theorycrafting

[peak void]

endmin essence is done

now idk what to do

[terse valley]

??

do you play last rite or yvonne

[peak void]

i mean i wanna play them

[terse valley]

???

[peak void]

whats so perplexing

they are playable characters that i want to play, who happen to have different teams 🤷

[terse valley]

yknow what just complete your physical team first idk

[honest hill]

@edgy crater

[edgy crater]

whot?

[honest hill]

did u see

my lr tt clear

[outer ermine]

whel

show

[honest hill]

k wait

[edgy crater]

no

tang2 doko

btw, hifu, remember on what u said bout yinglung ulti set?

[outer ermine]

no

[edgy crater]

bruh

anyway, from testing, its better than surge tide (?)

[honest hill]

@outer ermine @edgy crater

btw

[edgy crater]

w8

why ur lr cs so low

420k

fresh gear?

[outer ermine]

how much do u hit on ult 3rdhit

[honest hill]

P0P0

also tt not fully essence

6 4 2

[outer ermine]

my brain stopped working for a bit after the bluedodge

[edgy crater]

fresh surge tide set + frontier chest
cs 433k ulti 215k 215k 431k

fresh red yinglung ulti set + redeemer glove
cs 428k ulti 225k 225k 450k

[honest hill]

is it actually better

or are u coping

[edgy crater]

im questioning myself

[honest hill]

do they both have same lv of investment

or is this just

[outer ermine]

oh dam that clears

[edgy crater]

fresh gear bruh

[honest hill]

oh

[outer ermine]

[honest hill]

ye I cleared

[outer ermine]

was frontier always the chest for that

i forgor what normal lr looks like

[edgy crater]

froniter chest ulti

she has 3 chest optional lol

[honest hill]

what's the diff in stats then

[edgy crater]

or is it4

[edgy crater]

lazy to see it

[honest hill]

wow

u suck

[edgy crater]

[honest hill]

go chek

[edgy crater]

already artificing those new gear lmao

[outer ermine]

be the sacrifice

[honest hill]

smh

[outer ermine]

i can prob plug it in but im lazy too

lr mains

[sterile patrol]

New lr gear?

[outer ermine]

red kit ying lr

w redeem gloves

[sterile patrol]

I don’t know stats off top of my head how is it winning in ult dmg?

I’ll go check it out on pc soon

[drifting quest]

Its uh

One of those giga rot dependent giga team dependent things

Last I saw

[edgy crater]

50+% ulti damage/kit lol

[drifting quest]

Same as every LR consideration

[sterile patrol]

Oh lmao

[outer ermine]

giga staccing

[sterile patrol]

Endfield gear moment

[edgy crater]

redeemer glove hard carry str stat lol

[honest hill]

so -30str + 2will holy ult dmg bonus

[edgy crater]

yeah, max like 130% ulti bonus

basically ungabunga yes number behavior

[honest hill]

so is it better or worse

[edgy crater]

no idea

but from testing, yinglung ulti kit win

[outer ermine]

remind me later ig imma grind first

[edgy crater]

[sterile patrol]

Can try calc it in my free time later

Interesting

[outer ermine]

now we have gigastaccing on combo and ult

[edgy crater]

dats with ur yinglung cs knives?

[outer ermine]

yeah, im still missing third stats

[edgy crater]

4% different lol

stat stacking lmao

[honest hill]

no food buff

[edgy crater]

*fatso activated guts

[honest hill]

yeah lol

still crazy

no food buff

[sterile patrol]

insane

[honest hill]

had to use food buff to get that close before

w jakubs

w a 6 4 2 tt

[oak vigil]

You used Perica before switching her to Tangtang, right?

[honest hill]

now is 6 6 3

[honest hill]

ye

[edgy crater]

yinglung ulti kit also looks nice on stat stick

[honest hill]

now is ur turn

[outer ermine]

ight w lr start

on pc now i can frameperfect cast fianlly

[sterile patrol]

youre... gonna combo ult me?

[edgy crater]

damn blackout dead again

[outer ermine]

i gonna time it ngl which is faster

[honest hill]

u have more hp than Rhodagn

it gonna be hard

look at this whale

[outer ermine]

lewd

[oak vigil]

Either a compliment, either calling someone a fat lard mound with Endfield terms

[honest hill]

lemme try

hifumi rot

[teal pawn]

ok i know ive been slacking but i didn't expect them to change this much

[sterile patrol]

ye a shit ton of stuff moved around with new gear for phys

[lyric latch]

Rossi not even here and physical already changed

[edgy crater]

endmin beacon for funny crush number

[drifting quest]

yinglung consideration for chen too

[edgy crater]

yinglung n glorius memory place 2nd in terms of damage?

[honest hill]

rossi will have her own team

[outer ermine]

omg i gotta rollback drivers wtf the stutters

[honest hill]

what u on

[drifting quest]

yinglung + p5 glorious is a ways ahead in damage

its just got its own section at the top of the page

[edgy crater]

its only beaten by p5 rascent isnt

[drifting quest]

it can beat p5 rascent too

[edgy crater]

[honest hill]

it's 1% diff

not even

1%

[edgy crater]

still an upgrade

[honest hill]

ofc it is

whel

[outer ermine]

595

[honest hill]

hm

[edgy crater]

595 in what?

[outer ermine]

just go back to 591ig

[edgy crater]

oh driver version

i thought dat shit already fixed lol

[outer ermine]

game actually told me b4 launching but i skipped that shit

[teal pawn]

oh I can actually BP for something now?

