theorycrafting

[fossil pendant]

you know what a normal distribution looks like

[icy remnant]

You simply just get closer and closer to average

[fossil pendant]

not everyone is going to be in the center

the worst case is always relevant

even if it's to a small percentage of people

[smoky quarry]

second banner has hit the wallets

[fossil pendant]

why do you think pity exists at all

[icy remnant]

The worst case gets a lot less relevant after you’re 1 entire year in

Like there’s only so many tails you flip in a row

[bronze plume]

i lost 50/50 in genshin for 2 years straight

[potent hornet]

yea i am at the point that if i want any real amount of pulls i have to save for a really long time or pull out the wallet

[fossil pendant]

there is no point at which you deterministically stop getting fucked

[bronze plume]

which was about 12 loses in a row

so like

[icy remnant]

I mean yes the pity exists I’m just saying I think averages are alot more important than edge case scenarios

[fossil pendant]

sure I don't disagree

[potent hornet]

this is probably why i won't have rossi this time around

[fossil pendant]

but the edge cases are huge for perception

everyone remembers tectone pulling staff of homa

or whatever it was

[bronze plume]

i think everybody does there best to remove that guy from their memories

[fossil pendant]

I don't like the guy

but that was a generational moment

[formal copper]

How many 50/50s do we realistically get per year?

[icy remnant]

Abit too early for that

lol

[bronze plume]

yeah we need more then just 1.1 to go off

to get a rough estimate of pulls per patch

and if patches and still going to last literally a month

[tight haven]

we get about one per patch

[icy remnant]

Also according to some vibes we might get some game modes soon

[bronze plume]

at this rate if each patch is as long as 1.1

[tight haven]

as in around ~68 pulls(?)

[bronze plume]

how much is that per year

like 10 patches?

[honest hill]

who knows we might get a shit ton of pulls in 1.2/3 because of zhuang/mi fu

[fossil pendant]

we better

[icy remnant]

We got 90 pulls this patch from book keeping?

[fossil pendant]

I'd like to be able to pay my rent

and still p5 her

[formal copper]

Cause I can realistically see someone losing 10 50/50s in a row, he won't care a lot that in the long-term luck doesn't matter

[icy remnant]

How’d we end up at 68

[potent hornet]

they said 1.2 is supposed to be big, new factory area ect

[tight haven]

which pulls are you counting

[icy remnant]

We’re counting limited pulls too right?
Since we’re counting 50/50

[honest hill]

how many pulls we got this patch then

[tight haven]

im not counting shop pulls

last i checked we were on track to have a little less than 70

[honest hill]

shop pulls shouldn't count ye

[fossil pendant]

remind me how many standard tickets we got this patch

[tight haven]

bot counting standards either

[formal copper]

When in doubt just consult https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zGNuQ53R7c190RG40dHxcHv8tJuT3cBaclm8CjI-luY/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[honest hill]

standard should be counted seperately

[potent hornet]

unsure but i do have every chest/aura found in every area and all quests and stuff complete and i didn't save and i'm at 495 orbs atm

[honest hill]

495k?

[formal copper]

16 standard banner tickets

[potent hornet]

no

i spend everything

[honest hill]

[tight haven]

yeah 16 is correct

not... the worst

[fossil pendant]

that's not bad

five patches for a pity lines up

[potent hornet]

i did buy orbs as well for tang tang

[fossil pendant]

decently with other games

[icy remnant]

While also getting weapons

[formal copper]

Arsenal ticket handouts

[honest hill]

okay it says 79.2 without the aic exchange

[icy remnant]

So 90

[honest hill]

I wouldn't count aic exchange

[icy remnant]

I count it

[honest hill]

that's like counting standard pulls

[icy remnant]

We’re counting number of 50/50s

Wdym

[honest hill]

ig u can count it

assuming u always get those pulls by pulling enough

[icy remnant]

Also pretending soft pity doesn’t matter is just Reddit slander

70+% of the time it will matter

[honest hill]

ye soft pity does exist

[icy remnant]

And if you start the banner with 30+ pity it will matter 80+% of the time

Because you are way more likely to get the character you want off soft pity rather than hard pity

So shop tickets need to be counted fully or if you want to discount it you can count it as 80% value or whatever

That’s my take

[honest hill]

I mean how many pulls does it take to get 350 aic quota on average

then u got the bond quota

[daring dove]

Prediction time, do we think the 1.2 characters will be meaningfully better than the 1.1 characters. For me Rossi & especially Tangtang seems a big step up from the 1.0 lot (ignoring Gilbeta).

But Gilberta's just an enablier she doesn't do much by herself anyway.

[elfin smelt]

hrm I do hope they give electric some love soon

[honest hill]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-arknights-endfield-endfield-cutscene-teaser-gif-460032105758258125

[elfin smelt]

would be funny if she's dual Nature/Electric

[honest hill]

ye can happen

she's green

[elfin smelt]

anyway Xaihi's value would only go up if Nature focused team is a thing

[bronze plume]

if i spray paint green on all ops does that make everyone nature

[elfin smelt]

Ardelia infection

[outer ermine]

@tight haven oh ye my artzy, im still safe from 500

ive been gettting luckier tho ill show in otehr dc

[honest hill]

ye

ardelia is not green because mr dolly

she's special

[tight haven]

LMAOOOO same as my scathe pulls

[bronze plume]

im going to shear mr dolly and wear him as a coat

[icy remnant]

The math seems to say you’ll need to pull every ~2.7 banners for this to be sustainable long term
Assuming 6 stars all give 0 quota except target 6 star that gives 30

[honest hill]

but how many pulls do u need

[icy remnant]

Without any 6 stars it’s 6.5 quota per pull if I take 5 star at 10%

Wait lemme grab what’s the actual rate of 5 stars

Idk why I just assumed 10%

Wait why am I even doing this

[daring dove]

Ardelia's value will go nuclear once we finally get a strong nature team. Won't have to worry about silly conditions to trigger her combo skill corrosion then I hope.

[elfin smelt]

Nature vanguard

xd

[icy remnant]

Okay 5 star rate isn’t 10% it’s 14.1% w the pity mechanic

[bronze plume]

all of that just for her to be gilbertas sidegrade

[icy remnant]

Okay average of pulls to get back the 350 quota is 49 pulls excluding any new characters which will give a jump of 30 quota

[fossil pendant]

might be closer to 40 if you count the arsenal ticket equivalency

[daring dove]

If we get an easy way to apply corrosion that isn't massively SP heavy, so we can trigger Ardelia's kit / weapon shred for 100 SP per rotation. Then I do think she'll be better than Gilberta in said team. Especially if the teams DPS doesn't team all their damage in a 5 second window.

