theorycrafting

[glass birch]

go sleep

[proud vector]

yea go sleep we do more testing for when aweketh

[drifting quest]

Insomnia things i got into bed and it woke me up a bit

[ocean turret]

Does linx work on her

[drifting quest]

Ill drop out and sleep in a few mins

[glass birch]

honestly though; if Rossi's ult is 1600%; and you crit 10 times, thats 1840%. Thats not bad tbf

Plus the added Crit damage

[drifting quest]

I should have probably grabbed the checklist of things to test

[main nova]

do i still need pog

[drifting quest]

Maybe

[main nova]

i dont think i want to put him

[drifting quest]

Too early for team comps

Pog will be good though

Unknown if optimal

[glass birch]

Hmm.... I wonder; the dots are affected by Dmg% and other modifiers arent they?

[main nova]

but i want rossi, mc, chen, perlica team instead

[ocean turret]

Perlica, gilberta,pog team has enough sp(3 bs) for full rotation

[glass birch]

in practice with a high crit rate (ie 2 crit kits) it might be good

ill have to wait 13 hours to test tho

[proud vector]

Ayyyyeee me luck be strong

now how the hell do i test for number of hits LOL

[vapid flame]

will be interesting to know if it remembers buffs from application or recalculates per tick

[glass birch]

Yeah snapshotting could be a thing

[dry kindle]

🔥

[green otter]

got unlucky... hitting pity on rossi and her sig

[glass birch]

Like I said; it's HER set

[drifting quest]

Rossi Combo skill energy gen per sequence

Rossi + Endmin Combo skill interactions: does rossi seq 1 > endmin combo > rossi seq 2 work properly

Does rossi seq 2 combo get endmin attack buff from crystals

Does rossi combo need to actually consume inflictions or can you steal them like with last rite

Thats off the top of my head

If anyone can test and ping me with answers

Would be appreciated

[main nova]

i dont want male in my team, lets theory crafting bois

[glass birch]

You can steal them like LR

[ocean turret]

You can do that too.
Perl bs before autos, chen bs- ross bs- perlcs- ross cs- chen cs- endmin cs- endmin bs- ross 2nd cs

[drifting quest]

Full multiplier even if you steal them?

[vapid flame]

can you post video? 😄

[glass birch]

thats already a fact. Combo SEQ2 is designed like LR

you lose the damage if you dont eat the stacks

[main nova]

yeah i need more opinion so i can make full female phys team

[proud vector]

maybe, see what i can do

[drifting quest]

Gilb might be back if it works like lr

[compact bridge]

Glorious memory is the 2nd best for rossi right?

[drifting quest]

Too early to say

[compact bridge]

Also should i build crit gear on rossi?

[drifting quest]

Too early to say

[glass birch]

Rossi JUST dropped in Asia so

no one knows

[main nova]

🤔 i see she dealing multiple hit tho

[drifting quest]

Yinglung looks viable for rossi too, in phys esp

[compact bridge]

What is the sword candidate for her?

[main nova]

maybe yes

[glass birch]

Sig or BP

theres been 0 tests

[drifting quest]

Anything chen can run

SS, aspirant candidates too

[compact bridge]

If i read her kit right, she got like 15s crit buff

[drifting quest]

Moreso SS

[glass birch]

Yeah from combo

Crit rate and Crit damage buff

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

Rascent

[ocean turret]

SEEE ITS 16 STACKS

[compact bridge]

Ascent looks delicious on rossi

[green otter]

btw, i should just wait till the other 3 free pulls since currently 3 pulls left to gurantee her correct?

[glass birch]

20s is nutty

[dry kindle]

Why is it a 44.8% atk line 3

💀

[dawn patrol]

1 million trillion former fineries btw

[glass birch]

because its a sig

[drifting quest]

P5

[dry kindle]

P5 glorious is 20

[drifting quest]

P0 is like 25%

[glass birch]

also yeah 44.8% atk% is massive... Thats bigger then 2nd line Atk L

[drifting quest]

Atk l is 49%

[dry kindle]

Actual goofy numbers

[glass birch]

is it 49? I thought it was 39?

[dry kindle]

39

[ocean turret]

We eating good yalll

[drifting quest]

Moment

[glass birch]

Go. Sleep.

lmao

[dry kindle]

So

Who's pulling this for Chen 🗣️

[glass birch]

Khraveng but a sword.

thats massive

[drifting quest]

P5 rossi sig for chen

Cinema

[compact bridge]

Im happy i got rossi with the urgent dossier, but sadly tangtang take all my arsenal

[dry kindle]

44.8 line 3 is ill

With crit line 2

[glass birch]

yeah 44.8% atk% and 19.5% atk% alongside that massive DMG%

P5 full stack is 112% damage.

[dry kindle]

112% DMG r9

[compact bridge]

How fast she can gain that 16 stacks tho?

[dry kindle]

Should be fast

Just crit better

[glass birch]

considering like everything is multihit- probably really fast

[icy remnant]

New Chen BIS

[glass birch]

Also

[quiet osprey]

can chen stack that quickly though?

[glass birch]

It doesnt say theres a timer to stacks until you reach cap

[proud vector]

OH

SHE's a clue room dijang double passive

[dry kindle]

Gg

[proud vector]

BIS

[compact bridge]

Did basic atk can help the 16 stack?

[drifting quest]

But yes if these can be tested that would be nice
Sleep for real at last for me, see you in 5-9 hours for tc I guess

[glass birch]

It's Last Rite but Phys and uses a sword LOL

[quiet osprey]

How many times do Rossi's skills hit?

