#theorycrafting

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daring dove
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If so that's great attention to detail.

next helm
daring dove
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Ah they're always purple anyway, so the blade simply matches the attacks.

dawn patrol
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rossi with no gilb about to put a gun to my head

daring dove
dawn patrol
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and it's p5p5 rossi too i['m really gonna do it

daring dove
dawn patrol
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yeah i had to save man

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how do you think i got p5p5 rossi

neat snow
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💀

drifting quest
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you dont need gilb

rich linden
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is clannibal worth buying

drifting quest
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only really for hybrid rossi where its required

drifting quest
dawn patrol
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i need to be hitting numbers yk

drifting quest
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'free' vuln that requires another slot

dawn patrol
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it'll be better than what i have going on still

rich linden
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how about stanza copy

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mines at p1 rn

dawn patrol
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can't hit numbers with this team

drifting quest
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also probably not

rich linden
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bet

fossil pendant
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you'll get them with time as you pull

rich linden
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fan of saving :okayge:

fossil pendant
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especially in the case of 5 star

dawn patrol
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took me almost 60s to kill rhod it's awful

outer ermine
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the button spam lmao

dawn patrol
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literally only a few seconds faster than my leav

outer ermine
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yea this variation is shit

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the things u have to do for it too ICANT fs, swap dodge, wait for tt cs w slow time

summer flicker
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do yall thing tt perlica gilb rossi is a good daily/ overworld farming

drifting quest
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yes

summer flicker
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hmm, is there some weird daily setup with tt rn

honest hill
edgy elk
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Oh hi I’m up
What was it

outer ermine
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its like 15.1xx w pixel perfect play PerliDerp i fucked up at the end and comboed like 3 frames early

outer ermine
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but it cancels the hold

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lol

edgy elk
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Rip

outer ermine
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im trying to figure otu how to do this part better

edgy elk
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Ah yeah

outer ermine
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since rn i start holding ult and pressing cs at the same time

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but i need to like hold ult earlier and time cs b4 it procs

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ICANT how idk

edgy elk
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What’s the difference? Milliseconds?

outer ermine
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theres a supposedly "14s" run btw but theres no timer

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that shit look like 15 but ididnt download and actually tine it

edgy elk
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New tech?

outer ermine
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yea

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same strat, it actually uses xai start

edgy elk
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Oh huh

outer ermine
edgy elk
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How tho they didn’t even group cs or hide cs behind ult

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dolly and tang cs were separate

honest hill
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Hifumi is this the only gacha game u play smh

outer ermine
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og ak but havent been logging in

daring dove
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Starting to get there with my Rossi investment now, wonder if she'll get past 6k ATK fully artifaced I'd imagine so? 108_yaehmm

honest hill
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that's it

edgy elk
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Honestly same I only play ak franchise

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OG AK ain’t whel worthy tho

outer ermine
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i was doing the dodge swap but my lr hates that strat and wont dodge so i just swap dodge which is prob a bit slower

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i timed it like 12.450 fs

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12.833 on kb

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yea i just grab em and leave ICANT fuck pots i play for riic anyway

cold bane
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has anyone managed to make pog + ardelia work with rossi?

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or is it lots of work for little gain?

daring dove
daring dove
cold bane
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stanza in sword form?

daring dove
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Pretty much, been building mine as a result.

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It barely costs the Endmin any personal damage either

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Which is the best part.

abstract fractal
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how significant is Rossi's heat and phys damage taken debuff

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is 12% good enough to replace a support in Laev or physical?

cold bane
honest hill
daring dove
cold bane
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sadly dont have Sig for endmin either...

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stuff i have:

daring dove
# honest hill P5 it

Naw I could but I don't think it's priority rn I'm not even using Endmin yet. Does looks quite cool at P5 though.

honest hill
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all P5P5

outer ermine
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theres a interesting rossi shatter team striker ICANT but ofc it has alesh

neat snow
dusk isle
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aleshlover25

daring dove
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It's still going to take me about a week to finish Rossi artifcing an building Endmin anyway.

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I can wait to see what ends up meta.

drifting quest
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funny enough all 5 rossi archetypes ended up being viable

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even those I personally thought would flop

winged delta
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That's cuz regardless of how weird or shit a kit can be

outer ermine
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omg i got it

winged delta
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When numbers high

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numbers high

terse bridge
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Do we have a website for seein ult breakpoints?

woven drift
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How big is the power gap between a pot0 sig weapon and a pot5 sig weapon?

winged delta
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I agree polyvalency is usually a recipe for disaster

woven drift
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And I swear if someone's answers with "5" again

honest hill
outer ermine
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holyyyyy

fossil pendant
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easy math

outer ermine
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i can cut this .233 i think

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just 2 more maybe

fossil pendant
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uge is the result of that expression

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just convert to percentage

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1.8 = 180% etc

terse bridge
fossil pendant
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oh I'm asleep

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hold on

dusk isle
drifting quest
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you should get 2k + a token which then trades for the 6* weapon shop

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oh wait

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i misread

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misinfo moment

fossil pendant
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ie xaihi has a 72 cost ult with p2, the rot I was working on the other day spends 580 non returned sp and has her triggering 2 combos

72/(0.065*580 + 10*2) = 72/57.7 = 1.248

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124.8% uge

drifting quest
terse bridge
drifting quest
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extra energy talents or additions on skills

