theorycrafting

[tardy swift]

does rossi need her weapon or is the battlepass one good enough?

[icy remnant]

This is a dog poop video

[gaunt mason]

you forgot the hidden level multi for physical reactions + arts reactions and arts bursts

[honest hill]

P5 glorious memory is like 9-10% worse

[gaunt mason]

~1.227 for level 90 ops

[honest hill]

So you don't need her sig

[tardy swift]

mines p0

[honest hill]

Then it's even bigger gap

Prob lik 15-20%

[rare zodiac]

i mean just count the sum energy of your BS and CS usage

like how much BS and CS in your rot

[tardy swift]

can you even get p5 glorious memories right now? I'm f2p

[honest hill]

as a BP player u can as F2P idk

[rare zodiac]

but be aware that GM lock you to ult nuke rossi, playstyle like hybrid would be ass with GM

[honest hill]

tbf most of her damage is from ult anyways

[rare zodiac]

her combo skill do surprising good dmg too, hard to ignore

if you have the infliction

[tardy swift]

Interesting, I do have her p1

[fringe dirge]

Hmmm now that I added the hidden multiplier, I overshoot the ingame number by 9%

[honest hill]

Yeah it does

[tardy swift]

Also I noticed she uses Gilberta right? I dont have Gilberta weapon so what would be the next best thing

[rare zodiac]

assume wulf that give 3 infliction with 100sp and ult, that CS is like 990% mul

[gaunt mason]

check your buffs again or send a video
crush multi is also affected by arts intensity

[fringe dirge]

To make things easier I have a set where arts intensity is 0

[rare zodiac]

stanza

[tardy swift]

thhank you

[fringe dirge]

Is there a level difference multiplier? Like if my character is level 80 and the enemy is level 90

[formal copper]

Was this the usual clickbait "Everyone is doing {x} wrong!" video?

[signal palm]

except nobody does [x] to begin with

"ppl have had arts intensity wrong this entire time it doesnt increase physical susceptibility" ahh

[rare zodiac]

iirc he is testing if phys susc affected by AI lul

[formal copper]

[ocean turret]

What team is this? For rossi?

[formal copper]

Add in a dash of "arts intensity not worth for breach guys trust"

[rare zodiac]

and something along the "AI only increase breach by ~14% so frontier is better"

[signal palm]

also frontiers on border guard is just not better for damage, it's worse in almost all scenarios

compared to full arts intensity

[ocean turret]

Breach is made for crush users

[formal copper]

Mi Fu gonna crush all online misinformation

[ocean turret]

Have u tested type 50 vs frontier?

[hazy dune]

for who?

[ocean turret]

Pog

[hazy dune]

frontier for support/sp gen and type 50 as subdps

[rare zodiac]

Pog dps?

[ocean turret]

I mean yeah

[rare zodiac]

damn

[ocean turret]

But which is better

[hazy dune]

there's this non set that deals a lot of dmg

[rare zodiac]

Hotwork pog

[soft tendon]

What video is this wth

[fringe dirge]

Ah I got it

[formal copper]

Something with the thumbnail "everyone is misunderstanding arts intensity" or some other trashy headline I don't even remember.

[hazy dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_Xg4lrxMI

[formal copper]

Something along those lines

[fringe dirge]

Da Pan's crush damage bonus is indeed its own multiplier, separate from the regular damage bonus multiplier group

That's why my numbers were off

[formal copper]

Basically claims that everyone thought arts intensity boosted physical susceptibility (???)

[fringe dirge]

I was treating it like regular dmg%

[signal palm]

dps is just not the best way to play pog

except for aura farming maybe, but you can just use him as controlled without dps build

[formal copper]

Well at least the title is not wrong, it is the build most players ignore.

[signal palm]

thats what i did until i discovered chen

[formal copper]

[signal palm]

lmao

[hazy dune]

but hey, fun is fun ig

[formal copper]

As long as they don't claim that it's the best build or meta

[signal palm]

^

[twilit quail]

unfortunately most do

they will make video about why everyone is wrong

[signal palm]

[twilit quail]

and then make basic mistake

[hazy dune]

And there's those who believe on tiktok videos

[formal copper]

As a long-time valley of despair resident I can confirm this is real.

[rare zodiac]

we all get there

[formal copper]

Yeah maybe if this was 2021 that would work, brain is cleansed of amogus though.

[hazy dune]

give us your sight🥀 cant see

[drifting quest]

Every time someone suggests mi sec on a non crit carry

99% of the time its always a wrong calc/formula

[hazy dune]

Dry ahh Theorycrafting🥀

[glacial sable]

Lies and deceit, arts propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvc5sGo3fis

Do it.

(Don't).

[honest hill]

1m 45s...

[glacial sable]

Shhhh

Watch how the ult does like 20k, while combo does like 70k.

[honest hill]

what kind of build is that lol

[glacial sable]

Physical.

[honest hill]

swordmancer or something?

[glacial sable]

It's the 'well, I have no gilb and I want to use Rossi' build.

[honest hill]

damn the ult did like no damage 💀

[glacial sable]

Not really, redeemer's chest, m1 sec crit gloves, m1 sec crit things (2)

[glacial sable]

Yeah, it's beautiful.😭

[honest hill]

what's the point of ulting if she will do no damage

[glacial sable]

Idk I haven't seen a better no Gil team.

[glacial sable]

Good q! I couldn't tell you!

[flat glen]

for a team of rossi/endmin/gilberta
is P5 Wulfguard with clannibal better than Perlica?

[frigid vector]

there's 53s clears that could be further optimised, this is very long I feel...

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ACXaBZE3N/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.9&trackid=web_related_0.router-related-2479604-tn27s.1774947089677.453&vd_source=2333cbdc65b59f6ff9aa23e64112a156

[glacial sable]

Idk I got sent this and it's the only vid I have of the team, sooooooo...

[sturdy hill]

yessir

i have reached it

[frigid vector]

I unironically think that running ake would be competitive dmg wise and make up for the crush loss

or even pure stagger since that's what gate rossi clears

[honest hill]

They don't even show the stats...

[civic wolf]

is this likely to be final? the Rossi build i mean

[next helm]

I don't even know the gear pieces that ember is wearing

💀

[sturdy hill]

maybe

[dry kindle]

if youre sane yes

[civic wolf]

wdym you're sane

[terse valley]

eh slab madness

[dry kindle]

crit gambling

when ult has 54 rolls

go have fun with that

[sturdy hill]

[frigid vector]

hollup

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ZoXeBdEHU/?vd_source=2333cbdc65b59f6ff9aa23e64112a156

44s by doing hybrid elec and rossi

rossi ult is good enough and vuln stack for gilb actually works out

p1 gilb but p4 avy and p0 rossi

[civic wolf]

huh. Rossi's a Crit Rate character?

