theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

Hope you're rich

A lot exist, yes

More common than HC teams, even

[daring dove]

Maxed out Gilberta's essence kind of felt a bit of a waste if I'm honest considering how little I care about Gilberta's damage.

[leaden mantle]

But I assume traditional hc prob provides the most dmg? Or it depends on the team you are making?

[drifting quest]

depends on a lot of factors

there is no 'most damage' in this game

[daring dove]

Rossi & Last Rite are kinda of fighting for the quickest boss clears as I understand it. At least without cheesing the content & only starting your timer from when you start hitting the enemy.

Which for me is a totally bs metric.

[leaden mantle]

Since this game’s team building is more of a sandbox? And you’re free to be creative unless it somewhat functions?

[daring dove]

Rossi's potential is definitely higher than Last Rites though, consider Last Rite has a far closer to optimal team.

[summer flicker]

you can tt mdps, or tt rossi like rn

[drifting quest]

if its on aggro conditions yvonne is first and its not remotely close

if its on load conditions i believe lr is the fastest by a second or two

[daring dove]

For me this is the metric that matters timer starts when you entire the stage. Not when you've done enough pre-casting of skills.

[drifting quest]

its funny best the yvonne runs just

sit and wait for her ult to nearly expire

[daring dove]

Yeah for me that's all just made up, they're still clearing slower than LR, just waiting to start their recording essentially.

[sterile herald]

how’s rossi sword on other characters

[daring dove]

I'd have the world record speed run every time if I could choose when to start my recording.

[sterile herald]

idk what it does

[drifting quest]

its kinda sort of copeable on chen

[sterile herald]

gg

[drifting quest]

if you critfish well enough

its chen's bis

if you do not

then its like the 4th best chen weapon

[sterile herald]

bruh

[edgy crater]

glorious memory good on chen

lupine? yeah nah

[daring dove]

I mean P5 versus P0 stuff sure, I reckon P5 vs P5 it's the best weapon for Chen & really not close.

But it would be kinda silly to go that far.

[edgy crater]

u mean p5 lupine vs p5 gm on chen?

[daring dove]

Yeah

[edgy crater]

[drifting quest]

p5 lupine is that ridiculous on free atk% that it probably wins with average crit luck

genuinely cannot fathom what they were thinking with this weapon

[daring dove]

You could likely alter Chen's build slightly as well to make sure capping the CR buff is quite easy.

I reckon it would be optimal with that weapon.

[drifting quest]

not worth chasing cr even w/

[edgy crater]

u mean mi sec chen?

[daring dove]

Just swapping an off-piece to CR to make sure you're getting the 60% DMG from weapon cap.

[edgy crater]

[daring dove]

People where they do weapon calcs just look at one set gear build.

[edgy crater]

which mi part dat give highest cr?

[daring dove]

They never consider talloring the gear to suit the weapon.

[vivid hamlet]

serious question

artsy p0 vs. wedge p5 on yvonne

[drifting quest]

wedge is a couple % ahead

[daring dove]

I think the off-piece with 13.5%

[edgy crater]

red scope?

[feral heron]

what are best TT alternatives for rossi+gilberta team?

[drifting quest]

any buffer that rossi can use

[daring dove]

All CR off-pieces give the same I believe so you would just use whatever most closely matches her attributes.

[edgy crater]

but u gonna use sm set for chen there

yinglung glove not dat good for her

[daring dove]

What's the SM set giving, it it more valuable that 60-80% more DMG & 13.5% CR.

[edgy crater]

this in my mind

[daring dove]

PHY damage increase is the easy one to drop

For CR.

[edgy crater]

tho probably better on ulti gain chest dthere

already slap red scope tho

[daring dove]

There could be a legitimate argument to putting Chen on full MI set with that weapon to be fair. But that would require a full calc to properly determne. Either way it's kind of an extreme thing to do. Getting the weapon the P5 & artificing an entire gear set for Chen.

Just to make her a bit stronger.

All I am certain about is that weapon at P5 is 100% Chen's BiS.

But that's a lot of investment for something that could be replaced in a few patch cycles for a new Chen BiS.

[edgy crater]

well yeah

i forgot lupine 3rd line also give atk+

[honest hill]

yeah do u have rossi

[edgy crater]

[honest hill]

u do

fake lr main

[edgy crater]

no

[honest hill]

knew it

show proof

[drifting quest]

atk L

like

atk L+ rather

p4 is atkL

p5 is atkL+

[daring dove]

Yeah, I'm just concerned about more weapon's being like this one as it makes them extremely whale heavy.

Even as a massive whale myself I'd occasionally like to not P5 literally everything including the weapon.

[drifting quest]

as long as content is based around p0p0 at worst then its fine

[edgy crater]

should be stay at p0p0 until highrisk cc type

[daring dove]

I personally like it if a game raises DPS requirements & DPS performance by about 25% each year.

Some character growth is healthy, an keeps things fresh.

I don't like it when a character released 1 year earlier is half the character released a year later.

We'll see how thing game plays out but there are a few early warning signs.

For example how much better Tangtang & Rossi are than 1.0 roster, Gilberta excluded to be fair.

That said the 1.0 characters could of just been underdeveloped & not as well thought out as even Gilberta feels clunky as hell compared to Tangtang & Rossi.

[honest hill]

for a lot of gachas 1.x early characters are undercooked most of the time

a year later will be somewhere around 2.x

they will fall off but I don't see how when umbral is so easy

they'd have to add a hard endgame mode to make them fall off

[daring dove]

Yeah, I do think there's already been quite a big jump in general gameplay quality just from 1.0 to 1.1 though. Tangtang & Rossi play & flow so much better than their 1.0 counterparts. But I'm the type of player who values the comfort of a character a lot which can be subjective.

But Rossi + Tangtang feel a lot easier to play to be honest.

[bronze plume]

personally

[honest hill]

for me it's who can clear or not I mean there's no way a team takes 10m to clear umbral

[bronze plume]

ardelia feels comfortable to play cuz i get to look at ardelia

0 bias btw

[honest hill]

it's not like other gacha that have 2-3m timer

for charcters to fall off

[bronze plume]

we get 10 whole minutes in this land

[daring dove]

Only characters I'm confident will still be around in 6 months time rn are Tangtang & Gilberta, maybe Ardelia in some more niche situations when you can afford to SP to set up her shred.

[midnight stirrup]

It´s wild to me that you think Rossi wont

[daring dove]

You'd have to replace the entire Cryo team before Tangtang gets dropped.

I didn't say she wouldn't just that I'm not confident she won't.

