theorycrafting

[twilit quail]

【汤汤完美循环轴，一直打一直有，以及装备推荐。】 https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1qGw2zmEYR/

this is the full stable version

impossbile to fuck up

there's also uhh

3 whirl 3 corro 4 ice

but it's weird and Im not sure if it's gain over time

[frozen tide]

[twilit quail]

and incompatible with normal gearing at p4+ tt

because of sp refund

[frozen tide]

does tt p1 change optimal rot at all

[twilit quail]

it changes gearing sometimes

but that's kind of it

[frozen tide]

ic

[twilit quail]

it makes the rotation less stable

if anything

[gaunt mason]

it depends on the fight

[twilit quail]

swordmancer pog is like 2% less breach multiplier in exchange for stagger

it's purely fight dependent

33 extra stagger over standard 4/4

more if 4/3/4 4/3/3

[steel trout]

who is iana

[gaunt mason]

我自动下载原神

[twilit quail]

the name means

[steel trout]

so just to sort out the gear then

whether its physical or electric build

[twilit quail]

"if you @ me your device automatically downloads genshin impact"

[honest hill]

Like the boss ur up against?

[twilit quail]

yes

[frozen tide]

a fate worse than death

[steel trout]

i cant read that

oh

[quartz horizon]

whats the optimal rot

[steel trout]

wait

is that the person

[gaunt mason]

marble and triag/rhod have diff stagger values

[steel trout]

with the doc everyone keeps talking about

[frozen tide]

i honestly do not know

😭

ask iana

since hes here

[smoky quarry]

iana files

[honest hill]

okay so what would it be for those bosses

[quartz horizon]

iana release the secrets of t0 LR!!

[steel trout]

i keep hearing about this iana doc

[twilit quail]

I make the rotation graphics when I feel like it

[steel trout]

what is it

[honest hill]

She's T0 easily

[twilit quail]

LR + TT has a really nasty full alignment

[smoky quarry]

Minmax team guide

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W0FL8l3UOerwfS4Y5D2yHdJlXadz_vmmBSND6zUyn-8/edit?gid=1741588664#gid=1741588664

[gaunt mason]

you don't need the extra stagger from swordmancer pog for triag/rhod generally

[twilit quail]

4 combo 3 whirl 3 combo all in full buffs

[smoky quarry]

bible of theorycrafting pretty much lol

[gaunt mason]

marble might feel a little better with the stagger but it's also not super needed with a 4/3/4

[steel trout]

bible???

who gave it that title

[gaunt mason]

you stagger by the second endmin crystal

[smoky quarry]

i did

[steel trout]

interesting

[smoky quarry]

[twilit quail]

look Im just some guy on the internet

[honest hill]

so in general ai maxxing pog

[smoky quarry]

who spent unreasonable amount of time to make the most based guide on teams, huh

[steel trout]

actually has shatter on here...

[honest hill]

[gaunt mason]

generally yeah, for triag you can consider running a little more ult gain for comfort

[quartz horizon]

idk rn i am using maygi's builds which look like cuz bosses fall in one rotation anyway right

[honest hill]

I wouldn't use arthertech chest on lr

[warped sorrel]

does it matter who consume link

[honest hill]

also what is ur xaihi running

[steel trout]

lowkey

[quartz horizon]

xiranite

is it not better than mix maxing int

the set bonus

[honest hill]

why she should be int maxxing

[smoky quarry]

I'd replace gloves for xiranite in order to fit perlica ult into rotation, so you can utilise stanza every rot

[quartz horizon]

i meant will

[dusk isle]

No other xira viable user in that comp tho

[honest hill]

ig so

[quartz horizon]

i mightve equipped the wrong piece but still

[edgy crater]

u got 1 rot 1 ulti?

[honest hill]

not int maxxing on xaihi feels wrong

[dusk isle]

Redeemer chest with 2nd xira kit might be more int tho idk

[honest hill]

nah sec attr from frontier is good

it's like a slab

[quartz horizon]

mhm

[steel trout]

i think its this

and m3 ult

[smoky quarry]

Can anyone remind me why ardelia is rarely used on avywenna team?

[dusk isle]

Yes but xira chest has secondary int and tube needs higher base int for higher returns

[honest hill]

gilberta better because she can do corrosion 4

[smoky quarry]

Resist values can go into negatives?

[steel trout]

wait

who was cooking arclight dps with me

i forgot

[honest hill]

idk redeemer chest is better

[smoky quarry]

I pretty much said my final word. BK for subdps, slab for main dps

[dusk isle]

Im going to see which is more

[edgy crater]

just compare it bruh

[steel trout]

based on what tho

[honest hill]

idk not the right person to ask but on my tested ardelia is slightly worse

[honest hill]

hey if I was rich like you I would

always complaining aren't you

[quartz horizon]

xiranite gloves for perlica?

[edgy crater]

just compare it on fresh gear

[honest hill]

you compare it on fresh gear smh

[smoky quarry]

I don't use gilberta for corrosion on electroteam, I don't get it

Most enemies don't even have electro-resist

[steel trout]

are u talking about the arclight team?

[honest hill]

no who even uses her

[gritty briar]

it does yes

[steel trout]

we were deadass cooking arclight dps

[smoky quarry]

so it's what, 10% damage increase?

[honest hill]

[quartz horizon]

why not

[honest hill]

She get wheelchaired like crazy

[gritty briar]

depends on arts intensity and how long you wait

[steel trout]

by who

[smoky quarry]

Ig i'll keep ignoring corrosion then

[dusk isle]

546 for redeemer + 3p xira vs 515 for tube + 3p xira at p3 deto (im missing int artifice on xira pieces tho)

[steel trout]

theres no avy on the team

its arclight antal perlica gilberta

for the electric verison

[honest hill]

it does depend if u have everything ready during stagger which probably only be marble boss

[steel trout]

and the physical version is arclight perlica alesh akekuri

if u wanna maximize the combo skill

[honest hill]

I use frontier armour for the ult dmg bonus

Yinglung is decent as well

[steel trout]

on who

[honest hill]

For LR

[steel trout]

did the arclight convo just end after grand vision @gritty briar

[honest hill]

yinglung has all skill dmg bonus plus will str

[gritty briar]

idk people stopped talking about it

i don't really have any ideas for gearing it either

[quartz horizon]

interesting how there's still no one answer for gear yet

[smoky quarry]

Can we go much higher

[dusk isle]

Why stanza on 12f

[steel trout]

my idea was the new mi security shit

[smoky quarry]

twelve what

[steel trout]

the gear that was meant for rossi

can be used for arclight

its agility and intellect

[dusk isle]

Antal

[steel trout]

and ult damag bonus

[gritty briar]

could work

[smoky quarry]

Cause it's best on antal?

