theorycrafting

[smoky quarry]

Just use team that utilises better element

[warped sorrel]

as long as there is no dps ttimer check
you can release 99999% fire resist with no problem with me

[smoky quarry]

The only team you can't make now is nature dps

[compact bridge]

A nature corrosion also doesnt exist rn

[icy remnant]

In AK there was no such thing as element and they had huge physical defense as well

You just brought resist down operators

[graceful plume]

Highest I’ve gotten was like 113k😂

[rare zodiac]

surely nature dps can abuse high AI Corro

[warped sorrel]

we can use like 12 operator in arknighs

[icy remnant]

Which in this game is Corrosion I guess

[warped sorrel]

if they still do that Hybrid team would be so op

[icy remnant]

They could

Nothing stopping them

[warped sorrel]

casual

casual is what stopping them from going all in

[icy remnant]

Need some contingency contracts

[warped sorrel]

imagine a boss that change it elemental resistent all the time

[icy remnant]

I find it weird they just don’t have any nature dps

[warped sorrel]

hope they do something like that

[rare zodiac]

corro have potential but having to reapplied corro every 15s is kinda a pain in the ass

[compact bridge]

So far 3 out of 3 dps is eating the element stack, so its likely the next dps also eat the element

Fangyi probably will apply force corrosion

Either that or force electrification lol

[icy remnant]

We’re still in the surface level team building phase

Every team is hyper carry

[inland quarry]

Forced reactions are all 1 stack rn

[icy remnant]

Yea all the reactions are weak sauce rn

[rare zodiac]

yeah there will be more niche/weird char eventually

[warped sorrel]

i love niche character

[inland quarry]

I think the issue is more so that our dps chars consume inflictions rn, and every infliction other than physical is slow to stack

Phys infliction is fast to get and so phys teams spend them on breach

[smoky quarry]

arts intensity should eventually show itself from a good inside

[inland quarry]

If we got fast arts inflictions, consuming them for corrosion would make sense

[rare zodiac]

we just need more wulf pro max

[inland quarry]

Arts intensity is already good for phys teams lol

It boosts phys reactions too

[smoky quarry]

SP regen lowk sucks, the tempo drops dramatically if your team isn't perfectly optimized

[inland quarry]

I could see a future char that builds nature inflictions being a strong support

[icy remnant]

SP regen is a key part of team building

I can see why a casual will want it faster but the entire point is to build around the constraint

[compact bridge]

Nah, the real issue is we dont have chen alter yet to generate arts stack for us

[smoky quarry]

I thought it was all about synergies and teamplay

/ir

[icy remnant]

Which includes SP consumption!

[rare zodiac]

sp consumption is also counted for synergy, like you can't make a team that eat 1000sp in 15s

[compact bridge]

Corrosion is a backloaded reaction tho, and it is very strict to maintain

[icy remnant]

Units that can do stuff without consuming SP are valued a lot higher

[rare zodiac]

you need some that use sp and some can combo/ult on that

[icy remnant]

Yea you can’t just build an entire team that wants to only use their skills

[smoky quarry]

You could raise the bar, up the tempo and make it more interesting, while simultenously allowing more freedom in rotation

[icy remnant]

They started off the game with Endmin Chen and Perlica

Very obvious what’s the direction

[smoky quarry]

if only some combos weren't 20-25 seconds

or have ass trigger condition

[compact bridge]

Yeah, physical should thank chen a lot

[icy remnant]

Chen hard carry

[rare zodiac]

chen is carry phys on her back rn

[icy remnant]

Endmin+ Chen is so fun

[compact bridge]

If physical get wulfgard instead of chen

[rare zodiac]

without chen phys is kinda homeless

[compact bridge]

And laeva get chen instead of wulfgard

[smoky quarry]

like akekuri who wants stagger

[icy remnant]

Akekuri is one of the good ones

You proc her combo right during damage windows

[compact bridge]

Mostly thanks to no more option lol

[icy remnant]

And it comes up so often you pretty much have it the whole fight

[compact bridge]

We all know who the first to leave the team when future char released

[icy remnant]

Depends on which team lol

But for now she’s good as a Vanguard with a pretty good combo skill

Can see the thermite cutter buff permanently on

[golden rapids]

skill and ultimate lvl 9?

[compact bridge]

Whichever team akekuri in tbh

[rare zodiac]

Totally depends on HG tho, if they released a better heat caster Wulf can be the one who go

[icy remnant]

If she gets power crept she already did her job
Mine is lvl60 and performs well

[edgy crater]

ulti to m3 then bs to m3 as well

[compact bridge]

If only she is myrtle reconvene

[icy remnant]

A 6 star limited vanguard would be nice to see

[golden rapids]

rest useless?

[rare zodiac]

Yeah pls give me 200sp to cook

[icy remnant]

Pog is so strong but he’s physical so no sharing

[compact bridge]

We already have one

[icy remnant]

Limited

[rare zodiac]

Limited

[compact bridge]

Its mi fu

[icy remnant]

lol

[rare zodiac]

[icy remnant]

[compact bridge]

Surely mi fu is limited

[edgy crater]

near useless, only useful like m3 cs for -1s cd iirc but not needed

[icy remnant]

What character is that

Yvonne?

[edgy crater]

dats xaihi

[icy remnant]

Oo

Wait Xaihi BS to m3

Am I missing smth

[inland quarry]

I believe ult m3>bs m3?

[icy remnant]

Oh 2% amp on m3

Bruh

It’s so expensive

[inland quarry]

Yup

[summer flicker]

2% is 2%

[frozen stream]

in what case for yvonne should i swap 2nd mi security kit for the lynx kit?

[drifting berry]

always has far as I'm concern

Like in average Lynx slab will result in more damage tho if you are concern about consistency you can still use 2nd crit kit.

If anything, the only requirement would be to have a nearly or max out essence and having some artificing done with your gear, since Lynx slab scales out of that

[frozen stream]

i maxed out one of the kit on the left one, the right one is with the 2nd kit (without artificing) swapped with lynx kit (also not artificed)

do the stats in this screen even matter?

my essneces are 6 7 2 atm

[drifting berry]

Seems about right? Mine has around 4300 atk with 9/9/6 Wedge (don't remember the number to be honest).

Tho in your case I would stick to double security Kit

You can use Slab once you max out your Yvonne essence

[frozen stream]

so ill keep the artificing at 0 for the 2nd kit for now ig?

[drifting berry]

Yeah, no need to artefice the 2nd one

Just save it for Lynx slab

[frozen stream]

do i artifice BA bonus on the glove on itself? theres no ba bonus non set from what i see here...