[icy remnant]

Oh yea this gives alot

I think it will end up wanting you to pull every 3 banners

To maintain the AIC quotas

Not necessarily every 3rd banner but 1/3 banners in total

[elfin smelt]

good deal

and here I was thinking about buying the rare mats instead of farming them

with AIC quotas

[icy remnant]

I mean if you are pulling more than 1/3 banners

You’ll never run into the problem of running out

[elfin smelt]

I do have 3k of it lying around yea...

[icy remnant]

A person pulling 1/2 banners will stack up excess into excess

To have thousands unspent

You can probably do what you want at that point

[smoky quarry]

just wait a little bit, ardelia will become better than "better than suboptimal"

She's balancing on the very edge of it

[daring dove]

I think she could be argued at optimal in Leavatain teams at high investment. Since Gilberta doesn't really offer an awful lot of Leavatain.

Outside of that yeah you just use Gilberta rn, hopwfully nature team fixes that.

I'd love it if Ardelia booted Gilberta out of Nature team.

They don't exist every where together since Gilberta vuln stack griefs Ardelia more often than it helps.

But maybe if we get another source of corrision in nature it won't matter.

[midnight stirrup]

Why would she

Gilberta has aoe, has accessibility to nature reactions and vulnerability is active alongside infliction rather than replacing it

[daring dove]

I mean I suppose Gilberta's combo skill would provide an extra nature stack. Which would be a nice QoL, but Ardelia's buffs would be better in a team where she doesn't have to struggle for corrosion uptime.

Provided you have the SP to spare for them at least.

That's always the biggest blocker.

[midnight stirrup]

Gilberta combo skill doesnt do nature infliction

It applies vuln

Its her ult that applies nature

or triggers a reaction

[daring dove]

Yeah sorry, it's ult I remember seeing it appear from somewhere occasionally.

[midnight stirrup]

Ardelia will be good in nature teams

But so will Gilberta likely

[daring dove]

Like I said if you get another source of corrasion you don't have to worry about it. But if you don't you just have Gilberta vuln stacks blocking Ardelia's ability to do anything.

So anti-synergyh when they're on the same team.

[midnight stirrup]

I mean you wouldnt want to run them together regardless

Unless a specific team suddenly allows for it

[daring dove]

You might if we got another source of corrision.

[drifting quest]

would suffer the same issues as ard in current teams

sp cost, opportunity cost vs other buffers/debuffers, etc

[midnight stirrup]

Whats the point of Ardelia if shes not the one inflicting corrosion

Am I missremembering something

[drifting quest]

ard can refresh a 4 stack corro

[daring dove]

All of Ardelia's buffs / debuffs come from consuming corrasion it's irrelevant who applied it.

[midnight stirrup]

Oh forgot about that

Then I tap out of this convo cause idk

But I think Gilb will still be better for nature personally

Who knows tho

HG be doing random shit with kits

Genshin "Were not adding endgame to prevent giving our players anxiety" ahh comment

[drifting quest]

i mean its a much better way to do it

even if its anti tc

[midnight stirrup]

It means we wont see severe powercreep for a while which I can appreciate

But like

[drifting quest]

hopefully it gets a bit harder but still

[midnight stirrup]

The combat is rly fun for hard endgame so its tragic were not getting it

[drifting quest]

fine line between hard and boring

[midnight stirrup]

Hardest endgame rn is P5 a weapon

[daring dove]

Proceeds to release a mode a few years later where you need constellation to clear it at the highest difficulty.

[drifting quest]

50-100% more hp would be about the upper limit id say

[drifting berry]

Zzz does it well, were you get all rewards at 20k score, but you can keep going up to 65k

[proud vector]

fck would be so good

[midnight stirrup]

Ig so yeah

[proud vector]

Because that means people will theorycrafting and refine the shit out of strategies that don’t need constellations

[drifting quest]

but id prefer that the difficulty comes more from enemy attacks than enemy hp bar

[proud vector]

And that would be glorious

[lyric latch]

wasnt that part about the future of the factory?

[midnight stirrup]

I hope they take the mmo approach

[proud vector]

There is a fine line there too tbf

[drifting quest]

would be so funny if misinfo became rampant from a cropped screenshot out of context

[midnight stirrup]

where u gotta do specific boss mechanics, avoiding stuff etc or stand in a circle to prevent nuke etc with a small timer

rather than shinny

[proud vector]

Being ganked by like 5 dudes with massive attacks and no gaps is no fun

[drifting quest]

naturally

[daring dove]

I like a variety, every game needs a good damage sponge allows you to properly test your teams over multiple rots.

[drifting quest]

as i said i really liked this umbral and i think more like it is good

each boss had some thing that made it hard and disincentivised rotation simulator

but had clear counterplay you could do

[midnight stirrup]

Got posted in a tc server so I assume it was about tc but who knows

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah

Umbral was fun

[daring dove]

Most of the bosses we have rn, argubly all of them are terrible to testing your rotations on.

[midnight stirrup]

Rhodagon is only terrible bc of phase transition

Hes perfect otherwise

[daring dove]

As most trigger cutscene-no-jutsu the second you hit them a few times.

[midnight stirrup]

U can test on the bull in umbral

but no ults

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-angry-trapped-gif-18405034053393542503

[drifting quest]

yeah i think several people said they test on umbral bosses now

the 3rd stage of this umbral or the last umbral stage 3

[daring dove]

It's good for testing the consistency of bosses since you start with zero energy.

But sometimes it's fun to start with full energy as well.

[proud vector]

Custom mode on Dijiang would go hard

🙏

Crank up Rod to level 300

[drifting quest]

stage editor stuff would be pretty banger

low effort infinite content

share codes for custom umbral stages

put some achievements or something behind it as well

[midnight stirrup]

I dislike that they made medals so common

The whole 'these have status' dissapeared so quick

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-angry-trapped-gif-18405034053393542503

[outer ermine]

geo dash flashbacks

[daring dove]

We'd have a proper way to test the highest damage combo's if we got a stage editor yeah.

When we finally got DPS checker stage in Genshin we all found most sheet calcs where way off.

Especially at high investment.

Or maybe not that the calcs where off just the assumptions on how you do your rotations where bad.

