#theorycrafting

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fresh trench
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100 standee

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random

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@bronze plume

icy remnant
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They seem to keep doing these merch events

normal tangle
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free advertising

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everyone with a shirt is just a walking billboard

river scroll
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imagine being a living billboard for free

fresh trench
river scroll
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paying to be a billboard PerliStareYou

fierce nest
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anyone ran the numbers on how much one would have to swipe in a banner? Assuming 0 pull currency and 120 pulls

glass wind
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Is getting that Rapid Ascent from Weekly Store worth?

rare zodiac
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nah

near radish
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hi all wondering what would be good to work on next for my phys team sorry for long post, ty!

endmin 80/90, grand vision 90 (5/6/3), skills 9/9/m1/9, gear half artificed

pog 80/90, never rest 80/80 (4/4/3), skills 6/m1/m1/m1, gear barely artificed

lifeng 80/80, valiant 80/80 (5/4/3), skills 9/9/9/9, gear somewhat artificed on ex

chen 80/80, sundering 80/80 (5/5/3), skills 6/6/9/6, gear not really artificed

smoky quarry
normal tangle
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only need 110 pulls because you get a free 10, and you get some return from the red pity currency

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if you don't have any "double value" deals, then a bit more than that

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roughly around 220

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can't get any more precise than that due to how much rng there is

normal tangle
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even using the most expensive origeo pack (theoretically best value) it's around $2.5/pull

frosty zinc
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theres 2 packs you buy with 1x10 and 10x1 pulls. u get 10 from store/event. so u need 90 from there. the largest orb pack u can buy gives 36.3 pulls. id say youll likeyl buy the 2 tickets packs + 2x the biggest yellow orb pack. then buy remaining limited tickets from store with the red currency u get from 5/6 stars. what ever thats worth in your currency

normal tangle
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oh i forgot about the 10pull bundles you're so true

frosty zinc
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depending on your exchange and currency id say $200 to $300 something like that

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also the free 10 u get doesnt count towards the garruntee so i dont include it. but u could include the dossier if u have it from previous banner etc

smoky quarry
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the pack for america is 100 dollars per 350 originium

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350*75/500=52.5 pulls

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A whopping 1.9 dollars per pull, or 5% margin error from me
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I have some kind of evil regional price, cause for me 1 pull costs 2.5 dollars, despite having x3 annual income difference with america

71 dollar for 194 originium

knotty yoke
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Also pro tip, if anyone has a Costco/Sam’s Club membership and plays on ps5, you can get psn gift cards at a 10-20% discount depending on sales. But their normal price is a $100 gift card for $90

smoky quarry
normal tangle
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these are just the packs

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idk what evil 100 dollar pack you're talking about

gaunt mason
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on the top up website

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it's 320 + 80 free

normal tangle
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what top up website

gaunt mason
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official

normal tangle
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yeah but like what is it

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i didn't even know one existed

gaunt mason
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?

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it's just the first result when you search endfield top up

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the gryphline website

smoky quarry
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sorry, my bad

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their pulls are the most expansive on the market btw

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I guess this is the way they want to separate themselves from competitors

normal tangle
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i lowk never pay attention to the paid currency economy because i don't spend anyway, but yeah it's pretty greedy

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no clue what other games are like though

smoky quarry
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average on gachas is 2$

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people let gryphline do a lot of shit without getting backlash, huh

bronze plume
civic wolf
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how do you improve Xaihi's healing

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for uh, Agony run survivability

frosty zinc
fossil pendant
civic wolf
shrewd saffron
fossil pendant
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or not monaihe I forget the weapon name

fossil pendant
smoky quarry
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site offers you european prices if you log from european

frosty zinc
civic wolf
frosty zinc
civic wolf
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oh so i have to etch my detonation main att to boost her will

frosty zinc
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yes, but leveling/tuning a weapon levels the cap on each wep trait allowing the essence to level it

digital ruin
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Where is best to farm quilbeast and rakerbeast?

gaunt mason
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the other packs are closer than that

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it's $70 for 194+48 free

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i think it's basically the same rate for all packs in usd, idk how they handle exchange rates

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they usually do 1:1 for usd -> gbp except for a few packs which is really weird

smoky quarry
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didn't knew about that PerliDerp

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Math checks out, 1.9 dollars per pull

south bloom
digital ruin
south bloom
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and for quilbeast i farmed in this part

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pretty sure there's more but i forgot where

digital ruin
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I see, this helps a lot

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I don't think they will appear on the next alluvium update so ig we have to farm em manually then

south bloom
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👍

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good luck with that, took me a whole day

edgy crater
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what?

plucky flax
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I’ve been running Laev on an ult gain chest, but she seems entirely built around her own energy refund mechanics so I’m wondering if I’m just wasting a gear piece?

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Or does it get her to a relevant breakpoint

dry kindle
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Breakpoint

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Only need like 104 for said breakpoint tho

icy remnant
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I just E4ed Akekuri for her DiJiang skill

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I’m gonna make up for it in approximately 5 years

solar nimbus
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Has anyone tested arclight on fortmaker and see how it compares with OBJ edge?

odd wren
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Man its so hars to artifice the cupri gears

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Im stucked xd

terse raptor
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Just be lucky PerliWheeze

odd wren
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At 180% ult damage for chen

rare zodiac
twilit quail
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it's not that black and white

dry kindle
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Where thermite smh

proud vector
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Me, counting down the days until the banner changes >.>

lusty niche
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14.6% crit rate worth the sacricife to use lynx slab on yvonne all gears max arti

tough roost
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Guys hear me out

Ardelia p5 exclusive cycle on lae team

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N5 > ardel combo > wait for 10 seconds > ardel bs > N5 > ardel combo > wait 10 sec > lae kaboom

terse valley
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can't even say FS like a normal person smh my head

tough roost
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FS is cringe. Finisher is cringe

