#theorycrafting

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frozen tide
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Repute does seem pre good on pog

edgy crater
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hmm we got rossie intro on the page now

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so tomorrow should be her kit details Thonk

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or probably her sig

summer narwhal
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Worth Artificing?

edgy elk
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Nice 15

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Can’t believe all that for half a second PerliWheeze

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Still tho u broke 15 gg

edgy crater
outer ermine
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PerliWaaaaa not enuf yvonne can 15.55

manic blade
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Tt sweg tho

outer ermine
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forgor to save vid on my phone

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but same sequence, just w lr midair fs

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and xai control

river scroll
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why sub dps tt go all in bs only?

peak void
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most her dmg is bs

river scroll
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what about the ult?

peak void
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eh

proud vector
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All water sprouts scale from battle skill bonuses

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Even the ones generated by ultimate

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They are a considerable percentage of her damage

river scroll
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i see... thx

proud vector
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And since battle skill lines are like pretty big

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40%? Compared to like 20%? Of elemental lines

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PerliWheeze it goes pretty hard

fresh trench
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ok so i will start here,i wont be doing it but this is for theory,ardelia solo triangalos trim is it possible? i believed so,triangalos have less hp and for 4 minutes she might be able to pull it off,she can deal with second phase easily with her ut,she might even be eaiser horde clearing than last rite(cause forgiving positioning),problem is stagger,even with last rite its hard to stagger it out of second phase,ardelia deal even less stagger for her final hit,i dont even think she can stagger it out,after that,WE BALLS

edit:sorry last rite i main,i will change wording a bit

peak void
proud vector
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Deleting the adds quickly might be good at least

river scroll
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but LR don't clear mobs. she cancel that phase

proud vector
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You do have like 4 minutes

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Koko is doing Ardelia solo like a mad person so

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Normal conventions do not apply

fresh trench
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with ult food buff she might be bale to use ult 5 times in 4 minutes

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this is funny

fresh trench
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atleast in solo video i saw

proud vector
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You can skip second stage I believe, there is a small window where the boss is vulnerable and before it goes and spawns adds

Stagger specifically there maybe? If not just straight burst to skip phase

outer ermine
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she xan just oneshot mobs w ult

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hit mid, pull left to right since theyre stationary

fresh trench
proud vector
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Ardelia? No probably not lol

fresh trench
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that theory for next week this week we farm meats

outer ermine
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PerliWheeze instead of dorito do rhod again but blindfolded

fresh trench
fresh trench
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i not gonna do marble or ruan yi tho,im tired 😭

noble tapir
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If I switch Chen to Yinglung, should I be swapping pog to swordmancer instead of hotworks, or is it whatever?

fossil pendant
sour kestrel
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Almost finished Chen's build, anything worth changing in particular?

neon knot
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does Tangtang subdps need some ult energy gain on her chest?

heady pine
sour kestrel
heady pine
sour kestrel
edgy elk
heady pine
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but even at p5 glorious memory its only a 10% diff roughly

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i'd just keep what you have

sour kestrel
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oh wait... Protocolized Weapon Pattern counts for this weapon?

neon knot
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yeah you should be able to use these to uncap

sour kestrel
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MORE CHEN

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MORE POWAR

neon knot
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im gonna horde until we get a disgusting bp weapon lol

icy remnant
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Wait this is a bullshit Laev buff

dry kindle
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Oh right umbral

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Wah

icy remnant
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Oh wow

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Perfect dodges are disabled for agony

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Interesting they're trying new stuff

gritty briar
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catcher stocks rising

noble tapir
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Haven't played laev in a bit, guess I'm busting her out for this lol

icy remnant
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She destroyed first stage as well agony

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The set up is good for her cus AoE

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Every enemy also now has resistance which means her res ignore is better % wise

noble tapir
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I mean it's laev, she probably can do well vs. all the stages

icy remnant
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Usually Phys performs better

noble tapir
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That's true

icy remnant
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This one is different cus enemies spawn in so you can't have time to apply Vuln on every enemy

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And they're elites so not fodder

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Laev just activated Ult and sweeps

dry kindle
icy remnant
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You get hit now even when you dodge as long as you're in the aoe

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And you can't spam dodge in the flame throwers

dry kindle
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Yeah so dodge faster and get out 🗿

icy remnant
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Well it's shielder stocks or simply playing around it ye

dry kindle
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Or yk

icy remnant
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Ember will probably love this

dry kindle
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1 shot

icy remnant
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Lemme see if I can 1 shot w Phys

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Oh my god

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My team mates got nuked

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AI also can't dodge

dry kindle
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Nevermind

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It's fucked

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Laev solo go

icy remnant
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It's not exactly a hard stage overall if you play around it

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But it's funny

peak void
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what

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new umbral stage 2 condition is

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you cant perfect dodge ICANT

icy remnant
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Shielders actually being useful now

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Sustainless Phys got cooked

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Not being able to heal means AI team mates just die

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I mean you can solo it but lmao

outer ermine
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PerliStareYou no perfect dodge

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speedrun buff

icy remnant
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They deal alot of damage

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Speed run death

peak void
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jfc my endmin died

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still cleared but wow

icy remnant
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Only one that can avoid damage is the controlled operator

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Unless you have some sort of team shield

peak void
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u can also avoid dmg with other ops