[proud vector]

reception room mood drop down and efficiency up

[ocean turret]

She can full stack within 3 secs on the devlog with just final strike

[icy remnant]

It doesn’t need to be quick since you can stack using basic attacks till you’re almost there at like 14 stacks
Then just use your skill into combo into Ult(multi hit)

[proud vector]

Dijang new bis alert

dijang new bis alert

[glass birch]

BS SEQ1 is 2 hits, SEQ2 is 1
Combo SEQ1 is like 2 or 3 hits, SEQ2 is 1
Ult is... A lot

[nova lance]

Is Rossi gud

[glass birch]

Her normal attack chain hits like 9 times

[quiet osprey]

It specifies skills, basic attacks wont build it

[compact bridge]

Damn, i wish i have the arsenal for that sword

[ocean turret]

Every enemy has different stack of crit

[glass birch]

oh yeah skill only

[icy remnant]

Oo 16 crits from skill will be hard

[ocean turret]

More enemies hit=faster stacking

[glass birch]

Ult can get that pretty quickly on Rossi

[ocean turret]

Only gilberta will help u with that

[green otter]

Wanna ask, who should i build for rossi team? Currently ganna wait for her with the free pulls in next two days

[glass birch]

But the issue being; if ult is used to build stacks, ult wont benefit from using stacks

[icy remnant]

Endmin Rossi Wulfgard is my guess

[glass birch]

WAIT

WAIT

Her BA definitely cant build stacks?

[ocean turret]

You can tbh. If youre not gonna use her combo skill

[glass birch]

[icy remnant]

That’s not true
Her Ult has a whole bunch of hits that don’t do much damage

[ocean turret]

She can

[icy remnant]

Followed by the 1 big nuke

[green otter]

can what?

[vapid flame]

it's kinda like Yvonne ult, last hits do more

[quiet osprey]

Is the description wrong?

[ocean turret]

Oh nvm

It has to be skill

[compact bridge]

Depend on if basic atk count as skills

[glass birch]

Theres also her Talent 2 to keep in mind

[compact bridge]

Her dot talent can crit?

[glass birch]

Theres no dot talent

[quiet osprey]

Do talents count as skills?

[glass birch]

Talent 2 is added hits when she crits

[ocean turret]

On the devlog she can stack 16 easily on one enemy

[dry kindle]

Basics do stack weapon

[glass birch]

it's heat damage; so dmg% boosts it

[compact bridge]

Talent 1?

[icy remnant]

She seems to be the only person that benefits from this weapon

[compact bridge]

Wait both talent are added hit?

[quiet osprey]

devlog is meaningless if it's not correct ingame

[icy remnant]

She should stack it fine

[ocean turret]

I think the weapon description looks wrong

[compact bridge]

Very good, thats what sig mean

[ocean turret]

In the devlog it triggers every crit dmg even with autos

[glass birch]

Talent 1 isnt a dot; Talent 1 is the Phys/Heat Damage Taken debuff added to the dot

[gritty briar]

oh is rossi out in asia?

[icy remnant]

I would prefer Chen to get a new BIS every banner

[glass birch]

BS SEQ2 adds a dot

[remote fern]

Is Rossie supposed to be main DPS because she give off a sub vibe

[icy remnant]

…

[green otter]

do i build anyone else or should i hold off first for more testing results?

[ocean turret]

Depends on team. But yes you can use her as sub or main dps

[quiet osprey]

She's a resource builder, so I don't consider her a true main dps

[icy remnant]

You can probably hold off but Wulfgard doesn’t really need building probably since he’s just spamming heat inflictions

So it’s just Endmin, preferably with Eminent repute

[compact bridge]

Rossi is at least above tangtang dps i think

[remote fern]

Does anyone have a screen shot of her kill tree? I want to know what bonuses she provides the ship

[gritty briar]

what's rossi dijiang skill?

[proud vector]

double reception room

ardelia

[icy remnant]

Woah

That’s broken

[ocean turret]

My ideal team will be ardelia gil pog. For susceptibility maxing

[gritty briar]

mandatory pull!

[glass birch]

Her combo is almost as strong as LR's

[icy remnant]

Holy shit

[gritty briar]

well i'm so close to pity i might just get her from free pulls

50/50 chance

[tight haven]

her combo and ult have uh

funny scaling

[glass birch]

4 stack LR combo is 1280%, 4 stack Rossi combo is like what? 1080 or so?

[tight haven]

not much to say atm

[dry kindle]

Where your p5 sig

[proud vector]

1170, but she crits

[tight haven]

1200%

[tight haven]

14 hours from now

[dry kindle]

L

[tight haven]

[glass birch]

1170. Even better

[dry kindle]

Imagine being naeu

[main nova]

[dawn patrol]

rossi is so peak dude

[icy remnant]

What time is it even for NA

[green otter]

onlygot grand vision on edmin... could do 2 more extra issues on rossi sig to get th arms selector on that banner

[main nova]

i wonder which faster ur p5 siege or my p5 ardella

[icy remnant]

12am?

[quiet osprey]

She's got more restrictive conditions and isn't a pure damage type like last rite though.

[proud vector]

oh shit the enemy can move during the start of the ult lmao

wonder if i can get hit out of ult

[glass birch]

She really doesnt

[icy remnant]

2 multis for arms selector seems pretty good value

I thought it was 4

[glass birch]

Rossi's Ult is the same % modifier as M3 LR ult

[ocean turret]

Yeah the redbull will punish yah

[glass birch]

1600

She's a Striker in Guard clothing

[frosty zinc]

omg her basic atk animation is godly.. i love it

[icy remnant]

She does have pretty absurd multipliers

[main nova]

so she proper arknight guard

[proud vector]

funnily enough you can dash cancel n4 since its like a 5-6 hit multi attack to loop it an additional time

maube thats useful

[green otter]

Kinda got unlucky on offrate since got 2 detonation units

[icy remnant]

Well Xaihi would like it I guess

[dawn patrol]

2 det units is nothing

[ocean turret]

Ill pull later

[dawn patrol]

i got 3 former fineries

[dry kindle]

L

[main nova]

ouch that list looks like crap

[teal pawn]

[icy remnant]

Det units are some of the best weapons to dupe since it changes Xaihis build to not need arts tube

[outer ermine]

full pot when

[glass birch]

Rossi has higher BS damage than LR, Slightly lower Combo damage (by like 110% at max stacks) and has equal ult damage. Rossi has some potential

[proud vector]

ok her dots can crit

thats funny

[teal pawn]

when im not brokie

[main nova]

IF we got the deto

[glass birch]

The dot from BS SEQ2 or the heat damage from Talent 2?

