theorycrafting

[proud vector]

i can't wait for a 6* defender that is offensively minded

[wanton notch]

But they forgot to give her actual parry

[normal tangle]

by those bird guys in stockade

[signal palm]

I also went back and edited some of my earlier messages to clarify these details so they don't cause confusion or mislead people

[normal tangle]

mf roadhog hooked me bro

[twilit quail]

ok good that we cleared that up

[wanton notch]

Snowshine share it too

[normal tangle]

does anyone know the telegraph on the hook btw

i genuinely get pulled out of no where

[wanton notch]

It's also 90% damage reduction, which is neat. Plus it refunds 30 SP and at least applies vulnerability. So it's not that bad of spell.

Useless for any real speedruns tho

[normal tangle]

catcher is a pretty okay unit

[rare zodiac]

talk about 90% dmg reduction, have Lae Talent fix ?

[edgy crater]

but snowshine dps lower than catcher

[normal tangle]

he's very usable but the issue is it costs like 3 years to invest in anyone

so there's no point when you could be doing anything else that is infinitely more worth your time

[wanton notch]

Suffer

[edgy crater]

still waiting set dat reduce stagger point

the fastr u stagger with snowshine, the lower her damage is

[wanton notch]

Ask HG make your character do elemental damage on basic attacks

[edgy crater]

nah, just make her finisher being elemental

[proud vector]

6* snowshine can grapple the enemy after a successful parry to do a on the ground command grab chain

easy 50% of health

[gritty briar]

the best part of catcher is just that the parry has cool sound effect

[twilit quail]

do you know about the monster hunter wilds street fighter crossover

[dry kindle]

Overwatch mentioned

Kill this user now

[wanton notch]

It also can sometimes bugs out the camera

[gritty briar]

Oh dango, did catcher's gear change at all this patch?

i assume not

[wanton notch]

Nope. The only potential change is to swap out Swordmancer gloves for Redeemer one

[twilit quail]

is he not str wil

[wanton notch]

I wanted to try one, but I am lazy

[wanton notch]

Str+will

[twilit quail]

ember got like 10x better this patch

[wanton notch]

Dps catcher got absolutely fkng nothing this patch

[twilit quail]

because of new swordmancer pieces

with those two stats

is he using aethertech or something

[gritty briar]

dango plays dps catcher so i'm pretty sure he uses aethertech

[edgy crater]

try it, redeemer glove good

[gritty briar]

i should have a look at that glove then. completely slipped my mind somehow

[edgy crater]

111 str n 31% skill dmg at max

[gritty briar]

hm
i guess not for me. i don't skill with him as much as dango probably would

i mostly have him for basics and ult

[warped sorrel]

ember cant block?

[wanton notch]

I need to artifice it first as well as make new wulling base

[edgy crater]

yeah, remake wuling base

[wanton notch]

Her skill is just normal skill but you just get some damage reduction and interrupt resistance.

It is not really a block

[wanton notch]

Yeah, its only valid set for dps catcher

[warped sorrel]

so catcher is just snowshine with only block

[wanton notch]

Yeah, they are only two characters for now with this gimmick

[warped sorrel]

i guess he has potential in CC like content

because he doesnt mass up your elemental stack

[wanton notch]

Unless it's rampaging shields x3, I don't think so

[gritty briar]

I'm kinda thinking that the redeemer gloves still aren't beating swordmancer tac gloves on Catcher unless you're using bskill extremely frequently. Skill damage doesn't buff basics and ult right?

[wanton notch]

You just better kill enemy than bother with it

[wanton notch]

You use BS frequently

[gritty briar]

the phys damage on sm gloves also isn't that much lower

[edgy crater]

catcher is a better snowshine

[wanton notch]

But it is lower so... Any% counts

[gritty briar]

like a good portion of your Catcher damage is still basics and finisher isn't it?

[wanton notch]

It is, but his BS can hit for 80-100k too

[gritty briar]

btw did you ever get that sub min clear you were trying to get?

[wanton notch]

I haven't played for awhile actually

[warped sorrel]

so catcher is not useless
but has no use?