[midnight stirrup]

What

[daring dove]

At the end of the day Rossi lives & dies by her damage. Yeah she's hyper flexible which is a big positive.

But we could see damage move on a lot in the next 6 months.

RN Rossi is like top 3 character for me, I can't decide if she's better or worse than Gilberta.

Tangtang is clearly number 1 in an entire tier of her own.

[midnight stirrup]

I disagree

I think top 3 has Perlica for sure

Maybe Gilberta

and then like

I need to think about the third

[drifting quest]

ranking characters is arbitrary and always going to be wrong

simply the truth

[midnight stirrup]

I dont really care whether someone else thinks its wrong or not

Thats how I feel rn about characters

Everyone calls Rossi flexible, which yeah she is.

But Perlica has pretty much been put in every comp and is extremely SP friendly

Can hold stanza

[daring dove]

People can just make judgements based on what they value. I personally value comfort & front-loaded damage.

[drifting quest]

a tier list is a tier list

[midnight stirrup]

Oh let me not forget

[drifting quest]

i will hate on them forever

[midnight stirrup]

She applies a reaction on combo

by doing a FS

thats pretty

[daring dove]

Speaking of Perlica..... I pinched my Leavatain essence for her since I'm not running Leavatain rn.

Full essenced team now.

[willow karma]

it would be amusing if large story segments of ver 1.2-1.4 will be locked to Endmin + Perlica + Chen

[timber harness]

They're strong enough for everything anyway so it wouldn't matter much

Just would be unnecessary for anything except for immersion i suppose

But you can already just play that team as is

[willow karma]

I don't like that Endim's normal attacks deal less and less damage until final attack

but his shatter is crazy OP

[timber harness]

Story locking immersion wise has its downsides too. In other gacha games i like the mc and have them super super built to just one shot story content, then the devs lock my mc down to dog water gear and stats and i have to pretend the fight is worth spending more than 5 seconds on

[daring dove]

I need to make an active effort to build Chen soon to be honest. I think I should do Lifeng & Pog first though.

[timber harness]

Extremely egregious example is wuthering and the locking of aero rover solo for content... Who is a healer. Yet i built mines to at least be strong enough for damage and they sync it down to trash. So its just a terrible kit + terrible gear forced into a 1v1 boss fight

[exotic crypt]

Stop being poor and get p5 artzy

[quartz horizon]

i should also stop being broke and pull artzy rather than navi

[daring dove]

P0 Artzy calcs worse than P5 Wedge but I think real world Artzy performance would be similar if not better.

Just has a nice an easy activation trigger you don't need to think about.

Most people aren't playing strict rotations all the time, an Artzy just works however you play.

Wedge has rotation requirements.

[outer ermine]

soon

[timber harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861207960972689418/1489337788686930021/1775153862182.jpg?ex=69d00d67&is=69cebbe7&hm=d48f1e9de2ecb3066a97d26efaef3e33a5a657c9a3859a04a6658581b8e67c20&

The hell's going on with that ember ake team

Striker is that you?

[daring dove]

Just run Tangtang so boss can't trigger cutscene-no-jutsu.

[vivid hamlet]

sybau

[timber harness]

Oh yeah shatter potential still exists

[exotic crypt]

gg I can’t bibi gif you here

[honest hill]

do better whel

[daring dove]

Funny thing is people don't realize Tangtang + Rossi is 7 second boss stunlock.

[rapid heron]

have we decided who is good team mate for ROssi and who not yet

i m tired of seeing people throwing Rossi in P5 yvonne team and say it;s a good rossi team

[timber harness]

Gilberta or gimped seems like it from a glance

[rapid heron]

yeah figured

how about Pog?

[timber harness]

The reaction is my answer

[rapid heron]

i think he is bets support if you want to go more physical

for prolong fight

most people just testing using rhodagn atm

so it push the scale to art side

if you take rossie and pog to umbral she dela quite decent DMG with basic

[edgy crater]

tho without a single infliction, rossie just a worse chen in a team

unless u wanna use estelle as her cheap support

[rapid heron]

why not just go perlica?

stanza and still buff her Ult

[edgy crater]

rossie perlica pog endmin?

dats basically 4 bs

[rapid heron]

nope dont have enough SP for 2 consumtion

you either go full pog or full endmin

after i finish witht he video i will post all the rotation here

[drifting quest]

double vuln consumer is just

naturally problematic

as you would guess

esp when they dont assist to stack

[edgy crater]

it is

[drifting quest]

chen gaming is the answer

at least per current tc

[edgy crater]

chen ake run again

[drifting quest]

or lifeng

rossi (vuln consumer) (phys flex) (infliction stacker)

[rapid heron]

you can have these 2 for now

they are for 0 Ult start rotation

[daring dove]

Something I have noticed that's quite a nice tech with Rossi / TangTang / Perlica / Gilberta team, is you actually extent Tangtangs Ult boss stun duration massively. Because as soon as Tangtang's boss stun runs out, you've also triggered the bar far enough to stagger the boss.

[rapid heron]

one thing i found out is you never want to have another sub DPS on the team with her

like CHen

or dapan

[daring dove]

This does a couple of things, it cancels whatever attack the boss was channeling prior to stun.

[rapid heron]

cause they wont have SP to stack their skills and weapon

[drifting quest]

once more I find myself asking why I remain

[daring dove]

An makes your actual stun period around 7-8 seconds.

[rapid heron]

most dapan team or chen i see never have more than 1 stack when burst

so you either spend SP on chen to stack her passive or her weapon

or you lose DMG rotation on rossi

you basicly just tranfer dps from a character to another

tell me a rotation that you can have max stack for dapan full stack crush when rossi have all her buff and clawmark and how long before you can repeat same rotation again

it can work in 1 shot boss but normal rotation in umbral just nope

[daring dove]

I mean I'm literally running Tangtang as a sub DPS on the team with her to massive success. Unless you mean in PHY teams?

[rapid heron]

yes physical

[vivid hamlet]

check and mate

[rapid heron]

and TangTang can fit into any art team casue art susceptibility , and her burst just need 2 whirlpool and ready much faster, her DPS is kinda nut for a sub dps too so she can do a lot of heavy lifting

[daring dove]

It's more her 7 second boss stun I'm making use off, but yeah her damage is nice. I just hate experiencing boss cutscene BS.