[drifting quest]

rossi's bp weapon is definitely the best we have seen in a while

[honest hill]

@outer ermine @edgy crater I did it

[sterile patrol]

even with the crit?

[honest hill]

my lr cs did 484k

[sterile patrol]

most universal one so far ig

[chilly bolt]

you can even get better result with stanza on arde

[drifting quest]

i loathe the fact a crit weapon is the first one to be 'good'

[edgy crater]

bruh my net dead again, cant even load ur vide lol

[honest hill]

I tried stanza on arde is worse

[chilly bolt]

They add a sneaky +atk in 3rd line so it evens out

[sterile patrol]

yea ig

[honest hill]

lv 1 corro + stanza don't beat it I think

it was way worse

[chilly bolt]

Then why i have better result

Hmm

[honest hill]

show me

ig I could retry

use arde ult after xaihi and tt

[drifting quest]

torch was similar but they just made memory more generic

[edgy crater]

torch?

oh umbral torch?

[honest hill]

bruh

tf is wrong w the servers

i swear past few days

they're dying

okay imma try

[chilly bolt]

ardelia sig

[honest hill]

see this is how much I got w stanza p4

[chilly bolt]

stanza

[edgy crater]

why ur stanza still p4

[honest hill]

see stanza is worse

[chilly bolt]

oh shit why

wtf

[honest hill]

forgot to buy

the early ones

[chilly bolt]

i swear i got better with stanza yesterday

[honest hill]

yeah it's way worse

just tried again

[chilly bolt]

my tt is shit does that matter?

[honest hill]

no

look at my vid

it kills

but u see the hp diff

nowhere close

oh tbf I have her p1

I lose out on 8% susc

[chilly bolt]

i have that too

[honest hill]

maybe I should consume it then

lemme rerty

ye I gotta consume

one sev

[ocean turret]

i just bought rapid ascent on shop

so expensive

I hope its worth it. I already lvl 80 the other weapons of chen

[honest hill]

@chilly bolt I nearly done but is worse

[lime nacelle]

But what is it for?

CHEN?!

[honest hill]

P5 BP wep

get that

[lime nacelle]

I just use Chen's signature for her. Since it's... for her.

[ocean turret]

does P0 rapid ascent better than P5 sundering?

[chilly bolt]

stanza 1st starry 2nd

[honest hill]

no

[honest hill]

no

[chilly bolt]

same shit lol

[honest hill]

just P5 the BP wep

[chilly bolt]

but my stanza is only p2

[honest hill]

nah for me is a big diff

[chilly bolt]

and im sure it gets better with a stronger tt

[honest hill]

idk why

[chilly bolt]

starry is better for you?

[honest hill]

ye

[outer ermine]

ill try later

[dusk isle]

whats the rot i have p0 ardel sig vs p5 stanza

[honest hill]

try now

[dusk isle]

i wanna test it as well

[honest hill]

P5 stanza u use after her corro

mb

u don't have

[outer ermine]

ard and tt cs together to minimize slow time, and even more by hiding it on xai ult

aint my rotation if theres slowtime

[honest hill]

smh

ur a whale

shut up

[dusk isle]

just 4x into ult

right

[outer ermine]

gotta play better smh

[edgy crater]

hifu, ur rot will stuttering my laptop lol

[honest hill]

since u have P0 ardel w stanza don't consume corro just ult after landing the combo skill

[outer ermine]

its only like 6 inputs in one second

[chilly bolt]

lr+xaihi precast>lr bs> 2 cryo> xaihi ult>tt ult>arde ult> dive attack> press all combos>lr ult

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

i cant even do dash cancel while recording

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

anyway, need more catalyst wtf

[chilly bolt]

i dont even have money to use all the catalysts

[edgy crater]

my current yinglung ulti kit almost beat my max artif surge tide + frontier chest lol

[outer ermine]

i love how im moving fast enuf b4 tt combo comes back up

[chilly bolt]

tide set fell off

[outer ermine]

~~always has~`

[edgy crater]

yinglung cs set supremacy too lol

[outer ermine]

ight hopefully no more stutrers

[edgy crater]

hope i can still get 1m lr 3rd slash with yinglung ulti variant

[outer ermine]

true, cs and ult for both whel and f2p

[honest hill]

@chilly bolt im optimising rot they're close

I nearly killed

[edgy crater]

currently my lr 3rd slash only do 590k with jacub

still need at least 70k to get 1m crit

[honest hill]

fk I keep jumping

l1 + x

x jump

[outer ermine]

smooth af

[honest hill]

yeah

[dusk isle]

this is ardel sig and stanza killed

[chilly bolt]

so yeah stanza

[honest hill]

idk for me at least ardel sig killed

stanza didn't

[chilly bolt]

how big is your tt

[proud berry]

Has anyone thought to put Tang on a Laevatain team?

[edgy crater]

[dusk isle]

[proud berry]

Hear me out

[dusk isle]

p0 sig 663 essence, dont ask about the gear, i got baited

[honest hill]

it's close for me

[chilly bolt]

wdym that gear is also bis

[dusk isle]

isnt it too much bs dmg

[chilly bolt]

yes and what's wrong with that

[honest hill]

i think ur supposed to use slab at p1+

?

[dusk isle]

idk ive heard bone glove with slab flex outdamages it

[honest hill]

Ithrene is ur ardel p1?

[chilly bolt]

that's for either main dps tt or onfielding

[dusk isle]

yap

[proud berry]

Tang2 battle skill applies art susceptible when she has 2 stacks of her whirlpool. Plus she can trigger her own Cs with her own battle Skill right?