[icy remnant]

I have such a peeve with this AI generated “interview”
This has seen 4 different variations of some off comment of the devs of which was clearly not spoken in English nor clearly

And every single one seeks to be its own click bait article and it’s succeeding

[outer ermine]

just one msg sin

[icy remnant]

Heck I don’t even think the devs officially said anything yet
It seems to just be a rewording of a previous interview

And then fed through AI

[edgy elk]

but it's the same feeling u get from an offbanner spook

[icy remnant]

It’s really all about mass producing slop for masses to read now

[outer ermine]

once in a lifetime spark

[midnight stirrup]

Whats so bad about the interview

Nothing off or controversial was said in it

Screenshots out of context sure

But the interview itself seemed like a normal interview

[icy remnant]

The exact same “interview” has 4 different variations of the same stuff interpreted differently posted as different articles, one saying it was about AIC one saying it was about combat/gacha

No sources no original words, all posted all on the same site with a ton of ads

There’s nothing telling me it’s not just AI produced slop which it very well might just be

[midnight stirrup]

The screenshot I posted earlier was about aic after checking the source

It was never about the combat

Idk why this would be AI breh, its not that deep in the first place

[icy remnant]

There’s another article interpreting the same words but for combat

Also on games radar

[midnight stirrup]

Do you have said article

[smoky quarry]

You see, interview is like a leak, it just happened to be approved by GH

[icy remnant]

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/arknights-endfield-lead-says-good-gacha-systems-dont-impact-the-players-ability-to-enjoy-the-gameplay-and-endfield-is-trying-to-fix-its-confusing-gacha/

I wish I could find the old “interview” which said the exact same thing but it’s not on this site
This one was regarding gacha and making sure stuff can be cleared without it

[midnight stirrup]

[icy remnant]

Anyways I don’t like how low quality it is and how they provide no actual sources

It can very easily just straight up be misrepresented too since it’s likely not spoken in English

[midnight stirrup]

Well arent they the source themselves since they did the interview

[icy remnant]

They’re not

Here’s the original interview a month back

And wordings are all completely off

Fed through an AI translator

Or purposely misworded

[midnight stirrup]

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/arknights-endfield-dev-says-launching-a-new-gacha-rpg-in-a-post-genshin-impact-world-is-tough-when-some-titles-are-so-similar-that-players-go-into-a-game-for-1-hour-and-they-know-what-will-happen-in-the-next-20-hours/

[icy remnant]

For example this

[midnight stirrup]

This clearly states Austin Wood was the one who did the interview tho

[icy remnant]

It’s the exact same stuff

https://automaton-media.com/en/interviews/arknights-endfields-factory-systems-will-diversify-rather-than-become-more-complex-developers-say-if-things-feel-difficult-theres-no-need-to-rush/

Whatever

[drifting berry]

imagine

they don't do Dev log for 1.2

[icy remnant]

I’ll be in shambles

[drifting berry]

Having no idea what we will get for next patch until manteinance starts and people datamine the characters

[lyric latch]

no dev log, then on the 14th they drop that next banner is Fangyi. people will crash out.

[drifting berry]

"Don't pull until they announce next banner"

[icy remnant]

Still don’t know why everyone is crazy over Fangyi

[drifting berry]

She looks like Shu

[icy remnant]

Still

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-shu-cooking-gif-18355424297248158766

[icy remnant]

[midnight stirrup]

I mean she is pretty

She just doesnt have a lot of personality

[drifting berry]

Yeah she's a very pretty leak

[midnight stirrup]

Zhuang Fangyi gave new definition to Foodies

[lyric latch]

I also dont know. ATM I am just waiting Mi Fu. But quite a few friends of mine are all over the leek lady.

[midnight stirrup]

I can respect disliking Fangyi

[drifting berry]

.fangyi

[midnight stirrup]

But liking Mi Fu over her

[icy remnant]

It’s also like everyone expecting her to be an Archon

[midnight stirrup]

[icy remnant]

I like Mifu more than Fangyi

Mifu and TangTang are actual characters

Fangyi is a cardboard

[midnight stirrup]

Interesting

[lyric latch]

Archon/Emanator/VoidHunter
Mihoyo really did irreparable damage to people's expectations

[drifting quest]

to be fair its not like hoyo started it

[icy remnant]

[midnight stirrup]

I think yall have the wrong idea with what people mean by calling her the archon of this game

[drifting berry]

To be fair Fangyi hasn't have that much exposure. Just that portion on the 1.0 story which I somewhat dislike but could improve

[drifting quest]

it's been a thing for as long as gacha has

[midnight stirrup]

They dont literally mean shes the god/all being of the region

It refers to her being the major character of the region

[drifting quest]

prominent figure of the region saved till towards the end of the main story arc

[midnight stirrup]

But well find out next patch

[drifting quest]

its as generic a concept as it gets

[icy remnant]

Time to break the trend and make her weaker than Yvonne

[drifting berry]

Fangyi will show up on 1.2 and oneshot Nefarith

[icy remnant]

Idk how that’s possible but do it

[midnight stirrup]

President over Wuling weaker than a Valley IV nerd

Surely

[drifting quest]

yvonne isnt weak so its not like its a low bar or anything

[midnight stirrup]

Hoyo doesnt do this tho

[drifting quest]

perfectly plausible outcome

[midnight stirrup]

Neither does Kuro

They usually release 2 patches in

[drifting quest]

which is towards the end of the main story arc

[midnight stirrup]

[icy remnant]

I just want Mifu soon

[midnight stirrup]

Lemme double check that

For wuwa Lahai-roi and Rinascita main quest went way further than resonater release

[icy remnant]

Mifu into Fangyi would be

[drifting quest]

cant comment on nod krai i didnt play it

but natlan fontaine sumeru

all had the archons either on the patch main story concluded or like one patch before it

[icy remnant]

I’ll roll for both if they both come soon
Then I’ll need to save for Gilberta rerun

[drifting quest]

wuwa i dont know either but at least early on you had like

jinhsi release when that arc was being concluded

cartwheel when her arc was concluded

iuno augusta when that arc was concluding

etc

[midnight stirrup]

Cartwheel arc wasnt concluded there

[drifting berry]

Venti was 1.0, Geo guy was on 1.1. Raiden was 2.1. Nahida 3.2

[drifting quest]

she got extra stuff after but her main arc was over

[midnight stirrup]

Naur

The whole conclusion of Rinascita still had a lot to do with Carthetiya

[drifting berry]

The equivalent for ZZZ would be Miyabi at 1.3, Xiyuan at 2.0 and YSG at 2.5

[drifting quest]

she was mostly sidelined for new chars to show off, no

[drifting berry]

hsr got no idea

[drifting quest]

hsr does it a lot too

[midnight stirrup]

I mean yeah bc u sell the character in the patch theyre in

She still played a major role tho

[drifting quest]

which is the point i am making

[midnight stirrup]

Unlike non-resonators who get forgotten the next patch

[drifting quest]

the major figure usually does their thing towards the end of the arc

and hence they get released

[midnight stirrup]

You said the main story concluded on resonator release

[drifting quest]

towards the end of the arc

[midnight stirrup]

which isnt true

[drifting quest]

story arcs

there's filler or interludes or the like after

[midnight stirrup]

Her 'story' being concluded also wasnt true

[drifting quest]

they might show up again in future story

but their main arc usually ends

you can nitpick the way i worded it which is fine

[drifting berry]

It al depends whenever Wulling story arc ends on 1.2 or 1.3, but I don't think it will be extended further than 1.3

[drifting quest]

i could have been clearer

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym nitpick, im literally just answering ur statements

which are wrong

Resonators still play a major role in the future patches

Its the same with aemaeth

Every patch since her story patch has been mentioning her and about saving her

[drifting quest]

i cant comment about current wuwa

but at least in prior wuwa

the trend was the same

[midnight stirrup]

Did you play till the conclusion of Rinascita?