[wanton notch]

I probably will

[wanton notch]

That's called niche

[wispy whale]

just wait until they add a new counter attack character on the limited banner, then they will shill a new boss that wants you to use counterattack

then we will have to build snowshine or catcher when we fail to pull it

[gritty briar]

speaking of catcher
his ult animation is so long. do you guys ever just switch characters while waiting for someone's ult to end?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1482993878565916694/632B761.MP4?ex=69b8f92d&is=69b7a7ad&hm=e24d21ed1156a6d5497260225f7ba3aac006c39ef33a1888b6bb317c5cbb78a4&

this one was kinda sloppy actually, could've swapped earlier

[rare zodiac]

yeah just qs long ass animation

[gritty briar]

at least i got that estella anim cancels down

[rare zodiac]

no reason to stay there like sitting duck

[wanton notch]

I don't bother

[cinder oxide]

Just to cfm but Gil sig skill is classified under the ‘dmg boost’ mult right?

[gritty briar]

idk maybe you can get a tiny bit of extra sp and stagger out of doing it

nice clear though

[prisma venture]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-silly-cat-mlem-gif-9296454323527614443

[gritty briar]

hmm, if you hadn't missed the parry on the explosion and gotten the parry from the fireball landing too, would the clear have ended 5 seconds earlier?

cause you needed to wait for flamethrower attack for 2 parries but you had 2 parries that you missed earlier

[frozen tide]

gun to your head do you play overwatch

[prisma venture]

by overwatch you mean sekiro

[warped sorrel]

this seem like a good team

[wanton notch]

I actually couldn't parry explosion because I needed to save sp

And I had none lmao

I could have staggered earlier with Pog ult

But it's eh

[gritty briar]

oh it got used for pog

[glass wind]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1468881859961425920/tt01.gif

[gritty briar]

i think you still could've parried the fireball dropping though

[sleek lark]

if i ult BS combo plunge BS will i have 3 whirlpools with tang tang?

to fast apply her debuffs when u have full energy from start

since the ult will convert the first BS whirls into spouts + the combo one = 3 spouts

[warped sorrel]

what catcher bs do

[gritty briar]

block 90% of the damage from attack, hit back and apply vuln

refunds 30 sp or 40 if shield is up

he can get shields from combo

[warped sorrel]

seem like a decent operator

[wanton notch]

I think I either miss times or used it for something else

[glass wind]

Whats the stats for a 4 stack Freeze?

[gritty briar]

i think you had would've had enough sp afterwards tho
Cause it would return 40 sp

and pog ult was so close that even a partial skill might've given him an earlier ult and gotten the stagger early

like at 1:01 when the fireball lands on you, i think you can parry that?

[proud vector]

Rossi stuff
Wulf BS + CS + ULT + CS
Estella BS + CS
Endmin crush for delicious lv 3 shatter + lv 3-4 crush

[glass wind]

Whats the duration? Is it still the same?

[gritty briar]

sorry for late reply but it just crossed my mind
are you telling me to put an agility spear on Estella, who's a Will Strength character?

like wouldn't Jet be better just as a stat stick, even considering that the 3rd line is basically dead?

Is whatever valiant does worth more than 132 main stat and 11-23% higher atk from Jet?

[twilit quail]

i asked a guy about this and yeah it's better than razorhorn when you are combomaxxing her

because of 6* base atk

it's pretty unserious but look at what we are using

is it better than jet idk

probably not

[gritty briar]

her weapon options are just so bad man

will spear user...

[fresh trench]

I have no one to ask about this so i will ping the one i think might know@bronze plume for ardelia animation canceling her third sequences of basic attack and last hit for faster combo right? i trying to min maxing this 😭

need to compare it later

[outer ermine]

ba3

just count 1 2 in ur head

fs u can just cancel w bs

[fresh trench]

can i cancel ult? i stuck with her channeling it?

[rare zodiac]

or you can just do it a thosand time and will get the hang of timing

[outer ermine]

swap b4 u cast lol

[rare zodiac]

You onfield Arde?

Damn

[feral fractal]

how do improve my rotation? im kinda trash at the mechanics

this is probably the worst trim in the world

[rare zodiac]

Bro the first 10s of vid and i am already die inside

[feral fractal]

oh yeah i probably didnt cast ardelia BS there

not a single time

[rare zodiac]

Nah just that why waste Link on non EBS

[feral fractal]

whats a link

[rare zodiac]

The buff of Ake ult?