[honest hill]

w stanza consume corro then ult

[dusk isle]

thats what ive been doing

[honest hill]

then before lr fs u xai + tt ult like normal

ye idk for me it's worse

but I have P1 sig

P4 stanza

[chilly bolt]

oh ye the problem with the rot is you dont use tt bs

[honest hill]

wym

[chilly bolt]

oh you start with tt bs

shit i totally forgot that

[honest hill]

wtf

I hate jumping

when tryna do cs

fff

[chilly bolt]

i just have lr doing 2 bs

[cold bane]

so i have P1 Tangtang now, what to master after her BS?

combo? ult? basic?

[chilly bolt]

you can stop now, but if you want to M3, do her ult yes

[dusk isle]

for both thest i did fs -> tang cs + bs

[chilly bolt]

if you do tt bs after tt cs you cant get 3 sprouts

you save 1 whirlpool before ult

diving the ult gives +1 sprouts

[dusk isle]

lemme try

[honest hill]

ye idk about stanza

didn't kill for me

bruh

the game cancelled my lr cs

[lucid flower]

the character on the banner rn whats her role? and how long is her banner still on?

[chilly bolt]

nvm im dump you need to save 2 combo for 3 sprouts

[honest hill]

somehow I got closer whilst messing up the rot

ts makes no sense

[dusk isle]

lr crit bug

[honest hill]

ye

bruh

my cs

keeps getting cancelled

....

close

[lime nacelle]

Artifice Xaihi's secondary stats and you'll clear.

[honest hill]

I'm testing stanza

on ardel

I can kill w her sig

[frank shard]

is there any leav gear changes with 1.1

and do dupes change anything about it

[honest hill]

okay the boss ded

[outer ermine]

wtf i cant insta jumpswap on pc

have to swap and jump

[honest hill]

@dusk isle @chilly bolt stanza

[drifting quest]

new uge body piece

[frank shard]

alr

[honest hill]

487K

[drifting quest]

isnt huge increase over tide if you artificed tide already

[honest hill]

P1 Sig - 484k
P4 Stanza - 487k
@dusk isle @chilly bolt

but idk how much it affects tt

[chilly bolt]

[honest hill]

there's like 50 million numbers

[honest hill]

got 89 catalysts left

saving for 1.2 or I might just max arti tt

[icy remnant]

I hope more content comes out soon so we know what the actual late game looks like

Contingency contracts

[outer ermine]

lol w trim rules

should be 1.5s faster if i crit on cs

[edgy crater]

loading time or 1st to aggro?

[honest hill]

ur time supposed to be 11s

[outer ermine]

loading

[honest hill]

w ur whale acc

smh

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

i have 0 w hp rule

[honest hill]

I heard u did kill

[outer ermine]

gotta nerf myself and do trim instead

[honest hill]

insta

but I need to see

show me

[edgy crater]

1st aggro basically 5s yvonne

just pre xaihi ulti n yvonne ulti

u dont even pew2 with yvonne ulti

[honest hill]

i wanna see clip

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1yJwszYE9W

this shit was hard on phone

cuz the buttons would go down since theres no enemy

had to buffer everything b4 it went down

[honest hill]

what in the

[edgy crater]

[honest hill]

so

rhod can't aggro if u freeze him w tt ult

and then u have a million timestops

[outer ermine]

FUCK I my recoridng buff ee wasnt on

ye just ult b4 u do dmg

whats best rhod time on trim rules axtually

[honest hill]

w yvonne is like <5s

[outer ermine]

thats hp, trim is on enter

[honest hill]

idk

[outer ermine]

gib me ur luck so i can check after i get my run smh

[honest hill]

why u want my luck

[outer ermine]

for critfishing

[honest hill]

is it bc

I am LR Main

[fresh trench]

sweet liberty 900 int

[honest hill]

smh

good luck Hifumi

[outer ermine]

i keep killing on cutscnee

[honest hill]

btw

I'll be a mobile gamer for one day

tomorrow

[outer ermine]

ur gonna be hella fast if u tryhard

[honest hill]

nah imma just do dailies

my one problem is the spam refresh for j*bs

[outer ermine]

20.866

im so slow wtf

[smoky quarry]

Chat, is this generous?

[kindred sorrel]

40k t-creds

[kindred sorrel]

if you refresh, dont see anything, then backout, then go back in, it does a free refresh for you, and also resets your refresh

meaning you can get 2 refreshes in ~3 seconds compared to 1 every 5

[smoky quarry]

2.1 pull

[quaint matrix]

we got an event?

[wispy shuttle]

the server will rate limit you if you keep doing that, i tried

[cinder oxide]

It'll likely be higher on the last day is my guess

Or best case incremental daily

But wouldn't hold me breath

[kindred sorrel]

only if youre unlucky and dont hit a max wuling delivery quickly

[smoky quarry]

If you see no deliveries, it's best to log out and check later

I just try to catch the moment where a lot of people go online

Like past-work in europe

[kindred sorrel]

i get all of mine done pretty quickly every morning

[quaint matrix]

i'm thinking,should i finish my endmin wpn essence or just sit on my stockpiles and wait for something

[wispy shuttle]

it was a skill issue all along

[kindred sorrel]

frfr

[drifting quest]

new mini event like the photo one

started the usual pull income drama

[drifting perch]

Btw I like thing about the update 1.1 version is still 24 gb for mobile

Just like 1.0 version

My storage barely handle Endfield

[quaint matrix]

pull income is ass indeed. i remember how we discussed here pulls in 1.1 and though that 80+ is gonna be good but we got how much? like 60

[smoky quarry]

Don't downplay it, it is an issue

[drifting quest]

what

dont drama bait lmao

[echo cove]

1.1 isn't even fully out yet tho?