[frigid vector]

aye her whole thing is crit dmg

[dry kindle]

🗿

and double hits on crits

that also crit

[hazy dune]

dry

[drifting quest]

She gets slapped on any gilb arts team and sort of just does better than some buffers

TT Rossi

Elec Rossi

Yvonne rossi

[frigid vector]

ye

it's

actually kinda funny cause I thought she'd be main dps

but at p0/p0

she gets better clears as a subdps

and like... does well too

[icy remnant]

Need Rossi randomizer

Just get 3 random team mates and clear

[dry kindle]

🗿

wonder if mifu or lizhiyan are meant to be her teammate

[hazy dune]

mifu probably and our celestial master is a whole new dps imo

[icy remnant]

Gilberta was probably meant to be her team mate

That makes it so it’s already a pairing

[dry kindle]

no combust

smh

[icy remnant]

That’s Wulfgard copium

[dry kindle]

🗿

[icy remnant]

You know it’s true

[dry kindle]

fangyi on her way to be yellow laev

green

whatever

electric go brr

[drifting quest]

Neither, hopefully

[gritty briar]

this looks so slow that i think it's more the fight being played poorly rather than the team's fault tbh

wasting time on ulting the boss when it had 3 stacks and most of it's damage reduction up was certainly a choice

[dry kindle]

waiting to get jumpscared by lizhiyan being an arts unit user or something

[hazy dune]

Hopefully yeah so I can have a yellow type laevatain oh wait, she's green

[terse valley]

yup thats yellow

[dry kindle]

elec is yellow

fuck you

[chilly bolt]

@dry mason how does this team work

[terse valley]

she's gonna be nature dps btw

[icy remnant]

Laev has one of the most boring gameplay of all

[dry kindle]

hit the enemy

[icy remnant]

I hope Fangyi isn’t Laev

[dry mason]

Vul stack will block Ardelia's CS

Can't

[chilly bolt]

oh right

wulf then

[dry kindle]

yeaaaaaah thats not happening

[chilly bolt]

that if it's 1 rot then it works?

[icy remnant]

[dry mason]

if you bully Rho then it works

[drifting quest]

She has vanguard energy so prob 1h sword

[icy remnant]

Rotations that only work once isn’t called a rotation

[dry kindle]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1WeXDB2Esn/

[icy remnant]

[feral fractal]

yall got some wulfgard dps teams

[drifting quest]

Perlica antal flex

[icy remnant]

Wulfgard

[hazy dune]

Wulfgard, Akekuri, Perlica, Arclight

[icy remnant]

Is a unit that exists

[dry kindle]

tf wrong vid

waaah

[outer ermine]

skill issue

[dry kindle]

your fault

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-16817230695535296570

gn

[chilly bolt]

slab surtr

crazy

[terse bridge]

Do we have any reliable rossi guides so far with calcs?

[icy remnant]

So uh I know TangTang just left but

[dry kindle]

thought there was a laev rossi gilb ard vid guess not

[icy remnant]

I’m already slightly regretting skipping

Fk me

[warped sorrel]

is she like the best for rossi?

[icy remnant]

I don’t care for Rossi rn

[terse bridge]

Alright, then do we have any unreliable guides without calcs?

[warped sorrel]

ask me

[icy remnant]

Gilberta and TangTang are the units I skipped that want
But I also want Mifu

[hazy dune]

we

[terse bridge]

Ok

@me hey do u have rossi guides

[hazy dune]

yes

[icy remnant]

I decided I couldn’t roll for TT and then Mifu since I didn’t know what’s next and I also wanted to save for Gilberta rerun

The strongest weapon is turning out to be the credit card

[hazy dune]

probably she's coming back next year and by that time, there'll be better support

[icy remnant]

[warped sorrel]

why are you regret not pulling tangtang?

[icy remnant]

Cus she’s a lot more flexible than just a Cryo support

[hazy dune]

flexible operator

[icy remnant]

That people have proven with Rossi

[civic wolf]

i regret pulling tangtang because i got a tangtang dupe now

Yeah its stupid but fuck it i might as well double down on making fun of Endfield where you always lose no matter the pull outcome

[icy remnant]

But I couldn’t have known that before the banner ended

[warped sorrel]

i thought tangtang is bad

[icy remnant]

That’s the flaw of the 50/50 loss adding past banner units
But it’s objectively better than not adding past banner units

You can just pretend you rolled Ember or smth

[civic wolf]

i want to build my perma dupes so i can grab Last Rite sig in the future though...

[icy remnant]

It’ll come eventually

Everyone complains about C70 Qiqi for a reason

[civic wolf]

2-3 years down the line trust

[warped sorrel]

isnt rossi is more flexible

[hazy dune]

Yes but also is tt

[frigid vector]

the more i see rossi clears

the more I realise

rossi is actually very good but not because she's a good character per se

[icy remnant]

She just has inflated numbers

[frigid vector]

she's good because endgame is so fkn squishy that having her ult burst ends up making up for it

everything dies in 1 cycle

[dry kindle]

give rossi a real support already

[civic wolf]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[dry kindle]

that isnt a mifu that inflicts combust when hit

🗿

[frigid vector]

like seeing

LR rossi clears

avy rossi clears

[icy remnant]

Tryna act like Gilberta wasn’t very obviously designed for Rossi

[civic wolf]

Rossi skill prio?

[icy remnant]

[frigid vector]

relatively low invest and they're fast lol

[civic wolf]

ngl the theory that Rossi is supposed to be a 1.0 char supports this LOL

Gilberta was an odd 'she's useful but not mandatory or that significant' tho its mostly just Yvonne being dogshit

[frigid vector]

feels like if we had a tankier endgame she'd do a lot worse because other comps could cycle faster

but since everything just dies in 1 rotation

[icy remnant]

Next Umbral maybe

[civic wolf]

does Rossi herself have an option for more than 1 cycle rot?

also Rossi skill invest prio?

[icy remnant]

But you bring up a good point of everyone just thinking of teams being good cus they can 1 shot already 1 shottable content even faster

[sterile moat]

cs > ult

[dry kindle]

just stop being poor and m6

smh

[drifting quest]

Endgame not existing in any difficult capacity has done a lot of drama for tc

[frigid vector]

thing is that's the endgame rn

if you have to evaluate a team's performance that's what it has to be on I guess

[icy remnant]

There’s no point building for an endgame that does not yet exist

[frigid vector]

like arguably lae hasn't been hitting any records because her rotations are long and aoe focused

[icy remnant]

[dry kindle]

just wait for cc0

then we all die from cringe

[icy remnant]

First CC would make a lot of people mald

I already saw so many people upset about this Umbral

They were legit raging on Reddit

[gritty briar]

umbral stuff is so squishy it would take effort to make a team bad enough to fail it

i saw an estella solo earlier

[edgy crater]

S res then we just go corro maxxing

[icy remnant]

[terse raptor]

[echo cove]

Skill issue at its finest + can't read + this should be a casual game

[civic wolf]

THE FUCK YOU MEAN STAT CHECK? YOU JUST HAVE TO REMOVE THOSE FIRE STACKS SO U DONT GET DESTROYED???

