#theorycrafting

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edgy crater
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tanking damage faster than dodging it ?

outer ermine
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yea only xai matters in the end

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i could xai ult in the beginning b4 anything but whether or not i can fit everything PerliWheeze is another question

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thats when kb will matter

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and the most fucked up thing in that timeline is

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i can chase iframe for it to really save time

icy remnant
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Next weapon banner has Wedge again

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Wedge everywhere

drifting quest
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100% appearance rate on lim unit sig weap banners

summer flicker
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imagine p5 wedge and kill yvonne sig

fossil pendant
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but it's ugly as fuck

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so still not using it gladge

summer narwhal
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Aethertech gloves for Perlica?

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I assume intensity, or full Pulser Labs?

main nova
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you have horse horse named finiancial? PerliStareYou

daring dove
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P1 Yvonne sig is pretty much comparable to Wedge P5 right?

summer flicker
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yes

chilly bolt
daring dove
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yeah with P5 Yvonne sig having 44.8% more DMG than P5 Wedge, they

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Are a lot closer than I imagined.

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That said, Yvonne's weapon has a better trigger condition & uptime.

chilly bolt
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oh maybe the last pot is bigger

tight haven
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the last pot is usually around double the value of any other pot upgrade on a weapon

daring dove
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Acutally I supppose P0 is 4 value techincally since you get base value + 3 pips.

tight haven
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no i mean the literal numerical increase when i refer to "value"

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like the first four potentials on thermite cutter is +1% but p5 thermite is +2%

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i get what you mean but i think its just more confusing to lay it out that way since anyone going for potentials will definitely have a +3 3rd stat essence

glass birch
daring dove
glass birch
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Oh its "on bs cast" and "when BS causes a reaction"

frosty zinc
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all the gear sets ready for my Teensy Weensy leader. but seeing her sig weapon now has a crit based talent ill prob go the double crit kit,

glass birch
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If her CR buff is good swap 1 kit for Slab, otherwise youre golden

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K.I.S.S

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Keep. It. Simple. Stupid. kekzu I tell myself that all the time

drifting quest
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artificing was bold

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but hey you do you

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it'll clear anyway game is easy

vapid flame
drifting quest
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we know nothing about rossi

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hence it was very bold

signal palm
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lmao

lost void
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Hello how much UGE needed by Laevatain to have ult buff 90% or even 100 uptime?

lyric latch
lost void
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I go team building then?

lyric latch
lost void
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Is this the one?

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Uhm.. What do I do with this, how do I navigate?

lyric latch
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below "1.0 Teams" click on "Laevatain" and it will move you to her page

cinder oxide
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Did we get any new numbers since 8h ago?

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Just woke up

drifting quest
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No

lyric latch
drifting quest
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If they put out update notice thats when it drops

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In files

cinder oxide
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Fair nough

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1.5h advance notice

drifting quest
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So after that datamine begins

lyric latch
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the update will start like 1 and half hours before Asia gets Rossi. 1 hour foresight.

fossil pendant
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I miss cn being ahead to have a crystal ball ngl

drifting quest
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Ok so theres a good chance there is 0 foresight lol

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Time to extract, dig through, post

terse valley
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the files

bold rose
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Yall think Chen will ever fall out of favor in phys teams or is she basically just the phys Xiangling

terse valley
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we'll get a better chen eventually

bold rose
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Like I doubt any phys teams would stop using Chen in the future unless they like powercreep her (likely with her own alter)

fossil pendant
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she's very good for what she is but powercreep is always entirely at the whim of the devs, if they want to they'll do it

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cool that glorious memory accidentally made her even better

signal palm
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@twilit quail would I be correct to say that in most physical team setups arts intensity build > frontiers for pogranichnik since breach debuff is an independent multiplicative zone from damage dealt % which is much more heavily diluted, and that is what frontiers provides

and is it also correct to say that in fully upgraded physical teams pogranichnik contribution <10% of total team damage so frontiers kit buff to will and his own physical damage isn't enough to overtake arts intensity in terms of total team damage

in my own testing my overall team damage ceiling is consistently higher with arts intensity build than with frontiers although it's not extreme
been seeing a lot of people lately say that arts intensity build is only a small improvement to breach (dps pog users) and i feel like i disagree

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frontiers says +dmg% so im not sure if thats in the same multiplicative zone as damage dealt%

lyric latch
sterile patrol
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arts is king in phys rn

honest hill
sterile patrol
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he did get better pieces though recently

signal palm
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certain video by a certain someone recently saying ai only small improvement to breach (pog main dps user) and it just didnt sit right with me

fossil pendant
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if it's the video I'm thinking of it was just very misleading when you consider the full picture

signal palm
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yeah, I don't think it's wrong on many points but the wording of much of it was kind of sus

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like yes, dps pog does get the job done but your overall team damage ceiling is certainly lowered

drifting quest
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SM gear is pretty nice compression for pog

fossil pendant
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full AI on pog is already a higher additional multiplier to breach than frontier's can provide in what is already an extremely diluted bracket for chen and less so for endmin but still the case

drifting quest
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extra stagger while still retaining AI stacking

ocean turret
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how much sp does pog regen in full rotation?

drifting quest
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at what skill levels

ocean turret
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what lvl does he start getting 10 sp return?

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on his ult

odd wren
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What time is rossi again?

fossil pendant
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seems like 210 sp over a 4/3/4

drifting quest
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and endmin or dapan team

ocean turret
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in asia its 4 nad a half hrs

fossil pendant
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if I can add numbers

honest hill
# odd wren What time is rossi again?

