Do you always have a friend to swap clue or it's your alt
#theorycrafting
chilly bolt
cinder oxide
Do you always have a friend to swap clue or it's your alt
Just offer and ppl will swap
lilac bloom
its like
chilly bolt
damn
lilac bloom
500 for 20 right
lilac bloom
500 oroberyls for 20 arsenal tickets
cinder oxide
500 oroberyls for 20 arsenal tickets
Nah its usually 420
I have seen it too often to not rmb
lilac bloom
No one wants clue 7
i didnt understand until this morning when i scrolled all the way to the bottom of my friend's list and saw EVERYONE had a clue 7
genuinely fucking miserable
cinder oxide
I keep getting free clue 7
lilac bloom
who is inflating the clue 7 market
chilly bolt
At this rate i think hg is intentionally make clue 7 more likely to appear
cinder oxide
There are ppl over in the channel with 15+ clue 7
lilac bloom
Nah its usually 420
wdym
wild dust
lilac bloom
i thought you got 20 after a pull
im talking oroberyls
to tickets
not the credit price
chilly bolt
It's cheaper but it's not cheaper
cinder oxide
Yeah 25 vs 20
lilac bloom
cheaper but worse return
chilly bolt
1/20 of a pull
cinder oxide
I mainly use it for the mats though
Imo more worth to pickup the rank up mats
The triangles and the squares
lilac bloom
yea
urban plaza
i buy everything at 50% or higher discount
over time you need all stuff
cinder oxide
But 200 yes pls
Join clue swap and u nvr have to skip again
chilly bolt
That's too much work 
cinder oxide
I almost always go to last refresh
chilly bolt
But yeah maybe i should take a look at it when im desperate
lilac bloom
i feel like im already close to finishing my next team so idk
it could probably be mathed out
cinder oxide
I'd like a resource counting tool
So I know how much I need to lvl a full cryo team
To my exact specifics
chilly bolt
Doesn't endfieldtools have that
lyric rain
warped sorrel
its good for us i guess
honest hill
1 pull a month
lyric rain
since when
16k wuling
honest hill
16k wuling
isn't that normal
undone slate
Hello, what does anyone know what deals more damage on tang tang? 2 Bonekrusha Mask T2 OR 1 Bonekrusha Mask T2 + Redeenmer Tag T1?
honest hill
16k for red gear
lyric rain
Reduce to 8k maybe
honest hill
Hello, what does anyone know what deals more damage on tang tang? 2 Bonekrusha M...
3pc bonekrusha w slab
undone slate
3pc bonekrusha w slab
okay
undone slate
3pc bonekrusha w slab
but what is slab?
honest hill
wait lemme show u
honest hill
but what is slab?
this
gritty briar
how much was it
apparently it costed 18k instead of 16k
so they probably made a typo
chilly bolt
Better with no matching stat is crazy
honest hill
is the main attribute better than no correct state and bonus damage?
yes this build is better
chilly bolt
Slab is just too op
gritty briar
the idea that they manually type in the prices of every individual piece of gear is crazy though
undone slate
yes this build is better
Alright thank you! I will trust the process 🙏
honest hill
Alright thank you! I will trust the process 🙏
just max the main attribute stat
the other ones don't care
fresh trench
after testing i dont think ardelia can animation canceling
undone slate
just max the main attribute stat
okok
honest hill
Does she not require any Ult charge?
Depends
If you want ult charge you would have to switch armour to heavy bonekrusha and put redeemer instead of slab
woeful timber
Redeemer gloves are Op on TangTang though, I’d keep bonekrusha masks x2 and redeemer gloves instead of lynx slab. She has a 700% ult dmg multiple at m3 so the extra ult dmg is pretty good. By using redeemer gloves instead of full bonekrusha t2 I was able to phase skip Rhodagn for the first time
honest hill
@drifting quest how much worse is mi kit compared to slab for tt
drifting quest
depends
uncut kestrel
Do i need to replace any piece on her?
drifting quest
external buffs and rot
honest hill
smoky quarry
so they probably made a typo
unoptimized workflows, lol
craggy grail
smoky quarry
depends
tight haven
@twilit quail have you done calcs for AI kit vs phy dmg kit endmin?
curious why dapan has the AI kits but not endmin in the doc
is it actually less strong purely due to the stat mismatch?
smoky quarry
ardelia will be better in single target, cause susc
perlica will be better in aoe, cause team-wide buff
drifting quest
endmin damage share has ult too
AI only buffs crush
Phys dam buffs both
technically fielding endmin w/ anim cancels, combos, skills has some damage too
which phys dam buffs
tight haven
that was my takeaway too
drifting quest
dapan is basically just mostly crush damage
tight haven
also not getting ANY attribute atk buffs from kits does hurt ig
fringe dirge
What's the multiplier for Yvonne's ultimate assuming every hit lands?
next helm
At least 4
tight haven
laev upscale
love to see it
hilarious that 1 slab laev did end up being mathematically correct because of redeemer chest
warped sorrel
laev upscale
so it is 100 atk better
next helm
P5 moment
tight haven
so it is 100 atk better
more than
tight haven
redeemer chest makes xiran gloves inch just above the ult% threshold with 1 redeemer seal
so you can use slab and just get silly atk
tight haven
yeah that makes sense
twilit quail
almost 10% losses across the board
for actual rotation
in basically all situations
tight haven
getting almost no atk from kits 💔
smoky quarry
is slab gonna be trend in future?
tight haven
slab is already like
the best dps kit if your dps doesnt need ult charge or can get it without needing both kit slots
smoky quarry
More like, the best if no particular set effect fits
tight haven
I think lifeng is on his way out
lmao whats the development there
tight haven
oh p0
tight haven
makes more sense yea
sterile herald
:D
twilit quail
like without p1 and mb
smoky quarry
i got p2 lifeng f2p ✌️
twilit quail
this unit is afk as fuck
tight haven
yeah hes actually such a fucking fraud without p1
twilit quail
and my document is for p0 all 6*
tight haven
rotations get so uncomfortable
twilit quail
so
smoky quarry
yeah hes actually such a fucking fraud without p1
what's his p1 anyway?
twilit quail
and with the new giga dmg chen set
smoky quarry
You'll eventually get some potential on default legs anyway
twilit quail
p0 lifeng is super replaceable
tight haven
lets him apply susc + vuln on enemies with 0-2 vuln stacks
rather than only 0 (otherwise he only applies vuln)
smoky quarry
p0 lifeng is super replaceable
are you sure that phys susc and link is replaceable? With whom? Ember?
twilit quail
for future patch
tight haven
no
warped sorrel
i thought he is great
tight haven
ianas only saying that p0 lifeng isnt as strong as previously thought with the new gear sets
hes still optimal and if you have his p1 then hes still as strong as ever in the slot
twilit quail
he's jsut the most replaceable by future unit rn
tight haven
grain of salt tbf
smoky quarry
he's jsut the most replaceable by future unit rn
Replaceable? More like another option, isn't that great?