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arclight combo giving less sp to her

fossil pendant
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yes there are exceptions, I'm not about to type every single one of them out and if they're calculating an energy breakpoint for a character I'm going to assume they can at least read the kit and figure out if there's an applicable exception

daring dove
high finch
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yeah and also i think i learned in a harsh way after wuwa that if i'm even slightly hesitating in pulling a character that should mean skip. if it's not a hard yes then it's no. Cause my account was filled with characters i never play cause they're boring or i just pulled cause i enjoyed their story or simply gamba addiction kicked it but nothing else seems good to me. So no more falling into baits

frozen tide
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I highk forgot laev had this passive

outer ermine
dusk isle
dusk isle
rich linden
gritty briar
frozen tide
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I've always used last rite but this character feels like a chud

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Bad against weak mobs

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Bad against gimmick strong mobs/bosses

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No sustain or cc

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Tt main dps just feels way smoother

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Probably higher ceiling too

rich linden
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Does ake do drip marketing? I forgor

drifting quest
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no

rich linden
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Sadge

drifting quest
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first we hear is the dev log video

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1.1 we had datamines ahead of time to go off

terse bridge
drifting quest
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1.2+ we do not

rich linden
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Prob next week ig

neon cave
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Does anyone know how rossi's talent 2 dmg works? the description says 24% of her attack, but everytime i proc it, the number is different (even when all buffs are maxed out already, so it shouldnt increase anymore supposedly?)

terse bridge
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Got it, thank you

fossil pendant
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as was mentioned there are exceptions

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but I trust you can read

terse bridge
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Yeah but those can be read

drifting quest
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1.1 one released March 1st, 1.1 itself released March 12th, so 11 days prior

1.2 one should be like this weekend at the same gap

terse bridge
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Yup

dusk isle
woven drift
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I guess no one knows

drifting quest
woven drift
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Time to do personal research on how worthwhile getting pots on sig weapons are

drifting quest
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not very

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the cost is agregious for the gains

woven drift
rich linden
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Very minuscule gains

woven drift
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I asked in here four different times since last night and everyone said the difference is "5"

drifting quest
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gains can be as little as 5-10% and as high as like 50+%

woven drift
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From pot0 to pot5

rich linden
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LOL

drifting quest
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depends per weapon

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but the issue is

woven drift
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Cause they're smartbutts

drifting quest
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it can be like

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$500 for one potential

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and you need 5

half rapids
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and what "worth" means to u

drifting quest
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now having to drop $500 for a single potential isnt super likely, but it's happened to whales here a lot

rich linden
half rapids
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its kinda stupid how big they made the gap between acquiring p0 and p5

woven drift
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So the fact I have laevs sig st pot5 is like, exceptional?

rich linden
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Yes

woven drift
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Because I was rolling one every other pull

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Once I got two

half rapids
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thats just insane luck

rich linden
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Lmao

woven drift
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Welp

rich linden
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Yea thats not normal pls dont expect to get that everytime

half rapids
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wep banner is 25/75 to hit and 8?% for 6*

outer ermine
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let bro hit the 32k for one copy ICANT

rich linden
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Rough

woven drift
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I didn't know the value of Orybels, and since they were so abundant when the game came out (and I never played a gacha before), I used up a ton of them on Laev's banner.

So then I left with a pot2 Laev, with a pot5 sig weapon, and said, "cool nice banner! Next?"

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And then there were no more Orybels

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So I get extremely lucky basically and it affected what I thought was normal

rich linden
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Do not problem

half rapids
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did u not think hmm maybe i should read the banner details

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to see odds etc

neon cave
# drifting quest we'd need more info than this

rossi p0, lvl90
weapon tier3 sword lvl1
gear mi security set

rossi is casting ult while enemy has the razor clawmark
the mi security buff is maxed out i belive based on the buffs on rossi's hp bar

i assume the number of top is her talent 2 while the number on the bottom is the ult dmg

woven drift
rich linden
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My ardelia hits harder

woven drift
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Oh yeah speaking of luck

neon cave
# neon cave

why is talent 2's dmg increasing? shouldnt it be the same number since the description says "24% of rossi's atk"

rich linden
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Maybe her atk changes?

woven drift
# rich linden My ardelia hits harder

I got Ardelia for free like everyone else, then used the free 6 star token to pot her again. I also got her twice on Laev's banner.

Then early this patch I rolled her again.

I've only bought the battle pass and three months of the daily sign in thing up front.

neon cave
# rich linden Maybe her atk changes?

i ran her solo, with no teammates, with im assuming a maxed out buff already for the mi security set, im not sure where else she would get +atk% unless i missed smt in her kit

drifting quest
rich linden
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Cdmg change maybe?

terse bridge
# fossil pendant but I trust you can read

Question on that non returned SP, how exactly does it work. Does it take the energy away after the SP is returned or is it already calculated when the skill is used?
Also, as mentioned on the exception of arclight combo (Which happens to be who I was testing some stuff for), if that return is not tied to a spenditure of SP, does it take away ult energy from the operator?

drifting quest
neon cave
rich linden
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It just doesnt give u any energy on skill cast, you dont lose energy if im not mistaken

neon cave
drifting quest
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only 'real' sp gives energy

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you dont lose energy you just never get it to begin with

rich linden
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Yea

drifting quest
neon cave
drifting quest
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where you only get one value

woven drift
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Anyway, I'm guessing for Akekuri, I should just be focusing on intellect and ult gain?

drifting quest
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int isnt worth chasing too hard

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the gains are minor

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uge is good to chase

neon cave
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the numbers on top are from her talent 2, not her ulti

drifting quest
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i mean i only have your screenshots to go off, a video would be more useful

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but the numbers appear to be singular and just increasing per hit

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as opposed to being replaced by new values each time

neat snow
rich linden
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Likely

woven drift
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Burning wallets like Laevatain burns the past

neat snow
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I need 1 Ardelia and 1 lifeng to p5 the whole roster