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just go really far

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and pray they follow u

icy remnant
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Lol

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Okay Laev clears all 3 pretty easily
2nd stage you need to just chill and run away until you’re ready though PerliWheeze

frozen tide
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What's the best team to build to do stuff without paying any attention

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I wanna play with the game minimized on the corner

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Doing other stuff mostly

dry kindle
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@frigid vector tap in

heady pine
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spam auto atks

frozen tide
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I do have laev cause i lost gilb 50 50 to her

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🤔

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Don't have her sig unfortunately

icy remnant
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Her BP is pretty good imo

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If duped

frozen tide
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For btk spamming forgeborn would be a lot better right

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Ig it doesn't rly matter

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Since im just looking for afk clears

heady pine
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It doesn’t matter yeah

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Just hold m1 and you’ll clear anything that’s not a boss

dry kindle
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If it's just for farm stages you can just 1 cycle everything pretty sure

frozen tide
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Where i don't need to dodge or pay attention to anything

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And just click buttons

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Ideally no heal items needed either

dry kindle
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Bruhe

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What are you fuckin macroing alluviums

icy remnant
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Alluviums are afk lmao

shrewd saffron
icy remnant
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I enjoyed this umbral PerliStare
Not a DPS check and not brainless
Won't clear if you just tried to speed run it
But still need more content cus that's my 15mins for the month done

frozen tide
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Like dailies

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Weeklies

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Events

icy remnant
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The best team is just Phys

frozen tide
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Sanity spendings

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New boss

icy remnant
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It's not afk just clear everything in 4 buttons

dry kindle
frozen tide
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I think I'll try laev ember

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Wait

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Tt ember gilb xaihi(heal build)

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I alr have built tt gilb xaihi

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This should work

icy remnant
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Wait I just realised for stage 2

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Man the devs really love Phys

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I just kited them using Laev team

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Stage 2 should be built for Ember Phys team

ocean turret
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nicee my ember will shine

sturdy hill
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hi does this umbral contains a shit ton of damage

rotund garnet
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helo do we have some kind of compendium on which masteries are worth upgrading for which characters?

civic wolf
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Yvonne Mastery prio?

inland quarry
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You can check ingame now, and iirc there was a reddit post

sterile moat
civic wolf
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why the hell is Endfield so primitive the game doesn't even have a retry button for umbral

river scroll
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it have

civic wolf
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oh

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i have to press P instead of Esc

frozen tide
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😭

outer ermine
terse valley
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woke up from a dream of pulling rossi and theorycrafting her team and build it might be over for me folks

civic wolf
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well that was easy

sour gazelle
civic wolf
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Da Pan or Endmin for phys team? Grand Vision on Endmin, Ancient Canal on Da Pan

peak void
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theyre like sidegrade rn

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just choose which playstyle u like more

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endmin is tighter on sp but u can shift the crush forward or backward

civic wolf
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regardless of varient, Chen is a main DPS in both right

peak void
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chen is a subdps

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really good one

civic wolf
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yaeh but i thought its like, Chen and Endmin/Da Pan that deals the most damage?

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or does Pog/Lifeng deal a lot of damage too

peak void
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okay but u dont ctrl chen unless ur some filthy quickswapper

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thats why theyre just sub

rare zodiac
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nah not the jab for qs enthusiasm

peak void
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i like a little friction even if i actually have no problem with it lol

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quickswap all u want but the point is, mdps is who u pilot, not based on dmg distribution

rare zodiac
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mdps is who deal the most dmg, who you pilot is just the driver of the team

peak void
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first time i hear this driver term

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needless to say we are also saying completely opposite things

civic wolf
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oh my god im instantl broke again on T-Creds

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from doing a lvl80 to 90 weapon because i got so much weapon mats

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this is so stupid

peak void
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80-90 of anything is like the last thing i do for that exact reason

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its so expensive but it doesnt feel like it until u press the button

inland quarry
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Main dps should be based on dmg distribution no? You don't always onfield them, though you often do

remote fern
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Do you think it’s possible to predict weapon essence stats based on the characters background and what manufacturer would most likely produce it?

civic wolf
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with the weapon exp mat

outer ermine
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PerliChaos xai mdps

peak void
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its not a matter of the weapon exp mat

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those are always in abundance

remote fern
peak void
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i have 500 myself stocked up and doing nothing

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its more of, id rather spend the tcreds on skill masteries first

civic wolf
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just Hoyo trauma

peak void
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bro is still healing

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let go of your ex smh

rare zodiac
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not like anybody use clan PerliWheeze

civic wolf
remote fern
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I think it’s interesting the best/(kinda only) place to farm Twilight essences is in Wuling City

peak void
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my tangtang use clan cus i cant pull sig PerliDerp

peak void
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just for dmg

rare zodiac
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just a stat stick

peak void
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its still main atr + arts dmg

civic wolf
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but yeah im currrenlty out of weapon mats so

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yeah i dont think it isn't impossible to use up all your exp and leveling mats

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you kinda just have to accept you're gonna grind

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a lot of T-Creds

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just to be able to use your mastery + weap exp + char exp in the first place

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which is stupid

peak void
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the two bottlenecks in the game are tcreds and essence

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artifice technically but its kinda wtvr

civic wolf
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havent been workng on essences that much cuz of this

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😔

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but i do have a maxed essence Laventain sig so its whatever

peak void
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im boutta max my 3rd essence

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2 sides of the same coin

remote fern
civic wolf
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they pulled an anti laval for 3rd stage big shocker

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basically if you dont remove the self inflicted heat stacks building up the best

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boss

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they will punch you hard

remote fern
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I like using Leava with Gilberta, popping Gilbert’s ult and then poppinging Leava ult charged battle skill

rare zodiac
remote fern
rare zodiac
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yeah so what is the heat stacking problem?

civic wolf
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and i think ti stops working until you use up your stacks?