Options are great, downscaling isn't
tight haven
tbc he does still do all the lifeng stuff
chen just got even more damage share this patch
twilit quail
everyone on the team other than p0 lifeng gained significant
smoky quarry
chen just got even more damage share this patch
her personal damage is increased by like 8%
warped sorrel
what is physical team like team %
twilit quail
p0 lifeng gets like nothing
tight haven
lifeng got basically nothing yeah
twilit quail
cause he has to be on xiranite duty
tight haven
god the agi slab
warped sorrel
who do what % of the team dmg
smoky quarry
and p3
tight haven
lv80+ is when it starts hurting
smoky quarry
cost me some tokens too
warped sorrel
my physical team is 60/80 except dapan because he fat
tight haven
by far the best bp weapon thus far
smoky quarry
lv80+ is when it starts hurting
say that to my arclight who got sidescreened by 4star vanguard
smoky quarry
arclight dps meta when
fossil pendant
I thought about just feeding sundering to memory
but on the off chance it's useful again later I didn't
warped sorrel
this is legit
smoky quarry
enabler 😭
wispy shuttle
the enabler sits higher than the enablees
torn pilot
this is legit
lmfaoo its so fun to see the progression of some characters like gilberta
on release people thought gilberta was like omega F tier
summer flower
why chen not t0?
wispy shuttle
on release people thought gilberta was like omega F tier
GI's Bennett all over again
smoky quarry
perlica buffer is crazy work
torn pilot
GI's Bennett all over again
yeah facts
warped sorrel
akekuri is bennett to me
smoky quarry
akekuri is bennett to me
didn't bennet increased damage in twice?
warped sorrel
idk why people love antal more
fossil pendant
love what now
warped sorrel
MY T KEY IS BROKEN
smoky quarry
it was the wind
warped sorrel
MB
torn pilot
this is legit
i mean the list doesnt look like the worst but it also doesnt seem all that relevant - the reality is that basically every character in the game is playable, these characters, and a few others, might be rated higher than the rest because they fill more important niches tho
tight haven
content
torn pilot
akekuri is bennett to me
ake is uggo af
tight haven
is still too easy
to have tierlists imo
like fluorite is still viable at the top level man
warped sorrel
no like underrate wise
smoky quarry
idk why people love antal more
I prefer antal cause he gives teamwide damage buff for 12 seconds that doesn't fades away after first button press
better than link imo
warped sorrel
not as underratted as bennett tho
tight haven
if you had to make a tierlist i think its like
laev S
everyone else under her
laev is so OP for account progression
warped sorrel
im also under her
torn pilot
i mean akekuri just isnt the same as bennet imo
tight haven
wulf needs 0 investment, akekuri only needs investment into her ult, ardelia only needs investment into her bskill
and then you just max out laev
wispy shuttle
As long as this game doesn't devolve to circlefield like circle impact did, I'm fine
smoky quarry
wulf needs 0 investment, akekuri only needs investment into her ult, ardelia onl...
laeva needs invest into bitcoin to get p5
warped sorrel
As long as this game doesn't devolve to circlefield like circle impact did, I'm ...
only single target content field
gritty briar
a general tierlist is only really useful for the very top and very bottom imo. The specific placings in between are just gonna be situational enough to not matter
drifting quest
tierlists all suck
none of them are good
they exist for lazy people only
to be mislead
for people to clickbait views
twilit quail
it's not fundamentally different from any other format of rating things
torn pilot
yeah i feel like tier lists just lose too much context to be an effective form of information
gritty briar
like it's nice when you're new to a game to be like "these are the characters to always consider and these are the characters to basically never consider"
twilit quail
no matter how you talk about comparative gameplay strength
tight haven
no team gets locked out of any content atp
twilit quail
there will always be a way a particularly lazy viewer
gritty briar
like it's at least useful information that the average person never really needs to consider whether catcher fits into their team
twilit quail
can boil it down to something that is stripped of any actual understanding
there is no like
torn pilot
like it's nice when you're new to a game to be like "these are the characters to...
yeah true
twilit quail
malice inherent to a tier list or some ontological factor that makes it bad and ineffectual
torn pilot
but it definitely lacks context
tight haven
so the only real format for measuring value imo is how much account damage they do to you in order to get them to perform
which is why yvonne SUCKS
warped sorrel
tierlist is pretty good for people who doesnt care about TC
twilit quail
it's just a convenient format for people who don't want to actually engage
smoky quarry
Do you think that 6-star flame subdps will fit into laeva team?
warped sorrel
and just want to know who is currently good
torn pilot
so the only real format for measuring value imo is how much account damage they ...
what is even account damage tho
twilit quail
it's a perfectly fine format if it is actually explained
tight haven
resources mainly
gritty briar
the loss of context is why i don't consider everything in the middle to be precise or important if the tierlist is general and not specific to anything
twilit quail
and again no matter what format you want to present your thoughts in
because comparative strength is very certainly real and there are power level differences
torn pilot
how is playing the game to get resources for your team damaging to your account
gritty briar
you only really care about the extremes in these cases imo
torn pilot
i dont really understand that much
twilit quail
people will find a way to strip the actual udnersatnding from it
tight haven
how is playing the game to get resources for your team damaging to your account
in the context of opportunity cost
twilit quail
there really is no real difference fundamentally
tight haven
i could get and raise multiple other ops, kit them out to make yvonne work
wispy shuttle
Game is too easy for "account damage" to exist
tight haven
or i could get laev and play the game with literal handouts
ofc this calculus isnt relevant anymore
we're in 1.1 now
smoky quarry
in the context of opportunity cost
in the long run we'll level everyone
unless devs lock in and release 10 5-stars
torn pilot
in the long run we'll level everyone
yeah i agree with this
torn pilot
or i could get laev and play the game with literal handouts
i suppose your take is relevant if you plan to speedrun endfield and play for 1 week then drop the game
tight haven
ok im only arguing that laev is much more resource-efficient compared to any other team to bring to a high performance level
like do u agree with that lol
torn pilot
but otherwise that just isnt relevant to me
smoky quarry
we are endfield 🗣️ 🔥
wispy shuttle
There are definitely cheaper and more expensive teams
twilit quail
resource efficiency is like the singular most relevant thing for people who are progressing
torn pilot
ok im only arguing that laev is much more resource-efficient compared to any oth...
