theorycrafting

[river scroll]

[smoky quarry]

theorycraft is boring today

[cinder oxide]

Rossi can't come soon enough

Neither can the new umbral

[smoky quarry]

[wispy shuttle]

why bother when BK gives 15% right off the bat

[smoky quarry]

Korean comments are like loot boxes man 😭

[cinder oxide]

Opens comment
Oh thats a blue archive fan

[summer flicker]

the crit fish mindset, and giga speedrun

[smoky quarry]

why there are so many closet freaks

[fresh trench]

may my hatred to ardelia give me luck

[chilly bolt]

i just noticed the base stats of ops on endfieldtools.dev are either wrong or outdated

[smoky quarry]

weirdest timing for mail

[rapid heron]

He is the guy that using this ATK calculation formular for his own DMG calculation spreadsheet so you tell me : "I also tried to control variables as much as possible, and used this formula:
BuffedAttack = [(Character Base ATK + Weapon Base ATK) × ( MainAttribute × Attack% + RawAttack )] × [(1 + MainAttribute% × 0.005) + SecondaryAttribute × (1 + SecondaryAttribute% × 0.002)]
"

[smoky quarry]

this formula is grossly incorrect, right?

[rapid heron]

i cant believe that some one played a single team for so long , max potential and still cant get the guide doen right

[rapid heron]

yes

[smoky quarry]

r/mathgore

[rapid heron]

Attack=((OperatorAttack+WeaponAttack)×PercentageBonuses+FixedBonus+SpecialBonus)×AttributeBonus

with: AttributeBonus=1+0.005×MainAttribute+0.002×SecondaryAttribute

the actual formula is this

not sure where he get his MainAttributexATK% from

[gritty briar]

how did they get such a nonsensical attribute formula?
Main attribute is in 2 different brackets but secondary isn't? wtf are they doing?

[rapid heron]

when i tried to correct him" I did all the test live with viewers". 99.9% of his viewers doesnt understand math formular or game basic mechancis how they gonna correct him? They just eat what ever he feed down their throat

i told them in his most recent video that he use foodbuff and they nullified his argument of taking off 1 piece of armor = 30% DMG lost

i pointed out the time stamp on the video where food buff shown and silent since

his video can only fool people that cant do simple math

[rapid heron]

the reason he said he got that formula is because when he use Ginseng meatstew buff it went up more than 180 there for it must be that

XD

he could just input his current character stats and input into his spreadsheet , use food buff and see if number match but nope. He cant be wrong

[tight haven]

1000 years of crit tangtang discourse

[rapid heron]

i tried crit TangTang and it utter trash. in Umbral monument you have so much down time of the buff

the only time it might be good is when you can 1 shot stuffs quicly

if in normal fight where you have to dodge mutliple attack you lose stacks or you take hit and lose Xaihi amp

[tight haven]

yeah unfortunately a lot of people seem to have been automatically convinced by a poorly done guide video into building it

[rapid heron]

if someone show a spreadsheet it must be correct right?

[tight haven]

i don't super blame people for falling for it, i do blame the video's creator for not owning up to their obvious errors

and for speaking so authoritatively in the first place

[rapid heron]

like i wouldnt have issues if he just make video saying there is alternative set for tangTang

[drifting quest]

drama drives views

they know what they are doing

is the cynical take

[rapid heron]

but when you calling the community is wrong and our build is trash

you better make sure you are correct

[tight haven]

i do think they put in the work... just a shame that their work meant nothing because the math was derived from false principles

[summer flicker]

gambling set

[rapid heron]

the funniest part is they use prydwen screen

claiming cause they took off the chest piece they are dealing 30% less DMG

so their P5 yvonne weaker than P0

when this is compare to 0 gear equiped

if you have 1000 ATK and add 300 more that is 30% increase if you have another piece that give 300 that is 1600/1300 and not 30% anymore . Just simple math but it seem too hard for him to understand

https://tenor.com/view/джона-хилл-jonah-hill-facepalm-рука-лицо-долоня-обличчя-gif-7167197686338732060

is there any good spreadsheet that we can use without have to pay monthly for it?

the one from datafield cost 10$/month

[smoky quarry]

can't yawn any louder as someone who didn't pulled for tangtang

[peak void]

is TT mdps real or cope

[summer flicker]

real

[peak void]

i keep hearing abt her gigaload personal dmg

name checks out

[drifting quest]

real but not like

she isnt beating dedicated carries we have

[summer flicker]

yes ofc, she not beating dedicated carries

[drifting quest]

unless you go vertical on tt pots and only have p0 for others

[summer flicker]

[peak void]

well

im just looking for overworld options

[summer flicker]

she is best in overworld

[peak void]

tho i do realize i can just run phys

[summer flicker]

2 tt skill everything dies

[peak void]

thats very enticing lol

do i need her sig to do that or nah

[drifting quest]

yeah tt has felt the best for overworld

of everything ive tried

[summer flicker]

ye cuz her sig is good for her personal dmg

[drifting quest]

5s protocol spaces is huge too

or 10s i guess

anim time

[peak void]

fuck

[drifting quest]

tt ake gilb perlica

[peak void]

phys is fast but like if u miss the chen and endmin bs, you kind of just sit there

meanwhile i feel like tt's aoe is really good

[summer flicker]

you can ignore gilb skill

and just tt skill

[drifting quest]

phys is about 0-5s slower for me

[smoky quarry]

ake gilb perlica is like perfect ambulance team core tbh 😭

they can wheelchair anyone

[summer flicker]

cuz the aoe is too good

[drifting quest]

(tt skill > combo) > perlica ult > ake ult > tt ult > gilb ult > tt plunge > tt skill(s)

[peak void]

well anyway its not like the weapon banners going away anytime soon

[drifting quest]

melts anything overworld/protocol space

[summer flicker]

ye i need to lvl my perlica now that you mention that team

[rapid heron]

it depend on the fight lenght in certain fight tangTang can kill faster than LR or Yvonne cause she doersnt require setup just 2 stack on whirlpool and she good to go . When Lastrite or Yvonne still building up Ult

like Rocksolid

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah for protocol spaces / overworld

tt goes way faster

for actual fights that matter

she does not

pre whale

[summer flicker]

she is king in short fight

or more like queen

[smoky quarry]

short queen

[peak void]

man i am too BROKE for this

[smoky quarry]

it's just 230 dollars for a character

or 4 games by modern standards

[rapid heron]

hope we will get re run after 1.3

so we can save up pulls

[peak void]

i have TT but i dont have arsenal tix

[quartz horizon]

common bottleneck

[smoky quarry]

then you need 170 dollars

[outer ermine]

[honest hill]

Hifumi has 170 dollars

it's pocket money for him

[fresh trench]

this is the end

i cant go faster than 2:09

i dont have ult for it if i go faster

[smoky quarry]

but did you trimmed rhodagn?