[gritty briar]

they're talking about umbral 2

[civic wolf]

oh

[icy remnant]

I didn’t even know Umbral 2 had a stat check

Did that exist

[sterile moat]

the easiest umbral ever

[cobalt basin]

I feel like rossi is up there for cycling right? she seems to have ult up rather quickly but I might be seeing P4-5 clears

[teal pawn]

Saintontas hands typed this

[echo cove]

2nd stage enemy regening hp? Is that a thing?

[gritty briar]

they couldn't kill the rock that staggers the boss i suppose

[echo cove]

I genuinely don't remember any of the mob healing at all

[obsidian gulch]

the charging enemies in the snow field

[gritty briar]

2 bulls stage heal if you kill 1

[echo cove]

The bull can heal?

[drifting quest]

+90% hp +45% attack
Stagger threshold +100%
First stagger threshold removed
Additional Nimbus Razor's will spawn
Nimbus Razor's abilities now cause instant kills instead of stuns
Nimbus Razor's abilities activate more often
Chains spawned by Nimbus Razor's require more hits to break
All Element Res +40%
Max infliction stacks on enemies -2
Elemental Reactions, Inflictions and Physical Status last -20%

[edgy crater]

umbral 2 basically rotation simulator

[obsidian gulch]

if you kill the other, ye

[echo cove]

Oh wtf i didn't realize that

[gritty briar]

the regen is like 3k per second if you kill one

[obsidian gulch]

I didn't notice it either tbf

[gritty briar]

it's not much

[frigid vector]

she has good ult gen* but you effectively always need to cycle through 2 sets of combo/battle skills to get it

[edgy crater]

its only regen 3.8k

[teal pawn]

My ass just used physical for that one

[gritty briar]

it only really stops you if your team is super underbuilt

i don't know how little investment you'd have to have to care about it

[frigid vector]

if you're taking like an electric team, you can shortcut rotations by speeding through to a 2nd stagger and still get dmg out since you don't need x4 lance deployments everytime, you have finer control on the burst vs stagger time

[edgy crater]

nah, u need like lvl 40s team to get walled by 3.8k regen

[echo cove]

That's 1 lr ba

[frigid vector]

then there's stuff like lae, who has really good consistent dmg but suffers somewhat because staggers aren't long enough to cover her whole ult and speed clears really ride on battle skill doing gigaton to 1 shot

[icy remnant]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/s/vkHZZtR5Zq
i can’t even screenshot this cus this guys skill issue was so long it needs me to scroll to read

[tight haven]

dude

people struggling with umbral

are so funny

[cobalt basin]

ah that's fair, she can't really control the stagger timing past swordsmancer sets or she'll delay the burst too much rn she's bruteforcing while ignoring stagger true true

[tight haven]

like what do you mean you literally cannot beat this shit

[edgy crater]

enion on

[hardy rose]

But she's still a good character right?

[edgy crater]

dude, u know how good jet lifeng compare to chimeric?

dont ask why jet

[dry kindle]

someone decided to give her bskill and combo double triggers

[hardy rose]

Tbh even if she ain't, I'll still main her

[dry kindle]

so double energy gen

[icy remnant]

The day CC releases we would see so many people raging it’ll be hilarious

[obsidian gulch]

imo it's people that just use the same team for everything, expect UM is the same. And then think the gamemode is bad instead of, the whole point being to exploit the weaknesses of each stage

[edgy crater]

im still waiting we got superbuff slug like ak cc stage did

[noble tapir]

What would you say Rossi's ideal next teammate would be? In a realistic scenario

Like yvonne/lr getting tangtang type of thing

[sterile moat]

Tangtang but heat

And can eat vul

[cobalt basin]

idm if that's an actual issue we're going through, if the game needs a diverse cast to be built this early on, when units are so expensive to raise? Sure it'd be better to not have that.

Issue is I'm pretty sure every stage is clearable with every teams atm or AT MOST replace 1 unit and you'll be cruising

[dry kindle]

or just yk

solo

[icy remnant]

I think people are straight up lvl90 m3ing every single support including Wulfgard or smth
How do people still not have more than 1 team

[edgy crater]

wulfgard subdps propaganda again

[cobalt basin]

unit that's not SP hungry/vanguard while doing smth like inflictions or popping vuln for a debuff

[obsidian gulch]

I 100% agree it's clearable with pretty much anything, but not every team makes the clear easy, because the enemies aren't just blank slates you get to keep whacking

[cobalt basin]

well yeah that's every game, every build has their own perks and downsides

[gritty briar]

imo even if you did hyperinvest into the worst team possible for these stages, doing that much investment into a small roster is probably strong enough to just bruteforce the stages easily anyways

[tight haven]

unusable

just use valiant

if youre using anything worse than valiant then your lifengs damage is bricked

[lyric relic]

well there are people not even grinding or forget to use all sanity for the sake

[edgy crater]

yeah i know, just say some dude saying jet lifeng

[cobalt basin]

i'm pretty sure even if you run smth like hecking snowshine, antal, catcher, flourite, that has no synergy whatsoever, it's still easy with hyperinvestment yeah

[tight haven]

yeah i feel like it is just people not reading the mechanics of each stage then going "wtf why operator die"

[gritty briar]

someone did like 1:20 rossi solo of the last umbral
i'm not buying any excuse of raising a bad comp for something that takes 1 operator

[tight haven]

dude

you can STILL catcher solo shit

[icy remnant]

Okay who here let their operator die to chains

[sterile moat]

me...

[icy remnant]

Reading

[cobalt basin]

once sure

[sterile moat]

still cleared

[obsidian gulch]

[cobalt basin]

tf is reading

[glad kestrel]

sacrificed lifeng

[lyric relic]

I find it that the umbra is very easy to solve what I find good because who knows when its start to be annoying until then I am still waiting for another game mode with more replayability that is more intense with big boss fights

[edgy crater]

ill treat dat stage as 3 op run

necessary sacrifice

[lyric relic]

do people finish etchspace ?

[sterile moat]

Its free pulls

[icy remnant]

I needed the mats

[glad kestrel]

i havent finished the current one yet, still trying rossi teams without gilberta that feel good to play lmao

[tight haven]

it takes like an hour or so to do so yeah

[fast ledge]

Rossi antal perlica is better than rossi physical team ?