yeah but at the same time i could also just use chen and save on 60k orbs
to "damage my account less"
tight haven
also fair!
but laev will clear things faster and more comfortably
shes a better value proposition in my view
drifting quest
it's a perfectly fine format if it is actually explained
by the time you've actually explained it its not a tier list anymore, basically
torn pilot
i think that effective tierlists have more versatile categories for characters
wispy shuttle
Do we have leader boards where people can submit clear times for bosses and umbral with specific teams?
torn pilot
without them thereis just wayyy too much context lost
tight haven
the weeks i spend investing in appropriate gearing and resources to make avy work, if i got lucky and started off with laev i would likely already be far ahead
replace "avy" with like
torn pilot
you gut so much nuance
yeah agree
tight haven
anyone else ever
drifting quest
unit performance changes massively based on weapon, gear, team, rot, enemy fought, 0 vs max energy start, etc
smoky quarry
unit performance changes massively based on weapon, gear, team, rot, enemy fough...
There are general tendencies
twilit quail
but team performance is easy enough to rate
gritty briar
yeah but it helps for finding the extreme ends
You don't really need much nuance if you see catcher at bottom tier because you won't build him
smoky quarry
Like how catcher can't fit into any team and be useful
gritty briar
you just need to know he sucks
twilit quail
catcher is completely unemployed so like
drifting quest
team performance is better but its also hard to split units into tiers because they specialise in different things
gritty briar
nuance not needed
twilit quail
he shouldnt even need a spot on a list
smoky quarry
catcher is 3 star fr fr
drifting quest
and then you have like a bunch of S tier teams and like a couple A
torn pilot
I mean I agree that unit by unit tierlist is not meaningful in this game
i mostly agree with you that its helpful for beginners to be able to look at a list and get a broad understanding of what characters have potential and which dont have much
drifting quest
then all the jank
how do you use a tier list to show a team is good but you require an iq above 60 and two functioning hands to play
gritty briar
If someone can just look at the very top and very bottom of a tierlist to see what to build around and what to not bother reading the kits for, that's about all the value you can get from a general tier list
drifting quest
versus one that's weaker but can be played by a cat running along the keyboard
gritty briar
how do you use a tier list to show a team is good but you require an iq above 60...
A tool doesn't need to explain everything to be useful though?
It can serve 1 purpose and not explain the rest of the shit you're asking for
torn pilot
yeah true
gritty briar
it's like saying a ruler is useless cause it doesn't tell me temperature
drifting quest
you're misconstruing the argument there
its like giving someone a ruler that only measures in apples worth of lengths
'it works so it's fine'
yeah but it doesnt do what it should or provide anything useful
gritty briar
Like it's useful for the thing it's meant to do
A vague outline for what's worth considering
The game doesn't have that many characters so rn it's whatever
But when we end up with 300 characters, are you gonna ask someone to read all 300 kits or just the top half of the best characters?
drifting quest
id expect them to pick a favourite at a glance and read into what's relevant for that unit
not 150 kits where they wont care about 90%
if they read into that unit and dont like it they pick another
they read a fraction of the total information but read everything relevant
tight haven
trying out solo tangtang i think she is pretty neat for progression
drifting quest
they dont see a tier list with new shilled unit in SSS tier and then try put that unit with the last 2 SS tier units and expect a cohesive team
gritty briar
Yeah but if someone just wants to know strong things to build around, it might be more helpful to look at stuff that generally is key to stronger teams and look at all the stuff relevant to that
smoky quarry
the best team must be laevatein tangtang ardelia pog right
you are reading it wrong
gritty briar
which would mean starting with looking for a top tier character and seeing what teams they need
honest hill
the best team must be laevatein tangtang ardelia pog right
there is a team tier list 
gritty briar
I might see this tierlist and think "okay laev is a top tier unit, what team does she use?" and start my research from there
drifting quest
by that logic if i want the best team then the laevatein unit is the best team
because she's the only T0 DPS
(not how it works)
gritty briar
without the tier list, i might start at catcher and look for synergies with him
drifting quest
a sufficiently useful source would explain catchers issues with appropriate nuance
without needing arbitrary rankings
smoky quarry
a sufficiently useful source would explain catchers issues with appropriate nuan...
you are expecting newbie gacha player to read?
that never happens
tight haven
i never liked these individual unit tierlists in heavily team-based games
gritty briar
it's a decent enough starting point to see what is strongest ops to start around
smoky quarry
tierlist gives you general understanding of powerscaling
tight haven
the format of ak just allows for individual unit valuations to work
smoky quarry
and you can start working from there
tight haven
a bad example for me would probably be gbf's japanese community tierlist systems
gritty briar
It's a first step
It helps you pick what to read first.
Rather than read kits at random until you hit something
drifting quest
unit tier lists just inherently provide nothing of value you cannot also get from a better source
at best they provide the same information in less quality and quantity
at worst they actively mislead
tight haven
where they assigned a number from 0-10 to each unit but this was confusing because none of these tierlists would ever tell you how they synergized
and individual units in gbf suck because its a team game
gritty briar
Without a tier list and a larger roster of characters, i might end up reading 10 catchers kits before i end up at someone worth building around
tight haven
team tierlists are probably the way to go imo
drifting quest
'worth' building around is always subjective
team tier lists are better but still have issues
tight haven
yeah well
i think theyre still worthy entries in community info
unlike unit tierlists
spare light
Without a tier list and a larger roster of characters, i might end up reading 10...
from my experience each team would have their strengths
gritty briar
'worth' building around is always subjective
okay but you agree that if we did have 10 catchers, it would be worthwhile to tell someone to start reading anywhere else if they were looking for someone strong right?
spare light
worth units is... well, so far every banner is worth
heady pine
the best team must be laevatein tangtang ardelia pog right
damn did i mess up by investing in last rite
summer flicker
the best team must be laevatein tangtang ardelia pog right
heady pine
yvonne just better i guess
drifting quest
okay but you agree that if we did have 10 catchers, it would be worthwhile to te...