[main nova]

just put thermite so i can cope

[proud vector]

BS seq2

[icy remnant]

Some person was saying they got unlucky and got 2 Deto dupes

[glass birch]

[proud vector]

65 normally, 96 crit tick

[icy remnant]

That’s a reply to them

[proud vector]

(lv 1 weapon beating up rhod rn)

[glass birch]

That means we might def want to build pure CR on her then ig

[main nova]

throw him from cliff like Heihachi did to Kazuya

[glass birch]

for kits

[green otter]

im not really maining ice teams event though thegame gave me 2 last rites in my pulls

[icy remnant]

The game telling you to give Ice a chance

[proud vector]

the dot ticks also are every half second not second

...i think

lemme double check

[ocean turret]

The whales are showing up

[glass birch]

10% from MI Set
26% from 2pc Crit kits
5% base
25% buff from Combo
7% P2
19.5% weapon.

Thats.... Oh boy 92.5%

[main nova]

not surprising

[glass birch]

You can go 100% CR rossi lol

[proud vector]

nope 1 sec

[main nova]

what are we, something Impact

[sour gazelle]

the game is telling me to go full ice by giving me p1 tt on rossi in 10 after I got tt on her own banner after 120

[glass birch]

Rossi Impact

[vapid flame]

lynx slab probably then?

[main nova]

[warped idol]

are the CR additive or multiplicative?

[glass birch]

Dont think she needs it tbh

could compare numbers when I get her

[icy remnant]

Agility gear is so good

[proud vector]

talent 2 doesn't trigger off normal attack crits with debuff active i think

trying to repeat

[fossil pendant]

and we'll still find a way to not crit her ult no worries

[green otter]

i mean my highest 6 star dupes are ardelia and last rite with 2, also did get last rite from my selector awhile ago since she was the only standard 6 star i dont have

[glass birch]

wait- if her dot can crit thats just added stacks for her sig

[proud vector]

.

[glass birch]

Hmm

[proud vector]

LOL

[glass birch]

You could just full stack her sig off her Dot

then burst down

[ocean turret]

That means her emhanced bs is essential for her weapon

[dry kindle]

Sig already insta stacks from basics

[ocean turret]

Dont sleep on it

I think they change the weapon description

Cause dot will do the stacking

[glass birch]

more reason to run Perl/Gil or Wulf/Gil

[proud vector]

yep her talent 2 crit does not trigger heat damage on normal attack or DOT crits

[icy remnant]

She should have no issues stacking 16 stacks especially since the buff lasts 20 seconds

And if we have that high crit rate

How many hits does her Ult even have

[glass birch]

a lot

I want to say at least 12

[odd wren]

So whats the tea on rossi

[dry kindle]

Just stack with basics

[elfin smelt]

are we Rossing

[odd wren]

Is she any good?

[dry kindle]

[vapid flame]

there's video on yt, seems like 12-16ish

[glass birch]

She's LR on crack

[dry kindle]

At least until they remove it

[odd wren]

Oh hoh

[glass birch]

but hybrid damage types

[icy remnant]

Pretty stacked numbers and everyone is viable for her team mate

[elfin smelt]

no refund

[odd wren]

Which team is she good on?

[icy remnant]

Eminent Repute Endmin+ Rossi+ Wulfgard is my guess

[green otter]

btw, when should i come back here to ask for best rossi team without gil?

[icy remnant]

But there are a lot of teams

[glass birch]

no one knows for sure yet. She released in asia 35 mins ago

[odd wren]

I see

[elfin smelt]

a few days I think

[glass birch]

3-14 days

[tight haven]

i wouldnt trust anything for a solid week

[ocean turret]

When i got mine

[odd wren]

Hahaha

[dry kindle]

Pull Rossi r9 for chen

Trust the process

[tight haven]

her scaling is so wack that there seem to be two main things you can do with her

ult focus and cskill focus

[outer ermine]

so like lr

[odd wren]

So her numbers are cracked

[glass birch]

Or just say fuck it and do both

[tight haven]

if youre doing ult focus you drop pog

if youre doing cskill focus you drop gilb

[icy remnant]

Honestly probably one of the better designed units
You can get very creative with team building

[tight haven]

is what im thinking and hearing others say

[icy remnant]

Very very creative

[ocean turret]

Chen, ake, pog. U dont have pog?

Chen ake endmin
Perl ard dapan
Perl chen endmin

Alot

[icy remnant]

I don’t see a reason to ever use Pog over Endmin

[green otter]

i have pog, i dont have gilberta

[icy remnant]

Endmin attack buff should beat out Pog

Plus the Endmin crush damage

[ocean turret]

Perl ard pog

[glass birch]

atk is heavily diluted for Rossi

[icy remnant]

The Crystal damage received is also there

[tight haven]

it's hard to say and i think you just use endmin no matter what either way

[glass birch]

Though DMG% is also kinda diluted too

[icy remnant]

Let Rossi consume it

[ocean turret]

His endmin originium crystal will be consumed by rossi at 1 or 2 stacks of vuln

[dry kindle]

@twilit quail how good is rossi sig on chen 🗣️

[glass birch]

rossi running MI Sec already has 25% atk%. P0 sig is another 25%

[icy remnant]

Yep that’s still okay

[young quartz]

so uhh what gear for rossi rn? mi sec?

[tight haven]

nobody knows

[ocean turret]

Dont worry i already know how to make 4 stack crush with originium using endmin

[dry kindle]

Its def mi sec

[glass birch]

its been 39 mins since release in asia.

[teal pawn]

she hits quite big with her BS

[tight haven]

id put my money on either mi sec for ult or yinglung for cskill

[young quartz]

[glass birch]

If you run her Sig you want MI sec for the CR likely

[fallen cedar]

I think vul consumer is not needed for rossi team with playing with gilberta, keep the vul stacks there for the conditionals and buff the gilberta ult with vul stacks

[frosty zinc]

im getting 2-3k crits just from her batk.

[icy remnant]

Endmin consuming it for free attack buff and damage though

[tight haven]

you def run breach/crush i think

[fallen cedar]

Dapan? Endmin needs sp,

[tight haven]

theres just no reason not to

endmin using sp is ok

[icy remnant]

Eminent Repute Endmin
You’ll find a way to fit in the SP or even play around w SP refund

The attack buff is too big to pass

[ocean turret]

Guys guys try this
Chen, perl, endmin

Perl bs while doing autos - chen bs - ross bs - perl cs- chen cs - ross cs - endmin cs- endmin bs - rossi 2nd cs

[vapid flame]

feels like eminent repute propaganda lol

[icy remnant]

[green otter]

btw is there a difference between usinng essence from vally 4 and essense from wuling?