[tight haven]

this is what people use for speedruns but those require a lot of investment and game knowledge to make work

[cobalt basin]

takes like 2 runs if you wanna clear the quest+get all the new chests, not bad

[tight haven]

antal/ard/tangtang perl/antal gilb/tangtang are all variants ive seen for speedruns depending on stage

perl and gilb appear to be mainstays for the typical reasons

[edgy crater]

ange ulti with 4 vuln

[tight haven]

when a stage has annoying ass mobs you use tangtang to deal with them because she has silly damage seems to be the ethos

of course any talk os speedrunning has to be prefaced with "we are talking about whales with p5p5 ops"

[frigid vector]

ye she is

personally I think she's really strong

[sterile patrol]

lin doomposting

[frigid vector]

but kind of for the reasons above

content we have right now accommodates her well

because it's allowing her to run as main or sub dps and still shred

since all you need to do is have her + gilb and press ult in an arts team

[drifting quest]

Phys rossi believers rise up

[frigid vector]

so she gets competitive times

[drifting quest]

Better consistent damage

[tight haven]

she has a lot of yvonne-esque issues with sp consumption past the first cycle i feel

[frigid vector]

ye

which is why imo she's good

cause if it takes 1 cycle to clear

[sterile patrol]

yknow who doesnt have sp issues

[frigid vector]

that doesn't matter

[sterile patrol]

[tight haven]

she needs a second support that fixes her issues the same as what yvonne got in tangtang

TRUE

tangtang best

[warped sorrel]

so the best rossi is just non hybrid rossi?

[tight haven]

god i dont know if id agree with that

i think the most, like, foolproof rossi team is something like...

pog wulf gilb rossi?

[drifting quest]

Might as well go ake

If its pog

[sterile patrol]

pog is being glazed here now?

oh..

[tight haven]

like a team that can still work but a complete idiot could play it

[sterile patrol]

shuo with the RKO

[tight haven]

yeah ake>pog also fine

[sturdy hill]

um

[lyric relic]

pog is really fun tho

[tight haven]

i really do like pog with her for the dudes

[lyric relic]

why would you not level up him

[sturdy hill]

how does full AI endmin works

can sb explain

[warped sorrel]

what is the rotation

[tight haven]

if youre using endmin you should probably control endmin

[tight haven]

unironically just rotate between wulf/ake bskill and rossi bskill to continuously trigger everyone's cskills

[drifting quest]

I meant ake over wulf

Om

[tight haven]

it's a supremely braindead team that will clear pretty much everything at good investment

i really like wulf for idiots man

[drifting quest]

Because you dont need to breach as often as you crush

[tight haven]

he fixes just not having hands

[drifting quest]

So you dont need the inf as much

[chilly bolt]

this is more braindead ngl

[tight haven]

but i think ake > wulf makes more sense if your wulf isnt p5

[lyric relic]

when I farm stage for mats I use pog ult first then gilbe skill to get all enemy in one place to active da pa, endmin or chen whatever rossi skill get activate to use her own skill in the end to use her ult

[drifting quest]

Wulf is what 200 sp per rot

[tight haven]

i need to stop taking wulf p5 as a given

[drifting quest]

If clannibal

[tight haven]

no i mean here wulf is like

being an infliction bot

• instant combust for rossi ult

[drifting quest]

I guess if you want to 4 corro and breach

[tight haven]

hes so good if youre a dementia patient

[drifting quest]

Wulf is req

[noble tapir]

Is he ever not just being an infliction bot? Lol

[drifting quest]

Main dps wulf

[noble tapir]

ok but actually

[tight haven]

subdps wulf is like

more real than subdps laev

i guess

[chilly bolt]

what even is subdps laev

[tight haven]

purportedly you just control laev while rossi jumps around like she forgot to take her concerta that morning

the synergy is beyond fake but ho hum

not like the game punishes you for running meme teams

[chilly bolt]

ok this is unplayable without wulf p5

back to cryo rossi

[frigid vector]

ye you need

finisher sp regen

without p5 wulf

or you give on clannibal but

😔

[feral fractal]

i tried peakgard dps

well its not the worst thing ever

[hardy rose]

Is the reason Pogranichnik isn't best built for dps because breach has lower multipliers than crush?

[drifting quest]

His multipliers just universally are mid

[glass wind]

Anyone has Max potential OBJ Arts Identifier?

I want to see how much Antal can buff with that weapon for Rossi

[hardy rose]

[chilly bolt]

I have but antal is untouched

[glass wind]

U just need to level his ult. His BS doesnt even increase the debuff

[chilly bolt]

Im broke af man

[hardy rose]

How do we determine how good/mid/bad multipliers are? Just comparison with others of their class or...?

[glass wind]

Where are the 🐳 ?

[cobalt basin]

why would you only compare the MVs to others of their class if your question is DPS builds?

[cobalt basin]

in the end it's just mathing out arts pog+crusher > dps pog, nothing more

[drifting quest]

You'd ideally compare something like mvpsp or mvpr

Its not a perfect example

[hardy rose]

Wha do these terms mean?

[drifting quest]

Mv per sp

Mv per rotation

[hardy rose]

Mv?

New to this

[drifting quest]

Motion value

Or multiplier

[cobalt basin]

motion value, the %%% of dmg you do

[hardy rose]

Ok thnx

[drifting quest]

Pog has mv that dont look too bad at a glance

But the frequency is so poor he does very little real damage

[buoyant yoke]

Mv/frame anyone?

[icy remnant]

I can’t take it anymore I’m sick of Gilberta.

I want to use Ardelia, she uses too much SP. I want to use Perlica, her best team mate is Gilberta. I want to play Rossi, her best team mate is Gilberta. I want to play Laevatain, Last Rite, all their fastest clears use Gilberta. I want to roll for Mifu, Fangyi, deep down I know they both want Gilberta.

She smiles at me. She knows I skipped her. I said I didn’t like her story and she held a grudge.

“Having fun, Endmin? What a nice stash of Oroberyls you have.”

She knows I’m going to pull the moment she reruns. I farmed for her, I built Stanza for her. She knows I’m holding 120 pulls specifically for her.

She grabs my credit card. It declines. The banner is gone. I can’t pull for her anymore… I don’t even know when the next rerun is.

“Guess I’ll be taking these for safekeeping :)”, she took all the Oroberyls I stocked up. There’s no hint of mercy in her eyes, just pure 42% SP neutral Arts susceptibility.

What a cruel world.

[lyric latch]

time for devs to powercreep Gilb

[teal pawn]

Suzuran will powercreep

now where is my crusher mudrock

[cold bane]

...mistakes were made. What rossi teams are plausible with this roster?

[hardy rose]

https://tenor.com/view/shiideraii-gif-3312903941915865885

There there

[cerulean gazelle]

whats the best gear pieces for a p1 tangtang

[drifting quest]

3p bk + slab

[cerulean gazelle]

is this good to follow

[wild sparrow]

guoba put redeemer over MI security gloves for rossi, does the increase in intellect and dmg bonus really make up for the lack of a second attribute?

post artifice specifically, cause it is better at 0 artifice

[drifting quest]

Maygi's is fine yes

[drifting quest]

You need 2.5 sec att to match 1 main att

Redeemer is 111 agi
Mi gloves is 84 agi
So 27 agi diff or about 68 int needed to match
But only 55 int is on the gloves

Before considering dam bonus diff

[honest hill]

it's really bad u wouldn't be able to trim boss even with ginseng on everyone 💀

[twilit quail]

there was wulfgard dps trim on every boss within like 2 weeks of release

because it's baby shit

[honest hill]

I never seen it damn

[fast ledge]

This rossi + gilberta combo isnt the new meta?