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the boss disables your SP regen

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on that phase

remote fern
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How is Chen Sig? I’ve seen a lot of people use 5 star over her 6 star Sig?

civic wolf
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oh come on

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Clannibal for this week's 6* rotaiton?

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really

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i got like 3 of those already bro

rare zodiac
civic wolf
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agony mode?

dense widget
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but i'd not look for it

icy remnant
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Everything points to just using your Clannibal dupe

rare zodiac
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maybe my Lae is just too vertically invested

remote fern
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Do you think we’re getting new gear in 1.3 as it seems very unlikely for 1.2?

rare zodiac
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hope so, it's so dry rn

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nothing much to cook

shrewd saffron
remote fern
rare zodiac
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i have full enssence OBJ gun, you know how bored i'm right?

remote fern
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1.1 has the new gear

rare zodiac
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well not really full just the UGE but still match all stat

woven cradle
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Do dmg vs staggered and phys dmg buffs oversaturate each other or are they on different parts of dmg calc

odd wren
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Lul i almost died there missed some sp xd

woven cradle
terse raptor
cinder oxide
odd wren
odd wren
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Solidification lol

terse raptor
woven cradle
cinder oxide
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Solidification is so clutch

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I’m thinking about going back in with normal cryo premium BUT having xaihi on lynx

woven cradle
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Endfield only has asia and global right

cinder oxide
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Also noticed that if you react the heat stacks at 3 you can stop him from combusting all over your team

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Don’t let him get 4 stacks and he won’t combust all over the squad

odd wren
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Yeah

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Must be patient

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On the sp usage

elder skiff
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idk about lr and yvonne though they don’t get that much time to consume cryo stacks

terse valley
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so is the first stage like impossible to solo?

icy remnant
terse valley
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uh the insta-killing undodgable unparriable chain?

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...CAN you dodge that?

icy remnant
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They only ever did that to team mates for me
I assume it won’t be on the active operator

terse valley
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they absolutely can

icy remnant
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I guess you can throw in another unit you never use and solo it by using that as a sacrifice

signal sundial
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Oh shit content

woven cradle
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Was just looking at my sundered prince giving such a low attack number, is crit rate just THAT bad compared to attack

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Because it's an added 0.185 chance for a 50% more dmg while attack (L) would be 38% more dmg, that's like quadruple the actual increase

terse valley
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What are you playing

ocean turret
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dang im crying i dont know how to deal with stage 3

terse raptor
ocean turret
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ember team hehe

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my team aint surviving

terse raptor
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endmin chen pog ember?

ocean turret
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yeeh

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ember leadHAHAHHA

terse raptor
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replace ember with estella

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every time heat infliction has 3 stack, just use estella bs

ocean turret
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if i have enough sp RossiCopium

terse raptor
ocean turret
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but ill try it

terse raptor
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good luck mate

woven cradle
# terse valley What are you playing

Me? Just a funny basic attack ember build, but that'd be a problem on any character besides a crit focused claymore user, and even there you could argue an ATK up (L) would outperform

dawn patrol
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what's wrong with the new umbral stage 2 dude

ocean turret
terse raptor
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she's not there for damage

ocean turret
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they remove perfect dodge there

ocean turret
terse raptor
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yeah

dawn patrol
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not even hard just annoying

terse valley
icy remnant
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I like the design of new Umbral

dawn patrol
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new umbral sucks

woven cradle
ocean turret
terse raptor
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full ult gain

terse valley
ocean turret
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he always dodge my pog's skillRossiCopium

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oh w8 i cant do perfect dodge

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im not sure if i can survive

terse valley
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thats the second stage

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u want an easy way to apply vuln

ocean turret
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pls dont die estella

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bro how can i get sppppppppppppp

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its not enoughRossiCopium

terse valley
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what are you DOING

dawn patrol
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this umbral sucks dude it's not even hard just crazy annoying

ocean turret
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stage 3

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using endmin,chen,estalla pog

odd wren
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Estella makes it easier

terse valley
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just keep having minimum 2 sp before he's enraged
and when he's enraged use those sp to consume heat stack when it's at 3 stacks

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dont spend all your sp tryina do dps maxxing this is Umbral

ocean turret
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okay okay ill do my bestICANT

rare zodiac
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just play like normal until he is red? focus on not let heat rise when he is red, resume attacking like normal after he unred himself?

ocean turret
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estella bs only

terse valley
woven cradle
terse valley
terse raptor
terse valley
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yeah this is infinitely better

ocean turret
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i really need to calm downPerliWheeze i need to practie dodging

rare zodiac
terse raptor
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the gimmicks makes me wrack my brain and think on how should i beat it, rather than just investing more and brute forcing

woven cradle
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They're actually doing awesome at making tactically/mechanically difficult stages

ocean turret
terse valley
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Me when I have to interact with the game PerliDerp

ocean turret
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my chen used to be on my 3rd slot

dawn patrol
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me when the game is just a waiting sim