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N5 and Stagger Strike sounds dope

chilly bolt
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obr

rapid heron
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certain youtuber took off a piece of gear ,still have everything equip and said that's 30% DMG less cause Prydwen said the piece is 24% more solo DMG compare to no gears equip. I Cant anymore

shrewd saffron
drifting quest
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misinformation is certainly rampant

rapid heron
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@Official_Zimen
4 days ago (edited)
BuffedAttack = [(Character Base ATK + Weapon Base ATK) × ( MainAttribute × Attack% + RawAttack )] × [(1 + MainAttribute% × 0.005) + SecondaryAttribute × (1 + SecondaryAttribute% × 0.002)]

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this is his DMG formula for his Spreadsheet

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it wrong from the start

fresh trench
rapid heron
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nice

smoky quarry
wispy whale
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The numbers they don't want you to crunch. Let this sink in 200k for a loaf of hard bread. When perlica asks you to send her 30k she is just begging to buy 2 slices of bread. So Endfield spread cancer and sell food and medicine for insane prices, is Endmin actually the bad guy?

wispy whale
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at least in Wuling you can get a bowl of rice for 300k

rigid yew
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can we get more furry character like this? and pls let her out from npc jail

next helm
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Thats a character in AK?

smoky quarry
rugged vale
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npc

chilly bolt
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what's the consensus on laevatin hotwork slab build again?

rugged vale
smoky quarry
next helm
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On first guess I would say it is a pretty good insert of that hasbin hotel spinoff character

chilly bolt
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but i guess it's kinda the same thing

smoky quarry
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you'll need pot4 to actually pull this off

chilly bolt
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ok so like if pot4 then it's better? PerliDerp

smoky quarry
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you can't use it without pot4 pretty much, rotation will be broken

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the 15% ult efficiency is mandatory to fit into 2s2c

next helm
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Is there no Tangtang perlica sheet?

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Or is it just not good enough

chilly bolt
next helm
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Yeah

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Yvonne out perlica in

chilly bolt
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It's literally just xaihi + 2 of ardelia/gilberta/perlica

twilit quail
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I didnt make anything for it because the return on investment is like

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shockingly poor

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without key pots

next helm
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Yeah the return on investment on me playing yvonne is also poor

twilit quail
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if I ever make something for team with tangtang in featured spot it would be tangtang shatter lmao

edgy crater
twilit quail
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it looks like extended 4 corro yeah

edgy crater
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unless u really need p4+ tang2

wispy whale
twilit quail
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but without tangtang p4

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and gil p3

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your gear sucks ass and has no dmg

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if you cant kill in 1 burst

edgy crater
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bruh p4 tang2 p3 ange

twilit quail
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you need both of those

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to take 4 dmg pieces on tt

smoky quarry
wispy whale
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in any cases it doesnt help them much with the inflation that high

drifting quest
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TT dps extended rots are pretty miserable but the frontload is quite nice

wispy whale
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and valley IV can't even produce water PerliDerp

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id imagine them needing to buy bottled water from wuling and the price could be imagined

smoky quarry
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(they can't buy it cause they don't have wuling bills)

wispy whale
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but more importantly why cant we buy any chubby lungs with stockbills in wuling? Its the gift that everyone wants but nobody can buy PerliCopium

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constantly out of stock like fumo or something

smoky quarry
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you can buy chubby langs

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it's silica good

frozen tide
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Where does that dmg come from

drifting quest
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p5p5s

frozen tide
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When does tt banner end again

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Im gonna swipe fuck it

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She looks broken

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Gonna get every limited char p0 atp

dry kindle
drifting quest
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or like

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a few days after rather

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this sunday

frozen tide
pine lily
# frozen tide She looks broken

well
she can do everything

dps (both sub and main dps), cyro app, SP refund, slow and time stop to freeze even boss, debuffs on enemies both arts suscept and (with sig) arts dmg

only thing she cant do is healing

drifting quest
frozen tide
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Guess it depends on definition

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~+30% total dmg increase for lr comp as well as rotation stability and flexibility sounds like a w to me

drifting quest
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she doesnt eclipse any existing teams nor is the gap from no tt to tt in lr/yvonne hugely apparent

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+30% team dps increase sounds

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sketch

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would be interested to see where it came from

frozen tide
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"Notes
Tangtang is a significant boost to Last Rite's performance, offering both greatly improved stability and damage(around 35% DPS increase)."

drifting quest
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thats alongside a new lr setup

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id have to see the calcs

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but 35% is abnormal amount compared to other tc

frozen tide
drifting quest
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uge chest yeah

frozen tide
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Vibes wise makes sense to me

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From just solo hypercarry to two dps

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With a good amount of buffs still

drifting quest
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gotta factor in buff alignment, uptime, burst window, losses from the slot you dropped, rotation length, etc

frozen tide
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Rot should speed up if anything

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Buff alignment i have no fucking clue tbh

swift onyx
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So chen should be using glorious, new yinlung pieces for set and redeemer gloves?
Feels so weird

next helm
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In content where you want to ult multiple times

drifting quest
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for most people in most cases, if they will invest in dupes of glorious memory, it is an upgrade universally

next helm
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I believe

drifting quest
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yinglung is a 'sidegrade' in that you exchange stagger for personal damage

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if you do not need the stagger then you can go yinglung

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if you need the stagger you stick to sm

swift onyx
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I meant more the set itself, memory is an upgrade quite obviously so its fine
Just the yinlong set feels weird after using sm till now

pure spoke
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Mi fu when

swift onyx
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For you, never

next helm
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If you ult once in a fight and hit a random ass mob with Chen

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I don't think ult build is better Klee_Derp

smoky quarry
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All theorycrafting is based around beating bosses

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you can literally slot this for overworld and still win

wispy whale
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endmin can litterally just end everything in the overworld with a crush

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chen and perlica watching.. just use the story team

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4th slot for guest story character PeperlicaOK

smoky quarry
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is gonna be expansive in wuling

drifting quest
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you can use practically anything for all content

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the story team has trimmed everything

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endmin chen perlica wulfgard

smoky quarry
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I need more team slots

ocean turret
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does electrification and arts susceptibility does the same thing?