[edgy crater]

2% amp like 40k+ in number

[drifting berry]

I always artifice the the stat that matches the operator main stat, in this case INT, and the 3rd stat.

[rose lantern]

I'm looking for the best armor piece to equip on Last Rite with the new pieces available. So, I'm wondering which is better: Swordmancer Light Armor or Aethertech Plating?

[drifting berry]

The only stats I would not recommend arteficing on Yvonne are the Agi because of low returns, and Will from the Lynx Slab.

[rare zodiac]

i just artifice every thing because it look nicer

[frozen stream]

what i meant that, for the kits i was using the non-set pieces because they had good match with the upgrades, but for the gloves there arent any good match for the intellect or BA skill so should i just resort to standard matches?

[summer flicker]

yes

[drifting berry]

I don't remember is there is a good match for the glove, you need to check, if there isn't any then you have to do standard match.

There's probably a chart somewhere but I got no idea where

[frozen stream]

from what im seeing rn, only the armor has a good match for the intellect cause of the 115 intellect non set armor, but none for the ba bonus,
the glove has neither ba bonus good match nor intellect,
the kits on the other hand, have good match for both intellect and crit

[fresh trench]

I will eeep now,but this is my ardelia i try to solo with she can do 2:40 oh rhodan solo,if anyone have any better set or theory please tell me

[outer ermine]

[daring dove]

Now just lose 1 more 50/50 an she's maxed.

[fresh trench]

I tried..m

But my luck for 6 is not even good

I will try again once i get her p5 or another oblivion

[daring dove]

P5 is really good on her to be honest, that extra corrison time is pretty nice.

[fresh trench]

1-2 more for basic combo is huge

And i heard it count as level 2 corrosion(there is different level of each art infliction and level 2 reduce the defense for i believed 16% than usual 12 i belived but 2 second less cd is huge enough

Problem is i dont think i can improve her time in anyway i dont think critical crit build work on her and i dont think she can skip frame in any sequence

[soft tendon]

has anyone done calcs on lae w ult gain slab instead of hot work glove

[warped sorrel]

i only heard it good with laevatain with potential

or just love normal atk with no skill press

[soft tendon]

i mean these two builds on a p4+ lae

[rare zodiac]

you don't get enough energy to slab

[soft tendon]

isnt the breakpoint 76.5?

for p4 lae

[rare zodiac]

because of the dread sp refund on p1

[soft tendon]

ah

[rare zodiac]

kill sp refund pls

[soft tendon]

sp return such a fucked mechanic

[rare zodiac]

can i reject the refund pls

[warped sorrel]

why sp refund is bad

[rare zodiac]

if you use slab your regular combo regen 253 energy

[rare zodiac]

no ult gain if refund

[warped sorrel]

yea i have no idea how ult gain work

[warped sorrel]

is it matter?

[rare zodiac]

you know? Iana once said if endmin doesn't have that 50sp refund the entire team dps actually increased by 5%

[coarse ocean]

its not "bad" its just kind of weird?
a lot of rotations don't need the returned SP so you end up getting less ult energy than you normally would

[warped sorrel]

wait

no its bad

why does it work like that lmao

is sp refund iand normal sp taking the same sp bar

[rare zodiac]

how do you feel when you see this?

[warped sorrel]

and spending it the refund one go first right?

[warped sorrel]

suck
but never had this problem

[coarse ocean]

you get to do more skills so like if you need to apply some infliction for dps its mostly fine, and if you aren't speedrunning or minmaxing your rotations it generally doesnt matter too much

[frozen stream]

do i need to worry about gear artificing on tangtang gilberta or xaihi before maxing out yvonne or should i max out yvonne first?

[rare zodiac]

having to use more skill just because sp refund is cancer tbh

[coarse ocean]

yea it is with proper rotations
if you're just playing by ear its generally a nice thing to have

[rare zodiac]

like i need 300sp to get ult, now because 20sp refund, i need 380 to get ult

that is just pure cancer

because sp refund, ult gain Lae can't use slab, unless some savior with striker UGE ++ talent appears

[rose lantern]

I'm looking for the best armor piece to equip on Last Rite with the new pieces available. So, I'm wondering which is better: Swordmancer Light Armor or Aethertech Plating?

[warped sorrel]

imagine a new chracter that give 1000sp return

and you can no longer gain ult energy

[manic blade]

Have any laev teams builds switched around since update

[timber harness]

Its bad game design

[coarse ocean]

agree

[warped sorrel]

new operator who can convert refund sp into normal sp

[jagged stump]

this should be a total of atk% buff in battle right?

[chilly bolt]

I still like frontier chest more, big ult dmg to kill everything in 1 ult

But i can see the swordmancer chest can come in handy for umbral

As for aethertech, it's a bit niche but is not bad either

[rose lantern]

plus this chest has perfect stats for Last Rite

[rose lantern]

i think it can be the best in a Last Rite main dps team and if we play it ourself but if i'm playing tang tang i don't know if it's really worth

[chilly bolt]

Yes aethertech is especially nice when the boss gets staggered for free like marble or ruan

But as you get to the lategame you will be dealing too much dmg that aethertech chest wont even have the chance to be useful as bosses just die too fast

[rose lantern]

hmm i think the best option will be the swordmancer chest because of perfect stats but we need to calculate energy regen with the rotation of the team

[chilly bolt]

How much ult gain does it give again

[rose lantern]

idk at max lvl but without upgrading it's 12,3%

it's 16% lvl max

[chilly bolt]

Lemme do some quick maths

Oh so with +16% ult gain you can actually get lr ult every other rotation

3 skill + 2 combo -> ult

[rose lantern]

2 combo with 3 stacks

[chilly bolt]

Yes

With 4 stack combo it's still the same

[rose lantern]

yes but not worth

[chilly bolt]

I mean yeah you gotta need a lot more ult gain if you want ult every rotation but at that point your ult is gonna be so shit

[rose lantern]

yeah i was also calculating but even with p4 it's hard to reach it

[chilly bolt]

Oh i think with p4 you dont need ult gain

What's the ultimate cost at p4 again

205?

[rose lantern]

201 i think

[daring dove]

Half built Tangtang already passed 6.2k ATK.

[chilly bolt]

204

[honest hill]

Mine is like 6.6 I think

[daring dove]

Using slab I guess?

[honest hill]

yeah

cuz idk if it's better than mi kit

[rose lantern]

so i think the rotation would be: skill xaihi -> skill last rite -> skill last rite -> combo xaihi -> combo last rite -> skill xaihi -> skill last rite -> skill tang tang -> combo xaihi -> combo last rite then ult all

[honest hill]

slab is just easier to artifice anyways

[chilly bolt]

It's better if you want tang main dps i heard so

[honest hill]

where is mi kit used

[chilly bolt]

Never

[honest hill]

really?