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glazers be glazing ig

ocean turret
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now that estella on my 3rd slot, i accidentally uses her bs instead of chen'sRossiCopium

terse valley
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bro said "This gacha game has gacha mechanic"

ocean turret
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i havent reached the red phase yet and i already repeat the stage dozens of timee

terse raptor
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phys team is kinda weak for the last stage

ocean turret
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i can see thatRossiCopium

dawn patrol
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bro misconstrued what i said for fun icant

ocean turret
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getting missiled while lifted is the worst feelingPerliDerp

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i missed 10 sp, no estella bs

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everyone died

icy remnant
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I assume they’re experimenting and collecting data from these as well before committing to an endgame mode like CC

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Like which difficulty knobs are worth how much based on how many people die PerliWheeze

fathom lodge
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guys, what do you tink about rossi? is she an upgrade to physical team?

terse valley
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rossi is probably her own team

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unless her numbers proven otherwise, iont think physical team benefits much from having rossi

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what current physical team need rn is a dedicated physical support or a stronger vuln consumer

fathom lodge
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so more of an hybrid heat/phys?

fathom lodge
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as in support

terse valley
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im not saying current physical team isn't good

fathom lodge
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idk, it feels strong atm but it feels incomplete

terse valley
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it's very strong in fact, seeing from the past two umbral

fathom lodge
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maybe bc its not like the traditional teamcomp

terse valley
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rn it's leaning to a duo dps team compared to other hypercarry teams

unique jungle
terse valley
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dont need to remove dodges in 3rd stage if people cant dodge in the first place ICANT

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/j

icy remnant
terse valley
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atp what even is physical team anymore

icy remnant
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Thus no, Rossi won’t be part of the Phys team
Rossi team is just Rossi team

ocean turret
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rossi is made to be a hybrid team

frigid vector
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if it's just perfect dodging it's w/e but if it's any dodging it'll be interesting

terse valley
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it's just no i-frames on dodges

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idk if u can parry the explosive sludges

rare zodiac
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cool debuff

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wish there is more

frigid vector
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I kinda vibe with these creative restrictions

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keeps things fresh

terse raptor
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more gimmicks please POGranichnik

rare zodiac
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you know the dude at stage 3 have sp restriction when go red? i chunk 80% of his hp before red so i don't even noticed PerliWheeze

ocean turret
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i think i should replace chen with emberRossiCopium

chilly bolt
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Pls tell me

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Im having skill issue

terse raptor
ocean turret
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it wont hurt to try

terse raptor
rare zodiac
ocean turret
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i almost had him

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dang it

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i reached 40% on ember instead of chen lmao

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I DID IT

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EMBER WINSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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only estella died thoRossiCopium

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i mean shes lvl 60 so makes sense

honest hill
rare zodiac
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congrats

honest hill
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Easy fix

ocean turret
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endin at 1% hpICANT

icy remnant
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Interesting that this Umbral actually managed to make people try PerliStare

rare zodiac
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that a good step imo

ocean turret
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i guess physical still works

icy remnant
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Phys is still the best team in the game

rare zodiac
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hope it make that we can have point system and can choose debuff

ocean turret
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if cant dodge, use heal ember

icy remnant
terse raptor
honest hill
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umbral ain't even endgame, it's just full of gimmicks

icy remnant
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Umbral is basically a recurring combat event

honest hill
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Yeah

icy remnant
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I think they described it as that too

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The rewards are the same as delver of the cryptic too

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The other recurring event

ocean turret
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the combustion makes me nervous. endmin is on lifelinePerliWheeze

fierce nest
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mage tower endgame

rare zodiac
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a win is a win no matter how you achieve it PerliWheeze

icy remnant
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I got my win on stage 2 by kiting it with Laev and then one shotting both once I got my ult

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Probably how I assume it was meant to be fought by melees

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And if not using freeze or Phys

fierce nest
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stage 2 was fun with phys, kinda like a safety dance lol

icy remnant
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I wonder if Ember can brute force stage 2

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Probably

ocean turret
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extend the status chain on stage 2

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thats all i can say

icy remnant
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But yea toggles like these like no perfect dodge means defenders will have value in endgame

ocean turret
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after using ember bs, i let him down abit, then us cs, wait a little, chen bs, wait again. something like that

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but the snails

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yeah i can only run

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defenders are shining alot in this umbral

still sequoia
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Should I shift to jingcao tea

ocean turret
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every dps check teams got destroyedRossiCopium

rare zodiac
chilly bolt
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Wow so replacing wulf with perlica worked for me

ocean turret
chilly bolt
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Too me 30mins to realize this unit sucks

rare zodiac
honest hill
rare zodiac
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per is godlike at clearing excess heat

chilly bolt
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No it's wulf adding too many heat stacks

chilly bolt
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I cant clear them all

still sequoia
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do u guys have a team for pog cough 😭

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the pins r frying me

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I don't want to check them anymorw

chilly bolt
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Man gave up reading the pins docs

ocean turret
rare zodiac
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iana doc

ocean turret
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the whut

ocean turret
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oh that?

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oke

ocean turret
rare zodiac
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i mean there is only 1 doc in pin PerliWheeze

still sequoia
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whatever goes wit chen n endmin

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I'm doing physical

ocean turret
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do you have lifeng?

still sequoia
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No...

ocean turret
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nvm

still sequoia
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Ember temp?