[drifting quest]

i made 0 comment

[cinder oxide]

Yo need to check with the labbers

Does Link affect TT ult like Chen ult or like Laev ult

[echo cove]

i mean if u r counting the whole thing, don't we need to wait til 1.2 release to see how many pull we gettin in 1.1?

[drifting perch]

1.2 version might be full version of wuling map

[smoky quarry]

Referring to issue as drama is a derogoratory comment that belittles problem

[wispy shuttle]

thx i just realized why my iphone couldnt backup anymore, bc endfield was inflating the size

[smoky quarry]

People always use word "drama" when they want to downplay the importance

[drifting quest]

you cannot be serious

lmao

[drifting perch]

Try redownload

When I update the storage up to 35gb

[echo cove]

that's just a u thing

[wispy shuttle]

no like, i removed endfield from the backup

[drifting quest]

^

[drifting perch]

But when redownload it is 24 gb

[drifting quest]

dont try make drama here

its beneath you

[echo cove]

drama just means things blown out of proportion in this case

[drifting perch]

64gb is surviving endfield or gacha game

[drifting quest]

link does correctly interact with tangtang ult

doesnt whiff on cast

last i saw

i keep putting off testing it

[outer ermine]

holy i think i got it

carpal tunnel is about to haunt my fingers

[cinder oxide]

I just tested it. It sure does work!

[next helm]

Drama about pull econ

Not drama about content amount

[wispy shuttle]

why not both

[outer ermine]

[drifting quest]

its my bad for mentioning the word at all i guess

[outer ermine]

that makes me wanna grind sub 20 but good enuf

[honest hill]

do better whale

[pliant kestrel]

Only 1.19 why not 1.2

poor effort try again

[outer ermine]

u missing a 1 before the 9 lilbro

[cinder oxide]

Did a test of link buff on TT ult. It buffs every single aspect correctly.
321 vs 412 for the ult field ticks. 5624 vs 7307 for the wave. 1189 vs 1674 for wp ticks.

[outer ermine]

oh wait theres an 18

w no tt ult

-3s ig

[fresh trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1462828664650469427/1484208818576556143/230mp4.mp4?ex=69bd64ad&is=69bc132d&hm=dd94aa882fa3d6086b2124fd702f7faaabeae64c39b9d5996bde48fdc1882a08&

2:30 minutes now!

[honest hill]

isn't tt mdps best team gilb xai perli?

[cinder oxide]

Im testing how link affects her ult

[honest hill]

oh

so it buffs the whole ult

not just initial hit

[cinder oxide]

Yep its like chen ult

Not like Laev ult

Which makes sense as laev ult is normals

[drifting quest]

oh right

did you test t2 as well

[wispy shuttle]

more importantly it buffed the battle skill like effects triggered by the ult

[honest hill]

yeah

[cinder oxide]

And link only boosts bs and ult

[drifting quest]

last i saw it buffed talent 2 too but the videos i was sent were

not the best to verify with

[cinder oxide]

Also link boosts the ult whirlpools as if its a bs

[fresh trench]

@bronze plume

[drifting quest]

as in post plunge

the spouts* are buffed as well

[cinder oxide]

Cos the initial ult parts had abt a 1.3 mult vs the bs part having a 1.4 mult

[drifting quest]

x1.3

[bronze plume]

golf clap

[cinder oxide]

Not the spouts were 1.4

[drifting quest]

oh

wait

1.2 and 1.3 you mean

thats my bad

[cinder oxide]

It seems to follow bs ult

[drifting quest]

1.2 ult 1.3 spout

[cinder oxide]

Yes

It appears as 1.3 and 1.4 mult cos of ake talent

But if I were to calc it back

It follows the 1.2 for ult & 1.3 for bs

[fresh trench]

this look concerning...

[cinder oxide]

Time to swap back to xira comps

Split it off from a battery line

[wispy shuttle]

i just make a bit of both

but you def want to play catch up on the xira ones

[cinder oxide]

I still have 17k xira comps so I gotta get my copium comps up first

[fresh trench]

b r u h

[cinder oxide]

Just make 'K' comps it's that easy

[wispy shuttle]

more like 26L amirite

[rapid heron]

couldnt test this myself before

DMG from status like physical status or art reaction... get effected by link ?

if those status caused by BS or Ultimate

[rare zodiac]

No?

Endmin crush doesn’t get buff so other should not

[fresh trench]

I FEEL LIKE I DEVOLVE INTO MONKI GETTING BACK TO MAKE THIS WTH

[chilly bolt]

No reaction dmg is not from the skill

[wispy shuttle]

dw, you already were monki considering you arrived in this state

[cinder oxide]

It only buffs the initial dmg mult in Endmin case right?

[chilly bolt]

Like you have the dmg from the skill

And then the dmg of crush

[cinder oxide]

Yeah that makes sense

No wonder we link boost Lifeng ult and Chen ult instead

[wispy shuttle]

lifeng ult also has a special extra effect if affected by link, so that one goes even harder

[chilly bolt]

Ngl looking at glorious now it makes me wanna build chen

But im pogless

[wispy shuttle]

whel more

[chilly bolt]

Idk if it's a good idea to play phys without him

[wispy shuttle]

i dont have him either but im keeping my char selector for when i need it

[honest hill]

u can play the lifeng copege team

[gritty briar]

what did you selector?