[drifting quest]

stanza does not work on units that share an element

[dusk isle]

Avy team cant use stanza antal

[smoky quarry]

I have detonation, but antal applies arts burst like twice a minute

[steel trout]

i alreadt have the rotations down so

[drifting quest]

as antal is electric, stanza doesnt work on the other electric units

[smoky quarry]

wait i'm degenerate

[steel trout]

do u have anything to base your bk and slab thing off of

for arclight

[honest hill]

Yeah stanza don't work there

[gritty briar]

this is what you get for being a gilberta nonbeliever

[honest hill]

deto is better

[steel trout]

those exist?

[smoky quarry]

Do they synergise?

[steel trout]

well its not his skill doing it

[dusk isle]

It might not since arde cant use it as well

[steel trout]

its just the passive

[gaunt mason]

i saw a 78 something second arclight rhodagn clear yesterday

[steel trout]

dps?

[smoky quarry]

I like how with this essense I don't even need etching deto

It's just perfect as it is

[warped sorrel]

does it matter who consume link or its a team buff

[honest hill]

it does

[gritty briar]

it's only on the skill that consumed it

[smoky quarry]

1 instant of a skill

[gaunt mason]

【【终末地 弧光主C】78s罗丹！突破极限！】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1X2wVzLE3G/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=88856b5af85ca36f97c236b1dd16c1bb

[honest hill]

Max the ai out

[smoky quarry]

I just don't like that detonation unit buff uptime on antal will be only 60%

[dreamy cave]

yay, giga brain xaihi

[smoky quarry]

Anal won't make a lot of use out of it, AI is for perlica

and perlica is high investment sub-dps on my team

[dusk isle]

P x arde sig?

[smoky quarry]

(Actually main-dps since she has bigger share than avywenna already)

[honest hill]

Doesn't his skill apply electric infliction

[dusk isle]

Only his cs, long cd

[smoky quarry]

It'll apply arts burst for 500 damage

or something like that

[steel trout]

i knew i was cooking with alesh

[honest hill]

That's gay

[honest hill]

It's something

[smoky quarry]

antal damage share rivals pog's

[smoky quarry]

25s to be precise

[gritty briar]

idk just time it
fwiw it'd be a bit higher than that because the cooldown runs during the timestops but the debuff gets paused by them

you could theoretically make his 25 second cooldown run out before a 15 second debuff runs out just by spamming dodges to stop time

[dusk isle]

Is that the second longest after fluo ?

[gritty briar]

ults, dodges, combo skill pauses

[steel trout]

this is fire

thanks

[honest hill]

I would replace arclight w ake and antal with gilberta then give deto to perli

[dusk isle]

Mb catcher exists

[honest hill]

Fluo 40s cd is just so bad

why is it 40s

[smoky quarry]

Fluorite cs is literally antal but worse

4 stars balance decisions are terrible

[gritty briar]

the devs enjoy making fluorite fans suffer

[drifting berry]

Fluorite main miss their chance the moment TT sig didn't work on Fluorite

[smoky quarry]

Balance division really hates guys from art division

[gritty briar]

they keep ragebaiting the fluorite dps players with tangtang weapons

[smoky quarry]

they were mad cause artist cooked with this 4 star

[gritty briar]

tt sig doesn't work on her
bp weapon for literally no reason has nature damage just to taunt you

[dusk isle]

The bp weapon working on cs was the biggest fuck you ever for fluo

[smoky quarry]

Let's just cope that devs will make fluorite alter

Cause for now she's only good for collecting farming plots on infra-station

if you know what am I talking about

[drifting berry]

Yeah best chance is just wait for her to get a alter, hope they don't mess it up by making Fluorite alter a 5*

[gritty briar]

also have you ever seen all those fluorite speedkill videos where she's running hotwork and her gear options are so bad that she has as much int as her agi, when agi is her primary stat

[smoky quarry]

strongest wheelchair of history vs strongest wheelchair of today

[drifting berry]

Nature so extra

[gritty briar]

like i can go check lamore's fluorite runs right now
look at how much int she is forced to wear.

[smoky quarry]

even devs dgaf about fluorite, no new parts for her

😭

[smoky quarry]

They should have just made arts damage boost in second line

same for brigand

and it would be much better

[gritty briar]

devs just want her to suffer

[smoky quarry]

They just want to make sure that chars' signatures are not reusable for other operators

Like khrav on snowshine

[drifting berry]

And she even sucks at Corrosion because she cannot even trigger corrosion with anything other than BS and the Combo + Ult infliction only really matter on the first rotation

[smoky quarry]

such a dick move tbh

[gritty briar]

like it's not even really a rule that the bp weapons have to be hyper specific.
rossi bp sword works on chen

[smoky quarry]

ironically, it won't be good for rossi

check it out

[drifting berry]

Just hoping they forget about Fluorite completely so she get's buff by accident. If they remember Fluorite exist they will make sure neither any signature or gear set will work properly on her

That or waiting for them to add modules

[smoky quarry]

with modules she'll be forgotten cause other operators will get higher upscales from them

fluorite module will be shit

[drifting berry]

Fluorite will get the 10% arts res ignore + extra slow or something

extra slow at mod lvl 3

[smoky quarry]

-1cs cooldown

Idk how they managed to do caster bad at the only thing it's supposed to do

not even talking about being sub-dmg

[drifting berry]

Fluorite gains DMG Dealt +20% against DMG Dealt +30% against Slow targets.

[smoky quarry]

10 SP returns if improvised bomb is exploded by ultimate

[twilit quail]

actual rotation: stagger bomb and ult so you dont refund the sp

I LOVE SP REFUND

[warped sorrel]

Flourite alter in 7years

witth monster hunter collab

[drifting berry]

unrelated, what are these youtube recomendations?

[smoky quarry]

Making one of the best designed characters the weakest is some top tier genshin move

[lyric latch]

So the slow from TT whirlpools are a dmg increase for Fluorite huh

[gritty briar]

they know making fluorite good wouldn't make them money cause she's a 4 star

[warped sorrel]

green women in bodysuit is the best design?

[smoky quarry]

It's deeper than that

[drifting berry]

I will eventually just max out Fluorite because of how much I like her and w with strong enough supports she can do some damage at least

[warped sorrel]

shes also sexy

[drifting berry]

What would be her team currently? Xiahi-Gilberta-Perlica I guess?

[warped sorrel]

is fluerite main dps good

[smoky quarry]

I prefer facial expressions and personality

[warped sorrel]

is it like half of laevatain dps

[drifting berry]

idk if TT can go in this team or nah

[smoky quarry]

Fluorite can cast for TT

not the other way around

I wonder why they point out sp cost on each skill, like they ever gonna introduce sp cost discounts

or character who don't need full charge

[gritty briar]

one day they'll release some nature agility dps character with guns, and they'll have a sig that gives +100% atk and +100% nature damage, except if your name is fluorite

[smoky quarry]

I like how snowshine does nothing useful for the team even if you wanna slot her somewhere

Cryo infliction that requires baiting out attack, combo heal (skill solution), and some ult that could be potentially useful

if not for 20s cooldown

and her talents nor potentials don't fix her

All defenders are frauds?