[fresh trench]

i litteraly said 2:09

yeah

no

[gritty briar]

i'm sure if you try your hardest you can reach 2:08

i believe in you!

[fresh trench]

I have a rotation change in mind

1 second this might be funniest thing i try

[gritty briar]

what are you running anyways?

[fresh trench]

i ult after second combo skill

[gritty briar]

is this the ardelia one?

[fresh trench]

yeah

WAIT A SECOND

she dont have enough to ult the second times but if i start it sooner

that was 2:07 i believed

2:11 still darn

ok new plan new rotation

[chilly bolt]

New plan, get sig p5

Or oblivion p5

[gritty briar]

what does the ardelia build look like?

is she p5?

[fresh trench]

p4 oblivion p1

[gritty briar]

what gear does she run?

[chilly bolt]

Hotwork

I believe

And slab

Laev p4 build

[smoky quarry]

I am so not ready for next patch

[wispy shuttle]

just get lucky

[smoky quarry]

why my oroberyl stash is so homeless

if pull economy is so good, then why my pull count is bullshit? I wasn't spending anything since I got gilberta

[wispy shuttle]

how much did you spend on gil

[smoky quarry]

soft pity

[wispy shuttle]

then something isnt adding up, bc i got soft pity gil, did some pulls on yvonne, then hard pitied TT, and still have more oroberyls than you atm

[fossil pendant]

i'm sitting on like 130k beryl lol

have yet to want to pull any of the ops

slight regret not getting gil but also I don't even play anyone I'd use her with

[gritty briar]

oh I just saw the footage of your 2:13 cleae @fresh trench
is ult charge tacticals banned?

[smoky quarry]

I did hard pity laeva though, pretty sure that most of 1.0 pulls are gone. Idk how you still have pulls after spending 100 of them on tangtang

[fresh trench]

the what now?

[gritty briar]

the food that instantly restores ult charge during combat

[fresh trench]

its always just realy for some reason

try going into the boss everyone ult is readied

[smoky quarry]

he means using it as tactical

[fossil pendant]

that was in the 1.1 patch

[smoky quarry]

it works automatically on condition

[fresh trench]

you can do that?

[fresh trench]

what food is that?

[smoky quarry]

Bone Soup or smth like that

fillet and slug meat

[chilly bolt]

It's in the pins

[smoky quarry]

GM potential and essense graphics are boring, same as 5 stars

usually you expect massive color changes when you p5+essense thing

[smoky quarry]

actually stanza has more noticeable essense effect

[fresh trench]

💀 let me try it

[smoky quarry]

so you want sub-2minutes on ardelia?

[gritty briar]

there's also one that works on the whole team with lower numbers but for obvious reason that wouldn't be helpful for solo

[smoky quarry]

But can you solo trim rhodagn on yvonne?

[gritty briar]

surely that has been done by now

[smoky quarry]

yvonne can dps without ambulance team?

[fresh trench]

WHY DID I GET WORSE NUMBER

[gritty briar]

lmao

[chilly bolt]

Find me a yvonne solo clip

[gritty briar]

also, have fun farming for ult food

[chilly bolt]

They should make dogs farmable in large scale

[smoky quarry]

nobody needs food 😭

[fresh trench]

this is my average retry

[smoky quarry]

except for trimmaxxers

[gritty briar]

lmao

[chilly bolt]

I wonder how many dogs hifumi has slain

[outer ermine]

used to be alot

[smoky quarry]

What the hell is this spear?

It's not on the database. Cut content?

[outer ermine]

until i didnt need buffs then i did again

im jakubs enjoyer now tho 5% is lovely

[gritty briar]

play foodless and tell myself it's for the challenge when i'm actually just too lazy

well i generally just don't like how much ult charge food changes the game tbh

kinda feels shitty to plan a rotation around it when 99% of the time i wouldn't play that way cause i'm not burning food every encounter

[drifting quest]

old JET design, most likely

exists in datamines

[smoky quarry]

there's jet right next to it

[drifting quest]

could not tell you

[normal tangle]

wasn't there a cut healer from cbt

might be his weapon

[drifting quest]

it's just part of ||the same weapon series JET now is||

[normal tangle]

it looks like it's in the wedge/thermal/former finery line of weps

so it's for some standard mf

[drifting quest]

JET is part of that chain

[smoky quarry]

Northmarch Support Hub

[normal tangle]

is it?

[drifting quest]

yes

[normal tangle]

looks nothing like them

[smoky quarry]

The color palette is the same

[summer flicker]

[gritty briar]

jet looks pretty out of place with those weapons

[summer flicker]

crit fish harder

jakubs gib more atk anyway

[drifting quest]

the item description is NSH same as the others

[outer ermine]

its easier now

[drifting quest]

hence the speculation that it got a design tweak for some reason

[outer ermine]

i can do like 18 full runs on rhod w 1 buff

[gritty briar]

other weapons look ugly as hell and jet looks relatively normal

[smoky quarry]

jet skirt is ugly is hell, idk

Cohesion Traction is the only spear that would actually work, cause its blade can actually go through

[fresh trench]

I take break for now

this is even more variable i can control

i am gonna explode

[torn pilot]

How much better is tangtang weapon than other options?

[smoky quarry]

gap so big I've never considered it

[torn pilot]

And also when did chivalric become a better option than deto on xaihi?

[torn pilot]

Oh real? Lmao

[smoky quarry]

no, just meme

[torn pilot]

I’m referring to the team building guide that’s pinned in #team-build and I noticed the change for Yvonne’s team

[gritty briar]

i wonder how many rhodagns have died since launch

[vernal ore]

It also changed on LR on her Tangtang team, I think it has something to do with TangTang

[torn pilot]

My guess is that it’s because normally you’ll try to use tangtangs combo skill first, then her battle skill

Which sometimes means xaihi will be applying the first infliction stack instead of the second +

But you lose a lot of int by switching iirc

And ult rotation always procs det

Soooo idk what I’m missing

[fresh trench]

ok this food technical didnt help

[vernal ore]

Yea I leveled up my P1 Chiv just in case, my shortage rn is on those endgame mat thingies not reg level up mats. In general I'm waiting on an Update on the Yvonne Page for gear it seems underbaked, it even says Tangtang's gear is still a WIP so anxious to refine it any

Compare to the LR above where they figured out all the ult breakpoints

[torn pilot]

Hmmm yea

[rapid heron]

woah woah dont let those spreadsheet people see you are using xiranite on xaihi or they gonna go banana

[vernal ore]

That's a screenshot from the spreadsheet not my team...