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I have enough resources

twilit quail
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ember usable after 1.1

twilit quail
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with the new gear

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she can do something

ocean turret
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another ember user rahhhh

still sequoia
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so what's the gear for pog with ember

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All I need

twilit quail
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just need to get hit on purpose the moment combo is off cd

still sequoia
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Also weapons

rare zodiac
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intensity maxxing for pog

ocean turret
rare zodiac
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Hot Work?

still sequoia
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for both?

twilit quail
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just read the document and replace lifeng slot

ocean turret
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yes

still sequoia
rare zodiac
still sequoia
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I'm on a perfectly stable n good device

ocean turret
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use art intensity gear with higher will stat

still sequoia
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also that doc fried my brain (a friend screenshared it to me)

still sequoia
ocean turret
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its on hot work gear

still sequoia
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specify

ocean turret
#

the 3/3 bonus dont matter yet if your wanna use pog

still sequoia
#

how about ember

ocean turret
still sequoia
#

does she even heal

rare zodiac
#

go for 25k hp Ember

still sequoia
#

what

#

how.

rare zodiac
#

she do heal and shield

#

be the thickest of em all

#

it would be nice to have her sig

#

that shield is juicy

still sequoia
#

what if I don't...

#

☹️

ocean turret
#

Heres my pog

#

Heres my heal ember

#

but for trimming bosses, i use ember dps lead using swordmancer

rare zodiac
ocean turret
still sequoia
#

BRO WHAT

#

I don't even have a six star weapon that fits with her

ocean turret
#

or maybe treatment bonus only applies if shes not leadPerlithonk

ocean turret
still sequoia
#

Is trust mandatory

ocean turret
#

finishing call for heal

still sequoia
#

ok cuh

ocean turret
#

for pog yeah breach

rare zodiac
ocean turret
#

it doesnt have cd?

#

i havent read it

#

if not thats insane then

#

cause i only have 7k on ember

rare zodiac
#

nah it is for fun, shield from ult only 10s

ocean turret
#

yeah just 7.4k

#

i think your ember will do fine

#

i used final reduction because im using sundered princeRossiCopium ill die immediately even if im using hp bonus

rare zodiac
#

you will find the Sig shield more reliable

ocean turret
rare zodiac
#

not as big but still 4k with 15s duration and 15s cd

ocean turret
#

its funny when i used frontiers pog on 3rdstage. the dmg is so lowRossiCopium

chilly bolt
#

Stanza in shop again PerliStareYou

ocean turret
#

time to buyy

chilly bolt
#

Idk if it's even worth

#

Arsenal is scarce enough

#

Well it's just 400...

ocean turret
#

ill wait till rossi

warm galleon
#

Remind me that my stamina/sanity stuffs expires a day after Rossi banner release like 20+ of them PerliWheeze

glass wind
#

Should I refine Stanza? Theyre selling 1 right now on the Weekly

icy remnant
#

If you’re not speed running I wouldn’t bother

dusk isle
#

Does arclight force electrification equal to the lv of stacks she consume ? (Or alesh in the same sense)

glass wind
icy remnant
#

I dont see it ever being optimal to use 2 in the same party

glass wind
#

I said party not operator

icy remnant
#

Ah

#

Well you can just swap weapons

#

It’s a 5 star weapon and it appears in the daily shop too if they ever lock that out and we need multiple teams

glass wind
#

I'll just leave it for now

smoky quarry
#

I'd actually call it convert for clarity

dusk isle
#

Alr thanks thats what i knew as well

jovial pasture
#

What in your opinion makes 6-star character special in Arknights over a 5 star or 4 star? Are they really that different?

Dear Theorycrafters, before you toss eggs at me for such as silly question hear me out....
A friend of mine named Shiomi recently asked this question while trying Arknights Endfield for the first time. Naturally the most basic answer is that its the gatcha rarity. 6 star are the hardest to get your first copy of. However, many of you have written wondeful guides that show that even 4-stars like Akekuri or Flourite can be better than picking a six star for the sake of the team composition. Certain five stars like Xaihi, Perlica, Chen, Showshine are required if you want the six star you have to do any damage--without the right 5-star character certain six stars can be useless.
*So then what really is a six star from a theory crafting standpoint? * This is kind of wanted a expert opinion on this basic question, to see if there is a deeper meaning to the rarity system. Or if its just a silly wonky system

smoky quarry
#

First of all, they do something special. 5 stars (and especially 4 stars) are usually designed to be primitive and simple

#

That's main difference imo

jovial pasture
#

Ok so more complexity. Would you then consider them to be like a central building block of the theory crafting? Like a base or foundation?

smoky quarry
#

They will be in future, cause eventually we'll have more 6 stars than anyone else, considering operator release strategy

#

Actually, most of teams circle around legendaries now

signal sundial
#

Going by og arknights vibes, 6* are operators that specialize in doing 1 thing really well that no other operator can compete (for the most part anyway)

#

I don't think it translates really well to endfield, but maybe you can think of it that way

ember osprey
#

Yo whats better for main dps tang tang, full bone crush build or a msi load out(the ones with battle skill dmg+)?