[chilly bolt]

It's either the double bone kits or slab

[daring dove]

Yeah it's more a main DPS thing, if she's a sub DPS you just want skill damage bonus.

[honest hill]

was watching a vid of someone use it told them slab was better but they said mi kit better

[chilly bolt]

It's mi hands

Or there's also a mi kit build?

[honest hill]

not hands

3pc bone + mi kit

[chilly bolt]

Hmm i never seen that one actually

[honest hill]

they said cn/jp said it was worse idk

[daring dove]

Slab is better if you're controlling Tangtang. As you end up with more damage across her general kit.

[honest hill]

the slab

[honest hill]

What about sub

[daring dove]

Then just stack skill damage bonus, as that's 95% of her damage anyway.

[chilly bolt]

With tang you have at least 2 different rotations i think

[honest hill]

I saw mi kit for sub dps?

hmm

[chilly bolt]

First one is early ult, second one is late ult, im not sure which is more optimal, personally i do the former rot for speedrun

[honest hill]

too much effort

[daring dove]

To be fair though the differences are going to be quite minor either way.

[honest hill]

yeah

slab is doing fine for me so far

if i go double bone I gotta switch my glove and kit

too much

[daring dove]

Slab mainly wins when you're doing her ATK string an to be honest having fully crowned Tangtang I can see why.

Her main ATK string hits like a truck.

[inland quarry]

"Half built" m3 all skills

[daring dove]

I mean with artificing.

I need to do a ton of work still.

I reckon fully built Tangtang with slab will be about 7k ATK, an maybe 6.4k without.

[honest hill]

do u think it be fine if I replace slab w mi kit

if I play sub dps

not the glove

the kit

[glass birch]

12 days to rossi; who's excited?

[smoky quarry]

Is there any point in swapping out bonekrusha set for slabs on avywenna?

[honest hill]

[tiny crag]

Is Rossi replacing Tangtang?

[bronze plume]

no one probably

[bronze plume]

in what

Rossi is the next limited banner if thats what you mean

[tiny crag]

As a banner?

OK

I guess I gotta get Soupreme Chief within 12 days then

[bronze plume]

yeah thats

[smoky quarry]

people already spent pulls on t^2

[bronze plume]

how it works

[daring dove]

I mean if you aren't artificing a ton & have her P1, I'd just recommend this setup. Especially if you aren't maxing her essence / talents straight away. I think as discussed before slab is kind of the high investment choice & mainly for DPS Tangtang.

[bronze plume]

well yeah people who want tangtang would spend pulls on tangtang

[daring dove]

To be honest though DPS Tangtang is really good I geniuely do think on the balance of things.

[jolly gate]

Hello! Quick question - Xaihi can apply arts burst in a Last Rite + Tangtang team, right? So Detonation Unit would be optimal in this case?

[daring dove]

DPS Tangtang is better than DPS Yvonne / LR.

[bronze plume]

imagine if dps tangtang is better then rossi

[twilit quail]

even p4 tangtang rn doesnt get to use a slab for any actual rotation

last rite tt is pretty ironed out at this point but yvonne tt is weird

because yvonne can actually fit a dive

[honest hill]

I saw this build

[twilit quail]

during her ult

so the rotation is still funny

and we still dont know what gear is best

but it might actually just end up being xiranite in almost all cases for yvonne

[chilly bolt]

Correct, however chiv is very close to deto unit too, so it's just depending on if you need a little bit more burst dmg or better uptime on the buff

[jolly gate]

Gotcha, thanks!

[daring dove]

It's just less overall DMG% than doing it my way but you get more generalised damage %. So your ult hits a bit harder but your skill hits weaker.

But since you get more of your damage from skill

Best to just maxmise skill DMG%.

But the differences here are quite minor either way to be honest.

[twilit quail]

it's really funny cause the current situation is

yvonne is kind of being bodied again

[honest hill]

which is better

yeah

thing is

for catalysts

[twilit quail]

3 limited team is not really as good as lr(standard) tt

[honest hill]

I should switch the kit only

[chilly bolt]

Lr tt xaihi is actually already 90% of the team

[daring dove]

My way is better since you end up with a larger DMG% bonus on your skill once fully artificed. An your ult damage isn't really important anyway. At least from a sub DPS prospective. The overall more generalized damage percentage might win out from a main DPS / controlled sub DPS prospective.

Just pick either though both are fine ultimately just depends how you play Tangtang.

We're likely talking a DMG% difference of like 10%

[honest hill]

[daring dove]

Once fully artificed.

[honest hill]

i kinda wanna use both mdps and sub

the mdps is actually decent

[bronze plume]

guys i figured it out'

[daring dove]

Then go the way you posted.

[bronze plume]

ill just get tangtang and rossi on rossis banner

[honest hill]

the one w the mi kit?

idk what the diff would be

but as u said 10%

[honest hill]

ye all I need to artifice is the kit

switch to it when I use sub dps

[smoky quarry]

I hope I'll like next characters more

And they won't require legendaries that I don't have or can't build

[daring dove]

@indigo pine posted this earlier btw, which will be calc'ed against a ST enemy.

[honest hill]

I see yeah

I'm the light blue

[tough nest]

how significant is changing to swordmancer for LR+TT?

[bronze plume]

im surprised tangtang main is that high

surely

that means rossi will be higher

[daring dove]

Pretty much in my opinion if accurate confirms what I have been saying for a few days. Tangtang is a much better DPS than Yvonne / Last Rite. When you consider she'll absolutely destroy them in AoE DPS & is far more front-loaded.

An doesn't require complex rotations to function.

[smoky quarry]

so tt is 10-15% dps increase?

[bronze plume]

shes less dps but better for aoe, more front loaded and "less complex"

[daring dove]

In what context?

[smoky quarry]

prett vs tt

in context of LR and Yvonne

[bronze plume]

roughly yeah

[smoky quarry]

Imagine if I lose next 50/50 on tangtang who I can't build cause of her dependance on signature

[honest hill]

which is why she felt so much better to play compared to other two

being more frontloaded

[daring dove]

Yeah she's honestly very overtuned in my opinion. Could be argued she's downright power-creep. But I think that's a little bit of a harder statement to make.

[pallid phoenix]

I like this on tt

[daring dove]

But for a sub-DPS she had to right to be this good.