[tight haven]

eminent seems worthy of looking into but i admit i think its just bait

[dry kindle]

Oh yeah I don't think she can use yinlin

[tight haven]

atk% on an op that has an atk% line is not worth running over gv on endmin

[vapid flame]

for etch? no

[ocean turret]

Thats 3 stack originium crush for endmin. Is that enough?

[fallen cedar]

The numbers are large but managing resources is definitely tough, gilberta ardelia rossi endmin then seems to be optimal when consuming vul

[glass birch]

Eminant Respute at p5 is like 21% atk

for consuming a 4 stack vuln

[green otter]

like equiping it on the weapon, still got that 3 stat vally 4 essence selector and want to use it on rossi's sig

[glass birch]

Lasts 20s though

[vapid flame]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/

[icy remnant]

Endmin themselves give 15% party plus 12% from eminent repute
That’s 27% attack buff from Endmin w p0 eminent

[glass birch]

Thermite is 28% at P5 for 20s

[icy remnant]

Along w crush damage

[fallen cedar]

Also rossi weapon is probably the most cracked weapon for guards, super easy conditionals and crazy buffs

[glass birch]

Just requires you to crit

[ocean turret]

Yeah you just need crit on skills

[glass birch]

which no one's building due to damage loss

[ocean turret]

Even leav can use it

[icy remnant]

Need units like TangTang that has a million hits per skill

[ocean turret]

Or nah?

[proud vector]

i'm counting 25 instances of the red damage number incrementing during the first part of ult

[dry kindle]

nope

currently anyway

[glass birch]

Damn. 25 hits!?

Okay. Yeah Rossi cracked LOL

[proud vector]

and i crit only one of them kek

[glass birch]

piss poor CR

[proud vector]

(naked lv1 weapon no buffs so to be expected)

[twilit quail]

Im not even opening the game

Im opening excel

[ocean turret]

Yeah her gear, bs dot is essential on her weapon buff

[dry kindle]

🔥

[dry kindle]

we need the sig on chen numbers

[fallen cedar]

Rossi probably doesnt even need crit build, her weapon already has decent crits and requires ONLY 16 crits hits for something like 60% buff

[dry kindle]

yeah no youre building crit

[ocean turret]

You have to

[green otter]

I mean this one, do i use this for her sig?

[proud vector]

ye so stuff i found

Dots can crit

Basic attacks and dot crits don't seem to trigger talent 2? no red number when white number crits under debuff

Roughly 25 hits of part 1 of ult, from going through video frame by frame

[teal pawn]

hmm is P1 any good

[vapid flame]

you can use it or save it, up to you

[dry kindle]

evil returned sp

[glass birch]

I wonder how returned SP works with Rossi's BS

Does her SEQ1 eat it and you still get full Energy from SEQ2?

[green otter]

i see, stats on essence between valley 4 and wulling is same?

[glass birch]

Or do both parts get nuked by return?

[ocean turret]

Yeah but farming it has a higher chance of getting a lvl4 stat. We are gamblers so do it

[fallen cedar]

Currently 35% crit rate and great uptime for the buffs, probably could bring it down?

[vapid flame]

yeah the type possibilities differ but numbers are same for same stat type

[ocean turret]

I think the weapon buff stack doesn't have a duration, only the max stacks

[green otter]

need to farm mats to upgrade my upcoming rossi team first

[dry kindle]

seq 2 shouldnt even give energy

[glass birch]

Yeah but listen. LISTEN. if her ult part 1 has 25 hits; thats what? 24% per hit with full CR? That alone is 600% damage.

[ocean turret]

I think crit gear is better cause you have almost 100% max stack up time

[glass birch]

It does tho

[dry kindle]

im not even gonna question it

[cinder oxide]

ROSSI HAS DOUBLE CLUE ROOM

[fallen cedar]

Also her weapon is probably also best inslot for chen too?

[cinder oxide]

PRAISE BE

[dry kindle]

anyway she cant use yinlin on combo build

so

L

[glass birch]

no one knows yet

[green otter]

btw what growth matterials does rossi use?

[tight haven]

does she eat ying stacks before seq 2?

[glass birch]

Its literally first how in Asia; theres been little testing

[dry kindle]

it resets combo cd to use seq 2

[glass birch]

Its a 2nd combo skill

[dry kindle]

so

[tight haven]

cringe

yeah probably mi sec then

[green otter]

i mean what matterials do i need to e4 her

[dry kindle]

ok the fuckin bskill seq 2 only gives self energy

[glass birch]

that wasnt @ you it was to the question about her sig

[green otter]

oh my bad

[glass birch]

So she can mitigate the effect of SP Return to herself a little

thats good

[dry kindle]

it shouldnt even be giving any

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[glass birch]

its designed to

It did that in the dev log

Combo SEQ1 and SEQ2 also both give ult energy

[ocean turret]

A crit op with sp return

[proud vector]

oh balls

its really easy to cancel her battle skill with dodge before the goodies come

[fallen cedar]

Rossi’s combo damage is also insane

[proud vector]

its a long ass battleskill ngl

[dry kindle]

its not in the skill

[gaunt mason]

does the sig stack on basics

[dry kindle]

yes

inb4 bugged

[gaunt mason]

[proud vector]

ok you are full invuln during ult

thats good

[glass birch]

It does say "Skill" though

[gaunt mason]

damn ok i won’t calc anything for chen yet

[glass birch]

And all other weapons that state "Skill" Exclude BAs

so might be a bug

[dry kindle]

whatever im probably not pulling so not my problem

🗣️

[proud vector]

curses, ult is non-swappable during animation

[dry kindle]

L

[proud vector]

lemme try again in case i didn't mash q hard neough

[dry kindle]

another handless player W

[glass birch]

Just swap before it

[outer ermine]

[glass birch]

problem solved

[proud vector]

yep just swap beforehand

handed players w

[glass birch]

imagine if rossi Ult forced you to swap to rossi

Thatd be some funny shit

[abstract fractal]

her ult doesn't change target when the enemy is defeated

it's over

[glass birch]

I dont think any ult swaps target no?