if they're looking for someone strong you have the power and free will to give them recommendations with nuance
rather than saying 'just check the tier list bro'
spare light
damn did i mess up by investing in last rite <:PerliDerp:1146342157825871873>
no, she's good with Yvonne if you have her, even better if you also have Tangtang
drifting quest
'unit A is performing well in current content with a cheap team'
heady pine
no, she's good with Yvonne if you have her, even better if you also have Tangtan...
she's only tier 0.5 tho
summer flicker
damn did i mess up by investing in last rite <:PerliDerp:1146342157825871873>
how do i get 2 tangtang team
drifting quest
'unit B has the highest damage ceiling but their team is expensive'
spare light
she's only tier 0.5 tho
bruh
heady pine
i dont run characters who dont have a t0 team
spare light
"only"
heady pine
spare light
i dont run characters who dont have a t0 team
question is, do they synergize?
echo cove
Tierlist can be accurate if u put enuf effort into it. It's just that it'd need so much elaboration that at that point it's prolly just better to ask the community for recommendations lmao
heady pine
question is, do they synergize?
no because lr isnt included in the yvonne hyper comp
drifting quest
which is what i said
heady pine
so they dont
summer flicker
Tierlist can be accurate if u put enuf effort into it. It's just that it'd need ...
tangtang is t0
no context
heady pine
drifting quest
by the time a tier list has sufficient information to be 'good' its no longer a tier list
spare light
no because lr isnt included in the yvonne hyper comp
it's in several of the guides I've read so
echo cove
Well it depends i guess
spare light
my cryo team is Yvonne, Tangtang, Last Rite, Xaihi
heady pine
it's in several of the guides I've read so
unfortunately those guides aren't prywden, the #1 source for all endfield content
spare light
big damage
echo cove
It's not gonna look like that prydwen one, but a game i used to play had that kinda tierlist and it worked
As in the top player can agree w it
drifting quest
each unit would be in the tier list 5-10 different times
with paragraphs of nuance for each placement
its just so unrealistic
echo cove
each unit would be in the tier list 5-10 different times
Divide it per use, correct
drifting quest
not even per use
drifting quest
per weapon, per gear set, per team, per function in the team, per enemy content
echo cove
Archetype i'd say
gritty briar
if they're looking for someone strong you have the power and free will to give t...
If they're new they probably don't understand the nuance that well.
It's also just sorta a tier list anyways if you're making categories for what does well in certain context, and have characters that you exclude mentioning because they're too weak. You're not calling them tiers and making it on the spot but this is just a pseudo tier list.
drifting quest
you could put one unit in there 30 or 40 times and not cover everything
echo cove
per weapon, per gear set, per team, per function in the team, per enemy content
Eh... If we r talking tierlist, it should be more on the unit's inherent potential on proper build, no?
At least that's the assumption
spare light
unfortunately those guides aren't prywden, the #1 source for all endfield conten...
I don't use tierlist much these days, team build is the important thing
drifting quest
Eh... If we r talking tierlist, it should be more on the unit's inherent potenti...
units have wildly different 'inherent potential' based on their placement
summer flicker
try to figure what the assumption for that is
spare light
Heat: Laevatain, Wulfgard, Akekuri, Ardelia
Cryo: Yvonne, Tangtang, Last Rite, Xaihi
that's my main teams
drifting quest
head ornament tier list
echo cove
units have wildly different 'inherent potential' based on their placement
Indeed, that's why it should be divided by the archetype
drifting quest
Indeed, that's why it should be divided by the archetype
even per archetype one unit can have tons of permutations
echo cove
Like there won't be 1 general tierlist without a ton of dif tierlist ranking each archetype n such
echo cove
even per archetype one unit can have tons of permutations
Can, which u can just build
gritty briar
I don't think tier lists are really that useful for nuance either but i think that's just not their job.
I just think of them like a reading priority list
summer flicker
head ornament tier list
gritty briar
you get your nuance once you pick someone to actually read
echo cove
That's kinda the point of a tierlist
drifting quest
i mean im going to bow out because this is going nowhere
im not going to change my mind on how bad tier lists are
warped sorrel
first thing i look at before pulling after comeback is tierlist tho
drifting quest
and you're not going to change your mind on them having value
timber harness
even with no context it feels wrong
summer flicker
even with no context it feels wrong
it just a waifu tier list
timber harness
you just put your ice team at the top or smth
echo cove
im not going to change my mind on how bad tier lists are
The current one we have is bad, that's why
summer flicker
noneed context
summer flicker
you just put your ice team at the top or smth
there no one else kekw
except ice team/ support there
timber harness
guys i have leaks
timber harness
next endmin element is ice
drifting berry
Finally a free upgrade for Yvonne?
tight haven
you just need a good dps gun and to get and raise xaihi and to get gilberta/tangtang and finish wulings story and yvonne can be good 
spare light
I just pull based on which team and usefulness
gritty briar
is this just a cryo support tier list?
summer flicker
summer flicker
is this just a cryo support tier list?
yes
or a more like: support for tangtang dps tier list
cuz alesh is ok ~ in yvonne team
he would not be C if its yvonne kekw
rare zodiac
only if jackpot
summer flicker
Alesh is mainstay in Yvonne tho
new rot iirc perlica better than alesh ish?, or sth
or it just me misremembering
unreal light
new rot iirc perlica better than alesh ish?, or sth
Whales are not people, their results are not accounted for
Actually if you do the TT tier list, your Fluo should be higher hmm
summer flicker
its lower because flo is cope
unreal light
Why would you trade gilb
summer flicker
she surely way less than perl
bro you kill electrification
and stanza
that's even more break kekw
florite only mission is corrosion there
unreal light
bro you kill electrification
and stanza
Soooo?
summer flicker
not worth the tradeoff
unreal light
florite only mission is corrosion there
Tf
summer flicker
no way she is perlica tier
warped sorrel
unreal light
no way she is perlica tier
Do the calc
gritty briar
what are you cooking?
smoky quarry
what are you cooking?
man who burned the kitchen
unreal light
Dick size
warped sorrel
i have stroke mid tierlist
smoky quarry
i have stroke mid tierlist
more like "stroked to lavatein" mid tierlist
warped sorrel
i'm now half paralyzed
rare zodiac
speki
sterile patrol
Damn
trim cipher
chilly bolt
i dont have p3 numbers but p5 glorious is 13% better than p5 sundering, and with yinglung the gap is even bigger
heady pine
Memory is superior to p5 Sundering at P3.