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But I got 3 pogs yesterday

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So I hate him now

frozen tide
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Do you have p5 feng

rich linden
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Whos fent

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Nvm

neon cave
neat snow
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I actually got my first double pull yesterday. Rossi and Yvonne at same time but sadly didn't need Yvonne

rich linden
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Aight I have no clue then xdd

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Maybe its based on her vibes

neon cave
neat snow
rich linden
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Spare some change

daring dove
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For me the highlights of good standard banner sigs are likely Ardelia & Lifengs.

neat snow
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Yeah. I'm thinking maybe grand vision first since it can't be pulled for

daring dove
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Pogs is absolutely terrible.

rich linden
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Yes grand vision

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Endmin deserves the best

neat snow
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I p5d Ardelias weapon from the banner already but the other standard sigs I just got one copy of

daring dove
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Except the ones where Endmin is like 80% of the teams damage.

neat snow
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Is that eminent repute?

daring dove
rich linden
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Ah

neat snow
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Okay yeah I have that p5

vivid hamlet
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very tempted to splurge and p5 rossi, really enjoying her playstyle

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theorybros, is it worth it

daring dove
# neat snow Okay yeah I have that p5

I worked it out & the buff weapon gives Endmin more damage stats than Grand Vision at P5. The only thing you lose is about 80 arts intensity. But Endmin's gear gives you about 80 arts intensity anyway. So you start to hit deminishing returns on it.

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So it kind of works out that what's better 80 arts intensity with diminishing returns or 21% ATK for the entire team.

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For me it's an absolute no brainer which one is better when both are P5.

neat snow
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Hmm. I am tempted to do a rossi team

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I have 15k whale coin so I can max any team I need to

drifting quest
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if you've got a link to the math i can give it a look

daring dove
drifting quest
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oh you're assuming full uptime

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thatd be it

teal pawn
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1 more

daring dove
# drifting quest oh you're assuming full uptime

Not really, just that you're getting a lot of PHY DMG & Arts Intensity from Endmin's gear anyway. The extra ATK% is a lot more valuable and less saturated with normal assumptions. An usually (especially with a character like Rossi) you're activating the ATK buffs right when you need them anyway.

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So uptime is rarely an issue.

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There's going to be very few teams where Endmin's buff weapon won't out-perform sig at P5 versus P5 unless it's a team where Endmin can't eat Vuln stacks of course.

drifting quest
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you dont get the buff till late and you drop it before being able to particularly abuse its effect

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you have to route the run around it entirely

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and even then it shouldnt be that far ahead if at all

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factoring in damage% gap, agi gap, AI

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31% attack gained
24 agi, 84 AI and 57% damage% lost

daring dove
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Of course it will be, an you'd be activating the buff at the same time as Rossi's ult for example. If Endmin is only 30-40% of the teams damage, an Rossi is like 50% (I'm not sure of the exact divide). Buff weapon will come out quite far ahead.

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That said we'd have to sheet it to get a definitive.

drifting quest
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ive yet to see rossi calcs because its such a delayed proc to get the value from it

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but at least in prior monophys

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repute was never that competitive

daring dove
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Nobody had it P5 so kind of irrelevant to be honest. It's never been on a banner worth going in on.

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Until now.

drifting quest
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pots get sheeted a lot

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since its so easy to do

daring dove
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From my past experience of a lot of gacha game TC'ing communities 99% of the focus is on P0 stuff.

drifting quest
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most is based around that yeah

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but if you have a calc for p0 you can put p5 values in as well

daring dove
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At P0 buff weapon won't out perform sig, that's pretty much a given.

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At P5 it will compare a lot more favourable.

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Buff weapon scales a lot better with potentials.

fringe dirge
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I ran calculations and compared it to damage numbers in game, and it seems Da Pan's crush damage bonus is independent from standard damage bonuses like physical damage

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Can anyone verify this?

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I only matched the ingame damage when I took the bonus out of the standard multiplier group and made it it's own multiplier

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For this experiment I had arts intensity set to 0 to avoid any weird numbers

daring dove
rapid heron
fringe dirge
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I included the hidden multiplier as well

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And arts intensity was 0

rapid heron
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you think it;s 170+170/stack at max rank?

drifting quest
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i mean just test it with two different damage% values

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then look at the ratio

fringe dirge
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It seems like that 20% crush damage bonus is it's own unsatured bonus, not diluted by other damage% values

rapid heron
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so it;s own multiplier

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?

fringe dirge
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Yeah

rapid heron
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i mena seem abvout right with the wording

fringe dirge
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At least in my testing and calculations

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Idk if anyone else has bothered to test for more sample size

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In practice though, it's like if Da Pan had a 900% crush multiplier

rapid heron
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the bigger question is who lvl up dapan? 🤔

fringe dirge
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Instead of 750%

thorn shore
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holy crap

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i swapped antal in over wulfgard for the final agony stage

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bc wulf lowk useless there

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didnt even realize how much dmg laev ake antal gil does

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nuked the guy insanely fast

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bro didnt even have time to do his 50% hp triple jump bullshit thing

daring dove
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He's been a massive chain on Leavatain's team since day 1.

thorn shore
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i wish we had a better alternative

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but alas

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still need ugly male heat bot for stages that dont handfeed us heat inflics

outer ermine
tardy sail
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How much crit rate will Rossi have

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When maxed

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Atm im at 81.4

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With all buffs up

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Feels like u need p2 to go past 90

drifting berry
glass birch
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+7% from p2 or +11% from ginseng too so pretty consistent

tardy sail
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Yeah what i thought