[dry kindle]

💀

[honest hill]

https://youtu.be/-rID1xWbUbw?si=DgEQB5ZSXzjOMJX5

[rare zodiac]

I think you should read your char kit first my man

[dry kindle]

80s marble when

[honest hill]

Reading In my gacha game?

[rare zodiac]

Nah he need basic, like breathing air kinda basic, he don’t even know what his char doing

[honest hill]

Okay whel

[honest hill]

Reading is not easy

Not same as breathing

[rare zodiac]

Well sure reading seem daunting at first, but I would recommend you try it

[dry kindle]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1CAftBcEv6/

[honest hill]

Well tbf the vid didn't use food buff

The one i sent

[dry kindle]

@dry mason 80s when

[honest hill]

He'd have to use ginseng

[dry mason]

I won't invest on Antal just for this

[gloomy chasm]

Is xaihi's art amp stacks with tangtang sig wep arts amp?

[honest hill]

Sworce can't last 80s against marble anyways

[honest hill]

Everything stacks yes

[dry kindle]

do it

[rare zodiac]

sig is not art amp?

[dry mason]

No

[icy remnant]

Already invested in Antal ages ago
Lvl9 skills lvl60/80 is all he needs anyways

[dry mason]

[gloomy chasm]

Wait, it's arts damage taken I think

[honest hill]

[rare zodiac]

no it susc my friend

[dry mason]

I'll wait for Rossi to cook Heat team with her

Not Antal

[honest hill]

@dry kindle u do it

[icy remnant]

Why Antal hate

[gloomy chasm]

It is plus a small arts amp or damage taken

[glass wind]

Whats the difference between All Damage vs ATK food buff?

[icy remnant]

Funny that Antal isn’t 12F

[icy remnant]

They’re separate modifiers

[proud vector]

Damage bracket

[icy remnant]

Damage goes together with all different damage%

And Attack goes together with all other Attack%

[proud vector]

Dmg% is a very large bracket full of big number

Atk% is mildly rarer and often less big number

So because 2x2>1x3, we want the buff in the bracket that is smol

[icy remnant]

Make it easier for them to sell us Attack% buffers

At least we don’t have crit dmg% on generic stuff

[glass wind]

Which buff is better? The ATK is just flat +180 or All DMG buff is 18%

w8 can u stack foods? i havent tried it yet.

[icy remnant]

Flat attack should be better
If you’re referring to Ginseng meat stew it also has crit tho

[glass wind]

Fortifying Infusion also has Crit rate too just 2% lower.

[icy remnant]

No

[glass wind]

Thought they would balance the food

[icy remnant]

Fortifying infusion is basically the budget version of meat stew

[glass wind]

oh its yellow rarity

[icy remnant]

It doesn’t cost meats and is fully farmable

[glass wind]

i didnt even realize it

[icy remnant]

Yea

[glass wind]

I only have ginseng plants

[icy remnant]

You’ll need to go around farming wolves for the meat though
Beside Hub base and around Power plateau

[glass wind]

Idk where i pick these up

[icy remnant]

Some people set up turrets around the wolf spawns to insta farm them

[glass wind]

Oh ive been farming those for another item i didnt realize other buff foods also needs it

[icy remnant]

The Tesla coils one shot the wolves pretty nicely

[glass wind]

Anyone use these?

[icy remnant]

That’s the disgustingly OP consumable

You use it to cheat out a trim medal with infinite ults

[glass wind]

I regret giving it too early to my chars when theyre not built properly yet

They eat it too fast

[icy remnant]

I mean you can farm it up pretty fast

I have a few hundred

[glass wind]

too lazy to go around map for meat. I havent even mark them

I just pick up if i pass them

[icy remnant]

Power plateau has a whole bunch

Just go and walk around and you’ll see em

And then put your Tesla coils there so they all die

[glass wind]

Wish we have Animal Farm factories

Yeah i put some but most of the time other people already have them there

[signal palm]

bruh im so close

pls good rng on essence etching

[icy remnant]