Asia Server: Mar. 29, 2026 at 12:00 (server time) – Before version update and maintenance
Americas / Europe Server: Mar. 29, 2026 at 12:00 (server time) – Before version update and maintenance

signal palm
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pls no panda powercreep

odd wren
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5 stars will get power crept anyways

ocean turret
inland quarry
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Looks like another chen bis then?

honest hill
drifting quest
fossil pendant
ocean turret
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if youre gonna use dapan, dont ever use his bs cause rossi, gil, and whoever on the 3rd slot needs it on the bs rotation

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but im taking perl, ard, pog on this onePerliFumo

signal palm
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unless rossi has some crazy numbers or something idk

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right now panda can pull 1.1m+ (p0 exemplar) if you use his bs to stack buffs on himself

ocean turret
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yeah but rossi and gilberta needs their bs. the 3rd sp slot be used by dapan or the 3rd ops

signal palm
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sad

ocean turret
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i think perlica,gil much better match for dapan

fossil pendant
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does rossi bs apply heat I forgor think

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or was it just ult

drifting quest
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just ult

ocean turret
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perlica and gil can share 1 sp.(use perlica bs for single target, gilb for multiple targets)

drifting quest
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bs applies lift

lyric latch
signal palm
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i probably wont switch to rossi because current mono physical team has more aura

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im about to get shot for that statement

ocean turret
glass wind
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Check Rossi, Pog, Gil and Wulfgard Drip

thorn shore
glass wind
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Red Mafia

thorn shore
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or maybe not

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current phys team meta for the male lovers

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not little girl lovers

ocean turret
signal palm
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also not enough pulls to guarantee so I dont feel like gambling

glass wind
signal palm
thorn shore
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rossi is both little and a girl simultaneously

drifting quest
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BS:
Seq 1 = Physical Damage + Lift
If enemy has vuln already cast Seq 2 as well
Seq 2 = Heat Damage

Combo:
When enemy has both Vuln and Infliction (not clear if it will always proc when they have both, or if you need to reapply one to trigger it)
Seq 1 = Physical Damage
Seq 2 = Consume infliction stacks to deal Physical Damage scaling off infliction stacks consumed and apply Lift. Increase CR and CD for Rossi.
If Seq2 was perfectly timed, apply 1 more Vuln stack

Ult:
Heat Damage + Heat Infliction
Increased Crit Damage during Ult

T1:
BS Seq2 applies Clawmark, dealing Physical Damage DoT and applying Phys/Heat Damage Taken debuff

T2:
When Critting an enemy with Clawmark, deal extra damage and recover HP.
If enemy is also combusted deal more damage and heal more HP

ocean turret
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bro, i dont give a shi if shes a little gurl or a buffed up mascular dude

drifting quest
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Full Rossi stuff that we know for now

fossil pendant
drifting quest
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formatting could be better i guess

ocean turret
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were talking about skill set here

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anyways.

edgy crater
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the number still unknown

ocean turret
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if its about numbers, all we can do is just speculation

drifting quest
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dont worry they're preloading rossi 90m before her banner

ocean turret
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take rest yall

drifting quest
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you can have less than an hour of TC

ocean turret
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yall need that later

honest hill
lyric latch
honest hill
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and also pog got double slide

thorn shore
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surely they dont make rossi yvonne-level bad

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surely

drifting quest
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i certainly cannot wait for the 100 comments day 1 asking for complete Rossi TC 100% accurate never to change

thorn shore
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not again

drifting quest
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yvonne isnt bad

honest hill
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I mean Yvonne isn't bad

drifting quest
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she hasnt been bad since like laev banner

thorn shore
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shes pretty bad for a limited 6 star

drifting quest
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and she wasnt bad then TC was just behind

honest hill
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she's just reliant on teammates to function

drifting quest
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ehh

thorn shore
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yeah 2 other limited 6 star teammates

drifting quest
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no more than other units

honest hill
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I mean how well can she do solo

drifting quest
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how well can any unit do solo

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she clears

honest hill
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last rite can trim solo

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at p0 w no food

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against all bosses I believe

drifting quest
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that is not the feat you think it is

honest hill
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Yvonne can't do that

ocean turret
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no no thats not the point here. he says yvonnes' teammates are premium

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she needs 6star team mates to function

drifting quest
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i mean most teams are premium by similar standards

honest hill
thorn shore
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just appending that on there

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or else yall gon come at me with some "she can work with free teammates" bs

glass wind
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she can work with free teammates PerliFumo

honest hill
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pre tt she needed gilberta

lyric latch
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the real premium will be the future Nature team.

honest hill
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true

drifting quest
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LR w/ Tangtang + Sig
P5 Xaihi w/ Deto or Chiv

Phys is 2 Standard banner units, with 6* weapons if not Sig(s) for all 4

Laev w/ P5 Wulf, Gilb sometimes, Antal with Deto unit, etc etc

Electric w/ Gilb, Gilb sig
Deto unit on antal if run
Thermite Akekuri
Sometimes Oblivion Perlica
Perlica and Avywenna at P5

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etc etc

honest hill
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gilberta is ready

drifting quest
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every team if 'premium' if you stop looking at just banner units

glass wind
drifting quest
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especially since P5 5* units can be harder to get than 6's

granite fox
drifting quest
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yes Yvonne's highest performing team is also one of the most expensive
but she has competitive teams at equal or lower cost than others

drifting berry
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Glad I don't like DaPan, mf be at p0 and I have pulled on every single banner

ocean turret
honest hill
granite fox
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"She can't solo content in this game with a team of 4 units" like what?

thorn shore
honest hill
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ur confusing me w sico

drifting quest
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ok so if you dont read things

