theorycrafting

[midnight stirrup]

Same

Rossi laev yvonne last rite

Well

Technically I got physical and electric too

Shatter

[bronze plume]

i got
laev, rossi, avy, yvonne

[midnight stirrup]

But like

Ew

[bronze plume]

just lvl 90 them all

whats like

[quartz horizon]

how's she overtuned

[midnight stirrup]

I own every char aside from Lifeng which

[bronze plume]

the most amount of useless bs flexing you can do with medals

[midnight stirrup]

I kinda want Lifeng ngl

[bronze plume]

with how much youve spent already

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah I wouldnt say TT is overtuned

[fossil pendant]

lifeng makes phys a lot better it's nice

[bronze plume]

i know it aint like big time whale but damn

[midnight stirrup]

My pulls were very very focused

[bronze plume]

ive gotten everyone besides ember

[midnight stirrup]

I only got Last Rite and Pogs until Rossi banner

[bronze plume]

idk how im winning this fight but i am

ahh

by gilbertas banner i had everyone besides ember

then on rossis i got tt and rossi

[fossil pendant]

the selector they handed out completed my standard 6* collection

[bronze plume]

and another stupid yvonne but shes whatever

[midnight stirrup]

Oh right u could lose to tt on Rossi

Damn

I got scuffed hard

[sterile moat]

Good damage inflictions that refunds sp and applies debuff also

[midnight stirrup]

Fuck ahh ember

[bronze plume]

gang i got rossi, tt and yvonne on rossis banner

[fossil pendant]

I got 2 ardelias on standard, lifeng and ember on laevatain

[bronze plume]

im going

[fossil pendant]

and I just got pog with the ticket

[bronze plume]

to 120 for the next 3 limited

[outer ermine]

whats ur endmin investment btw

[bronze plume]

i shockingly

[sterile moat]

I lost all my 50/50 to tangtang lmao, 5 rossi + 2 tang tang pull

[bronze plume]

just got a ardelia dupe with the selector

[quartz horizon]

respectfully fuck you

[bronze plume]

do you want to know the worst part

[warped sorrel]

I thought april fool is already end

[midnight stirrup]

My first 6 star was Gilb on Laev banner

[odd wren]

Hmmm

[outer ermine]

gear?

guess i gotta p5 gv

[quartz horizon]

can't be as bad as I needing to continuously hit hard pity for both weap and chara

[chilly bolt]

Isnt grand vision is like, the hardest to p5

[fossil pendant]

you dont need p5 gv

it only adds like 150k ish to the crush

[odd wren]

Yup

[fossil pendant]

https://medal.tv/games/arknights-endfield/clips/mmMVDZDqcP38lmbYU?invite=cr-MSxRME8sMjEwOTg5MDQ5&v=24

full p0 unfinished artifice

[odd wren]

But i like to p5 it xd

[fossil pendant]

I didnt even have thermite

[outer ermine]

tyty

[outer ermine]

i can just buy it

[midnight stirrup]

Okay let me lock in

[fossil pendant]

how many purple quota you have bruh

[odd wren]

Purple tokens at its finest

[midnight stirrup]

You can literally buy it on rotation

[fossil pendant]

well it's the hardest to pull

but yeah

[bronze plume]

it was ||pog, yvonne, rossi, pog, tt in 60 pulls total|| WEEWOO WEEWOO GOOD LUCK PULLS SPOILER DONT COMPLAIN IF YOU CLICK (dont ban me skipper)

[fossil pendant]

if only the 99 cent bundle reset

id buy it on cd

[icy remnant]

lol

P5 Endmin weapon for 5 bucks

[outer ermine]

ight cope essence but its a start

[quartz horizon]

happy for ya

[chilly bolt]

It'll be 10 bucks next if that ever happen

[fossil pendant]

even 10 bucks aint bad

considering cheapest arsenal ticket bundle is like $13

and it costs 2480 to buy a copy

[icy remnant]

I wonder how much of a difference is p5 Endmin weapon

[fossil pendant]

36.2% to the crush

rest idc

[icy remnant]

Spicy

[fossil pendant]

maybe nice for some of the farming stages though I think

[honest hill]

what a whel gimme

[fossil pendant]

p0 I barely dont oneshot some of them sometimes

[icy remnant]

Eh? I always one shot em

[fresh trench]

I am extra mad

[icy remnant]

At worst you use LiFeng skill first I guess

LiFeng skill into double combo into crush

Or even final strike once for triple combo

Surely nothing survives it

[fossil pendant]

its the uhhhh

the level 90 mat stages

usually the 2nd enemy

I just chen ult them now tho

[icy remnant]

I’ve never not one shot any fodders

Interesting

[fossil pendant]

endmin skill issue

one day ill finish his artifice

[odd wren]

Why you need it tho?

[icy remnant]

lol

Maybe that’s why

[odd wren]

You building physical or what haha@outer ermine

[outer ermine]

rossi shatter yea

[odd wren]

Isnt rossi arts better?

[outer ermine]

i have tt on that side i wanna play shatter

[odd wren]

Fair hahaha

[cold bane]

has anyone tried this team?

gilbertaless even

[outer ermine]

i was gonna say its cheap but im suffering trying to m1 estella and alesh dps is cooked

[fossil pendant]

ngl I never realized how expensive masteries are until I ran out of free mat boxes earlier this patch

[glacial sable]

Ohhh fun

[fossil pendant]

then I was like oh it takes three days of farming to just do m3

[outer ermine]

alesh m1 bs/ult, m3 cs
looking at iana doc estella has a bit of dmg share so i might m3 cs and m1 ult

[sterile moat]

I wonder what other fun rossi comps are there where there is a lot of stuff going on

Also tfw the perli arde comp is op but its just pure crit fishing since you dont have combo skill of rossi up

[outer ermine]

speedkill rot moment lol

atleast its easy

[sterile moat]

Yea

So temped to pull on arde weap

[bronze plume]

do it

[sterile moat]

I still have the selector to get p1 arde

[bronze plume]

0 bias

[sterile moat]

Was gonna use it on lr but screw lr now lmao

[outer ermine]

https://vxb23.tv/BV123ABzgE7T
pre tt and backstab rule was fun times

[sterile moat]

Lr is truly mineer moment

[outer ermine]

the second i saw the 14s rossi to 13 isabalance flashbacks

[sterile moat]

ikr...

