theorycrafting

[bronze plume]

tbf sometimes gilbertas sig isnt even a upgrade

thank you stanza

[dreamy cave]

in xaihi's p5.. is the 1.1 increased effect is only applied to the base effect or the combined amp of base amp + amp from intellect?

[warped sorrel]

thry should make stanza playable

[potent hornet]

stanza is just too good, surprised it wasn't a 6 star

[lyric rain]

Leak you will get love latter from dev

[bronze plume]

lots of games have things really good not be max rarity

[drifting berry]

It's a 5* because the passive is to short, if it had more text it would be a 6*

that's how it works

[warped sorrel]

Need a weapon that give me

[feral fractal]

imagine being an exclusive 6 star weapon and you're being outclassed by a basic attack boost

[compact bridge]

You aint p5 every bp weapon tho, plus you need khravenger so arsenal is the only way

[warped sorrel]

Atleast it free

Tbf they should be greedy and make bp chest only give current banner bp

Like only tangtang and rossi

No laeva

[drifting berry]

Why would you need LR signature, also Wedge and Stanza are free, the only issue would be if you need both Laev and TT bp weapons, but at that point you can get the signature for one of them and bp to the other one.

Issue would be not buying the premium bp

[compact bridge]

Yea exactly

[bronze plume]

i mean you just use the crates that give the weapons on the weapons

then the ones for getting the pots on well the pots you need

[compact bridge]

Not everyone buying the premium bp

[drifting berry]

Tho TT doesn't really need dupes, P0 bp weapon is fine and you can get Laev eventually to p5? It will get worse in the future tho

[bronze plume]

do you need the premium for the pots?

i thought both premium and freemium have 1 of each crate

[drifting berry]

you get 1 extra dupe and 1 extra weapon no?

[compact bridge]

Btw how good is 4 stack corrosion?

[warped sorrel]

Wait you get bp from free bp?

[compact bridge]

Compared to like perlica electrification

[chilly bolt]

Cant really compare like that

Corrosion is literally flat res reduction

And it can go negative

[drifting berry]

meh.

Scales the same has electrification but corrosion has a ramp up time. After 10 seconds it reaches the max amount of reduction and it has a 15 seconds duration. I think you can refresh it's duration tho.

[chilly bolt]

So a -24 res means 24% more dmg on 0 res enemy

[proud vector]

Isn’t a -24 res stronger

[compact bridge]

What do you mean ramp up?

[proud vector]

Enemies have resistances right

[bronze plume]

yes but very little

[gritty briar]

I think most enemies have none

[bronze plume]

granted in game we only have a letter scale for it

[proud vector]

0.8x > 1.04x is a 30%

[drifting berry]

When you apply corrosion it starts at 7.2 reduction and within the next 10 second the effect goes up to 24 reduction.

those values are at lvl 4

[proud vector]

But yeah that’s only if the enemy has a bit of resistance already

[chilly bolt]

Not really those elemental res also count i think

[drifting berry]

Once it reaches 24 it remains that way until corrosion expires

[compact bridge]

Wtf why they make it like that

[warped sorrel]

can res in this game go under 0

[compact bridge]

How to refresh the duration?

[dry kindle]

Res is a multiplier so

[dry kindle]

Reapply corro

PS corro is funny

[proud vector]

Apply a corrosion, any level

[gritty briar]

yeah but those aren't that common
like rhodagn has no resistances

[dry kindle]

You can extend a lv4 with a lv1

[drifting berry]

I think you can apply a lvl 1 corrosion to a lvl 4 corrosion and it will extent it's duration

[dry kindle]

Rhodagn is a fraud

[proud vector]

Even a lv1 corrosion will refresh entire duration of lv4 corrosion with no ramp time

[proud vector]

You take that back! He is the most excellent punching dummy

[chilly bolt]

Res is a multiplier, but corrosion is a flat reduction, which means it's more effective than every other debuff in the game

[drifting berry]

Problem is that everyone is killing eveything in 1 rotation

[compact bridge]

Im thinking like doing tangtang dps, and realize gilberta ult can eat all the cryo from tangtang... But it seems meh

[proud vector]

That’s not everyone

That’s just the people who invested hard to max

The average player is doing barely-made-it-to-trim times because teams are not fully invested/optimal

[chilly bolt]

It's not meh, corrosion effect is no joke, but the only issue is it needs 10s to reach max value, and then you only have 5s window before it expires

[edgy crater]

mostly not optimal team

[drifting berry]

Yeah I guess, tho I don't think any average player will care about any corrosion setups, at least for now.

[proud vector]

black lung LR

[edgy crater]

u can find ember surtr player flocking on casual level

[edgy crater]

lr fluorite/snowshine

[proud vector]

eh Flourite I kinda like

[edgy crater]

shes shit

[proud vector]

It’s crap for damage but your rotation goes faster which is fun

[edgy crater]

tang2 exist

[drifting berry]

Fluorite was build for the future corrosion meta

[feral fractal]

y'all think we'll get aether as a new element eventually

[proud vector]

Tang2 is also a 6*

[edgy crater]

but get spite by hg lol

[warped sorrel]

There is no other way right?

tangtang cant eat her ice

[drifting berry]

Issue is that they forgot to make TT signature usable on Fluorite

[proud vector]

and again this is on a “I like Flourite personally because faster rotation is zoom, I know damage is bad”

Also lizard cake
Snek cake the lizard meme ruined me

[gritty briar]

the nature damage on the bp weapon was ragebait for the fluorite players

[drifting berry]

I was sad when I learned Fluorite was a 4*

[compact bridge]

Why they make it ramp up, is it also deal some dot?

[edgy crater]

bp weap give cryo damage

[drifting berry]

Initial damage, at lvl 4 is 400% multiplier. No dot

[warped sorrel]

I was sad when i Fluorite

[soft tendon]

does anyone have chen weapon calcs sheet

[warped sorrel]

It doesn't feel great playing her

Only in combat i think

[chilly bolt]

Ping lappland for it maybe

[compact bridge]

400% on gilberta will probably turn into 40% multiplier lol

[soft tendon]

@ornate mica

im hoping this is the right lappland

[chilly bolt]

@gaunt mason

[soft tendon]

[gritty briar]

you can kinda stack inflictions quickly with fluorite...
...once, and then never again cause her cooldown is long which also hurts her higher-than-usual cost ultimate charge

[gaunt mason]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yQRxspG8WwPv487LlaGVxQK03VFQ44EYCLHBA8Pyq5I/edit?gid=1094366487#gid=1094366487

[compact bridge]

Also gilberta basically has no future on corrosion, since her ult buff is 5s so not even enough to reach the max ramp up time

[drifting berry]

Also which level of corrosion Ardelia has? and Ardelia corrosion still has ramp up time despite have 7sec duration?