[bronze plume]

i mean

[smoky quarry]

Any p10 will fuck

that's no doubt

[bronze plume]

its not like we really had anything to base of how good she should be

[smoky quarry]

[bronze plume]

first actually new limited

[chilly bolt]

Oh lr team is updated?

[smoky quarry]

I didn't expected iana to update everything so quickly actually, it was rolled out in like two days

[bronze plume]

well not everything is updated

[urban plaza]

it is actually quite a bit different in gearing than Maygis guide

and thus rotation as well

[bronze plume]

iana is waiting for people to do certain calcs to update other parts

[smoky quarry]

Is maygi's guide good?

[honest hill]

very overtuned for dps for sure but sub dps she is perfect

[drifting quest]

pretty good

there's some areas I would nitpick but they're not huge

[urban plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bC8CPNi5X4

[drifting quest]

i keep meaning to ask some stuff but i havent found the time yet

[smoky quarry]

Is there any compilation of his spreadsheets akin to iana?

[drifting quest]

ill ping her later i guess

[chilly bolt]

Rip you're forced to use xiranite set on xaihi now

[drifting quest]

most of her calcs are public

either from her server, streams or videos

[bronze plume]

what do you think would happen if we locked iana and maygi in a room with only endfield on it for a week

[heady pine]

hmmmm

[drifting quest]

nothing changes

[bronze plume]

no food

[urban plaza]

it's a shame that gilberta can't add to the stagger

[drifting quest]

something something prydwen originality

[bronze plume]

dont you work with them

[honest hill]

Wait this is sus

[drifting quest]

no

[honest hill]

Swordmancer armour

[drifting quest]

i wrote some stuff that got passed onto them

[bronze plume]

i thought you did

oh

[drifting quest]

then we found out 1.1 had new gear

and i stopped writing

because duh its gonna change why bother

[bronze plume]

why?

well

[drifting quest]

if i wrote stuff for other units it'd all be wrong

[bronze plume]

isnt that obv tbf

[drifting quest]

wasted effort atp

i could do it now

but i still dont know what prydwen assumptions are

[chilly bolt]

Lr T0 now

[drifting quest]

for their calcs

[chilly bolt]

Crazy

[honest hill]

Why swordmancer armour on LR

[drifting quest]

so i cant really write stuff that wont align with their calcs

[chilly bolt]

Ult gain

[bronze plume]

me when a tierlist

[honest hill]

[chilly bolt]

Without ult gain your short a bit of ult energy to do ult after 2 combo

[twilit quail]

it's there because of the advanced timeline

where we fit everything into tt cc

it's super compressed, faster than the normal one

and requires a bit of hands

but it's way better

[drifting quest]

LR fighting pog for most gear changes atp

she has what 5 or 6 current 'viable' chest pieces

[urban plaza]

pretty much all of them lol

[chilly bolt]

Do you have like a good example video or clip of lr with tt rotation

[urban plaza]

ult dmg, stagger, combo dmg and now ult gain

[urban plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bC8CPNi5X4&t=656s

Maygi has one

[chilly bolt]

Since uh i never feel the need to put ult gain on lr

[urban plaza]

but thats not the ult gain

[twilit quail]

we fit 4 combo > lr ult > 3 combo

into the same 5s window

along with tt full bonecrusher 3 whirl

enhanecd ult

and 2 whirl from ult

everyone gets xaihi talent, ult, det unit

tt weapon

perlica electrify & stanza

[drifting quest]

Yinglung Light Armor
Aethertech Plating
Frontiers Armor
Bonerkusha Poncho
Swordmancer Light Armor
Tide Fall Light Armor

[twilit quail]

and finisher dmg if applicable

[drifting quest]

so 6

[twilit quail]

some of the buffs also spill over to TT bs & cs at start of next cycle

[chilly bolt]

So that requires 2 tt combo beforehand

To get 3 whirlpools skill

[twilit quail]

it's pretty easy lol

open bs cs

[echo cove]

Isn't tidefall armor gone from that list w the release of swordmancer new gear?

[drifting quest]

there's still some stuff with other off pieces

idk how they compare

but it has been an option at one point

which is what the list was

every 'viable' piece that has ever existed

[echo cove]

Fair enuf

It's no longer viable tho on lr since sm chest have same ult gain but with better stats (str main, will 2nd)

Was it ever even a viable replacement for her chest anw?

[chilly bolt]

And after lr ult you do dive attack + 2 tt skills for another combo?

[echo cove]

Int mainstat, str 2nd is kinda bad for lr i don't think anyone knowing this would even consider it

[twilit quail]

first combo is on opener

second is on 2nd stack application with lr bs

[tough nest]

will TT + Gil be added to the spreadsheet for LR?

[twilit quail]

3rd is ult delayed arts burst dmg

when I feel like it

[urban plaza]

the lack of stagger from gilberta is really noticeable vs bosses huh

[drifting quest]

viable yes optimal no

one of the new kits

or something

[twilit quail]

the super sweaty burst is a bit annoying to do but it's actually pretty consistent

[drifting quest]

looked pretty nutty for her

[twilit quail]

cause the enemy is just CCed by LR combo or TT ult 90% of the time in the relevant window

[echo cove]

Where do we draw the line on viable in that case? Any str mainstat works? How abt hotwork

Or any str with will

[drifting quest]

competitive with existing options

[echo cove]

Lynx chest

[drifting quest]

not necessarily better but not hugely worse

[echo cove]

Mm ayt

[drifting quest]

etc

[echo cove]

Would lynx make it to that? It's p mich the same as aether unless u stagger enemy which don't happen alot in endgame

Speakin for max build lr

[chilly bolt]

So what I'm visualising is after lr ult you do dive attack for 1 cryo, tt skill for 2nd cryo and also another tt skill for the 3rd one? Am i missing something

[daring dove]

I'm still running this team just because I can't decide who I like more between Yvonne & Last Rite.

https://giphy.com/gifs/hM9zK1qvsrwek

[smoky quarry]

leviathan team

I'm gonna repost this couple of times in case someone didn't saw it already. Would like to hear opinions on 1.1 economy

[twilit quail]

TT BS > CS
LR dl. BS Xaihi BS
LR FS > TT switch > Perlica + TT CS
Perlica Ult > TT FS Xaihi CS > Perlica Switch
Xaihi BS > buffered CS(projectile flying towards controlled op becomes invisible but will apply later and not override existing)
LR CS is triggered, press it > TT BS applies debuffs(4 stacks before LR CS connect) Xaihi Ult
LR Ult > TT Ult
Delayed arts burst dmg from whirlpools triggers TT CS
Perlica FS > dive after LR is finished > 2 whirl
LR BS > Perlica + xaihi CS > TT switch
LR CS > TT FS > LR Switch

that's the opener

more variations for re opener

[chilly bolt]

Damn ok

[smoky quarry]

iana, wanted to ask, why you didn't included perlica as possible flex buffer/stanza activator in lava team?