Rossi does nothing but ult

[outer ermine]

wut comp u doing w rossi now

still tt or

[sterile moat]

I might wanna figure out the 0 ult rota and stuff first before trying other stuff

[chilly bolt]

Can you send it again

[outer ermine]

https://vxb23.tv/BV1Rd9LBBEaJ

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373334266041073716/1487514066078662778/1774586064773.gif

[chilly bolt]

not even perl ult

[outer ermine]

ard did so much work there

[bronze plume]

is that sarcasm

[sterile moat]

Yea the ard debuff is just insane

Wouldnt it be stronger if he had det unit perlica as well

[outer ermine]

does it proc

im a monaihe endy too

[chilly bolt]

It's for the stat i believe

Intensity and int

[fossil pendant]

better than stanza even?

sheesh

ig its slower to have to cast ult

[outer ermine]

nah she carried, cuz she eats gils corr and applies corr again during burst

[bronze plume]

hell yeah

ardelia recgonitiosnajdkh

words!

if you want to scam gacha players

[outer ermine]

the amount of sp and time save

[bronze plume]

say its like $25k

that way we can actually get a max pot gang come on now

OOOH THATS WHY EVERYONES A BONEKRUSHER

april fools

[sterile moat]

pretty sure its doable to proc it

let me try

[drifting berry]

Does anyone know what is Wulfgard ult gain requirements if he's at P5? I see 230% something on laevatain's Iana's page but that assumes P0

[drifting quest]

thats for p0 laev

its p0 vs p1 laev uge reqs

for laev team

as in, how much uge wulf needs with p0 laev, vs with p1 laev

[abstract fractal]

what happens to perlica cs electrification if for example i use gil ult then perlica bs?

[chilly bolt]

New elec will overwrite the old one

[abstract fractal]

new one got lower numbers right?

[chilly bolt]

In this case ye, perl cs is lvl2 elec

[outer ermine]

[chilly bolt]

Aleshlover25

[edgy crater]

aleshlover

[dusk isle]

aleshlover25

know your places

[sterile moat]

theres some funky timing where you need to do perli bs > perli cs > then perli bs and arde cs

[outer ermine]

yea too long for speedkill

[outer ermine]

what is that meme

[dusk isle]

there is a guy on instagram that comments gojiralover25 on all gojira related things

[drifting quest]

alesh model is still WRONG

[dusk isle]

im recreating that for alesh in this server

[outer ermine]

[daring dove]

What's better for Perlica in this team P5 Stanza or P5 Deto unit?

[sterile moat]

if you dont need to ult then deto

i guess stanza is more applicable overall

but hmm for extended rota, deto is better

[warped sorrel]

how much do P5P5 cost

[sterile moat]

because you cant get perli up in time for the second cycle

[daring dove]

Depends on luck average about $600

[warped sorrel]

thx

[drifting quest]

if you are not EXACTLY bullying rhodagn as fast as possible then stanza

and even if you are doing that

[sterile moat]

not sure if it changes if you have uge on perlica

[drifting quest]

you dont really use deto in that run anyway

[outer ermine]

oh wow 4s seal to 5 w m3

is that 1s gonna fuck rots up im too broke to get it

ill get it first ig

[fossil pendant]

on endmin combo?

I can't see how it would ever make a rot impossible

just more leeway to detonate it/delay the atk buff slightly

[daring dove]

It's Perlica's E that applies arts burst right, her ult wouldn't?

Deto unit should be better assuming I can keep the buff window

[drifting quest]

you have to skill twice

on perlica

[fossil pendant]

her ult doesn'tn apply anything

and her combo forces electrify not a burst

[daring dove]

Yeah sorry I mean her combo skill

[drifting quest]

200sp every time you want to get deto buff

is lmao

lol even

[daring dove]

Yeah not worth.

The Deto unit buff isn't even much stronger over Stanza.

[outer ermine]

alesh cd is 8s so dont need it really

lots of time

[sterile moat]

ok did it

this is pretty fun

[outer ermine]

[fossil pendant]

hm

ill try that when I get home

my chungus stanza only p2

[outer ermine]

im actually impressed now on how ppl built more than 2 teams

how tf

[honest hill]

Hifumi can u whel for me

[opaque hazel]

💳

[honest hill]

I want to build phys team

but no lifeng

[bronze plume]

you can have mine for a ardelia

[honest hill]

hmm

but

I lose p1 arde

[bronze plume]

but i get p3

thats a W

[outer ermine]

im lucky enuf to not have alot of lifeng ask striker

[honest hill]

no I ask u because ur so rich

fund me Hifumi

[outer ermine]

i cant even e4 este

[honest hill]

what does P3 do

[bronze plume]

hifu cant be rich they dont have nitro

[honest hill]

well Nitro is a scam

[bronze plume]

idk but its closer to p5 then p2

[neat snow]

green names

[honest hill]

wtf

[bronze plume]

silence vermin

[bronze plume]

got that like 12 hours ago

[honest hill]

Rossi giving us free rewards

[bronze plume]

non asia nerd

[honest hill]

I have 61 of those boxes

wait these are 100 sanity ones

[sterile moat]

@outer ermine this is a det unit trigger right?