[gaunt mason]

1 and yes

[drifting berry]

Ardelia is so ass wtf

[gaunt mason]

😭

[chilly bolt]

Forced reaction is always lvl1 unless something buffs it

[drifting berry]

I love Eyja btw

[gritty briar]

does ardelia usually just eat the corrosion?

[compact bridge]

Alright they need to rework corrosion

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-eyjafjalla-skill1-epic-gif-27230083

[compact bridge]

Call the dev here

[proud vector]

With LR constantly churning through infliction and ultimate flashes you can kinda hold a 30 second rotation on combo skill and ult with 3 LR combo skills

[bronze plume]

hiss

[gaunt mason]

fringe cases where you can have suscep and corrosion up at the same time for screenshot damage

[proud vector]

The reason this is bad is because it desyncs Xaihi and that’s just sad no go

Buuuuut it’s possible!

And fast

Vroom vroom

[drifting berry]

Eyja was my seconds caster 6*, first was Ceobe

[chilly bolt]

Actually you can apply corrosion again to refresh its duration

But it's too much effort

[proud vector]

can you say you’ve truely cyro’d until you infliction faster than LR combo skill cd??

[drifting berry]

Basically, just act like corrosion does not exist

[proud vector]

Corrosion will exist when a character kit revolves around it

[drifting berry]

Corrosion is just a rabbit hole which makes you question what the developers were thinking

Until we get 6* fluorite

[gritty briar]

corrosion is a better reaction than the others on their own though

[compact bridge]

How good the lv 4 corrosion number if i slap perlica art intensity build?

[gritty briar]

anyone use combustion's base mechanics?

[edgy crater]

with standard team, u can get 4 cryo stack lr into ulti within 30s

[fresh trench]

the damage increase and at most at the end of its life is weird cause electrification exist 😭

[drifting berry]

Also if you mess up anything in the rotation corrosion just expires

[proud vector]

Yea this is to turbo boost it all the way down to an ult every 21~ seconds

Vroom vroom

[drifting berry]

Tho the same way Ardelia and perlica have a reaction of 7 seconds, we can get a 6* fluorite that has a longer corrosion duration

[fresh trench]

i waiting for P5 ardelia for longer collosion

[proud vector]

But again it’s bad because it kinda chucks Xaihi out the window a bit and that’s just horrible

But it is very zoom

[edgy crater]

im sure with standard team can go to 13-14s, so like theres no need fluorite at all

[proud vector]

Again I agree, it’s just that you can go faaaasterrrrrr

again I reiterate Flourite is trash for damage, I just like the meme fast rotation

[edgy crater]

also its low chance u go 2nd rot on lr as most just die on cs damage

[proud vector]

Black luuuuung LR

[edgy crater]

ok fair lol

cope weap with cope support

[gritty briar]

anyways are we expecting mifu and fangyi to both be greatsword users?

or was fangyi holding a regular sword?

[fresh trench]

where can i see BA frame for ardelia or any character

[edgy crater]

tianshi possible being greatsword

[drifting berry]

Fangyi we have no idea, for Mifu my only clue is that "official" commisioned art that showed TangTang with hand cannon and Mifu with a great sword

[gritty briar]

i remember the camera being zoomed in a lot so i couldn't tell how big the sword was

[fresh trench]

what is mifu then? new weapon type knuckle?

[edgy crater]

if tianshi use normal sword + being electric, white nova feels viable there lol

[drifting berry]

nah, they ain't adding a new weapon type that soon

[edgy crater]

idc bout dat hag

[fresh trench]

.tangtang2

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1473055467092709655/117134493cfa4506.png?ex=6994d14f&is=69937fcf&hm=1e6a9ff7db5526ea0e479813be9b10d9312711146541ae361088402fdd1131b1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1920&height=1080

[modest thorn]

weaponless 🔥

[fresh trench]

rosi is sword right?

[edgy crater]

mifu literally ur older cousin/aunt dat havent got married yet

[gritty briar]

i kinda just want new weapons for my characters but if they keep making hyper specific sigs then maybe it doesn't matter

well i guess bp weapons have hope for some ops

but i dont really need greatswords so idc

[proud vector]

Is there a sig that isn’t specific

[fresh trench]

should i open permanent banner if i wanted ardelia?

[drifting berry]

Bp weapons seems to be very very slightly more universal. Still wouldn't account of any of them being game changing unless you get their respective limited character

[edgy crater]

im sure u can use forgeborne on ake lol

[bronze plume]

gang shes free

[fresh trench]

I NEED ONE MORE TIME FOR HER TO SOLO RHODAN

[gritty briar]

i just want a real dps weapon for estella...
no new spear user mentioned ever

[atomic kraken]

.tangtang

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1468993592369352764/TangtangLeak.jpg?ex=69860a65&is=6984b8e5&hm=7c816cf47d0101a3ed8ecb738238d99a8305443de743054c599138f96032c517

[atomic kraken]

.tangtang3

[bronze plume]

tbf shes probably one of the easiest to solo rhodan since healing

[atomic kraken]

no tangtang 3?

[fresh trench]

i also try to make her trim medal

[proud vector]

Obj is usable if you do the wacky rotation

[fresh trench]

i know i sound crazy

[proud vector]

It’s pretty bad though lmao

[bronze plume]

sound?

brother you are crazy

forgo sounding it

[fresh trench]

i reduce it to less than 3 minutes now tho

if i have that p5 her combo cd is reduce and extend corrosion meant i can get more damage out

[gritty briar]

the stats are low enough that Jet still beats it
and even jet kinda cope with a near useless passive

and the other 6 star spears are agi...

will/str spear user btw

[proud vector]

sadness

She needs a thermite

I wish there was a spear thermite

Main attribute stat weapon goes hard

[fresh trench]

thats why i asking you if you have any trick for her? anyway to reduce her frame to deal more damage,i try skipping her third attack sequences but it mkae no actual different,i can cancel her attack skill for faster repeat skill usage,but i dont think i can do anything else

[bronze plume]

theres one thing about me i like ardelia, eyjafjalla but like

i couldnt care less about haha funny builds

[fresh trench]

i see i see nvm then

[bronze plume]

i just maxed ardelias essence and skills

[fresh trench]

i will try to get her in permanent banner then and essense max weapon for now

[bronze plume]

ive only got 1 pot

literally the only 2 pots of her ive gotten where free

[bronze plume]

what squiggle language is that

[fresh trench]

ไทย

[bronze plume]

that

doesnt help

[fresh trench]

THAI

[bronze plume]

that helps

[bronze plume]

my real question is how is she not max trust yet

[fresh trench]

i afraid of her

i give gift to her everytime i open gacha

[bronze plume]

how can you be afraid of ardelia

[fresh trench]

she wont appear if i give gift to her in gacha but now i wnaed her

[bronze plume]

the only one to be afraid of is

this bright sheep

[fresh trench]

LOOK AT HER POT4

[bronze plume]

isnt it the same as 99% of other pot 4s?