[rapid heron]

lifeng basic useless with rossi

for more reliable ttrigger link you need ardelia but with ardelia you need breach or crush but you dont have art infliction

but if you run pog or endmin to reset vulnerbility for link and brign art infliction then you run into SP

[drifting quest]

What

[edgy crater]

lifeng bs -> fs

[drifting quest]

It procs against breached enemies too in pog teams if you for some absurd reason choose not to lifeng bs

[rapid heron]

forgot about the breach part

[drifting quest]

I mean it more easily procs following lifengs own battle skill

[rapid heron]

i guess he can work with pog rossi and art inflictor

but it only procv on 0 stack or up to 2 stacks at pot 1

so you will have to reset it once the physical suscept expired

[drifting quest]

Pog teams can proc it on cooldown after the first one is done via battle skill

Non pog teams can just route around it with no issues

[rapid heron]

yes

route around how? wait 25s without any vulnerbility casting?

that like 10s of rossi no combo buff

so i think only way to use lifeng is with pog or else rotation is just too slow

[drifting quest]

its not any slower than other rots

pog rots are marginally faster

[rapid heron]

you actually tested the team yet? im trying it right now and ieven with pog sitll slow cause you have to wait for SP regen quite often

in umbral

[drifting quest]

no, im going off other tc'ers and videos

you can check bilibili for clear stuff

[daring dove]

Think I'm pretty close to mastering this rotation now. Basically doing it on auto pilot. https://streamable.com/gl1w4e

[rapid heron]

are they all start with Ult and VS rhodagn?

i dont use that as team building measurement

[drifting quest]

no umbral monument speedrun stuff

[rapid heron]

if you can find that lifeng vidoe agian can you ping me pls i dont go bilibili often

[drifting quest]

there's a cn tournament or something going on

so a lot of clears

[daring dove]

Think it's worth crowning Perlica combo & ult now I'm using her a lot?

Kinda funny there’s even a reddit thread raving about this team rn https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/s/AQBcel7IyC

[rapid heron]

huh?

how?

only can proc rossi combo

[daring dove]

I mean Tangtang activates herself & Rossi so it’s technically true but a stupid way of saying it.

[rapid heron]

oh no it;s that Zimen ramen cooker

the one that put ROssi on P5 yvonne + xaihi and call it good team

when Yvonne did 1.2 mil and Rossi did 260k

some of his top pick is questionable

[daring dove]

At the end of the day it’s just some ideas one guy has come up with. The fact that he missed Endmin in every single team is a bit daft.

But there’s too many variations anyway.

[rapid heron]

the biggiest question is on which planet you pick estella

for Yvonne team

[drifting quest]

rossi shatter is a real thing

estella yvonne is a thing for budget

[rapid heron]

isnt snowshine betetr ?

SP return

[drifting quest]

no

[rapid heron]

sustain

[drifting quest]

especially not with rossi

[rapid heron]

andestella if not time correct gonna block rossi combo to break the the shatter?

[quartz horizon]

i've seen the video. the green marks operators who can be replaced, endmin for pan being one of them. he simply doesnt wish to build them

but yeah i agree that its just some ideas

[rapid heron]

it;s mroe than just diea

ideas

he said he etsted them all

tested

so im curious how he actually test them

ember even worth bringing with ROssi? ember deosnt do any DMG if not controlled

[daring dove]

I mean some people have a ton of characters built, so they can test a ton of operators. I mean it’s possible rn to have half the entire cast nearly fully built.

[rapid heron]

i mean he tested in boss rush re crisis or actual rotation in umbral

is shatter even worth going for if you not spec for art intensity?

[vapid flame]

what's the team?

rossi, estelle, alesh, endmin/dapan?

[drifting quest]

normal shatter but with rossi over chen

[vapid flame]

ic

[fast ledge]

Is any1 testing how is the difference gilberta weapon between stanza p5 and her sign p0 ?

[drifting quest]

uge req dependent

[daring dove]

Stanza's buff would be stronger P5 vs P0, but uptime on said buff is likely to be reduced since you ger 44+ more ult gain on sig. Depends how often you want / need to spam your ult honestly. An could also be hard locked by another character in the team anyway.

[sage lynx]

heyy..

how are you everyone??

[quartz horizon]

well other than the fact i have to skip artzy

[midnight stirrup]

God the things id do for the weapon glow on Rossi

It looks so nice

[quartz horizon]

...working a job?

[midnight stirrup]

Alright mr I have to skip Artzy

[honest hill]

He didn't think of that yet

[midnight stirrup]

F2P's pocket watching

[quartz horizon]

education is very important

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest what gear do I put on p5 laev again

[drifting quest]

can go for charge build w/ hw gloves or slab build

[midnight stirrup]

i cant tell if the middle one with hot work gloves or the left

[midnight stirrup]

does it account for gilb with sig

[drifting quest]

left is more uge than you need

you'd replace the body

[midnight stirrup]

[honest hill]

Replace body then change kit to slab

[drifting quest]

slab vs seals build

more ults but less damage
vs
less ults but more damage

[honest hill]

I see

[midnight stirrup]

which is best for me tho

me dumb

i assume slab

[honest hill]

Yeah

Slab

Hot work body + hw glove + 1 hw kit + 1 slab

[midnight stirrup]

Hmm

P5 is more auto focused

so im looking at the right set

whatever ill try that

[honest hill]

Ah yeah it says to max single rotation damage so like speedruns

[drifting quest]

if you want a generic set > seals build

if you want to speedrun > slab

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest i went with this

goodge?

[drifting quest]

you're p5 you clear easily either way

[midnight stirrup]

also which is better here

i have left rn

[drifting quest]

seals for laev

[midnight stirrup]

ic

[drifting quest]

hw is because seals isnt needed for that rossi rot

so you can get damage in again

[honest hill]

@midnight stirrup did u manage to one rot rhodagn yet w rossi

[midnight stirrup]

No im locked behind artificing not being done

[honest hill]

I found this video tho maybe u can do faster rotation this is ginseng on everyone it seems https://youtu.be/c7LdA9tLPnQ?si=i9XxlBv1Klzmtz4N

[midnight stirrup]

Tf is that rotation even

FS > Perl ult > combos > Gilb ult > Rossi combo > TT ult > Rossi combo pre timing > Rossi ult

I mean I can try

Bro imagine if TT ult froze debuffs on the boss

[honest hill]

I mean there's one swap it seems

[torn pilot]

does anybody have a laev rotation timeline i can follow?

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah but shouldnt make too much of a difference overall

What im not getting is why im hittign way lower than my normal rot for that team

[torn pilot]

me and my friend are trying to optimize the line, but as a non-haver of laev, idk what the line even is

so if anybody has laev timeline pls share

[dreamy bramble]

I'm suffering because I don't have gilberta ans I been stress for these past few days who to run rossi with.