[rapid heron]

the bigger question is why xiranite kit on TangTang

just 12% on the chest is more than enough to get her ult with 2 combo and some other BS

[smoky quarry]

sp recovery bullshit

you have to compensate it with more ult gain

[fresh trench]

I cant

I just cant

[rapid heron]

oh right i have gilberta

[vernal ore]

Speaking of sheets if I switch Chen to the new set that works super well with Glorious Memory, should I switch Pog or Lifeng to Swordmancer? If I don't I'll only have one member of my team on it (Endmin) so my stagger will be low...

Choices choices

[honest hill]

it depends

oh wait

[vernal ore]

I haven't really Artificed much of my Pys team's gear except Endmin due to focusing more on my Ice team for a while so replacing thing is low cost

[honest hill]

for pog

or u can change lifeng one

pog

[vernal ore]

Yea I saw, the issue is change pog from HW or change Lifeng from Xiranite

[honest hill]

Lifeng

[vernal ore]

Which one

I read the sheet end to end

Not the best with numbers tho

[honest hill]

it does say when lifeng is low pot/doesn't have his sig xira can be better

[vernal ore]

So thought I would ask the numbers people

[vernal ore]

Yea I don't have potential or sig on him

[honest hill]

use xira for him and swordmancer on pog

[vernal ore]

OK~

[fossil pendant]

I have not struggled with stagger at all running only one swordmancer set on the team

anecdotally

[vernal ore]

I'll put off the pog regear until I finish testing the new Chen, thank you!

[neon knot]

time to blow it all on essences and not get a single upgrade

[vernal ore]

a mood

[neon knot]

well at this point i already got every essence combination i need

so idk what im really farming for lmao

just going for innate +3 skills and +4 ultimate gain efficiency for support i guess

[potent hornet]

start stocking up on mats to level your other operators

[neon knot]

i want to 6/6/3 tangtang before that

also cause i get leveling mats from battlepass + events + credit store

but there's no alternative sources of essences

[outer ermine]

get ur mats from quota and perma farm essence

[smoky quarry]

500 coolant gel for 10$ in shop next patch 🗣️

[honest hill]

u whale

[smoky quarry]

he robbed local bank after this

[fossil pendant]

personally im just prefarming fodder to 6/6/3 the next weapon I pull lol

usually I can reach 5/5/3 before I get 900 coolant to guarantee both 6 so having some spare on hand helps

[neon knot]

is the agility worth upgrading here (yvonne's substat)

I'm so broke lmao

[vernal ore]

I wish they would add large amounts of Coolant to the BP...

[fossil pendant]

fuck that just make every level tcreds

[smoky quarry]

wish granted: 300 coolant gel on 45th tier

[smoky quarry]

you have some issues with resource management if 1m creds is not enough for you

[vernal ore]

More plz

[fossil pendant]

my bad for building multiple teams

[lyric latch]

🔥 would be adding more arsenal tickets

[vernal ore]

Oh OFC, Pulls the best thing

[smoky quarry]

I built three teams. Don't do useless upgrades

[lyric latch]

hope we get another survey when TT banner ends

[fossil pendant]

I don't upgrade shit that doesn't matter lol

[open narwhal]

i building 1 team

1 cryo res buff and its over

[fossil pendant]

good thing you have 10 minutes to kill whatever they put in front of you and it takes 30 seconds with current res

[smoky quarry]

I want to m12 the wife

The only m12 that isn't useless actually, cause perlica does insane damage on finisher

[open narwhal]

everything worth if you already call her wife

i meant we have plenty of circle thingy already

[smoky quarry]

Practicality and sentimentality at the same time

[fossil pendant]

I still need to finish lifeng bs

and then i'm chilling for the patch

[smoky quarry]

it takes 24 marks to m12

f2p have around 100 already

so yeah, think twice before mastering

[open narwhal]

nah

dont

thats enough to m12 4 wife

and thats just 1.1

[smoky quarry]

you also need some masteries on ambulance team

[open narwhal]

fack ambulance

my goat xaihi carry

[fresh trench]

screw this

[open narwhal]

thats like my whole storage lol

nah m9 is enough

[smoky quarry]

xaihi IS the ambulance for cryo and nature chars

[open narwhal]

yeah and i only build 1 team \

i see no problem

[smoky quarry]

you'll see the problem very soon

[outer ermine]

replay buffer

had like fuckin 300gb worth of recording when i was iframe hunting

[fossil pendant]

when I used to record in full native resolution I had like a single 200gb vod from a raid day in ffxiv

[smoky quarry]

Insane OBJ velocitus essense pull???

[fossil pendant]

I have to downscale now or my ssd explodes

[fresh trench]

i give up

i sleep now

[open narwhal]

enough for whole 1. i suppose

[fresh trench]

i am out of ginseng

[open narwhal]

i do get some dupe too

[open narwhal]

still farming detonate?

what u aiming for?

[smoky quarry]

nothing really, I just ran out of essenses I need

I don't exactly need etched essense on detonation unit, lol

purple got me covered

[potent hornet]

love my p5 deto unit

[outer ermine]

whel

[potent hornet]

takes one to know one?

[honest hill]

u prob have it p5

[open narwhal]

yall wel

[outer ermine]

only chiv

[potent hornet]

see that one in the back left just chillin, thats me

[outer ermine]

det is overrated

[open narwhal]

starry beach on top

yall facking wel to talk bout chiv or det

[chilly bolt]

If only chiv 2nd line is something useful

Me when Hp boost on xaihi

[outer ermine]

for skill issue perfect for me

[open narwhal]

nah my xaihi is bot

she dodge better than me

my yv died mid fight lol

[fossil pendant]

tell her to lock in

[dusty olive]

does the Crisis battle timer start on load in or when you engage the boss?

[smoky quarry]

wheelchair harder next time

[dusty olive]

I need to shave 30 more seconds off of Rhodagn

[edgy crater]

btw, does p0 starry xaihi actually give more number than deto/chiva xaihi?