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there is no discussion

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have at it

honest hill
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Cris I said she isn't bad not that she is bad

granite fox
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Lmao

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Sorry, I'm kinda tired

honest hill
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midnight

glass wind
honest hill
drifting quest
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i wait for the day we get actual mods in EN help channels

honest hill
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that'll be a while

drifting quest
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quite a while

honest hill
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yeah a long time

drifting quest
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requiring an NDA to mod the server is pretty insane

thorn shore
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they probably get told shit beforehand

drifting quest
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which makes sense why they are so understaffed now that I know it

honest hill
drifting quest
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haha no

drifting berry
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Also you don't get the benefit of having your personal account being the one with the mod status

thorn shore
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maybe ingame rewards

honest hill
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oh

thorn shore
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no contracts

drifting quest
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even among official servers this is the first ive seen requiring an NDA

honest hill
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I know about ingame rewards

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that's normal for big gacha games

drifting berry
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I know a mod on ba, idk if this applied to everyone but some of them are under NDA

honest hill
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or big gacha companies idk

drifting berry
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Weird is that everyone is under NDA

drifting quest
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i mean dont get me wrong im sure there are some with NDA contracts too

drifting berry
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Yeah prob not the common

thorn shore
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im just guessing sometimes they want mods to know when smth big is abt to hit so theyget their lazy ahh on discord

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or not leak whatever the discord admins r saying abt us members behind our back

drifting quest
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wayyyyy too much liability to just sit and tell people to chill out with misinfo / feelscraft for a few hours a day

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for help section mods

honest hill
drifting quest
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then they shouldnt have signed up to be a help section specific mod

honest hill
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true..

drifting berry
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Talking about misinfo, is the Maygii LR weapon comparison inaccurate by any chance?

Yesterday I told someone that Examplar was only like 11% behind LR signature and that he was okay to use LR with one of the 2 free 6* claymore.

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Tho I mention that this was assuming TT

honest hill
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idk actually

drifting quest
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different assumptions

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simple as that

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maygi calcs are team damage

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so gaps look smaller

honest hill
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yea is not individual damage

drifting quest
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plus like if you overkill already (you do) why does 10% difference matter too

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all that to say sundered > exemplar is fine for LR even though it is a large personal dps loss

honest hill
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people go crazy for a .1% diff

drifting berry
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oh makes sense, since TT was assumed with signature her damage portion is significant enough

honest hill
granite fox
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We don't really have any true endgame content, you can clear everything with like lvl 60 stuff

honest hill
drifting berry
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idk, I need to have everything maxed out to compensate for skill issue

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genuinely just bad

granite fox
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I mean, yeah, I'm not saying you should do umbral with a lvl 60 team or that it'll be easy, just that it's possible

honest hill
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You can prob do it w lv 60 units only w specific teams but I ain't no masochist

drifting quest
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we're at the sweet spot, maybe slightly below, on difficulty for umbral right now so it should be pretty chill

honest hill
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there's some stages that I don't like in umbral wish they would improve at least

drifting quest
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depends on HG's approach to balancing it

drifting berry
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Later on I need to check a guide for Yvonne on the last stage of umbral, genuenly got no idea of how to kill that guy once he goes Enraged. everything else has been a breeze

granite fox
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Just dodge and hit it till it dies

honest hill
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ye it's easier for yvonne havers

granite fox
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ez

edgy crater
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just ange bs when 4 heat stack lol

honest hill
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everytime new umbral release now it makes me wanna build phys team even more

edgy crater
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easiest 4 corro

honest hill
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that stage 2 is the worst

drifting quest
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i had a ton of fun this umbral

drifting berry
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Stage 2 just feels bad because you have to actively stop whatever you are doing to break those things

drifting quest
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first umbral ive actually gone back to reclear with new teams on

drifting berry
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Took me like 4-5 min

honest hill
drifting berry
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oh yeah

honest hill
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I think that one is fine mechanically

fossil pendant
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lowkey just sac whoever gets bound and commit to killing them asap

granite fox
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What was stage 2?

honest hill
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should prob increase time to destroy chains

fossil pendant
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stage 2 was the flamethrower dudes

drifting berry
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The exploding slugs

honest hill
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the worst stage so far

edgy crater
lyric latch
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No perfect dodge

granite fox
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Oh yeah, not being able to perfect dodge sucked, but I didn't find it that hard

honest hill
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it wasn't even fun to do

drifting berry
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Was avoiding them like the plague thinking they explode immediately on contact, wasn't the case

drifting quest
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i found them to be engaging

edgy crater
honest hill
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I liked stage 1 mechanically, stage 3 was fun

terse valley
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do we have the files chat

drifting quest
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content before this umbral was just rotation simulator

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do the rotation clear the stage

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this umbral actually introduced a need to change rots on the fly a bit, adapt to the stage, etc

honest hill
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yeah but stage 2 for this umbral is so bad

drifting quest
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huge fan of it

honest hill
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everything else I liked

granite fox
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we don't need those here, thanks

drifting quest
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free boss

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would be funny in EF

honest hill
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I found 3-2 harder than 3-3

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and 3-1

drifting quest
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dps check mechanic

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none were hard really

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3-2 could be annoying at worst, the other 2 were pretty simple

honest hill
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it was more of where the slugs would spawn and flamethrower dudes spamming the same move constantly

drifting berry
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All jokes and fun until they add these mf. "Can attack friendly units upon arts infliction regardless of distance"

edgy crater
lyric latch
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next Umbral they should put both Rhada and Ruan in the same stage

honest hill
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it's still not fun regardless

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u can't tell me 3-2 was fun

edgy crater
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its easy stage anyway

granite fox
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I cleared all at the first try

edgy crater
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also the arsonist hp really low

honest hill
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see u cant even say it's fun

drifting quest
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i had fun

honest hill
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smh

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the other two were fun ig

drifting quest
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shocker i like content where i have to engage with it

drifting quest
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i can put forethought into where i do my sequencing to avoid slug explosion radiuses

honest hill
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it'll be even more fun when I have phys team

drifting berry
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Not touching Mino for a while, leaving that for once my Rossi is maxed out

edgy crater
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throw tang2

drifting quest
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i can choose to take damage to further the clear or back off to conserve hp

granite fox
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Imagine running phys

honest hill
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and pog was my first 6*