Like rossi buff ulti gilberta
Oso rossi ulti sub dps art dmg
For every arts team

Even future art operator or any art team can use rossi gilberta

[icy remnant]

Rossi Gilberta Perlica for a straight up anyone can be in 4th slot

Can put catcher in 4th slot

[fast ledge]

Compared with tangtang gilberta perlica, which one better?

[lyric latch]

Eh. Is slapping Rossi + Gilberta actually improving performance from the previous Arts Teams or is it just for the sake of using Rossi in those teams?

[hazy dune]

yes

[pine warren]

Anyone with P0 w1 Rossi Team can one-shot Rhodagan (buff food) ?

[honest hill]

u can w tt I think

she freeze boss in place so yeah

[pine warren]

TT feeels like cheating :< Hypercarry rossi

[honest hill]

u need tt to stop rhodagn from going phase 2

[hazy dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKpMvEohJQ8 at 2:16 the rotation starts

[pine warren]

I dont like these Creator Videos with they C5 M5 chars hyper unrealistic tho

[fast ledge]

https://youtu.be/TRYEkNzZg7w?si=RJO5LxYkgJQ5Wtxc

Without tangtsng

[pine warren]

lets see

[hazy dune]

alr

[icy remnant]

Rossi TangTang Gilberta Perlica

[hazy dune]

Could swap perlica with xaihi? Or perl better?

[icy remnant]

It needs to be someone who can cause a reaction
Xaihi has no reaction

It’s to activate Gilberta combo skill

[hazy dune]

oh alr

[pine warren]

Thats goood video also hes staggering right at the start lol guess otherwise you cant do it

[frigid vector]

it depends tbh

like if you try doing last rite on current umbral 3-3

rossi's without a doubt gonna be a big increase

electric team is a lot more competitive

both pure elec and elec/rossi hybrid get similar times

[lyric latch]

I mean who are you replacing to slot Rossi on a LR team?

[pine warren]

best i can do with p0 m1 team no tantan

wish Creator videos had m0 chars and weapons , so unrealistic they dmg for people that watch

[outer ermine]

someone put a timer on that fuckin vid and see if its 14

[fast ledge]

Is it possible change akekuri with antal ?

[pine warren]

i heard you can

[peak void]

dk if thats enough sp tho

[pine warren]

for longer fights probably not good

[frigid vector]

that's kinda the point, it just performs better even though LR is a tag-along

simply because LR has a rough time at p0 on 3-3

[pine warren]

LR+ xiahi + rossi + gilberta

[pine warren]

its in this video too i think ,

[hazy dune]

there's 3 comps shown there

[frigid vector]

when you talk like re-crisis or 1-3/2-3 then chucking rossi into LR is unlikely to outperform, it's just the nature of shill

[pine warren]

i wish we had endcontent so i would be motivated to build more but rn feeels like a nothingburger

*more Teams

[drifting quest]

Players need to be humbled by a boss with hp that isnt a light sneeze away from 0

So we stop getting all these slop guides

[frigid vector]

ye...

tbh is it slop when it works lol

that's the current endgame

[drifting quest]

Yes because they act like its the only truth

[pine warren]

I have 2 Build Teams , any point going for a third ? when eventually other Units are nedded lol

[frigid vector]

can genuinely run whatever and still get competitive times because of operator interactions

like the gilb/rossi wheelchair

[pine warren]

exactly

[drifting quest]

'The best rossi team'
Looks inside
Rossi is 10% damage share and entirely replacable by a unit at a fraction of the cost

[frigid vector]

well

if they saying the "best" rossi team

now that's a different story 😔

[pine warren]

I think Rossi is decent Unit if you have Gilberta worth to pull tbh .

[drifting quest]

Im mostly referring to the day 1 incorrect gear mid teams guides

When I say slop

Vibecrafted with no rotations other than 1 video against rhodagn

With precharged ults all used

[drifting berry]

Question, does this effect only apply to Ember, or it also applies to the control operator? I guess is only ember but just want to make sure.

[drifting quest]

Just ember

[chilly bolt]

Uh how do you guys get 3 GM stacks in 1 rot, it must be either 2bs + 1cs or 1bs + 2cs ?

[frigid vector]

need a proper 0 ult start boss rush mode

[drifting quest]

Yeah

[sterile patrol]

[drifting quest]

They make me tweak

Worst I saw was what

Rossi Xaihi Yvonne Wulfgard

[pine warren]

huh

[sterile patrol]

[drifting quest]

Optionally drop yvonne for dapan!

Genuine guide

[drifting berry]

Where do they come from, I spend 13 like 2 days ago

[pine warren]

Pass?

[drifting quest]

BP + ongoing sanity login event

[pine warren]

Its over tho

[drifting berry]

makes sense

[young coyote]

I'm doing some stuff, check it out.
If someone got P5 P5 Rossi, i would like to see the same setup dmg
https://youtu.be/0InZMc0XBGI?si=_ewjzbs0n2U6xIHB

[fossil pendant]

I use lifeng ult on the breach rot then 2b1c on the burst rot but realistically the stacks last 30s it shouldn't matter which subcycle you use them in

[chilly bolt]

im trying to make a cs>bs>cs rot

[fossil pendant]

like within one subcycle?

[chilly bolt]

no it's ult cycle

i think i got it

[dawn patrol]

rossi with no gilb i'm so cooked

[fossil pendant]

oh you're doing rossi

[chilly bolt]

im doing rosnuke

ros ake gil perl

[fossil pendant]

I spent this entire time thinking you were stacking it for chen

[chilly bolt]

Bruh im missing a little more stagger

Is this stagger gil angle

[outer ermine]

anyone on mobiel rn

@edgy elk can u try something rq

oh it cancels the hold wtf

[river scroll]

hi

how is Rossi team situation

getting any better?

also have anyone calculate. does Perlica give more dmg buff than Akekuri on Rossi? since Rossi have dmg taken debuff same slot as Perlica electrification

[sturdy hill]

is it a good idea to document about 26k hp ember build,since i have finalized the build just a few hrs ago

[signal sundial]

skill issue my way through

[ocean turret]

people still think that without gilberta, rossi is bad

perlica and ardelia is enough to do debuffs

[signal sundial]

could probably have done it with the standard electro team while piloting perli tbh

[ocean turret]

"i dont want to use ardelia"

[drifting quest]

Ard requires a crusher or breacher, or ignoring both skill and combo

[ocean turret]

yeah, u have endmin and pog,

[sturdy hill]

multipurpose sheep

[ocean turret]

if not pog, use panda

[dry mason]

Ardelia is fine but you will need to press Rossi BS twice to get the debuff

[ocean turret]

whut

[drifting quest]

Rossi debuff requires vuln

Need to apply it first

Which can mean 2 rossi bskill

[frigid belfry]

wait this si wrong channel

[sturdy hill]

same shit anyways

[dry mason]

and Vul stack will block Ardelia's CS

[frigid belfry]

nah i was about to post in my private discord

[dry mason]

Waiting for Vul stack to expired mean you have to build Vul stack again

[sturdy hill]

lol

[frigid belfry]

and i saw i was in akef

[dry mason]

A grief cycle

[drifting quest]

Ard is fine for hybrid rossi

[ocean turret]

use ENDMIN AND POG AND DAPAN BRO

[drifting quest]

Its just not as popular a team

[dry mason]

Oh you're using phys

[drifting quest]

Most people are playing arts rossi

[dry mason]

nvm

Im not using those

[ocean turret]

no wonder

[dry mason]

But what's the point of playing hybrid when her ult is the strongest thing

just all in art sus, art buff and nuke them

[ocean turret]

uh no?