Saw a yt vid that MSI was better through their own script/calculations

signal sundial
#

But it's quite hard to apply this kind of generalization to endfield considering everyone is uniquely different

jovial pasture
smoky quarry
#

and free atk%

jovial pasture
signal sundial
#

Electric DPS is the only odd one out in that the main DPS is 5*

#

But you can tell she's 5* quality because she lacks an active counter for spears PerliWheeze

smoky quarry
terse valley
jovial pasture
terse valley
#

they both fill the roles of cryo consuming single target main dps

smoky quarry
#

It's like saying that akekuri and arclight are the same

signal sundial
#

I think realistically

terse valley
#

how come?

signal sundial
#

6* will be as complex or as simple as hypergryph wants it to be

#

I can see ardelia being 5* if she wasn't literally the cute sheep girl

smoky quarry
# terse valley how come?

They build differently, they have different gameplay, rotations and use scenarios. You can't replace one with another if you wanted something specific

smoky quarry
main nova
#

imagine... Rossie replace wulf RossiCopium

jovial pasture
smoky quarry
smoky quarry
signal sundial
smoky quarry
signal sundial
#

Real

smoky quarry
#

she wheelchaires her whole team

signal sundial
#

When I switched from avyw to laeva I felt my IQ drop by 1 point per combo sequence

rich linden
#

Is tangtang dps real? (For yvonne-less accounts)

signal sundial
#

It's a whole new world for me what do you mean my damage spike can't miss

rich linden
signal sundial
smoky quarry
#

60k tangtang dps team
~80k lr/yv+tt team

terse valley
#

kinda regret not picking last rite from the selector PerliDerp

smoky quarry
rich linden
woven drift
#

Do you think Navigator is better for Yvonne than her sig weapon?

#

Asking cause I have a pot5 navigator in my bag and wondering if yvonne sig is worth pulling for

smoky quarry
#

Considering you already invested into navigator? Save yourself tokens

drifting quest
#

^^

#

its not better but there's not much point in you chasing it now you have p5 navi

main nova
#

i wont cope dps with non sign weapon, but a support? might be PerliWheeze

glass wind
#

I finally have 1 BP weapon

#

Anyone owns Glorious Memory?

smoky quarry
glass wind
smoky quarry
#

1 copy from procol pass, 2 upgrade cases from previous bp, 2 upgrade cases from current bp

glass wind
#

Do you mean the crates?

#

The previous crates from 1.0 dont have Glorious Memory.

#

Oh this thing

#

I should had taken the 1.0 one

honest hill
glass wind
#

Oh this weapon has 3 stacks. I havent notice

honest hill
#

u get two from each protocol customised

signal sundial
edgy elk
signal sundial
#

STUPID WIZARD SHEEP

edgy elk
#

all arknights newcomers thinking dolly's just ardelia's pet-
🫠

honest hill
#

I hate having to wait for umbral this long when asia alr have it

edgy elk
#

-# ardelia is dolly's pet.

edgy elk
honest hill
#

yep

#

so dumb

edgy elk
#

eh it'll just be 10 minutes of content i guess

honest hill
#

ig

edgy elk
#

every umbral is ember stonks rise

smoky quarry
edgy elk
#

umbral over ember stonks 🥀

edgy elk
#

that's like, 20 days worth of shop rng

smoky quarry
#

actually, you are very lucky to get one pull in a month from shop

open narwhal
edgy elk
#

PerliStare im lucky?

#

no wonder my pulls are ass
i'm wasting my luck on shop refresh rng

open narwhal
#

i meant thats 500/20 = 25 day assuming u getting 20 oro a day

#

for a only a month

#

yes that is considered lucky

edgy elk
#

if only i could be lucky enough to win my 50/50
instead i got an ember

#

just before umbral. it must be a sign

woven cradle
dusk isle
edgy elk
#

then hit tt

#

then lost another two 50/50s straight

#

one sheep one ember this banner's hyping me up for umbral or smth

dusk isle
#

66.6% of my 50 50s are lost to ember+ardel
And i have lost 82% of my 50 50s ICANTsns

main nova
#

i meant i dont mind lose to ardel

#

or last rite

edgy elk
#

ardel
last rite

are two completely different concepts when it comes to potentials 😭

main nova
#

but other than that 2. mmmmyeah

dusk isle
#

I have not lost a 50 50 to last rite, pog, or lifeng yet so i dont want to lose to ember/ardel again PerliFumo

edgy elk
#

lil miss dolly's potentials 2-4 are all healing PerliDerp
unless ur building her dps for p3's +1 second of ult

edgy elk
#

having been terrorized by dolly, we now have the luxury to sicc him on our enemies.

it's a good day in hell

woven drift
edgy elk
#

we bled to him.
we bled for him.
now we will bleed others in his name.

edgy elk
woven drift
#

It's not even pink

edgy elk
#

what's cuter than a pink murder goddess
ardelia herself is pink enough. u need an analogous color (i.e. purple) for her color scheme PerliFumo