[potent hornet]

i have gilberta, don't really use her lol

[midnight stirrup]

Gilberta skippers

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-laugh-mimibarbar-2g6sCTsSoVuSfSxK4W

[honest hill]

What's ur current team

[dreamy bramble]

It's more so I was caught up on other studd so wasn't playing when she was on banner

[dreamy bramble]

Rossi, wulfguard, Akekuri, and Ember

I can't play sustainless so I use ember

[midnight stirrup]

Replace ember with ardelia

[dreamy bramble]

The guide I saw said Adrellia isn't really that good with her

[midnight stirrup]

What guide

[honest hill]

I would use Rossi, wulfgard/tt, ardelia, perlica

[dreamy bramble]

Guide by win to lose gaming. He said she felt weird to play with rossi after one rotation

[honest hill]

you really don't need a sustain

[dreamy bramble]

I do

[honest hill]

Just learn to dodge

[dreamy bramble]

I'm ass at this game

[midnight stirrup]

Oh rossi not laev

[honest hill]

have u considered playing ember physical

Ember lifeng pog Chen i think it is

mb

Not lifeng

Endmin

[dreamy bramble]

I heard pog can also work with rossi which make me happy

[midnight stirrup]

@honest hill best run so far

[ocean turret]

Cause the team u mentioned is made to burst kill the enemy

Ardelia needs a crusher/vuln consumer for extended rotations

If you cant burst within 1 rotation she becomes useless from the rest of the fight

[drifting quest]

take a shot every time someone brings up an iwtl video going against the norm and misinforming

[ocean turret]

If you're gilbless and wanna use ardelia, you have 2 choices:
1.Use pog +1 art stacker.
2. Use ake +1 vuln consumer

That way, you wont suffer from sp

I recommend perlica for electrification on pog team. While dapan on akekuri team.

But people just suck at team building that they only put ops together without thinking about synergy

[drifting quest]

If running a phys setup then 3 phys 1 arts tends to be doing better rn

Rossi (lifeng/chen) (dapan/endmin/pog) (wulf/ake)

Hybrid stuff really wants gilb to branch the gap

Ard works if forcing

But figured I would mention jic

[ocean turret]

You want to use ardelia because of the susc.

That you dont get on gilb since you dont have her

But using ardelia has conditions to make it work. And people ignore those conditions

Just like you dont use pure physical team on rossi because she can use her combo

Burst rossi teams are just clip farming that's why majority of the people here are asking why their rossi dmg suck even if they have the right characters

[drifting quest]

There's mono phys speedrun stuff tbf

Its not like its an entirely dead team

Drops pog for rossi to tinesave

[ocean turret]

I didnt say its dead

I'm just saying each ops have conditions. Just follow them and you will see which one works and which one doesnt

Most people who get affected by clipfarming are people who still havent reached wuling. Because they saw on YouTube or here in discord say you need this team to be good, and when you have it, the gameplay sucks cause the team you chose only work in 1 rotation gameplay

[midnight stirrup]

Im so close

[unborn panther]

P5?

[midnight stirrup]

No

[unborn panther]

Holy dang lol, I really wish I had Gil :(

[midnight stirrup]

Best pull you couldve done in recent banners

But with all the Ardelia glaze, I dont blame u

[unborn panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086673530314832/1471761631607259186/gilberta.gif

[neon cave]

Do Antal and Ardelia's talents proc Chivalric Virtues' effect?

[chilly bolt]

Needs to be healing from skill

So Ardelia maybe

But antal no

[soft tendon]

arde doesnt proc chiv

[chilly bolt]

Oh it's not her skill

[soft tendon]

since her heals come from talent too

[chilly bolt]

Makes sense

[cinder oxide]

What is Gilbocopter even a reference to?

It’s funny but I’d like sources

[chilly bolt]

I dont think it's a reference to a specific meme or something

It's just she can fly and has twin tails

[fringe dirge]

Is Dmg dealt buff and dmg taken debuff the same multiplier?

As in, they are additive with eachother?

Wait they are separate and multiplicative with eachother?

[normal tangle]

dmg taken affects the enemy. dmg dealt affects you

entirely separate mechanics

[fringe dirge]

Yeah but say you deal 100 dmg and have an effect that says you gain 15% damge bonus, and you also have a 15% damage taken debuff applied to the enemy.

If what I'm reading on the wiki here is correct, that's not an additive 30% damage increase, but rather multiplicative 32.25%

But if you tried to stack two sources of dmg bonus, that is indeed additive

[midnight stirrup]

I never realised there was a 4th stanza. Wide screen p2w

[fringe dirge]

The dmg bonus goes in the multiplier group, while the increased damage taken is it's own separate multiplier

[gritty olive]

its multiplicative correct

since theyre in different brackets

you are given 100 paper sheets

damage bonus is you getting a gun to pierce
damage vulnerability is you removing some paper sheets to pierce those easier

[midnight stirrup]

That analogy never made sense to me ngl

[gritty olive]

well we need to create a better analogy

just know vulnerability is a DEBUFF so it might be good later for units that relies on debuff count for damage ( )

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah thats what ive always been explaining it as

Vulnerability is a debuff, damage bonus is a buff

[gritty olive]

its coming soon

soon i mean on mifus banner

[noble tapir]

Mi Fu will be the payoff

[gritty olive]

i just realized i wont be able to properly calculate crit based characters

[neon cave]

you can adjust the dmg with the chara's crit rate to get the average i suppose?

[twilit quail]

yeah tell me about it

lmao

[gritty olive]

i want to actually do one to one damage with playing ingame

but i guess it cant be done

[neon cave]

i did my sheet like dmg with no crit, dmg with crit, average dmg based on crit chance

it cant be helped after all

but at least all the numbers are there lol

[twilit quail]

the expected dmg column is always the evil one

the real answer with this kind of stuff is always

how much do you care

about being precise with your expected dmg

[gritty olive]

what im saying is i cant realistically slap an enemy, and check what i got

[twilit quail]

it's just that being rigorous with it

[gritty olive]

then compare it to the values

[twilit quail]

is way more effort than it is worth

[gritty olive]

unlike what i did with lavating

[neon cave]

did you record every single number the appeared in game and matched it with your dmg calcs?

[gritty olive]

at least for the simple ones yeah

but the other numbers i didnt

i just want to see that my unbuffed N1 to N5s matches my fully artificed gear damage

[dry kindle]

Expected damage cr * cd my beloved

[gritty olive]

you forgot the 1 broski

[dry kindle]

[gritty olive]

cr*cd is just a quick comparison on which ratio is better

[neon cave]

N1 to N5?