[drifting berry]

Also it's funny that the only good 6* weapon option for Fluorite is Wedge, all the other 6* hand cannons have either the incorrect secundary stat or their passive cannot be trigger by her

[smoky quarry]

OBJ weapons are tuned for Z7 members specifically

Fluorite's gun is the exception

[edgy crater]

catcher see some potential

[gritty briar]

the fact that wedge is actually not a bad dps weapon for her is the one mercy the devs have granted her

[smoky quarry]

she can't use the third line

why the fuck operator can't use its signature

[fresh trench]

60 sp skill tho

[gritty briar]

she can

[smoky quarry]

cheap cryo application? Might be useful in future in case we will get another cryo hypercarry who can't work with other cryo applicators

[drifting berry]

She can

Arts DMG Dealt +33.6%. When the wielder casts a battle skill, the wielder gains Arts DMG Dealt +22.4% for 15.00s. When the wielder's battle skill applies an Arts Reaction, the wielder gains Arts DMG Dealt +44.8% for 15.00s. The two effects apply separately and do not stack with themselves.

And her BS applies nature

[smoky quarry]

Oh, right, she has to convert something to corrosion

in order to trigger it

but there's no innate reaction in her toolkit

no other signatures work like that

[gritty briar]

well her intended gameplan is to stack up cryo and convert to corrosion

cause she can do both

[drifting berry]

She just need to apply a lvl 4 corrosion at the beginning and then keep refreshing it

Unlucky that the base damage of corrosion is so low

[smoky quarry]

resistance shred isn't great either

[gritty briar]

resistance shred is pretty good tho

[drifting berry]

It's

The reduction values are listed as percentage points and are added to the enemy's incoming damage modifier, a reduction of 24 will lead to 24% more damage against an enemy that has no resistance against the damage type used. Against an enemy with resistances the effect increases: For example, Heavy Ram has a 0.8 multiplier for incoming Physical Damage, adding the 24 points increases the Physical Damage taken from 0.8 to 1.04, effectively increasing the damage taken by 30%.

[smoky quarry]

This would be insane on 6 star weapon

[drifting berry]

The issue again is that, if Fluorite is the one that trigger corrosion, you are just getting the base value because you lack arts intencity

[fresh trench]

I use her to combo with last rite and fluorite,last rite final strike by getting cheap infliction she combo and eat infliction quickly i dont use her for ukt or combo sadly but 60 sp and last rite 70 sp,this is truly sp scammer team

[edgy crater]

[drifting berry]

But you also need to trigger corrosion to get the effects from Wedge

[smoky quarry]

You use howling guard?

[edgy crater]

dats ageloslayer lol

[smoky quarry]

oh, another 4 star trash

i remember using on avywenna

[drifting berry]

So what would be the solution, Have Gilberta build full Arts intencity, have her trigger the first corrosion and after that have Fluorite being the one that refreshes the corrosion effect

[smoky quarry]

at the start of the game

then i got jet from weapon case

[gritty briar]

yeah she's not getting the full value of corrosion.
getting the initial value of 7.2 res reduction is still something though, and she'd usually build some intensity anyways

[smoky quarry]

Solution would be planting improvised explosive under sales division's door

[edgy crater]

yeah, but i miss up the weap name, up dat spear instead pathfinder for lifeng

[gritty briar]

well this is what a dps fluorite looks like
https://youtu.be/HZGBy05tqEk

without food too

[smoky quarry]

Can we rework these talents into something actually useful for teambuilding?

[drifting berry]

Yeah, it's not horrible, she still does decent damage, what I was trying to look for is that if there was any way to also get corrosion somehow into the rotation but lvl 1/lvl 2 corrosion is probably the maximum you can achieve.

Only way I can think to achieve lvl 3/lvl 4 corrosion would be by using Fluorite combo+ult at the beginning of the combo but that would mean wasting your main dps combo and ult for the sake of getting corrosion

Also you would need Gilberta to either ult or bs for her to trigger corrosion

Need more tanky bosses or something

[gritty briar]

well you can get max corrosion for a rotation if you really try to force it

i've done it actually

[drifting berry]

Yeah, like you can, is just that the set up takes to long when the bosses can be killes within 1 or 2 rotations anyways

And if you do it fast you are wasting your first rotation of ult + combo

[gritty briar]

you just bomb after getting 4 stack cryo for the corrosion and then wait 10 seconds before doing bomb + ult

can do anything during those 10 seconds in the meantime

[steel trout]

who

[inland quarry]

I noticed that the gearing in the teambuilding sheet is significantly different from maygi's video for the lr tt team. Is there somewhere I can find reasoning for the sheet?

[drifting berry]

Changes depending on the rotation, calcs on sheet prob use a different rotation and on that rotation the gear shown was better

[gaunt mason]

maygi starts at 0 energy

[inland quarry]

Sheet is quite hard to use without knowing the rotation it's for then no?

Why the xiranite arms on xaihi as well? Wouldn't power cores provide the same ult gain but more int?

[gaunt mason]

gear looks like it's for a 4+3 lr burst rotation

[smoky quarry]

you can ask iana right here, he's online

[gaunt mason]

i'm not too sure though you'd have to ask

[smoky quarry]

iana guide really misses some gearing explanations

Needs more info and reasoning on picks

[inland quarry]

It makes sense to go eternal xiranite over int with perlica, but I don't see why will would take priority over int

[smoky quarry]

TangTang does unnecessary backflip when she bounces of electrofence 😭😭😭

[odd wren]

Leon flipping

[inland quarry]

I think the high ult gain is going for a very different rotation

Unfortunately, that makes the sheet's gear unusable as is

Due to the rotation not being on there

[forest ermine]

Should I use bonekrusha or mi security gloves for tang2?

[gaunt mason]

it looks like this one

【【终末地】别礼+汤汤+佩丽卡 4+4入门循环轴教学&装备推荐 别汤赛佩】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BEwjzwEJc/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=88856b5af85ca36f97c236b1dd16c1bb

[inland quarry]

I still don't understand why both choose xiranite arms over power core

[gaunt mason]

probably just a mistake

[quartz horizon]

what do those numbers mean

[gaunt mason]

cryo stacks

[quartz horizon]

whats the difference

isnt 4 better for burst turn

[gaunt mason]

the sheet should actually be for a 4+4 though that's my bad

[quartz horizon]

ah ok

[gaunt mason]

4+3 condenses damage into a very short window

[quartz horizon]

i wish i understood what was said

i'm all for maining tt on field tho!