[fresh trench]

it just sometime i can have like idk last rite,amber pog anyone sound fun but this is fourth time i got ardelia so i afraid of her early on

[bronze plume]

i see

my experience has been

getting everyone besides ember

granted now im missing tt as well

[fresh trench]

i will get back to animation canceling theory and see if i can make it quicker i see one video using critical build on her(but she is with her team) but i believed hot set is the way

what is that diabolical name

@gritty olive i see u

[bronze plume]

im changing my name back to what it was

[mortal bobcat]

Hi guys, new to endfield. Any sites or docs recommended for building?

[bronze plume]

check the pins

[gritty olive]

Im gonna continue simming yvonne later

[pine wadi]

in terms of speedrunning shenanigans does tangtang still replace ardelia in LR teams? ardelia seems to give a bit more susceptibility, especially with p1, unless i'm missing something

[civic wolf]

its probably Tangtang's personal damage

[cinder oxide]

I desire a death most final

It's so damn expensive

[fresh trench]

U can use box

or aic shop

u have plenty of the blue point from duplicate anyway

[cinder oxide]

Brother this is my 3rd team

U think any of those are left

And box from pass only gives 72

[fresh trench]

yes

:3

[scenic radish]

So what's the consensus on the new craftable gear, does Avywenna want any of it or can she use regular bonekrusha still?

Doesn't look like it so far

[oak vigil]

Ardelia just gives more susceptibility, yeah she works better for speedruns
Also Ardelia can provide an extra buff while consuming corrosion from her bs with her signature, while Tangtang due to weapon has no way to buff others

[outer ermine]

better speedrun cuz no ult anim needed

[shrewd saffron]

are there any public spreadsheets with all modifiers, gear, character base stats, and weapons that are accessible?

[final plume]

anyone calculated yet the ROI if you build someone purely for base?

[restive goblet]

is this avywenna new best gloves or no? Im not too sure what "all Skill dmg" entails

[frosty zinc]

it does what it says. increases all skill damg, battle/combo/ult. to confirm equip the item and look at your character stat screen and all 3 skill bonus's should improve by that much

[smoky quarry]

Avywenna's best is battle skill damage

[fresh trench]

all skill including i believed skill damage,combo or E and ultimate damage,it sound good but for anywenna its not good,you focus on her skill damage for spear pull cause she deal most damage with those

[normal tangle]

anything with "skill" in the name
battle skill, combo skill, ultimate skill

basically everything except basic M1

[restive goblet]

but if all skill includes skill dmg then this should be good no? this has her main and secondary stat, and the dmg bonus is higher than what the pulser gloves provides for her. She also doesnt do much basic dmg anyways, so I am not too sure why people don't rate it? All the dmg bonus goes into the same multiplier anyways no?

[smoky quarry]

There'no point in diluting damage buff between skills when you have obvious mvp

Considering that combo bonus is twice bigger

[bronze plume]

if all her skills contributed roughly the same amount of dmg then yes it would be good for her

but majority of her dmg is battle skill so

[signal sundial]

I like how everyone here is just saying muh skill damage when currently one of the suggested bis glove is a mismatched stat glove that gives electric damage

In theory this should be better I think

[livid kindle]

Hi, is the BP weapon good for Gilberta? And how does it compare to her signature weapon?

[drifting quest]

Gilb's BP weapon has a terrible proc conditional so never sees use

[bronze plume]

use stanza

[livid kindle]

[drifting quest]

In the cases you could use BP, you could also consider Detonation unit for a better weapon

[livid kindle]

i see

also should i invest in support unit ?

or it better just invest in another dps for 1 more team ?

[outer ermine]

wait wtf i think i just got the run

and its first attempt on phone

hell no im washed on pc

[signal sundial]

What better gloves are there for avywenna?

[drifting quest]

Avy is on aether gloves now

Light gloves

[signal sundial]

Yea that's what I thought

Blud ran on a while tangent about diluting damage sources when there's no bs gloves that benefits her to begin with

[drifting quest]

Just good attributes

No bskill dam gloves with good attributes

[smoky quarry]

5% increase in atk is worth losing bs damage apparently

blud

[drifting quest]

?

You lose a lot more

[smoky quarry]

.

I'm speaking relative percentage

cause saying 25% does too much honour

[drifting quest]

Its like 40% att%

[smoky quarry]

at this point, we'll get every possible attribute combination in gear by 2.0

why they won't just use "Main attribute +x" for versatile pieces

[drifting quest]

Slab is used in a lot of builds

[smoky quarry]

+x% is its unique effect

I am talking about attributes that gear has on its own

[bronze plume]

are you saying why not just make all gear be

main attribute +
sub attribute +

[smoky quarry]

Also, we need a slab with better attributes and set effect

[drifting quest]

Some units want to stack sec att more than main att

[smoky quarry]

for versatile pieces

[bronze plume]

define versatile

[smoky quarry]

Actually it would be easier if devs reviewed gear and filled the gaps

[drifting quest]

Which is somewhat what they did

[bronze plume]

any gear set or piece can become versatile down the road

[smoky quarry]

Gear that's often used as filler and not as set piece

[drifting quest]

New shill pieces plus old gaps filled

[terse valley]

alright alright whats all this then

[smoky quarry]

like redeemer stuff

[bronze plume]

the reason redeemer kit is and now armour is used so much is because of the ult gain eff

once we get armour that does the same but actually has set bonuses for characters that benefit from it

bye bye redeemer

[signal sundial]

All stat+
All stat+
All attributes+

[bronze plume]

lets just make all armour this

[signal sundial]

[terse valley]

make everyone dps

like a certain other gacha game next door

[bronze plume]

make the set bonuses "blah blah blah increase something by x"

[smoky quarry]

I wonder what kind of armour players would craft if you were allowed to design it by yourself

Like, choose first attribute, second attribute, unique stat and set

[bronze plume]

thats

[signal sundial]

You don't need cc, healing, damage resistance etc if the target is dead

[bronze plume]

a very obvious question

[compact bridge]

Agi, agi again, crit damage

[smoky quarry]

just make it so only whales can afford it

[bronze plume]

for dps it would just be there main stat there sub stat unique stat would be whatever increases there dmg the most and then a set that increases there dmg the most

[smoky quarry]

[bronze plume]

tcs would try different combos for like 2 weeks

[smoky quarry]

that's very broad description

[celest carbon]

yeah it's better than the pulser gloves

[smoky quarry]

why there's debt on atk increase?