[drifting berry]

Does Rossi second talent trigger on her basic attacks?

[neon cave]

no

[gritty olive]

the 1 is omitted since youre comparing 1 + cr1*cd1 vs 1 + cr2*cd2

[gritty olive]

normal attack string 1 to 5

the last being the final strike

[neon cave]

ah

[drifting berry]

But it does on everything else?

[neon cave]

every hit for battle skill (including the wolves), combo skill (including part 2), and ultimate, yes

[drifting berry]

got it, it

[neon cave]

but it doesnt proc on her basic attacks and talent 1

[gritty olive]

anyways back to the drawing board

rossi n5 -> perli cs -> endmin cs ->[rossi n5] -> ake bs -> rossi cscs -> rossi bs -> repeat 2x
ake ult -> perli ult -> rossi ult

very simple or am i missing something

[chilly bolt]

Missing endmin ult

After his cs

[unborn panther]

What is n5?

[gritty olive]

normal five, or her final strike

[unborn panther]

Ah gotcha

[noble tapir]

I get ever closer...

[gritty olive]

if i say n5, its probably evident that its n1 n2 n3 n4 n5

[unborn panther]

Foodless?

[gritty olive]

[noble tapir]

Yeah, I'm trying to do the fast rotation that @edgy elk shared with me

[unborn panther]

Ah yeah the goat Orca lol

[noble tapir]

or I guess shared in general

[gritty olive]

i was said that its ignoreable so i ignored it

is there any energy issue

[unborn panther]

What is your Pot on Yvonne? That damage is nuts

Aka leaving him at a tiny bit of HP

[chilly bolt]

Well ye it's just endmin ult whenever you feel like it

[noble tapir]

p2, got one pulling for tt and one pulling for rossi lol

[chilly bolt]

Preferably before rossi burst tho

For atk buff

[unborn panther]

Nice nice

[sterile moat]

Its doable with a p0 comp

[gritty olive]

ok

so are there any energy issues

[unborn panther]

It is? With or without Gil though

[gritty olive]

would akekuri need aspirant for this to work

[sterile moat]

With

At least from what i tried

[unborn panther]

Ah that makes sense

[chilly bolt]

If you dont have endmin ult you use his bs, which refunds 50sp if it consume crystal

[noble tapir]

I'm pretty sure p0 yvonne can get the kill here

[chilly bolt]

@sterile moat i have a question im running ros ake gil perl i wonder if there's any better option than akekuri, like antal?

[sterile moat]

Antal works as well, i am not sure whats the calc in extended rotation though

[proud vector]

what utility do you want out of the akekuri slot?

[chilly bolt]

Another buffer i guess

It's rossi hyper

[proud vector]

link+thermite does do a lot ngl

[chilly bolt]

To be fair akekuri is already pretty good

[proud vector]

i'm not sure if Antal beats it even with his amp

especially if the stanza holder already exists in perlica

[sterile moat]

Yea but antal has det unit + amp in that comp

[proud vector]

its tricky because applying phys stuff can make antal combo skill wonky i guess

and you need specifically a heat burst

[chilly bolt]

I cant test it now cuz i haven't touched antal and im broke

[proud vector]

when the only heat source is like rossi herself

[outer ermine]

holo

rossi gil per arc

[sterile moat]

Lmao what are you cooking

[proud vector]

bascially Antal has amp but he is otherwise very tricky to use in the comp

[normal tangle]

how do non-laeva teams deal with third agony stage? just abuse level 4 reactions?

[outer ermine]

ur prolly fast enuf for it 0frame arc cs

[dreamy bramble]

I was ping and I don't remembered what it was for.

[proud vector]

any vuln or any non-heat infliction will interfere with antal using detonation unit

currently the only heat application you have is rossi ult itself so

its crap xD

[dreamy bramble]

You mean the team I use? Or the team win to lose uses?

[chilly bolt]

I regret not making weapon exp sooner

Leveling GM to 90 is a pain

[dreamy bramble]

???

[chilly bolt]

What

You dont make have 2 factory making op exp?

[dry kindle]

You don't have 800 purple xp lying around?

L

[dreamy bramble]

No

I still don't understand how this factory stuff works

[chilly bolt]

I currently have 3 90 weapons, GM is at 85 now

So it'll be the 4th

[nimble juniper]

OBJ p5 on Gilb should technically performs the same as her sig on a Rossi + Perlica team right? Both weapon has the same trigger requirement unless i misunderstood arts dmg dealt and heat dmg dealt not being the same. I don't have Gilb sig

[chilly bolt]

Obj or opus if you dont have sig

Opus sucks tho cuz you'll need to change your rot

[nimble juniper]

Fk opus, I guess her sig and obj has the same exact playstyle. As in strictly on a rossi + perlica team. I'm just wondering if the extra arts intensity on OBJ actually helps before i start investing

[icy remnant]

Just got a data download with no announcement

Sus

40mins till 1.2 dev log announcement? Copium

[sterile moat]

How does that even work

[compact bridge]

I have 4 sig at 90, with 300 purple mats left to use

[drifting berry]

Hope 🙏

Finally they announced cloud gaming for endfield

[chilly bolt]

Prolly because i have a bunch of useless 80s lying around

[outer ermine]

her cs is just insanely fast

its a 2corr+det+thermite setup

could frontier for 2 stack frontier but 1 is prolly enuf

gib me like 5 mins and i can be on my phone

i did not mean to arclight cs in that spot but it works eitherway

i prob fucked up but cant review rn

[ocean turret]

Rossi made me lvl up every single character just to test if they can work with her

[quartz horizon]

who doesnt work

[ocean turret]

Im broke i cant lvl up everyone

[outer ermine]

@sterile moat

[ocean turret]

But i wanna lvl up flourite last

Her 40s scares me a bit

[sterile moat]

that looks interesting

what does arclight do again

[outer ermine]

now looking at it, its supposed to be 1 arclight cs

the slowdown fucks up perlica

and it has to be after everything else

give sp

lmao

thermite bot

execution wise its easier than ard gil

just need to be really fast tho

[sterile moat]

interesting

i can give it a try next week when i have artifice up

[outer ermine]

been trying to find where i saw it but its missing smh

[edgy elk]

u missed arc's bs lol

cs canceled bs

so only 1 therm stack

unless im vision issue

[sterile moat]

doesnt help that my thermite is only p0 though

[outer ermine]

not enuf sp

[edgy elk]

wait remind me what arc's here for

frontiers and thermite? or is she on catastrophe or smth

[outer ermine]

just thermite

it was supposed to be 2 cs but it doesnt work well

maybe catastrophe arc

how fast is her bs

[edgy elk]

slow af

like 2 secs?