[fresh trench]

what if

what if i dont care about the Hot set and skip to use for main stats

[digital scroll]

@tight haven yo do you have any update on p4 lifeng gears with the new stuff? i held back on artificing before so just wondering if it's still too early to tell or u cooked something 🙏

[fresh trench]

violence is not an answer its a question and answer is a yes

[inland quarry]

Is it reasonable for me to go yinglung armor on lr instead of aethertech to have a more general choice? I feel that lining up staggers is more inconsistent

[bronze plume]

double slab ardelia looks so cursed

[tight haven]

redeemer gloves and chest

running 2x redeemer 2x slab personally

[edgy crater]

w8, lifeng use redeemer chest? the agi one?

[tight haven]

its an option

[bronze plume]

imagine if they gave redeemer a set bonus that further increases ult gain

that would be funny

[edgy crater]

CO lifeng?

[tight haven]

youre really using it for the huge agi stat

[tight haven]

p4+

[edgy crater]

i mean is it as CO or not

[tight haven]

youre using lifeng as a dps

CO?

[edgy crater]

ah ok2

control operator

[tight haven]

oh

i mean you can

you probably shouldnt because his bskill is extremely interruptable and takes a long time

but you can

[edgy crater]

swap shenanigan maybe?

[tight haven]

if you really want to mald yes

[digital scroll]

mmmm just raw stats then alright. basic atk bonus is not THAT wasted, hes using basics here and there so looks fine to me. how sure are you about this? just askin if i should still hold on artificing cuz too soon

[tight haven]

im using it atm and its very very comfortable

the gameplay remains the same

[digital scroll]

i do this a lot tbh. his basics are comfy and hit pretty hard and just swap off during skill

[tight haven]

use bskill as often as possible

[digital scroll]

at least it helps me not fall asleep during combat

[fresh trench]

I am super mad i try everything to make her get trim,nothing and i meant NOTHIN work as it should,i keep getting less than 3 minutes but not less than 2:30,i will try again at p5 or another oblivion p but i spent a little too much for her on permanent banner its not funny now,so i will stop hoping to roll her again and kept her trust at 199 unti i get that last p

[digital scroll]

[bronze plume]

can i swap places with dolly

[bronze plume]

i mean is it really that surprising?

[fresh trench]

not really

i surpise she even get it less than 3 minutes tbh

[bronze plume]

clearly 1st anni will be ardelia the hvit aska

bam nature dps ardelia

[fresh trench]

i will try again with this double slab to see if its improve time or not

[digital scroll]

actually whos ur 4th? endmin or pan?

[fresh trench]

i have no idea how double slab even work

i just see that laevaethan and its look funny

[bronze plume]

it literally just stacks a lot of main stat attribute

[tight haven]

endmin

dapan got a bigger upscale this patch though

[fresh trench]

hey its funny aight

[bronze plume]

and since it has int it stacks a lot of int

[tight haven]

i just like endmin personally

[digital scroll]

i kinda want a sustain slot alrdy that does something and isnt ember but ye endmin is fine for now for me too. ah wait i need to update phys gears

[fresh trench]

pemguim

[bronze plume]

why do you have a potato

[digital scroll]

the iana sheet phys gears apply to the other 3 goobers regardless of p4 lif right?

also i have seen that sundering might be out? oh dear we can get rid of that eyesore???

[tight haven]

everyone in ianas doc is assumed p0

[digital scroll]

yeah i know

[tight haven]

yes sundering loses to glorious memory

the new bp sword

[digital scroll]

but the other 3 characters builds sohuld be the same

[edgy crater]

n looks better too

[digital scroll]

regardless if lif is p4 or not right?

[tight haven]

yes

xiranite lifeng is also a more viable way of playing at p4+

due to chen getting a nominal dps increase this patch

[digital scroll]

i dont want xiranite lifeng eeeewwwww

[tight haven]

same

lmao

[digital scroll]

hmm ok so a glove swap for chen to redeemer, endmin stayed the same

and pog finally off the yellow set thank god

wait swordmancer pog ooo

hmm iana sheet doesnt really explain the 2 new pog builds

why or which when

[edgy crater]

pog sm -> chen ulti set
pog hw -> chen sm

probably like dat

[gaunt mason]

it depends on the fight

generally you don't actually need the extra stagger

marble maybe, depends on your skill issue

[digital scroll]

thing is theres no fight

cuz theres nothing

to gear for

so im just gearing for ... nothing

but it's fun to optimize on paper

so thats why im looking into it 😄

[gaunt mason]

are you gonna get the bp sword for chen

[digital scroll]

yes

100%

[gaunt mason]

or are you using rapid

[digital scroll]

fk sundering

fugly ass

i even have p4 for some reason

but FK IT

[gaunt mason]

switch to 3x yinglung

agi str chest, redeemer/sm ult hands, 2x yinglung ult% kit

decent increase over swordmancer on the bp sword

[digital scroll]

mhmmmm

and then this means pog will go on sm instead ig

so we have some stagger back

[gaunt mason]

only if you need the stagger

usually you don't

[digital scroll]

hm

ye i dont

[gaunt mason]

especially not on triag/rhod

[digital scroll]

kay

hotwork it is

[gaunt mason]

i forgot about the new boss he can't even get staggered lmfao

[steel trout]

what are we gonna call m3’s ultimate skill when it comes out

m3 ult is already a term 😂

[civic wolf]

how significant is artifice actually is

i feel like i'm getting the impression that they aren't that much of a big deal

unless its just me coping about my already invested artifices

[edgy crater]

16%?

[icy remnant]

I don’t see why diluting even more Ult damage would be better for BP sword
Isn’t it the opposite

BP sword should be comparably better the less dmg% we have

[civic wolf]

if its just the 3rd stat artifice? the 1st and 2nd stat feels like a scam in comparison

[edgy crater]

no idea if its 3rd line only

[icy remnant]

I mean a single level of Attack% L is 3%

So

[edgy crater]

only comparing max arti vs fresh number

[gaunt mason]

a big portion of chen’s damage is already concentrated in the ult on swordmancer sundering

[icy remnant]

It’s not about where it’s concentrated

As in BP weapon already has a crap ton of dmg% in Ult dmg%

[gaunt mason]

better base stats

that’s a lot of it

[icy remnant]

I don’t see why using even more ult% dmg would make BP weapon better

[fast glacier]

what do you guys think of swordmancer chest for LR?