So close to what

[fresh trench]

i forgot to mention i doing solo 😭

[fresh trench]

million

[odd wren]

Dayum crit

[urban plaza]

Still waiting for LR team updates

[ocean turret]

I need more weapon pulls but i wanna save for rossi

[rare zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[modern pasture]

guys what do ya'll think of the story

[signal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/krispy-kreme-glazed-donuts-donuts-doughnuts-donut-day-gif-17585791

too much endmin glaze

[atomic kraken]

guys wdyt about the new cat

[wanton notch]

Okay, am I crazy or if you did get an attack you straight up immune to it for few seconds

Noticed at Rhodagn, after dodging flamethrower, I can like land 1-2 basic attacks without taking any damage while still getting roasted

[summer flower]

I let 7 pots run out of time

Ohh

[lime anchor]

actual story itself is very average
though i appreciate the surplus of animations

[pliant python]

which one is b etter for tangtang

[atomic kraken]

element damage increase because its upgrade overall damage

[chilly bolt]

its the same thing

i mean same type multiplier

and her main dmg is from her bs

[sour gazelle]

calcs is saying best personal dmg is bone 3 piece with a lynx slab

cannot escape that main attribute it's just too good

source:
https://b23.tv/hLxICiQ
https://b23.tv/a7nqm3u

[summer flower]

I wanna Rossi, so I don't pull on soup

But soup has nice running animations

Like stopping movement and wobbling after

[summer flower]

I knew bone gloves are huge

[chilly bolt]

same

but i pulled on soup

and i got soup

and still have enough to get rossi

[cinder oxide]

Holy shit my brother

[warped sorrel]

do level 60 upgrade world level to 8

[chilly bolt]

what?

[unique jungle]

Ril?

I just artificed some of it

Back to being poor

[warped sorrel]

are you confuse?

[chilly bolt]

slab when a new operator has int or will mainstat

[chilly bolt]

yes im confused, do you mean exploration level?

[warped sorrel]

yes i mean exploration level

[chilly bolt]

i found this on wiki if it helps

[warped sorrel]

nice

[unique jungle]

Tangtang is Agility and strength tho

[warped sorrel]

this doesn't asnwer me
if i got to level 60
would there be another exploration levels unlock

rn is 7

could it be 8

[chilly bolt]

you get 200 oroberyl

that's it

[sour gazelle]

if u already have a set artificed just keep using it, not worth all that investment
gonna be like laev using the new suit for a 6‰ increase

[chilly bolt]

and +2 sanity cap

[unique jungle]

That matters to me

[sour gazelle]

we're probably gonna get even more new gear next patch anyway

[unique jungle]

So its better even though it doesnt have the corresponding main and 2nd stats?

[sour gazelle]

yeah but the difference is miniscule and other sets could be better under specific circumstances depending on ur team and rotations

honestly not worth malding over

[chilly bolt]

artificing that redeemer chest is a pain in the ass

since it only has 2 stats

[sour gazelle]

the biggest advantage of lynx slab honestly is that u only need to artifice the main att

I'll just have it and a redeemer seal ready to switch

for bosses switch over to a more ult charge set to sync up ults

[honest hill]

is that fine for sub dps role as well at P0?

[sour gazelle]

depends on the team, since dmg gear tang2 ult gain isn't enough to sync up with other teammates
if ur running a Yvonne team it's better to go bone heavy armor + redeemer seal for smooth rotation
LR isn't that strict with cryo timing so bone heavy armor T2 + lynx slab also works, almost identical performance with different feels
I'd just have both ready since u only switch up 2 pieces plus u only artifice one stat for the seal and the slab, dmg gear for overworld and ult charge for bosses

[honest hill]

I only use LR

so

T2 + Lynx Slab

[sour gazelle]

dps set u use tang2 ult whenever u feel like it and ult charge u use it with all the other ults

that's it

[final plume]

did lae got a new bis?

[sour gazelle]

yeah the new redeemer armor

6‰ better over the old one

[honest hill]

if I wanted overworld and bosses I should stick w t2 + lynx slab right?

[final plume]

6% or 0.6%?