[drifting quest]

no but I played most of it

[icy remnant]

I’m hoping for reruns starting from 1.4

[midnight stirrup]

[drifting quest]

i didnt play galbrena stuff onwards

or whatever her name was

obviously cartwheel was relevant for that

im aware

[midnight stirrup]

Well play it and youll change ur mind on that view

[drifting quest]

but her main arc was still concluded

i would play it if wuwa didnt turn any device released before 2024 into a nuclear reactor

[midnight stirrup]

See now that is true

[drifting quest]

while taking up enough space to store wikipedia 4 times over

[midnight stirrup]

Trueke even

[drifting berry]

just use cloud gaming and now is their problem to deal with the 100cº computer

[drifting quest]

i kept meaning to look into cloud gaming for it yeah

there was a reason i didnt initially

i forget what it was

[drifting berry]

maybe internet? For me the basic plan runs everything at max, tho at 1080p

[drifting quest]

nah it was something to do with nvidia

i think my pc was too old or something

ah yes

subscription models

[drifting berry]

.

how so

[drifting quest]

last time i checked I lacked drivers required

now seems fine but lmao subscription

[drifting berry]

oh yeah, I'm using it provisionally, prob for 6 months or so

I only use it to play on gachas and I already pay my monthlies on each gacha

[icy remnant]

Wuwa made my phone actually too hot to be held

And it was a really good phone at the time too

[drifting berry]

You play

with oven gloves

solved

[drifting quest]

root issue im not paying to play a f2p gacha lol

free model looks miserable

[drifting berry]

if it gets to hot the phone will shut down

Free model is just bad, I used it to see it if worked

[icy remnant]

Endfield actually feels nice to play on mobile

[drifting berry]

I'd imagine, requirements have to be really similar to genshin

[icy remnant]

Genshin is worse

[drifting berry]

and looks better than genshin on low setting

[icy remnant]

Genshin is laggy lol

[drifting quest]

ef runs a lot better

wuwa?

endfield

wuwa runs like shit

[icy remnant]

Endfield runs way better it’s not in the same ball park

Not even in the same realm

It’s like
Endfield>>>>>>>Genshin>>>>>>>>>>

Wuwa

[midnight stirrup]

Ive seen a couple people say now that Endfield artstyle is worse to them than Wuwa

and im like

https://giphy.com/gifs/uhm-neJJVczTGFEha

Right sharon

[icy remnant]

Wuwa releasing as a mobile game and refusing to cater to mobile players

Why even release it as a mobile game then

[drifting berry]

Arknights look light years better than Wuwa, tho I have only played the content from 1.0 wuwa so far

Maybe it gets better but then we are comparing a game with 2 or more years vs a newly release gacha

[midnight stirrup]

It never gets better than akef tbh

Lahai-roi is pretty fucking ugly

Rinascita looks good, but still very flat

[icy remnant]

If I install Wuwa today will my phone lose a few years of lifespan

[midnight stirrup]

Yes

[drifting berry]

I wanted to pull on the current banner but it seems that she need to be faired with the guy from the other banner

[quartz horizon]

i hated wuwa when i only had a mobile. its a thousand times better on pc

[drifting berry]

to expensive and not pulling for male

[icy remnant]

A gacha game on PC

[drifting berry]

The only gacha I play on phone is Trickcal

[icy remnant]

Well I used to cope with it for Wuwa

I only really stopped playing Wuwa when we had like months of no content

I was sitting around doing nothing but just watching Shorekeeper in her realm

[rich linden]

i just play this and genshin

[midnight stirrup]

Wuwa feels super cheap to play through. I hate the story segments where its not a cutscene and they try to be ambigious

And it looks like so cheap

Need to find an example

[icy remnant]

My fav part of Wuwa was the combat but it got pretty boring very fast

Fav ended up being Danjin solos but it was still very boring

[rich linden]

is this enough chara exp mats?

[quartz horizon]

all gacha have no content eventually
im playing 4 at once cuz then i have something to do

[icy remnant]

[rich linden]

got ab the same amount of weapon mats too tbh wd even farm

[icy remnant]

I took advantage of them to level90 some characters I was gonna leave at 80

We really got a lot of mats now honestly

[rich linden]

frr

lowest cortisol gacha game

<3

[rich linden]

gilberta?

oh nvm thats wuwa

[midnight stirrup]

Ew gross the diddler is here

[drifting quest]

????????????????????

[rich linden]

wtf?

oh

[icy remnant]

?

[rich linden]

ig ill start spamming t creds space

[chilly bolt]

You'll have to farm lmd at some point

[rich linden]

whats that?

[chilly bolt]

T credit but in arknights

[rich linden]

ah

[drifting quest]

lungmen dollars

[icy remnant]

I saw some stuff speculating Fangyi and Li Zhiyan in 1.2

Cus of how the 1.1 dev log was

Would make me sad but I guess I’d roll for Fangyi anyways

[rich linden]

i just need zhuang and my life is complete

[icy remnant]

I need my pink haired QiLin

[rich linden]

pulled gilberta coping shes a good sup for her

[chilly bolt]

That's good actually, mifu and fangyi back to back is hell💀

[icy remnant]

I mean they could make Li Zhiyan first then Fangyi
Then Mifu next patch
If we want to be evil

[drifting quest]

more reason to assume mifu 1.2 fangyi 1.3 than anything

probably liz 1.2, male 1.3

[lyric latch]

thats the hill I am on right now. even though I wish for Mi Fu first since I already have the funds ready. otherwise 1.2 will be just saving patch for me

[icy remnant]

I want Mifu first too

But if Fangyi comes first I’ll still roll

I’m already at 51 pity cus I skipped 5 banners in a row

Can’t wait any longer

[drifting quest]

its not impossible for it, or even fangyi mifu same patch

all we have to go off is speculative evidence anyway

things like the teaser, other gacha, hg precedence

[icy remnant]

If it’s same patch it would honestly be ideal for me

[lyric latch]

same patch will be the best scenario for me too

[vapid flame]

true endgame is feelscrafting operator release order

[icy remnant]

Need to math out how many rolls this is but p sure I can pity both

Doubt they will be together in the same patch though

[rich linden]

280 ish

[icy remnant]

Actually it’s 336

[midnight stirrup]

52x 10 pull

[rich linden]

oh i didnt count the origeo

cus thats bp mats

but maybe higher with return pulls 👀

[midnight stirrup]

jk

[icy remnant]

Only 2k oro worth is BP mat

[midnight stirrup]

33 10 pulls so 330

[drifting quest]

im getting nothing in 1.2 unless i sack 1st banner in the free 10

120 x 3 is just not it

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah fuck 1.2 banners

unless they suddenly drop ardashir

[drifting quest]

if the units are anything like rossi it's my time to drop out from endfield tc

[icy remnant]

What even does anything like Rossi mean

Means has good numbers?