[chilly bolt]

What you think i selected

[honest hill]

lifeng

[gritty briar]

ardelia

[honest hill]

ember

ardelia

[chilly bolt]

a ducking lr pot

[honest hill]

so it's ur own fault

[chilly bolt]

Ikr

[honest hill]

what is she now

[chilly bolt]

p2

[honest hill]

bruh

u did for the stat increase

not even P3

[chilly bolt]

One step closer to p3 i take that

[fossil pendant]

it's peak

[chilly bolt]

It is

[molten star]

Whats the maximum agility p0 tang tang with fully artificed getting?

[drifting quest]

depends on what gear you run

[molten star]

Bonekrusha

[drifting quest]

that does not narrow it down

[molten star]

Bonekrusha mask t2 x2
Bonekrusha armour T2
Security gloves

[quartz horizon]

brokee set up

[drifting quest]

assuming you mean heavy armour t2

its what like 675

[cinder oxide]

Btw if yall think about it

Glorious memory proves that Rossi main dps should be loaded on ult

[tight haven]

they did say that most of her damage would be on ult

[molten star]

Damn tang² can breach 6k attack even with a proper set. Kinda pog

[next helm]

I like the sword

but for overworld content ult set seems bad

[cinder oxide]

Just have her wear ult gain gear

And pair with Gil of course

[summer flicker]

im at like 7k attack kekw with p4 tt (slab)

could be 7.4k with all artificed

[cinder oxide]

Lynx?

[summer flicker]

ye

[cinder oxide]

Ok

[next helm]

wait does that even work

[next helm]

isn't her ult mega signletarget

[cinder oxide]

I mean the last hit looks like an AOE from the vid

Or the small ones might be blockable by other enemies

[lyric latch]

Well they did say Rossi was mostly single target. But Gilb can help with that.

[tough nest]

this is also used for p1 tang?

[drifting quest]

p1 doesnt need uge

assuming you utilise p1 properly

unless its that like one uge lr rot

then it needs some at p1 too

[tough nest]

true, i'm using her with LR

might be better for comfort

[drifting quest]

depends if its the fast rot or the normal one

uge req differs

[outer ermine]

man ive got 3 diff dmgs on my cs

880080
716344
616056
no crit on any

880k might be a 616k bonus crit

and around 1m for base and bonus prob

where tf is 716k coming from

[hidden notch]

for a sub dps tangtang, is the yinglung or bonekrusha chest piece generally accepted as bis? seeing conflicting opinions everywhere. probably only gonna artifice one of em for now

[pure spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541760801968128/1483440123449446440/mifumifu.gif

Mi fu when

[cinder oxide]

Depends on what scenario it is. Speed run 1 cycle? BC chest. Normal boss clear? YL chest. Overworld? YL chest. Mdps TT? BC chest.

[hidden notch]

what's mdps tt?

[drifting quest]

main dps

aka not yvonne nor last rite teams

[chilly bolt]

Just do bone+mi hands if you're not using her as main dps

[short belfry]

i tried my nearly fully built yvonne in lv 90 rhodagn boss and she did like 420k + when rhodagn was staggered in 2nd phase. and i dont have tangtang. is that yvonne dmg good or nah?

[hidden notch]

mi hands isn't mlm?

[chilly bolt]

What's mlm

[hidden notch]

oh nvm got it

[molten star]

Yinglung increases combo skill dmg right? Shouldn't the set that increases bs skill dmg be better

[drifting quest]

YL is an off piece

[cinder oxide]

The set isn’t the issue. It’s an off piece

[drifting quest]

they're all 3p bonekrusha

[cinder oxide]

The main set bonus is still crusha

The only difference is that YL chest matches TT attributes while having ult gain

Which is desirable over more cryo imo

[drifting quest]

its mandatory in some rots

simple as

[cinder oxide]

Yep

Honestly the main reason we don’t just perma use it over BC chest

Is that the glove choice is far more complicated without BC

The optimal glove for dmg is MI Security Glove with battle skill%

But if we run that

We will need BC chest for sure

To meet the set bonus

[drifting quest]

BK gloves is fine

[cinder oxide]

Also the kit piece

[drifting quest]

since there's stuff like slab

[cinder oxide]

Is another thing

Yeah slab

[drifting quest]

aforementioned yinglung

etc

[cinder oxide]

Mhm

Yinglung only works if your other pieces all are BC

Which is just not optimal for dps

Due to MI glove and lynx slab

But goddamn that ult gain is too good to pass up

[molten star]

Tt lets lr do her combo faster right? So shouldn't it better than the ardelia variant since lr lost dmg in ardelia variant gets replaced by TT's personal dps

[cinder oxide]

TT is really efficient cryo inflictions

So yeah

[molten star]

Tt really doing some good offield dmg

[cinder oxide]

That’s true but in a LR team

It’s ok for her to lose some dmg to make LR do more

Better to use her to benefit LR b4 focusing on her dmg

[molten star]

Wonder since they don't have a test server, they would release a unit with bonkers numbers and couldn't nerf it

[molten star]

my combo skill does like 100k less with tt instead of ardelia

[cinder oxide]

Your TT using sig or no?

[molten star]

Yeah

[cinder oxide]

Skill 3 have all nodes?

[molten star]

But tt let's lr do combo more. So it's kinda cancels out?

[molten star]

Yes . I think it's more so that My ardelia is p1

[cinder oxide]

Are you applying the susceptibility properly?