[bronze plume]

figure out what the best is then people who always ask what to use will use that

[bronze plume]

because thats literally how every dps would be built

[terse valley]

MAPLE STORY MENTIONED RAAAAGH GET OU OF MY LIFE

[signal sundial]

Crit damage doesn't count into the attack stat

(it's weird Ik but it's a damage increase)

[signal sundial]

✨ star force ✨

[compact bridge]

How much slab give at max artifice? 25% mainstat?

[terse valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/841888624387817492.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[icy remnant]

I hate that slab exists

Will main stat

They did this crap on purpose

[compact bridge]

Thats probably the main reason it can exist tbh

They didnt thought people will use it on dps

[terse valley]

i am sure they did

[icy remnant]

They purposely put it in there for the min maxers

Or I guess max maxxers

We strayed away from the minimum investment part

[signal sundial]

🌈 🔥 rainbow resurrection flames 🌈 🔥

[smoky quarry]

I'ma wait for redeemer slab

[terse valley]

you shall wait forever

[smoky quarry]

If they don't fumble the main stat again

[icy remnant]

Fumble as if they didn’t do it on purpose to not break the game

Agility main stat main stat attribute% kit and we will straight up ignore set effects

[signal sundial]

Is this why leva is mainstat int substat str

We back to w+m1 days

[icy remnant]

Pretty much guarantees we won’t get a will main stat dps as well

Or I guess if they do they can just gut their numbers to balance around the slab

[signal sundial]

Sad bnnuy noises

[glacial jackal]

is fangyi banner next update ?

[icy remnant]

Possibly
Don’t know if first or second banner though

[glacial jackal]

okay

[icy remnant]

Anyways guys here’s my theory on MiFus kit

They designed this Strength Kit very suspiciously to benefit a Strength Combustion applier that also possibly applies heat stacks

Strength for Great swords and datamine suggests Mifu might use a great sword

[smoky quarry]

I thought this is set for wulf

[icy remnant]

Does wulf use arts intensity

I guess

[smoky quarry]

I mean, who else can benefit from these parts?

[icy remnant]

I guess I might be shooting blanks

[icy remnant]

That’s why I theorised Mifu

[smoky quarry]

New teammate for laeva

[icy remnant]

It’ll be interesting if Combustion manages to deal any real damage

[edgy crater]

possible corrosion too

[glacial jackal]

imagine fangyi is nature

[smoky quarry]

She quite literally used arcs of electricity

[edgy crater]

can be nature

[glacial jackal]

[smoky quarry]

the fanservice is gonna be wild with that ult

[vapid flame]

the new liberi feels kinda wind type, which could be nature

[glacial jackal]

is fangyi like a archon for endfield ?

[icy remnant]

It can be both

hyper bloom

Wait no the one without water is aggravate

I forgot about that

[smoky quarry]

where the hell is "meme" flair 😭

[icy remnant]

The keqing mains were so happy when Aggravate was added

[smoky quarry]

is bro for real

[icy remnant]

Most people are super casual I just ignore it

[gritty olive]

no

[glacial jackal]

why not ?

[gritty olive]

#lore-room is better to ask but theres a very high chance shes not a sui feranmut

[edgy crater]

the breacher pog n box cutter chen

[gritty olive]

because she just is a normal terra based "person"

unless its revealed that shes a sui. its more likely shes a lung like chen qianyu rathe than a sui

[glacial jackal]

she feels like zongli tbh(potential game changer)

[smoky quarry]

not a singular vanguard is using thermite cutter here

[icy remnant]

Artificial feranmut

[gritty olive]

its unlikely shes a sui

[smoky quarry]

more like

potential game

[edgy crater]

sui clone?

[gritty olive]

since her horns doesnt necessarily copy nians, and shes not a main 12 of the suis

[icy remnant]

What if we made Fangyi

[neat snow]

Reddit is like the worst place to go for any topic you even have medium knowledge about

[icy remnant]

[edgy crater]

or like reconvener eqv for sui

[gritty olive]

there are twelve proxies

[drifting quest]

Sui's are immune to oripathy afaik

[gritty olive]

and none seem to go with what zhuang fangyi is. we could expect nian being here in endfield

[drifting quest]

So no reconveners

[glacial jackal]

yeah

[gritty olive]

feranmuts can be infected iirc

like the case from the flying spine on ch14

[drifting quest]

Fangyi also mentions her childhood which goes against the conventions we know for sui and reconveners

Iirc

[edgy crater]

reconverner eqv shuo, basically a clone lvl

[drifting quest]

Would be an asspull but sure i guess

[gritty olive]

kinda hate we need to expect "archons" in this game given that arknights never had those big of a title to begin with

other than pre originium races ig or whatever happened for the sarkazes pre RI

[drifting quest]

Its not infected is it

[glacial jackal]

i think they are descendants

[drifting quest]

Its conciousness is just slapped inside

[gritty olive]

but again, zhuang fangyi isnt some sort of archon esque person

[glacial jackal]

she is head

[gritty olive]

shes either a kylin or a lung

[drifting quest]

Because mostima lock and key has a fragment of it

[gritty olive]

kylin being like mifu, lung being like more chen

[drifting quest]

And then what ursulahs watch has one

[gritty olive]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Kylin leizi, potentially mi fu
https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Lung chen, chen the holunggay, chen alter, chen qianyu

[glacial jackal]

yeah

but order can change

[gritty olive]

hm?

[drifting quest]

Like of the 20 or 30 feranmuts we know I dont believe a single one is stated to be infected and plenty are suggested to be immune

[gritty olive]

wdym order can change

[icy remnant]

Nah we probably don’t need to expect “archons”
That’s just the Hoyo mind set being brought over
I doubt Fangyi will stand out much within power creep

[gritty olive]

what do we call wisadel then

[drifting quest]

Year 5 operator

[icy remnant]

I blame Chen alter

For starting all this

[glacial jackal]

you are saying one race was superior right ?

[gritty olive]

not to be unintentionally racist, but yeps

[smoky quarry]

Did someone say "potentially"

[gritty olive]

ive only read two sui events so my information might be limited

[vapid flame]

sui fragments can literally just go through the portal to talos ii no?

[drifting quest]

No the portal has been broken for a while

They would have had to go through it before that

[glacial jackal]

so order might chnage because she came here with her team so here she might be superior as she built this dam

[drifting quest]

We'd also probably know by now if one did

[smoky quarry]

I got some crazy homepage pulls on this character, and I don't even know her 😭

[drifting quest]

Why is the bar red

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-sure-you-sure-about-that-dog-watching-gif-26139783

[gritty olive]

[glacial jackal]

w

[smoky quarry]

are all arknight cc are like that?