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So that 7% makes u go to 93.4%

drifting berry
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Joke don't go double check

daring dove
tardy sail
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Yeah

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Meh

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They should really fix that

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It gives me PTSD

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Her second stage battle skills should give 7 crit rate

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That way her ulti last hit is always crit

glass birch
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Can just use the ginseng when applicable to hit 100%

solemn owl
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Wait wrong ping

fringe dirge
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Man I wish there was a strength will version of aethertech pieces with arts intensity

daring dove
bronze plume
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i also wish there was the perfect gear pieces for what i wanted

outer ermine
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but ren

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rn

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lets fucking gooooooooo

edgy crater
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wtf sub 15s

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u still facetank the slam?

outer ermine
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yup

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i couldnt get the ult cs cs for like 15 times in a row but found a visual

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that might be my lowest rn cuz im looking at it and

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ICANT this might be impossilbe to do again chief

edgy crater
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u record the run?

outer ermine
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yea, welp im fucking up now PerliWaaaaa

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wait were doomed theres a better rossi run now ICANT

bold rose
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someone got maths on P5 Stanza vs P0 Sig on Gilb?

outer ermine
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ICANT and its hilarious that its jsut

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14.46 is too far

teal pawn
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Wow P2 Gil only needs 2 stacks huh PerliStare

outer ermine
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ult burst is just ICANT can we delete

daring dove
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That said I'm not using food buffs either.

honest hill
daring dove
# honest hill this u?

I need to try my Detention unit to be honest, with a bit more artificing I can make a stronger version of that team.

honest hill
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so that's u

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not hifumi

daring dove
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I can barely type English late alone Chinese. 091_Run

honest hill
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wait so that is you

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just to confirm

daring dove
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100% not me, I don't do speedrun stuff. A_HuTaoGun

honest hill
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that's why I was confused w the ping

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maybe u can get 12 or 11s idk

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12s

daring dove
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I can give it ago on the weekend, problem is I'm unlikely to max artifice Rossi until next week. But all those weapons in that video I have em P5.

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An the combo is simple as anything.

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Rossi is so easy to play it's unreal.

honest hill
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I might be able to get her off banner

daring dove
# honest hill yeah she don't seem hard

Yeah she's got me interested in nuke comps to be honest. I didn't care too much with Yvonne or Last Rite, something about their playstyles didn't click with me. Rossi's has.

honest hill
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she does seem like the nuke type

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pray I get Lifeng and her in 1.2 if the 1.2 characters interest me

outer ermine
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this is isabalance all over again

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holo PerliWaaaaa

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ill try beating the lr run atleast

bronze plume
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one day will get a dps who doesnt use ult for dps

pure spoke
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Ember

edgy crater
sturdy hill
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gets deleted in 3mins+ by combustion

honest hill
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it's ember

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how

edgy crater
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minos combustion like % based

dry kindle
sturdy hill
pure spoke
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U can solo umbral 3 3 agony with ember tho

sturdy hill
pure spoke
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Dps ember

dry kindle
sturdy hill
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im running hpmaxxing ember

chilly raft
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where is the treatment bonus lmao

sturdy hill
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i don't have sundering PerliFumo

dry kindle
chilly raft
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PerliWheeze bro im farming this for 3 days and just realize its not even there

sturdy hill
chilly raft
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its in other site

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wtf

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lmao

dry kindle
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Local player discovers drop pool is alluvium specific

honest hill
honest hill
sturdy hill
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haven't

honest hill
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wym u haven't

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do u like not dodge at all 😭

pure spoke
sturdy hill
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do

honest hill
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just facetank

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don't care about dodging

pure spoke
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I played full healer ember in the beta tho

sturdy hill
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second stage in agony is absolute burger

pure spoke
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When healing was needed for umbral because everyone was level 60 back then

sturdy hill
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facetanking is the way

pure spoke
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Cant face tank umbral 3 3 tho

edgy crater
honest hill
pure spoke
honest hill
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So I can spam CC

pure spoke
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Is there a video i can watchM

honest hill
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Yeah wait

edgy crater
honest hill
sturdy hill
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i alr have lifeng PerliFumo

pure spoke
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I ve seend a clickbait one with full team chen

honest hill
edgy crater
honest hill
pure spoke
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Thx

honest hill
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This guy is Chen main

pure spoke
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Me too tho

honest hill
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I'm guessing for solo box cutter better idk

pure spoke
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I dont have sundering

honest hill
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Well use BP wep

pure spoke
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I tried gm but i didnt try to only use ult when boss has 0 or 1 stack

honest hill
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Don't bother using ascent

pure spoke
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I gonna try tomorrow

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I soloed it with tang tang was way easier

honest hill
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I mean

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tangtang is ranged so it's much safer

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Chen is not

pure spoke
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Tang tang is touching the boss anyways most of the time because of how her normal attacks work

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So you need to dodge

honest hill
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So Chen is not harder then

gritty olive
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yo guys

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what are teh new weapons introduced this 1.1

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isnt it only the bp gun, tt and rochi sig?

pure spoke
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I would say easier because its more predictable with the range. Tang tang zooms around and is sometimes just inside mobs range

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Like the 2nd wide swing you can just stand behind the boss and not get hit. But tang tang just goes to the hitbox

honest hill
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tang2 can also keep applying solidification but that doesn't do anything

pure spoke
honest hill
drifting berry
gritty olive
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coolsos

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im gonna start simming in a few days time

pure spoke
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Doesnt she just do cryp application?

gritty olive
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trying to sim every team

honest hill
# pure spoke She can?