[icy remnant]

I’m still using the Aether tech chest

Staggered damage increase

[gaunt mason]

look at it this way

if we’re comparing sets on the bp sword

the ult is already 65-70% ish of chen’s total damage

using swordmancer flints for 59.8% generic phys damage is a nice buff sure

[icy remnant]

But comparatively the yinglung set is going to benefit sundering that gives more Attack%, more benefit, since it has like 150% ult dmg in it

[gaunt mason]

yinglung kits are like 67.3% ult each

and 15% passive atk

[gaunt mason]

sundering already distributes damage differently

because everything receives the attack buff, buffing everything further using generic phys damage is alright

[icy remnant]

It’s all about maximising final output

A x B x C

[gaunt mason]

if we’re minmaxing over a full rotation yinglung is slightly better on sundering too yes

but the increase is not as significant

[icy remnant]

From what I’m seeing the increase % wise should be higher w Sundering than BP

It’s just that overall BP is stronger than sundering at P5

[gaunt mason]

you’re welcome to do your own calcs

[digital scroll]

sundering is fugly enuff reason to trash it smh

[icy remnant]

I’m gonna use BP anyways eventually ye

But I disagree that quad stacking Ult dmg% makes the weapon stand out more
Should in fact be the opposite since it gets so diluted
I do like the attack% though

[gaunt mason]

again you can sheet it and see for yourself

[fast glacier]

would that be better for bosses tho? mobs already die before i can get them to stagger

[icy remnant]

I mean presumably you won’t be using Last rite for mobs

It’s for bosses yea

I see some people use the Yinglung skill dmg increase chest but I don’t like that the stats don’t fit perfectly

[fast glacier]

yeah same

thats why i was thinking of swormancer but same thing ultimate may not be the best option for LR either

[edgy crater]

just frontier chest with ulti damage on general

[fast glacier]

i mean that could be an option sadly it is intellect instead of will if not it would be perfect

[icy remnant]

I recently built my Last rite decently, pretty happy
Xaihi skills lvl3 Perlica lvl1 lol
Ignore how I messed up the electrification

LR sword is 462
Skills M1 on Ult and Combo

[edgy crater]

oh 30s afk stage

[icy remnant]

Testing on Rhodagn doesn’t feel as good cus they keep filling up my ult gauge

[edgy crater]

u can try yinglung lr there

yinglung lr got more value on umbral as no insta ulti

[icy remnant]

I want to test proper rotations and I can’t do it if they force me to start w full Ult every time

[quartz horizon]

then play gamemodes that dont give ult?

[icy remnant]

That’s what I did

[glass wind]

I need stats on Rossi's signature.

[long plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL1GzBLljBQ&t=188s

thoughts?

[smoky quarry]

ragebait used to be beliveable

[edgy crater]

[long plinth]

3c

still bk on tangtang?

[tight stream]

yes

[long plinth]

why no MI ?

[quartz horizon]

maths wrong? curious too

[summer flicker]

lmao

and wtf crit

kekw

[outer ermine]

supp tt enjoyer

[tight stream]

hes korean, I trust his maths

[quartz horizon]

is he wrong tho?

[fresh trench]

excuse me,may i see the stats on the armor? i wanna see how much stats it give at max artificed

[fresh trench]

so 34 more int and 3.8 more ult gain,from original thank you

[summer flicker]

the gambling build i guess

[quartz horizon]

ig. but he explained that she fires a ton and shows u can still consistently maintain 5 stacks

[tight haven]

not showing rotations is suspicious

i havent done any tangtang testing myself but making sweeping assertions without showing their rotations is suspect because their supposed dps loss could be a result of misusing tangtang herself

[long plinth]

yea but i kinda trust his maths

[tight haven]

only saying you should scrutinize people actively making assertions against what's known without showing all of their own work

[icy remnant]

If they’re using Xiranite set what’s their Xaihi using

[tight haven]

they could be right but i wouldnt be convinced if someone came out with some crazy new laev gear set saying its mathematically correct but at no point in their video do they show their rotations

[long plinth]

xaihi always maximizes on int

its usually gilberta on xirinite

[icy remnant]

Wait Gilberta TangTang Xaihi Yvonne?

[long plinth]

yea

[icy remnant]

No Perlica

[long plinth]

no

tangtang > perlica

[icy remnant]

Was thinking Perlica>Gilberta

[long plinth]

[quartz horizon]

for bosses thats true

[icy remnant]

TangTang is there to clean up nooks

Only relevant target left is the boss

[icy remnant]

But yea Perlica brings more damage than Gilberta

ST

So Xaihi uses Xiranite usually

Interestingly, in the video he went over Xiranite TangTang which can work

And then Xaihi goes back to maximise Int

I can see that being optimal for team damage

The crit part eh lol

Oh wait I just saw

His crit set is for main dps tang tang

Aight yea that makes sense

The crit set is pretty overloaded for free Attack if you can maintain the stacks

[smoky quarry]

I guess I won't play LR anytime soon

[icy remnant]

But yea Xiranite set for sub dps TT and crit set for main dps TT

[smoky quarry]

See you on tangtang rerun

[icy remnant]

Pretty sure 35% is compared to not having any team member at all

[long plinth]

if you go xirinite on tangtang what set on gilberta?

[icy remnant]

No Gilberta

[long plinth]

[icy remnant]

Arts intensity Perlica

Stanza

That’s the optimal single target dps comp

For Yvonne

For mooks you just send TangTang to clear them

Actually I guess TangTang doesn’t do that much damage w Xiranite

So it’ll just be single target

[outer ermine]

xir tt is supp cant call that shit subdps

[modest thorn]

what is the base sp regen?

[dawn shard]

Someone else posted numbers yesterday and it was more like 10%ish increase

[icy remnant]

I can see Xiranite TT Perlica Xaihi comp to be the best ST Yvonne comp but the moment you see a group of mooks you just lay down and cry

Yea the picture fegger posted is misleading

It’s just compared to not even having a team member

Instead of replacing someone

[smoky quarry]

iana guide btw

[potent hornet]

what group of mooks on overworld isn't dieing to TT bs, cs, bs

[smoky quarry]

probably needs better wording

[potent hornet]

cuz i haven't found one yet that lives through that

[smoky quarry]

so it's comparison of personal LR damage in

LR vs LR + TT scenarios

Genuinely why not just write "~10% higher team dps with tt"

[icy remnant]

It’s called agenda posting

You get used to it

[smoky quarry]

iana isn't about agenda though

it's about minmaxing

[icy remnant]

No idea what they’re on then

[smoky quarry]

you should ask him then

[icy remnant]

No point, we already know TangTangs contribution

Me asking him serves no purpose

[smoky quarry]

@twilit quail hey, your note on tt impact for last rite is confusing and (unintentionally?) misleading. Why is that so?

[timber harness]

How close minded

[potent hornet]

LR doesn't even need TangTang

she helps sure, but the LR, Xai, Perl, Ard team works great

[icy remnant]

The biggest part for this team is when you need to interrupt the boss

Let me get back to interrupting the boss in 3-4 business days

[potent hornet]

meh, never was a problem for me, i did all my trims with that team

trimmed the new boss with Xai, LR, TT, Yvonne lol

[smoky quarry]

new boss has 20% electro resist just in spite of avy/perli mains

[sour gazelle]

one of the CN WR speedrun & calcs guy is claiming tt LR team dps overtaking Yvonne team by 30% with optimized difficult rotations (tho with ez rotation for the average player it's only on par with Yvonne) so maybe it does have some truth in it

[twilit quail]

because it is that much of a % increase over previous LR team

0+1 TT with good rotation does almost 40% of team dmg

[warped sorrel]

hm

seem like wuling doesnt have hoyo region tthingy synergy

yet

[twilit quail]

with good stagger lineup the total rotation damage is like 3.5m+ over 49s

literally is more than 30% higher than benchmark for 1.0 teams

which is like 50-53k on a good day

TT can get all of the same buffs as LR and put everything in the same dmg window

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[lavish jay]

anyone got the rotations or a vid for yvonne/tang/xiahi/perlica?