[smoky quarry]

when you are able to move

[dusty olive]

so when the level loads?

got it

[potent hornet]

i have heard it starts on load, like your time can be faster if you run to the area the crisis is in because it will load faster

for in the game timer for trims anyway

[smoky quarry]

I'll have actual waifu gaming team if li zhiyang replaces akekuri

[fossil pendant]

it starts when you load in not when you press enter

[dusty olive]

okay, so I am definitely wasting time by buffing with food

[smoky quarry]

you can do that pre-fight

[fossil pendant]

you can do that outside

[smoky quarry]

buffs do not reset on entering

[lyric latch]

New Vanguard would be exciting

[dusty olive]

I learned that on my second attempt today lol :p

speaking of food, is fortifying infusion, ginseng meat stew, or kunst tube best?

because I also noticed that food buffs can't stack on each other

[smoky quarry]

infusion and tube out of the picture

it's either ginseng or jakub

depending on the character

[fossil pendant]

usually ginseng or jakub, jakub weaker but piss easy to get hundreds of from v4 bills

[smoky quarry]

high atk (5k+) usually feels better with jakub, cause it buffs percent of the attack

[dusty olive]

so attack increase is better than all damage increase

gotcha

[fossil pendant]

dmg% saturated af in most situations

attack rarer

[smoky quarry]

all dmg increase% goes into the same bracket

atk is the base multiplier and has greater power

[potent hornet]

ehhh, i get more attack on my LR with jakub

[gritty briar]

well all the atk% increases are also additive with eachother. there's just less of them

[potent hornet]

but i eat ginsing for the crit

[smoky quarry]

I don't actually get how +11% crit is stronger than +27% atk

I've heard that crit conversion is like 1% = 0.5% atk on average

[potent hornet]

it isn't

until you crit

[smoky quarry]

base crit damage isn't even 100%

[potent hornet]

yea its 50%

[daring dove]

Close to max artifice on one shot one kill Tangtang build.

[smoky quarry]

oh, I got it. It's for crit fishing

to kill in one hit or smth like that

woudn't it mean that jakub is better all-rounder?

[potent hornet]

its 50% you had a very small chance of getting, with the food its a bit more realistic to get it on one of your big abilities

[fossil pendant]

especially if you need to fish more than one hit

[potent hornet]

on that crit strike you will always do more dmg with the crit than the same hit with jakuub

[smoky quarry]

so it's gambling on your timer results

[fossil pendant]

you do not want to fish two crits on 5%

[edgy crater]

doubt

[chilly bolt]

Ask hifumi

[potent hornet]

with the type of less than 1 minute of fight content we have right now its a reasonable tactic

[smoky quarry]

-# ew

[gritty briar]

also i'd like to point out that not all of that 5k attack you see displayed is multiplied with jakubs, because that 5k is after attack% buffs and those are additive
You should be looking at the base value instead

[fossil pendant]

when you eventually land both those crit you get better performance w/o the crit rate buff

it is simply a question of sanity

[smoky quarry]

that's shame

[gritty briar]

base attack is in the ballpark of 700-900
so 27% of that
vs
180 from ginseng + crit chance

was it 27? forgot the exact number

[potent hornet]

well the thing is

[fossil pendant]

yes

[potent hornet]

that 180 from ginsing gets modified by your main/sub stat dmg increases

[gritty briar]

both multiply with attribute%

[potent hornet]

so its not just 180

[gritty briar]

yeah that will apply to both foods

[dusty olive]

so if I understand this correctly
the attack boosts from both get calculated equally, it just matters which one gives the better addition
meaning that the base atk stat for Jakub's 27% to beat ginseng's flat 180 is 667
so in terms of flat damage, Jakub's is generally better, but for a dedicated crit dps like Yvonne, the extra 11% cr will go further

is this correct?

[outer ermine]

jakub supremacy, dont let the 5% fool u, its either u crit or not

[gritty briar]

well the crit is still providing at least some help and usually making up for the small attack difference

[fossil pendant]

realistically the food diff is not what's going to make or break your trim anyways

[gritty briar]

ginseng probably doing more on average but it's just kind of annoying to farm

cause you can just buy 40 jakubs every week

[fossil pendant]

unless you are legit trying to 1 shot the boss I would just pop a food and figure out how to play better

[gritty briar]

ginseng is for people torturing themselves for funny youtube clears

well jakub could do the same if it's a really short clear and you just need a single lucky crit. just gamble on the 5%!

[outer ermine]

my clear was w jakubs

crazy i still need jakubs lemme go buffless smh hg buff lr

[edgy crater]

nah, hg will give ember gear again

[fossil pendant]

based honestly

it's kinda funny watching her fill up 1/4th stagger bar with one fs

[smoky quarry]

you need crit for like extreme speedruns

where you end run by fishing two crits in a row

and +11% crit increases odds of hitting it multiple times in a row

(chance of getting two crits in a row this way is 2.56%, instead of 0.25%)

chance to pull legendary is 0.8% btw

[fossil pendant]

there's no pity on critting 🙂

[full stratus]

Who would Rossi be with? I hope she is good with Laevetain

[edgy crater]

dats higher than fgo

[smoky quarry]

This guy hasn't seen devlog

Rossi is core phys unit that converts heat infliction to vulnurability

[full stratus]

Must be good with Wolfy

If I replace Ardelia with Rossi, then would it be good?

Laevetain, Rossi, Wolfguard, Akekuri

[smoky quarry]

rossi literally has anti-synergy with laevatein

heat infliction gets converted into vuln tokens

she's played with endmin

If you slot rossi with heat generators, you lose phys buffers (lifeng and pogr), and damage is miserable
if you slot rossi with phys buffers, you lose heat conversion and application is miserable (at this point just slot chen)

[full stratus]

FUCK! I really hope she can be played with Laevetain. Can she work well with POG?

[smoky quarry]

she's chen "replacer" if anything

[smoky quarry]

she just can't work with laeva

[full stratus]

So she replaced Chen, but can't be with pog?

[smoky quarry]

Her team will probably require middleground, like

Endmin - Rossi - Wulfgard - Pogranichnik

Buffs from lifeng are still lost in this case

[full stratus]

Why?

[smoky quarry]

Cause you can't slot him there?

[full stratus]

Why there should be Endmin?

[smoky quarry]

Rossi generates vulnurability

someone has to consume it to deal damage

do you know how phys teams work?

[full stratus]

Why not pog?

[smoky quarry]

pog is buffer, his breach is not for damage

Crush is 150%+150%xTokens
Breach is 50%+50%xTokens

just read the guide

[full stratus]

Lmfao

Atleast I'm asking

[gritty briar]

I don't actually think pog would be worth it on that team

[full stratus]

Why? Then what should I give?

[gritty briar]

Blowing stacks for a debuff that only really helps 1.5 members of the team and breach debuff is potentially diluted by rossi's phys damage taken debuff anyways

[smoky quarry]

Breach is the biggest contributor to crush damage on the team, isn't it?