[dry mason]

[ocean turret]

not everyone wants to copy one playstyle

[sturdy hill]

idk... utilizing all of her kit?

[dry mason]

I see then

[sturdy hill]

like using it 100%

[dry mason]

I mean I dont have phys units built so Im playing art style

I had Heat and Cryo built

[sturdy hill]

gotta wait til around the end of the banner and see

[ocean turret]

nuke build only good because we dont have enemy thats durable enough to survive such dmg

[sturdy hill]

which team is the best fit

[dry mason]

I mean standard Rossi p0 alone can't nuke things like Marble right ?

You have to do 2 cycle

I'm using Lae Rossi, which only take me 1 cycle, only 1 Lae ult and Rossi ult

So I guess it's good for me

[ocean turret]

gilberta is her bis team no doubt, but alot of people didnt get gilberta. what u gonna say about them? "you shoudlve pulled gil. dont play rossi without gil"

[sturdy hill]

me having no surtr nor yvonne

[dry mason]

I have played enough games to know 1 thing

[sturdy hill]

at least a pot2 ange though

[dry mason]

Never skip supporter

DPS can skip

But supporter never

[sturdy hill]

the state of my ange

[icy remnant]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Endfield/s/sJGH0ce4FI

[sturdy hill]

veri healthy numbers the gears haven't been fully artificed yet

[ocean turret]

[drifting quest]

Average TC argument

[sturdy hill]

true

[icy remnant]

Woah you have her sig

Person who can use the nature support to buff nature dps

[drifting berry]

No idea was I so obsessed with damage, Ember is brain dead to play, can focus on timing my other supports skills more easily, I get to do more than 1 rotation on bosses and I just can't die.

[sturdy hill]

ember cant just die

[icy remnant]

What content do you die to though

Laev just can’t die either

[sturdy hill]

i maybe have to recalc the amount of shields

[icy remnant]

Laev pseudo immortality and self healing is so busted

[frigid belfry]

in yall opninon in rossi centric team who is her next ideal teammate

[river scroll]

How much dmg taken debuff Rossi give?

[drifting berry]

I mean I can't die even if I tried

[drifting quest]

Depends on archetype

[icy remnant]

Gilberta
Perlica because of Gilberta

[frosty zephyr]

gilberta T0 lmao

[icy remnant]

I can’t man

[frigid belfry]

no like gilb is ideal but like what's next

[ocean turret]

perlica can be stand alone art applicator

[frigid belfry]

because im not pulling anyone else in this game if it's not for rossi or have good design

[icy remnant]

TangTang

[sudden geyser]

What is this channel about?

[ocean turret]

you just cant compare gil to anyone else because shes made to be a dmg buff and debuffer

[frigid belfry]

theorycrafting

[icy remnant]

Gilberta Perlica TangTang is pretty much a giga wheel chair

[frigid belfry]

thats why im asking in theory who will be rossi next ideal teammate

[wispy shuttle]

thats more for #team-build no?

[frigid belfry]

damn it is? ok

[sudden geyser]

Oh if so can anybody tell me if this build is better than crit build in terms of ult dmg

[frigid belfry]

ima just go ask there

[wispy shuttle]

sounds like a #help question

maybe not, idk

how much crit does that lose vs ult dmg gained?

[sudden geyser]

The thing is it’s theory crafting
This is like a vague build one so I thought it’d be cool to ask in theory crafting channel

[sudden geyser]

13.5% crit rate lost (max artifice)

[wispy shuttle]

yeah you're right

[sturdy hill]

umbral in agony

[sudden geyser]

53% ult dmg gain without artifice

Maybe like around 60% with Max artifice

So it’d be around 70% cr with this build

maybe I’m wrong I’m pretty bad at this game

[wispy shuttle]

you go from 86.2% cr (max) to 72.7 cr% (max)
how much dmg% increases does she have in your team

[sudden geyser]

ugh wha

[wispy shuttle]

thats assuming a crit weapon like sig or GM

[sudden geyser]

I’m not smart enough to calculate that 😭

[sudden geyser]

what is GM sorry I cannot understand abbreviations well 😭

[wispy shuttle]

glorious memory, protopass weapon

[sudden geyser]

oh yes I’m using either of those

uhm so like is there any opinions or wha…

[drifting berry]

First time I artefice one of these, what you mean 40

[hardy rose]

Is white hot nova even good on anybody?

[drifting berry]

understand why

[hardy rose]

laevatain?

[sudden geyser]

Since there’s only 2 stats I think

[drifting quest]

no

[hardy rose]

It'll be for mifu

[sudden geyser]

Arclight probably

[hardy rose]

Nope

Arclight does mainly physical dmg

[sudden geyser]

no?

Ah ofc it’s thermite…

the only weapon I don’t have and will regret

[hardy rose]

Thermite is best for arclight. Her own sig is ok

But not great

[wispy shuttle]

well you lose 18.5% overall damage from losing the crit, so now its figuring out if 60% ult dmg covers that, not including the lost extra hits from her talent

[sudden geyser]

Uhm since 60% ult dmg is 60% dmg it’s better(?)
Is this not how it works…?

I thought of this build for nuke

[wispy shuttle]

no that's not how it works

[river scroll]

do we have any corrosion Rossi team yet?

[wispy shuttle]

the 60% gets tacked on all other dmg% bonuses, so how much you already have determines the value of adding more

[drifting quest]

there are rossi teams that do 4 corro yes

[river scroll]

did it use wulf?

[drifting quest]

some, most even

[river scroll]

you can do it without wulf then

what is the other choices

[drifting quest]

ake

[river scroll]

won't that just be like slow

that is like 4 bs

[drifting quest]

its slower yes, but not hugely so

since you only need to hit 4 heat once

[river scroll]

Rossi also need 1 arts infliction.

[sudden geyser]

Oh
I mainly focused on the ult dmg on anything else like I don’t really pay attention…

[river scroll]

so total 5 sp for arts infliction + Rossi bs

total 6 sp

6 sp maybe not that bad...

[wispy shuttle]

eh its quite annoying to calc for me since I dont have the tools, and rossi ult also includes the damage of her talent, which is not considered ult damage. however you could try comparing your upgraded crit kit with your unupgraded ult dmg kit

[sudden geyser]

Hmm okay thank you!