[midnight stirrup]

a headache to tc

bc of how much nuance there is to her

[icy remnant]

Signs of good design though

Way better than just number creep

[midnight stirrup]

Thats besides the point

[rich linden]

fr

[lyric latch]

slop guides giving 200 teams for her to use?

[drifting quest]

rossi is genuinely near impossible to tc for if you dont own her to test in game too

it's not quite as bad now but there's still a lot you'd want to verify personally if doing any timelines or sheets

if 1.2 units have similar sort of kits then im priced out of tc

[icy remnant]

I wonder how useful TCed rotations are if they just keep releasing stages that aren’t just gonna sit there and let you hit

Like having the bull that denies you SP regen

And having heat inflicts

Or just straight up inmobilising your units like the cranes

Good designed stages that discourages rotation style gameplay

[honest hill]

will anyone be left

[icy remnant]

Granted it’s fun to get an on paper good rotation anyways

Cus that’s the default

[drifting quest]

the usual cc trio, iana enion

[smoky quarry]

just viberot

[drifting quest]

i dont know beyond that

[smoky quarry]

there's a general pattern to rotations, they don't need to be sec-perfect

[drifting quest]

or well iana was talking about quitting too

[midnight stirrup]

i wasnt aware enion was seriously participating in tc

[smoky quarry]

did HG burned the kitchen?

[drifting quest]

iana just wants actually hard content

[drifting quest]

not to the same degree as others

[midnight stirrup]

Whats GH

[smoky quarry]

idk, searing scars was inflammatory enough

if you are not sweat

[smoky quarry]

publisher/developer/scapegoat (deserved)

[icy remnant]

GryphHyper

[midnight stirrup]

Thought he just knew how to do it but wasnt actively participating in guides

[midnight stirrup]

Its hypergryph g

[smoky quarry]

Right

[midnight stirrup]

[smoky quarry]

It doens't matters though, you know our heroes

[midnight stirrup]

I kept wondering tf u meant

[smoky quarry]

what kind of hard content are we talking about, whale-only like genshin 9-12 abyss stage?

That's not interesting

[drifting quest]

something that isnt cleared in 1rot

[rich linden]

abyss, whale only.. 😭

[vapid flame]

1 rot is longer content, not necessarily harder

[smoky quarry]

Just shorten umbral from 10 minutes to 2, so people can't cheat it by running around with a healer

isn't so easy now huh

[outer ermine]

you'd be surprised how many ppl wouldnt know what to do after 1 rot

[lyric latch]

healthier Triaggelos?

[outer ermine]

or if phase change

[rich linden]

just bought for 40k sold for 200k

[smoky quarry]

you guys strictly follow rotations?

That's speedrun cancer

[chilly bolt]

Literally me

[icy remnant]

Triaggelos except you can’t cheese it by skipping phase

[vapid flame]

harder for endfield probably means tighter execution, which probably means timers..the strats available aren't as flexible as like arknights cc

[smoky quarry]

Triaggelos but it wastes more time being invisible/invincible

[rich linden]

surely we can make it harder w/o making timer shorter

[smoky quarry]

crazy how fucking tower defence has more potential for diversity than arpg in 3d

[drifting quest]

i mean if im talking what I want to see then it'd just be stages like current umbral with maybe 50% more hp

[icy remnant]

The best way for Endfield to go isn’t HP inflation but just stage gimmicks
I disagree with the concept of needing HP sponges and timer slop to be “hard”

[lyric latch]

instead of minions, it spawn Rhoda and Ruan Yi in phase 2

[smoky quarry]

so bullet sponges it is

wish granted, in next umbral you fight two rhodagns with twice more health

[rich linden]

current umbral was p fun tbh

[vapid flame]

yeah mmo route is like survival, unique mechanics..there's some minmaxing of rotations given mechanics constraints

[drifting quest]

Not really bullet sponges

Given the current ones fold so quickly

[icy remnant]

The current Umbral is good

[smoky quarry]

infuriating to me

[rich linden]

still didnt agony clear the boss tho

[icy remnant]

Perfect would be CC stages where you can choose a ridiculous amount of risk if you want

[rich linden]

its not a dps issue for sure i just keep dying cus skill issue

[icy remnant]

But if we’re talking about content people are actually supposed to clear

[rich linden]

not even my controlled operator

my team dies

[smoky quarry]

I think it's called SA

[rich linden]

stygian onslaught

[smoky quarry]

I probably shoudn't abbreviate spiral abyss like that

[rich linden]

close enough

[rich linden]

prob not bahah

[icy remnant]

One thing that will happen if they start bringing super high risk CC in

Resistance shred would pretty much become mandatory

[vapid flame]

yeah they need bigger operator pool to require corrosion or other specific debuffs

[smoky quarry]

another win for gilberta

[icy remnant]

A bigger win for arts intensity Ardelia

[smoky quarry]

can we un-trash fluorite by decreasing her cs cd to 20-25 seconds?

Just like antal and wulfgard

[icy remnant]

Well I don’t think we have enough units yet

[smoky quarry]

even if they add units, they're all six stars

[icy remnant]

Too little variety of units to choose from to play around with risk

[smoky quarry]

We'll get actual variety maybe on 2.0

they should add a pack of 4-5 stars on this update

maybe second standard banner

[vapid flame]

yeah with a wider pool they can actually require some phys vs arts or crowd control

casual players would probably hate that tho

[drifting berry]

More than a pack probably one of each, tho probably it will be only one 5* if anything

[icy remnant]

Would’ve been way easier if they simply introduced one new 5 star per patch

[abstract fractal]

are the originium crystal debuff and clawmark debuff of the same type?

[drifting berry]

It will depend on what we gets on 1.2 and 1.3.

If we don't get any new 4 or 5* on these 2 patches I would not expect any low rarities until 2.0

[vapid flame]

uh for what purpose? they do different things no?

[abstract fractal]

no i meant the physical damage taken%

[drifting quest]

Clawmark and Endmin T2 are both damage taken debuffs yes

[vapid flame]

oh yeah that should be same bucket

[uncut schooner]

Can you give a link to the table, please

[lyric latch]

honestly we could have a game mode that uses turrets and other constructs that can fulfill these requirements for the stages to a certain extend to make them accessible and make the Agony mode turretless or at least much more limited in this regard.

[vapid flame]

oo good idea, I like that

[hollow swan]

does anyone know how the Tide Surge set works exactly? its not super clear under what conditions this can trigger beyond the obvious application of 2 stacks to a single enemy. like what if those stacks get consumed? does it reset the count back to 0? what if there are multiple enemies that you're applying stacks to?

i'd like to think that its activate upon applying 2 stacks to any enemy in an encounter and then gets refreshed by any further stacks applied in that encounter but idk.