eager hawk
drifting quest
ocean turret
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Perlithonk elaborate

terse raptor
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nothing major tho

drifting quest
# ocean turret <:Perlithonk:1145586365275312189> elaborate

Damage= Attack × BaseMultiplier × MultiplierGroup × CriticalMultiplier × AmpMultiplier × StaggerMultiplier × FinisherMultiplier × LinkMultiplier × WeakenMultiplier × SusceptibilityMultiplier × IncreasedDMGTakenMultiplier × DMGReductionMultiplier × ProtectionMultiplier × DefenseMultiplier × ResistanceMultiplier

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long formula

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Just important to know that Damage Taken is a separate 'bracket' from susceptibility

ocean turret
drifting quest
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e.g. Level 1 Electrification (P3 or lower Perlica Combo) = 12% Damage Taken

If you then have 10% (Tangtang 3 Whirlpool)

The way it would work is
1.12 x 1.1 = 1.232

If they were the same it would be
1+ (0.12+0.1) = 1.22

pure spoke
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damn solo chen with max pot GM just did 236k dmg with chen ult at last hit. without foodbuff thats nuts

drifting quest
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General Endfield damage max idea is to dip into as many multiplicative brackets as possible

ocean turret
drifting quest
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But thats a massive tangent, the tldr is Electrification is Arts Damage Taken

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Wild Wanderer is Arts Damage Dealt

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Damage Dealt and Damage Taken are distinct as well

ocean turret
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oh right

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Perlithonk its a buff not a debuff

drifting quest
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There's some extra nuance in that Damage Dealt is applied to the allied operator, while damage taken is applied to the enemy

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but for the most part since there's no real aoe content that isnt super relevant

ocean turret
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fair enough

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thanks for clarifying

quasi quarry
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does Crush damage get buffed by skill specific bonuses for the type of skill it's triggered by or is it completely separate from the skill

terse valley
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they're separate

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skill dmg% doesnt affect crush dmg caused by said skill

pure spoke
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arts int gaming

ocean turret
fresh trench
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I will stop here now,luck isnt on my side today

river scroll
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almost there PerliStare

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is she maxed tho?

fresh trench
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I still believe i can trim with her (DELUSIONAL IS REAL) but i just wanna take a break a bit to stream "my little puppy"

fresh trench
# river scroll is she maxed tho?

i have to make it crit at the stagger finisher and make the ult while they stagger crit like atleast 3-4 times the scale is huge there,this run she only crit finisher and ult 1 times and her skill once,i think if everything align i can kill him while he stagger,but i am too tired right now to try

modest thorn
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Endfield needs more content to distract Ardelia trimmers

fresh trench
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I only did this cause i actually have nothing else todo lmao

fresh trench
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like

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1 second

river scroll
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is her essence maxed already?

fresh trench
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I LAUGHING MY ASS OFF SO BAD WHAT IS THIS LMAO

normal heron
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How did I take this scape...

outer ermine
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ICANT that was pretty lucky, game pushing me to go crit

signal sundial
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bruh i just 3 tapped my gloves on 1 line

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noice

wispy shuttle
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love it when that happens, got a line in 4 earlier

signal sundial
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easiest weeklies ever

trim cipher
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What is the consensus on Chen set? Do we take the new one with more dmg/ult rotation with lower stagger or keep the stagger set?
Is this set worth artificing?

drifting quest
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personal pref

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both are valid and viable

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which is better depends on what you need

trim cipher
drifting quest
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need stagger for the content? swordmancer
dotn need stagger for the content? yinglung

trim cipher
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stagger for bosses?

drifting quest
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any content

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bosses, elites

trim cipher
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well physical team is my boss killing team usually

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laev team is the normal content/aoe team

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because it's mid af compared to meta physical team

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so I guess I'll need stagger more?

chilly bolt
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What crates? Surprise crate from bp?

drifting quest
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it depends

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try it yourself and see

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depends on gear on the other units

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what you fight

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your rotation

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your individual skill and speed of the rot

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etc

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i cannot give you an answer for what i do not know

next helm
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Has phys surpassed laev?

drifting quest
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as always

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it depends

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there is no generic answer

trim cipher
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Depends on what bro Laev team aside from Laev is hot garbage compared to the Physical team. Nobody but laev is doing damage on that team

drifting quest
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?

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so what

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one is a hypercarry team

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one is not

trim cipher
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until we get a featured heat support laev team will be inferior to meta physical team

drifting quest
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this is just untrue and dishonest to suggest as fact

trim cipher
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like a 6* wulfgard or akekuri

trim cipher
drifting quest
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a hypercarry team is one where one unit does almost all of the damage while the rest of the slots enable them, yes

trim cipher
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if we get a heat sub-dps/support that can also deal damage it's gonna be much better

drifting quest
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pre tangtang both last rite and yvonne teams were this as well

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electric is the same in some rotations

trim cipher
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no idea on them only played physical and heat so far

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physical is strong but MAN it's expensive

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literally every single member is a dps

drifting quest
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that isnt true either

trim cipher
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wym

drifting quest
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pog never did damage and now in 1.1 lifeng damage share shrunk as well

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its a dual dps team at this point

trim cipher
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idk lifeng ult does pretty insane dmg

drifting quest
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equal to the tangtang (yvonne/lr) teams

trim cipher
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especially for aoe

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pog is mostly for breach yeah but with his sig he does decent dmg also

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nothing better than a full stacked da pan pan into the face tho

drifting quest
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if that is your opinion I would struggle to change your mind

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so i will not bother

chilly bolt
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Pog dps POGranichnik

outer ermine
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looks like im keeping the record this patch if noone figures out how to break 15

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there is a very scary yvonne trial run tho ICANT but i dont think whel yvonne can do it cuz too dmg will push to phase2 so a lowpot might be able to

next helm
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Lifeng damage share should be higher in an aoe sense

outer ermine
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maybe doable actually PerliDerp i need yvonne

warm galleon
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Rossi banner is my last chance to lose 5050 to Yvon PerliWaaaaa

fresh trench
warm galleon
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If not well p4 Yvon til rerun PerliDerp

quartz horizon
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i just prefer her over last rite who I'm using atm

fresh trench
outer ermine
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tt on catastrophe duty ICANT

chilly bolt
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you also play yvonne?