[daring dove]

Improved the clear time on my favorite team a bit more. I love how consistent the damage is with zero RNG involved almost. Outside of Rossi's missing 7 CR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjYUTnnc5nU

[sterile moat]

very nice clear

[outer ermine]

yea cutting it close

[sterile moat]

the timing is very...

and the weap says effects of the same name cant stack

starry + det dont stack?

[outer ermine]

diff names can check on wp

im getting skill issued w shatter combo order gets mixed if im slow

[drifting berry]

oh got it, ty

[sterile moat]

names meaning the 3rd skill name?

[drifting quest]

Starry Beach is 'Infliction: Tidal Murmurs'
Deto Unit is 'Detonate: Imposing Champion'

full name should be what matters

multiple weapons that are 'infliction' would stack

but two weapons with 'Detonate: Imposing Champion' would not stack even if they were somehow different weapons

[sterile moat]

thanks for the clarification

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-5264665088346427047

[chilly bolt]

the view is crazy

[daring dove]

Yep you see scenes in the game that you would normally never as well which is nice.

[sterile moat]

Dam

Ngl i want that p5 tang....

[chilly bolt]

[outer ermine]

this is prob the first time im playing while looking at cs cd

and i have to look several times

[edgy crater]

getting cutscene skip

[dusk isle]

aleshlover25

[daring dove]

You mean 45

[dusk isle]

why 45

[daring dove]

People do seem to be warming upto him lately though.

Early assumptions for Alesh was he was pretty bad.

[dusk isle]

im copying this guy so it has to be 25

[daring dove]

Still lots of artificing to do on my Rossi anyway.

[sterile moat]

oh you went for crit

[glossy python]

how you can get this type of image?

[sterile moat]

thought you would go for radar or slab

[daring dove]

https://enka.network/ef/6689789703/

Just add your UID

It will only showcase characters in your profile

[chilly bolt]

4p mi sec

[glossy python]

i see, thanks!

[daring dove]

Naw I care about consistency not speed run clears so CR for me.

[chilly bolt]

Why not redeemer hands then?

Not like you artificed the mi hands

[daring dove]

Locks me to 1 build for an extremely minior stat gain.

If I ever need to swap my off-piece to slab or Redeemer seal

I can currently.

[chilly bolt]

Shit you're right

I bricked myself

Fully artificed redeemer

[daring dove]

[drifting quest]

technically not flexible because of off piece gloves builds on phys rossi

smh

[chilly bolt]

Are you referring to 3p yinglung+redeemer gloves

[drifting quest]

no mi sec + like yinglung gloves

is i think the one that ended up being better

per last calcs

there's also 3p yinglung stuff but afaik its not running redeemer gloves

[chilly bolt]

Right dont need ult dmg in phys rossi

[daring dove]

PHY Rossi.

[honest hill]

where this

[daring dove]

https://enka.network/

[honest hill]

ty

[outer ermine]

fun ngl

had to swap to rossi mid chaos cuz i couldnt see when she hit her cs2

[soft tendon]

derp face rossi

[sterile moat]

[dry kindle]

Bleh

[outer ermine]

slaccer

[dry kindle]

Too lazy

[drifting quest]

bro has not been playing the game

[outer ermine]

same

[dry kindle]

[outer ermine]

accidentally got p2 rossi while pulling for mats

[fossil pendant]

i'll excuse the etchspace salvage slack

garbage gamemode

[outer ermine]

p1 doesnt mess w stuff thankfully

[quartz horizon]

is there a p that does mess with things

[high finch]

is this the event that autocompletes itself?

[daring dove]

P5 next

P2 is nice though an extra unconditional 7% CR & 20 Agility certainly help with consistency.

[outer ermine]

i wanna play the game

i do hope i can oneshot w this setup tho

[daring dove]

CR is a lot more important for Rossi than it was for Yvonne, as she can't over-cap on CR nearly as easily.

In fact she can't hit CR cap without seriously hurting her build.

Or using CR buffs.

[cold bane]

maybe next support will buff crit

and suddenly it is time to change gear again

[dry kindle]

If you play the game

[honest hill]

Hifumi u always play the game

[outer ermine]

i miss my dailies yesterday

i was playing like 8hrs

[dry kindle]

🔥

[drifting berry]

Does Rossi's second talent work on her basics, or only damage from he other skills?

[honest hill]

smh

all that time u could've done dailies

[drifting berry]

Has the name implies it takes all day, he only played for 8 hours

[honest hill]

he spent all that time doing last rite runs

that whel don't do anything else

[drifting berry]

imagine using LR

[honest hill]

I use her

[drifting berry]

well you don't need to imagine it I guess

I feel that people build LR exclusively to do 100 Rhodan runs daily

[honest hill]

I mean

you're not wrong

at least for whels like Hifumi

that's all they do

[thorn shore]

tbf it looks really fun

what is rotation for arts only rossi

or wheres the guide with the rotation

[frozen tide]

Rhod and marble

Lr players get to have fun on those 2

And eat shit on everything else

Let them have their fun

[midnight stirrup]

Tbf LR makes anything in the game a breeze at high investment

But people who run P0 wouldnt understand

[honest hill]

my tt clears

[midnight stirrup]

You act like TT isnt part of LR team

[honest hill]

I mean u can mdps tt

it clears

no lr

[quartz horizon]

if my tt was p3 would making a team focusing on her as mdps do better dmg
-# no gilb

[midnight stirrup]

No it doesnt

[honest hill]

the game is easy so it does clear

[midnight stirrup]

I want what your snorting on to think TT mdps clears LR mdps

Oh youre talking about clearing

Yeah duh

[honest hill]

yeah

[midnight stirrup]

Akekuri main dps can clear

[honest hill]

yeah

u get 10m in umbral

[midnight stirrup]