Not bad option at all

[twilit quail]

for what

it's not good

xd

[bronze plume]

Perlica... for laevatain?

[smoky quarry]

I mean it does more than ardelia if we are speaking sp-free

[bronze plume]

[twilit quail]

ard is already megabenched

a lot of the time

for wulf antal ake

no reason to ever take perlica here

ard is only for lazy player

[bronze plume]

Hey

[twilit quail]

this has been the case since 1.0

not even 1.0 sorry

beta

[bronze plume]

No ard slander iana >:(

[smoky quarry]

Electrification, stanza effect, and decent damage values

[twilit quail]

this just isnt good idk what to tell you

[pallid phoenix]

best rotation I found when starting without ultimate, can’t get enough for tangtang tho

[smoky quarry]

I don't like ardelia on lava cause I can't fit her BS in my rotation

[twilit quail]

like 10%+ dpsp loss

[bronze plume]

Then use antal

[twilit quail]

and lower dps

[smoky quarry]

I do

Amp + xiranite + stanza, and it works on the whole team, unlike debuffs

That work on a singular enemy and are useless once said enemy dies

[quasi quarry]

is antal better purely because of using less SP?

[daring dove]

It's still low-key crazy to me how little we know about Rossi this close to her release.

[smoky quarry]

I prefer antal cause ardelia is doing nothing on my team, except for activating laeva cs

[twilit quail]

antal has been the logic around which the team has operated for who knows how long

[bronze plume]

Wym we know lots

Shes french she has a brother shes female shes sword shes heat phys

Thats alot totally

[twilit quail]

since last test really

3 stack for 1 bar

[smoky quarry]

Members of the packs are italians 😭

[twilit quail]

dips into the good multiplicative brackets

he's just a really good unit

[smoky quarry]

how do you fumble that

[twilit quail]

nerfed twice btw

sorry

three times

[smoky quarry]

gh really hates people having fun with 4 stars, huh

[bronze plume]

Same thing

[chilly bolt]

Another "4* cant be good" strike from hg

[twilit quail]

he's still a good unit

[smoky quarry]

I don't know who would be more insulted, italians or french

[twilit quail]

akekuri got shot in the head and is also still good

[daring dove]

I just wanna know if she's Laevatain or Tangtang buff

[smoky quarry]

His mark numbers are kind of low, and combo has too long cd, so I'm feeling confused about it

[twilit quail]

akekuri is half the unit she used to be

[bronze plume]

Less that more they dont want 4 stars to be really really good

[smoky quarry]

like 8% damage debuff, are we serious

same thing

[bronze plume]

why would she be either

[urban plaza]

Rossi gonna be her own thing

[smoky quarry]

they nerfed antal and akekuri only to release their 6 star successors later

trust me

[quasi quarry]

doesn't Ardelia do too? cause of art susc, and her sig being arts dmg taken? or is it not good enough

[smoky quarry]

or even alters

[bronze plume]

bro akekuri if she wasnt nerfed would be stupid af

[smoky quarry]

120 ULT POINTS

[twilit quail]

too expensive 0 stacks

[smoky quarry]

Iana, is it me, or ardelia ultimate is kind of useless if you don't need sustain?

[quasi quarry]

I assume her P1 doesn't change this?

[twilit quail]

it's stagger gambling bot

can do 4 or 20 stagger

depending on rng

[bronze plume]

thats a obvious question

[twilit quail]

swordmancer ardelia

was used at one point in speedrun

[daring dove]

I mean Leavatain is a little far fetched. But her an Tangtang could be exceptionally strong together considering you use a use for Tangtang's inflictions & she'll buff Rossi's ult damage. Only question is who the last two slots would be rn.

[twilit quail]

and then we shifted over to uhhh

swordmancer gil sig antal

for that

[bronze plume]

this meant to be some goofy shatter team

[daring dove]

Not really, just a team that uses Tangtang's exceptionally high hassle free DPS. An makes use for her cryo inflictions to enable Rossi. Tangtang is pretty much just an upgraded Wulfguard keep in mind. Especially at my kind of investment.

She's miles better.

[twilit quail]

【终末地最变态的轴出现了！毁灭所有BOSS！ - 明日方舟：终末地】 https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1oHwjzFEtA

funny

[bronze plume]

[daring dove]

I'm calling it now, Tangtang will find herself outside of Cryo teams the first chance she gets.

She's too strong not to.

[smoky quarry]

Maybe, if lizhiyana goes after rossi, I'll be able to luck out on 50/50 tt

Which woudn't matter since I don't have a sig anyway, oops

[bronze plume]

for the low low price of like 15 usd or whatever you can get 1 10 pull on weapon banner each character banner

W

[chilly bolt]

Infinite ult cycle

[bronze plume]

value sky high

[smoky quarry]

or

I can buy 3kg of icecream

[bronze plume]

ok surtr

[smoky quarry]

Do you really think that 3 kilos of ice cream overcomes ONE pull on arsenal?

[bronze plume]

idk what if that 10 pull on arsenal is 10 6 stars

[smoky quarry]

It's more likely to win a lottery

[twilit quail]

10 wnns

[smoky quarry]

and then use lottery money to get signature

[bronze plume]

🥀

[smoky quarry]

i'd still buy icecream though

[twilit quail]

10 former fineries

[bronze plume]

my ember finna do something

[smoky quarry]

Doubt it

FF scales will

while all GS users scale from strength

[bronze plume]

see the joke is i dont have ember

[smoky quarry]

epic ball knowledge

[daring dove]

Picking on best girl

[honest hill]

Wish we had CC or babel

give us that + put marble w 2nd part only and give em 2 healthbars

[daring dove]

Tangtang is such a troglodyte lol, her response to being given a gift.... "Aw, you shouldn't have... Got anymore? How about another one?"

[honest hill]

[inland quarry]

Just threaten her with more doctors

[smoky quarry]

me when I bait my friend into buying bp 😭

[honest hill]

bp worth for chen fr

[smoky quarry]

it was prev one

i'll probably ask him to buy this one too

[honest hill]

nice

[smoky quarry]

[honest hill]

he can P5 BP wep for chen

[smoky quarry]

Idk where he gets money, cause he is unemployed guy who lives with his sister 😭

[honest hill]

there u go

sister

[oak vigil]

A glutinous beast has savored the nectar.