woven drift
#

Dolly doesn't understand color theory

#

Dolly understands pink

edgy elk
#

neither do i/ that's why i looked it up

woven drift
#

Dolly doesn't use google

edgy elk
#

he doesn't need to
he's smarter than us lowly mortals

woven drift
#

||Maybe when u actually get my pot 0 oblivion higher||

edgy elk
#

he's waiting patiently for the day we wise up and put him on oblivion

chilly raft
#

🛌 i good nap

#

is his slam design to always hit or st

#

i dont get it there

#

PerliWheeze i dodge, the dodge mechanic work but i still get hit by the firework

terse raptor
chilly raft
#

yeah it design to hit my character

#

i sleep

#

the reward is one crown

#

PerliWheeze lmao

honest hill
#

@edgy elk what the arsenal shop for asia rn

chilly raft
#

PerliWheeze or just spam heal

terse raptor
#

yeah eat his heat infliction

honest hill
#

ngl gilberta/perlica good to eat his infliction

terse valley
chilly raft
#

maybe i should build her

#

seem like she have some use here

terse valley
#

yea

terse raptor
honest hill
#

damnn

#

okay

#

ty

edgy elk
#

remember im waiting for umbral like u

honest hill
#

wait is hifumi asia or eu/na

edgy elk
#

nawh man u gotta add me to ur stalker spreadsheet where u track all our time zones n shit

honest hill
#

he has eu/na acc for some reason

edgy elk
#

oh this reminds me i gotta prune my friends list PerliWheeze

#

1 sec it's full and there's ppl who havent been on in a week

honest hill
#

same

#

I have too many

chilly bolt
#

Eu peeps living in the past

honest hill
chilly bolt
#

At least you have time to plan stuff

edgy elk
#

6155335564
@honest hill

edgy elk
honest hill
#

there I sent

ocean turret
#

you can do itRossiCopium

chilly bolt
#

Ember solo

honest hill
#

I wish the zips were 2x longer

#

and faster

edgy elk
#

now play a real ember solo PerliFumo

ocean turret
#

but the dmgRossiCopium

#

i survived because of the lynx gear

#

i tried swordmancer. shes gone within 3 hitsICANT

honest hill
#

idk why controller is press two buttons for zip

#

when mnk + mobile is one button

chilly bolt
#

Is using 2 crit kit on yv better if she's using nav or it's still crit+slab

edgy elk
honest hill
#

why couldn't it just be R2

edgy elk
#

controller sounds like a pain...

honest hill
#

I might have to replace all the non 100m zips for the other one

honest hill
#

u press one button for the auto one

terse valley
honest hill
#

so much easier

terse valley
#

yea

honest hill
#

when ur on zip L2 or R2 don't do anything

#

unless u press them together

#

which makes no sense

chilly raft
#

lmao

#

"when controlled operator get hit"

#

it doesnt count

ocean turret
#

missles doesnt count cause it targets the goundRossiCopium

chilly raft
#

i need she heal during that slam

#

lmao

#

i never get bit by his missle

#

PerliWheeze and she doesnt

#

lmao

ocean turret
#

ah ur cooked

smoky quarry
#

I wish gachas were built like grindfests (HD2, Warframe) 🤔

#

I thought the purpose of life service games is endless time waste capabilties

chilly raft
#

so i have to get hit by more hp character then swap out to heal other character

chilly raft
#

tbh with you
even with this gear farm of this game

smoky quarry
#

I feel like I wasted time and money by joining endfield (I'll waste more in the future cause I'm too deep in this shit)

chilly raft
#

well its trade time and money and hopefully you get st out of it

smoky quarry
#

like what, account that has no real value

chilly raft
#

you can trade between players in wf
you cant trade in this game

#

gear in here also less value than wf

#

since gameplay came from character

#

gear only boost number

wispy shuttle
smoky quarry
#

Half of the reason why I joined was because I liked the storytelling of og ak (themes and such), now guess what

#

they got genshin writer 💔

smoky quarry
wispy shuttle
#

not your kind of game, apparently

#

it benefits me personally to not get sucked into it

#

ill just go play satisfactory or factorio otherwise PerliWheeze

#

ironically the more grind a game like this offers, the faster i burn out on it

icy remnant
#

I’ll judge the story after WuLing finishes

#

1.1 felt good to me

smoky quarry
paper sand
#

what's the tangtang yvonne rotation for long fights?

fossil pendant
#

can't believe we found rossi's 5th bis teammate

#

it's the enemy in last floor of new umbral

smoky quarry
#

tsk, asia players teasing with umbral

#

and it's gonna arrive only in 2 hours on europe

fossil pendant
#

it generate heat infliction stacks on itself over time OMEGALUL

#

and you need to remove them

fresh trench
#

chat

dapper lava
#

Hi i am new here

#

I am arknights endfield fan too

drifting berry
chilly bolt
#

I mean isn't it the same as tt

#

Will have to wait until actual release for numbers

outer ermine
#

ICANT starting 12hrs later is rough ngl

summer flicker
#

😭

chilly bolt
#

More time to prepare

outer ermine
#

theres
litang
tt
yvonne
already competing ICANT and we havent fuckin loaded in yet

#

i can just copy and optimzie ig fuck it

summer flicker
#

37 more minm

lyric latch
chilly bolt
#

Oh right the weapon

outer ermine
#

mino yea

fierce nest
#

rossi signature weapon stats hasnt been revealed yet right

jovial grove
edgy elk
#

?