Well anything + cryo = solidification, boss gives himself fire stack and u apply cryo stack

pure spoke
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Oh i didnt notice that lol

honest hill
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Chen can't do any of that

pure spoke
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Ye. Or ember

honest hill
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Ye

sinful sluice
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I've heard Wulfgard is quite.. uh... subpar, who should I replace him with?

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For Rossi

leaden tartan
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It's more so Clannibal that's not great. Wulfguard is fine. Otherwise Perlica or Akkekuri or Tangtang can fulfill that role in many teams.

gritty olive
#

what is rossi weapon choices

frozen tide
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Sig and bp weap

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Lupine or gm

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Umbral might be copable don't quote me

gritty olive
#

umbral?

terse valley
gritty olive
#

wait this is new

terse valley
#

it's from the current bp

gritty olive
#

yeah

fast ledge
#

Is the difference huge if gilberta use stanza instead of delivery guaranteed?

bronze plume
#

naur

hazy dune
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@hardy dome

warped sorrel
#

1 more stanza and i will be a proud owner of P5 stanza

#

the best arts unit in the game

outer ermine
warm galleon
outer ermine
#

62

warm galleon
#

Banner dupe using ticket from daily login, again like for the 3rd time PerliWheeze

outer ermine
#

ICANT gib me ur luck

warm galleon
#

Yvon last day ticket, tang day 2 ticket, rossi day 3 ticket PerliWheeze

chilly bolt
sterile moat
ocean turret
#

w8 when did rodhagn got reset icon?

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i thought it only happens on umbral?

sterile moat
#

since... the ult reset patch

fossil pendant
#

shit out 1 mil left and right

full hazel
proud vector
#

PerliWaaaaa any updates on Gilbless Rossi teams?

sterile moat
#

basically play phys

proud vector
#

PerliDerp bweh

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Wulf doesn’t cut it huh? Poor guy

teal pawn
#

Wulfraud

drifting berry
#

Question, is there Rossi any team that doesn't rely on stacking as many buff as possible to burst the boss in a short window of time and instead just constant dps? Is it physical or is there any other option?

proud vector
#

Burst rotation should be stable enough no?

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It just takes 40(?)~ seconds to loop

teal pawn
#

Or you can use Pog for breach

fossil pendant
#

physical has a more even damage distribution but if you're playing arts you're basically just there to delete the boss with ult

proud vector
#

Plus Rossi simply applying her DoT and stuff is surprisingly good dmg for little guys

teal pawn
#

Big numbers satisfy my brain

drifting berry
#

Yeah what I mean is something that is not build to one shot the boss.

proud vector
#

PerliDerp Bit hard methinks

drifting berry
#

Like Gil+Perlica is cool but gets boring when all the characters I play use the same base

proud vector
#

PerliStare the dps suffers but

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Pog Akekuri is funny as a variant

full hazel
#

yeah couldn't be me, people focus too much on perlica imo

proud vector
#

PerliDerp but the stupid meme 150+ ult gain pog is probably too expensive just for a meme

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(Even though it’s hilarious as shit)

drifting berry
proud vector
#

Truth be told, no idea

drifting berry
#

Unfortunatelly I don't see 3 vanguard being possible

fossil pendant
#

ardelia could be fine

teal pawn
#

I personally rarely use Perlica because I'm a phys main so getting to use her is a nice breath of fresh air PerliStareYou

fossil pendant
#

long as you have a character that can clear stacks

full hazel
#

team i've been rolling, did all boss speedruns

proud vector
#

The absolute basics of the team is satisfied with Rossi Akekuri Pog in terms of combo skill triggering and such

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There is minor potential of fortmaker shenadigans at 250% total energy gain to 4 battle skill 1 combo skill rotation on pog

drifting berry
#

I guess Ardelia? She doesn't consume anything that she doesn't provide?

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou which is like

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Extremely funny

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And great stagger

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But also just kinda stupid

drifting berry
#

Yeah like at some point I want to play the game and not one shot everything, I build Ember recently and plan on expanding the roster a little bit

proud vector
#

The team is also like an old car engine if no ultimates to start with

#

PerliDerp anyways the meme ultimate threshold alone should push you away from the team but

fossil pendant
#

ember is nice

proud vector
#

It is a double vanguard team

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And that is funny

fossil pendant
#

I like the characters with counters ngl

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makes me feel like I'm actually playing the game instead of one shotting everything

drifting berry
#

Yeah, more sp = more buttons to be pressed

full hazel
#

ember gets really good the more you get of her

drifting berry
#

I wish the protention buff Ember has was on the control character and not only her

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still she's really fun to play

#

talent 2 I think

full hazel
#

yeah thats her only flaw is shes very self focused

outer ermine
#

lol 13.23 they called over sheep ICANT

fossil pendant
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idk why it isn't a straight parry like snowshine or smth

sterile moat
#

so pog

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you are looking for the hybid comps

dreamy cave
#

one more for the juicy atk buff

sterile moat
#

i want to try the cn tech

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det perlica

outer ermine
#

just run ard lol

#

catastrophe slave

fossil pendant
#

the purple quality gloves lol

drifting berry
#

Yeah so far I was sold the idea of Pog+Fortmaker + Akekuri+Thermite with Rossi, but still trying to figure out what to bring for 4th slot

#

Maybe just Gilberta honestly

terse valley
#

you do have gilberta

drifting berry
#

Yeah, even pulled her signature tho now I'm regretting it

terse valley
#

why

twilit quail
#

pog

fossil pendant
#

it's like the most skippable sig we've had yet lol

drifting berry
#

Stanza very close in performance or worse in some cases, and most of the time I don't bring 2 arts units characters on the same team so I could use both Delivery guarantee + stanza.