outer ermine
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i have her

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i dont have enuf ai for the stagger to test damn

summer narwhal
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Investing in Glorious Memory, with? I guess it's one of the best for Chen right now

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I also have Sundering Steel at pot 3

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If I'm reading it right

chilly bolt
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yes worth it if you want to chen maxing

outer ermine
summer narwhal
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I don't think she'll replace Chen, but I don't know

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That and I have little to no pulls right now

chilly bolt
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the answer is always just wait and see

outer ermine
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who has max yvonne PerliStareYou

summer narwhal
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But the sword is solid?

chilly bolt
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currently yes it is the strongest bp weapon we have

summer narwhal
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I can get 4 pots out of it I guess

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So I'll do that

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I gave Tangtang the BP gun

chilly bolt
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hmm

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i would just use wedge on tt

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unless you have yv and she is also using that

daring dove
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For me Yvonne just isn't that valuable.

neat snow
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My Yvonne is 5 5

daring dove
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Tangtang is a better DPS than her anyway.

outer ermine
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PerliStareYou can u clap rhod rq just wanna see if u make stagger

neat snow
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I got no idea how to play her never used 🙂

outer ermine
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and all 4 cs, tt bs and gil ult

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stagger gil, catastrophe tt ICANT if max pot staggers

outer ermine
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had to wait till tt lol

daring dove
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I got P9 Sundred Prince though. 091_Run

outer ermine
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ICANT i full pitied 3 times didnt get lucky till tt

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i got like 9 yvonnes and 2 of her sig by that time

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i have so much yvonne boxes

dense widget
outer ermine
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thats unartificed lol thats why i wanna see built yvonne if she can stagger b4 or not

dense widget
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No way

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I might just be bad

outer ermine
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PerliWheeze its full pot dw ur good

daring dove
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That's assuming Rossi isn' 3x better than Yvonne otherwise I'mma prioritize her. 091_Run

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I have a sneaky suspicion Tangtang + Rossi might be kinda broken.

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Although Tangtang + anything is kinda broken.

outer ermine
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PerliFumo supreme chief moment

dense widget
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Considering current characters

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Not bad though

daring dove
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Tangtang will enabler her a million times better than that bum Wulfguard does though.

south bloom
daring dove
dense widget
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🤔

south bloom
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since gilb ult does use vuln but does not directly consume them

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but even pog's breach does not benefit rossi in any way possible

daring dove
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That's the only two stack consumers that make sense.

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Although I assume 1.2 or 1.3 will fix that.

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I hope Rossi isn't too reliant of heat stacks though, otherwie she'll have to be really good to make her worth bothering with.

keen karma
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chat i need a guinea pig

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to confirm this anomaly

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"lifeng bs (1 vuln) 8% - chen cs (2 vuln) - lifeng ult seq 1 (3 vuln) 16% - lifeng ult seq 2 (4 vuln) 24+16%"

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aethertech: if ALREADY 4 vuln, +16%
lifeng applies 4th vuln, +16%

wispy shuttle
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you apply 4th vuln, but not 4th+ vuln

keen karma
hollow swan
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Akekuri recovers 70 SP total across the 3 flares right?

wispy shuttle
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it seems like you get 2x 8% + 16% ?

keen karma
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3x8=24%

daring dove
keen karma
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on the 4th, +16%

craggy pond
keen karma
craggy pond
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the first one is 10% + 8%*3 + 16%

keen karma
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4 vuln only

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not 4+

wispy shuttle
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seems like you arent given the 4th stack of 8%. maybe the game checks after applying vuln

edgy elk
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Basically they mean there’s a skill description error

craggy pond
wispy shuttle
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didnt say that

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and no

keen karma
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with chen, lifeng only applied 3 vuln

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3x8

wispy shuttle
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i can go and try this as well

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do you get a different buff icon for the 16% buff?

edgy elk
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I meant @keen karma is saying aethertech set bonus description is weird
it says “if the target ALREADY has 4 vul”…
But it actually includes when Lifeng applies 4th vul

craggy pond
keen karma
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yes

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its a diff icon

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for +16

wispy shuttle
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do you get it after lifeng applies the 4th vuln?

keen karma
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yes he does

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oddly

craggy pond
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just need a video and everything is clear

keen karma
craggy pond
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we just need to see when the second buff appears

wispy shuttle
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can you do lifeng skill into link buffed ult, with akekuri or something?

keen karma
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no links

wispy shuttle
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thatll do all 4 in one go

keen karma
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specifically

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nothing more nothing less

wispy shuttle
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im suggesting you try, that is all

keen karma
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i havent tested out lifeng with linked ult

edgy elk
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let’s see if I got the gist of this convo

  1. Lifeng gets 8% per vuln applied. This is normal.
  2. Lifeng gets 16% when he applies the 4th stack. This doesn’t match aethertech skill description. Skill description has you believe he gets the bonus effect when applying vuln on a target with 4 stacks already.

Sums it up? @keen karma
I’ll test it now

keen karma
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yes

edgy elk
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Design wise I’d be skeptical if they’d force u to waste a vuln stack just for lousy 16% PerliWheeze
But tl error is an error I guess

craggy pond
#

the main confusion here is "already"

keen karma
#

yeah

craggy pond
#

the existence of that word denies basically every theory possible of it being a misunderstanding

#

it's either tl error or the set is bugged

drifting quest
#

EN TL is historically terrible

keen karma
#

or lifeng

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if lifeng procs this i wanna test chen

drifting quest
#

but this is also just how the game is coded

wispy shuttle
#

you can still consume the vuln and continue building up to 4 stacks, so it might be weird but not broken

drifting quest
#

Aethertech has 2 different proc conditionals and it checks them sequentially

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because there is no stack overflow accounted for it just checks if you are at 4 stacks

gritty briar
#

tl just doesn't know what already means

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same thing with xaihi skill saying you have to already be at full hp

fossil pendant
#

from a design perspective it seems pretty unlikely that they'd have a proc condition where you overcap a status