[chilly bolt]

not sure if i got this correct but feel like this is my best attempt https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541760801968128/1488567043606450286/Rossi_mi_sec_yinglung.mp4?ex=69cd3f97&is=69cbee17&hm=586ae8029a8de385101c78afddf7e57f8eec3a99775bcedd36b9a0f79c2f2d13&

[fast ledge]

How much $ needed for max potent operator and weapon?

[drifting quest]

depends on luck

worst case it can be like $500 per single potential on a weapon

[outer ermine]

BRO my loading is horrendous

[ocean turret]

nah nah, you only need 2 xaihi bs + flourite cs and ult for 4 stacks of cryo, 1 flourite bs, for corrosion.

thats 3 sp, now 1 more xaihi bs and rossi bs 5 sp

[summer flicker]

somehow i suddenly got rossi, but i too broke to build rossi rn

[honest hill]

have u tried swiping for better hardware

[honest hill]

doesn't ur ember have like 30-40k hp

[rich linden]

chat what do i do w all this

[honest hill]

essence farm

[tight haven]

assuming you get about 90 pulls per op release from saving/events/packs, and assuming you get the op p5 by 480 pulls, you can expect to drop about ~$1000 per op

weapons are... well, if you're unlucky, it can take you $500 per copy of a weapon after the 80-pull guarantee

it is really really bad odds for weapons in particular due to the 25/75 split rate

[next helm]

LMD farming

But 28 sanity is a lot

[outer ermine]

then pull tracker says ur wp luck is good cuz u got so much

[tight haven]

bro i got 20 6* weaps in 400 pulls (all of them were garbage)

i do wish p5ing an op meant you were a solid part of the way there to p5ing their weap

but even buying the arsenal ticket packs out every banner i dont have any sigs p5 except for laevs

[outer ermine]

i avtually got lucky on tt if u could call it luck

[teal pawn]

I'm just gonna do 30 pulls for the next 2 banners

[tight haven]

im glad more people are calling out the weapon banner though

[teal pawn]

Should be enough to get P5 weapon by the time Rossi reruns

[tight haven]

it took a while but people are understanding how shit the rates really are lol

and guarantee every SIXTEEN pulls is crazy work

[teal pawn]

25/75 is prettyy obvious

[tight haven]

most people dont gaf because theyre f2p but its egregious for whales

[outer ermine]

i hit the 32k almost twiceeee on artzy

[teal pawn]

I mean it's pain for dupe pullers too

[tight haven]

i literally hit it twice and its still p4

[teal pawn]

[tight haven]

same story for delivery bro

[next helm]

I got every weapon on max 8x

[tight haven]

its cooked

[outer ermine]

like this has to be illegal

[teal pawn]

I really don't want to whel

It just feels not worth the amount I spend Idk

At least BP you get some good stuffs

Solution to a problem they made

[tight haven]

yeah thats fair endfields pack values are just a little over abysmal dogshit

for me

[leaden mantle]

is rossi worth getting since she's probably one of the most flexable units out there?

[teal pawn]

If you have Gilberta

[outer ermine]

thank god for lootbar

[tight haven]

which ops/teams do you have built

[tight haven]

unironically

[teal pawn]

lootbar not giving me enough offers

[tight haven]

the problem with building an op for "flexibility" is that all the content we have can be beat with solo catcher

so like

[leaden mantle]

typical laeva team, Lr team and a dps perlica that I built (for a team I'm planning to make) but I don't have the teammates to complete it sadly

[tight haven]

she is not going to provide you with any value youre not already getting from laev

[leaden mantle]

probably best then to go for gilberta + tangtang right?

[tight haven]

wdym "go for"

are you asking if you should build them or get them by pulling in the future?

[leaden mantle]

i didn't pull them

[tight haven]

if youre seeking to get max value then you already have it is my answer

laev is of a power level much higher than anything demanded of you in the game right now

she will clear everything with relative ease and rossi will only let you do it in a different way you might find more enjoyable

[icy remnant]

Clearing content will never be hard in any well designed gacha so it’s not about that

But we do need more stuff to chew on

The timer being 10 minutes is a good thing not a bad thing

But we need more substance

[tight haven]

the problem is also that laev is kind of too strong in a holistic sense

she has her foolproof damage reduction + healing passive, she works very very well with only free operators, she has great single-target with top-of-the-line aoe too

i don't think they've released a better-value op than her yet

[icy remnant]

I disagree if you’re brute forcing Laev as f2p you get messed up by a lot of stages like charging bulls
And marble with less than fully optimised set up trimming can be tight

[tight haven]

so suggestions based on value always go back to "you have laev you're fine"

okay but like she can do it lol

you just need to develop hands

[icy remnant]

That’s just good game design

lol

[tight haven]

i dont disagree i just dont understand what you disagree with

like shes the only op you have to raise in her own team besides maybe ardelia for her shred and healing if you want

what other op can claim that on top of being practically foolproof with their rotations and extremely powerful in a content-clearing sense

[leaden mantle]

dont give me bad memories 🙁

[icy remnant]

If you’re going to be giving suggestions based on value it’ll probably be based on units like TangTang and Gilberta

Not in the sense that you need certain units to clear content

Because if you need to pull smth to clear content you should just uninstall that game

But because they enable and help different teams

[tight haven]

this is a silly way of looking at things, who cares who might synergize with ops better in the future if we cannot realistically know that

[icy remnant]

They just have good kits

[tight haven]

like none of us can see the future, why would we attempt to go "get them, they're good"

[formal copper]

Just slot Catcher in and most of the issue is solved, loss of dps but whatever, got 10 minutes and f2p doesn't care about optimization.
Trimming Marble with Laevatain on a lower gear set was the most fun I had so far in the game, and the most challenging thing so far so I like it.

[icy remnant]

Well your other argument doesn’t work either because there’s no such thing as pulling to clear content to equate as value
Because you should simply just uninstall a game that forces that on you

[tight haven]

when theyre not releasing content that asks for those ops nor do we have a reliable pattern for how they handle op releases in terms of support for existing ops

[tight haven]

sure but they asked for value in the theorycrafting channel

i am not making the assumption that they're asking me what might be the most fun in the future in this setting

[icy remnant]

Then you should find a reasonable way to determine what value means

[tight haven]

yeah that's fair

i didn't ask because i assumed they just meant they wanted to know what would be best to clear content

anything else to me is 4fun

[icy remnant]

To me pull value can be found in units like TangTang or Gilberta because they have proven to be strong enough and flexible enough to be used in multiple teams
And they also provide unique mechanics of their own like suction or boss stun

Those would be the 2 I’d say have value right now

[tight haven]

okay but thats more problematic on its face because it presumes value from future ops which is unknowable

[icy remnant]

Current ops too

[tight haven]

like you're claiming to know the future

[icy remnant]

They work with the most ops

Right now

[drifting quest]

least nothingburger tc argument

[tight haven]

shuo i see why you left this channel

[drifting quest]

its so bad these days

[tight haven]

it really is man

[leaden mantle]

sorry if i wasn't clear enough idk how it escalated this far

[tight haven]

no its not your issue i feel like levi came in looking for an argument

[icy remnant]

I don’t consider it an argument I was just debating

If you feel offended you can walk away

[drifting quest]

tc these days is mostly people causing arguments for the sake of arguing over anything actually beneficial

you may find better advice in other servers

[icy remnant]

I am debating what value means in Endfield

[drifting quest]

i am debating what [subjective thing] means

it means what you want it to

its subjective

[leaden mantle]

value probably depends on the kind of player you are, and how you want to play the game. Everyone plays this game differently. idk its just my opinon.