[outer ermine]

oh yea just checked

nope

fuck that

1 thermite stack

[edgy elk]

u cant do 2therm cus arc needs consume electrify

then ur losing 29%

what's everyone's sets again?

[outer ermine]

stagger gil, catastrophe perlica and nothing on arclight

shes lv1

[edgy elk]

hoooh boy

i MIGHT have an idea but lemme brain on it for a bit

why stagger gil tho

[outer ermine]

go cook

too much dmg lol i need to stagger

[edgy elk]

oh yeah u need stagger gil

what's the rot getting rn?
corro 2
gil ult+vul
perly elec (16%)
arc therm x1
that covers it?

[outer ermine]

and det yea

[edgy elk]

perly det? ok

r u doing rossi bs for 6% suscep (gil ult)? or is there another reason

[sterile moat]

if you are going to speedrun you cant really rossi bs

long ass animation

[edgy elk]

true

[icy remnant]

Wait wth

There’s a leaderboard

Right now in game

For the event

[ocean turret]

What event

[icy remnant]

The washing simulator ☠️
But I won’t be surprised if they’re testing this for some mode

Testing the leaderboard function

[ocean turret]

The whut

[icy remnant]

The washing event has a leaderboard for fastest washer

[edgy crater]

ranked gambling again lmao

most fun event

[icy remnant]

People gonna spam Rhodagn for the 00:00 clear

[ocean turret]

I thought im just not clicking at the right time

[outer ermine]

yea sin

[edgy elk]

ok nah @outer ermine fk my ideas
dont think arc's gonna work, at most u can only trigger 1 stack thermite and frontiers

[outer ermine]

gotta oh case i na min but

theres enuf time, gil cs is the bottleneck

time for rossi bs*

gtg

[edgy elk]

bye lol

i was thinking arc ult but that shit WAYY too long
2 sec animation, 2 sec explosion, another 2 sec for bs
i misremembered thought ult regen sp but it doesnt

cus ult gives free elec stack, so i was thinking steal stack for corro etc etc

too long

[drifting berry]

I tried the GeForce now free trial and it run smooth, then I proceed to pay for the monthly subscription and now is laggy lmao

[edgy crater]

free trial probably on most expensive hardware lol

[drifting berry]

I checked that, it was the same 3060 on both and same resolution and everything

trying again but in browser instead of the launcher

yeah no, the launcher is trash

[drifting berry]

what you mean she's T1.5

[gritty olive]

how muxhenergy gain does ake need to gain ult in a rossi team

[chilly bolt]

Man i hate tt basic moves

She keeps making rhodagn jump up

[outer ermine]

finally free

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

xai's too slow..right

if u xai bs and just dash right away how much sp can u regen? .7?

im tryna think of ppl who can give free buffs on cs and lowk arc seems like the only one 🥀

[outer ermine]

xai time is over

oh and theres prob something interesting in rossi fs but i havent tested it properly yet

[edgy elk]

i cant believe arclight with 1 thermite stack is the speed limit
but i gotta believe
1SP for wolven umbrage, 1.5SP for perly deto

[outer ermine]

fuck i first tried it

and i wasnt recording

[edgy elk]

midair fs?

[drifting berry]

wuwa is a joke

[outer ermine]

yea

no dodge

no swap

but still iframed

lmao

[edgy elk]

iframe how

skill?

[outer ermine]

just fs

[edgy elk]

wait rossi fs has iframe

[outer ermine]

i saw it on my shatter runs since i always fs on edge

[chilly bolt]

What

[edgy elk]

dunno ask hifumi

btw how necessary is clawmark?

[chilly bolt]

What does iframe mean here,

[edgy elk]

im assuming antiknockback

[peak void]

Rhodagn

[chilly bolt]

Ah ye

That lr fs tech

[outer ermine]

the 12s tech along with arc

someone gib me a max account now

[edgy crater]

[edgy elk]

wait so hows ur rossi pots

[edgy crater]

wheres striker

[chilly bolt]

Also i just found that rossi cs2 can miss

[edgy elk]

p5p5?

[chilly bolt]

When fighting marble

[outer ermine]

mines cope

[chilly bolt]

Her bs doesn't miss tho

The wolves chase her

[outer ermine]

rhod side steps it too

[chilly bolt]

I cant tell if cs1 can also miss

[quartz horizon]

1.0 is a joke

[edgy elk]

wait @outer ermine idfk what im on but hear me out-
arc gives 14% atk (therm x1) and 15% atk (frontier) at 0 SP cost
antal on delivery gives 43.4% dmg dealt (lift), 6% suscep (vuln for gil ult), AND you can put gil on arts inten max for corro2 (antal swordmancer instead)

ik dmg dealt is super diluted tho. what's rossi's gears? i'll calc the multiplier groups

[chilly bolt]

What on earth is this cursed gear set up

[edgy elk]

it's gotta be better than csbot arclight doing only one thermite stack, right 🥀

[chilly bolt]

Gil is on stanza?

[edgy elk]

idk how dilution works but 29% atk is also pretty diluted with rossi on MI and gil on stanza

so i think deliv antal MIGHT have a shot of doing more damage

[gritty olive]

What is an er sword for akekuri

[edgy crater]

obj?

or u mean fortmaker

[chilly bolt]

Wdym er sword

[gritty olive]

Ult gaim sword

[edgy crater]

fortmaker then

[gritty olive]

That has will correct

[edgy crater]

nah int

[chilly bolt]

But why...

[edgy crater]

int uge inspiring

[chilly bolt]

What are you cooking

[gritty olive]

Idk perlica endmin kakeuri rossi team

Idk how to get akekuris ult vs a 300 toughness enemy

[cinder oxide]

What u aren’t killing in one?