For overal comfort and nuking, LR TT Gilb is a rly nice comp

People underestimate how good LR aoe on bs is with Gilb bs

The whole reason I want P5 Rossi is bc shes nowhere near what my LR does

[honest hill]

ur LR pot is what

[midnight stirrup]

P5P5

Hifumi is my twin

[honest hill]

oh ic

just P5P5 Rossi then

[midnight stirrup]

Can't afford it rn

[honest hill]

[abstract fractal]

Lifeng feels so much better at p1

the difference is crazy

[midnight stirrup]

What

[honest hill]

I expect u to P5P5

[midnight stirrup]

Pay for it then

[honest hill]

Every character

like Hifumi

[midnight stirrup]

Hell no

[honest hill]

nah I'm a peasant

[midnight stirrup]

That's just irresponsible unless u make a shitload of money

I got P5 Laev, Rossi and P2 Gilb

Im satisfied

[honest hill]

[midnight stirrup]

Rossi is my favorite character, so ill end up doing it for her too eventually but like

[honest hill]

but like?

[midnight stirrup]

But like im not trying to p5p5 every character

That's ridiculous

[honest hill]

fair

p5p5 who u like

[midnight stirrup]

I should be safe for the next few patches

Cause I couldnt care less about Zhuang Fangyi and Mifu

Nor the other chick

I only want Ashdahir as of now

[honest hill]

oh

[midnight stirrup]

Crazy to think 1.2 is in a couple of days

[teal pawn]

If only P5 Rossi

I lost my 50/50s in rows despite being earlies

Surely enough income before rerun

[midnight stirrup]

Bro

I wouldve had P5 Rossi if I didnt end up getting P3 Pog, P1 Ember and P7 LR

[honest hill]

Rossi such an easy skip for me

[teal pawn]

P7

[honest hill]

1.2/3 will be so good

[teal pawn]

[honest hill]

[midnight stirrup]

Rossi is the best design theyve dropped so far

Followed by Gilberta

Zhuang Fangyi looks nice but her story made her an easy skip. Unless they convince me otherwise next patch.

[honest hill]

If they convince u u p5p5

[midnight stirrup]

No

[honest hill]

[midnight stirrup]

Id only P0P0

Same as Yvonne and TT

[teal pawn]

Fangyi has a goofy ass leek pants

[midnight stirrup]

I dont mind the pants

She looks nice

Problem I have is how much they forced herself onto Endmin

If they dont give an explanation next patch, that shit feels fabricated af.

[sterile moat]

bullying hill instead

[visual token]

Guys can u trigger gil cs with ake?

[midnight stirrup]

Yes, you need to inflict arts to trigger Gilb cs.

Ake skill inflicts heat.

[visual token]

Oh so ake bs trigger gilb cs?

[midnight stirrup]

Yes.

[visual token]

Aiteee

[honest hill]

maybe she has a 2nd form that has no pants

[midnight stirrup]

I mean she obviously does. We've seen it.

[honest hill]

but who knows

[midnight stirrup]

But I have a feeling it's just gonna be her ult animation.

[honest hill]

will devs put it in her kit

[midnight stirrup]

And not an actual second form with new skills.

[honest hill]

sad

[midnight stirrup]

I'd say its too early for a double kit in one character. But then again, Rossi happened. So we'll see.

[honest hill]

ye it is early

but I hope we get a 2nd form character

like cartethiya from WuWa

[midnight stirrup]

God, I hate Carthethiya.

Was glad Sigrika happened, so I could use Ciacc for her.

[frozen tide]

Highk she was acting like they used to be physically close or smth

[honest hill]

sad

[honest hill]

ngl her animations are mid

[honest hill]

Maybe you know...

[fossil pendant]

endmin kinda hot in the comics

can't blame her

[frozen tide]

Endmin is hot in game

[fossil pendant]

once he loses the mask

[midnight stirrup]

Like I said

If they dont elaborate on that

Zhuang is a dogshit character

[pure spoke]

shu is cooler

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-shu-cooking-gif-18355424297248158766

[drifting quest]

i prefer shuo

[midnight stirrup]

For Rossi I get it

[pure spoke]

but arent you pepe?

[drifting quest]

pfp is pepe

name is from shuo

[midnight stirrup]

She looks up to Endmin in admiration based on the stories she heard about him

[pure spoke]

[drifting quest]

shu was a bit too

common

[pure spoke]

lol

[midnight stirrup]

Shuo

Isnt ur pfp from fucking

Whats the name

[drifting quest]

luckily her brother has a cooler name

its neco arc pepe

[midnight stirrup]

That one type moon novel

[drifting quest]

neco? or neko?

idk

[pure spoke]

there is actually no Shu in this server but more shuo lol

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/arcueid-neco-arc-planet-melty-blood-gif-16116155505917303581

This one

[drifting quest]

same meme not same character

there should be more shus

[pure spoke]

weird

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah I didnt mean same char

Rather same novel

[drifting quest]

some dumbass pinged like 50 shu's a while ago

and i got pinged in it too

[midnight stirrup]

Did he get banned

[pure spoke]

@stiff fjord

[drifting quest]

idk

[dusk isle]

aleshlover25

[pure spoke]

i recognize this name

somehow

[dusk isle]

Im copying gojiralover25 maybe thats where you know it from

[pure spoke]

[midnight stirrup]

Sap

[wanton condor]

Is it pretty safe to artifice this gear for Rossi?