#

en tl always awful in gacha anyways

drifting quest
#

xaihi's works identically

#

it checks sequentially

craggy pond
#

but ig the tl is just incorrect

wispy shuttle
#

its like, applies vuln -> check count, rather than the reverse

#

the reverse is necessary to implement the "already"

drifting quest
#

if it were the reverse you would have conditions where you can proc the 4th stack bonus > consume stacks > apply stack with the 'wasted' skill

#

whether that is more or less balanced is up to you

#

much harder to abuse

gritty briar
#

if the reverse was the case with xaihi, it would be clunky and annoying

drifting quest
#

that too

gritty briar
#

poison gas would make it impossible to trigger as well

wispy shuttle
#

thankfully it isnt

warped sinew
#

got W essence (without etching) for Glorious Memory PerliFumo

drifting quest
#

hoping for the EF patch to happen soon

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but given the trend its prob not until the day of

quartz horizon
#

whats ef

drifting quest
#

endfield

quartz horizon
#

what patch

next helm
#

second part of 1.1

quartz horizon
civic wolf
#

Sigged Lava and Tangtang, Yvonne using the yellow guns

So i should pick Glorious Memory rite

drifting quest
#

wait and see what the future brings

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unless you need / want the upgrade and are happy to make the investment

civic wolf
#

damn

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how much diff is P0 Sundering Steel vs Glorious Memory anyway

hollow swan
#

cooked up this Flourite Wulf combustion team rotation for nuking protocol spaces. my characters are only lvl 60 e3 atm though so it's not quite a full clear.

daring dove
#

P0 Memory will be around P2-P3 Sundering performance.

drifting quest
#

30-35s is pretty brutal clear time for protocol spaces

#

most fold in 5-10s

hollow swan
#

at what level of investment?

#

also we're talking about less than a minute of your time. my point isn't to provide the best of the best of the best sir.

#

its just a fun thing you can do

drifting quest
#

average endgame investment

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80/90, no artificing, maybe not even essences, sl9, etc

hollow swan
#

tangtang can't even use 2 combo skills in 10s like idk that just seems off to me.

daring dove
hollow swan
#

i could see it. single combo ult i guess?

#

with like xaihi buffs

daring dove
hollow swan
#

oh damn thats wild

normal tangle
#

why is it always the tcred space

edgy crater
#

easy to kill + spawn near each other\

daring dove
edgy crater
#

yeah lmao

outer ermine
#

PerlicaImpostor ight bring it yvonne im ready for ur ass

edgy crater
#

better sequence?

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo faster fs

edgy crater
oak vigil
#

On protocol spaces we mean the ones where you get mats, right?

dry kindle
hollow swan
# oak vigil On protocol spaces we mean the ones where you get mats, right?

yea exactly. ive been testing on the credits one since its just the poison mist modifier. a lot of the setup in that rotation just to proc wedge for flourite and get a fat corrosion out of it. could potentially drop that part and go straight into combustions. it seems like reaction damage is heavily limited by character level as well. like iirc the level modifier for arts reactions is more impactful than for physical status.

outer ermine
#

hmm ranging between 15.9-16.1
havent gotten another 15 PerliDerp not worth grinding unless theres competition ig

dry kindle
#

Fund my tangtang

bold rose
#

anyone got the math for P5 Stanza vs P0 Sig for Gilb in Yvonne/TT/XH?

outer ermine
hollow swan
#

in practice i seem to get a considerable amount more SP than is show in Endaxis

#

dude has really high heat resist as well. B is the highest resist ive seen from any mob in the game.

edgy crater
#

assuming u using fluorite mdps

hollow swan
#

the idea is to do big aoe with combustion. flourite is doing a lot of single target but i don't want to invest too much into her. originally i was on fielding Wulfgard because i wanted him to be the star of the show but then i pulled Wedge and it just makes more sense to on-field Flourite now since i switched her to crit MI Security set.

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i think hot work is falling off in between wulf ulting and doin his cs

#

also realized i canceled gilb bs early with her ult. didn't even know you could do that. i thought she was locked for the whole animation.

#

the dog is taking double the damage the arsonist is from the combustion dot even with the 4 stack corrosion. thats crazy

#

nvm this was a bad run i fucked up the rotation and some weird shit happened. the arsonist only had one stack of nature. i didn't flourite bs before her ult. didn't have enough sp to do it actually.

#

somehow that dog ended up with 3 stacks of nature while the arsonist had 1

normal tangle
#

how bad is the poverty lifeng option (chimeric steel)

hollow swan
#

pretty bad apparently. like the 4* weapon is better.

normal tangle
hollow swan
#

even at max potential comparison too iirc

#

i think ive got a better rotation here. don't even need Wulf P5.

outer ermine
#

ICANT brainded

edgy crater
outer ermine
#

oh weong clip

edgy crater
#

oh yeah hifu, my lr cant do 1m on 3rd slash

#

yinglung ulti kit cant reach it

outer ermine
#

ye its like 15.6 or sum

edgy crater
outer ermine
#

p3?

edgy crater
#

nope p2p2

#

now at 932k

outer ermine
#

oh damn u full artif already?

edgy crater
#

n theres no way 2 str can give 70kPerliWheeze

outer ermine
#

time to p3

edgy crater
#

nah, ill get p5 pog 1st before p3 lr

outer ermine
#

is that w jakubs crit

edgy crater
#

ye jacub crit

wanton condor
#

how much ult regen does Akekuri need?

tough nest
# edgy crater

how does tide surge compete with this? looks much better

steep holly
edgy crater
edgy crater
#

not gonna recomend it

tough nest
#

i already have tide surge fully upgraded too sadly

dry kindle
dry kindle
edgy crater
dry kindle
edgy crater
dry kindle
neon knot
#

is artificing the agi on yvonne's gear worth it?

forest ermine
hollow swan
#

one sec

forest ermine
hollow swan
#

i couldn't say. only use it on PC.

forest ermine
#

Ah ok, thx btw

#

Maybe I'll try to not unga bunga with yvonne lol

hollow swan
#

yw. happy to share it ive been enjoying it quite a bit

#

its not perfect like there are some things that are kind of strange but it seems accurate for the most part