[full stratus]

I have all physical 6*, so I just need to put the right team

[gritty briar]

well, rossi's already applying the same type of debuff, although we don't know what the numbers are.
Breach is just a damage taken debuff and rossi applies phys dmg taken
idk, no one knows what it'll be like

[smoky quarry]

ain't no way pogr gets powercreeped like that

[gritty briar]

i doubt the team in general is stronger than the typical phys team

[smoky quarry]

yeah, the synergy between members is just terrible

[gritty briar]

but i mean pogr is losing value specifically in rossi team because more of the members aren't phys and they already have the debuff

[smoky quarry]

it's either gonna be suboptimal or rossi has some crazy powercreep up her sleeve

[gritty briar]

rossi is possibly half arts and wulf wouldn't be doing any phys either
so there's some value lost for pogr there

[smoky quarry]

synergy in default phys team is just that good

hard to make it any better with new units

[gritty briar]

i'm thinking something like rossi wulf gil endmin if both her arts and phys damage are relevant

[fossil pendant]

they can always just push the numbers higher but the team already feels extremely complete to play

[gritty briar]

or da pan, idk

[smoky quarry]

they can add 6-star enabler that will be a bit better than chen

[full stratus]

I just want to hope for the best for Rossi, Idk what would she be with. I don't think she can replace Chen either in "pog premium team"

[smoky quarry]

rossi is enabler, she just doesn't fits default phys team

[full stratus]

Rossi really needs wolfguard to be useful

[edgy crater]

ange

[lyric latch]

Requiring Vuln, Arts Inf and Combustion to work at maximum output is tough

[drifting quest]

needs is a stretch

[smoky quarry]

she'll be really good if mi fu turns out to be heat caster, trust me

[full stratus]

Currently, the team would be like this

[drifting quest]

those are sample teams, not necessarily what is actually optimal

[full stratus]

But damnit it just looks wrong

[smoky quarry]

you know how you can make it even more cursed? Replace akekuri with ember

[fossil pendant]

I'm not sold on her in general but maybe she comes out with like 2500% mv on her ult or something who knows

[potent hornet]

i'm bulding ember up next

[smoky quarry]

and then it will backfire when devs will accidentally add operator that synergizes with her

[drifting quest]

the tangtang teams had fluorite and alesh

neither of which are optimal

so i would not use the dev log teams as any sort of indicator

[full stratus]

Yeah in this teamcomp, Alesh is there, but interestingly Gilberta is the one who would be better for this team comp

[smoky quarry]

"99% of people can't design better team for this character"

Laeva team in combat drill was almost perfect though

[full stratus]

Man goddamnit, I hope I could have all 3 6* team comp with only one 5* because I want to flex my wealth like I did with TangTang premium team, but I can't with Rossi and Laevetain... FUCK

[smoky quarry]

I'd just replace ardelia with antal, cause ardelia eats SP

[fossil pendant]

tbf it's not like they had a lot of reasonable options to work with at the time lol

[full stratus]

If somehow Rossi wouldn't be able to replace any existing 5* or 4* characters' job or can't give good functions, her sales would be low.

[smoky quarry]

Laeva team just needs better vanguard imo. I reckon it will be lycia

[fossil pendant]

every teams sp economy feels like shit after playing phys

akekuri isn't even bad in that department it's just

[smoky quarry]

phys team is extremely repetitive and rotation-dependant

[fossil pendant]

not the same man

[smoky quarry]

I don't like it

[full stratus]

I do hope that Akekuri would have her 6* replacer

So I could flex 3 6* at once

[fossil pendant]

new 6* generalist vanguard would be nice

[full stratus]

Like you know, I want to flex my wealth, I already pay for it why don't use it

[smoky quarry]

Li zhiyang looks like electrovanguard, I'll cope for this

[fossil pendant]

personally I don't think it feels any worse than lmb mashing on rite or laevatain ngl

[smoky quarry]

laeva team is flexible and next 20 seconds of your life are not fucked in case you miss some skill

[full stratus]

It is the main selling point, it's just not brain deleter

[lyric latch]

Imagine if the release Nature Vanguard and then Nature Defender. Anything but Nature Dps

[fossil pendant]

it's fun to set up into a huge stagger burst on rite at least but the buildup phase is so

urgh

I want to try avy at some point but no jet

[full stratus]

I have the shittiest time playing Last Rite

I don't enjoy every single hour I am forced to play as her

[smoky quarry]

'forced'

[full stratus]

Before I got my Laevetain and her weapon

[full stratus]

Hey yes I am forced, I don't have any other choices

[smoky quarry]

Literally story team is better than progressing with LR

[full stratus]

I don't have anyone but last rite at that time

[fossil pendant]

if anything I think it feels worse when you ebs on lae and the boss says no and leaves compared to just whiffing the second hit of lifeng ult or something, that's just a 3 stack crush instead of 4

[smoky quarry]

Endmin - Chen - Perlica - Wulfgard

[fossil pendant]

especially because of how poor the sp on that team already feels

[full stratus]

Sadly I have no clue back then, the game is still new and it's like only week one

[smoky quarry]

can we call that skill issue?

[full stratus]

And Last Rite shows up in my pulls, the instinct to just play her would just kick in

[lyric latch]

Meanwhile I did everything in the game after story Rhoda with Last Rite team lmao

[fossil pendant]

I mean yes it is skill issue but the whole point of the conversation was how the team qualitatively feels to play and that includes when you fuck up

last rite literally got me to pull laevatain while doing story

because it was just that awful

[full stratus]

You here gentleman, have the same experience as I do

Good thing my second account got blessed with POG, so I can enjoy pog premium team early

[potent hornet]

meh, i did just fine taking LR through the story

[full stratus]

I picked Lifeng up from the free standard character if I'm mistaken

[smoky quarry]

I mean

[daring dove]

Looks like we're only going to find out more about Rossi once she's in-game.

Does she drop on CN first, or is it all at the same time?

[full stratus]

The latter

[fossil pendant]

it's not like you can't play her of course but who the fuck wants to play a character where you stack 3 cryo on a random mob and you kill it with BAs before your combo can even go off lol

she's boss only if you want her to not give you cancer

[full stratus]

Because if she drops first in China then Global, we would get easy info, which we don't now

[lyric latch]

We probably get an appetizer when they drop her weapon desc on twitter

[smoky quarry]

Updates drop in the same time, based on chinese time

so the release time is terrible for europe

it's like 5 in the morning

[full stratus]

Yeah man Last Rite is just the shittiest standard ever

[full stratus]

Yep, that's what I'm implying

[full stratus]

It's actually a good release time, because a normal player would rather have something readily available when they wake up. Who wants to wait for the right time? Yeah no one

[fossil pendant]

she's very fun to play in re crisis and all that but don't let her within 800 km of overworld or adds

[smoky quarry]

you actually won't be able to download it in time, you'll be kicked out of the servers all night

So you'll have to do it past 2pm or something like that

billionaire company can't push pre-downloads for their games somehow

[potent hornet]

the patch itself is usually downloadable like a couple minutes after they take it down

[full stratus]

Wait what? You said she would release at 5 in the morning, wouldn't the server be up right there and then?