[vapid flame]

can test it by looking at the buff icon, id give it a try if my controller didn't break maybe someone already knows tho

[lyric latch]

iirc the translation is a bit deceptive. it activates any time you apply the 2nd stack or higher on the enemy.

[hollow swan]

okay so you don't need to apply 2 total you just need to apply the 2nd or higher stack?

i just tested against multiple targets and it definitely isn't counting total stacks applied

[lyric latch]

yes

[hollow swan]

im trying to decide on a damage set for on field snowshine and the options aren't great

this is what ive landed on for now

ive heard that all skill dmg doesn't apply to basic attacks but i haven't tested it myself. anyone want to weigh in on that?

[drifting quest]

that is correct

only battle skill, combo skill, ultimate

doesnt buff any independent talents, but will buff talents that add onto skills

at least afaik

[hollow swan]

its awkward gearing for characters like snowshine who deal phys with basics and arts with everything else

at least when im using them on field

i feel like a large percentage of her damage will be from basics

[drifting quest]

varies per character, as you'd guess

[edgy crater]

its from bs

but if u bs to much, u stagger the boss n endup losing ur dps lol

[hollow swan]

just looking at mv between her basic and bs they are very similar

like if you total up a full basic sequence

[drifting quest]

In snowshines case most would likely be from basics

[hollow swan]

maybe that starts to change at higher skill ranks im not sure. im just looking at the rank 7 skills i have currently

ya like factoring in the finisher i feel like it is basics

[daring dove]

I mean Sundred Prince plays better with basics for her as well.

I can't think of another weapon that would work better for her if you're trying to make her deal damage.

[hollow swan]

i don't have sundered prince yet 🙁 im just using finishing call. im not sure i want to totally spec out of healing. the main benefit of playing her is the sustain right.

[edgy crater]

exemplar snowshine

[hollow swan]

honestly

it does work

[edgy crater]

or if u really wanna try, khrav snowshine

[drifting quest]

Its a stat stick

[hollow swan]

i just don't want to take it off my Da Pan

[drifting berry]

I mean, for general content it doesn't really matter what you use.

Examplar seems to be the best for damage for her

[hollow swan]

sure i just like to optimize for its own sake

[chilly bolt]

Idk why im getting slightly better result with slab on rossi over radar, im using the tt ros comp, both are non artificed but i dont think artificing would change that, perhaps i really get bad crits consistently

[drifting berry]

Tho unfortunatelly you cannot go neither Aethertech or Swordmancer unlike Ember

[hollow swan]

right the phys sets just don't really work for snowshine

tide surge is fine i guess i just wish the buff lasted longer

[drifting berry]

Mi Security + Sunderer prince Snowshine lmao

assuming you are even able to match the stats

[hollow swan]

lol yo you might be on to something

if i had sundered it might actually be the play

tho if i had sundered id probably put it on my ember before snowshine

[edgy crater]

might as well khrav snowshine

[hollow swan]

no shot im getting khrav any time soon. and if i did i'd pull last rite from my selector and put it on her. im bigly against switching weapons between characters. too inconvenient

[drifting quest]

there's probably an honest argument to mi sec

as miserable as that sounds

stats are probably too bad

[edgy crater]

slapping lr/ember gearset seems better (?)

[hollow swan]

i think in cases where you're on fielding the character and they don't have a really good set option mi sec just kind of works well enough

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah

swordmancer is probably better

correct stats

lets you stagger cheese

basically just ember but worse setup

[hollow swan]

wait yeah is there even a strength will option i don't think there is

[drifting quest]

swordmancer

[edgy crater]

nah its exist

[drifting quest]

some of the tide surge pieces

1.0 yinglung

lynx is like all str will

bar slab

then like

aethertech

[hollow swan]

mi sec does have the armband but thats it

3rd piece would be weak

[edgy crater]

3sm set + redeemer glove lol

all str on its main iirc

[hollow swan]

feels bad not being able to proc the sm addition hit though

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah

nothing will feel good

[hollow swan]

ya its not ideal but i think tide surge works well enough. in the team im playing i think it makes sense. she'll probably proc the bonus.

[frozen tide]

I hit khrav pity 3 times

Im rly not sure if i should go for more khrav pots

[bronze plume]

the way to get the big dmg from tt ult is literally just plunge attack before it ends right?

[honest hill]

U should

[bronze plume]

can ardelia equip it: if yes whale. If no whale for ardelia

0 bias

[honest hill]

So smart

[frozen tide]

why do you think so

[bronze plume]

i mean you defo shouldnt but like

if you like ls that much

[honest hill]

You've already gone too far

[frozen tide]

😭

[bronze plume]

its obviously a bad option to do

[frozen tide]

ngl i fw khrav heavier than rite

[bronze plume]

but at the end of the day if you are fine using arsenal tickets on a weapon banner for a weapon you already have

[frozen tide]

i love khrav

[bronze plume]

i dont think you can love a inanimate object (dont tell reddit mods i said that)

[frozen tide]

ardelia is pixels

[bronze plume]

not when i get my wife to do her cosplays shes not

loopholes people

[teal pawn]

feels like we can replace 1 scope with something ngl

[terse valley]

the slab is calling

[teal pawn]

[warm galleon]

Come join the slab slop

[tropic wharf]

use Yinlung kit and be a crit fisher

[teal pawn]

Remember no matter what the numbers say, the odds of you critting is always 50/50

[warped sinew]

ngl these daily tasks start to annoy me, i cant find last sky pole in this area

[shut cobalt]

does xaihi and tangtang need any energy regen artificing or is it fine to leave it at the normal stat?

[midnight stirrup]

Thats the artificing symbol

So probably just that piece

[shut cobalt]

i c, thanks

[odd wren]

Max ulti damage is 193 yeah?

[signal palm]

two in the center of the park and one next to the xiranite bell that had an aurylene under it

[bronze plume]

tbf

all the bells have a aurylene

[icy remnant]

Next time you can press the scan button and it will lead you to it btw

It’s below you gotta jump down the stairs

[signal palm]

only one of them is in the zone shown in the mission area

[bronze plume]

it was

a joke

[drifting berry]

Dev log is taking to long, getting boring without feelscrafting

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/119sxiIymwbF-eA3JLMWDr1MMA3Cqk7cmlfgpe7gQoBA/edit?usp=drivesdk

[icy remnant]

3 more hours to hopefully the announcement of the announcement

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1462829207385149617/1484766316127588414/content.2e3967fe.png?ex=69c20ee3&is=69c0bd63&hm=02c49dbf29bc065326fe528615b513ed4f77771facb14c9e4cc5fac0354d287d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1111&height=1019

[bronze plume]

deadchat

guys

lets

theorycraft

every single team comp possible for ardelia

0 bias

[gritty olive]