[dry kindle]

laev

[ocean turret]

U need tangtang to keep rossi do her thing

[glass birch]

outside the mode change ones of course

Lae's ult is a buff

same with Yvonne

[ocean turret]

The red bull just jumps on you

[odd wren]

Gonna wait for this

[proud vector]

roughly 2 unenhanced bs and 6 enhanced bs for 110 energy ult full charge with no bonuses or other sources

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

8x+6y = 110, solve for x and y xD

[odd wren]

Also i guess i wont pull for rossi :/

Lizhiyan here i come

[glass birch]

8x + 6y?

[ocean turret]

Need another equation

[glass birch]

You mean 2x + 6y?

[proud vector]

i'm approximating 6.5 normal energy for unenhanced and a 10 to rossi from enhanced hit

[glass birch]

thatd be only 73? Unless you mean 6.5 for SEQ1 and 10 for SEQ2; which would then be about right

13 + 99

[proud vector]

yes 6.5 for seq1 and 10 rossi only for seq2

[glass birch]

Sounds about right

for 110 cost

[gaunt mason]

gonna take a while cause i'll need to do crit sims for it
i can throw together something simple rn but it's going to be inaccurate

[green otter]

btw, could i use ardelia with rossi teams or no?

[ocean turret]

Yes u can

[frosty zinc]

she hits soo hard im prob gonna swap out endmin for maybe akekuri for link and more infliction

[glass birch]

20% link sounds strong for a 1600% ult

[odd wren]

Hard like lr? XD

[glass birch]

Just about LR lvls of damage yeah

[odd wren]

Millions?

[glass birch]

Same Ult modifier, Higher BS modifier, and slightly lower Combo modifier

[green otter]

i see, and would she use her sig or the physical one?

[glass birch]

Not to mention she hits 100% CD

[ocean turret]

Her sig

[glass birch]

instead of 50%

[ocean turret]

It has phys and arts susc

[odd wren]

Hm if she hits 1m easily then she's cracked

[glass birch]

DMG%* but yeah

[odd wren]

[ocean turret]

I mean dmg

[frosty zinc]

dont shoot me for this but im even considering antal....... :/ heat amp and combo for more inflictions

[proud vector]

yep approximately 10 + 10 for combo skill both sequences

[glass birch]

Antal + Stanza

Lets you 4 stack heat with Combo > Ult > Combo wulf

[fallen cedar]

Ardelia gilberta rossi and endmin is actually such a great team, uunga buunga and enemy is dead

[proud vector]

that means if ulting every other cycle... she would need 70 energy from non combo sources every what 30 seconds?

thats pretty expensive ngl

[gaunt mason]

cn text doesn't specify skill

just crit

when the op deals crit damage

[ocean turret]

Just be careful with the rotation. You need 4 sp for that if you want ardelia's susceptibility

[glass birch]

so translation error?

[frosty zinc]

once i have her trust up ill be over 800 agi and nearly 6k atk and i havent maxed her sig wep yet

[gaunt mason]

looks like it

[main nova]

god my luck is so bad

i have to pity her dang it

[fallen cedar]

Only ardelia is only there for activating gilberta

[glass birch]

[proud vector]

man, if you want rossi to ult every 30 seconds but only use 2 rossi Ebattle skills, you would need like 5.7 more battle skills

thats suuuuper expensive

[gaunt mason]

en translation strikes again

[ocean turret]

Yeah but ards sus is good for 30s

[glass birch]

Antal gives 22% Heat amp at M3 + P1, As well as 10~14% Susceptibility from Focus. Might be worth it to use Antal

[fallen cedar]

Actually perlica gilberta rossi and endmin is a great alternative

[proud vector]

fck maybe Shou was onto something, this ult is giga expensive

maybe gilb isn't the way (excluding speedkills) lmao

[glass birch]

Maybe pog?

Just to consume and cycle Vuln too so you're using more BS while gaining SP?

[dry kindle]

we love localization

[bronze plume]

Shes going to take awhile to find her actually best teams

[proud vector]

might be forced, or she might need to enhanced battle skill more often

which isn't great all things considered

[bronze plume]

Is her banner out yet on asia

[proud vector]

yep

[green otter]

so hows rossi so far?

[proud vector]

c u t e

[glass birch]

Are you running her MI Chest piece? Or just naked?

[dawn patrol]

peak

[proud vector]

naked lv1 weapon testing atm lmao

[sturdy hill]

she just released for 1h11mins ago lol

[glass birch]

her chest is UGE

[fallen cedar]

Dear fullstop office, i report that she is very good, honestly animations alone is worth it

[fast ledge]

Rossi pog gilberta akekuri/wulf

[glass birch]

And you can probably swap to redeemer

[proud vector]

well that is what i would say but it turns out that my report is due in 1hr not midnight so i might poof

yeah it might have to be uge

but that loses stats so

its not great

[autumn coral]

she cute and fun ngl

[bronze plume]

She has a lot of teams that need testing lmao

[proud vector]

the 110 ult cost is scary, scary

[ocean turret]

I dont reccomend ake with gil

[bronze plume]

Hello redeemer my old friend

[proud vector]

maybe buillding around the combo skill is worth it

[dry mason]

I hate this transition so much @dry kindle

[ocean turret]

Ake only have 1 infliction

[dry mason]

[bronze plume]

Imma use all my pulls lose 50/50 but it be ardelia

[green otter]

cool,cant wait to get my remaining free pulls in 2 day to get her, kinda wish that they should should just put all 5 free banner related tockets in day instead of spreading it out

[frosty zinc]

im getting solid 50k bs hits and combo hitting like 150k hits. im having lots of fun with her. i came from laev team so she alot faster paced

[proud vector]

maybe legitimately pog akekuri double vanguardo would work

hmmm

[frosty zinc]

i dont feel like my endmin is contributing much

[tropic oasis]

Eminent Repute endmin?

If its arts infliction endmin its kinda meh for the comp

[frosty zinc]

yea hes arts atm, might have to swap him around

[bronze plume]

i know its a we are only 1hr into her being out moment but any rough ideas on her skill mastery prio

[proud vector]

probably ult/combo > battle skill > normal

[glass birch]

Likely Ult > Combo > BS

Ult at M3 is 1600%

[tropic oasis]

Yeah try the repute build, turns endmin into an atk% buffer

[glass birch]

Combo is 1170

BS is like 400-something

[bronze plume]

so they did make her numbers dummy big

[glass birch]

but also phys dot

[proud vector]

combo skill gives her a 15 second buff of 50 crit damage 25 crit rate on a 14 s cooldown

her numbers are dummy thicc

[dry kindle]

whel

[glass birch]

WAIT THATS ONLY RANK 9?