I watched ONE lore video

[smoky quarry]

probably pre-watch

youtube does that sometimes

[drifting quest]

Rokettor just steals from bilibili

And reposts

So they post everything thats mildly popular on bilibili

[lament oak]

If i were to turn Chen into MDPS which would be best?

[drifting quest]

Left if you dont need stagger

Right if you do

[gritty olive]

i still dont understand this. just because a lung did stuff doesnt mean theyre automatically "superior" over the suis

[civic wolf]

is Tangtang's basic attack slower than Yvonne's

[lament oak]

Does the current Endmine/Pog/Lifeng build have good stagger build?

Or is it primarily Chen who does that

[glacial jackal]

i mean in this city/wulling only

[gritty olive]

since peeps are using this now, id suggest to turn this to #lore-room since theyre more knowledgeable about arknights lore and im just a lowly sweatytryhard for the team. peace out

[drifting quest]

Depends on boss more than team

Different bosses have different stagger thresholds

Rotation also impacts it

Player skill

Etc etc

[outer ermine]

anyone got davinci or sum that can put timer on vid rq

[drifting quest]

You can also just ignore it and go for either, both clear way beyond the requirement

[smoky quarry]

Bigger damage -> bigger numbers 🐒

easy choice

[civic wolf]

is Tangtang's basic attack slower than Yvonne's

[outer ermine]

oh shuo does lr have new shit? ive been seeing new armor on tide

[smoky quarry]

there's no new tide armor?

[lament oak]

Problem is calculating those numbers duh

[outer ermine]

in tide set

[edgy crater]

there only 1 tide chest

[lament oak]

Anyway ig i can try doing Ult dmg Chen since i am building breach/originium crystal and physical susp for her anyway

[lament oak]

I just need better time saving so that 12s frame lands before suscept goes out

[outer ermine]

tide set and offpiece chest, new chest

ill checklater ig

[edgy crater]

new option?

[smoky quarry]

offpiece chest is called redeemer

be clear with your wording

[edgy crater]

i thought only redeemer glove dat noticeable

[outer ermine]

skill issue tbh

[smoky quarry]

don't bother, I'm here 3/4 of the day

[drifting quest]

Nothing that we didnt already know, afaik

[outer ermine]

oh the ult gain

[drifting quest]

But I have like 0 interest in lr

[outer ermine]

ig its a pivot to more ults cuz of tt

[drifting quest]

Yeah theres small uge amounts req for some tt rots

[outer ermine]

[glacial jackal]

guys do you thing we will go beyond in terms of combat (like shorter time or huge damage in one ult) than what we have right now ?

[rare zodiac]

eventually i guess

[glacial jackal]

as we can see the new boss needs less time than marble

[oak vigil]

New boss is basically Rhodagn but more mobile/with more possibilities to cancel out your party’s moves, so like

[glass wind]

Anyone got the chart for the Breach? I forgot to save it

Actually let me backread

[drifting quest]

Damage formula doc

The reactions one

Has them all

[glass wind]

oh i got it

[drifting berry]

Didn't expect signature to be so similar to Examplar

[outer ermine]

whats max on this

[drifting quest]

Im guessing its like no proc on sundered or something

Idk what other assumptions are getting it up there

Closer than I'd expect for sure

[drifting berry]

She only mention Examplar being a "strong stat stick" also I would expect her to take in consideration Sundered prince because if not it would mean that Sundered is even closer to Kravengger

Tho the extra stagger

idk how you messure that

[drifting quest]

Sundered is what
156 str, 20% cr or so, 16-32% atk%

Exemplar is like
132 str, 40% atk% or so

12% stat att%, 32% external atk%
Vs 40% external atk%

Before we even consider cr

If I remember I'll ask next time I see her

[icy remnant]

I didn’t realise that Khrav is only 10% above the others

Didn’t everyone keep saying don’t bother w Last Rite without Khrav

[edgy crater]

111 str + 31.2% skill

[drifting quest]

Other calcs have bigger gap

I don't know Maygi's rot and assumptions so can't really comment

[drifting berry]

Yeah Sundered +14ATK on passive that doubles if you are the on-fielder after final strike for 8seconds

Examplar is +39% ATK

Tho Sundered has STG main attribute while examplar is just main attribute +132

[icy remnant]

Even sundered is only 13% behind Khrav

[outer ermine]

oh its better then damn

[outer ermine]

goodbye tide gloves

[drifting berry]

Also this is using TT

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

u gonna slap yinglung chest + redeemer isnt?

[dry kindle]

wat

[outer ermine]

hell yeah

[dry kindle]

[edgy crater]

make sense

dats currently what i use on her beisde standard frontier surgetide

[outer ermine]

my shit is so messed up im literally just running sets tt hurry up i need bills

[drifting berry]

Also looking into the video, it seems that TT main dps you use Arts intensity Gilberta to cash out all the cryo infliction into corrosion

But

[icy remnant]

Eventually we will probably have strong elemental reaction teams after we get all the mono element teams out of the way

[drifting berry]

The gap so big if TT is the main dps

[glass wind]

How do you make Arclight hit harder as sub dps?

[icy remnant]

You remove arclight and add another unit

That’s how you hit harder

[edgy crater]

ask dat to clown or hornymonster

[signal palm]

@cinder oxide finally...

[cinder oxide]

THE MILLION

THE MILLION IS REALLLLLLLLLL

[outer ermine]

panda

[edgy crater]

damn 1m wok

[signal palm]

now i can meme on all the people that say panda is trash

[cinder oxide]

U worked on this for weeks

Grats man

[signal palm]

ty

[edgy crater]

oh yeah hifu, i got 606k cs with yinglung set + redeemer glove n dat without p3

[signal palm]

essence still missing one level

[drifting berry]

Da Pan when Endmin eventually gets p3

[outer ermine]

wc to the club

i still havent seen the whels move to yinglung

rng hater mfs would rather ult

[drifting quest]

There's consideration for non AI gilb too, but AI gilb looks promising in hypercarry

[edgy crater]

also testing tide surge set + redeemer glove, its really close to standard frontier chest+surge tide

[signal palm]

rhodagn is mad he got bonked for 1m

trying to jump the panda now

[edgy crater]

higher cs number but slightly lower on ulti number

[odd wren]

Now make endmin and use those excess vuln to kill it on p1

[signal palm]

yes sir, leveling endmin now

i wonder who the next crusher to be released will be

[outer ermine]

theres that red yin kit w ult dmg theres lots of low pots trying to all in more on ult dmg

[drifting berry]

They prob release another 6* crusher dps and it ends up being weaker than endmin unless you pull for their signature

[edgy crater]

oh yeah, chen yinglung build on lr lol

its 148% ulti from get go

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

tho probably better with ange favoring lr ulti more

[dry kindle]

gfl2 tc is pain kill me

i love hidden values

[outer ermine]

yea and theres 3 4, 2 4 rots now that covers both cs and ult

so they could be cooking

[dry kindle]

2 4

[edgy crater]

lr tang2 rot? i saw it 4 ulti 3

[civic wolf]

is Maygi's build actually wrong or nah?
https://preview.redd.it/complete-tangtang-guide-calculations-math-v0-5iq8vf0nejpg1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3b62435703f5228d033e6b0514222cb4c7d39efe

[outer ermine]

yea, eat 3 for gil

doesnt look that tight

[drifting quest]

Standard build

[civic wolf]

just thinking about the gloves and armor which is a differentpiece than the spreadsheet

[outer ermine]

well it is but but its easy

[signal palm]

tang tang sahur?