[outer ermine]

she was the missing piece for cs speedkills

we literally had to depend on ard doing dmg cuz u cant squeeze out more dmg from lr so it had to come from somewhere else even better is that no more crit fishing

[summer flicker]

[outer ermine]

i forgor what was yvonne time on phase 1

think she also 30s

[molten star]

when everybody starts with 0 ult energy, in LR-TT team, tang tang only gets 2 watersprouts for first 2 combo of LR?

[terse bramble]

anyone knows whats the LR/TT rotation for the build in the sheet pinned?

[warped sorrel]

endfield tierlist when

[dry kindle]

Prydwen exists

[neat snow]

It hard to have a tier list when everything can clear everything

[warped sorrel]

everyone is T0 then

happy ending

so this is what we get from asking for no powercreep

there is 0 meta

[neat snow]

Perfectly balanced

[warped sorrel]

if they keep doing this

will it still fun

[neat snow]

I think more endgame content plus more ops will spread things out a bit

But they have to deliver it fast enough

[old condor]

@knotty swallow the other people here probably know better than I do but there were some old calcs on this sheet comparing the different sets from v1.0 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=245588407#gid=245588407
not sure if anyone has numbers for v1.1 set but it should be a bit better

[knotty swallow]

oh thanks

yeah im wondering how the new build would stack up to that since the new hotwork armor seems like a big upgrade over the old one

[dry kindle]

Ew

[pearl cypress]

meta is overrated when I can make poor building decisions and still win

[dry kindle]

[glass wind]

Why is this the only kit with Ultimate DMG Bonus

I want two of them for Rossi

[dry kindle]

L

[glass wind]

Imma try Type 50 Rossi

[glass wind]

Does Basic Attack DMG bonus stats increase Finisher's DMG?

[dry kindle]

Probably

[frosty zinc]

tbh i think rossi might be AGI/INT. being the smart girl she is haha. alot of the new pieces that seem to match her build are agi/int. id even prefer her to be agi/will over str. i really hope its not str.

[ashen scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/lapp-dumb-gif-21389762

[fresh trench]

hmm i cant improve my ardelia to solo trim the boss sadly

[glass wind]

[rocky saffron]

@twilit quail can you at least provide a piece of a combo on some team, like LR TG², explaining the reason you want to aim a certain threashold of uge, what does it allow to do in what combo etc.. ?

[peak void]

is 115.4% ult gain enough on laevatain

[frosty zinc]

she really doesnt need much as she gets alot of bonus ult gain from the melting stacks/heat inflictions etc. id go more heat damg.

[dry kindle]

Only need like 6% or whatever

[peak void]

oh

so i didnt need to artifice the ult on redeemer

lol

[ember island]

Is the yinglung set good for chen?

[glass wind]

I dont think so.

Try Mi Security

[ember island]

Ok thx

[glass wind]

Also Swordmancer

[terse raptor]

kinda good, especially if you increase chen's ult level

if you want better staggers, go use swordmancer

[ember island]

Ive tried both but her ult is stuck on 65k

[chilly bolt]

Yinglung is current best Chen dps build

You kinda need glorious tho

[obsidian oriole]

isn't this right? specifically the crit build, she has a ton of damage instances and I tried it myself, she pretty much always has 5 stacks (I don't have her sig though so p0 Wedge it is)

I watched the video and it does seem to make sense considering her damage buffs are heavily diluted from equip/talent (the 60/80% on ult.) and setting up her battle skills properly

[chilly bolt]

Looks like copium

Your main source of dmg is her bs

[long plinth]

she can mantain the same from offield?

[chilly bolt]

Therefore bone set would be better

[obsidian oriole]

yeah, she has all that battle skill damage and crit rate + the 5 stack ATK buff, right

[chilly bolt]

You keep that chest and hands, change to 2 bone masks

[long plinth]

the vid showed it for mdps tangtang but i wanna use her with yvonne

tho it said the same build for subdps tangtang

i wanted to know if MI set gets 5 stack from offield

[obsidian oriole]

idk what you mean fully by offield but she usually gets the stacks easy from her 1st battle skill basic attack combo

[long plinth]

isee

i artificed bk already sadge

[cold bane]

wait tangtang wants crit set??

[molten star]

Wouldn't critical be worse if no crt dmg

[odd wren]

[rare zodiac]

Crit set on soup? Questionable? Can she get 5 stack with just BA? If she need BS to get to 5 stack the buff gonna buff nothing

[fresh trench]

this is just for funny,who have the highest will stats for art unit operator?

[rare zodiac]

Gilb

[fresh trench]

i just for the funny wanna see how much will stats a character can have if you put 2 slab and Monaihe onto her

i dont hvae gilb sadly

i can try that for xaihi tho

[summer flower]

Most people can have 5 stacks with just basic attacks

Also, expected behaviour is getting more attack mid skill is increasing damage

Yea, about as I expected

[shrewd saffron]

bru what? that's some godtier luck, its only 10% crit rate

[leaden tartan]

Well... she hits quite a few times.

[summer flower]

Also what build is that?

[unique jungle]

Same above

[summer flower]

Might be different crit set pieces

[unique jungle]

T

But 1 crit

Kit

[leaden tartan]

Keep in mind this is for on-field tangtang only.

[shrewd saffron]

if you had 10% crit and got 5 stacks in the first 11 damage numbers, odds of that is 0.3%

[next helm]

Wait tangtang gets 2 seconds shaved off from lvls on her combo?

[chilly bolt]

Yes lol

[next helm]

Is she the only one?

[shrewd saffron]

there is a few, xaihi combo, and 2 others, forgot which ones

[chilly bolt]

Flourite

[unique jungle]

I ran 1 crit kit

[summer flower]

Yea 1 crit kit

[unique jungle]

Idk whats optimal tho

[leaden tartan]

I don't know about Xiranite Tangtang, honeslty. It's nice but damn... feels so anemic compared to BC. I have more application and can have higher int on Xaihi, but I can also... just do a bunch of damage instead.

[next helm]

How much worse is tangtang maindps

Over Yvonne

[acoustic trellis]

should i still run BC or crit set if i haven't artifice anything

[unique jungle]

Ill do it again

@shrewd saffron

Idk tho

I artificed bonekrusha already

And i see crit tt pop up

[leaden tartan]

Doesn't taking the 1 crit piece remove the advantage you had over BC Slab?