smoky quarry
i dont have p3 numbers but p5 glorious is 13% better than p5 sundering, and with...
the red one?
drifting quest
warped sorrel
I WAS MAKING THIS
fresh trench
warped sorrel
YOU STOLE IT FROM ME
daring dove
i have stroke mid tierlist
Good makes you an easier target after putting her in C tier. 
echo cove
OMG AN ACTUAL ACCURATE TIERLIST FOR ONCE !?!?!!
chilly bolt
the red one?
summer flicker
i saw snowshine at the top and thought: solo tier list or sth
warped sorrel
Good makes you an easier target after putting her in C tier. <:A_HuOmegaLOL:8075...
she is a cat
ofcause she is C
smoky quarry
OMG AN ACTUAL ACCURATE TIERLIST FOR ONCE !?!?!!
shuo will like this one
drifting quest
the only factually true tier list
warped sorrel
Gear tierlist when
chilly bolt
btw ardelia bis is actually stanza if you dont use perlica
chilly bolt
i just tested
warped sorrel
i disagree
summer flicker
s - slab
smoky quarry
btw ardelia bis is actually stanza if you dont use perlica
doubt it
summer flicker
there nothing wrong about this slab propagranda
drifting quest
slab is L tier
summer flicker
warped sorrel
if slap is so good
where is slab 2
summer flicker
if slab is so good, why need slab 2
smoky quarry
if slap is so good
where is slab 2
it's called frontiers tube
summer flicker
smoky quarry
echo cove
smoky quarry
so the red one
warped sorrel
0.5% better? holy we eating good today
smoky quarry
0.5% better? holy we eating good today
new chen buff dropped
summer flicker
than normal yvonne
warped sorrel
my chen can finally do 25.21558749445 more dmg and clear stygian onslaught
smoky quarry
pull a whole ass char plus sig for a 5% gain
that's gonna cost you 500 dollars
On these money, I could buy 30 kg of icecream and be happiest man alive for a whole month
warped sorrel
i hope there is a set that increase chen fertilize rate
smoky quarry
smoky quarry
i hope there is a set that increase chen fertilize rate
what
trim cipher
Memory is superior to p5 Sundering at P3.
Nice. Time to get rid of Gus' box cutter
warped sorrel
whoa irl sundering
noble tapir
I’m waiting till I get the essence for memory before I switch.
daring dove
isnt tt yvonne 5% better
Than what not running Tangtang?
gritty briar
this is what max pot looks like?
smoky quarry
more like p-1
warped sorrel
is size tierlist out?
summer flicker
Than what not running Tangtang?
ye
noble tapir
Da pan is the biggest, no other size matters
gritty briar
is size tierlist out?
rossi new bottom tier soon
noble tapir
He’s not fat he’s a power lifter
daring dove
ye<:PerliDerp:1146342157825871873>
What's the assumption for the alternative, because with comparisons like this It's good to know. Like are they comparing P0 Tangtang without sig to P5 Perlica with P5 Stanza?
warped sorrel
how short is rossi
this will impact her running speed
and her dash become shorter
daring dove
Also are they comparing against a ST enemy.
warped sorrel
= she is a bad operator
summer flicker
What's the assumption for the alternative, because with comparisons like this It...
p0 tt with p5 perl p5 stanza , p0 yvonne , p5 xaihi with dey
vs p0 yvonne p0 gilb p0 xaihi p5 perl
early number, im waiting for maygi vid for the final number
last acorn
I think this is a good tier list, though some options could definitely be moved to other tiers (wasnt sure on perlica or antal)
echo cove
where is Yv no tangtang vs Yv witth tangtang cal go
Old yv team is no tt
daring dove
p0 tt with p5 perl p5 stanza , p0 yvonne , p5 xaihi with dey
vs p0 yvonne p0 gi...
For me I'd have to know the fight assumption. If it's ST I can see that being that case P5 Perlica with P5 Stanza is a big buff. If it's AoE I'm calling bs.
warped sorrel
mb im stupid
summer flicker
ofc its single
daring dove
Either way 5% difference is the absolute lowest you'll see real world.
gritty briar
I think this is a good tier list, though some options could definitely be moved ...
I think perlica and antal both Being in Y tier would be fine
honest hill
the "hardest" content is ST rn
last acorn
I think perlica and antal both Being in Y tier would be fine
Yea that could work
warped sorrel
3000 dps different is godly funny
daring dove
i dont think ppl calc for aoe clear <:PerliDerp:1146342157825871873> <:PerliDerp...
Ok but you see how it's also a misleading number then, considering most encounters will be 3x quicker with Tangtang on the team?
So saying only 5% better is a bit nebulous
warped sorrel
it this the best we will get with no powercreep game?
this is so good
i dont have to pull for tttthe character i dont like tto make my team 50% better
echo cove
So saying only 5% better is a bit nebulous
Aoe is defo more than 5% better, no?
echo cove
this is so good
i dont have to pull for tttthe character i dont like tto make my...
Yet
summer flicker
mdps tt will be prolly better than yvonne mdps
at that point put yvonne in the bag
warped sorrel
or maybe tangtang just awfully bad and they will release thing like HSR anyway
summer flicker
in aoe content
warped sorrel
at that point put yvonne in the bag<:PerliFumo:1148081871855570975> <:PerliFumo:...
that sound very sad and real
echo cove
Tbh just gilberta whatever aoe content we have
daring dove
Aoe is defo more than 5% better, no?
It'll be close to 100% better, since Tangtang will clear the mobs in 7 second flat. Point is it's one of those calcs that's techincally correct but tells you absolutely nothing about real world performance.
echo cove
smoky quarry
can we start making tierlist of a tierlists?
echo cove
It'll be close to 100% better, since Tangtang will clear the mobs in 7 second fl...