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I feel the need to build him

fossil pendant
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pog's got aura

honest hill
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plus he has double slide

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and ye aura

granite fox
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I mean, I could probably run a phys team as well, since I have Pog and the rest can be f2p I guess

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but meh, I prefer my cryo team

edgy crater
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or heck, u have ange, just use her lol

honest hill
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what does Lifeng even do for the team

drifting quest
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on mono phys?

honest hill
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ye

edgy crater
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everything

honest hill
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like wym

edgy crater
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support+ vuln generator+ xira holder

drifting quest
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susc, extra stacks, link, personal damage, sometimes xiranite

lyric latch
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vuln, phys susc, link

edgy crater
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oh yeah link too

honest hill
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so he's like hard to replace

drifting quest
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yesnt

lyric latch
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huh

drifting quest
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any unit can be replaced if HG forces it

edgy crater
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from other core? hes the easiest to replace

granite fox
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From what I've seen phys teams have a lot of options

drifting quest
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Lifeng is the easiest to replace right now because the other 3 slots do more important stuff, but replacements for lifeng are downgrades

honest hill
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I mean yeah but how much weaker than lifeng mono phys

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if u use gilb or ake

edgy crater
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the closest probably ake(?)

drifting quest
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gilb is quite literally a cosmetic unit if you put her over lifeng

honest hill
drifting quest
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closest is ember phys which is a ways behind

fossil pendant
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akekuri feels the closest in performance to me

drifting quest
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ake is below that

fossil pendant
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I've also played the ember slot in that team but that was before 1.1

edgy crater
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oh yeah ember PerliDerp

honest hill
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shuo do u know what it is % wise

drifting quest
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no because the teams play differently

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all we have as metric is general clear times / speedrun times

honest hill
drifting quest
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in which there's a sheer difference in quantity

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but ember stuff is a ways off in speedrun times

honest hill
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yeah that makes sense

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that's why I want to wait for lifeng

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then I build full phys

edgy crater
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shattered then

fossil pendant
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ember is also notably

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really fucking boring ngl

honest hill
fossil pendant
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thats why I ended up building lifeng instead in the end

edgy crater
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i have shattered team PerliFumo

honest hill
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whel

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I wish for selecting teams it be 10 instead of 5 and give all of em gear presets when u select that team PerliFumo

fossil pendant
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real

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manually swapping from full damage to uge set is annoying

drifting quest
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does someone have a link to the maint notice

honest hill
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uh no

honest hill
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idk any game that has it

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wuwa has echo loadouts and 10 teams or more but don't have the loadouts apply when u switch teams

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oh and weapons and essences too

lyric latch
drifting quest
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i do not have the game open

lyric latch
drifting quest
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thank you

noble tapir
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Do I care about the extra 2% amp on xaihi bs from m3...

honest hill
noble tapir
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more damage does equal good...

peak void
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is rossi good

thorn shore
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horrible!

peak void
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damn

inland quarry
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Does rossi sig look good for chen/phys? Most of it seems like it would apply, so depending on the numbers it could be good?

fossil pendant
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I mean it's not like impossible depending on the numbers they give us but if it's any significant amount of stacks I highly doubt chen has the hitcount to consistently proc the final effect

vapid flame
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don't think chen will crit enough for it to be worth

terse valley
drifting quest
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if either are mediocre, no

drifting quest
proud vector
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Oo so we can expect datamine to slowly trickle in now?

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PerliFumo finally

drifting quest
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no

proud vector
drifting quest
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update is in 1hour 10m

proud vector
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Lied to I was

drifting quest
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then it will require a dataminer to download the update, extract the files, read the files, find the relevant info, post said info

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then TC can begin

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so absolute earliest is that 1hr 10m, realistic earliest is about 1hr 30m

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it could simply be 2-3 hours

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which is about when rossi banner drops anyway

twilit quail
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frontier is in dmg% yes

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he is like 7% team dmg at most nowadays

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cause even if he has like 5k atk with new gear he doesnt have the multipliers or mechanics to actually deal dmg

young quartz
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hello how does food buff stacking work in this game?

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like would these 2 stack or overwrite each other?

drifting quest
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only one food buff can exist on a character at a time

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most recently eaten food is the one that takes effect

young quartz
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oh i see. thanks for the info

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didnt realize it divided into consumable and tactical

signal palm
main nova
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PerliWheeze man my sense of tine

drifting quest
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18m or so

icy remnant
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Needing to wait 3 days for all the tickets
And 2 days for NA

cinder oxide
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New files in 15

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But at least till tmr to get the numbers and atp it’s just better to look at in game descriptions

drifting quest
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it begins

proud vector
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the wait

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it finally begins

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imagine if the patch takes like 15 minutes and it just releases before any datamaining can be done LOL

drifting quest
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[Unverified] Rossi Sig Line 3, level 4:
||Attack +25.6%
Whenever the wielder scores a critical hit, gain 1 stack of Wolf's Blood.
Each Stack of Wolf's Blood increases Physical and Heat Damage by 1.6%. Max Stacks 16.
At Max Stacks increase damage by an additional 38.4% for 20s.
Lose all stacks when duration ends||

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Max Stack total buff = ||64%||

fossil pendant
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16 105_ICANT

fresh trench
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Wth

proud vector
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damn soo it forcibly resets you down to 0

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wild

fresh trench
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How wild?

fossil pendant
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monster hunter wild

drifting quest
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limbus cooooompany

proud vector
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but yeah hopefully her crit rate is goddamn high because