#

like i had to manually add the SP recovery to Akekuri ult

fresh trench
#

TODAY WE TRIM BOSS WITH ARDELIA

#

RELEASE ME HYPERGRAPH

edgy crater
fresh trench
edgy crater
odd wren
drifting quest
#

the team giga overkills to begin with

fresh trench
odd wren
#

Ngl i didnt even have physical susc debuff on rhod there lol

granite marten
#

have tangtang sets been finished?

quartz horizon
#

but at the end of the day its like +/- 10%

granite marten
#

i do care about that 10% tho RosThink

#

ig i'll just keep waiting

quartz horizon
#

i'd say its up there

forest ermine
#

What is the theoretical team for rossi?

fresh trench
chilly raft
#

i got it

#

damn got the right one boost alot of damage

#

my atk like 300 more points

tight haven
#

anything anyone tells you in response is so tentative as to be useless

outer ermine
#

PerliStareYou u pulling rossi enion?

fossil pendant
#

for what reason does this chungus weapon even exist

odd wren
south bloom
#

what in the whale

#

i need 4 more grand visions

fossil pendant
#

I need 5 more grand visions

#

my crush so wimpy

#

only like 360k with everything up albeit I havent maxed the artifice nor the lifeng susc

hardy rose
chilly raft
bronze plume
#

for something with the name white night nova youd think it would serve a purpose other then the dust pan

chilly raft
#

Sometime its not what it is

pale flint
feral heron
#

I'm kinda desperate for a thermite cutter.. this isn't worth it right? I already have gilberta's signature

chilly raft
#

Welp im not suggest you get sig for supporter that much if you pay with limit or f2p

#

Yellow tier weapon i see, its useable

feral heron
#

I basically haven't built pog or arclight because of no thermite

chilly raft
#

Isnt arc have a yellow sig

#

Let me check

feral heron
#

i wanted to play pog chen estella gilberta

#

I bought the detonation unit when it was on store thankfully but I haven't built avy team because of arclight lol

chilly raft
#

Yeah she have that weapon look like her color twelve questions

bronze plume
#

just because its a characters "sig" doesnt mean its there best option

chilly raft
#

Well its somewhat made for them right?

#

Like the wolf dude and his gun

#

Even it seem like there is a better weapon

bronze plume
#

i mean yeah but clannibal is mid af for wulf

fresh trench
#

Desperate time called for "desperate measure"

feral heron
#

is cohesive traction cope for avy? I still haven't opened JET

chilly raft
#

Im hella lucky with the roll so i never run in these kind of situation

#

I got thermite like the first day in game

bronze plume
#

i mean it was literally in one of the selector crates you get so like

feral heron
#

sundering prince >_<

south bloom
#

JET is not on the sundering prince/thermite cutter crate

feral heron
potent hornet
#

so wait, where do we buy that essence selector?

fresh trench
#

The one you use money from camp trading

#

It sold there for 3.5 m

potent hornet
#

stock redistribution?

rapid heron
#

For who ever afraid of "feelcrafting" you might want to to look away. Rossi stats will be Agi-Int. Cause in her showcase during the devblog her HP was 5k6 . And that align with Ops that doesnt have secondary stats with STR. SO her BiS gears going be to be for lynx enjoyer ( nothing gonna change you with your bigger number chasing)

pine lily
potent hornet
terse raptor
#

stock redistribution in valley 4

pine lily
rapid heron
#

and more consistant option will be and a chest either MI Security or Yinglung or Frontier

potent hornet
#

i have so many material selectors now

marble iris
#

Finally maxed this greatsword for my Da Pan. Once I max out my gear set I can't wait to test out his crush numbers

fresh trench
#

again and again until the dream withing our grasp rocinante!!!

quartz horizon
#

rossi already heals

proud vector
#

not sure what the idea with this one is other than ember gaining a little damage from rossi buff i guess?

south bloom
#

feelcrafting time

#

time to doompost everyone who dont have gilb

quartz horizon
#

fuck you PerliWaaaaa

proud vector
#

cope time the majority of ult damage is talent 2 triggers which are p h y s i c a l

south bloom
proud vector
#

PerliFumo annnnd thats why its cope

rapid heron
#

Not worth u are going physical focus and both rossiand ember need to be controlled OP

#

Her ult DMg prob the same or just a bit higher than Chen

#

Her DMg profile won't be more than 35 percent ult

frosty zinc
rapid heron
#

Xd

frosty zinc
#

loud and proud 😄 rossi is my forever pack leader

quartz horizon
#

no thanks

#

she's cool

#

have u built and played her

rapid heron
quartz horizon
rapid heron
#

Oh wait

frosty zinc
rapid heron
#

The glove is ult DMg also right?

#

Yeah then it prob better but if we talking highest DMg potential it still going to be 3 mi security and slab

#

Even though u lose crit but so many people prefer higher number on spreadsheet and spend 2 h fishing for that crit video instead of a build that work 100% of the time

frosty zinc
#

purely depends on what her weapon talent be doing. if it gives crit in any way i can shuffle pieces but if it gives like stacking crti damg ill prob want what ive built with higher crit. if not ill prob swap to what you list with slab

#

is the main attritube from slab of a certain amount or is it of total with everything inclusive??

south bloom
#

whan in the L take is this

rapid heron
#

Inclusive

#

It just % of total stats after all calculation. And it's additive

#

So multiple % will add together before final calculate and not stacking over eachother

frosty zinc
#

yea just did the math on it, is of total which is crazy i thought it was only like 20% of the stats given by equipment