Yeah fair
gritty briar
they have jokes
hardest trim in the game
smoky quarry
say thanks that you don't need all of them
smoky quarry
can we tc how to get that medal?
okay
put family guy on the bottom of the screen
and subway surfers on the side of the screen
potent hornet
litterally watching family guy right now
smoky quarry
Now do simulations like that
twilit quail
reportedly someone in the reddit post complaining about my document last month
thought I literally was prydwen
i WAS the entire website
crazy
noble tapir
Meanwhile he probably enjoys guoba’s content
this is not a shot at Guoba simply acknowledging that he works with prydwen
drifting quest
not even that consistently
a lot of post release stuff isnt guoba partnered afaik
they do their own calcs and stuff
afaik at least
outer ermine
69s
smoky quarry
they do their own calcs and stuff
what is this prydwen blud doing on the calculator
urban plaza
<:PerliChaos:1189261670938312744> 69s
Bring it down to 6 7
outer ermine
goddamn could have been less 
caught too much slowtime on 2nd
smoky quarry
Bring it down to 6 7
public hanging in two days
noble tapir
Pretty sure, they usually have their own person for each game they cover, yeah. But often refer to guoba as well
smoky quarry
reportedly someone in the reddit post complaining about my document last month
is that iana?
noble tapir
if he covers said game
urban plaza
thought I literally was prydwen
Omg you are not?!
Shocking reveal /s
noble tapir
iana trickcall:chibi go calcs go crazy
warped sorrel
reportedly someone in the reddit post complaining about my document last month
why are they thinking you are prydwed
chilly bolt
goddamn could have been less <:PerliWaaaaa:1145586641629609995> caught too much ...
Btw hifumi i wanna confirm this stanza on ardelia is better than her sig?
warped sorrel
Btw hifumi i wanna confirm this stanza on ardelia is better than her sig?
WHAT NOWAY
twilit quail
if you dont have sp
you use stanza
and yeah the effect is not necessarily worse than the sig
chilly bolt
No like i tested and stanza is the clear winner
warped sorrel
when i play laeva i never use pinksheep skill
chilly bolt
In 1 rot
twilit quail
if you have like det unit and stuff yeah probably
stanza doesnt need sp to activate so it mogs a lot of stuff
chilly bolt
I dont have chiv so cant test stanza with it sadly
daring dove
reportedly someone in the reddit post complaining about my document last month
The correct response is usually "if you don't like it calc it yourself". That's how we used to handle in the Genshin TC community.
twilit quail
ok so they dont have any actual criticism of the content
they just dont like the aesthetics
gritty briar
people just cant comprehend when they're not the target audience for something
warped sorrel
i only watch zajeff TC in genshin
twilit quail
they dont have anything to say about the actual work
it's just a purely emotional reaction
urban plaza
Smh you are not using their preferred font
How could you disappoint them like that
summer flicker
<:PerliChaos:1189261670938312744> 69s
gritty briar
the people who are just playing whatever characters they like obviously aren't the target audience for a sheet focused around the few top teams in the game, but somehow this goes over their head
daring dove
i only watch zajeff TC in genshin
He's not always on point to be fair but he's never toxic so I like the guy. Not like Jstern who couldn't be trusted in general TC communities an got himself banned. 
twilit quail
genius comments like "DPS loss is a dumb concept that reduces everything in the game to mashing buttons and didnt exist until genshin"
in that post
noble tapir
Genshin is the persona 5 of gacha games man.
The progenitor
urban plaza
the people who are just playing whatever characters they like obviously aren't t...
My favorite are the
Here are the mathematical most optimal builds and rotations
- "BUT I LIKE X CHARACTER MORE, WHY ISNT SHE INCLUDED?!? SHE IS STRONG!!!"
warped sorrel
see TC post
look at comment
you can clear everything anyway this game is very eazy
noble tapir
Everything that came before Genshin is just fake news.
Including but not limited to breath of the wild
urban plaza
see TC post
look at comment
you can clear everything anyway this game is very e...
Well...they do have a point
The current content doesn't really give much reason for optimizing stuff
But still
quasi quarry
genius comments like "DPS loss is a dumb concept that reduces everything in the ...
yep, people didn't crunch numbers for all types of games before, nope, not at all, genshin spawned tcing
gritty briar
Well...they do have a point
The current content doesn't really give much reason ...
Yeah but it being a true statement doesn't make it relevant to the thing they're criticizing.
Responding to a sheet about minmaxing about not needing to minmax isn't real criticism that can help the sheet
urban plaza
Yeah
gritty briar
Like i dont really care about the top teams either personally and the sheet isn't directly helpful for me.
I'm just aware that it isn't meant for me
sometimes i link it for other people anyways
daring dove
Tangtang looking stronk now.
warped sorrel
if it keep being like this
new character doesnt really impact much on overall team dps
they might be cooking content that require team at good overall
summer flicker
if it keep being like this
new character doesnt really impact much on overall te...
i prefer that
over constant pwc
warped sorrel
something like
abyss butt you cant rest or change team
and you have to go floor 9 to 11 in one go
gritty briar
Tangtang looking stronk now. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
1 more mastery
daring dove
yep, people didn't crunch numbers for all types of games before, nope, not at al...
Not true at all, I used to TC the shit out of Danmachi Memoria Freese back in the day. but that's a 2D team based game where I didn't have to worry about nonsense like motion values. I stopped caring about sheets when I had to start calc'ing MV's.
honest hill
Tangtang looking stronk now. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
what set u running
quasi quarry
Not true at all, I used to TC the shit out of Danmachi Memoria Freese back in th...
I'm really hoping you got that I was being sarcasitc
if not it's ok
daring dove
what set u running
chilly bolt
I almost fell for that
honest hill
so many diff variations idk which is best but I settled on slab
daring dove
so many diff variations idk which is best but I settled on slab <:PerliFumo:1148...
It's techincally not Tangtang's best set to be fair I think slab is slightly better at my level of investment
But I'm not doing nonsense like running slab with the wrong sub stats.
honest hill
daring dove
Plus difference is marginal.
honest hill
I have 800+ agi w slab
honest hill
funny number
gritty briar
Tangtang looking stronk now. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
the masteries are crazy tho. do you start to run out of crowns?
i'm still more bottlenecked by other materials but i wonder if crowns will become the problem soon
daring dove
the masteries are crazy tho. do you start to run out of crowns?
Yeah, I have enough to fully max out Tangtang then I'm out of crowns again.
gritty briar
the crown is not the bottle neck
well they aren't the bottleneck to us mere mortals
but to a whale that's spamming sanity refreshes...
warped sorrel
slab isnt actually good right?
daring dove
slab isnt actually good right?
I think it's better when you have potentials on her weapon & P1. Before that it doesn't really matter.
summer flicker
daring dove
Problem is with potentials on her weapon is you quickly become skill DMG% saturated.
daring dove
A lot of it is common sense to be honest, when you have 280% effective skill DMG% you've hit some diminishing returns.