[edgy crater]

gambling

polymarket exist lol

[smoky quarry]

he isn't that stupid

[edgy crater]

rugpull on polymarket

[prisma venture]

endfielders, unite

[reef palm]

Shiba red hair nerfed?

[gritty briar]

nerfed from beta

ult used to do more and was more spammable

[smoky quarry]

used to restore full action point and had 16.6% less ultcost

It's like one additional BS use per rotation, but due to sp economy it was apparently overpowered

[gritty briar]

considering she's still a good operator now post-nerf, i guess it was warranted

[soft tendon]

how much sp do battle skills regen

[indigo pine]

6.5

err, i assume you mean energy

[soft tendon]

oh yes mb

[honest hill]

his sister gives him money

[indigo pine]

if the skill returns SP, it gives proportionally less energy (e.g. last rite returns 30 SP, so it gives the team 6.5 * 0.7 = 4.55 energy)

[gritty briar]

slight thing to point out, the returned sp reduces the energy provided by the skill that consumes the returned sp, not the one that granted the returned sp

so you get your nerfed energy gain on the next cast

[soft tendon]

so lae p1 ebs would give 5.2 + 100 energy total right

[gritty briar]

well whatever skill activated after it would, but yeah

[indigo pine]

yea yea good clarification

which is a weird implementation tbh but it is what it is

you get this like "scuffed sp" back that doesnt "turn into energy" when consumed

[steel trout]

wait

are u THE maygi

from youtube

[bronze plume]

yes

thats maygi

[steel trout]

no way

u lying

[bronze plume]

bro is indeed a person that exists

[modest thorn]

no they're beef not lying

[steel trout]

bruh i swear i just watched the tangtang video

thats insane

i didn't know cc's be in here

[indigo pine]

[bronze plume]

i mean kyo has been here

[indigo pine]

guoba too !

[modest thorn]

do u know who i am

[steel trout]

who is kyo

GUOBA

NO WYA

[steel trout]

....no...

but if ur content is good

ill watch

[modest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-ytpmv-rap-battle-squid-game-squid-game-vs-mrbeast-gif-25491394

[steel trout]

ah.

nah but maygi i feel like

is one of the few

[bronze plume]

bro knows maygi but not kyo

[steel trout]

that actually put effort

[bronze plume]

Maygi your famous

[steel trout]

is it like

kyosyke?

or sometihng

[bronze plume]

KyostinV

[steel trout]

no idea

[marble iris]

So like I've been building a Po and is he like lowkey goated like his Combo Crush hits so hard

[steel trout]

is this a cc for ake?

[bronze plume]

both ak and ef

i actually dont know how much ef content he makes tho

but yeah cc are also just people

its not surprising they exist within the main server of the game they make content for

its just most arent actually talking much

bcause some people like to forget cc are just people too

[steel trout]

i guess similar thing for me

[bronze plume]

even if they are just one of those ccs that ragebait content

[steel trout]

cuz i make music rihgt

and i have friends that some people would say are popular

and when i tell people about them theyre like HOW TFFF

and im like they juts normal ppl ngl

so same thing here

[bronze plume]

i dont see the hype over it tbf

if i see someone famous i like im like

damn thats cool

but some people are like

[steel trout]

i just didn't expect them to be HERE

[bronze plume]

speed i need yo pants my mothers homeless

[bronze plume]

you didnt expect maygi the endfield theorycrafter to be in the official endfield tc channel?

[gritty briar]

well there are at least a few content creators that have their own communities and would probably spend more time there than here

[soft tendon]

just to confirm returned sp is spent "first" right

hence why rotations and whatnot get fucked up by sp return

[smoky quarry]

What would be best set for subdps wulfgard? No set bonus really fits him, hotworks too (Cause without arts reaction wulfgard applies combustion only with ult)

Also most of his potential damage share comes from extended BS, combo and ult aren't really doing much
So, I came to two choices:

Frontiers armor T1 - MI Security Gloves - 2x Redeemer tag T1 (184% bs dmg increase)

Tide Surge Chest - Bonekrusha Wristband/Hotwork Gaunlets - 2x Slab (54% strength increase, 25% heat dmg increase, 16% ult gain)

||Fun fact, attribute wise, bk wristband fits wulfgard better somehow???||

I wonder which one of them will work better

[drifting quest]

dps wulf has always gravitated to BK 3p

should be a bit better with new gear

[steel trout]

no because she probably has her own discord

[steel trout]

precisely

[smoky quarry]

20s cs cooldown makes me question its usefulness here

[drifting quest]

p5 privelege + burst windows

[smoky quarry]

Hmmmm

maybe maybe

[steel trout]

actually

[smoky quarry]

BK set will be

BK Heavy Armor - MI Security Gloves - 2x Bonekrusha mask

[steel trout]

since this is the theorycrafting channel

could i get a little help

with my latest concoction

[smoky quarry]

It might be good since it's also +15% atk for free

I wish I knew how to calculate damage share and make graph pie on it

Cause I have 3 potential sets and it's kind of hard to tell

[bronze plume]

math

youre welcome

[steel trout]

there was two builds i was working on

am i able to send videos in here

[smoky quarry]

you are

[steel trout]

well theyre both for dps arclight

[bronze plume]

you can yes

[smoky quarry]

+15% atk is like +30% main attribute boost

Right?

[steel trout]

so i have a physical based build which revolves around abusing the combo skill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMa0B1s4Ia0

[smoky quarry]

sounds wild

[steel trout]

and its yinglung 3pc

combo skill has 350% multi

on a 3 second cooldown

i figured, why not take advantage of that

so i have perlica to proc electrification so she can consume it constantly

alesh procs off of consuming a reaction, perfect for arclight

and a free cryo infliction

[smoky quarry]

I don't know about arclight's combo, it says 350% damage but feels like 175% somehow

[steel trout]

and akekuri is there as well in case i run out of SP and need to dump

i did it not on a lvl 90 boss because i haven't invested m3 yet

onto arclight

[bronze plume]

her dmg is just low af in general

[steel trout]

but i still wanna demonstrate the rotation

[steel trout]

well thats where the other build comes in

her ultimate multiplier is combined 900%

and even tho she deals physical damage

if they have electrification on them she deals extra electric damage on the skill

and guess what, that new cuprium gear

[smoky quarry]

@bronze plume how would you rate difficulty of calculating damage share formula on scale from 0 to 10?