[drifting quest]

Slab works at p0 for dps

Some rots dont need uge

[edgy crater]

easy for u lol, its swap shenanigans again

[drifting quest]

Mi gloves is a consideration too

[civic wolf]

for comparison anyway

[drifting quest]

Welcome to EF tc

All 3(+) builds are viable

Depends on team, rot, etc

[outer ermine]

with lr lead its a bit easier since shes slow as hell

[edgy crater]

kek fair enough

[outer ermine]

u can prep xai, tt, gil ult on ba4 alone lol

[quaint matrix]

wow,half of my friend list i stocked from patch 1.0 is dead

[outer ermine]

and fs into jump on lr is pretty smooth

[edgy crater]

anyway, time to crit fish 1m cs

[outer ermine]

bully rhod

[edgy crater]

i got 900k before on ruan

[dry kindle]

1.5m when

[edgy crater]

give me p3 lr

im still salty from getting p4 pog

[outer ermine]

jakubs? 5%

u can do it

[dry kindle]

whelllllllllllllllllllllllll

[outer ermine]

wtf whel

[odd wren]

Hi

Im p4 pog too

[edgy crater]

606k? dats without food at all

n gingseng stew should be enough

[odd wren]

I just wanted p3 lifeng

[edgy crater]

gold fish

[odd wren]

It gave me pog

[edgy crater]

yes n now ima playing pysical

bullying marble

[odd wren]

[signal palm]

wtf i just got 3 success in a row on chen armor main stat

[odd wren]

[outer ermine]

oh just 60k more or sum then

[dry kindle]

ok whel

[odd wren]

@signal palm wow you going for yinlung huh

[edgy crater]

gingseng stew should be enough for 700k cs

[outer ermine]

finally hitting 1m territory

[edgy crater]

ironically i whale on yvonne so i can get random *6

[odd wren]

I did this

But for gv

[edgy crater]

its for khrav too

[signal palm]

yes, helps my panda damage, what are some other good options you recommend

[dry kindle]

whel

[edgy crater]

no

[odd wren]

Not much i can say bro i use old gears for chen still want that stagger

And its artificed

No point for me to atm im just saving mats

[edgy crater]

new redeemer make it possible to reach 1m territory

[signal palm]

ah ok

[dry kindle]

whel

[honest hill]

He is a whel

[sour gazelle]

don't know the "standard rotation" being used here but I've seen 2 detailed calcs saying ult gain on just one gear isn't enough if u want ult every cycle

[civic wolf]

heres the rot

how do i read this

[drifting quest]

Left to right

[civic wolf]

whats C and whats E lol

[drifting quest]

Bskill, combo

C is skill, confusingly

Its a translate issue though

Since the site isnt in english natively

Unless they updated that

[dry kindle]

uh

[glass wind]

Whats the buff Icon for Link?

[edgy crater]

swinging sword?

[glass wind]

w8 does Akekuri just buff one Skill/Ultimate? Im still confused

[dry kindle]

yes

[drifting quest]

When you zoom in it clips characters off > translates differently

[tight haven]

swords next to your hp bar

[dry kindle]

mandatory reading

[tight haven]

link is a unique multiplier btw

so its always significant

[glass wind]

Can you explain her P5? Im still confused about that

[rare zodiac]

depend on how much that BS/ult contribute tbh

[dry kindle]

its just funny site formatting ig

[rare zodiac]

link without p5 only have duration from the first flare to last flare, p5 make it exist a bit longer

[glass wind]

Oh so the Flare is like the visual cues for the duration

I thought its just a special effects

[tight haven]

kind of

if you have p5 then the flares arent an accurate visual cue

[rare zodiac]

kinda i guess, each flare is like 80/3 sp

[glass wind]

So I need her to ult before the DPS not before everyone

[tight haven]

ideally yes

[glass wind]

[tight haven]

you save ake's ult until BEFORE a nuke bskill/ult

[glass wind]

Its for Rossi

[rare zodiac]

before the nuke BS/ult to be percise

[tight haven]

then you save it before her ult

ake ult into rossi ult

cskills dont consume link either fwiw

[rare zodiac]

but non dmg BS/ult do consume link so just keep that in mind

[glass wind]

So her Ult dont really work with Dapan combo

[tight haven]

no

[glass wind]

[rare zodiac]

sadly no, only BS/ult

[tight haven]

it wouldnt buff crush anyway

crush is reaction damage not skill damage

[glass wind]

w8 how would they calculate the dmg if its use on Endmin's BS?

[drifting berry]

On LR case would link run out on the first instance of damage of LR ult or it buff all 3 hits?

[tight haven]

it only buffs the hits from the battle skill

[civic wolf]

so is Maygi's gear build for Tangtang the better build with the Ult Gain, or nah not really

[tight haven]

not the crush damage

[civic wolf]

wondering how bricked am i for investing muh artifices

[rare zodiac]

link would only buff the 350% of Endmin BS, not the crush

[civic wolf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086682564849684/1483395755271127140/image.png?ex=69ba6f74&is=69b91df4&hm=19e591f53c29efe1433ad366962b436d276b449a620603f2128dd9ff3099a613&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=140&height=140
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/OxvjoMYcSNICidD62rOIeq4J0jbBY0fAsaCoUZ6cyxk/%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3b62435703f5228d033e6b0514222cb4c7d39efe/https/preview.redd.it/complete-tangtang-guide-calculations-math-v0-5iq8vf0nejpg1.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=864&height=675

[glass wind]

Do they add the numbers tho?

[rare zodiac]

all hit

[drifting berry]

And I would assume Akekuri gives a lvl 1 link buff?

[tight haven]

wdym lvl 1 link buff

[rare zodiac]

can you rephrase that, i do not understand the question

[glass wind]

Other question does the Link buff snapshots? What if the Ult is a charging one like Rossi's?