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having to hit 32 times for the buff on average on 50cr is funny

drifting quest
#

im doing rossi kit now

proud vector
#

its always got that little dot that lets you know someone got beaned lmao

fossil pendant
#

🫘

drifting quest
#

[Unverified] Rossi Details:
Attributes: ||Agi Int||
Talent 1: || 25s duration, does not stack. Damage Taken Debuff 12%. DoT 25% atk per second physical damage||
Talent 2: ||Additional 24% to DoT of heat damage. Restore [0.08xInt] HP. If Combusted multiply effects by 1.5x||

P1: ||BS and Combo x1.15. Return 10sp on Battle Skill Seq 2||
P2: ||+20 AGI, +7% CR||
P3: ||T2 increased base +8%,+0.04 to the HP restore multiplier.||
P4: ||Ultimate cost -15%||
P5: ||Ultimate x1.1. +30% CD.||

icy remnant
terse valley
#

OMG NUMBERS

icy remnant
#

Sounds like she’s gonna be kinda weak ngl but need kit details

drifting quest
#

[Unverified] Rossi Details Cont:
Basics:
||61/71/77/91/113. 900. 180||

Skill:
||192 + 288||

Ult:
||60% more CD||
||600 + 250 + 750||
||110 Cost||

Combo:
||25% CR, 50% CD||
||150 + 300, 180 more per stack consumed||
||15s duration on buff||

proud vector
#

PerliWheeze gilb was the way all along

drifting quest
#

waiting to verify against other sources

proud vector
#

all hail gilb

#

all hail

drifting quest
#

so take it with a grain of salt

fossil pendant
terse valley
#

||110|| cost we ball

fossil pendant
#

maybe combo has some kinda increased energy gen per infliction bejj

#

surely

drifting quest
#

||Not listed if it exists||

proud vector
#

||since its 2 parts and it seems to give energy for each part,,she might not need it tbf||

warped sorrel
#

||she really want crit i see||

terse valley
#

||so combustion doesnt seem necessary for ult?||

proud vector
#

Doesn't look like it unless talent 2 works differently than what i see

terse valley
#

||more heat DoT if combusted sounds whatever||

#

yeah looks like it's just bonus from like gil ult + rossi ult

proud vector
#

PerliWheeze gilbless rossi players in shambles

drifting quest
#

Physical / Heat Damage Amounts:
Basics : ||413% Phys (per string)||

Battle Skill: ||192% Phys / 288% Heat||

Combo Skill: ||450% Phys||

Ultimate: ||1600% Heat||

proud vector
#

well, maybe not

drifting quest
#

||14s cd on combo skill||

#

these have all been m3 values

terse valley
#

i believ

proud vector
#

PerliDerp ok but like the raw damage doesn't seem bad?

terse valley
#

||SIXTEEN HUNDRED MULTIPLIER?||

proud vector
#

thats just a LOT of raw damage no?

fossil pendant
#

seems pretty solid

icy remnant
#

Brute force

#

Wow

drifting quest
#

Lifeng is 1400% with conditional, Chen is 1500%

#

to compare to existing values

terse valley
#

BELIEVERS WE FUCKING WON

icy remnant
#

Strongest Ult in the game

#

Is there someone stronger?

proud vector
#

its also very costly which means you are doing a lot of battle skills i guess

#

technically LR i guess?

drifting quest
#

LR is 1800%, Yvonne is like 2400%

#

Laev is variable due to how it works

icy remnant
#

Yvonne doesn’t count

#

Okay LR 1800

proud vector
#

yvonne cheats because hers takes an eternity to finish lmao

icy remnant
icy remnant
#

Yea those aren’t fair comparisons

#

Laev also doesn’t count

proud vector
#

PerliWheeze anyways lmao its just a giga nuke
Which does mean the gilb style fits her better

drifting quest
fossil pendant
#

notably it's also on a character designed to build for crit

fossil pendant
#

so big numbers yahoo I guess

glass birch
icy remnant
#

It seems like she has a pretty even split between Phys and Heat

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou ||honestly 12% high uptime damage taken debuff is also kinda good||

icy remnant
#

Eminent Repute Endmin might be the way to go

drifting quest
icy remnant
#

Eminent Repute Endmin, Gilberta, Perlica maybe
PerliStare

glass birch
drifting quest
#

again dont get attached to this kit

#

its one source

proud vector
#

||her dot being what 24% +24% per second assuming you constantly crit the enemy with basics does add up to a very solid 480% over 10 seconds||

drifting quest
#

and obviously you should all be spoiler tagging

#

as per server rules

proud vector
#

o

#

yes mb

drifting quest
#

dont complain if you get banned

dry kindle
#

Is it 100 energy ult

icy remnant
#

Her biggest downside would be that she only attacks 1 enemy

drifting quest
glass birch
proud vector
#

BeanGamble gilb havers are b l e s s e d

dry kindle
icy remnant
#

Gilberta rerun when

dry kindle
proud vector
#

PerliDerp its highly likely that ||seq2 means combo skills give her 20 not 10 though total||

glass birch
#

And also her Combo should be able to hit multiple enemies if they're close. The first part literally passes you through the target so it can possibly multi hit

glass birch
proud vector
#

it does mean that she is a striker in all but name given how much she wants to hog sp then xD

icy remnant
#

That’s quite a lot of energy regen for the whole team

glass birch
#

||Her BS ticks Ult energy gain twice if she successfully lifts a target (They have vuln already) and Combo is always 2 ticks of ult energy instead of 1 ||

proud vector
#

but importantly we might be able to drop wulf and thats a blessin

drifting quest
#

combo skills are only for user

#

not the team

dry kindle
#

Inb4 5 energy combo

#

Arclight experience

drifting quest
#

||180% per infliction stack is pretty fat||

glass birch
#

If combust turns out to be pretty poor in practice then you can drop Wulf for Perl

proud vector
#

||.... damn its under a big crit multiplier too isn't it? urgh||

glass birch
drifting quest
#

||thats what 720% if you eat 4 stacks, or a whole 1170% multiplier on combo skill||

drifting quest
#

i think the pog team

glass birch
#

how much does LR gain per infliction?