[bronze plume]

so you generally want to use it into a ult

[tropic oasis]

m3

[dry kindle]

m3

mf cant read

[glass birch]

Oh thank god

LOL

[proud vector]

her ult additionally has crit damage on it

so ye

[tropic oasis]

But her damage is pretty cracked lol

[proud vector]

dummy thicc numbers

[glass birch]

160% Crit damage for her ult with Combo buff

[tropic oasis]

Honestly, just load up on atk% buffers

[glass birch]

Nice

[frosty zinc]

i have all mastery on her if u want to know final numbers

[glass birch]

Yeah her Ult should definitely blow LR out of the water

[proud vector]

also at 50% crit rate talent 2 should give like an additional what... 300% mult? without the crit damage from ult though

it hits giga hard

[twilit quail]

ok so

[fallen cedar]

Most of her damage comes from combo enders since ult is so expensive, might switch gears to combo damage/battle skill

[twilit quail]

what Im looking at currently

wulfgard actually gets to use hot work

and clannibal

[proud vector]

wha

[bronze plume]

lets goo

[glass birch]

YUS

[proud vector]

craaaazy

[bronze plume]

wulfgard gets to be wulfgard

[glass birch]

Sub-DPS Wulf

[twilit quail]

da pan can use aethertech and ult gain chest

and everyone can use nice feeling gear

basically

[dry kindle]

death

[twilit quail]

rossi just needs ult gain chest

[glass birch]

MI Sec chest is UGE

or Redeemer

[thorn shore]

Since when did mfs get Rossi

[bronze plume]

i hate

[glass birch]

But redeemer is int not agi

[bronze plume]

this game

[dry kindle]

are we slabbing or nah

[twilit quail]

it's looking like crit set ult gain chest

and redeemer hands

[glass birch]

1 hour ago in asia

[dry kindle]

no slab gg

[twilit quail]

uhhh

if slab goes anywhere

it might be on lae rossi

[tropic oasis]

a3'ed MI security

[twilit quail]

lmao

[tropic oasis]

p2 will put her at 63.4%

[glass birch]

Whats the diff between redeemer hands and MI Sec hands?

[bronze plume]

oh my

[twilit quail]

uhhh

[thorn shore]

Oh I ain’t even been paying attention I guess, feels like tangtanf just released to me

But cool

[twilit quail]

probably like 1% diff idk

[thorn shore]

Is Rossi meta or what

[glass birch]

[proud vector]

nobody knows for sure yet

[bronze plume]

damn my pulls where good ||pog, yvonne, rossi in 40|| DONT SUE ME YOU CLICKED IT

[dry mason]

im gonna use liek this

[proud vector]

but her numbers are good

[dry mason]

[dry kindle]

whel

[twilit quail]

initial timelines

[tropic oasis]

Feel like you get more BS in over Ult

[twilit quail]

dont look spectacularly good

in terms of total damage

[tropic oasis]

I considered the ult dmg gloves, but mmmh

[glass birch]

if it's 1%; why not just go for Lynx Slab and do MI Sec Chest (UGE), MI Sec gloves (Ult dmg%), and MI Kit (CR)

[twilit quail]

like 2.6m ish

[unique jungle]

Is rossi running Yinglung or MI sec?

[glass birch]

You lose out on at most like 13% CR

[frosty zinc]

50% base crit rate.

[dry kindle]

oh yeah tf is her bs seq 2 energy

[glass birch]

MI Sec

[bronze plume]

what team are you trying?

[proud vector]

hows that compare to other teams? 2.6m is just a number to most people

[dry mason]

depend on who are you playing with

[dry kindle]

cant use yinlin so

[twilit quail]

current superjuiced lr tt is like 3.4m

over 54-56s

shorter with a finisher

[lyric latch]

I mean what were others hitting before?

[dry kindle]

🗿

[twilit quail]

standard for 1.0 team was like

yeah around 2.5 2.6 actually

[bronze plume]

whats laevs?

[proud vector]

thats a good sign

[glass birch]

💀 P5 already

[proud vector]

initial teams are already decent

[thorn shore]

Is Rossi just gonna be her own team or are we still trying to make her swap with a support in older teams we have

[twilit quail]

best lae timeline in 1.0 was like

[tropic oasis]

own team

[twilit quail]

2.8m I think

[proud vector]

her own team it seems like

[twilit quail]

53s

with 4 ebs

that's the highest like consistent one

that you can do in full uptime

[dry mason]

well this is with 1 set up with transition

[twilit quail]

uhh

[fallen cedar]

Yoo rossi combo has 21% crit rate boost?? Reaching 71% with 50% crit rate build,

[dry kindle]

[ocean turret]

Uhh

[twilit quail]

there is a lot of gearing shenanigans

with gil pots here

we might actually get to use 0 ult gain wulfgard

[dry kindle]

25 m3

[bronze plume]

with gil pots 🥀

[twilit quail]

he has like

300k dmg per full cycle here?

it's not nothing

[dry kindle]

the dps wulf is real

[proud vector]

its not much either lol

[ocean turret]

1 linx kit is better then

[glass birch]

Thats like half a TT isnt it?

[frosty zinc]

m3 skills rossi

[twilit quail]

one important thing we discovered

[ocean turret]

You only need atleast 70% crit rate f genshin

[twilit quail]

is that gil's suscept application snapshots on cast

so you can have

the vuln stacks actually be consumed after the cast and before the hit goes off

[ocean turret]

Ardelia has 20% susc for 30s

[twilit quail]

and still get the full suscept

only relevant in one situation currently but it is rather interesting

[proud vector]

o thats cool

[ocean turret]

Use it

[bronze plume]

does she just use that new crit set

[unique jungle]

Is the current rossi gear
Mi sec Double crit kit
Mi sec Ult dmg gloves
And a yinglung t2 heavy armour for cs dmg?

[abstract fractal]

she gets 110% crit damage?