[tight haven]

it affects all hits that result directly from using an ultimate

it will affect the first hit of pogranichnik's ultimate but not the follow-ups

[rare zodiac]

yes

[drifting berry]

So looking at the formula it says

Link Bonus for Battle Skills: 30/45/60/75%
Link Bonus for Ultimates: 20/30/40/50%

Aren't the different brakets for the levels of Link?

[drifting berry]

Got it, thanks

[tight haven]

all of rossi's hits result from using her ultimate

[tight haven]

oh that, yes

both lifeng and akekuri give 1 stack of link

[dry kindle]

dont ask how we stack it

ever

[glass wind]

The Crush reaction + Endmin's skill that has link.

[dry kindle]

at least until we get a unit that links on final strike cskill

🗣️

[drifting berry]

I hate when anyone mention Lifeng because It reminds me that I need to read the physical section of iana's spreadsheet

[tight haven]

reaction damage is calculated separately from skill damage

[rare zodiac]

only the skill part get buff, crush do not

[drifting berry]

I still got no idea how physical even works

[dry kindle]

actually thats just lifeng technically

💀

[glass wind]

I know but im saying is the numbers thats gonna show in the screen gonna be 2?

[tight haven]

phys is just breach into crush

[drifting berry]

Stack vul and cash out big crush, that's all I know

[tight haven]

over and over again

[rare zodiac]

yeah 1 from skill 1 from crush, if you have crystal, 1 from crystal too

[glass wind]

Oh ok

[drifting quest]

Tangtang moment

[tight haven]

i havent tested link w tangtang

does it affect the splash or nah

[rare zodiac]

the link should not affect sprouts imo, it's summon by an action in ult, not by the ult itself

[tight haven]

yeah but i havent tested

not like its relevant but still

[glass wind]

I got this comp im thinking for Rossi. Im thinking of using Akekuri and Antal to buff her Ultimate.

[dry kindle]

its karma for being a growth chamber op

[warped sorrel]

Tangtang cannot use link?

[unreal light]

she can

[edgy crater]

already reach it

trust in ginseng lol

but shit, i got lr crit bug like 4times

[sour gazelle]

hmm based on this rot that gear is enough ult gain indeed

[civic wolf]

so am i bricked again for following the spreadshee'ts Ultgainless build over Maygi's

[cinder oxide]

Diff jobs

Ultgainless is for most protospace content

Gainful is for Umbral and other no ult start content

[civic wolf]

oh

two builds

in a game

[cinder oxide]

Functionally an ultgainless comp was made to oneshot anyway

[civic wolf]

without build loadout

and dogshit gear UI

[cinder oxide]

You should be killing whatever you need to in one rot

[sour gazelle]

u mean with the MI glove?

[civic wolf]

yes

MI Glove set

[sour gazelle]

I've been looking into it for a bit and seems like ultgainless for best dmg u do lynx slab + bone 3 piece instead

it's better than MI glove

[civic wolf]

rip my artficices ig

[cinder oxide]

Feels like it needs artificing b4 we can see anything

[civic wolf]

might as well finish what i started but man

[cinder oxide]

Cos MI comes with a really strong battle skill% too

Which is better than wristband cryo% boost

[sour gazelle]

and for gear with ult gain, the best I could find is that bone 3 set + lynx using bone heavy armor is 1% better over bone 3 set + yinglung T1 armor in teams, but the latter is better for tangtang carry

[next helm]

What is max TT atk

[sour gazelle]

[green cipher]

Funny how this will only give you few

[next helm]

So is the yinglung version recommended for TT?

As a set and forget type deal

[sour gazelle]

yeah

[glass wind]

Who even uses this gear?

[gritty briar]

wtf

[green cipher]

Inb4 rossi is will int

[gritty briar]

clearly this is meant for dps gilberta builds

[sour gazelle]

rossi
like, no joke

we know she crits

[glass wind]

I cant build a gear till I know her stats

[gritty briar]

she's not gonna be will int

[glass wind]

What was Lava cake's stats? I didnt pull her

[gritty briar]

int str

[jovial grove]

Lava is just like my Poe character fr fr

[chilly bolt]

rossi should be either agi will or agi int

[glass wind]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1467826768949022751/frc03.gif

[remote elk]

ult gain laev we swap to redeemer armor now no? instead of tide surge

[chilly bolt]

hotwork ult gain yes

there's also a hotwork slab build

[sterile patrol]

Yup small upgrade

[edgy crater]

its only noticeable on xaihi

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

ruan?

[outer ermine]

yeah

bro i fuckin logged in during work and said just one buff attempts

and got it

[edgy crater]

oh yeah, i reach 1m already

[outer ermine]

damnnn

ginseng

[edgy crater]

yinglung set stonk lol

[honest hill]

@forest lily does bonekrusha have a limit on how many spears it buffs?

[outer ermine]

bro got destroyed

[wispy shuttle]

does p4 last rite with 1 cycle ult have room/need for tangtang's infliction?

[edgy crater]

this number

[outer ermine]

do u have redeem gloves already

[edgy crater]

yeah

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

i max redeemer glove lol

[forest lily]

no they all are affected, the reason some damage numbers are higher and lower is rhodagn resetting his stagger so you lose the 30% extra dmg

[outer ermine]

is that true crit

[edgy crater]

yap

normal gingseng cs did 680k

[honest hill]

so the inital ones hit then stagger removed then other spears hit doing less

[forest lily]

yes

[honest hill]

that's sad

[forest lily]

this game rounds up 808.2 to 809?

[honest hill]

I hope Zhuang does one hit

instead of multiple

Like a big perli finisher

[forest lily]

simply

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541760801968128/1482051629774671872/03132.gif

[edgy crater]

hope tianshi got lr bug as well

[forest lily]

ive never spoken in this chat before, what actually goes on here

[honest hill]

I swear ur always here

[pliant stump]

For a lv.4 corrosion I would need let us say 4 cryo stacks + 1 nature stack, right?