[shrewd saffron]

Yeah i have max artificed Bonekrusha aswell, but this is only onfield DPS with 0 basic attack / final strikes into the rotation. as i asked the youtuber about in the comment, his rotation for calculation was
Combo → Combo → Battle (2 whirl) → Ult → Battle (0 whirl) → Battle (0 whirl) → Dive Attack → Battle (Ult 0)

so 0 final strikes where lynx slab does outperform quite heavily on field comapred to support.

the difference from the crit build to bonekrusha in his calculation was 1 to 0.94 with the old set, and in that kind of burst rotation the crit would outperform

[unique jungle]

Is double mask on par with 1 lynx main stat slab btw or is it worse

[shrewd saffron]

umbral monument if you main dps soup, slab is better

[unique jungle]

Oh ok

I heard lynx was better and cheaper

Since u only need to do the main stat line bonus

[leaden tartan]

I wanna say like 4% better.

[drifting quest]

Slab can perform better

Differs per rot, team, weapon, yada yada

[leaden tartan]

IE depends on damage% saturation.

[long plinth]

can she reach 5 stack even when she is offield?

[drifting quest]

Not consistently

[leaden tartan]

Where type 50 chest is better is my big question...

[unique jungle]

With 1 crit kit yeah

[drifting quest]

You are encouraged to field mi units for consistency purposes

And more damage

[shrewd saffron]

crit kit is roughly 6-8% worse, you lose 50% BS damage, the crut rate doesn't make up for it

[long plinth]

isee

[unique jungle]

Lemme try the bs kit

[drifting quest]

Crit TT is pretty bait outside of mdps speedruns

[long plinth]

so mi security is her best set then?

[leaden tartan]

I mean yeah, if you don't care about asterisks.

[long plinth]

what asterisks?

ultimate gain issues?

[drifting quest]

A whole list

Bad for subdps (yvonne/lr)
Bad into a lot of bosses
Bad if you are unlucky
Only marginally ahead in idealised cases
UGE issues outside mdps
Etc etc

[long plinth]

Wait why is it bad for subdps?

If she can fully maintain the stacks

[unique jungle]

Without the crit kit

[shrewd saffron]

cause you can't stack MI as easily, you don't get her basic attacks so you lose out on a bunch of uptime on her set

[unique jungle]

2 stack gaming

[long plinth]

[drifting quest]

Off field ai sucks at actually maintaining pressure and hence mi stacks

[acoustic trellis]

should i use BC or MI if i use soup as mdps

[long plinth]

MI

Well then I'll use bc for subdps

[summer flower]

Guys you have 2 kit slots

[leaden tartan]

It's between that or Xiranite. I'm still trying to get a pulse on Xiranite with sig.

[summer flower]

Slab + crit kit

[drifting quest]

1 crit kit is so bad

Its pure critfish

Esp w/o any other source of cr

[unique jungle]

Wedge cope

[summer flower]

Crit kit, crit set, slab

[leaden tartan]

You mean with the m1 UE chest?

[drifting quest]

The roi from crit without mi sec 3p is terrible

[summer flower]

Crit set doesn't increase crit hit value more than getting to 5 stacks

It's not crit damage, so as long as 5 stacks is working

You don't lose on value from not having more crit

[leaden tartan]

3p M1 with the agility int ultimate efficiency chest, gloves, kit and slab.

[acoustic trellis]

wait is this better than BC chest + MI gloves and 2 kit?

[summer flower]

It's regarding that one build image, and then following showcases of behaviour with single crit piece

So you dip out of full crit set

[drifting quest]

Its crit laev all over again

[summer flower]

And you use crit piece that's in crit set

[drifting quest]

[summer flower]

I'm doing follow up on follow up

[acoustic trellis]

the one shown in video > BC set for soup mdps?

[leaden tartan]

You don't use any crit pieces on M1 TT.

[summer flower]

I don't claim it's best, I claim it should be improvement

[drifting quest]

Only in very specific timelines to speedrun where you dont mind resetting

Aka just rhodagn

And umbral speedruns

But not really next umbral

The enemies kinda suck for crit

[summer flower]

Yea videos shown

[outer ermine]

u can always reset for 100% crit

[summer flower]

But it's crit set pretty sure in those

[drifting quest]

1000 resets to clear in 30s vs 0 resets to clear in 40s

0 sanity behaviour

[summer flower]

Crit fishing is when you have single hit

[leaden tartan]

More like 31 seconds.

[summer flower]

DPS average up is when you have many same hits

[drifting quest]

Crit tt is critfish because you dont hit enough crit for any sense of consistency over short timelines

[shrewd saffron]

it's an improvement under specific circumstances with a specific rotation, i'm sure if you went looking you could find other builds that could do even more

[leaden tartan]

I think the bigger issue is we're still very limited in gear enhancement resources, making M1 TT a generally poor investment at this time.

[drifting quest]

Crit TT, pending seeing something new that I havent yet seen, is bait yes

[glass wind]

I heard someone says Crit is not really good yet on this game since still no crit dmg

[drifting quest]

Correct

Outside of edge cases crit is sunk cost

You dont get nearly as much out as you put in

[glass wind]

Is Art Intensity be better then?

But I need my Rossi to crit

[drifting quest]

AI has more use cases, but it is not generically better
And AI is not better damage as reaction damage is pitiful

Rossi is specifically a crit unit

She is in the edge case

She has CDmg buff in kit

[summer flower]

I remember hearing that building Yvonne crit is copium

Is that still case?

[drifting quest]

No

[leaden tartan]

The only reason crit looks mathematically appealing is that TT is just so stacked with damage %, but that also makes it likely to be replaced by another set in the future.

[drifting quest]

It never was

[sturdy hill]

thoughts on this cursed builds squad
ember pog endmin ange

[edgy crater]

gonna see her pot got similar treatment to yvonne, slap cr n cr damage on p3 n p5

[glass wind]

Isnt her main dmg just pure Cryo numbers

[summer flower]

I remember hearing that Yvonne overall is copium

[drifting quest]

There was potential for non crit yvonne but it just ended up sucking

[glass wind]

[summer flower]

Yea I remember those talks

[drifting quest]

Yvonne was copium for a while
In minmax tc context

[glass wind]

I thought the copium was her relying on Xaihi for Cryo inflictions

[drifting quest]

That's one of the issues

[summer flower]

Wasn't copium like "crit is bad, so whole unit is trash"?

[drifting quest]

No

[summer flower]

Ehh?

That's what I remember

[drifting quest]

Yvonne has fundamental kit issues, was patched up a bit my gilb, a bit more by tt

[warped sorrel]

wait

[summer flower]

Dude

[drifting quest]

Plus smoother rots, gameplay tech, sig, etc

[warped sorrel]

yv crit isnt real?

[summer flower]

Gilb was before yvonne

[tight haven]

yvonne had three issues:

• longer timelines vs LR
• lack of aoe
• lack of cryo app

[edgy crater]

basically on life support

[leaden tartan]

She has crit damage... the reason crit is bad is lack of crit damage. So crit is not bad on yvonne.