[smoky quarry]

the load on downloading servers is usually so big, that you get kicked from downloading very frequently when it becomes available

[full stratus]

What I would think would happen is that the server would be in maintenance before this 5 am

[smoky quarry]

yes, download will be available when it'll go on maint

as I said

[daring dove]

Praying she has a decent amount of ATK% in her 3rd line.

[smoky quarry]

downloading errors

check this out

3 AM in the morning when I was trying to download 1.1

[full stratus]

No no no, what I mean is, the server would be up at 5AM, before that the server would be in maintenance

[smoky quarry]

forget it

[edgy crater]

[smoky quarry]

I could download update only past 12am

[full stratus]

Also gacha games usually roles out the update predownload 3 days ahead right?

[full stratus]

Ahh so it's your own problem, damn this is sad

[smoky quarry]

Hell nah

My internet works like clock

it's a common problem when devs don't introduce predownloads

[full stratus]

Also by the way Rossi would still be in 1.1, I don't think there would be a major update anyway?

Maybe some hotfix

[smoky quarry]

I was talking about 1.2 update, but ok

rossi download should be very small

[full stratus]

Oh wait okay

[smoky quarry]

also 1.1 was like 35gb in size

pair it up with thousands people who are downloading it atm

and your speed is dead

[hardy shadow]

SoupSoup got a lot of attack

[daring dove]

Used to bother me before I got gigabit download. Nowa days I tend to have stuff downloaded faster than my SSD can unpack it. So the bottleneck is rarely internet anymore.

[smoky quarry]

my shitty provider can't offer me more than I already have

I said them, take my money but give me better connection

[lyric latch]

We pray for more ATK than Yvonne

[smoky quarry]

they don't have hardware for that 🥀

[full stratus]

@smoky quarry Wait I'm confused, you replied to me when I was in the middle of a conversation with Striker about Rossi. But why do you talk about 1.2 updates then

[smoky quarry]

cause you said about update times and I thought you were talking about 1.2 update

[full stratus]

I didn't say something about update tho

Yeah this is just a miscommunication

[smoky quarry]

playing gartic phone with delayed messages

[full stratus]

Lmfao

[daring dove]

Do you have a fiber connection to your home or just copper? For years I had bad internet until I paid someone to rip up my drive way an add a fiber line.

[smoky quarry]

optic fiber

[full stratus]

You should've had a good internet connection, not potato

[edgy crater]

doubt

[smoky quarry]

it's like 100mbits/s, but I want 300mbits/s like most of the people do

or 500

[daring dove]

Anything over 300 is just fine for most people honestly, mines 950 an it feels complete overkill. But yeah with 100 I can imagine being annoyed by the developers not allowing you to pre-load stuff.

[smoky quarry]

so you like, download 100GB of staff in 15 minutes?

[daring dove]

Usually downloading about 105 meg or so a second I rarely get my full speed. So over a gigabyte of data every 10 seconds.

[shut cobalt]

what is last rite's best skills to level dmg wise? i think this is the correct channel for this?

[edgy crater]

all

[shut cobalt]

so all of them are important to level? its not like laev's BA one thats basically useless?

[gritty briar]

download speeds are usually in bits, not bytes, so that many megabits would be 1/8 of a gigabyte every 10 seconds
unless you actually mean megabytes and you download at 800 megabits per second

[edgy crater]

yeah, basically r9 r9 m3 m3

[shut cobalt]

oh, so u dont want to m3 every single one, thought u wanted to do that
thanks

[edgy crater]

well u can for minmax

[smoky quarry]

BATK M3 on your main fielded operator makes sense, cause finisher multiplier is usually huge

With the sole exception of lavatein, she can't do finisher atk half of the time (ultimate form)

[daring dove]

I'm well aware 8 bits = a megabyte

[smoky quarry]

8 bits = 1 byte

[daring dove]

I mean megabits how broadbroand speed is measured.

950 megabits = about 120 megabytes.

Although you're rarely going to get a gigabit especially in a home setting because most home networks & Ethernet connections don't support beyond that anyway.

I can get a 1900 megabit connection if wanted, but I'd have to rewire my entire house to make it worth while so haven't bothered.

[edgy crater]

well, lr kill the target before staggered

[smoky quarry]

"Protocol... Annihilation"

[edgy crater]

throw out my endmin team

[normal heron]

What is this tool?! Where do I get it?

[smoky quarry]

end axis

https://www.end-axis.com/

[fresh trench]

I ran out of idea...

[dreamy cave]

tangtang sub dps is still fine even with no fully artificed gear and fully etched weapon

[warped sorrel]

i like how artificing is worthless rn

[fresh trench]

Yea

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-monkey-shocked-mouth-open-gif-16459002

i don't know what you're smoking, but i want it

[fresh trench]

Please dont

[terse valley]

yazhen powder

[gritty briar]

did the ult stews not help at all?

[fresh trench]

It mess up rotation and end up with faster stagger/cool down off

[drifting quest]

you could just rerot around stew

slugpudding too even

[fresh trench]

I know i know but i ran out of meat

[gritty briar]

i doubt slug pudding would be very useful for a solo run

[fresh trench]

New theory is fortying infusion

I have no calculation but i thing this moght work

[gritty briar]

ginseng probably helps more

the weapon is oblivion right?

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah fortifying is just a worse ginseng

unless you have a case of like near enough no damage% and also no atk buff

[gritty briar]

would have to be no damage% and a lot of atk buff for ginseng to be worse

[fresh trench]

Let me try it a bit

[gritty briar]

you have oblivion and hot work
you have a ton of damage%

[fresh trench]

She eat all of my meat supply i have for 2 months(since the game launch)

[drifting quest]

time to set up a meat run

[fresh trench]

The sheep consume meat

Her glutton sicken me

[drifting quest]

do the ziplines now

save your sanity in future

[gritty briar]

i think jakubs might be better even

considering how diluted damage% would be

and how undiluted atk% is cause you literally don't have any

[fresh trench]

Aaaa

[drifting quest]

i mean

[pure spoke]

Bbbb

[drifting quest]

is it

maxed ard

l90 oblivion

[gritty briar]

surely it'd be maxed if he's trying a solo trim right?