[steel trout]

gave her the perfect crit set for it

[bronze plume]

idk i dont do it lol

[smoky quarry]

Ig the easiest way for me would be just measuring numbers

The good part about set pieces is they are extremely reusable in case they turn out to be worse

[steel trout]

lmk what u guys think of this

but i need help determining which build would actually be better

the physical dmg combo skill spam

or the ult nuke spam

[smoky quarry]

I just see arclight doing her thing

Not doing damage

I've got something like this when I tried to build her like sub-dps

[steel trout]

thats because mine isn't maxed

but i think it has a lot of potential even on a bk set

twelve questions is a stupid amount of attack stacking

[smoky quarry]

680% dmg multiplier on ult
580% dmg multiplier on bs
280% dmg multiplie on cs

I see two options

One is slab, second is bonekrusha

Also, p5 12q will be better with slab than t0 thermite cutter

[steel trout]

its 900% on ult

[gritty briar]

tbh i have no idea how you would maximize a dps arclight. sounds like an interesting goal though

[smoky quarry]

?

Mastery is 850%

[smoky quarry]

Devs made it outright insufferable by not only diluting her damage between three skills, but also separating her damage into two types

You buff only electro, you lose combo damage, basic attack damage, and first two strikes of bs (bad)
You buff phys, you lose ult and extended bs damage (VERY bad)

So it's really Burger King set or Slab

[glass wind]

Does Lift and and Knockdown gain increase dmg and stagger if they hit an enemy with more Vuln stacks?

[steel trout]

one sec

[gritty briar]

speaking of arclight dps, i think someone here linked a video of one a few weeks ago

wonder if i can find it

[smoky quarry]

BK Poncho T1 - MI security gloves - Bonekrusha mask T2 - Bonekrusha mask T2

Focuses on BS damage

Yinglung Light Armor - Redeemer Hands - Slab - Slab

Focuses on damage from all skills

I think krusha will be better if arc is subdps, and slab if she's main dps

If she's main dps you can swap thermite for q5 12q, it will result in higher personal damage, but loss of damage buff for teammates

[steel trout]

it’s pretty fun

i think based on some calc

the ultimate + battle skill one does more damage

assuming m3 on both

[gritty briar]

oh found it
https://vxb23.tv/BccnHB6

[steel trout]

but it require antal

[drifting quest]

standard wheelchair gaming

[smoky quarry]

Wait a second

BK set on perlica is bullshit or no?

[drifting quest]

too slow to get any real value over time, nor does it benefit short burst windows

[steel trout]

whats the build on this?

for arclight?

bro didn't even clear the boss

[steel trout]

i think the new cuprium gear on mi security is unironically really good

its agility + intellect and also gives ultimate damag bonus

and then u run gilberta, perlica, and antal

[gritty briar]

idk it's not my video
is it not in the video somewhere?

[steel trout]

nope

the antal susc will help and the amp as well

for the ult burst

and gilberta is free susc as well

the rotation will just be focused on spamming ult

[gritty briar]

what?

[edgy crater]

beyblade gaming

[steel trout]

he didn't clear the boss

[gritty briar]

he did

[steel trout]

oh nvm

on discor

dits shorter

[gritty briar]

oh

[steel trout]

lemme click the link

stops at 2:40 on disvord

[gritty briar]

well in the video this is what he shows

[smoky quarry]

I have a funny idea in mind. Has anyone tried building LR on yinglung pieces? Set effect fits her, free attack, can get both ult and combo skill damage

[steel trout]

i dont understand running frontier

and grand vision???

[gritty briar]

tbh i don't either

[edgy crater]

i got lr yinglung cs

[steel trout]

that build can definitely be more optimal i think

[smoky quarry]

And how it is?

[steel trout]

we'll cook it here

[smoky quarry]

Apparently for first and second line

[gritty briar]

well grand vision has attack%

[edgy crater]

funny 1m crit number lmao

[steel trout]

so does 12q

and it has atk% on the passive as well

[smoky quarry]

12q will be much better here

[steel trout]

and secondary attribute which is attack in a way

[smoky quarry]

So it's a good alternative to tide surge?

[gritty briar]

having atk% and 6 star stats helps a lot

[edgy crater]

if u only care on lr cs damage, yeah maybe, else? no fuking way

[smoky quarry]

Frontier set here is really useless

[frozen tide]

yinlung is good for cs oneshots

[gritty briar]

losing 90 base attack is not a small amount

[smoky quarry]

Why not pick two t1 radars?

[frozen tide]

otherwise tide is better

[steel trout]

u get more attack % from the passive

[edgy crater]

the ulti one?

[smoky quarry]

scammy star ratings

[smoky quarry]

yes

[edgy crater]

havent test it

dats my next artificing lol

[gritty briar]

i'm actually not sure if that's enough to beat the 90 base attack from just being a 6 star weapon

i kinda doubt it

[frozen tide]

are you guys comparing 12 questions to gv

[gritty briar]

for dps arclight yes

weird context i know

[smoky quarry]

it beats basic attack of thermite when used with slabs

[gritty olive]

depends on how much atk% is gained

[steel trout]

well its 21% and can stack twice

and also secondary attribute 14%

so yeah

it is better

arclight can easily hit 5K attack

[smoky quarry]

secondary attribute 14% increase equals to 3.5% atk buff

[steel trout]

pre battle

[gritty olive]

base attack in this game is pretty low, sitting to 600 ish

so a 90 base atk loss must be compensated by ~16% atk buff if the 600 base atk doesnt have any atk buffs to start with

like 0atk% + 600 base to -> xatk% + 510 base

[steel trout]

^

[gritty olive]

depends if the first scenario also has attack% injected into the equation

[gritty briar]

well they're both weapons with atk% as a stat so yes

[frozen tide]

the more atk percent the more base atk is valuable

[gritty olive]

how much?

[gritty olive]

not necessarily tho

[steel trout]

39 when maxed on grand visoin

[gritty olive]

oh nvm im dumb move on

[steel trout]

and 31 on 12q

[gritty briar]

grand vision has 39%
12 questions has 31% and 2x stacks of a 21% buff, while also losing 89 base attack

[smoky quarry]

What exactly do you achieve by having arts intensity on gilberta?

I don't get it

[steel trout]

reactions do more damage

[gritty olive]

who is the chara were putting this on?

[gritty briar]

stronger corrosion and slightly more staggers from lift

[steel trout]

bursts do more damage

[gritty briar]

arclight

[steel trout]

and stronger effect on things with that

[frozen tide]

antal stagger rascent arclight

[smoky quarry]

so it's useless for ultbot

[frozen tide]

cooking strat trust

[steel trout]

for ultbot it wont be useful yeah

[gritty olive]

39% vs 73% is pretty huge

[smoky quarry]

rascent? you might be crazy

[steel trout]

other thing too

is that arclight gets arts intensity from this

which is 84% damag +

[smoky quarry]

Yeah, its passive is trash for arc

[gritty briar]

is it even doing anything relevant in this context?