[unique jungle]

Or does she want UGE

[abstract fractal]

isn't this a lot

[dry kindle]

+110 on ult yes

[proud vector]

*bonus crit damage

[abstract fractal]

Yeah on top of the base 50

[glass birch]

+50% from combo buff
+60% during ult
50% baseline

160% total CD

[ocean turret]

Monster

[abstract fractal]

Ardelia and pog are decent options now right

[ocean turret]

Shes a monster bro

[abstract fractal]

her phys art split isn't as bad as i thought

[bronze plume]

real rossi powercreep

[ocean turret]

Ardelia, gilberta pog the best to maximize rossi's ult dmh

[proud vector]

not bad because numbers are just juiced

[bronze plume]

shes great for reception room

[lyric latch]

they really buffed that combo from the dev log

[glass birch]

wym?

[dawn patrol]

combo doing like 250k lmaooo ts frying me

[chilly bolt]

Ok so they fix her kit by making it have insane number

[proud vector]

yep

[ocean turret]

If we gonna run ardelia gil, which one gonna use xiranite?

[lyric latch]

Rossi during the demonstration in the Dev Log didnt have the Crit Rate and Dmg buff from her Combo Skill. Probably added later.

[ocean turret]

If ardelia gonna use xiranite, will gil gonna use what?

[glass birch]

It did

[chilly bolt]

Have anyone test p5 bp vs p0 sig

[glass birch]

They just never listed it in the description. It did indeed have the buff during the dev log

They did mention it

[proud vector]

teams are far from finalised yet

so these comparisons would be heavily flawed

[dry kindle]

we need the p5 sig test on chen

🗣️

[chilly bolt]

Too soon to ask i guess

[lyric latch]

Oh ok. I didnt see it.

[gaunt mason]

mi sec chen

[proud vector]

we didn't expect 50 crit damage 25 crit rate though

those are BIG number

[fallen cedar]

Anyone know how long the damage boost from rossi combo last?

[proud vector]

15s

[glass birch]

Ehh It sounds about right considering she has no other buff for it and she's built around CD

[bronze plume]

its cooldown its 15s and buff duration is 15s

[proud vector]

14 at m3

[bronze plume]

cooldown is 14s if m3

[proud vector]

its basically full uptime

[glass birch]

Yvonne's ult has 30% Crit rate buff built into it while having Crit damage at max stacks and a CD talent for example.

Wait-.....

Rossi is just LR + Yvonne

[bronze plume]

imma try rossi, gil, pog, wulf

[twilit quail]

would you guys prefer for like an optimised solve to come out

before I make my doc

or to just bang stuff out that works

[proud vector]

don't make an official doc yet until optimised solve imo

[bronze plume]

the masses would probably want bang stuff that works

[proud vector]

her kit is wacky enought that i have full belief timeline optimisation will boost her a lot

[bronze plume]

but i would put stuff that isnt optimized on the doc

[torpid tinsel]

hello. does basic attacks increase the buff stacks? i saw one on reddit says, yes basic attacks increase buff stacks.

[twilit quail]

because all of the on paper stuff we did previously

[gaunt mason]

put a massive disclaimer

[twilit quail]

works now

[gaunt mason]

yes

en translation is wrong

[cobalt basin]

i'd optimize first

[twilit quail]

it's just gonna become deprecated to soem extent

[proud vector]

what are some promising teams to look into then?

[ocean turret]

Oh en translation is wrong

[proud vector]

thats useful for now

[dry kindle]

do the same as phys aka 20 revisions

[ocean turret]

Good to know

[dry kindle]

[unique jungle]

[dry kindle]

yinlin chest

jump this user

[torpid tinsel]

is lupine sword bis for chen?

[bronze plume]

how long do you think her optimal team(s) will take to find

[torpid tinsel]

[twilit quail]

the current battleship is rossi wulf da pan gil

[cobalt basin]

can anyone tell me how the sig works? can you refresh the buff or does it always fall off after 20s and you just need to play around the crit RNG?

[bronze plume]

dapan

[unique jungle]

Its agi/ int with cs whats wrong with yin

[dry kindle]

you just

restack it

[lyric latch]

The Da Pan upscale

[dry kindle]

[cobalt basin]

restack it after it falls off or before...?

[unique jungle]

Does she need the UGE from MI sec?

[proud vector]

rossi has a lot of multi hit, it honestly stacks pretty fast

[dry kindle]

after

[glass birch]

Yin is used on first Combo usage which isnt where most of the damage is.

[ocean turret]

You can reach up to 97% crit rate so you dont have to worry about stacking

[proud vector]

what.
why would you

[bronze plume]

can she get away with pog not dapan cuz f not having a vanguard

[ocean turret]

Whut

[glass birch]

Talent 2 adds up fast

[unique jungle]

What should the chest be then?

[cobalt basin]

yeah but getting it too early or too late can still fuck it up if you ult at the tail end of the buff, thx for the info tho

[dawn patrol]

pog works pretty well for me

[twilit quail]

if you really want a vg as well you might as well just take uhh

[proud vector]

no but 97% crit rate means a sacrifice of a LOT of gear stat

[glass birch]

UGE

[twilit quail]

pog ake da pan

[bronze plume]

damn no wulf?

[glass birch]

97% CR is her standard set.

Thats the 2 MI Crit kits that are Agi/Int

[ocean turret]

Then 70

[proud vector]

h u h

[proud vector]

what kits are we using here

[twilit quail]

if you want pog you probably have to ditch wulf yeah

[proud vector]

crit rate ones?

[ocean turret]

Im just saying u can reach it 90+

[bronze plume]

does he not work with wulf?

[twilit quail]

it's really awkward

[glass birch]

97% CR is MI Chest (UGE), MI gloves (Ult DMG), MI Kit x2 (CR) with P2 for the +7% CR

[twilit quail]

it's not unusable

like you can go

wulf gil pog

[ocean turret]

U can stay 70 if you gonna use 1 MI kit then use Lynx

[twilit quail]

and it's playable because rossi will get 3 stacks fo oath

but it's not promising

[bronze plume]

damn

[proud vector]

yeah i'm just questioning how good the crit rate kits are i guess

[glass birch]

All of these are Agi/Int btw

[bronze plume]

is the sp without a vanguard fine?