fossil pendant
#

just run stanza and drop a little bit of arts intensity for uge if you need

proud vector
# twilit quail >pog

PerliStare it’s for a non optimal comp so let it be

For non-gilb users he does have mob gathering which is nice

drifting berry
#

yeah I guess that covers it. Just build Pog with Fortmaker

#

the other 2 are already build

terse valley
#

bro you have gilberta

drifting berry
#

yeah, that's why she's the 4th slot on the team

terse valley
#

hm? how would you proc gilberta combo

proud vector
twilit quail
#

ok you are inting the comp then

#

game is lost in draft

proud vector
#

Yeah pretty much

#

Though thoughts on Pog Akekuri Panda/endmin?

twilit quail
#

it's probably playable but idk if it is better than just using chen

#

instead of rossi

proud vector
#

PerliStare Urgh

twilit quail
#

or going 4 phys(effectively) and triple 4 crush with da pan

proud vector
#

The truth hurts

drifting berry
full hazel
#

panda the sleeper hitter

proud vector
fossil pendant
#

just have like 230% uge on gilberta and dont trigger her combo 🙂

terse valley
#

ohh i get it gilberta bs sucks cuz yknow it gathers enemies

#

it sucks

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heh

drifting berry
fossil pendant
#

you'll lose the sig buff but technically it does

terse valley
#

? why would you not want a free lift??

fossil pendant
#

lol

drifting berry
#

Yapper Gilberta

drifting berry
#

Like it would be Gilberta ult>Akekuri skill>Combustion>Gilberta combo>Rossi ult before Gilberta ult buff runs out. don't know if I got the time to do all that

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou oh wild

drifting berry
#

After that the boss would have heat infliction which will trigger Rossi's combo for next rotation and repeat I guess

proud vector
#

Actually going for a combustion is expensive fr fr

drifting berry
#

Or just wait like 13 more days for them to drop Rossi combustion dedicated support

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which I don't have enough currency to pull for

terse valley
drifting berry
proud vector
#

Truth be told

drifting berry
#

Honestly got no idea what pog even does, I guess that when I see Vulnerability stacks at 4 just use his bs

proud vector
#

Tangtang is honestly a really smart pick for Rossi

drifting berry
#

and ult whena available

fossil pendant
#

thermite/morale bot

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free sp

#

well "free"

proud vector
#

Rossi’s conditionals are really just

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Rough…

#

It’s very back loaded given you want to combo skill first, and that just eats your SP

proud vector
#

So a character that helps fulfill them incidentally as part of their own gameplan is

terse valley
proud vector
#

A pretty goated partner

#

Expecially if front loaded

#

PerliStareYou that is to say

terse valley
#

forgor gilb second skill lol

proud vector
#

Heated soup soup when

drifting berry
#

Yeah TT would be better, tho at this point i'm just trying to force every mechanics on Rossi's kit to be of use

proud vector
#

They kinda are with Tang tbh

#

You generate random cyro stacks with her anyways and she’s relatively front loaded

drifting berry
#

I guess it would be to drop pog? Just ignore Vulnerability and TT for infliction

proud vector
#

TT comp is Rossi Tangtang Gilb and uhhh

#

Who is the fourth again…. It’s not pog it’s ihhh

#

…oh it’s Perlica

terse valley
drifting berry
#

Now that the issue, we are back at TT, Gilberta, Perlica PerliWheeze

proud vector
#

For electrification to trigger gilb for free

#

For the starter vuln

#

BeanGamble hm

peak void
#

is it possible to reach 4.4k atk on TT without buffs?

proud vector
#

By the power of the slab

#

Anything is possible friend

fossil pendant
#

do you even need slab to do that lol

peak void
#

ofc no slab

#

slabs just cheating

drifting berry
terse valley
#

do NOT listen to the slab madness

proud vector
#

PerliFumo teehee

drifting berry
#

Slab Rossi discussion will not be tolerated

peak void
#

anyway heres the build but i have ginseng rn

#

without ginseng its 3.7k atk

fossil pendant
#

my tangtang is 80 with an 80 weapon no artifice and no essence and shes already 3.5

#

aint no way she can't hit 4.4

proud vector
#

For both

#

Base attack is magnified a lot through stats

terse valley
#

just because gilberta has strong debuff means she only useful for burst window? what are you smoking?

proud vector
#

So more base attack is a large increase

peak void
#

thats gonna be a lot of tcreds, faaaaahh

manic beacon
proud vector
#

Most people have it wrong

proud vector
#

Gilb doesn’t make Rossi work better

#

Rossi makes gilb work better

manic beacon
peak void
#

well sig has atk% 2nd line

sterile moat
peak void
#

but 6k is kinda crazy

fossil pendant
#

nice

#

but also makes me wonder

#

when will we be free of oneshotting rhodagn for content

sterile moat
#

i actually have to crit fish to get rossi sig up in time lmao

manic beacon
safe sand
drifting berry
#

They got his ass when they added TT, now he can't escape to 2nd phase

safe sand
#

💀

outer ermine
#

bench tt and go full oneshot ICANT

fossil pendant
#

he couldn't escape even before tangtang

#

she was just salt in the wound

terse valley
#

almost clicked on the image trying to mpreg react it PerliWheeze

peak void
#

hmm
oh wait this is still ginseng smh

sterile moat
fossil pendant
#

I gotta do it with last rite now though

#

but tcreds all gone

sterile moat
#

now everyone uses slab but the ult dmg accessory is much better for such a short fight

outer ermine
#

prob w 1 yin ult kit

safe sand
#

is rossi basically just good because her multipliers are crazy

outer ermine
fossil pendant
outer ermine
#

if just focusing ult

terse valley
#

"is character good cuz big damage"