drifting quest
#

should be the winner

#

looking at this

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rossi gilb pog flex

#

probably wulf, as the flex

proud vector
#

g i l b

#

aaaaaa

drifting quest
#

but its too early to tell for sure

glass birch
proud vector
#

can't argue with that given how much she helps but its pain for non-gilb havers

fossil pendant
#

is the p4 clannibal I didn't want useful now

glass birch
#

Phys and Arts dmg taken + Suscept is nice from ardelia

drifting quest
#

non gilb is prob just akekuri

icy remnant
#

Gilberta rerun when PerliDerp

drifting quest
#

and if you have akekuri you might be able to drop wulf for another buffer

proud vector
#

i'm sold

drifting quest
#

the stagger doesnt look terrible

glass birch
proud vector
#

pretty cheap LOL

fossil pendant
#

could have pog hold swordmancer in that team maybe if the breach is halved in value

glass birch
#

also yeah if the Pog team ends up being good you can likely just run the Combo Dmg% gear set on rossi and be just fine

icy remnant
#

Rossi Pog Akekuri who’s the last unit PerliStare
Default Wulf?

drifting quest
#

wulf until timelines are finalised a bit more

icy remnant
#

Oh yea there’s a lot of combo dmg% gear no one uses

green otter
#

Hi, wanna ask, what is rossi's possible teams i could make without gil?

proud vector
#

unknown yet

drifting quest
#

too early to say

icy remnant
#

There’s so much to test

#

She can use everyone

proud vector
#

hybrid unit being hybrid

glass birch
proud vector
#

literally most things help her somewhat

glass birch
#

focus on combo dmg

icy remnant
#

I still think Eminent repute Endmin might be good

green otter
glass birch
icy remnant
#

Her personal damage has pretty high numbers

#

Endmin is also a unit that buffs attack a lot though

#

Esp w Eminent repute

#

Attack buff benefits both heat and Phys

drifting quest
#

numbers are decent yeah

proud vector
#

a supportive crusher sounds wack

icy remnant
#

Pure dps is Da Pan

#

But yea I’m leaning towards eminent repute Endmin over Pog

#

More damage and Attack buff applies to both heat and Phys

terse valley
#

habadat

green otter
drifting quest
#

playing into her heat damage and ignoring the vuln stack seems viable too

cinder oxide
#

NUMBERS

ocean turret
terse valley
#

do you think stanza is better than starry for ardelia in rossi team?

cinder oxide
#

DO WE HAVE NUMBERS

drifting quest
#

yes

#

from 1 (one) source

#

so not verified yet

#

despite me saying it each time

#

i will be inevitably blamed if it changes

cinder oxide
#

I need Rossi pots and p0 sig asap

proud vector
cinder oxide
#

Just hit me

drifting quest
#

backscroll

#

they're all posted here

#

you can search my messages directly for time saving

glass birch
drifting quest
#

just again note

#

ONE SOURCE

#

NOT VERIFIED

fossil pendant
icy remnant
#

1hr 2 mins till Rossi banner

icy remnant
drifting quest
#

||14s for rossi, 15s for endmin||

ocean turret
#

Dapan will have higher crush than endmin this time because his originium crystals will be triggered too early

icy remnant
#

Just spam crush on Endmin non stop to keep attack buff up

#

He’s a supporter here so it’s all good

#

50sp refund every time too

green otter
drifting quest
#

if you want to know the neat thing

#

||Rossi Combo Seq1 will proc Endmin Combo which then will be eaten by Rossi Combo Seq2||

cinder oxide
#

I can’t find sig numbers

drifting quest
#

i posted them

cinder oxide
#

Yeah it’s all been spoilered so I can’t find it

drifting quest
#

just search

#

[unverified]

proud vector
#

PerliFumo oh hey eminent repute is on rossi weapon banner

icy remnant
#

Sig is pretty weak

drifting quest
#

i put that in each message

icy remnant
#

Like a 64% buff but it has higher attack than normal

#

Okay it’s not actually weak weak

timber harness
#

all that matters is if i can slap endmin with rossi

icy remnant
#

Cus most of her damage isn’t Ult

timber harness
#

otherwise she can go to hell

cinder oxide
icy remnant
#

Her damage is spread out

drifting quest
#

endmin rossi is viable yes

icy remnant
#

A lot

cinder oxide
#

Ts is not outpacing GM

drifting quest
#

its better than GM

icy remnant
#

I don’t see how Rossi can use GM that well

cinder oxide
#

Said 80% was conservative

cinder oxide
#

Which is main dmg no?

drifting quest
#

||ult isnt actually most of her damage profile||

cinder oxide
#

1.6k mult

proud vector
#

do dots crit

drifting quest
#

looking at numbers

icy remnant
drifting quest
#

there's 2 distinct ways to take rossi

icy remnant
#

You don’t really need to focus that much on Ult

drifting quest
#

which weapon you use depends on which you do

#

arts damage team? GM
physical team? sig

terse valley
#

whatever sure

cinder oxide
ocean turret
#

I think i can make endmin do 3stack originium crush

cinder oxide
#

That’d be like 225 each

glass birch
icy remnant
drifting quest
#

rossi combo caps out at just under ||1200%||

cinder oxide
proud vector
#

her combo skill ||works similarly to last rite - consuming inflictions increases the damage of it a bit||

ocean turret
#

But it will be so costly

drifting quest
#

||150 + 300% base
180% more per infliction stack
1170% max||

cinder oxide
#

Ahhhh

proud vector
#

oh speaking of

cinder oxide
#

Consumption mults

icy remnant
proud vector
#

this means tangtang technically works huh?