Volcano(Mastery 3)
ATK +130%; Range increases; Attack Interval reduces significantly; Attack becomes randomly shooting lava that can hit at most 6 enemies within range
55initial ,80sp,15s duration

[bronze plume]

Volcanic Echoes (M3)
Attack Range becomes global, and each heal is converted to a 5-heal sequence that prioritizes different targets, each with 60% healing effectiveness and Elemental Injury recovery; the effect of the Second Talent increases to 5 times
40initial, 60sp, 50s duration

While Volcanic Echoes is active, Eyjafjalla the Hvít Aska prioritizes healing friendly units with the following criteria: Lowest HP percentage > Lowest Elemental Injury > Most recently deployed

[open narwhal]

been 10m

ded chat

[bronze plume]

chat is always dead near the end of a patch

glorified team build channel now

[open narwhal]

btw which gear do i use on fluorite dps

[terse valley]

don't

[open narwhal]

do

[teal pawn]

did

[open narwhal]

did pre 1.1

asking for the best tho

[terse valley]

who else can apply slow other than gilb

[open narwhal]

my queen fluorite

[bronze plume]

does slowing them down to the point of not moving count?

[terse valley]

uh idk i was thinking about fluorite passive lol

increased dmg on slowed enemy

wait nvm

[ocean turret]

Xiranite

[drifting berry]

nothing yet

[peak void]

eos confirmed

pack it up guys

[edgy crater]

in 1 hour probably

[elfin smelt]

surely

[icy remnant]

Is the reason you’re always checking an hour early cus of daylight savings

[drifting berry]

Got no idea what daylight savings is lmao

[icy remnant]

They always post stuff after 12pm GMT +8

[drifting berry]

Oh

Didn’t knew

[icy remnant]

You keep checking at 11am

[nova lance]

is this enuf?

[icy remnant]

Yesterdays stuff was also after 12pm

[elfin smelt]

pretty sure that counts both purple and gold right

[icy remnant]

The official comics etc

[drifting berry]

Let’s cope 🙏

Dev log tomorrow, trust

[icy remnant]

Everyday that passes I’m regretting my banner skips abit more

[open narwhal]

i aint got enough coprium

i mean copium

[icy remnant]

Shoulda rolled both Gilberta and TangTang

Part of the reason I skipped TangTang was cus I didn’t have Gilberta

Gilberta is the root

[nova lance]

is this enuf?

[elfin smelt]

looks good

[open narwhal]

lope

farm more

[nova lance]

[nova lance]

how to spend 1500 sanity fast?

[open narwhal]

give them to me

[nova lance]

do i just let these expire

[open narwhal]

lope

give it to me

venmo paypal visa anything

[lyric latch]

goes surprisingly fast if you got solid farming team

[quartz horizon]

Ur using that word wrong

[lyric latch]

any well built Tangtang, Physical Team with Pog&Lifeng or Laev can probably finish farming stages in less than 20s.

[bronze plume]

you can do them in like 10 seconds yeah

[open narwhal]

just lisp

[bronze plume]

i just use all ults and everything dies for all stages

[lyric latch]

always starting with ult ready is godly. farming is so fast now.

[icy remnant]

I don't get the people that say it's hard to spend sanity pots when you can clear a thousand sanity in 10mins

[open narwhal]

t cred protocol is cleared after 10s

[bronze plume]

those are the people who dont know how the combat in the game actually works

they have the rag tag teams cuz they no understand

the others are just people who dont have the time to play

[icy remnant]

I don't think you need to understand to just use 4 ultimates and clear the stage

[bronze plume]

you highly overestimate the brain power of the average gacha player

remember that "gacha players cant read" is a meme within the community

for a very good reason

[sour gazelle]

(proceeds to ake ult then laev ult)

[icy remnant]

Rip no dev log

[open narwhal]

i thought its mosty apply to the h company games

[bronze plume]

no its gachas in general

hoyo just made it big

because well they made gachas big

[lyric latch]

its so over. they are going to announce it 1 day before the patch…

[icy remnant]

Soon I’ll have enough gear components for several generations of operators

[open narwhal]

hg said fack u and process to release another set of component

[bronze plume]

tbf

what else are they going to do for the wuling AIC to give us new stuff to make

cuz if its just new batteries and healing

kinda boring

[icy remnant]

WuLing should only have the last stage left

Better towers maybe

[drifting berry]

was it suppose to be now or later on?

Unrelated to the message I was replying to

[open narwhal]

6 star tower

[terse valley]

cousin

[icy remnant]

Now but no announcement

[drifting berry]

unfortunate, gg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200693481329401956/1283783814899957802/-7b8c69a1e8307a89.gif

[icy remnant]

I’m reinstalling AK

I forgot my old login and password tho

[icy remnant]

Welp I totally forgot my old account

So I uninstalled it again

[delicate mango]

How much critrate does rrossi get?

[ocean turret]

Sike it only lasted for 2 updates because your luck on artificing

[icy remnant]

Is that even possible

That's so much Artificing catalysts

[ocean turret]

Horrendous luck

[warped sorrel]

It look like they will keep releasing better gear

[icy remnant]

Old gear will probably still be needed for Artificing

I don't think new gear is necessarily better though

But yea old gear is the cheapest to make

So you want to use it for Artificing anyways

[sterile moat]

Was a mistake upgrading tangtang basic attack

Now i kill the boss from basic attacks and skills before i even have ult up

[drifting berry]

Consider P0 BP weapon

[sterile moat]

True

Time to use clannibal

[peak void]

no dev log?

[open narwhal]

nope

sleep

[peak void]

cooked

[drifting berry]

Surprise Dev log without announcement tomorrow, trust

[vocal oak]

is dev log supposed to be soon? i dont remember when they did it last time

[drifting berry]

I remmeber someone saying that if schedule was the same it would be sunday

got no idea tho

Worse case scenario we get no dev log and we have to wait for maintenance to start so someone can datamine the 1.2 banners

[icy remnant]

1.2 should be one of the bigger updates

Would be surprising if no dev log

[open narwhal]

how big are we talking

[chilly bolt]

As big as fangyi

[drifting berry]

Mifu's big

[open narwhal]

understandable have a nice day

[outer ermine]

anyone have burst rot for rossi end

[cold bane]

maybe mifu summons chubby lungs

[open narwhal]

i wish

[signal sundial]

Ardelia ult but it's chubby lungs

[bronze plume]

why would 1.2 be a big update for

[edgy crater]

possibly new aic area

[bronze plume]

how does that

make it big

i wanna know wtf they finna do with the aic in wuling

[ocean turret]

This is what buff less ult look like

[outer ermine]

i feel bad for my endmin but ur no dmg rn so

[tawny lagoon]

how is rossi and will she build optimal teams in the future?