safe sand
#

mmm more in the sense that she isn't ultrasynergistic with other characters

fossil pendant
#

that leaves the door open for them to make an actual support for her

#

that makes her crazier tho

#

we'll see if they do ig

outer ermine
#

yea holo 3 mi 1 yinult kit

#

its cheap too ICANT just agi and ult%

edgy crater
#

+60% ulti from a single kit PerliWheeze

#

or was it 67

peak void
#

I can reach 616 agi on tt

#

if i 80/90 + max her essence

sterile moat
#

yea, but i need to wait till next week to be able to artifice it

fossil pendant
#

the weekly artifice cap kinda annoys me ngl

#

if I can afford it just let me buy more

outer ermine
#

fat 67.3

edgy crater
#

chen gearset yEP

sterile moat
#

its 10% better than lynx just on ult

fossil pendant
#

damn another mrbeast

edgy crater
#

damn u done artificing redeemer glove as well?

fossil pendant
#

yea

#

everything but secondary stat

edgy crater
#

oh w8, dats really high

#

did redeemer glove max at 60% as well?

fossil pendant
#

58.5

edgy crater
fossil pendant
#

dmg bonus gets a little silly

#

when fully buffed

civic wolf
#

Rossi skill upgrade prio?

drifting berry
#

Did you just change your user name?

civic wolf
#

yea for clue exchange lol

#

(i need a 6 rn)

fossil pendant
#

best I can do is another four clue 7s

sterile moat
#

april fools gift from rossi PerliStare

dry kindle
fossil pendant
#

it's all p0 stuff

#

except gm that's p5

dry kindle
#

Whel

ivory gale
#

is it just me or is the battle pass weapon for Rossi outright better than Rapid Ascent (even on characters like Chen)?

sterile moat
#

pretty much yes

civic wolf
rich linden
tight haven
#

at high pots rossi's sig might be even better too

ivory gale
#

my ass maxing out Rapid Ascent before 1.1 PerliWheeze

edgy crater
#

aint box cutter really close to rascent?

ivory gale
edgy crater
#

forgot lol

ivory gale
#

Rapid Ascent getting power crept already ChenCry

bronze plume
#

shock things getting power crept in a video game let alone a gacha

tight haven
#

curse of the critrate second stat line

outer ermine
#

delete crit PerliChaos

thorn shore
#

Crit already only exists for Rossi and Yvonne

#

Useless ahh stat

dry mason
#

No crit gaming

daring dove
#

But that’s ultra niche stuff.

thorn shore
#

Crit fishing speedrunners running the same boss 1 million times

#

Praying for their 1% crit chance to hit

edgy crater
#

trust in 5%

fringe dirge
#

Does Gilberta's ult only take into account the vuln stacks when you cast her ult? Or can you apply vuln stacks after her ult is already active

thorn shore
#

I remember being told it was snapshot on cast

daring dove
#

You can eat them immediately after casting on Endmin for example an it won’t impact DMG buff.

outer ermine
#

enka thingy is open

daring dove
#

Speed runners ignoring comfort stats. 091_Run

outer ermine
#

ICANT i dont even craft heals

#

wym yall need heals

frozen tide
outer ermine
dry kindle
outer ermine
#

ICANT hows the gil rot going schling

frozen tide
#

Ive just been vibe roting my way through stuff

#

Tt bs every cs

#

Lr cs every 4 cryo

outer ermine
#

fair lol

fringe dirge
outer ermine
#

now on rhod

daring dove
fringe dirge
#

Realistically this team would also work if we had a Nuke Ult cryo or nature character too

edgy crater
fringe dirge
#

Thermite cutter

#

With frontier set

#

He's still a support build

daring dove
#

Doesn’t need the rest of the team. 091_Run

outer ermine
#

i have an itch to play shatter, just to experience and play all cryo ops ICANT

fringe dirge
#

Damn your Tang Tang does 580k?

#

I'm just shocked I could see that damage on a vanguard

daring dove
edgy crater
#

raw 580k

fringe dirge
#

Not a crit

edgy crater
fringe dirge
#

Would Finchaser even give me more damage? Thermite cutter has so much Atk%

edgy crater
#

maybe

fringe dirge
#

I wondered why my Last Rite did less damage than my Alesh. I think it's because if I'm doing a raw Last Rite Ult she loses so many damage boosts from her kit

edgy crater
#

slap yinglung ulti set PerliWheeze

fringe dirge
#

Meanwhile since Alesh's ult recovers SP, I think I'm gaining the thermite and frontier bonuses

edgy crater
#

i got video for lr, with lifeng PerliWheeze

fringe dirge
#

Last Rite has a lot more steps to go through to get max damge on her ult

toxic token
#

I dont know if this is common knowledge but you don't have to wait for gilberta's combo skill animation to finish applying a vuln stack to trigger rossi's enhanced battle skill. Using rossi BS directly after pressing gil's combo skill and then going into rossi combo flows much better than rossi combo into battle skill IMO

daring dove
#

I’m really glad Rossi didn’t get hit with the Wulfguard curse like Leavatain anyway. Even though the devs tried their hardest to tie his bum ass to Rossi. 091_Run

sterile moat
#

both ults within the sig timing

#

using det unit perlica

lime bear
#

how good is Rossi without Gil for Rossi Endmin team

drifting quest
#

Fine

#

Pushes you to phys rossi over hybrid

#

Thats about it

glad kestrel
#

afaik main dps rossi only works in arts teams

lime bear
drifting quest
#

Rossi [Stack Consumer] [Heat Inflictor] [Flex, probably chen or lifeng in this case]

glad kestrel
lime bear
drifting quest
#

Not particularly

teal pawn
#

Probably realized he's a lost cause

drifting quest
#

Rossi phys isnt bad but its not as good

teal pawn
limpid rock
#

What's the best range for AI on Pog before returns diminish?

peak niche
#

what does Arts Intensity do for Gil?

drifting quest
#

Increases corrosion effect

glacial jackal
#

Is rossi best sub dps with gil support?