[outer ermine]

what does antal do

[edgy elk]

cs reapplies the most recently applied physical status or arts infliction

[gritty olive]

I am simmimg a rossi team

[edgy elk]

so if dupe lift then triggers deliv

no sp so u cant use his battleskill (10% suscep)

[cinder oxide]

Hmm then yeah x63 fort is enough

[gritty olive]

Im simming without raizers help

[outer ermine]

oh interesting

3mi and ying kit

[edgy elk]

send pic, i dont wanna look up the numbers

i got my multipliers calculator ready

[gritty olive]

Whos sending what

[edgy elk]

hifumi sending rossi gears

might turn out to be trollge tho

[edgy elk]

oh wow 104.4% and not even max artif

[outer ermine]

its like +1 on both gloves and kit lmao

[edgy elk]

aint looking good for antal lol

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

rip dilution

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

ok i'll run numbers just in case

also btw u hit the speed limit for rossi's clawmark application right? her bs can't get any faster?

can u perfect frame midair fs + rossi bs trigger

[chilly bolt]

I regret maxing the redeemer gloves

[fresh trench]

3 second off

i am crashing out

[outer ermine]

yea i think so but

lemme try spamming after fs and compare

yep

ill get the arclight guy to do it if i can

i dont have enuf artif

my brain died i dont have the rot in muscle memory yet

[edgy elk]

oh i guess ur still capped by gil cs

so the first half of the rot can't get any faster 🥀

[dry kindle]

Smh poor

[edgy elk]

@outer ermine i was actually right
antal/gil gives more than arc/gil

here's the cumulative multipliers

[chilly bolt]

Ok arclight sucks got it

[edgy elk]

if arclight could give 2nd thermite stack it wouldn't even be a competition. but alas🥀

my numbers. factcheck me if u feel like, i mightve skill issued
arc (left) vs antal (right)

[outer ermine]

woc

[edgy elk]

hold up i just had a CRAZY thought

i'm doing more numbers, one sec

[outer ermine]

someone teach me f12 i cannot read tonight

[edgy elk]

nah nvm i was trolling

tentative conclusion: assuming SP works out, delivery antal is marginally better than 1stack thermite arclight

[outer ermine]

prob need cat anal

t

[edgy elk]

nah. we're not even pressing antal bs lol

[prisma venture]

why do all the trees in wuling have a white lower portion

[edgy elk]

in china they color the base of trees white. lime to protect against the cold

idk if other asian countries do that but at least ik china does and wuling is based off there

[prisma venture]

such a quick answer

[edgy elk]

start w/ 2.5SP
cat antal -.5
cat perly -.5
rossi -1
perly -1

not enough SP. therefore, lock off antal bs 😭

[outer ermine]

it says it needs focus to cs or sum shit

[edgy elk]

wait wait SHIT

IT NEEDS FOCUS???

i just trolled myself

nvm fk antal

[elfin smelt]

in my place they said it's for protecting against pests and fungal

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

hmm
ok. conclusion: white trees protecc against smth (unspecified)

[dry kindle]

Bruh

[outer ermine]

sp again

[edgy elk]

😭
i only ever saw him in elec and they always apply focus

[dry kindle]

Fuckin gacha players

[prisma venture]

focus, discipline, resolve ...contemplation.

[outer ermine]

he said 13.1 sin not enuf

[edgy elk]

13.1? for what

[outer ermine]

limit

mapped w macro

[edgy elk]

ah

so basically, capped by gil cs and two ults

[outer ermine]

wins a wins ig

[edgy elk]

is there a way to bypass gil cs

doubt it. but im wracking my brain

btw endmin on catastrophe + consuming crystal can't stack sp return. so instead of returning 100 in one bs, it'll return 50 and waste the other thing 🥀

[outer ermine]

maybe team order? gil is 2nd slot rn so she goes b4 arclight i forgor how arclight cs is triggered tho

[edgy elk]

apply or consume electrification

[warped sorrel]

Pog ult can group enemies right?

[sterile moat]

yea i think its team order if triggered at the same time

[edgy elk]

@outer ermine IF you get max pot and artifice, how overkill do u think is ur current rossi rotation?

i figured an idea to get around gil cs casting time but will sacc some damage

[lime bear]

is Hot Work for Laeva better now than the ult gain?

[chilly bolt]

3p Hotwork + slab?

Or you mean the default 3p Hotwork+redeemer

[outer ermine]

i dont have a good sense of my rossi dmg rn

[warped idol]

sub 1m is so hard

Rossi damage is overkill... maybe i should replace 1 kit with more ult gain

[outer ermine]

ill prob try anyway just shoot

[edgy elk]

here's the thing
i tested wrong. catastrophe endmin DOES return almost 100SP
perly cs -> endmin cs -> endmin bs = 1 "free" vuln
idk why it only returns 90ish. but anyway, this'll let us do rossi bs immediately after midair fs

tradeoff is: atk -14% (thermite) and -15% (frontiers)
gain is: +15% (endmin talent) and +6% (gil suscep)

[outer ermine]

or holo, trust hes p5p5 everything soon

oh interesting

hold on its almost reset i havent done my dailies

[edgy elk]

assuming u start at ~250sp
perly cs -> rossi bs (90sp) -> endmin+gil cs -> perly bs (50sp) -> endmin bs (0sp?) -> rossi bs hits, applies clawmark -> ROSSI ULT -> perly bs (100sp) -> gil cs hits -> gil ult

idk how well it'll work tho. i leak a bit of rossi ult without gil's suscep, since gotta delay gil ult to let gil cs hit first

pause lemme compare times... it'll be awkward if this is slower than gil's 2sec cs

[rapid heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGzpl2Yrrdc if anyone intersted in some 0 ult start rotation for Rossi

[edgy elk]

oh fk me.
endmin is faster by 12 milliseconds

gil cs->vul: 168ms
end cs->bs->vuln: 156ms

prolly won't be worth it then 🥀

[outer ermine]

yea this one feels weird

[chilly bolt]

I love when you spend hours thinking of a rotation just to find out someone done it better

[gritty olive]

anyways perlica rossi endmin ake rot

probably takes onemorbillion seconds to gain ult

[edgy elk]

in this vid where u midair strike and rossi bs asap-
rossi lift @ 7.10
gil lift @ 7.93
= no clawmark

unless there's fast+free vuln for rossi before 7.10, speed limit is gil cs 🫠

im calling it here lol. 13.1 sec is good enough
-# another episode of sln failing whel territory rotcrafts

[warped idol]

for 0 ult start builds, should I use frontiers set or ult gain set for Akekuri?

[chilly bolt]

In rossi ?

Or laev team

[warped idol]

Rossi

her ult gain is actually pathetic on frontier set

but idk if her Link will outclass her frontier 3pc effect

[chilly bolt]

I go with frontier when i do 1 ult speedrun stuff

[warped idol]

do you use perlica? If so do you run full arts intensity?

[chilly bolt]

I haven't tried with extended rot to see how much ult gain is needed, as for that i use tangtang rossi instead

[chilly bolt]

Rossi ake gil perl

[warped idol]

what do you use for perlica?

[chilly bolt]

Stanza, 3p pulsar + xiranite gloves

Gil is obj weapon and the usual xiranite

If i had delivery i would use sm on gil

[warped idol]

this is what I got...

[chilly bolt]

What's the investment on rossi

[warped idol]

base Rossi and base Sig, but full investment otherwise

[chilly bolt]

Oh sorry i mean what pot?