[outer ermine]

can opt for 1corr, 4vuln when endmin is more built until then she aint getting shit

[runic harness]

She is very strong and she can pretty much work with any team

[open narwhal]

goof

[tawny lagoon]

is she gonna replace anyone in endmin/lifen/pog/chen team and is she as impactful as Gilberta?

[runic harness]

No they’re two different team comps, and it’s difficult to compare a support with a dps

[sterile moat]

the rossi phys comp is rossi endmin akekuri chen

[tawny lagoon]

hmm, maybe I'll get her offbanner in 1.2

[sterile moat]

she is already the top dps atm with a lot of room for flexibility

[runic harness]

That’s what I said for yvonne

[tawny lagoon]

didnt know that, wow

[runic harness]

200~ pulls later

Still none

😞 😞

[tawny lagoon]

I expect Fangyi to be the best dps once she's out

[sterile moat]

you can try your luck because rossi slots in as sub dps as well

[ocean turret]

[sterile moat]

since she 4 stacks vul for gilberta

in the end it can still be abused together with fangyi

[tawny lagoon]

thought she was just good, not the best dps lol

[sterile moat]

the margin is so wide that its hilarious, over 20% better than next best comp

and the way she slots into any comp due to how she works with gilberta

[tawny lagoon]

genuinely impressive, but the state of the game doesn't warrant that, unfortunately

I have nothing to do in the game

[sterile moat]

all speed run records is held by rossi atm also

[runic harness]

What would be the next best comp

LR or lava?

[sterile moat]

supposedly avy in 0 ult start content

3rd is lr

[runic harness]

Oh didn’t know avy was that strong

[sterile moat]

depends if you count variants of rossi gil perl combos as different teams or not

if not she will hold the top few places

[tawny lagoon]

do you think the devs are fully aware of this? not just intended to make her stronger, but the scope of their awareness

[exotic crypt]

yes, the developers want you to open your wallet for the limited characters

[sterile moat]

doesnt matter since all relevant content rewards will be made to be clearable by f2p units

[tawny lagoon]

I'd rather have them have difficult content, but have it be permanent, so tryhards can have their cake and eat it too, but f2p and or casuals dont miss out on the rewards, because they can get it in the future

and I want difficulty mode for story because its just too easy if you have established account

I know its not supposed to be hard, but thats the problem

[indigo pine]

difficulty at all would be nice

[dry kindle]

cc

[sterile moat]

the tryhards are already doing stuff like lvl1 weapon runs

[tawny lagoon]

would be enough to have normal for casuals and hard for tryhards, dont even need 3 difficulty modes

[indigo pine]

i was getting a bit bored tbh but with they had a little rossi speedrun contest thing that i spent 30 hrs grinding runs on and it was super fun

[tawny lagoon]

I mean you can essentially make your own difficulty, but it'd be even better if the devs did it

[exotic crypt]

AK design vision from the original game has always been difficulty based on making you think and clearable as f2p if you bother to think/try

meaning the difficulty isnt that high for people who think/copy the thinkers

or you just throw money at it and win like every other game

[indigo pine]

pay to play less

[sterile moat]

ikr

now i kill bosses without hitting my ult...

and i havent even max artificed yet

[bronze plume]

gacha games whole thing have been how much money will people throw at a game just to be able to play it less

[tawny lagoon]

I'd actually spend more if they gave me a reason to

would even pay for a difficulty mode lol

[indigo pine]

gachas just have to stray away from difficulty for the most part of it'll be seen as "predatory"

[exotic crypt]

the moment difficulty modes based on how much you spend get added

people will riot

[indigo pine]

even if things will "still technically be clearable by f2ps" they have to cater to casual play

[edgy crater]

extreme raid ba

[indigo pine]

entitlement is a thing

[tawny lagoon]

I agree.
They should just make rewards for difficult stuff permanent or no extra rewards and its just more difficult for enjoyment sake

[frosty crescent]

Hmmm maybe add sth like ranking or cosmetic reward. Anything but progression/more pulls will make it predatory.
Another thing is that endfield money scaling is not as busted as other games, so theres no reason to add a difficulty gated by p2w

After all people asking more difficulty is just loud minority of 1-3% of player base.
From a beneficial standpoint, as seen in dev log theyd rather fix the base game and the basic system

[tawny lagoon]

True

As it stands, I probably won't be fully satisfied by this game

[frosty crescent]

As interviewed recently, they admit an open game that is unique after genshin impact is very hard and too diluted.
They probably saw the future of multiple major gacha game and saw how it would go with a very very predatory system. The fact they chose the route of opting for casual just means they have passion and dont care for the bag.

[exotic crypt]

dont care for the bag

[tawny lagoon]

honeymoon phase for this game was fun, will stick around until at least 1.2

[hoary spruce]

if they opt for implenting difficulty through a system similar to Arknights's Contingency Contract, shoud be fine

[frosty crescent]

Alr there are still certain system they need money for but still we know what a very predatory system can look like

[leaden pewter]

Should I be prioritizing trying to get tang tang weapon or Rossi weapon?

[sterile moat]

tang

[leaden pewter]

Okay thanks! What could I give to Rossi?

[sterile moat]

bp weap

or just pull in subsequent banners

[leaden pewter]

I have the weapon box!

[inland beacon]

depends if who you wanna use as a main dps

but even if you wanna sub dps tang tang's main weapon gives bonus damage to teammates so its better

[open narwhal]

holy, gratulation

[inland beacon]

if you wanna build someone as dps always get their main weapon as the gap between p5 battle pass weapon and a p0 main weapon is too big

[tawny lagoon]

@sterile moat btw, thanks for all the help!

[sterile moat]

[open narwhal]

iirc wedge p5 vs artzy p0 is not that big tho

old calculation even has it surpass the sig

i have artzy p1 tho

but yeah applying to pretty much every dps else

[compact bridge]

Its not too big tbh

Its the average gap between sig and 2nd best option

Too big would be something like khravenger

[pliant python]

am i crazy, why wulfgrad need to upgrade BA as a support?

[open narwhal]

nah

[edgy crater]

1111 n he still work as intended

[cold bane]

How to wait faster for devlog

[open narwhal]

wait faster

[teal pawn]

is that Prydwen

[pliant python]

ya ahahah

[teal pawn]

.leak

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1406921241389961247/artworks-OcZ9DuwfBuSjNSy0-THYYuQ-t500x500.png

[teal pawn]

of course it is

[ocean turret]

Has anyone tried this?

Remove flourite

[lucid flower]

any info on next 5 stars

[runic harness]

As of legal information there is none

[lucid flower]

oh alr ty

[teal pawn]

https://www.redditez.com/r/Endfield/comments/1sc5qgd/rossi_hypercarry_one_shot_rhodagn/

Crit fish

[pure spoke]

exusia alter ost

[daring dove]

Nope I'm pretty confident you're the only person in the world who's tried that team.

[ocean turret]

Im counting on you to make it work

[ripe adder]

no way this mf actually alive and not just HELP bot