[quartz horizon]

i would say so, yeah- but if u still harbor any doubts u could just do the 3rd stat for now until iana/maygi/anyone else reliable have released their full guide

[midnight stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIq_RNJ2N1Q

[drifting quest]

if you only want to play arts rossi go for it

gear is still up in the air for others

[dry kindle]

Just do it if you're sane

[quartz horizon]

he hasnt recommended a real team without gilberta

[fossil pendant]

did anyone have numbers for chiv and det unit for lr+tt

[quartz horizon]

like for xaihi? det is 1% better

[fossil pendant]

figured

[river scroll]

i guess at the end it's TT for Rossi

unbelievable

[broken shale]

Chen rossi endmin perlica is not a bad team

[wanton condor]

Is this because mono-phys would require all ER? I do want to play Rossi as a carry (or side carry I guess) but I have a distinct lack of Gilberta in my account

[broken shale]

https://youtu.be/1oANIL2XAso?si=GGJ1SyC83vep-2Jh
7:21

[quartz horizon]

i said real

[broken shale]

Anti physical propaganda, be gone

[potent hornet]

it just takes so much to get a phys team to start doing good dmg

[midnight stirrup]

TT is just very versatile

Shes rly good for LR too

Idk about Yvonne

Nobody discusses Yvonne

[edgy crater]

raw damage + brigand being dps n support gun

[drifting quest]

at the very least i have not seen a seal build esque rossi for phys
you might avoid artificing because gear is contested in other teams

[torn pilot]

so how does my rotation become more optimized by having m3 combo skill on tangtang?

[midnight stirrup]

I think you have the wrong idea about what talents do for a rotation

[torn pilot]

shes very good in yvonnes team

fixes basically every problem the team had

[drifting quest]

wouldnt go that far

but very good pairing

[torn pilot]

you can actually stack cryo inflictions efficiently, have real damage when your yvonne ult isnt ready, and just in general makes rotations feel a lot better

[proud vector]

Perlica over Akekuri for phys flavoured Rossi… hmm

Stronger damage boost probably but the SP suffers haha

[torn pilot]

i would
the team went from feeling not real -> plays like one of the best

[drifting quest]

lose lose on 2 art 2 phys too

for inflictions on her combo

ake at least doesnt whiff stacks on rossi ult

but without like exacly wulf your stack efficiency, esp sp wise, is pretty miserable

[torn pilot]

do i just +6 TT or +9

[proud vector]

At this point I think people are giving up on combo skill

[drifting quest]

and then ake is mainly there to buff chen ult which people dont like

[proud vector]

Just doing it for the crit buff

[drifting quest]

because its subdps rossi and for whatever reason people hate the idea of that

[wanton condor]

Nah I rlly like Rossi I want to full max her just wanted to know if the sets brick or not

[proud vector]

Urgh it’s like using a sports car to tow farmers equipment

Works but like

Ouch

[ocean turret]

You cant compare a gilb less rossi vs gil-rossi team

[drifting quest]

why not

[ocean turret]

Duhh. Shes all in one support

[drifting quest]

there are plenty of competent non gilb rossi teams

[ocean turret]

Art bs, vuln cs, susc ult

[drifting quest]

depending on assumptions they are better than gilb teams too

[proud vector]

What’s leading the charge on those

[ocean turret]

In terms of dmg i mean

[drifting quest]

damage what

dps? dpr? dpss?

dpsp

[ocean turret]

I mean over all dmg buffer

[proud vector]

Is it like Chen crush support?

[drifting quest]

what

[ocean turret]

For rossi i mean

[drifting quest]

very long timeline stuff chen pog rossi wulf is like

arguably the best you can do

content just doesnt exist for that really

there's also lifeng pog and lifeng endmin stuff

[proud vector]

Chen Pog

[ocean turret]

Nah theres rossi, ardelia, ake, pog

[midnight stirrup]

Can rossi max out her weap passive with one bs

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah it turns out chen can unbrick phys

chen gaming

[proud vector]

Breach every 20 seconds or skip 10 seconds for single breach every 40?

[drifting quest]

you just breach when it expires

[proud vector]

Oh fck 60s loop

[drifting quest]

there's minmax stuff you can do but it's like roi issues

[proud vector]

aaaAAA

[drifting quest]

its taking ages to sort it all out

as you'd expect

because rossi is super anti sheet

[torn pilot]

what is chens mastery priority order

[proud vector]

Yea, complex rotation

[drifting quest]

ult > combo >= skill >= basic (if fielded)

[proud vector]

Ult>combo>whocaresthatmuch

[ocean turret]

You can even use ardelia, tangtang, pog, rossi. But i prefer ake so that you're not always complaining about the lack of sp

[torn pilot]

ok perfect

[proud vector]

Actually

No, BP sword wants Chen to battle skill like once doesn’t it

For 3 vulns total applied by her personally

[drifting quest]

chen skills a decent amount anyway

with or without gm

[proud vector]

Yea yea ult > combo >= bskill

[peak void]

which arsenal banner should i put some pulls in

[drifting quest]

precharged ult stuff she can get away with skill less because of like lifeng ult applying 2

dapan ult in dapan teams

for monophys

but it can be like 3-5 times in umbral

[peak void]

im thinking TT sig, lifeng sig, or rossi sig (even if i dont have her )

[ocean turret]

I think its better to compare every team using p0 team with p0 weapons. "For F2P people" instead of using maxed rossi and then complain why cant find the perfect team cause you one shot everything

[drifting quest]

most tc assumes p0p0 6*

yes

[proud vector]

The meta would be very different if assume lv80 cap Bahaha

[ocean turret]

Yeah but people showcase p5

Its so annoying

[drifting quest]

4 and 5* assume p5

[proud vector]

The showcase footage from the test server?

[drifting quest]

l90 w/ masteries and max artificing is the default assumption too

[ocean turret]

Nah

[drifting quest]

?