#

reading not comprehension plz explain what's glwve

chilly bolt
#

Seems like a league joke

edgy elk
#

💀 league

chilly bolt
#

Umbral glave is an item which many people rush 1st item in the current meta

#

Dont ask why i know

#

i play league sometimes

jovial grove
main nova
#

not even dota

#

league should try something simple, like dota rapier

#

i dunno why item in league feels like an essay

#

you cant use this on this, too restrictive

summer flicker
#

wait not now huh

#

i thought umbral is out now

#

lmao

outer ermine
#

ICANT dst

summer flicker
#

😭

chilly bolt
summer flicker
#

no

chilly bolt
#

wtf

#

living in oversea i guess

edgy elk
summer flicker
#

i gonna sleep lmao

edgy elk
#

same PerliDerp

#

went all night waiting for umbral. now 30mins (?) left and i dont wanna wait anymore

fresh trench
proud vector
#

Got hit once, rip af

dusk isle
fresh trench
ivory gale
#

probably work best on characters like Ember

dusk isle
#

Ive seen a solo ember do it on marble trim thats the only reason why i recommended it to koko ICANTsns

fossil pendant
#

why shop selling clannibal again Deadge

#

thermite where

drifting quest
#

not in 1.1

#

1.1 has ||3 reruns|| for some baffling reason

#

so quite a few weapons will still have 0 showings by the end of 1.1

#

if we had no reruns only 3 would have not yet appeared by end of 1.1

proud vector
#

PerliDerp waiting is so slowww

fresh trench
#

more oblivion

#

and i will solo marble

cinder oxide
drifting quest
#

if it were leaks i would not have said it

high finch
#

man this bull guy is annoying af

neat snow
#

Wooow ez umbral

drifting quest
#

im a big fan of this umbral

#

i hope all future ones are like this one

#

sweet spot of difficulty for p0p0

#

engaging mechanics

granite otter
#

Does Wulfguard do good damage in Laev team?

Does he need Clannibal - if he does do meaningful damage

#

I would like to get some math if yall do have

high finch
#

okay,didnt read shit just consumed fusion with laev

#

ty limited character for making it easy

drifting quest
#

clannibal is there IF you really want to try force its buff

#

but it tends to be a damage loss to try fit it in

granite otter
drifting quest
#

optimal timelines run OBJ, but if you dont want to feel your investment is wasted you can just run rational farewell and forget about it

drifting quest
#

has ult gain efficiency and we build wulf to just ult as much as possible

limpid shadow
#

wow laev is still being shilled for that last umbral stage 🚬

iron iris
smoky quarry
#

I accidentally got 1m damage from lavatein bs, yahoo

#

I never got close to these kind of numbers, I wonder how

fossil pendant
#

stage effect? idk

#

honestly I never read them

daring dove
tight haven
#

his multipliers are horrible

limpid shadow
#

damn am I the only person who actually reads stage mechanics AmiyaFumo

daring dove
limpid shadow
#

helps in malding much less ChenLeak

drifting quest
#

I read them

#

First thing I do is read all 3

smoky quarry
#

I have sp issues on agony howling flame PerliCopium

#

I genuinely don't understand people who say that agony is easy, makes me sweat enough to care

drifting quest
#

This umbral is notably harder

#

For p0p0

#

I love it

smoky quarry
#

nothing comes close to two stupid rams running in circles without cooldowns

fossil pendant
#

the third one pisses me off but pretty much just because I'm playing away from home on my phone and a) mobile controls are ass b) my phone's old and I get like 10 fps

smoky quarry
#

But I hate that howling flame messes with sp regen

fossil pendant
#

lmao

smoky quarry
#

and I can't do anything

drifting quest
#

all 3 umbral this time are like

#

built to stop you playing rotation simulator

#

which you could do on the 2 bulls

#

it solves all the issues i had with endgame

fossil pendant
#

another umbral another me wishing I pulled gilberta

#

xd

daring dove
#

Been nice getting all these sanity boosters ready for Rossi each day. Devs have been giving us quality stuff in the mail lately. 108_yaehmm

drifting quest
#

if every umbral is like this one from now on then im happy

smoky quarry
drifting quest
#

i mean these umbrals set you up to viberot

#

which is a good thing

limpid shadow
#

umbral makes you put on the thinking cap for once ChenLeak

drifting quest
#

no clear shilling is nice too

#

obviously some exists but its not super important

limpid shadow
#

like im not one to follow the tryhard timelines, but everything still makes sense 🥹

daring dove
#

Ah nice a new Umbral chapter so that's what everyone was talking about been so busy with work lately I had no idea it was even dropping today. W_HuHyperYAY

tight haven
#

im gonna log in in 7 mins and its still gonna be easy as shit i swear

drifting quest
#

cant comment beyond p0p0

#

id expect it folds to higher pot stuff

tight haven
#

not really a complaint, umbral definitely should not be catering to players like me

drifting quest
#

id expect its not just rotation sim either

#

but that you dont get to engage as much

#

not having l60 supports prob makes it less problematic too

#

since you can tank

smoky quarry
#

Crafted 60 redeemer armor pieces to artifice it

Get lucky artifices

I don't know what to do with 57 pieces left

tight haven
#

bro why would you pre-buy 60

drifting quest
#

lmao

#

i do like 5 at a time and thats because im impatient

smoky quarry
#

Cause my average artifice luck looks like this

fossil pendant
#

well, got it done on phone

#

that was kinda cancer

drifting quest
#

i had a 20/20 and 40/40 piece

#

recently

fossil pendant
#

mostly because with the fps I get one frame he's up in the sky and the next the attack already landed

#

tbh it's really easy if you just play like you have ten minutes though

#

being a bitch is encouraged

glass birch
drifting quest
#

yeah i like that they gave us a reason to use the timer

#

as an option

smoky quarry
drifting quest
#

lmao