[tight haven]

agreed

i always assume people here equate value strictly with gameplay viability of which laev is uncontested the best op of all time

[icy remnant]

The thing I disagreed with was simply pulling because content can’t be cleared without it by saying you can clear anything anyways

[tight haven]

just so easy to clear everything so far, every stage that ostensibly counters her has failed to really do it because her rotations are so insular (i.e. you really only need wulf as her partner to do anything, and the other two ops are literally whatever you want)

so you can just bring catcher as someone else said and be just fine

the other two ops on the team are added value on what is already a tight damage loop, which no other op can really claim imo

tangtang comes close i think, i dont have her artificed yet so its an unfair comparison but she does lack the survivability passive to double down on the braindead gameplay

[icy remnant]

So you’re saying Laev has basically a whole team in 1 unit

I mean it’s not wrong but I think TangTang is similar

[tight haven]

tangtang is close but she doesnt have the "fuck you i cant die" passive

is my only real neg for her

[icy remnant]

She is way more front loaded and straight up stuns the boss
Personally I prefer that

[tight haven]

otherwise yes i agree tangtang is probably the second most busted op in terms of what she enables your account to complete

[icy remnant]

Laevs biggest drawback is she takes ages to do anything cus she needs to Ult first

[outer ermine]

holy im on fuckin point, corr didnt even tick shit run tho

[high finch]

give me next patch pls i wanna pull

[rich linden]

did they announce the banners?

[high finch]

no but i'm not interested in any characters we had so far

i'm sitting on my savings

gamba addiction kicks hard

[icy remnant]

I wanna screenshot my savings again

Aaaaaa

Mifu needs to be next patch

[rich linden]

ts is insane

im at like 25k

[high finch]

i want some atleast a little bit serious characters

not dumb cat and loli

[icy remnant]

Fk it i screenshotted again

[rich linden]

i know exactly what you mean xdd

[glacial sable]

305ish? Can I do head maths quick and get it right?

[icy remnant]

Imma math out how many pulls is this

308 pulls
21 in tickets
And then 8 in quota shop

[glacial sable]

20+47+260?

0h 21+

Bro istg it's always a reading issue

[glacial sable]

This sounds wrong

[high finch]

and a lil 5 from cashback

and 880x3

saved this for extra luck

lucky charm

[glacial sable]

308?? 307.4*

I can do maths.

(It's so joever)

[icy remnant]

130315

[glacial sable]

Oh okay I forgot to read

Yeah I deserve to be shot

😭

[icy remnant]

lol

They gave us quite abit of rolls honestly

I only rolled for Laev on day 1

[glacial sable]

Sureeeeeee??

Still dumb that 120 garuantee doesn't carry over.

[high finch]

i dunno about pulls this patch. but stamina. i was just logging in few days and found out i have freaking 35 stamina injectors

i was like: fuck i need to use those fast

but cause of that i finally hit lvl60

[echo cove]

I wonder why am still at l59

[leaden mantle]

Do Gilbertas potentials provide any benefit for her in term of her supporting capabilities? Or is it a very meager amount?

[dusk isle]

P2 gilb gives 2× susc from vuln stacks and assumes +1 vuln on enemy

[leaden mantle]

That probably her best one?

[dusk isle]

Yes, in my opinion

[daring dove]

1 Pog potential away from having everyone maxed.

[quartz horizon]

nice! mind sharing the ballpark of how much youve spent

[daring dove]

About 2-3k just been very lucky, could of been a lot more.

[quartz horizon]

are all weap p5 too or only a few dupes

[outer ermine]

damn 2-3k

thats my wp pulls

[icy remnant]

Endmin only p2 smh

[daring dove]

P3 Endmin weapon is the buff weapon.

[icy remnant]

Oh ya you must be swimming in the purple things

Tho I guess you’ll use it on signatures

Like pogs sig

[daring dove]

Pog's sig is worse than Thermite cutter, I'm thinking of using my purple currency for copies Lifeng's weapon for a while. I don't really think there's another sig worth having. Because as good as Last Rite is, she might be worse than Rossi now?

[icy remnant]

LiFeng is way less future proof and Pog sig opens up double vanguard teams

Right now it’s only Akekuri sure but we can get more vanguards

[drifting quest]

double vanguard teams

looks inside

exactly just rossi and its worse than alternatives

[icy remnant]

^

[daring dove]

P5 Lifeng with P5 sig is a bit of a monster at high investment I believe. Bro reaches like 10k ATK.

[drifting quest]

non akekuri vgs is even less potential

since they are likely not generic

since pog + vg can only work for a phys hybrid team as well

at least as far as nr + thermite

[icy remnant]

Element locked 6 star vanguards sound ass

Hopefully they just make em generic

Or at least a few

[half rapids]

need a flagbearer that goes in every team for the next 3 years

[daring dove]

Not sure if I should keep pulling to grab P5, it's going to cost me 80 rocks per pull now.

But at the same time P5 is doable the upgrade over P4 & the other potentials.

[outer ermine]

32k

[honest hill]

do it

[cold bane]

thank you for funding 1.2

[icy remnant]

Nobody ever stops at P4

[daring dove]

I was going to stop at P3, but then I pulled doable 6* with my 10 free Rossi banner pulls today. An got her weapon once with my 4000 arsenal tokens.

[jagged stump]

holy

[tight haven]

LIE

never rest mogs thermite in looks

and this is all that matters

[daring dove]

[jagged stump]

this look nice too

[dusty olive]

I did it :p

[cobalt rivet]

the sword almost blends with his colors

[sterile moat]

wtf is this bs, i threw over 30 essences at it

[rich linden]

Waw which one is that

[daring dove]

Now you use your Gel to upgrade it.

[sterile moat]

[outer ermine]

im so washed i cant even get the fs

[daring dove]

Screw it.

[neat snow]

Yeah unfortunately I got too lucky on Rossi and only had enough tickets for p4

I either pull with oregano or wait for next op

[sterile moat]

tried with the perlica comp

[daring dove]

Are Rossi's strkes always purple or did getting the weapon P5 (purple blade) turn the colour of her strikes?

[sterile moat]

definitely feels more awkward and less smooth than ardelia