean turret]

[edgy crater]

btw what shit u wanna do again?

shattered dapan?

[edgy elk]

crush4 shatter4 pan

yeah

hold ur horses i first gotta finish irl work then make a full rot sample 🥀

or miko can do it

[terse raptor]

what set da pan uses?

[edgy crater]

@cinder oxide oi u build shattered?

[ocean turret]

yeah

[terse raptor]

aether?

[cinder oxide]

Nope I’m not doing that till we get a 6* shatter unit

[edgy elk]

murlock u wnna build alesh 60 estella cs m1?

not even if we ask nicely? uwu

[cinder oxide]

Hell nahhhhh I still need resources to start on Rossi

I’m so poor ask someone like Rena who has a morbillion resources

[edgy elk]

he aint ever building pan thats for sure

[cinder oxide]

True true

[edgy elk]

the only downside of this team
3 males

[edgy crater]

n 1 sleepy woman

[cinder oxide]

Of course the Cryo player would say this

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

[edgy crater]

[edgy elk]

well. "only downside" is a stretch
damage per ss plays by different rules ok

[cinder oxide]

I was always a proponent of the ntr core

[edgy elk]

oioi no slander. adelheid has my heart, the other 3 are my wingmen

[cinder oxide]

A big fat guy + a handsome guy + a shota

[edgy crater]

ok dapan shattered team feels like standard doujin troupe

[cinder oxide]

Aka the ntr avengers

[edgy elk]

fighting over..estella?????

[ocean turret]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[edgy elk]

wilt.

[cinder oxide]

Nah it’s over Chen now

That’s legit just monophys

[edgy elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541760801968128/1491257509602918546/ezgif-8a0be17ed590664e.gif

[edgy crater]

*insert ntr song

[edgy crater]

well yes

[ocean turret]

the dopamine of getting 3 words in one instance

[cinder oxide]

443553 with lvl 20

Waow

[edgy elk]

see.
build estella 🗣️

[edgy crater]

dats 2 number lol

[cinder oxide]

Oh

[edgy crater]

[cinder oxide]

Well then

[ocean turret]

oh my bad i need to send full pic

[edgy crater]

i want to say something but dats straight up warn worthy

[ocean turret]

i have solid, breach and almost a millisecord of phys susc from estella

[edgy elk]

i know you do
thank you for not disappointing my expectations

ok i gotta be productive
cya in 2h

yall bad for my productivity

[edgy crater]

btw, u need to find other victim

[dry kindle]

How the fuck

[edgy crater]

dont ask me

[cinder oxide]

I’m that poor too don’t worry

You lvl enough low lvls and that’s what happens

[ocean turret]

its 4480 crush with 3553 shatter

[cinder oxide]

You can also count the 1210 that should be dapan cs bonus dmg

Actually hmm seems a bit high for that extra tick

[ocean turret]

yeah cause you have 15phys susc on estella

[cinder oxide]

Ahhh that makes sense

[edgy crater]

miko, whats ur rot again?

[ocean turret]

i dont wanna main dapan but his kit is just self sufficient, thats why i wanna add shatter in his bonk

[ocean turret]

umm this is gonna be sp hungry

[edgy crater]

my pog already build, should be fine

hes m4 right now

[ocean turret]

did you watch the vid?

[bronze plume]

when do we think

shatter will get a actually good unit for it

mifu clearly

[edgy crater]

yeah but video will lose in chat history

[bronze plume]

each patch they will do their best to add at least 1 phys unit

[ocean turret]

okay ill try to put it to words

pog fs > pog ult > est bs + alesh bs > est cs > alesh cs > dapan bs 2x > pog bs >pog cs> estella bs+ alesh bs > estella bs 2x > est cs> alesh cs > alesh ult > est ult > dapan ult > est bs > alesh bs +dapan cs

should i put it to numeration?

[edgy crater]

nope

[ocean turret]

if you can make more optimal rot much better. cause i ran out of sp before i even do stagger

you can replace 1st est bs and use alesh ult if you can get alesh ult up before the bonk starts, but thats kinda hard i think

[outer ermine]

whole ass min to setup

[ocean turret]

🥀

maybe ruanyi the better boss for this comp?