cinder oxide
#

Gotcha

proud vector
#

for that one guy who wanted tangtang rossi lmao

drifting quest
#

not for the phys variant

proud vector
#

probably not hah

terse valley
#

wait so is it worth doing extra infliction for the combo instead of using it for combustion from rossi ult

drifting quest
#

doesnt appear to be worth chasing combustion

proud vector
#

yeah combustion doesn't really....

terse valley
#

curious

proud vector
#

do much

vapid flame
#

perlica wild wanderer will finally shine

drifting quest
#

may still be worth doing a 4 corrosion stack

vapid flame
#

(jk)

drifting quest
#

and maintaining that

glass birch
drifting quest
#

but also not sure i would

green otter
#

Might wanna ask, is it worth on pulling on rossi's sig?

terse valley
#

ah but gil buff wont last for rossi ult

proud vector
#

dunno

#

come back later

drifting quest
#

there's an argument for like

proud vector
#

potentially battle pass weapon is better

drifting quest
#

dropping gilb too

terse valley
#

noooo

glass birch
icy remnant
#

Here’s the comp I think has a lot of potential depending on SP

Eminent Repute Endmin, Wulfgard, Ardelia, Rossi PerliStare

drifting quest
#

rossi wulf pog chen

#

or something

glass birch
#

If you want to play heat rossi you can use either

proud vector
#

c h e n

drifting quest
#

or rossi wulf chen endmin/dapan

green otter
glass birch
#

Yeah if you're trying to chase Phys Rossi and go Combo Damage focussed you'd want her Sig

terse valley
#

so we have
arts focused
phys focused
hybrid

drifting quest
#

ardelia stocks are very much back too, yes

glass birch
#

The BP doesnt do anything for phys focussed set ups

drifting quest
#

the more i think on it the less i think gilb is good

icy remnant
#

Rossi is gonna be pretty fun to see people experiment with while I don’t want to waste pulls PerliDerp

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou this is surprising to me given how big of a nuke her ult is

icy remnant
#

Maybe she will come in the free pulls

proud vector
#

but the ||cost of 110 is scary||

drifting quest
#

other units can buff the ult too

terse valley
drifting quest
#

while buffing her bigger damage shares

glass birch
drifting quest
glass birch
#

well; Her BS can tick twice if you lift a target.

terse valley
#

oh right his bs

drifting quest
#

and his combo

dry kindle
drifting quest
#

i am glad to inform you all

terse valley
#

i always forgot his bs can inflict kek

drifting quest
#

clannibal is NOT back

terse valley
#

i'm getting clannibal 🗣️

glass birch
ocean turret
#

Chen,perl,endmin, rossi.

Perlica bs before autos- chen bs- rossi bs- rossi cs-chen cs- endmin cs -endmin bs- rossi2nd cs

green otter
glass birch
#

Considering Combust doesnt look to be so good; you might want to run it

proud vector
#

obj might just be better

drifting quest
proud vector
#

for freeing up gear slots

glass birch
icy remnant
#

The only unit I see that’s just staying w Rossi is Eminent repute Endmin PerliStare
Just drag him along for every team as the giga attack buffer that also deals damage

glass birch
#

maybe

#

depends on how accurate the numbers are

drifting quest
#

unfortunately the other sources i would normally check are all

#

asleep or something

#

no posters

glass birch
#

Could be missing a whole 0 on the Talent 2 damage

#

which would make combust more worth while

sour gazelle
#

rossi gives jacob at 100%PerliFumo

#

but yazhen spray at 200%

glass birch
terse valley
#

left to right: arts, hybrid, physical
whats the verdict chat

proud vector
drifting quest
cinder oxide
#

Wait so is combo skill phys or heat

drifting quest
#

phys

glass birch
proud vector
drifting quest
#

all phys

terse valley
proud vector
#

so she has both a physical damage nuke and an arts damage nuke

drifting quest
#

battle is hybrid
talent is hybrid
combo is phys
ult is heat

proud vector
#

which is honestly kinda cool

green otter
terse valley
#

im kinda tired playing physical lmao

glass birch
#

Basic is phys
BS SEQ1 is phys
BS SEQ2 is Heat
BS SEQ2 Dot is Phys
Talent 2 is Heat
Combo SEQ 1 is Phys
Combo SEQ2 is Phys
Ult is Heat

ocean turret
terse valley
proud vector
#

sequence

glass birch
twilit quail
glass birch
#

Rossi's BS and Combo have 2 parts to them

#

The BS requires her SEQ1 to apply lift successfully for SEQ2 to happen while Combo is just always 2 parts

#

which means for her BS SEQ2 to go off you need to use BS on a target with a vuln stack already on them

terse valley
#

yeah physical team rossi seems expensive on SP

#

two BS to trigger rossi combo

#

and then doing rossi BS after

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou if start with ult you can Rossi ult to skip the infliction I guess?

#

Every time Rossi ults it skips one Wulf BS in theory

glass birch
#

Also that Combo buff of rossi's... Oh boy that looks sexy

open narwhal
#

uhhh, is she out?

open narwhal
#

asia?

drifting quest
#

no

icy remnant
#

40mins till Rossi

terse valley
#

but we have the voices telling us her kit

proud vector
#

Also

#

Quick swap out of her ult animation you reckon?