You need 2 pools to trigger the max amount of 10%

[molten star]

Yes. Since there's no xiranite extra dmg% and 10 less susc and the buff ardelia's p1 gives

[cinder oxide]

Honestly a LR team should be Ard Xaihi TT and LR

What else are you running

[molten star]

Lt tt perlica xaihi

[molten star]

This was too sp heavy so I benched it

[cinder oxide]

How much sp are you using on Ard

[molten star]

100?

[cinder oxide]

That shouldn’t be a big issue for the rotation but ok

Are u pre using Xaihi bs?

And lr bs?

[molten star]

Does this replace one of lr skill with ardelia

[molten star]

Nah

[cinder oxide]

U should

Just add the buff to yourself b4 starting

[molten star]

But you can't do it in endgame tho

[cinder oxide]

Umbral is not endgame

[molten star]

I mean umbral

[cinder oxide]

Hmm not sure about Umbral rotations so can’t comment there

[hidden notch]

might just do full krusha ngl

[icy remnant]

I don’t think pre using LR and Xaihi skills will be doable in actual end game modes

[outer ermine]

depends on boss mechanics

either 3 stack, or that one rock mf w multiple hitboxes so u could insta 4 stacks anyway

we'll see w mino and birb

[chilly bolt]

Gil ult expired before lr 3rd ult strike

[daring dove]

I'm rich don't talk to me anymore guys since I'm officially a billionaire, you'll need to talk to my security instead.

[smoky quarry]

[outer ermine]

finally lol my rot seems to be faster

i wanna beat that 18s by 2s but hm

.366 to 16

[halcyon zenith]

does laev team have any important mastery breakpoints or big masteries to aim for?
also for a 2nd team does phys team fare better or p2 last rite team? (got gil, can get tangtang, could get at least 1 sig)

[daring dove]

Now to just use my oil barron money to rip you off as well in Wulling.

[outer ermine]

my bamboo

[hidden notch]

yolo full crusha (masteries wip)

optimal rots are beyond me

[tough nest]

what are you actually getting for not using pulsar over this? just more ult gain?

[drifting quest]

ult gain + more arts intensity

[tough nest]

it gives more?

[drifting quest]

or well, less than 4p AI, more than other 3p AI

[tough nest]

ah, makes sense

[drifting quest]

3p pulser doesnt run uge

which is the reasoning

[tough nest]

i'm running this because at least when maxxed, with gilb ult, she can do some damage with her ult too

[drifting quest]

pulser is more personal damage

AI gloves would be more AI

[glass birch]

Cant you just run Chest + 2 Pulser kits and the new Hot works gloves for pure AI over running Pulser gloves?

[daring dove]

No fair not allowed to have more ATK than me without slab.

[drifting quest]

yes

[reef plinth]

if I have P3 Tang should I just run her as a main dps or still far better as a sub?

[honest hill]

use what u like

[reef plinth]

fair enough, she's much more fluid compared to Yvonne

[honest hill]

Yvonne is mid

gameplay wise

[torn pilot]

am i doing my rotation optimally on yvonne? timing everything always feels pretty tight

[honest hill]

u should test against Rhodagn

good dmg

[outer ermine]

yesyeysyes

holy fuck 5%

[torn pilot]

how come?

[outer ermine]

hes a punching bag

[torn pilot]

oh yeah true

[honest hill]

punching bag material

as long as u don't mess

up

when he tries to 2nd phase

[torn pilot]

wdym?

idk how to stop him from going second phase 😭

[outer ermine]

ahh so close

[honest hill]

just do ur rotation

[honest hill]

stop doing this whel stuff

[outer ermine]

i beat him by .9s

lol

[honest hill]

[outer ermine]

16.9 if i have full artif to kill on cs

[honest hill]

what is that reaction

sus

[honest hill]

honestly for LR the set hnaf is using might actually be better

lmao

[outer ermine]

which one

[ripe adder]

3p yinglung?

[honest hill]

ying

[edgy crater]

oi

why u said its from me

i got dat info from hifu lol

my shit only test dat info

[honest hill]

well

idk

[outer ermine]

eiditng is harder than both runs

[smoky quarry]

What's the chance devs are gonna release 3 units that go into the same team back-to-back again?

[drifting quest]

unlikely, thankfully

not impossible, but unlikely

would have to be liz and the male sankta

1.2

and both support phys fire hyrbid

[smoky quarry]

lavatein needs good sub-dps with heat application options and xaihi-like support, she is getting tired from wheelchairing the rest of the team

[drifting quest]

there's a world where mifu is fire support for rossi i guess, actually

[bold rose]

which one is better for yvonne

[smoky quarry]

Lycia will probably be striker/vanguard that goes well into lava team, or heat in general

[bold rose]

we thought Rossi was supposed to be that role at the start
the Akekuri replacer

[drifting quest]

Batk damage is better, but cr is fine if you feel you need the crit

[bold rose]

Mifu is likely dual ele support
like a 6* Antal

[smoky quarry]

With pull economy like that I'll be waifu pulling, sorry tc'rafters

[drifting quest]

if its vibes alone i would have called her the main dps of a premium electric team

[smoky quarry]

She is frontliner, but isn't flashy enough to be first on the stage imo

[bold rose]

they're saving that role for fangyi I reckon

[smoky quarry]

Her design conceptually reminds me amber

god forbid if she's defender lol

[drifting quest]

potentially but it was vibes alone

fangyi lacks the vibes

[smoky quarry]

idk, her ult literally will make her naked. Definitely meant to be onfielded

I like how this statement is half joke and probably half true

[bold rose]

RANT:
why is it so hard to farm this goddamn piece I've been camping the Hub Alluvium for like a week now

(I engrave Main/Agi/Str + Detonate since I'm farming for Xaihi Detonation Unit as well but somehow got that b4 this)

[smoky quarry]

Didn't you received valley engraving kit?