[edgy elk]

messy 🥀

lemme draft another one

im sure there's a cleaner way

(impulse. i checked discord. rip productivity)

[outer ermine]

bros getting fired

[edgy crater]

skip ur productivity, go discord

[outer ermine]

same just got to work, immediately sat down to watch bili and discord

[ocean turret]

you can use 3 dapan bs insteald of est bs, alesh bs, and 2 dapan bs

i dunno why i did that🥀

[cinder oxide]

What yall think is the new weekly arsenal rotation

If it’s JET or Therm I’m dropping arsenals on it no qns

[ocean turret]

welp time to cook, im hungry🥀

[edgy crater]

dapan

[edgy elk]

@cinder oxide how much AI does a fully built da pan have

[cinder oxide]

Hmm depends on your definition

Cos he basically is necessitated

To have a uge glove

[edgy elk]

like, dmgmax gear, max artifice

no uge glove

this is dmg per ss

im calc for rot stagger and i needa know how much stagger is lift/kd

[cinder oxide]

Lemme check with someone who has the math then

[edgy elk]

nahnah just gimme the AI, i can do the math myself

i just dunno what gear he uses for damagemax

[cinder oxide]

Oh uhhh take it as just 2 AI kits

His AI is all from gear

[edgy elk]

what other gear then?

aether stagger dmg chestplate? and what gloves

[cinder oxide]

Dmg vs staggered and the new hot work gloves I think

[edgy elk]

oh so gloves AI too

sweet ok

[edgy crater]

just assume 179 from gear alone

like pulsar

[edgy elk]

but he running stagger dmg chest

[cinder oxide]

Yeah he always has that chest for non loop rots

[edgy elk]

wait murlock he's using aether stabilizer?

agi/str/ai?

[cinder oxide]

Yep aether set bonus

[edgy elk]

okok

[cinder oxide]

Yes

It’s whack I know

But it does more dmg overall than SM

[edgy elk]

hmmmm so i gotta account for AT set bonus too..

apply 4th vuln stack, 10sec

wilt. gotta change the rot

[cinder oxide]

Yeah Iana set are generally correct

Accurate to loops vs speedkill set

[edgy elk]

does pan p5 bs trigger aether set bonus if it applies 3rd+4th vuln?

idk how aether works if ur applying 2 vuln at once

[cinder oxide]

It triggers at the 4th vuln

So it doesn’t work if at 2 vuln

Then applies 2

Waste of a stack but you’ll get it

[edgy elk]

oh nvm nvm i get what u mean

fk. gotta change rot 🥀

it'll be daijoubu

how long is pan ult casting time?

[cinder oxide]

Quite fast honestly

[edgy elk]

seconds?

[cinder oxide]

Like less than 2s

[edgy elk]

okok

danke

that works

[cinder oxide]

Compared to LF his ult casts fast af

[edgy elk]

how long is pan's hit cycle with cancels

[cinder oxide]

Quite slow but mathed out he gets decent sp gain and stagger

BUT

the main issue with him as CO

Is that bs is a slow ass move

[edgy elk]

ahhh bs slow hm

alright noted

not an issue for this rot thankfully

[cinder oxide]

Note that the bs can break red ring asap

[edgy elk]

but ig im sticking w pog co

eh it's rho. we dgaf ab red ring

[cinder oxide]

Fair

[edgy elk]

152.5 ai hmm

sounds ab right?

[cinder oxide]

Looks gucchi but idk where the decimal comes from

[edgy elk]

27 stagger per bs

[cinder oxide]

Ahhhh

Yeah that clocks

[edgy elk]

cus endfield rounds stagger down 🥀

[ocean turret]

tbh i have exemplar lvl 80, the problem is i get phased 2 every time i use it

[cinder oxide]

Note that Da Pan rotations always have the issue of needing to time out Da Pan cs after u cast Pog bs b4 u can cast other cs

Best case is to get to 4 vuln fast as possible

Then gain some sp b4 u pog bs

[edgy elk]

ah i see

[cinder oxide]

This’ll make sure Pog cs actually has time to be cast

[edgy elk]

what if i just waste pan cs on blank 0vul

how long's his cd

[cinder oxide]

Damn long if you don’t use his ult

[edgy elk]

20sec hm

can i stall for that

[cinder oxide]

Ok Da Pan has special thing

[edgy elk]

i think 4 ults stalls me 10sec?

[cinder oxide]

Where if he has special stacks

[edgy elk]

oH that thing

[cinder oxide]

He gets up to 40% cd reduction

[edgy elk]

u get it from ult no?