[summer flower]

What do you mean patched out

[drifting quest]

^^

[tight haven]

tangtang fixes the latter two and like

kinda

fixes the first

[smoky quarry]

wheelchaired, but strong

[summer flower]

Go maybe think again

[drifting quest]

The doomed 800-1000sp timelines

[summer flower]

How do you have something patched out

When that element was before other?

[smoky quarry]

[drifting quest]

What

[edgy crater]

p5 yvonne

[drifting quest]

Who said anything about patched out

[summer flower]

You did

Just now

[drifting quest]

Where

[summer flower]

This

[drifting quest]

I said patched up

Not patched out

[summer flower]

Yea, gilb was before hand

[glass wind]

[summer flower]

Dude

By that logic, tang tang got patched up with Xaihi

[drifting quest]

You're misconstruing 'patched up' as in fixed, with 'patched out' as in a gameplay bugfix

[glass wind]

Different meaning

[summer flower]

Yea I know fixed with operators without patching game

But how the fuck you mean it got done it by operator that was known beforehand

[leaden tartan]

The only danger Yvonne is in has nothing to do with crit or numbers and everything to do with playing the dumb ult minigame. Eventually people will just not want to be bothered.

[neon geode]

why there still no tangtang for lr team in the doc

[drifting quest]

They dropped at the same time

Laev banner

[tight haven]

gilb is a limited op, is the point

you can always get xaihi

[edgy crater]

just scroll down on the sheet

[summer flower]

Rate up was after gilb for yvonne

[unique jungle]

Shes already in the doc no?

[neon geode]

ah f okay

[glass wind]

Xaihi should always be with Yvonne

[drifting quest]

Most people early on might have only had yvonne, no gilb

[unique jungle]

Shes t0 now

[tight haven]

if you bagged yvonne without gilb before we knew about tangtang then uhh

[unique jungle]

With tt

[drifting quest]

If they lost on laev banner

[glass wind]

I heard Tangtang is the one whos replacing Gilb in the comp

[drifting quest]

You always drop alesh for yv, can optionally drop gilb for perlica

Preference / skill dependent

Perlica is skill issue safer

[leaden tartan]

Also investment dependent.

[drifting quest]

Sort of

[neon geode]

for all other cases below p4. Needs artificed ult gain for stability(covering P1 SP refund and LR P5 refund)

Does that mean I need LR P5 or does that mean I need to artifice more if I dont have that

i assume that later

and what is 3c6s

[tight haven]

you need more ult gain if you have p1 and even more if you have p5

[tight haven]

3 combo 6 battle skill

[drifting quest]

60/patch was the hard minimum
80/patch seems 'fine' but 100-120 would have been ideal

[smoky quarry]

100? dream harder lmfao

[drifting quest]

Alas

I dont see much issue with 80 tbf

2 units every 3 patches

[next helm]

Is there a best alluvium comp

[drifting quest]

Turrets

[smoky quarry]

And some free legendaries if you lose 50/50

actually I could argue that losing 50/50 in endfield isn't bad if you aren't in pull debt

[next helm]

Best turrets to use, best characters type deal

[smoky quarry]

cause for 40 more pulls you get twice the legs

[sturdy hill]

uhh

[next helm]

All this theorycrafting for 3 bosses

[drifting quest]

Winning is better but losing isnt as bad as other gacha

[sturdy hill]

is 16k+ shield after 1 ember ult is too much

my ember currently have 25421 hp

[smoky quarry]

Potential is appreciated too, endpoint tokens even moreso

[smoky quarry]

something aoe and overworldly

means something that doesn't needs hands or brain activity to run

[next helm]

Most content in the game so far has been few enemies few elites type deal

[signal sundial]

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Ifrit lane my beloved

[next helm]

I feel like most theorycrafting has been on a stygian onslaught/deadly assault type deal

While we don't have anything but a few bosses you do once for a trim medal

[drifting quest]

Umbral monument is like

Way too easy to consider as a main content piece for tc

Trims arent much worse but harder at least

[next helm]

Okay true

But tc for a what if scenario, but not the other scenario where umbral gets mega buffed in a few patches when most people get to the same playingfield?

[sturdy hill]

do we have anything that deals more than 5k dmg

the enemies

[summer flower]

Plenty of stuff

[cinder oxide]

So just for fun I determined that the price of elastic goods on any given day is indeed a normal distribution. Once I have a dataset for Fri-Sun trade days I can determine just how likely it is to get a certain price for any good.

[chilly bolt]

marble i guess

[summer flower]

Rhogodan nuke

Without defense it's one shot

[chilly bolt]

bro sent an excel file instead of google sheet

[sturdy hill]

so i can test my ember hp

[summer flower]

Old school

[sturdy hill]

i calced her hp+shields

[cinder oxide]

I'm on pc and excel is what I use for datasets in general

[sturdy hill]

it gave me over 41k+ with hp and shield combined

[drifting quest]

I mean most rot assumptions are 0 energy anyway

Just for bosses not umbral

[cinder oxide]

Also I have a graph in there and no idea if it ports to sheets

[sturdy hill]

assuming i used her ult before

[unreal light]

perchance google sheet instead of excel?

[summer flower]

But we have energy now

No more soups before rhogodan

[sturdy hill]

excel is still used in somewhere else

[cinder oxide]

Idk if the graph and equations will port but sure lemme try

[cinder oxide]

Legit all of the corporate world?

[sturdy hill]

in ak

(yes really)

[unreal light]

after some user here said that one might be hacked through downloading fake excel file, I stopped downloading them aswell

https://giphy.com/gifs/gacha-endministrator-endmin-UQmzO3R2jBWIQnOYlj

[sturdy hill]

in tournaments and uhh training for tournaments

i think u guys wont know that

[sturdy hill]

kind of just true

when we can have a shield hp indicator

[summer flower]

Macros being used for that

[sturdy hill]

oh and uhmm

[summer flower]

I think nowadays it's asking about those

But still ...

Anyways, you wanna hear horror?

[sturdy hill]

its possible to build a fucking cpu on excel

[summer flower]

Pdf files aren't safe

[drifting quest]

No file type is safe

Some are less safe

[unreal light]

it's in his story

[cinder oxide]

Mb wrong one

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR33EOmjdKLxPKFxPFTI0tdJr7oIek73Rr0T6OHHrEfVYCs0EVsDMoowd4dy_6OgKp6Wi-R16IY6et8/pubhtml

Here we go. Elastic goods are a normal distribution.

[next helm]

From what ive seen here tangtang seems to be like a 7-13~% dps increase for the teams that she is relevant in, but in a spiral abyss like setting I think she is way more valuable

[echo cove]

thoughts? lmfao

[unreal light]

if it works, it works

[echo cove]

was slappin that for overworld use