[bold rose]

used that shit for Yvonne because she's the only one needing fracture

[smoky quarry]

I'm suprised they didn't added it into paid bp

seems fitting

Lowkey find it funny that battlepass that costs 10$ is full of trash items, while free and freemium tier have pulls and oroberyl

[bold rose]

the arsenal ticket is what matters

[dawn shard]

paid bp also has more oigeometry than the freemium

[tight haven]

the bp does still feel like a joke to buy

[smoky quarry]

I buy bp cause of weapons, tokens and t-creds

oh, and you can get 1(!) pull from containers

[drifting quest]

maybe im the odd one out

[smoky quarry]

from like 20 large crates on the post 60 lvl

[drifting quest]

endfield bp feels way better than prior gacha

excluding limbus company

that bp is broken as fuck

[proud vector]

The BP weapons got gud

[lyric latch]

yeah. nothing compares to Limbus pass

[smoky quarry]

Isn't limbus literally one of the most f2p friendly gachas?

I've seen people glaze it a lot

[proud vector]

Also the free tier is great

[drifting quest]

yeah

[proud vector]

Ok the gatcha in limbus sucks ass. Like 200 for pity and all that

The dispenser though?

Godlike for f2p, almost completely eliminates fomo (excluding the Arknights limited egos, of which admittedly some are really good)

[drifting quest]

spending in limbus company is purely to support the company and backpulling like 'cosmetic' things

[smoky quarry]

That's not even one m3 mastery, right?

[drifting quest]

no

[smoky quarry]

[drifting quest]

50 is literally just m3

m1 + m2 is another 40 more or so

[tight haven]

its just fine to me but i am used to bps giving you a very generous amount of pulls

[warped sorrel]

are they bankrupting?

[tight haven]

no

[drifting quest]

no they're making more money than ever right now

[tight haven]

pm is doing way better than they ever expected

[drifting quest]

they blew up this past year or so

[warped sorrel]

thats nice
never play it tho

[smoky quarry]

Origeo from paid bp gives you like 5.2 pulls

[tight haven]

purely off hype and goodwill

[drifting quest]

to be fair ive never really played a gacha that was like what

hoyo, kuro

[tight haven]

yeah its pretty sad

lol

[drifting quest]

r1999 but i was only ever f2p in r1999

black beacon but i never spent on that game and then it eos'd like 3mo in

[tight haven]

r1999 bp is what i expect others to abide by

[warped sorrel]

Banner in this Bp isnt that cool

[tight haven]

pgr's bp is also pretty nice imo

[warped sorrel]

but the arsenal ticket is really tempting me

[tight haven]

if they doubled the arsenal ticket amount id like that

thats basically the only reason i get it ngl

[smoky quarry]

Maybe I don't understand something about business, but when you have more than 10 competitors, don't you need to come up with something that will attract players to you?

[warped sorrel]

very cool that they give bp for free

[tight haven]

the freemium bp i consider to just be part of the free bp

it pays back for itself so in effect it's just part of the "free" bp

theres no meaningful value difference

[tight haven]

as a whale i do like that endfield isnt asking for a fifth of my paycheck for every p5p5 i chase

[smoky quarry]

the hell it does

[tight haven]

besides it just being fun for me

[smoky quarry]

it's the same as other gachas

[tight haven]

nooooooo dude

[smoky quarry]

1-4k grands

[tight haven]

holy shit not even close so far

[warped sorrel]

its like there is no reason to pull feature character weapon at all

[tight haven]

all my p5p5s have been less than 1k

[warped sorrel]

except it look great

[smoky quarry]

crazy luck I guess? Cause that result is mathematically unlikely

[tight haven]

my 50/50 rate is a pretty even 50/50 mind you

and my 6* rate is just slightly above the expected rate

[smoky quarry]

We already have two cases like that

LR and TT

[warped sorrel]

worst case for P5P5 is 1,355,000

idk how much money is tthat tho

[tight haven]

the worst case scenario is just a lot, lot harder to run into ime

i typically pull p5 by 480, if not slightly higher due to the token tributes not resetting pity (which is something i guess)

in any case endfield does just feel less dogshit to whale on than wuwa or any hoyo game has for me

[smoky quarry]

480 pulls is already 960 dollars

[tight haven]

not for me it isn't

[smoky quarry]

What's your country?

Man, woudn't it be hella funny if my country has no regional prices at all, and your cuts prices in half

[tight haven]

it just doesn't cost that much for me

dunno why exactly but it's more like ~$700

[smoky quarry]

The general rule is 2$/pull

[tight haven]

and on top of that i get a fair amount of the way to p5ing their weap due to how arsenal issue works

though i definitely still have my gripes with it

[smoky quarry]

100 dollars for 350 origeo pack

which is 50 pulls (52.5 actually)

Math checks out?

[tight haven]

it does not cost $100 for me

[smoky quarry]

so they do have regional prices

[drifting quest]

yes

[smoky quarry]

just not for eastern europe i guess

friends for centuries, lol

Imagine having a wage of 3 gacha pulls in hour

IT IS EVEN WORSE IN MY COUNTRY

2.32 dollars per pull

What the hell are those regional prices

[tight haven]

yeah their regional pricing is crazy afaict

not entirely sure why the discrepancies are so extreme

[smoky quarry]

evil steam sale type of shit

[warped sorrel]

why are you using A$$ money

[smoky quarry]

?