#

stat change swapping to an unleveled slab from one of my max kits

#

the gear is sitting on my flourite for reference 😄

#

add 7% crit cause my wedge on her isnt maxed and im def maxing rossi and her wep haha

rapid heron
#

but you lose out on your crit consistancy on any crit base character

frosty zinc
#

so its either 13% crit or like 300 atk give or take

rapid heron
#

prob

#

300 ATK is like 7-8% increase in total DMG if your character DMG is around 5-5.5k

#

13% crit is like 6.5% total DMG increase compare to base and higher the crit DMG is

frosty zinc
#

compounding increase on the MI set too as it gives 25% atk at max

rapid heron
#

you always run MI security set bonus on both slab or no slab build anyway

#

so it doesnt matter

#

it change the % increase but too small to effect final result

frosty zinc
#

yea but that 300 becomes 400 due to that, MI gives 5% crit to. id like to have her at 50% crit

dry kindle
#

Just be luckier

rapid heron
#

i dont think it;s goes from 300-400

#

cause ATK calculation not like that

frosty zinc
#

ahh fair enough

dry kindle
#

Wut

rapid heron
#

Attack=((OperatorAttack+WeaponAttack)×PercentageBonuses+FixedBonus+SpecialBonus)×AttributeBonus

with: AttributeBonus=1+0.005×MainAttribute+0.002×SecondaryAttribute

dry kindle
#

At least 4 yw

rapid heron
#

without exact number hard to tell how much DMG increase she actually get with the change in stats

dry kindle
#

Not really

fresh trench
#

this is so cursed

dry kindle
#

🗿

#

Not even max trust

fresh trench
frosty zinc
rapid heron
#

but what the final result is?

dry kindle
#

Just vibe a baseline 🔥

frosty zinc
#

swapped around pieces to the slab build, lost 13% crit but gained currently 500atk on my flourite as a stand in build.

rapid heron
frosty zinc
#

400 atk not 500, in the crit build shes at 3169/604 agi.

rapid heron
#

the issue is the higher the lvl the higher the main stats and the % different will change

#

i guess this will do for now

#

so the new ATK is 3569/3169

#

about 12.6% increase in total DMG

frosty zinc
#

3515, close enough. and i have maxed gear 😄 apart from will on the slab it does nothing

rapid heron
#

what the crit after max artifice?

#

on the MI security kit?

#

i mena on the kit itself

#

just 1

frosty zinc
#

flourite has lower operater atk and wedge only gives 132 main attri so we'll def be higher considering the BP wep is 156 agi. her crit currently is 56% crit in the crit build, not including the 5 stack bonus crit u get from mi set. \

#

so over 60 self buffed

#

itll be 47 in the slab build

rapid heron
frosty zinc
#

oh the kit its like 13.5 per kit

rapid heron
#

so 13.5 when max and 150% CRITDMG

dry kindle
#

bleh

rapid heron
#

that is average of 6.75% DMG increase without any crit DMG Buff

#

and it will be 13.5% increase if her CRITDMG 200%

frosty zinc
#

wishful thinking her sig wep does some weird crit damg buffing

dry kindle
#

why are mi pieces so cringe

rapid heron
#

so hard to tell what is best atm would you rather increase over all DMG but less crit during Ult or you rather having less DMG overall but more crit during Ult which increase DMG with crit

dry kindle
#

thanks devs

rapid heron
#

and total over 50% i would say go for crit

#

slab only for people chasing number for video and reset the run for crit. Where crit will be more reliable

frosty zinc
#

i think the 3rd talent on sig wep will set the tone. whatever flat buff it gives plus the perk

dry kindle
#

just go reverse calc the showcase

rapid heron
#

a lot of endgame build for Yvonne i see with 50% crit chance so you are 20% not crit during your Ult and i dont like that 20% chance XD

dry kindle
#

just be luckier always works

rapid heron
#

true

frosty zinc
#

food buff for extra crit always haha

rapid heron
#

cause we dont know what the sig weapon stack bonus give

dry kindle
#

calc better

#

🗣️

rapid heron
#

XD

#

bruh her video doesnt even show DMG number

dry kindle
#

we love slab being int will

#

fml

rapid heron
#

are we gonna use estimation with enemis HP bar %?

dry kindle
rapid heron
#

energy? huh

dry kindle
#

100 energy ult

cinder oxide
#

Good match is a scam my brothers

sturdy hill
#

is um twelve questions a copeable weapon option for endmin

cinder oxide
sturdy hill
civic wolf
#

how many spare stanza of memorio should i keep?

wispy shuttle
#

how many do you use? that many +1 if you really feel like keeping spare

#

but we dont have multi team content so might as well swap em around

civic wolf
#

i mean, how many active stanza of memorial users do we have rn

rapid heron
#

The effect doesn't stack

civic wolf
#

i meant how many users in seperate teams

rapid heron
#

So u never have more than one on a team anyway

#

2 at most

wispy shuttle
#

perlica, gilberta, off the top of my head

glass wind
#

Antal

wispy shuttle
#

gilberta can use too if not sig

civic wolf
#

oh i just realized

#

you need five copies of a weap to max it out?

glass wind
#

Xaihi

rapid heron
#

Why not just use detonation on antal?

civic wolf
#

one + five?

dawn shard
#

one + four

civic wolf
#

six?

#

oh

glass wind
#

Antal on Heat buff

wispy shuttle
#

yeah 6 total, just like chars

dawn shard
#

the weapon is already at p1 by default

civic wolf
#

oh

#

so even if i max out a stanza i'll have one leftover huh

#

might as well merge or nah?

wispy shuttle
civic wolf
wispy shuttle
#

yeah, the yellow bar on the indicator (star-like symbol) is the next level

glass wind
civic wolf
#

at max limit boost

cinder oxide
civic wolf
#

idk

#

oh yea

#

6/9

#

do you automatically get the etch bonuses when you limit boost

cinder oxide
#

There we go

wispy shuttle
#

Max HP +28%. When the wielder casts an ultimate, operators whose elements differ from the wielder gain ATK +22.4% for 20.00s. Effects of the same name cannot stack.
from the wiki at p9

cinder oxide
#

Then just stick a +3 essence

#

And that’s all stanza needs

civic wolf
#

should i keep a spare stanza then

cinder oxide
#

Ehhhh not really

wispy shuttle
#

why, again?

cinder oxide
#

The effect doesn’t stack with more than 2 stanzas on 1 team

#

You can just rotate the stanza between teams

wispy shuttle
#

more than 1*

civic wolf
#

just in case they finally pull up the 2 team endgame every open world use

wispy shuttle
#

you will still clear without stanza

cinder oxide
#

I keep all my excess 5* wp

#

Just in case

glass wind
#

Just take turns RossiCopium

civic wolf
#

but like, Detonation > Stanza right

wispy shuttle
#

do you not have two competent teams rn where one does not use stanza?