Me an Shuo where talking about it long beforre Maygi post.
bronze plume
i mean
most things getting more of it have diminishing returns over the first copy anyway
fuck that make every pot go 2x then 4x then 8x then 16x
daring dove
I might swap over to slap myself but only when Tangtang is artificed to a really high quality.
As slab really benefits from high end builds, I'd advise people who aren't going to Artifice Tangtang just use my build.
urban plaza
Im gonna wait with artificing tangtang until there is a common agreement on the new builds
daring dove
Or run some ult gain it depends on your team requirements.
urban plaza
Feels like it still changes every other day
summer flicker
build is dependent on rotation
urban plaza
That as well
And I definitely think my LR/TT team could improve the rotation
daring dove
Feels like it still changes every other day
Anyway she's done.
urban plaza
I mean skills are whatever
Just getting enough artificer is a pain with how bottlenecked we still are
80/week
daring dove
I mean skills are whatever
Just getting enough artificer is a pain with how bot...
It'll get easier problem is they keep drip feeding us Wulling AIC.
I reckon that 80 a week will be quite hard to hit as well.
potent hornet
1.2 should be the new factory area
tight haven
the new gear not being artificeable with xiran comp gear is annoying
like really annoying
honest hill
80 catalyst per week is hardd
urban plaza
It sadly is, especially with new gear costing 16k
tight haven
basically doubles the effective bill cost to artifice anything
honest hill
especially w the 16k cost on red gear
urban plaza
60 is more reasonable
honest hill
it's ridiculous
tight haven
the catalysts arent as much the problem anymore as it is just
crafting gear being much more time-costly
honest hill
I have near 100+ catalysts
daring dove
especially w the 16k cost on red gear
Most of it is stilla artificable with the older gear to be honest? 
Even the skill damage bonus.
warped sorrel
i think all laevatain lover is gone with her banner
tight haven
i think the margins are just too tight, idk. it feels kind of bad
warped sorrel
like stop playing
urban plaza
It took me like 140 to fully upgrade my LR set
So unlucky
honest hill
Most of it is stilla artificable with the older gear to be honest? <:108_yaehmm:...
ye but for some other gear
where u need red gear to artifice other gear
it's rough
Why's it even 16k
tight haven
if you start making comps then you stop keeping on top of qingbo's trade limit
slowing down progression obv
but it is just super annoying
honest hill
next gear going to cost 32k
tight haven
even if they did that they'd just introduce even more expensive gear
urban plaza
And more stock
Its kinda insane how valley was useless after 2 weeks
And wuling let's us starve
gritty briar
well it'll happen to wuling one day
warped sorrel
buy all the food and eat them in one go
honest hill
We hopefully get another outpost with 1.2
who knows maybe they going to add another 20 catalysts that costs 300k
spare light
Anyway she's done. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
I've been holding off on crowning because of lack of mats
warped sorrel
Its kinda insane how valley was useless after 2 weeks
we will eventually remove valley for out of exittance
tight haven
cuprium is bottlenecking production now
urban plaza
In a year maybe
warped sorrel
due to factory only fucttion for 2 recentt region
urban plaza
If they keep doing this pace
urban plaza
due to factory only fucttion for 2 recentt region
That was only for offline tho iirc
tight haven
the current maximums of 12/min sc batts, 6/min syringeA and 3/min syringeC are so cringe
warped sorrel
That was only for offline tho iirc
valley 4 is useless anyway
urban plaza
the current maximums of 12/min sc batts, 6/min syringeA and 3/min syringeC are s...
My whole jingyu village is empty
There is literally 0 to produce
tight haven
same
urban plaza
Cause everything fits in Wuling
tight haven
qingbo aic is just empty
gritty briar
In a year maybe
well they did say the plan was for a year of wuling
https://x.com/AK_CN_Shitpost/status/2027195951140712654?t=K-iNC28rPH6j8a_x7_zI2A&s=19
X
warped sorrel
well they did say the plan was for a year of wuling
https://x.com/AK_CN_Shitpos...
no penacony visit?
urban plaza
I honestly have no idea how they could drag out the story for a whole year
gritty briar
a year for the second region isn't too surprising to me but i wonder how they'll stretch this out
urban plaza
Feels like we are done in idk 3 months
warped sorrel
Isnt ak do that?
gritty briar
what could possibly happen in wuling for the next 5 patches?
gritty briar
Isnt ak do that?
well AK isn't adding expansions to a story in 1 specific region every 5 weeks for a full year
urban plaza
Especially something that isnt just a repetition of stuff that already happened
warped sorrel
Ak took very long to finish their act 1 no?
gritty briar
Ak took very long to finish their act 1 no?
yeah but they add story to other things
side stories and stuff
it's not like they had 8 large updates in the first year about chernobog
warped sorrel
yeah but they add story to other things
side stories and stuff
It isnt like what they did rn?
Rossi story ts
gritty briar
well i'm kinda expecting them to do a main story expansion every patch
arknights did not expand their main story every 5 weeks, no.
warped sorrel
Ok
gritty briar
or however long these patches are
runic monolith
Is vulnerability means nothing if we dont apply breach / crush?
daring dove
I'm done.
urban plaza
outer ermine
sullen silo
imagine having that much sanity and still going insane 
runic monolith
Is vulnerable applies debuff physical damage / resistance on enemy?
honest hill
I'm done. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
what a whel
vapid flame
Is vulnerable applies debuff physical damage / resistance on enemy?
no it does nothing by itself, it's more like a resource
smoky quarry
I'm done. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
job applications be sitting around campfire and telling scary stories about 60 auth players
daring dove
job applications be sitting around campfire and telling scary stories about 60 a...