[ocean turret]

Too high. Not max artifice

[drifting quest]

my bad i guess all the sheets are wrong

[proud vector]

[drifting quest]

time to redo the entire communities sheets

[proud vector]

I mean

Wouldn’t hurt honestly to see what no artificing looks like haha

Maybe some of these long timelines cash in

[drifting quest]

you end up with bullshit like the 4* atk gloves

[ocean turret]

Yeah you can just change gears in a min

[drifting quest]

being 'competitive'

it leads to really misleading results

[edgy crater]

not enough ultigain issue then

[drifting quest]

that too

it just brings down the quality

for no actually valid reason

[proud vector]

it’s a better representation of what General players have

But is a worse representation of the limit of the teams themselves

[drifting berry]

General player probably have lvl 6 skills

[ocean turret]

Okay lets split. 1st test for minmax players. Next test is for broke players

[edgy crater]

max artificing still fair

[drifting quest]

why are we catering to people who will not put the bare minimum amount of effort in again

if they dont want to do it they dont have to

[edgy crater]

legit some rot will not exist if u dont get som/all ultigain strip

[drifting quest]

yeah rots would be so ass

i cant think of a single one that doesnt run any uge

everything would be replaced

[proud vector]

minimum investment clear Strats are usually community focused efforts on making sure more people can clear challenging content for rewards

[ocean turret]

Who said u remove that?

[proud vector]

It’s a pretty common thing in other titles

Buuuuut AK:EN has no rewards locked behind challenging content

which is why this kinda died out here

[ocean turret]

It wouldn't hurt using unartificed gear. And usingp0 weapon cause not everyone have your luck/wallet

[peak void]

help

[proud vector]

The idea for a minimum investment clear is that people can follow the general blueprint and simply upgrade past skill issue

[drifting quest]

if you're not guaranteeing a weapon let it expire

[edgy crater]

then u get 75-95% ulti on rot lol

[proud vector]

It’s not useless to optimise for low investment

[drifting quest]

the bp progress is not worth the tickets

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[drifting berry]

Are there any rewards time gated on clear time?

Like Monument has 10 minutes limit and that’s about it

[peak void]

i was actually thinking of putting some in mountain bearer

[edgy crater]

uge artificing like the most noticeable on rot

[ocean turret]

So theres a certain threshold to make her good

[drifting berry]

Even the medals on monuments only requirement is clearing in hard

[drifting quest]

you gain: not even 1 bp level
you lose: 4k arsenal tokens

[proud vector]

^

Horrible trade really

How many clue exchange shops does it take to replenish 4K?

[peak void]

tbf its not like i dont want MB anw

[edgy crater]

then just pull on MB

[drifting quest]

~200

[torn pilot]

this is the right gear to artifice for my active team right?

[drifting quest]

its ONE DAY of dailies worth of BP exp

just have impulse control

[peak void]

clueless

[drifting berry]

Those 2 Stanzas at shop look very tempting

[drifting quest]

they're going to post a screenshot of like 2mb + chiv + some other weapon

and im gonna eat shit

[drifting berry]

Still have Stanza p0 after pulling on 3 weapon banners

[drifting quest]

i bought all but 1 of my stanzas

[torn pilot]

and also is xaihi battle skill m3 worth it? or can i just stick with m3 ult

[peak void]

fuck im doing it

[drifting quest]

if you get nothing im going to laugh at you

every single time

[edgy crater]

+2% at m3, same shit as lifeng

[torn pilot]

that sounds kinda not worth it to me

[drifting berry]

They have lower chance of showing up or something I swear to god

[drifting quest]

gains are gains

[peak void]

nah i got nothing

[drifting quest]

if you're only building one team eventually it's the best thing you can spend sanity on

[edgy crater]

i mean, u still gonna do it

[drifting berry]

Getting Stanza p5 without buying them prob impossible

[torn pilot]

dont i reasonably have more to gain by m3 her basic attack sequence

which. . . also isnt worth it

[drifting quest]

assuming you mean

xaihi

in which case

[torn pilot]

2% amp < 100%+ basic attack sequence

[drifting quest]

you deserve a ? too

[torn pilot]

[torn pilot]

real and true

minmax babyyy

[edgy crater]

eyja farts deal more number than xaihi batk

[torn pilot]

[proud vector]

Xaihi gigastacks her secondary attribute

So she hits like a wet wet noodle noodle

[torn pilot]

noodle

[proud vector]

But she is f a s t

So it has utility

[fossil pendant]

you know this how

what have you been sniffin buddy

[midnight stirrup]

Her farts

[edgy crater]

the less u know, the better

[fossil pendant]

[dry kindle]

0/10 no boc skin

[peak void]

Base gilb is boc ngl

[ocean turret]

Dps pog

[peak void]

bruh

[icy remnant]

I sent so many random people clue 7s today

I maxed out on clues

And 9 of them were clue 7s

[dry kindle]

Nuh uh

[peak void]

yuh uh

[dry kindle]

Nuh uh

[noble tapir]

I'm so close :(

[torn pilot]

what are gilbertas mastery prioritires? she pretty much only needs m1 on ult and then done, right?

[quartz horizon]

yuh

[quartz horizon]

cmon so close! let gilby carry u all the way

[torn pilot]

hell yeah, i like that shes not super intense on investment

[quartz horizon]

too bad I havent gotten her off rate

[noble tapir]

Can't get her anymore :(

[midnight stirrup]

I wonder how good rossi xaihi tt gilb is

[peak void]

Sounds ass brother

[quartz horizon]

just needs perlica

[rare zodiac]

why not just use perlica instead of Xaihi? you know? to buff both and not have to qs and stuff

[midnight stirrup]

P4 det

[rare zodiac]

as if you have the luxury of using sp consuming skill for more than 2 infliction

[midnight stirrup]

I do actually

Xaihi skill is free pre-battle

[rare zodiac]

also how are we CS with Gilb? actual reaction?

[midnight stirrup]

You just cs on tt bs

[rare zodiac]

how? need art reaction?