[warped idol]

yeah base Rossi and base Sig

pot 0

[chilly bolt]

And you're running radar? with or without food?

[warped idol]

if I had more sp I couldve done a higher level of corrosion for more dmg

[warped idol]

no food

im too lazy to craft food anyyway

[warped idol]

what's radar?

[chilly bolt]

Yinglung radar

[warped idol]

let me check

im pretty sure Im running the usual crit set with the offset being the red yilung that gives ult dmg

[gritty olive]

How many er does akekuri need

Ult gain

[chilly bolt]

Actually that looks about right, i got 90% on ruan yi with p5 GM and p0 rossi,

[gritty olive]

6bsm+ one combo needs 220 ish ultgain to gain one ult. Maybe theres better ways idk

[chilly bolt]

@warped idol can you try the same rot on rhodagn

[warped idol]

there's a reason why I chose Ruan Yi

Rhodagn just phase change in the middle of Rossi ult

it's impossible for me

oh and im running ult gain + arts intensity on Gil

perlica is full arts intensity

[chilly bolt]

This is my attempt
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1461541760801968128/1489226919554580660/Rossi_hyper.mp4?ex=69d04ee6&is=69cefd66&hm=6439a9757b282bbfd719613985f6822ac9d949086aa2a0fbc9c21ff9c5b9de01&

[warped idol]

why do your Rossi do so little dmg?

my Rossi does a lot with her combo skill and skill

at 3 stacks of arts she does 100k dmg with combo skill

for some reason

[chilly bolt]

Im using GM, and lvl1 basic

[outer ermine]

oh yea thats a brainfart on that vid, theres a specific sequence for all of it

[warped idol]

yeah my problem is I do too much dmg

[terse valley]

bro give her some levels im crine

[warped idol]

rhodagn is always at ~70% hp whenver I start the nuke

so he just phases in the middle of the ult

[outer ermine]

its like
perlica cs, hits
then
perlica rossi bs, gil cs
its basically in turns

then before gil cs hits, perlica bs again and everything else

[chilly bolt]

Im so broke

[warped idol]

marble nuke

[ocean turret]

Thoughts

I saw someone do 1:16

[terse valley]

huh what is this

[ocean turret]

Fastest cleaner in wuling

[terse valley]

oh

[warped idol]

you should really

this is with only 1 stack ofa rts inflict

[terse valley]

that scared me for a sec i was like we got leaderboards?

[warped idol]

this is only lv9, no masteries yet

[dire fractal]

holy, ok i gotta get to work then

[chilly bolt]

Ye i got around 90% of this dmg

But im not gonna test on marble again

Fuck that shit

[warped idol]

just get through phase 1 wihtout using ults

a tentacle should be dead by the time it has 4 vul

[chilly bolt]

Again i use GM

Rossi does no dmg outside of ult

It also changes rotation a bit

Since i need to do cs>bs>cs for 3 GM stacks

[warped idol]

I dont think that is 90%

[warped idol]

level your skills

staggered Rhodagn takes more dmg too while Ruan Yi isnt staggered

idk if Ruan Yi takes more damage normally in first phase tho

[chilly bolt]

I was comparing the boss hp bar

[warped idol]

yeah that makes sense then

Rossi ult is just really overkill

[gritty olive]

can someone shed light on how phys works

whats the parallel for elemental infliction

[peak void]

vuln?

[warped idol]

lift + knock down is Art Burst

Breach + Crush is Art Reaction

[peak void]

i guess that works

[warped idol]

arts (except Solidification) is dmg while phys is crowd control

[edgy elk]

@outer ermine this is insane
im just tryna see if we can rossi bs earlier if end applies a vuln faster than gil.

if team order is perl/gil/end, endmin applies faster
if team order is perl/end/gil, gil applies faster
wth 🥀 i'm outta here this shit makes no sense

edit: was explained to me. oh god this is impossible 🫠 you're sticking w arclight ig

[gritty olive]

what would endmin do in a rossi team then

[warped idol]

endmin takes advantage of all the phys stacks

[warped sorrel]

i heard they will change gacha next patch
is it misinfo or april fool or hallucinations
i ask here becuase i trust you guys

[warped idol]

also buffs damage with her potentials and combo skill

[warped idol]

nothings official dont get your hopes up

[warped sorrel]

so it just in the winds

[warped idol]

yes, and very unlikely

[warped sorrel]

i will bet on hallucination then

[warped idol]

would be great if it's true but it's 95% not

[gritty olive]

yeah ill probably need help

i can only simulate

[warped idol]

[gritty olive]

but i havent properly played endfield like sweaty

[warped idol]

basically just press endmin's skill whenever you have 4 physical stacks

you can also time endmin's combo too but it's nothing big if you dont want to

[pure spoke]

Are there gachas where they changed the gacha? I didnt play that many

[gritty olive]

arknights?

[warped idol]

they did?

[pure spoke]

Lol you are right

[gritty olive]

they didnt change the base stuff there

[chilly bolt]

What did they change

They just add more qol

[pure spoke]

Added the 150 pity

[gritty olive]

the 6* past 150 pulls will be the rate-up

[pure spoke]

The 150 scam

[gritty olive]

so like if you got a 6* on the 149th pull, the next 6* is the rate-up

[pure spoke]

And the scam banner kernel

[warped idol]

problem is there is almost always like 2 rate ups

[gritty olive]

fundametally arknights is still arknights

[warped idol]

so it's still a 50/50

[gritty olive]

not everything is limited banner

[chilly bolt]

Kernel is basically the same as standard banner in here

[gritty olive]

chat im sheeting it rn

[warped idol]

I only pull kernel for suzuran

[gritty olive]

[gritty olive]

imagine not having her p5 prior

[warped idol]

[chilly bolt]

That's a lot of rossi fs

[gritty olive]

damn right you are

[warped idol]

well fs is kinda all you do while you wait for combo skills

[chilly bolt]

Also no endmin ult?

[warped idol]

endmin's combo actually gives more atk buff than ult

5% if Im not mistaken

[chilly bolt]

You ult for the buff no?

[gritty olive]

z

[chilly bolt]

Damn p5 suzu

[warped idol]

combo is debuff on enemy already

[pure spoke]

No m3 s2. Bricked

[warped idol]

ult is just like a timer extension

[chilly bolt]

I wonder if the extra amp from combo is better than atk buff if you consume it instead

[warped idol]

now show me her mom

[chilly bolt]

Endmin gives 15% atk if he consumes crystal no?

[warped idol]

nvm