[smoky quarry]

it'll buff combat skill damage

cause electrif

if you apply it from ultimate

[gritty olive]

(411+306)*1.72 = 1233.24
(500+306)*1.39 = 1120.34

[frozen tide]

i wasnt being very serious but second half of third line should work on arc

[gritty olive]

lower base is better due to the extra attaxk%

[frozen tide]

if the enemy is staggered

[steel trout]

arts intensity means her ult does 84% more damage

[smoky quarry]

how so

[gritty briar]

i feel like you misunderstood how arts intensity works

[frozen tide]

are you responding to me?

[twilit quail]

this was revealed to me in a dream

[gritty olive]

arts intensity only buffs reactions

[gritty briar]

it buffs arts reactions and physical statuses (horrible name i know)

[gritty olive]

if somehow the ult did corrosion, it will only affect corrosion but not the ability itself

[steel trout]

one sec

im at work

[smoky quarry]

@twilit quail Question about avywenna gear pick. Why do you prefer aethertech gloves for all skill dmg instead of MI security gloves for BS damage?

[steel trout]

for every point of it

it increase the damage of a reaction/burst by 1%

and it increase the effect by 0.5%

it also says this in game

[smoky quarry]

it won't increase arts damage of the skill itself

[twilit quail]

pulsar was better than mi gloves

and aethertech is better than pulsar

[drifting quest]

aether has better attributes

[twilit quail]

3.5% better than pulsar

idk how much better than bs%

it hasnt been in the discussion for a month

[smoky quarry]

but 18% loss on bs damage? Isn't that stat is the most important one here?

[gritty briar]

yeah her ult itself isn't a reaction/burst, so it's not going to buff that.
Also that's not quite the formula for buffing the effects of reactions

[twilit quail]

it's just how it works out

beacuse of the attributes

[steel trout]

the ult is an electric infliction

followed by electrification

[twilit quail]

[smoky quarry]

😭

[steel trout]

for arclight ye?

[drifting quest]

avy non skill damage isnt nothing, either

[twilit quail]

avy is a m9 unit

the damage spread despite everything

isnt as tilted towards bs as you might think

[smoky quarry]

the ultimate damage has electro aspect

[smoky quarry]

but it's not electric infliction by itself

[honest hill]

How much of it is bs

%

[steel trout]

it is

have u read the kit

[smoky quarry]

the electric infliction is secondary effect

[gritty briar]

it applies them. it isn't one

[steel trout]

wdym

something can apply an infliction and not be an infliction?

[gritty briar]

the infliction and the reaction are just extra status effects it adds

[smoky quarry]

can someone tell mute that we are not schizos and that's not how arts intensity works

[twilit quail]

outside of super specialised 10/13 lance timelines

bs is like

60% maybe

less sometimes

[steel trout]

im just asking about the ult

if the arts intensity doesn't apply to arts, i get that

[frozen tide]

arts intensity effects arts bursts and arts reactions not arts infliction by itself

[twilit quail]

Im not sure how you came tot his conclusion in the first place

[honest hill]

so it's worth M3 the CS for avy

[lofty frigate]

the ult is electric damage that applies an infliction

[smoky quarry]

ARTS INTENSITY WILL BOOST THE DAMAGE OF ELECTRIFICATION ITSELF 😭

Not the ultimate

[steel trout]

i understand that

[steel trout]

whats en example of an ability that is just an infliction

[gritty briar]

nothing

inflictions are status effects that are applied by skills and stuff

the skills themselves are not the infliction/reaction

[frozen tide]

infliction is not a damage type

[dusk isle]

-1s

[honest hill]

like perlica skill tangtang skill gilberta skill

[frozen tide]

infliction is a status

[honest hill]

[steel trout]

so whats the formula for damage of a reaction

[frozen tide]

read through the wiki or dmg document

both have good info

[gritty briar]

they have their own damage values. have to search for them somewhere

[steel trout]

alright word

[honest hill]

I have to wait a month or two for zhuang

[steel trout]

so this just confirm that 12q is better then

no?

[honest hill]

or more

[twilit quail]

dont put shit into electric yet

[gritty briar]

i think it's actually just never written out in the game what their damage values are

[twilit quail]

literally all of them could be kicked from the team

[smoky quarry]

Redeemer chestplate is pretty expensive to artifice, isn't it?

[honest hill]

Yea

[twilit quail]

no more expensive than any other piece

[frozen tide]

redeemer chest is goated tho

[steel trout]

if arclight gains nothing from grand vision passive i think p5 12q beats it out

[honest hill]

but is worth for my xaihi + leva

[smoky quarry]

You can artifice it only with itself

[twilit quail]

yeah and the chance to hit

evens it out

[smoky quarry]

and redeemer is twice more expansive than xiranite gear, plus cuprium is harder to produce

[twilit quail]

because there are only 3 pips

bill and gear parts are completely free

gear costs nothing

[smoky quarry]

it costs you time

you can't have it in unlimited amounts

[quartz horizon]

hi @twilit quail whats your rotation like for LR+TT in needing so many UGE pieces

[honest hill]

Anything does

[gritty briar]

i guess so

[twilit quail]

it's just a very standard 4+4

the gear there also accommodates the 4+3 LR burst

[gaunt mason]

btw iana are you sure glorious memory's batk dmg is higher than sundering's? that's what i thought too but i went over my sheets again and that wasn't the case forgot to add sundering's atk buff when pasting stuff over

[honest hill]

When they mean costs nothing they mean sanity free

[twilit quail]

solo no

needs team buff

and only sometimes

usually 1-2% lower is the norm

[smoky quarry]

🤨

I've heard 8-12% stable increase

[twilit quail]

overall dmg yes

we are talking autos only

[frozen tide]

is there an incentive to 4 4 instead of 3 4? can you even align buffs for first 4 cs

[smoky quarry]

oh, batk

[twilit quail]

overall increase with yinglung goes up to 20%+

[smoky quarry]

then it doesn't matters

[gaunt mason]

yeah with team buffs

[twilit quail]

damage

it's just less stable

full stability would be like

you take gil instead of perlica

and you do 3 ice 3 corro

[smoky quarry]

Subdps perlica is fine to m9?

[frozen tide]

and yeah timeline would be very nice

[honest hill]

Does swordmancer pog + yinglung chen beat ai maxing pog and swordmancer chen?

[frozen tide]

i cant imagine what the rot looks like