[drifting quest]

id hope but i would not assume

[gritty briar]

and there's no teammates giving thermite buff or whatever so a jakubs giving 27% attack is just straight up 1.27x damage

no atk% on set or anything

[fresh trench]

Koko desu

[drifting quest]

can you show the like

or not even show

what's your attribute bonus atk%

[fresh trench]

I am going to work

I have a job

[drifting quest]

clueless

it doesnt matter anyway

[fresh trench]

Maxed everything her atk is 450.1 or something

Oh wait 4501

[drifting quest]

323 base + 495 weapon

but its always going to bias jakubs

not by much

so critfishing is probably more valid

[gritty briar]

just to be clear,i meant jakubs might be better than fortifying, not ginseng

i think ginseng still better than both

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah

dam% is saturated

atk is not

[gritty briar]

oblivion gives so much damage% already

and the set too

[drifting quest]

the pieces too

its triple damage% pieces

some 200-300% damage%

[fresh trench]

A i g h t

Priestess help me

I ran out of ideas to improve now

[dry kindle]

Crit better

[gritty briar]

clearly the solution is to max pot everything

[drifting quest]

huh

my formula is off then

[fresh trench]

time to set up dog eletrocution room

[drifting quest]

ah i see it

[fresh trench]

that is so screw up to say 💀

[dry kindle]

Forgot pot?

[drifting quest]

no i was doing

1+ for att

[dry kindle]

🗿

Good job

[drifting quest]

i made this like

a month ago

smh

[dry kindle]

Smh

[drifting quest]

havent used it since

[dry kindle]

Spreading misinformation for a month

[drifting quest]

i never used it so never misinfo

[chilly bolt]

.misinfo

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-pepe-cat-misinformation-gif-249026761315742996

[dry kindle]

Oh yeah yeah

[drifting quest]

its still off but that'll be from something else im missing

its off by like

50attack

wait nvm

im actually just

dumb

haha

it is meant to be 1+

i just typo'd something in

[fresh trench]

dog population will be reduce

[drifting quest]

20s ago

[dry kindle]

🗿

[fresh trench]

to satisfy the sheep glutton

[drifting quest]

i typo'd 0.5x for sec att too

[dry kindle]

🗿

[fresh trench]

its 0.2

[drifting quest]

i know

thats why i said

[fresh trench]

atk inflation lmao

[drifting quest]

i typo'd

[peak void]

would maygi's weapon calcs on tt be reliable

i find it hard to believe that clannibal is actually decent

[dry kindle]

Dps or support

[peak void]

support

[dry kindle]

Its a fine support weapon you just need to yk trigger it

[peak void]

well the thing is

tt cant proc clannibal lol

[dry kindle]

Dies

[peak void]

consume arts reac is such utter cringe

bro thinks hes a striker that deserves to consume arts reac

[dry kindle]

Dw lizhiyan will use it

Trust

[peak void]

anw are there important ult breakpoints for tt that absolutely require OBJ

[chilly bolt]

True but maygi calcs should be fine

[fresh trench]

@gritty briar final strike damage after applied buff and suspicbility on boss
11457 jacob
11007 jinseng
9672 fortifying infusion
it is so over i have nothing else i can do to improve,jinseng is better cause critrate,i can do jacob and pray

it is truly KOKOVER

[chilly bolt]

Jakub and believe in 5% base crit

[fresh trench]

unless i do the ult food,which i can do 1 more ult

but the food supply ran dry now

[rapid heron]

i remember certain Leak focus Youtuber made a TangTang team theory crafting video. I Pointed out that no reason to have alesh on the team without Gilberta. And the reason he gave me is the devs showed the team so it must be optimal. I just walk away after

[open narwhal]

anyone?

im missing 100 for the asernal

i did everything i could

[full stratus]

Not here, go to #clue-exchange-asia or #clue-exchange-na-eu

[open narwhal]

ty

[peak void]

what do we think abt 3x pulsar + xiranite gloves for perlica on LR team

max uge on xiranite gloves in 26.7 for ref

[chilly bolt]

As long as it's enough

[peak void]

thats the thing, idk if its enough

[chilly bolt]

Personally i just go full intensity

[ocean turret]

yo

does opus better for gilberta than stanza?

[peak void]

hell no

go use your box on something else

[chilly bolt]

Opus for dps gil

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

so stanza then

im building gilberta for my rossi team

since she can do both physical and art status to trigger rossi's chain

[open narwhal]

try delivery

its good

[peak void]

the sig is good? no way

[open narwhal]

good looking

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-dog-gif-23018206

im saving for rossi

[open narwhal]

i fear i dont have enough for juan fangyi

[ocean turret]

i dont think i can pull gil's sig when her banneer comes

[open narwhal]

nah

dont

[ocean turret]

wdym dont

[open narwhal]

i lost 70 pulls for that

and its not even that good

i could get tang tang sig with that much arsenal

[ocean turret]

i have 60 pulls rn

[fresh trench]

hope gained,i will solo ardelia trim tonight

after farming lot of meats...

dog population going decline because of gluton sheep

[ocean turret]

may your ardelia win this time

[open narwhal]

why dont we make a sheep farm instead of dog

[icy remnant]

Maxed Umbral

[frozen tide]

Account bricked

Didn't get p5 gm

[icy remnant]

Planning to do that next BP

I was farming for the essence and realised I couldn’t raise it in time

Costing WuLing tickets doesn’t help

[proud vector]

r o s s i i i i

[peak void]

does redeemer kit need artificing here

[frozen tide]

If pulsar 3x xira gloves works

You would only need first tier artificed with seal i think?

Does anyone know if lr xai tt gilb or lr xai tt perli is higher st dmg

[rapid heron]

the crit TangTang strike again

[idle eagle]

when you do tangtang ult for big dmg n use akekuri.. r u supposed to use akekuris ult before tangs ult or just before dive attack?

idk if this is the right chat apologies\

[open narwhal]

nah just ask

nvm go #team-build

[dry kindle]

🗿

[peak void]

im not even sure if that works tbh

[edgy elk]

Visiting from #team-build
Iirc, in an equal length speedkill rotation (1 lrcs+ult), gil>perly
but you’ll have to do corro3->cs4->ult. Rotation’s weird but that’s lr-gil for u
Perly rotation would get an extra lr cs in tho. It’ll be longer but the extra cs will overtake gil damage. Cs4->ult->cs3.

I’m a one shot pony so idk how it looks with loopable rots

[frozen tide]

so gil better for speedkill

perli for extended?