[midnight stirrup]

I think its arts inflicted

[rare zodiac]

reaction

[midnight stirrup]

Unless im missrembering

[torn pilot]

seems like i just need to m3 her ultimate too?

im almost done etching her weapon

[quartz horizon]

m48

[rare zodiac]

m3 ult it's just for the water fall dmg when dive, not really that strong but if you have spare mat i guess

[torn pilot]

roger that captain

o7

[edgy elk]

Combo skill! Now!

fr tho in some low pot speedruns you need that -1s to get 10% susc fast enough

[torn pilot]

really think its worth it?

i did chens combo skill

. . . but i didnt do her battle skill 😂

[edgy elk]

well tangtang’s only real skill that matters is bs

Ult is baby damage compared to tornados

So IF you have spare resources why not grab -1s of QOL

[fringe dirge]

Is it worth waiting to use Rossi ult until her combo skill goes off cooldown so you can consume the vuln stacks and immediately apply 2 more?

[torn pilot]

on that topic, do you think its worth going back to get chens battle skill at m3?

[fringe dirge]

Why would I ever use Chen battle skill

[torn pilot]

seems not that good

well, up until 2 days ago i wasnt a lifeng haver at all

so i was spamming chen bs

but i guess now it has even less value than it did before

[midnight stirrup]

Brother why are u waiting so long to ult on Rossi

That gilb buff was long gone by then

[torn pilot]

i finally did it @edgy crater

i beat it before phase change and im reaching the peak of my yvonne career

this team actually feels really good to play i gotta admit

[fringe dirge]

Ah yeah you're right, it's not worth waiting for the combo skill cooldown

Is it ever worth stalling to build more stagger so you can do your burst on the stagger

I got swordmancer on endmin trying to line up the team's burst on a stagger

But it might just be wasting more overall time

Now I gotta figure out if I can properly fit both an enhanced Wulfgard battle skill and Rossi ult within a Gilb ult

[midnight stirrup]

Is that p5

[torn pilot]

its p0

[midnight stirrup]

[torn pilot]

i know huh

i was very satisfied myself

[midnight stirrup]

I should remove the dust of my Laev

[torn pilot]

now that i have lifeng, i will soon complete my physical team too

btw, whens the "perfect" time to use gilbertas ult on yvonne team?

to maximize dmg

[rare zodiac]

just leave her there until she have an actual companion and not 3 deadweight reverse wheelchair

[gritty olive]

How good is laev rossi wulf ake

[edgy crater]

2s after ulti iirc

[glass birch]

pretty bad honestly. You're delaying Lae's EBS to get Rossi's CS and you lose out on the suscept debuff from running either Ardelia or Gilberta

[torn pilot]

[glass birch]

As soon as she crouches down. Roughly at the 2s mark

[compact bridge]

Just use it after yvonne change her shooting stance

[torn pilot]

she changes stances twice

but im assuming im meant to use it as she enters her lowest stance

[outer ermine]

out of crowns

[potent hornet]

gonna do that p5 Khrav build?

oh thats estella

not snowshine

[outer ermine]

rossi cs keeps appearing b4 estella

[outer ermine]

[ivory gale]

Hello, does anyone here have a P5 Ember? I need help with some attack bonus calculations

[fringe dirge]

How do I squeeze out more damage on my Alesh?

I'm running frontier set and thermite cutter.
4 vuln stack gilb, xaihi battle and ult

[ivory gale]

@daring dove do you have a P5 Ember and are you available?

[sturdy hill]

im never running out of it

but always running out tcreds

[honest hill]

He's a broke whel

[smoky sinew]

how are we out of crowns twin 🥀

how many characters have you built

[fringe dirge]

How do you even aford to m3 that many skills

[honest hill]

Credit card

He's rich

[peak void]

i NEED TCREDS 🗣️

specifically 460k pls

[sturdy hill]

i need 4m tcreds

[peak void]

what is bro doing

[sturdy hill]

1m tcreds is not enough

in 1 week

[fringe dirge]

I find it weird that sanity coupon is part of the weekly shop refresh

[quartz horizon]

i wonder if i could do this gilb-less and yvonne sign-less

have to put all my trust in tt

[bronze plume]

hello

[outer ermine]

building a 2nd team

lr and her carries, tt, shatter+rossi

not much

and an m9 yvonne that i dont use

[bronze plume]

someone say it back

[timber harness]

Hello

[bronze plume]

W

[timber harness]

I'm only saying it cause i was lurking and seeing you hang looked so pathetic but i didnt feel like laughing i was too tired

[bronze plume]

what the fuck bruh

[willow blade]

for my lr tangtang xaihi perlica team does this work?: control lr, lr combo, ult xaihi perlica, lr combo hits, control tangtang, ult lr tangtang, tangtang plunge when lr is doing final hit

[outer ermine]

just xai lead

[edgy elk]

Make that 3sec if ur sneaking in battleskill before von efs

[edgy elk]

Do an fs with tt and lr each before the ults. U want both to eat xai’s bs amp

[tardy swift]

Which gear set for rossi? I have her weapon.

[willow blade]

ye ik (I not that good at dodging so they prob not at max health rip buff) I am just asking if I can control tangtang when lr ulting

[edgy elk]

Oh yeah sure

But if u rly want max efficiency id control Xai tbh. Tt is usually busy doing animations (cs, bs)

[willow blade]

hm ok

[edgy elk]

Then ofc swap back to LR or TT after the ults finish

Btw @outer ermine idk if you’ll ever do backstab but I found a tt trick that lets u start with a cryo stack for 50sp
Tt bs at the edge of bs range, cancel it so only nado appears, then perfect frame fs when the nado reaches him. before that you’d be outta combat so fast sp regen

if u do it good you can regen 80 sp. literally free stack

[willow blade]

its no xaihi buff if not at max health right?