[tight haven]

awesome dollars*

my man's never bought something in A$

[smoky quarry]

Australian dollar?

[tight haven]

awesome dollars*

dude youre literally from Awesome

cmon now

[daring dove]

Can't you just use your 1 time selector to get the essence you want from Valley?

[smoky quarry]

that's just online pic

[warped sorrel]

Awesome

[tight haven]

they already used it

[daring dove]

[bold rose]

.

[tight haven]

im never using my essence selector

[warped sorrel]

hope they put more of that essence selector

[honest hill]

It's pretty mid ngl

1 1 1

[daring dove]

I'm keeping mine since I doubt we'll get essence info on upcoming characters in advance anymore.

[warped sorrel]

eventhough you have to farm more anyway

the upgrade system suck

[smoky quarry]

what's the point in getting essense early if you won't have fodder to level it up

[warped sorrel]

genshin slop

[smoky quarry]

it takes 2 weeks to farm enough fodder essenses anyway

[tight haven]

how it feels to hoard shit for no reason

[warped sorrel]

remember the instant E2 in AK?

[tight haven]

dude an e2 trainer in endfield

would be so nutty

[halcyon zenith]

i dont get this? is 14 less arts intensity rly worth losing 70% electric bonus?
alternatively u could even have triple pulsar for 132 arts intensity with lynx gloves only losing few % ult gain efficiency?

[warped sorrel]

make some content with reward like instant full Essense upgrade

[tight haven]

literally more value than the monthly mats pack

sorry e4*

[daring dove]

Depends I had Tangtang fully essenced on the day she released. But I did take a chance & pre-built her essence a bit. I'm not taking that chance with Rossi though.

[tight haven]

godawful essence luck paid itself back today

wish i recorded it but i hit +1 > +3 on det and +1 > +6 on atk in like 20 essences

[warped sorrel]

maybe i dont have to build tthe third team

[tight haven]

that was fucking crazy

[warped sorrel]

maybe the content that require more than one team will never come

sanity should only spend on essense

[smoky quarry]

I lowkey want to stockpile sanity to do 10 alluviums in one day, cause doing 9 essenses everyday and getting nothing out of it kinda angers me

[halcyon zenith]

i just did essences with no tickets for fodder for the future, if i get sth good along the way nice, if not who cares

[warped sorrel]

what if you still not getting the essense you wantt after that

[smoky quarry]

If I get a lot of essenses in one day at least I won't feel like my time was wasted, cause I will upgrade some levels

[drifting quest]

just set up an afk

we have ifrit lanes now

farm alluviums while you do something else

i usually run my alluviums while im tc'ing

[warped sorrel]

best gacha gameplay is to not play the game

[daring dove]

How long are they taking you guys to clear for me it's 40 second content anyway.

I never set up any turrets

[drifting quest]

yeah i mean its like 30s - 1m

with turrets

but i can just afk it

[halcyon zenith]

is there some breakpoint here that perlica reaches with redeemer seal vs lynx gloves? otherwise wouldnt triple pulsar lynx gloves be better?

LR+TT+Xaihi team

[honest hill]

Need redeemer seal for uge but idk how much

[smoky quarry]

Just how? If you walk away, enemies will follow you

[drifting quest]

there's safe spots to afk at

[smoky quarry]

And since I needed to be here anyway, I removed turrets since they broke the flow of rotation

I have a minor issue with Avy/Perli team, enemies are too squishy and usually don't survive perlica bs + final strike

And thus I get SP issues and can't throw spears with perfect downtime

Any workarounds?

[honest hill]

Where's ur gilb

@drifting quest do u know how strong wedge + 3pc mi is for tt

[smoky quarry]

Pretty sure iana considered this, but lynx can't break uge breakpoint

[smoky quarry]

On the deck, but how she makes situation better?

[honest hill]

she group enemies she can kill enemies herself too

[drifting quest]

worse than 3p mi + sig which is already realistically poor performance

[smoky quarry]

that's not gonna change anything, enemies will die even quicker

[dry kindle]

https://youtu.be/7Yy8bGWrTko tap in

[smoky quarry]

the issue is that fodder enemy dies on the 3-4th attack after getting hasan dog treatment

[honest hill]

comparing it to BP bonekrusha it's still worse right

[drifting quest]

probably* but i dont know for sure

[honest hill]

Does this mean game will eos

[smoky quarry]

without letting me trigger avy combo

I look for a fatter enemy, can't find one. Strike normal one, and he dies too early too

maybe my perlica is just too strong

[dry kindle]

Oh yeah how do ifrit lanes work do you just drop em on the alluviums and enemies get shoved into lane?

[honest hill]

What is she using

[smoky quarry]

Oblivion, 3x pulsar, slab. Built like sub-dps

[honest hill]

There's ur problem switch obli to deto

[halcyon zenith]

Alright, good to know at least, no point in making it then, woulda just been nice to see some more explanation than "u can use pulsar and suffer" but alas

[smoky quarry]

That will result in team dps loss

[smoky quarry]

I really think that iana should explain gear picks better

[halcyon zenith]

Yeah, also took me like a few minutes to decipher the pieces each one is wearing, so many same pictures or like just kinda close ones doesn't help and I ain't even on mobile

Now time to figure out who I'm artificing first qq

[honest hill]

Pretty sure deto is better

tbh idk

[outer ermine]

ur better

[smoky quarry]

I won't switch even if I'll see proofs, cause I need sub-dps on the team for flexibility

[honest hill]

well in ST it is better

but

sub dps prob not as good as obli

I mean obli her dps wep