[edgy elk]

that’s what I’m seeing yeah

I’m playtesting all lr tt variants rn, just finished arde yesterday, on to gil today

[edgy elk]

with bonekrusha’s +60% battleskill set bonus, bs tornados do equal damage as ult dive nados (nados are tt’s main dmg window anyway)
Idk if link applies on the ult’s tornados (will playtest now) but even if it does, you’d still rather use link with battleskill. link +30% bs but only +20% ult

Boundary case: tt p5 gets more value from dive nados than bs. In that case, u might want to use link for ult nado IF it works. So I’ll go test link now

wall of text kudos if ur willing to read that^

[idle eagle]

i cant tell if it works

[icy remnant]

Wait huh
Why hotworks over pulsar

Surely Pulsar is better

[gritty briar]

because they want redeemers kit + 3 pieces that all have arts intensity

if you don't need the ult charge from redeemers kit, then you can go the 3 int pieces from pulsar instead

[outer ermine]

thought the group got bigger over an hr but it was just same discussion here too smh schling

anyone doing lrtt speedkills

[edgy elk]

holy shit. this is incredible

data and theoreticals for tangtang + link
link on bs (left): gives +30% on battleskill nados
link on ult (right): gives +20% on ult wave/dot* AND +30% on ult dive nados

so link works on tangtang's ult AND uses separate multipliers. +20% for the ult wave/dot, +30% for the tornados.

also. you must proc link BEFORE pressing ult. proccing link before dive wouldn't do anything

video is data

*i actually didn't calculate ult wave but there's no reason why link wouldn't apply to that

@idle eagle ^
use link on ult

[edgy elk]

me me me
low pot tho

[outer ermine]

thats fine, have u ever fs'ed rhod on air or can u

[dry kindle]

Whel

[edgy elk]

final strike when he's jumping?
havent tried

front aggro or backstab

[outer ermine]

front

[edgy elk]

have u done it? is it possible

[outer ermine]

supposedly but theyre still experimenting so i cant see it yet

[edgy elk]

you'll need some insane fs prepping cuz tt vwoops everywhere
im just lazy so for front starts i open with LR

[outer ermine]

but its the strat to break into 14

[edgy elk]

whel territory

14 seconds after loading is something i'll never relate to

i've only gotten 17 WITH backstab

[outer ermine]

i have 16rn, prob wont hold till next patch

[edgy elk]

im guessing ur p5

[outer ermine]

phy is getting ready for 15, yvonne is coping but also 15

https://vxb23.tv/BV1r9A3zoENV

maybe

[normal tangle]

backround track of doom and despair

[edgy elk]

based jakub xaihi ardelia

[outer ermine]

if they cant do it then im taking over the strat

[edgy elk]

is tt ult faster than an LR fs sequence

can u kill on 3 cryo stacks cs

[outer ermine]

nope rot is too fast not enuf dmg i have to use jakubs even

xai after ult w anim lock is still faster than lr fs

thats what broke into 15 rn

but needs new tech for 14

but losing dmg on lr cuz its a tt fs start

theres lr start w fs to ult but id rather overwrite combo freeze

ive been trying to time rhod jump and lr fs to hit on air too but ye

tt ult idk actually, could be worth exploring

[edgy elk]

yeah nah im trying to brain this but time after loading is such an insane metric

i'm thinking if it's possible to just do 1 fs for xai amp

ur not missing stacks cuz tt's there+ult

if perly replace ardelia 2 tt bs + dive + fs?

idk if u can tt bs while he's midair

[edgy elk]

i have no concept of p5 damage tho so might not be enough without xai's 10% cs debuff

[outer ermine]

maybe

[edgy elk]

so xai on chiv maybe since no cs stack
may not be enough tho

[outer ermine]

tt dmg is pretty spreadout so chiv is just better to cover both

[edgy elk]

oh u use chiv anyway? cool

[outer ermine]

ye looks like lr is the way here

[edgy elk]

lr fs open?

[outer ermine]

just something to play w

[dry kindle]

Whel

[edgy elk]

@outer ermine if u use LR cs to freeze him before tang ult ends shouldnt u get a seamless stunlock

would he stay in the air or smth

[outer ermine]

yea he would lol

lemme play w the stacks a bit

[edgy elk]

at :10 u have 2 sp
so lr fs -> 2 tt bs -> lr cs -> dive (4 stacks) ungabunga?

swap arde for perly?

oh i think u have enough for catastrophe arde too

[outer ermine]

perlica sucks here i dont wanna use ult and elec isnt enuf

[edgy elk]

yeah fair.. half of perly is stanza i forgot

[edgy elk]

does instant arde cs at :10 hit fast enough u think?

sp should be enough to do two tang bs and one arde bs while he's stunlocked by tang ult -> LR cs

dunno if ur capped by anim speed tho

[dry kindle]

Just pull out the return sp set already

[outer ermine]

i was thinking just diving, xai ult 2cs and whatever comes next

[edgy elk]

it's alr on

[dry kindle]

Gg

[outer ermine]

i need to be on tt to anicancel for fast stacks

[smoky quarry]

the woes of the whale

[edgy elk]

if just dive wouldnt u get kb

[outer ermine]

i iframe w xai ult

idk its doable tho

i forgor

[edgy elk]

xai ult has iframe????

enlighten plz

[outer ermine]

or no way

im back to swaps

https://vxb23.tv/BV123ABzgE7T
the nightmare

[edgy elk]

i'll try out some stuff too
if i get ideas can i send u

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-5264665088346427047

ill try all of em atp

[edgy elk]

oH now i get why u put ur controlls on left side

[outer ermine]

claw supremacy

[edgy elk]

i'll do it with one hand
too late to learn muscle memory for this

i think im onto smthing tho if i werent 手残 today

[dapper mason]

something to ask about rot i found on tiktok

i tried this. does this rot trigger art sus from TT

[edgy elk]

oh yes but only 5%

[dapper mason]

so i can use xiranite set right ?

[edgy elk]

test it urself if xira's more dmg tho

[dapper mason]

okay thank you

[dusk isle]

yinglung lr use redeemer hand right

[ocean turret]

Just completed 3 maps

[dapper mason]

1 whirpool = 1 cyro infliction and 2 whirpools = 1 cyro infliction and art sus ? am i correct ?

[edgy elk]

bs and ult consumes whirls. 5% arts susc per whirl consumed

u get cryo stack no matter whether u consume whirls or not, as long as u bs or ult dive

[dapper mason]

alright i see now . bs always give cyro stack

[outer ermine]

tt ult is long af ngl

[edgy elk]

4 seconds?

or the cutscene

[outer ermine]

cutscene

im on phone so i cant even check

shits like 2.86 or sum

[normal tangle]

boss gets staggered and you're forced to watch a mandatory 15 seconds of characters posing

interactive gameplay