#

As they satisfy eachother very well and leaves 2 slots for one main dps and support for main dps ?

drifting quest
#

Rossi has a lot of teams

#

Which is best is not known

glacial jackal
#

But she is future proof with this combo

drifting quest
#

Nothing is future proof

glacial jackal
#

Gil is already in every team

dry kindle
#

Phys

glacial jackal
#

And she will be for every element dps

glacial jackal
dry kindle
drifting quest
#

Gilb is not in every team and is highly replacable in many more

glacial jackal
# dry kindle Phys

This is like saying endmin is very strong dps but he cant do elemental dmg

glacial jackal
drifting quest
#

Strongest how

glacial jackal
#

We need some hard content

drifting quest
#

Certainly

glacial jackal
#

But Rossi will be in many teams as sub dps in future

drifting quest
#

Impossible to tell

bronze plume
#

many teams as in can only be in phys and heat sure

glacial jackal
#

If we get harder content

drifting quest
#

If we get harder content rossi is the first booted

glacial jackal
drifting quest
#

She gets thrown in every team right now purely because content is so short and so easy

#

If it were longer and/or harder she would not be slapped in these teams

bronze plume
glacial jackal
#

I think she will be paird with gil for faster phy stacks for her ult and sub dps

glacial jackal
bronze plume
#

whoosh

glacial jackal
#

She is tank ppl are using her as dps because content is so easy

glacial jackal
drifting quest
#

You're welcome to think what you wish

#

As we do not have such content no one can predict what would happen

glacial jackal
#

And she is self sustaining buffs and hp wise

#

She feels like sub dps to me

drifting quest
#

Current teams have rossi in both roles

#

Which will be more long term is impossible to say

glacial jackal
#

I mean her main roll feels like sub dps

drifting quest
#

Again you are welcome to think what you want, as it's something we can never predict

glacial jackal
#

Yeah

uncut quest
#

any particular reason type 50 t1 armor is recommended for wulf over tide fall?

drifting quest
#

Better stats

peak void
#

I think it has str main

drifting quest
#

Agi str

uncut quest
#

Yeah agi str, does he benefit more from that? His damage seems kinda ass as a ult bot anyway

drifting quest
#

Tide fall is int str

peak void
#

irene burger

#

Still better i guess

drifting quest
#

Minimal gains

#

If you artificed already dont bother

#

Its more for new people who didnt artifice yet

peak void
#

Im using my artificed tide chest that was previously for laev

#

redeemer seals too

#

bro on hand me downs

bronze plume
#

gacha players when they see a 0.1% dmg increase

glad kestrel
#

Which is better to give to antal obj art identfier or detonation unit (p0) my perlica is using stanza.

#

this is on a rossi team btw.

drifting quest
#

Deto

#

As long as you can actually proc it

glad kestrel
#

good to know ty!

chilly bolt
#

Uh how much dmg do i lose if i dont have combustion during rossi ult

#

Im debating whether combustion or lvl1 corrosion is better

drifting quest
#

About 300% mv or so

#

More, potentially, rather

#

312% at most from stab

#

About 350-400% total

bronze plume
#

if i want to use le ardelia with da rossi can i just drop da pan if im running le rossi, da pan, le gilberta... and wulfgard

drifting quest
#

Depends on hitcount in the 2 sequence

#

Less than 100 cr means less mv in practice

bronze plume
#

wait no dont i need someone to consume phy stacks

drifting quest
bronze plume
#

goodbye wulfgard

#

adios

#

what part of rossis kit consumes heat inflictions is it combo skill 2nd sequence?

drifting quest
#

Yes

chilly bolt
#

It consumes all infliction but yes cs2

bronze plume
#

i should really

#

read characters kits more then once ever

#

im tempted to try her with pog instead of le dapan but at the same time breach

cold bane
#

i hope we get a rossi team tierlist sometime

drifting quest
#

Tierlists suck

#

So certainly never here

bronze plume
#

i hope tierlists die in a fire

#

bond quota exchange lets me buy Chartered HH permits at 25 a piece forever

#

but why not standard

#

i want that "free" ardelia you mfs

drifting quest
#

So dumb people dont buy standard pulls idk

#

(There's no real reason)

chilly bolt
#

Just get ardelia from off rate

bronze plume
#

its not dumb its called a investment towards my ardelia

bronze plume
#

wrong reconvener smh

dry kindle
#

Just be luckier

bronze plume
#

true

#

imma do a pull rn and itll be ardelia

dry kindle
bronze plume
drifting quest
#

It takes like a year

dry kindle
drifting quest
#

Per other gacha in the genre

outer ermine
#

what selectir PerliStareYou theres a free one?,

cold bane
#

huh, stanza is in the shop today

drifting quest
#

Not unrealistic to see ef take the same time

dry kindle
#

💀

bronze plume
outer ermine
#

oh

dry kindle
bronze plume
#

clearly i whale

dry kindle
#

Smh

drifting quest
#

We just got so many standard pulls frontloaded people sort of expect it to be complete a lot earlier

outer ermine
#

ICANT i think i got that a week in

cold bane
#

is getting a 2nd copy of stanza recommended if you have 1 p5 stanza already?

outer ermine
#

smh gib another one

dry kindle
#

🗿

drifting quest