#

Or is it all freeze frame

terse valley
#

quickswapping eugh

proud vector
#

PerliDerp it’s a long lasting ult

#

Aaaa

terse valley
#

main rossi to build up crit stacks only to swap out for ult

dry kindle
#

He was forced to press q

terse valley
#

minmaxxer be like that

green otter
formal copper
#

Seems super SP hungry, needs some vanguard for SP regen for sure

terse valley
#

physical team needs 200sp to trigger rossi combo, while arts/hybrid team with gil can do with 100sp and a FS which is positive sp

fossil pendant
formal copper
#

The Asia server are the guinea pigs

#

We get to see what's what

terse valley
#

Man now i wish i bought eminent repute for endmin

terse valley
#

btw we still dont have the numbers on her sig?

drifting quest
#

looks like we have an additional unmentioned ||april fools event||

dry kindle
#

Should be

drifting quest
#

we have sig numbers

drifting quest
#

i posted

terse valley
#

or did i missed it

#

oh damn

#

||SIXTEEN STACKS??||

drifting quest
#

i burned all my sanity pots that expire today to try convert them into the permanent pots

#

but you can only have 10 permanent pots

#

so now i have like 600 sanity

fossil pendant
#

most sane endmin

formal copper
#

Negative sanity behavior

icy remnant
#

I’m saving the sanity vials

#

Till EoS

#

Too precious to use

drifting quest
#

i havent used any permanent ones yet

icy remnant
#

The sanity vials expire?

drifting quest
icy remnant
#

I’m talking about the stuff you use to store excess sanity

#

Gonna keep those forever

drifting quest
icy remnant
#

Ye

drifting quest
#

10 is the max stack

icy remnant
#

What

drifting quest
#

you cant hold more

icy remnant
#

Only if it’s filled right

drifting quest
#

i just made this mistake

#

yes

icy remnant
#

Yea I’m saving the unfilled ones

green otter
drifting quest
drifting quest
#

cant use the unfilled ones until i burn the filled ones

green otter
vapid flame
#

og AK had events where spending sanity was more worth, but feels like endfield design is to not have that kind of thing

drifting quest
#

different genre different rules

vapid flame
#

that being said, I haven't used the aurylene sanity pots lol

terse valley
#

switched out chen for endmin in the physical team as u dont actually need her to reach 4 vuln stacks

terse valley
#

and rossi combo can utilize endmin's crystal

icy remnant
#

Honestly

drifting quest
#

waiting 15m to verify rossi numbers are right

icy remnant
#

Akekuri probably works if you want Thermite cutter and she does Link

drifting quest
#

so i can go sleep

#

you cant link her combo skill damage

terse valley
icy remnant
#

Doesn’t consume it and that’s a good thing

vapid flame
drifting quest
#

combo skill is a bigger damage share if you do multiple of them

icy remnant
#

Pog doesn’t really do much

terse valley
#

no wait

terse valley
#

TEN MINUTES

icy remnant
#

I’ll slap in Rossis data here in 10mins I guess

terse valley
#

no wait rossi want to do bs before endmin crush

vapid flame
#

in video endmin cs pops up between rossi cs 1 and 2

icy remnant
open narwhal
#

not the limited one

drifting quest
#

just need someone to verify its the same as the datamine

#

then i can go sleep

open narwhal
#

nvm im late to the convo

icy remnant
vapid flame
#

feels bad to do 1 stack crush tho no?

icy remnant
#

It’s for the attack buff and the left over stacks get transferred to the next rotation

drifting quest
#

you want crystals to buff the main rossi combo nuke

terse valley
drifting quest
#

it should also get the attack buff in time

#

id hope

#

but that needs testing

#

it seems intended anyway so im assuming it works properly

icy remnant
#

The first rotation buffs the second rotation I guess

#

That should also be fine

teal pawn
#

surely I didn't do this for nothing

drifting quest
#

so

teal pawn
drifting quest
#

very early days

#

phys rossi? yeah run sig
arts rossi? prob run bp

icy remnant
#

Hybrid Rossi

drifting quest
#

true hybrid stuff still seems a bit cope

#

but would run sig

icy remnant
#

Endmin Wulf Rossi doesn’t really sound like it leans on anything

terse valley
#

this is way too tight for my comfort lmao

icy remnant
#

It’s attack buffing

#

That’s a very long rotation

terse valley
#

it's about 21s

#

three fs

#

FOUR MINUTES

icy remnant
#

Lmao

#

Time to see if I get her from free pulls

dawn patrol
#

rossi

#

just 3 minutes away

icy remnant
#

If I get her from free pulls I’ll still be running her BP though

#

I’m broke on Arsenals

drifting quest
#

Its 5am

#

I yearn for sleep

terse valley
#

stay strong shuo

teal pawn
#

longest 3 mins of my life

#

longest 2 mins of my life

#

...longest 1 min of my life

frosty zinc
#

wait for the flex channel spam 😄

formal copper
green otter
#

Its...

drifting quest
#

ok

#

can someone tell me

fierce nest
#

SHES HERE AAAAAA

drifting quest
#

if the datamine was true

#

so i can go sleep

green otter
#

Time

icy remnant
#

Here

terse valley
drifting quest
#

ok it was right

terse valley
#

oh nvm im late

#

ok gn shuo

drifting quest
#

have fun good luck with pulls

outer ermine
#

13hrs left PerliWaaaaa

terse valley
#

oh thats p3 pog

#

Man

proud vector
#

oh so 24% (36%) bonus mult on every crit

#

how many hits does part 1 of ult do?

#

cuz this might add up lmao

glass birch
drifting quest
glass birch
# terse valley

so 24% of lets say 5k atk on the low end; thats like 1,200 damage per crit 3sChiakiHmm

drifting quest
#

1600% is total base mult

proud vector
# drifting quest 600%

PerliDerp number of hits for talent 2 maths, since it seems to be an on hit proc not some kind of DoT

#

will probablu need testing

drifting quest
#

Its per second

main nova
formal copper
#

More hits = more crit hits = more talent 2 procs?

drifting quest
#

Whatever the atk% is

#

Its that each second

proud vector
drifting quest
#

It lasts 15 or 25s idr which

green otter
#

2 ard dupe,1 lr dupe...

main nova
#

oh well at least physical has dps now

drifting quest
#

So just multiply the mult by the length

proud vector
glass birch
proud vector
#

is this not how it works the way i think

main nova
#

get out of my cute team lifeng

glass birch
#

not a dot

drifting quest
#

My bad