cinder oxide
wispy shuttle
cinder oxide
#

Det > Stanza only if you proc bursts mainly and only if its a same element team

wispy shuttle
#

stanza is for off-element team mates, detonation is for same-element team mates, since you gotta do the elemental burst

cinder oxide
#

You basically always want stanza as a gil sig alt or a Ard phys alt

#

Then theres other use cases

#

Like on Perly in cryo teams

#

Or on Antal for cryo if no det unit

glass wind
#

Antal is Electro and Heat buffer

cinder oxide
#

Oh whoops

#

Antal on heat teams

glass wind
#

Im thinking of Antal on Rossi team RossiCopium

cinder oxide
#

My brain is too focused on Cryo rn

glass wind
#

Thats Xaihi with Cryo and Nature Buff

civic wolf
#

does Lava team even use Det or Stanza

#

cuz Ardelia is sigged

cinder oxide
#

And Gil if no gil sig

civic wolf
#

ah. I see

#

Avywenna?

cinder oxide
wispy shuttle
#

you can check iana sheet in pins

#

it shows potential stanza users

cinder oxide
#

Stanza is in general the budget buffer

#

If its an off element caster

#

Stanza is usable

civic wolf
#

Perlica is the substitute for Gilberta if Gilberta needs to be in either Avy or Cryo right

#

wait no

#

still overlaps damn lmaooo

wispy shuttle
#

perlica can use mohaine if necessary

#

get some more electrification going

glass wind
#

OBJ Arts Identifier is made for Antal btw PerliFumo

civic wolf
#

whatever, fuck it, i'll just merge all the stanza for now

#

i'll cry about it later

wispy shuttle
#

but you have to ask yourself: do you think you will be incapable of clearing hypothetical future multi team content without a p1 stanza, and do you think you will not obtain another copy before then?

civic wolf
#

speaking of weapons

#

is Rapid Ascent bad

glass wind
#

idk but I bought it. PerliFumo

wispy shuttle
#

gonna need some context for that question

#

im sure itll cut a melon

glass wind
#

I cant tell if the 2 passives are seperated

civic wolf
#

the 6* weekly wep rotation

#

been hopiuming someone was able to cast foresight on that rotation ngl

wispy shuttle
glass wind
#

These are clearly two passives right?

#

The Main Attribute L stats is kinda nice tho

cinder oxide
cinder oxide
#

Long ans it gets better at p5 but atp

glass wind
#

idk how to test it tho

cinder oxide
#

Just use p5 glorious

glass wind
cinder oxide
#

@glass wind The issue is that Ascent stacks are absolute dogwater

glass wind
#

I havent touch the weapon stuff that much yet.

#

The what? PerliDerp

#

oh yeah. The passive says Skills and Ult so Physical reactions dont count PerliDerp

wispy shuttle
# cinder oxide Just use p5 glorious

you could but that also requires investing protocol pass resources that might be useful elsewhere. meanwhile your rascent might be gathering dust. its worth considering imo

#

not that i have rascent, so that limits my options from the get go

cinder oxide
#

1 protopass gives 4 pots worth every patch

glass wind
#

I didnt realize you can get 2 if u unlock both passes

wispy shuttle
#

with that you hope you can outpace the introduction of worthwhile protopass weapons. so far that seems a valid assumption ig

warped sorrel
#

rossi kit out?

cinder oxide
#

Then youll nvr lose access

wispy shuttle
#

yes, i just mean to say that there could exist a future where you are starved for the potential boxes

#

but thats hypotheticals

honest hill
glass wind
#

I didnt know we have this

#

is this a weekly one? Its a support weapon

#

bruh its on Amber's banner

terse raptor
azure jay
#

Guys

#

So

warped sorrel
azure jay
#

Exusiai cant be in endfield?

glass wind
#

Lifeng's

#

Anyone own it?

summer flicker
#

tt max gear PerliFumo

potent hornet
#

i'm not too far behind, just need to finish off the str

cinder oxide
#

Valiant does the job just fine

#

And the offrate 6* are generally bad (except JET of course)

glass wind
cinder oxide
raven vapor
cinder oxide
#

Nvr mind goated offrates

glass wind
#

oh I posted this because of the Sword

cinder oxide
#

Waste of arsenals

#

But goated offrates

glass wind
#

They put the sword on that banner and Ember's instead of a Sword Banner like Pog's

outer ermine
#

PerliStareYou @edgy crater

glass wind
#

Wonder if it goes on Weekly

cinder oxide
peak void
#

i understood 15 👍

outer ermine
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all u need to know is lrtt is abt to break 14

cinder oxide
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14s??

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Zamnnnnn

edgy crater
wispy shuttle
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break 14 at doing what?

edgy crater
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spanking fatso from loading

wispy shuttle
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ah

cinder oxide
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From loading is crazy work

wispy shuttle
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the real metric if you ask me. from hp bar you can go get coffee for 5 minutes first

outer ermine
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waiting for em, if we reached same conclusion then xaihi

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actual carry

smoky quarry
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there are more good 6 stars than there's bad 6 stars

cinder oxide
smoky quarry
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"all 5 star characters are bad" type of shit

digital ruin
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Which is more worth, xaihi m3 bs or yvonne m3 basic?

cinder oxide
digital ruin
cinder oxide
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In fact no point unless future content demands it

smoky quarry
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What's the "Ambulance Team Core" for endfield? Sounds funny asf

edgy crater
normal tangle
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what damage is tt ult counted as

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is that ult damage or still technically bs

wispy shuttle
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the splash is ult

summer flicker
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tornado is skill dmg

wispy shuttle
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the battle skill effects are battle skill damage

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check the tooltips

river scroll
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as mentioned before, it's not about giving tangtang crit in general, but more of she does so many hit counts that the base 5% + gear 5% + full 5 stack 5% = 15% crit rate is just about or very tiny short enough to get the +25% ATK stacks up when controlling her

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what you guys think?

cinder oxide
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Bait used to be believable RossiCopium