[twilit quail]

it's looking like

[glass birch]

13.5% CR each

[twilit quail]

ult gain chest, redeemer hands, 2 cr kits

[compact bridge]

Rossi ult cost 110 and she doesnt seems to have any extra ult gain from her kit

[proud vector]

instinctively i'm shying away from it but ig if no other options exist

[twilit quail]

currently

[dry kindle]

its spaghetti

[twilit quail]

she gets energy twice from some things

[proud vector]

well fair enough then

[glass birch]

You can chuck one of the kits for slab

[dry kindle]

bskill seq 2 gives energy

[twilit quail]

so the ult gain is like

actually fine

[dry kindle]

fuck knows why

[twilit quail]

combo works by instantly resetting the cd

[glass birch]

at P2 thats like... 84.5%?

[dry kindle]

oh yeah is her combo 10 or 5

[glass birch]

83.5

[twilit quail]

so it essentially is just 2 combo usages

[glass birch]

Still pretty consistent for the 25% main stat gain from slab

[compact bridge]

How many it give?

[twilit quail]

it's just cringe because like

[glass birch]

And considering 3/4 pieces are Agi/Int; thats a lot of extra Agi from slab

[twilit quail]

it's gonna be hard to use 0 ult gain

[dry kindle]

dont know

[twilit quail]

like just pull p4 I guess

lmao

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

i need to lvl dapan fu

[twilit quail]

you can just use endmin

it's like

it's fine

[bronze plume]

does dapan just use his normal stuff from yo doc?

[bronze plume]

i will die before i level up that generic goofy looking spud

[twilit quail]

uhhhhh

I think you can use

swordmancer chest with the ult gain

[glass birch]

Thats how I feel about Da pan

[ocean turret]

Use ardelia

[twilit quail]

and 3x aethertech

[ocean turret]

Pog

[bronze plume]

dont tempt me to force ardelia into more teams

[thorn shore]

No but he is an eloquent masterpiece

[glass birch]

Still ugly imo

[twilit quail]

ard is usable

here

[bronze plume]

STOP

[twilit quail]

but it would have to be

[dry kindle]

L

[twilit quail]

gil ard da pan

[thorn shore]

Because he is a panda but you put the da before the pan

But he also holds a pan

[abstract fractal]

do it it's not like this game got any 2 team content

[twilit quail]

like it's not bad at all

[ocean turret]

Her art susc is essential

[abstract fractal]

even tho you can easily make 3 teams

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[twilit quail]

you could do much much worse

[abstract fractal]

easy ass game

[bronze plume]

is this how i tell myself m12 ard was a good idea

[thorn shore]

I need 2 team content

But I also don’t mind steam rolling with laev for now ig

Always having full ults has made material farming such a breeze

[bronze plume]

what wep does the dapan use

[thorn shore]

Nuke everything in half a second and repeat

[dry kindle]

ember comp

[twilit quail]

exemplar if you have canal if not

I only want to put like

[proud vector]

how significant is the bleed for damage share
Its like a good 900% over 30 seconds yes? can crit too

[twilit quail]

two or three variants at most in my document

so it's really fucking annoying

deciding what

[bronze plume]

nah just make it like the physical page

[echo cove]

Are ppl testing rossi rn?

[twilit quail]

I mean Im kind of halfway there

I already did a lot of the writeup

I put it up like last week

[proud vector]

is a no-crush rossi team viable

[thorn shore]

I need the nerds to tell me whether or not to pull Rossi for meta

[echo cove]

What's the verdict lookin like rn? Art, phy or hybrid?@twilit quail

[compact bridge]

So rossi got good physical and good heat damage right?

[twilit quail]

impossible to say which will end up best currently

[proud vector]

because you can split into arts focus/hybrid/phys focus

[echo cove]

Ah... I see, noted

What abt bp vs sig?

[twilit quail]

look

lae is fucking

waiting in the wings

[echo cove]

Is it also rot dependent?

[twilit quail]

she's always like looming

the chances of her being the best solve is never zero

[thorn shore]

Laev Rossi team where you just ignore Rossi and use Laev

[twilit quail]

I honestly think lack of test server might be more harm than good honestly

[thorn shore]

Big money

[twilit quail]

because now we end up with this

and then people are going to rush shit out

[ocean turret]

Rossi the Most flexible and inflexible op so far

[twilit quail]

that becomes deprecated less than a week later

[thorn shore]

At least the NA slop content channels can’t pump shit out rn

[cobalt basin]

nah it's more fun figuring shit out, or watch the community figure shit out

[thorn shore]

They gotta wait for the Asia nerds to get goin

[dry kindle]

who said

vibecrafting go brrr

[sturdy hill]

mmm

[thorn shore]

Is there actually content farms pumping out meta guides based on watching Asia players

[twilit quail]

like the way I feel about this so far

[echo cove]

I heard ystd that there were talk abt bp being possibly better than her sig depending on number. Is this still the case since we got the number now?

[twilit quail]

is that she is waiting for wulfgard alter

even more than lae is

[dry kindle]

😭

dw lizhiyan will be 6* wulf

trust

[twilit quail]

uhh there's basically no world where bp will be better

at best currently it can be 9% worse than sig at p5

[remote fern]

I theorize Rossie will be sub-carry to Ember hyper carry

[proud vector]

in theory she doesn't even need it to be heat infliction no?

[twilit quail]

correct

[thorn shore]

Actually the theorycrafters do have it before me

[sturdy hill]

nawh

[dry kindle]

4 stack corrosion gaming where

[thorn shore]

Stupid timezone based updates

[dry kindle]

L

[bronze plume]

just be in asia?

[sturdy hill]

i would shill 25k+ hp ember build til eternity

[thorn shore]

I wouldn’t insta pull Rossi anyway

[proud vector]

do it

[thorn shore]

Only way I pull is if she’s meta

[remote fern]

Is that this?

[proud vector]

she's bis Dijang reception for clues

irreplacable

[warped oar]

for gil/ard, which do we swap out xiranite set for?

[thorn shore]

10% increase to my daily 0-20 possible oroberyls oh fuck yeah

[ocean turret]

MI gear rossi
Xiranite ard
I dunno yet gilb
Frontier pog

[sturdy hill]

*update