What your authority level if it's not 60 you don't have permission to speak to me 
smoky quarry
59, counterpoint: I never converted originium to sanity
gritty briar
59, counterpoint: I never converted originium to sanity
sounds like poverty issue
i also only hit 59 yesterday
tranquil cedar
Does someone have Xiahi conversion rate from intel on her ultimate?
smoky quarry
~~sounds like poverty issue~~
I am not slaving away my life for something that has no real value
daring dove
59, counterpoint: I never converted originium to sanity
Fair to be honest that's sensible. I'm only clowning around anyway. 
smoky quarry
tranquil cedar
I didn't find the info while looking
smoky quarry
next story quest should require at least 55 auth levels
urban plaza
59 is the "plays since launch, no sanity refresh" level
Im at 7830/45000 to 60
Missed a few hundred at start
smoky quarry
Im at 7830/45000 to 60
that's gonna take a month if not more
smoky quarry
it's only 200 rock or something
shush, that's 2/5 of a pull
tranquil cedar
One less thing in event page i guess
smoky quarry
we gacha players do the most random bullshit imagineable for 0.1 pull
daring dove
One less thing in event page i guess
It's still there.
barren geyser
i'm doing swordmancer gilberta. what pieces would you choose? chest ofc for ult gain eff and maybe the kits that give arts intensity?
urban plaza
It's still there. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
Oof
smoky quarry
It's still there. <a:091_Run:1096961646053826700>
should be gone next day
tranquil cedar
Having the puzzle thing still in event and not in permanent
jagged stump
i wish theres a preset button for gearing
smoky quarry
i wish theres a preset button for gearing <:PerliDerp:1146342157825871873>
devs didn't listened
tranquil cedar
I take any event now, I deplete everything for P1 tangtang
Long road to 120 again
smoky quarry
<:SnowshineExcited:1481361618724982956> I take any event now, I deplete everythi...
gonna unload all progression mat into her huh
jagged stump
devs didn't listened
it was tedious af when we tested something and keep switching gear set
i hate it
tranquil cedar
gonna unload all progression mat into her huh
I was like "P1 is cool and no way I will need 240 pull for that, RIGHT?"
RIGHT????
daring dove
<:SnowshineExcited:1481361618724982956> I take any event now, I deplete everythi...
I mean for me she's the best operator in the game rn, an her P1 is really nice. So not a horrible choice however I hope you don't want Rossi as well.
smoky quarry
<:PerliStareYou:1171270704310792332> Long road to 120 again
💳
urban plaza
I just want QoL for depots/delivery
summer flicker
i need tt p5
urban plaza
Its so ass doing 7 of them 1 by 1
Even transferring
summer flicker
runic monolith
no it does nothing by itself, it's more like a resource
So we can use chen ultimate? Even 0 vulnerability?
tranquil cedar
I mean for me she's the best operator in the game rn, an her P1 is really nice. ...
Don't worry, I didn't like any future character for now
smoky quarry
Its so ass doing 7 of them 1 by 1
Even transferring
why are you doing valley deliveries champ
tranquil cedar
But Mi Fu is making argument with this patch
urban plaza
why are you doing valley deliveries champ
I mean transferring them 1 by 1 is also ass
Even if noone picks them up, it's still free currency
bronze plume
theres no point to do valley in the first place
tranquil cedar
I do farm the weapon upgrade on valley
urban plaza
I still need to get the 16m bike
tranquil cedar
happen to need valley spawn and not wulling
Also i still need to buy more camera to trust ardelia to 200%
bronze plume
i just have like 250 of all the gifts from valley
then called it a day
dgaf about the bike or that
daring dove
<:SnowshineExcited:1481361618724982956> But Mi Fu is making argument with this p...
Hopefully she's second half of 1.2 should give you plenty of time to save? 
tranquil cedar
Probably 1st half unfortunally
Or maybe we get Zhang Fangyi and Mi Fu next patch and then Mi Fu can be 2st half
But I think Zhang is 1.3
terse valley
secost half
daring dove
<:PerliDerp:1146342157825871873> But I think Zhang is 1.3
We shall see story wise they where the only characters that has a big presence in this patch. So would assume we'll see them in the next one but it could literally be some randos as well.
tranquil cedar
Well they did spoil 1 character of 1.2 story on the 1.1 stream
for some reason
So who knows
urban plaza
Im betting/hoping for Zhuang + Mi Fu 1.2
tranquil cedar
I think it will be Mi Fu + Liz
smoky quarry
I think it will be Mi Fu + Liz
Are you sure? I thought devs will air mi fu and fang together
timber harness
rossi is so much more of a hype banner im surprised they made her the second banner
smoky quarry
sankta spearman has no chances of being pulled in this case
tranquil cedar
Zhuang + the last one on back
smoky quarry
he'll rival with housewife
tranquil cedar
So do expect the character order to be the same
Hope I am wrong cause I want to have enough for Mi FU
tranquil cedar
this teaser is the next 6 (now 4) it seem
daring dove
rossi is so much more of a hype banner im surprised they made her the second ban...
I mean I think Tangtang was more popular in the general playerbase. But everyone has their preferences.
urban plaza
We do have some images
smoky quarry
I mean I think Tangtang was more popular in the general playerbase. But everyone...
rossi got off-screened in main plot
she'll never appear again
urban plaza
Im not really interested in her anymore now that she can't be in heat team with her brother...
tranquil cedar
or maybe an anniversary with the pack?
urban plaza
Why did they make her hybrid
smoky quarry
Im not really interested in her anymore now that she can't be in heat team with ...
why not
daring dove
she'll never appear again
She iis kind of that awkward Valley 4 character after eveyone forgot what Valley 4 is.
terse valley
Im not really interested in her anymore now that she can't be in heat team with ...
wait what
she dont care about combustion?
smoky quarry
She iis kind of that awkward Valley 4 character after eveyone forgot what Valley...
I hope devs will forget valley 4 too
I bet northern front region is gonna be inspired by russia
trust me
timber harness
if i cant use em with endmin i dont want em
tranquil cedar
Valley 4 is not that bad as a zone
and they probably can expand on it with good story this time
smoky quarry
they can't
timber harness
i dont trust ak writing it has yet to impress me
smoky quarry
endfield lead scenarist is genshin writing enjoyer
daring dove
I bet northern front region is gonna be inspired by russia
Chinese devs do love some Russian inspired regions to be honest. So it wouldn't surprise me.
smoky quarry
so many parallels its crazy
timber harness
endfield lead scenarist is genshin writing enjoyer
inb4 quiet replacement around 2.0
if sales dip
bronze plume
the writing in ef is so far so lower the ak
timber harness
its funny cause everyone ive seen talk about the game so far has agreed the weakest point of endfield is the writing
smoky quarry
its funny cause everyone ive seen talk about the game so far has agreed the weak...
strongest point of og ak was writing
philosophy, tragedy, complex plot points
timber harness
how you get like multiple rewrites during beta and dont go "hm. something seems off"
smoky quarry
endfield incorporated nothing of that
timber harness
is hg typically this hard headed?
urban plaza
Valley story was shit
Wuling is ok so far
smoky quarry
Valley story was shit
Wuling is ok so far
wuling is below expectations too
urban plaza
Nothing outstanding, but ok