[cinder oxide]

So if u ult b4 the cs use

His cd is like 12s

[edgy elk]

nah nvm i cant do that

i need his ult to proc aethertech

[cinder oxide]

Yeah fair nough

I mean

[edgy elk]

oh i have an idea lol

i'll just let his cs expire before i pog breach

ezpz

[cinder oxide]

Usually in most phys rots we start with enhanced bs

Cos it has a long cd so might as well

[edgy elk]

fair enough

i'm only gonna use his ebs once tho

[cinder oxide]

True dat

[edgy elk]

dmg per ss different rules 😎
i aint learning phys rot haha

[outer ermine]

https://vxb23.tv/BV1scDHBfEmC
oh ye sin, ztill pretty early so waiting for shatter dude to wake up and do it w better gear

[edgy elk]

besides i still gotta stall for 300SP before i start burst

[outer ermine]

i get to chill now

[cinder oxide]

Yep welcome to standard Da Pan rotations

[edgy elk]

btw i love ur music

[cinder oxide]

You can cast Pog bs like halfway into Da Pan cs expire

Don’t need to wait out the whole thing

[outer ermine]

i had to delay the whole ass vid to fit it

[cinder oxide]

My rec is to cast it as soon as u have the sp

[outer ermine]

speedrun problems

[edgy elk]

but why don't u rec the sfx and operators voicelines

just turn off endfield music and rec the rest of the audio

if 2 audio sources come from different languages the brain won't clash for it (u play cn voicelines right)

rossi ult feels wrong when silent 🥀

[outer ermine]

oh yea i mute everything when recording/dditing

[cinder oxide]

I still just use raw audio from OBS but tbf I’m not a content creator

Also do your etchspace quest goddamn @outer ermine

It’s almost 1.2 and u haven’t done IV

[outer ermine]

oh ye burst feels better w sfx

[edgy elk]

wait im watching in slomo
at ~33 how'd he get solidified

[outer ermine]

wtf how did u know

[edgy elk]

he popped a heat stack and somehow got solid

ohh estella bs -> cs

it was too fast i didnt register it

[cinder oxide]

Section b4 u entered chara menu

Quest marker in the top left

[edgy elk]

[dry kindle]

Fund my mifu fangyi

[cinder oxide]

Just realised max pot GV but +2 essence

[outer ermine]

wasnt iv new ill do it in a year

[edgy elk]

it's literally 30 minutes

speedrun it

[dry kindle]

Yeah

This patch

[cinder oxide]

Bro has irl $ he doesn’t need handouts from HG

[dry kindle]

[cold bane]

yeah i also am conflicted wether to continue this quest, it is too funny to pick up shrooms in this region and hear TT screaming

[dry kindle]

Still need to do every fuckin chest in the game

[outer ermine]

bros slaccing more thab me

[cinder oxide]

Slackers fr

The Lot of yall

The only thing I’m slacking on is all 333 files

I’m at like 280

[cinder oxide]

If I had that lvl of wealth I wouldn’t too

[dry kindle]

I got bored after like 10 chests

[dry kindle]

Inb4 120 fangyi

[dry kindle]

MF forgot I didn't even do the 1.2 intro event

[cinder oxide]

I’m not pulling either MF or ZFY Time to break my every chara streak

[dry kindle]

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[outer ermine]

[dry kindle]

Also

Not even 60 still

I'm a professional

[outer ermine]

whel behavior also dam everyones asia

[dry kindle]

Guess who exhausted 27 or whatever sanity sticks

i blame daylight savings

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-2881577801438605193

[outer ermine]

wait wtf it expired? all 27

[dry kindle]

Like I said I'm a professional

[edgy elk]

how much SP regen is finisher again? 1.5 bars?

[outer ermine]

100 for boss iirc

[edgy elk]

hm ok

[chilly bolt]

doesnt \it varies with different boss?

[edgy elk]

oh does it?

i'll just do 100sp to be safe then

i remember marble orb giving me 150

oh there. rho gives 100 says wiki

[chilly bolt]

oh 100sp

so it's just 100sp for boss

[fossil pendant]

it varies by enemy level

bosses are 100 yes

[edgy elk]

ohh boy @ocean turret this is gonna be a long rot

but i got it working, stagger lines up, SP should line up

i'll go playtest it AFTER i do some work 🥀
need to be productive

[ocean turret]

thats not long rot if it lines up on stagger

[edgy elk]

oh lol ok

a lot of waiting for SP tho