[honest hill]

oh

[honest hill]

111

[sturdy hill]

how cursed is ember+pog+endmin+ange on the rating from 1 to 10 assuming the whole squad runs absolutely cursed builds

[honest hill]

still

[forest lily]

idek why its that high

[sturdy hill]

its a number

[honest hill]

nvm mine is way higher

[honest hill]

it is

[sturdy hill]

team builder

[honest hill]

[sturdy hill]

i should

[honest hill]

I have more messages here than help and team builder

prob because of the slow mo

[sturdy hill]

declare bankruptcy again for billions of times cus wuling and tcreds keep running out

and sanity

[forest lily]

aw

[honest hill]

u should build chen w the new gear and BP wep P5

ah

[sturdy hill]

cant even do more than 2 artificing per day

[honest hill]

why they make the catalysts so expensive

plus red gear at 16k

[sturdy hill]

60k

[honest hill]

the new one is 3x that

[sturdy hill]

120k + 16k or 8k by 2 times

my income is a little bit more than that

[honest hill]

to buy all catalysts

u need 8.4M

[sturdy hill]

absolute poverty

[honest hill]

yeah...

let alone crafting gear

affording catalysts w just one sub pac is just terrible

I'm currently at 86 catalysts and will get 10 more

I can't afford to craft gear to use em

[chilly bolt]

Your outpost gives 7.2m

You still need 1.2m more lol

[honest hill]

I mean

deliveries give u like 340k a day

I think

[odd wren]

Play physical dont need change that much xd

[sturdy hill]

nearly but its valley

[honest hill]

I would but I am Lifengless

[odd wren]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-chill-guy-just-a-chill-guy-relax-gif-1579445140409713118

[honest hill]

340k by ur own depot node + 3 player ones

[sturdy hill]

when we will have 330k wuling bills per delivery in wuling

[honest hill]

2.3M from deliveries

[honest hill]

I feel like I am broke all the time

[honest hill]

spamming refresh for some wuling bills is peak unemployment 😭

[chilly bolt]

Actually you can skip doing 3 deliveries from others

[honest hill]

I feel the need to help

[chilly bolt]

But why skip free money

[honest hill]

outpost gives 7.2M?

[chilly bolt]

Yes

[honest hill]

isn't it more like 6M?

[chilly bolt]

You forgot +20% from trading

[honest hill]

oh

like stock redistribution

[chilly bolt]

Im not counting the goods selling

The +20% from operator

[honest hill]

I counted

[chilly bolt]

No like, when you trade you get 20% bonus money

[honest hill]

ik

[chilly bolt]

So yes 7.2m

[honest hill]

168hrs in a week x 26880/h is 4515840

then another 20% is

5.4M

[molten star]

Tang tang and lr for me works like this--
First rot when they have both ults, tang tang can pop 3 watersprouts
Second rot(only lr combo) 3 water sprouts too
Third rot(lr combo) only 2 water sprouts
Is that normal?

[edgy crater]

i do dat while working lmao

[barren geyser]

with stanza for phys teams. what do you think 🤔

[honest hill]

ye some peasant does it for u

[chilly bolt]

Can work but without sig your gil will take forever to get ult back

[barren geyser]

yeah but sig doesn't boost phys team dmg

[chilly bolt]

Wait physical

What is gil doing in phys

[edgy crater]

ow stuff

[barren geyser]

aoe grouping and lift

xiranite set probably better anyway but i've heard it doesnt stack and estella already have it

[chilly bolt]

If it's overworld just use hotwork gil lol

[barren geyser]

how can I calc how many skills and combos do i need to charge an ult with x ult gain eff?

[chilly bolt]

You get 6.5 ult energy for every 100 sp used

10 for combo

[honest hill]

okay so outpost is 4.5M then 20% more is 5.4M + deliveries in a week is 2.31M + doing the environmental thing is 840K so 7.66M is everything except stock redistribution @chilly bolt

[chilly bolt]

Is your outpost not maxed

[honest hill]

it's lv 3 yes

but the rate is 26880

[warped sorrel]

is wearing energy set make you produce more or needless

[honest hill]

4.5M is a weeks worth

[chilly bolt]

Huh?

[dry kindle]

before bonuses

[chilly bolt]

It's 36288

[gritty briar]

Are you not counting buffs?

[gritty briar]

You have a 35% boost

[chilly bolt]

The game calcs for you lol

[gritty briar]

and then you also have another 20% when you do the trades

[honest hill]

I only counted 20%

[gritty briar]

so it's actually 1.2x 36k

[dry kindle]

do your fuckin defends

😭

[honest hill]

what if ur not smart enough for that

[oak vigil]

It depends on the equipment item itself, if it has “+ ult gain efficiency%”, then it affects it
iirc some energy equipment does not give you that third pip

[honest hill]

okay wait lemme re math w 35%

oh wait it says 36k

I forgot to scroll up

[gritty briar]

it is a little weird that it scrolls down for you when you click it

what kind of ui defaults to being scrolled to the bottom?

[chilly bolt]

It literally multiplies the ult gain of the wearer, if you have +100% ult gain it means you get twice as much ult energy

[honest hill]

it does ye

[warped sorrel]

so it is the later one

[chilly bolt]

Ult cost can be only reduced by potential i think

[honest hill]

so it's actually 7.31M + the other two it's 10.4M

[drifting quest]

If we're nitpicking 100% uge is baseline
You said +100% so you're right still but some people might not understand its 200% in screen for +100%

[honest hill]

and if u buy catalyst is 8.4M so ur left w 2M + the stuff u get from stock redistribution

[oak vigil]

Also does anyone know if Gilberta’s passive which increases ult gain for the entire team, is it just additive with ultimate gain efficiency stat% of the gear?

[drifting quest]

Its additive

[oak vigil]

Oh okay, thanks

[honest hill]

7% ult gain is good

how much does ake even need in like avy team or leva team

[drifting quest]

Less in avy team

More in laev

[honest hill]

is there some kinda range

for uge in those teams

[drifting quest]

As much as possible is ideal for laev

[honest hill]

but for avy not so much?

Does having 500 int on ake make not much difference

[neat snow]

I don't think it does much..

[drifting berry]

Question, do ults have cooldown or their only requirement is energy?

[drifting quest]

Int stacking is nice because you do nothing else but it doesnt matter much

[drifting quest]

Yes

[drifting berry]

Like looking in the wiki, for some reason combo skills do show their cooldown but ults don't

[drifting quest]

Its arguably useless information

[oak vigil]

^ this

Unless you are for some reason by going for usables for ult and with equipment for ult

EVEN THEN I don’t think you hit the cooldown bar for ult

[drifting berry]

Yeah I saw a random post on reddit about a 3 vanguard + chen team and the post claimed that he was able to spam Akekuri and Arclight ults every 6-8 seconds (idk if he mentioned it for Pog or Chen)

But got me wondering if ults had cooldowns

[drifting quest]

Yeah they all do

[next helm]

Tangtang hyper with perlica vs Yvonne?

[gritty briar]

do you guys ever switch to controller for artificing spam?

like is there a way to do this on mouse and keyboard that's comparable to the controller speed?
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[smoky quarry]

Is there anyone who completed 1.0 etch, but didn't do anything in 1.1 umbral yet?

I'm missing some data

[gritty briar]

There's 1.1 umbral content?