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

Procs as long as it heals u to max

[outer ermine]

whats ur backstab time rn

[edgy elk]

I did it with vonn
11sec

[willow blade]

OH ok

[outer ermine]

traitor

[willow blade]

time to artifice xaihi for healing

[edgy elk]

#team-build message

[willow blade]

and ig max my det unit's will stat

[edgy elk]

I’m working on LR yinglung cs set 🥀

I made a 9sec backstab but Ithrene stole my rot and did it before I could

p1 lr can’t kill til I max artifice

Im sure I can make my von rot faster if I pre-ult tangtang
But not enough dmg if burst / not enough stagger to keep him from jumping

[outer ermine]

fuck tt ult and dodge the slam

if u have enuf dmg w/o it

[edgy elk]

Unfortunately I need it to stop cutscene

Vonn tt doesn’t do jack shit for stagger

even with Swordmancer Gil 🥀

lmao I burned like 40 catalyst artificing SM gil just for it to not work

(13sec smh)

Should’ve done LR

[sterile moat]

hmm kinda wanna give endmin a try but the sp is probably cooked

[outer ermine]

cyro aint it

u can prob let yvonne ult run just a bit longer and time the stance on jump

[edgy elk]

I hear ur betraying us for Rossi 🥀

[edgy elk]

I barely kill as is
If I had p5 artzy id kill on efs

[timber harness]

How cooked is running rossi in progression for newbies im curious

[outer ermine]

nah im still playing fake cyro

[timber harness]

No aoe and ult reliant

[edgy elk]

literally I had to critfish for an hour for that uptime to kill

Jakub all crit

[outer ermine]

i just e4 3 mfs and im out of crowns

oh right i forgor artzy

wuts ur pot

[edgy elk]

p5p0 lmao

Vonn spooked me twice

[quartz horizon]

just a worse chen

[outer ermine]

do chen instead of ard

high iq comp

wtf

[timber harness]

Chen is in one of the best story prog teams though

[quartz horizon]

yeah. better just run chen

[edgy elk]

Chen endmin clears all content

perly there vibing

[willow blade]

wait are you sure?

[edgy elk]

Tl error

They don’t know what “already” means

[outer ermine]

i wanna try that setup actually no artif yvonne but i should kill

[edgy elk]

I have a 16sec for unbuilt vonn 🥀

My setup just now barely kills at p5p0

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

Wait wait wait u have p5 everything don’t u

[willow blade]

Ya does that not mean ths amp will only proc if your already at max hp and not if it heals you to max?

[outer ermine]

only cryo

[willow blade]

OH i see

[outer ermine]

and lizhi soon

[edgy elk]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-thar-she-blows-gif-10608708578432526042

[outer ermine]

i did do something accidentally but

[willow blade]

Man does this mean I am forced to use the cn text

[outer ermine]

noone will know

[edgy elk]

The true commitment of a speedrunner

[neon cave]

does All Skill DMG affect Basic attack dmg?

[quartz horizon]

this is good to know

[edgy elk]

Nop

[outer ermine]

playing for waifu trust

[edgy elk]

At least I don’t think so^

Check attributes pane. “All skill” just gets added to the separate skill multipliers. If they don’t add batk then it doesn’t affect it

[outer ermine]

just need rossi cs and endmin ult m3

[willow blade]

ya i swap to cn i can see why there was a tl error

[edgy elk]

Cryo traitor
Play Rossi Xai tt gil

[outer ermine]

i did, tt did all the work

i 50% rhod earlier w/o masteries lmao

w shatter

[neon cave]

i just checked it, basic atk deals the same dmg with and without the all skill dmg armor

[warm galleon]

M12 or uninstall

[outer ermine]

no artif

i kinda stopped looking at cs cd too and just lined them up

[edgy elk]

Eh u mean my von rot?

U gotta tang and gil cs earlier or else tang ult and Gil ult will anim cancel their cs

It’s unfortunate.. I do try to group tt and gil cs at least

[outer ermine]

oh on shatter lmao, ill try the yvonne later i aint doing that on mobile

[edgy elk]

Oh lol

Ah figures. Bet ur not gonna do backstab anyway

[outer ermine]

tt took all the fun out from figuring out how to deal w the jump

[edgy elk]

Who’s even in shatter

shatter is fake cryo

It’s the phys main secret agenda to acclimate cryo players to having vuln stacks

[outer ermine]

este alesh 2 cryo

lp mentioned pog too but 1 man on team is enuf

[edgy elk]

allergic to men
mains cryo

Checks out

[willow blade]

yey 2 maxed dps

i feel bad for my lv1 yvoone

[bronze plume]

id make her lvl 0 if i could

and last rite lvl -1

get her outta here

[quartz horizon]

pass em to me

[bronze plume]

you can have the last rite not the yvonnes

[outer ermine]

[bronze plume]

dont do this youll make f2ps think this is actually a good team

damn you failed

money cant be success remember this

but it can buy crazy ass happiness

(yes)

oh the image is gone

[outer ermine]

[bronze plume]

oh yeah weapon shop reset who is it

to nobodys surprise is valiant

[gritty olive]

@zenith widget

[willow blade]

HMMM so did the generally game rotation with the gil ver and perlica ver of lr teams and somehow the perlica did more burst dmg? (the combo starts the same with stacking 4 ice, lr combo, ult xaihi perlica, lr combo hit, ult lr tangtang. for gil i just moved her ult to after lr combo hit)

[river scroll]

i don't think that is possible... on that team, since usually Perlica is full Arts intensity gear there yeah? unless you do some funny and go do Perlica dmg gear on that team

[willow blade]

perlica full arts int

[river scroll]

perlica dmg shouldn't be much there