[honest hill]

[sour gazelle]

0.6%

[civic wolf]

is prydwen legit on this or nahhhh

[honest hill]

no one here uses prydwen

[chilly bolt]

me

[sour gazelle]

t2 + lynx tang deals more dmg but u won't have ult every time everyone else have ult

[honest hill]

[sour gazelle]

that's the only difference, just pick whichever fits ur playstyle more

[honest hill]

if I wanted ult everytime would the whole set change

[civic wolf]

i feel like i haven't gotten a good idea on what's this comp rotation should be

[chilly bolt]

prydwen gear view and teambuilder is pretty handy

[civic wolf]

like how do you get 2 watersprous for Tangtang

that isn't doing Xaihi skill twice

[sour gazelle]

want ult every time then u use regular bone heavy armor bone 3 piece + redeemer seal

[unique jungle]

#team-build message
This is my tt yv run

[honest hill]

so this one

[unique jungle]

Idk if its the most optimal

Since I dont dive atk

[honest hill]

oh wait

[sour gazelle]

this one

[unique jungle]

I try but It always seems to jump to rhodagn phase 2

[honest hill]

heavy armour

yeah imma just do slab then

[outer ermine]

[warped sorrel]

Prydwen is bad?

[sour gazelle]

slab and seal are both very universal so even if u don't like it u can always give it to someone else

[chilly bolt]

better than game8 at least

[honest hill]

yeah but armour tho

chest

it changes

icba

[sour gazelle]

the T2 armor is kinda expensive ngl

I'm using the regular heavy armor I artificed for endmin way back in the day

[honest hill]

I do wanna try mdps tt so

so build is like this then @sour gazelle

[sour gazelle]

yeah

[chilly bolt]

whats the team

[honest hill]

idr perli gilb xaihi I think?

yeah

[chilly bolt]

oh the big 3

[honest hill]

gilb do corro 4

biggg ult

[summer flicker]

oh wait this is p1 tt

i dont remember where my p0 tt mdps at

kekw

should be similar, but less combo

and -1 xaihi ult

[honest hill]

@sour gazelle which stats should I prio first to artifice

[honest hill]

can u whel for my p1

[sour gazelle]

kit 3rd stat > armor and hand 1st stat > hand 3rd stat and kit 1st stat

same goes for most gears

[honest hill]

when u mean kit 3rd stat u mean both of them right

[sour gazelle]

yeah

[honest hill]

okay I'll do that first

is there a good match for slab?

[lavish jay]

yvonne/tangtang/xiahi/perlica is the team right if dont have gilberta? then do i pull yvonne or tangtang wep?

[sour gazelle]

I don't think there is

[honest hill]

nvm there isn't

[sour gazelle]

(if there is one it would be higher main att so we would be using that instead)

[sour gazelle]

tang if u have wedge, otherwise yvonne imo

[sterile patrol]

Btw Im curious who do you recommend w/o Gilberta for DPS Tang?

[summer flicker]

im broke

[summer flicker]

i guess either akekuri(idk if her link buff tornado, or ardelia(a bjt of sp issue but ok)

[lavish jay]

then xiahi and perlica uses what?

[honest hill]

smh

[sterile patrol]

thought so nice

can use perl bskill for big elec ig since we lose corrosion

[chilly bolt]

if no gil then it's just the old lr team with tang instead of lr

[summer flicker]

but ye, gilb is kinda important in tangtang mdps

the 5s sus but also the lvl 4 corrosion

[sour gazelle]

chivalric and stanza

[summer flicker]

det is <1% better than chilvaric iirc, stanza is mainstay ofc

[sterile patrol]

[lavish jay]

ok just to double confirm, wedge yvonne, pull tangtang wep, xiahi is chivalric, and stanza on perlica right?

[summer flicker]

well sadly you also neeed gilb sig in tt mdps team

because you want to ai gear for gilb

[sterile patrol]

yea the ult% on sig is really nice here

[chilly bolt]

but i spent all my arsenal on tang sig

[sour gazelle]

yeah, (and as the other person said det can be slightly better but imo chivalric is smoother for daily use)

[chilly bolt]

rip gil sig

[summer flicker]

like sig literally cover all gilb cost in this rotation

kekw

[lavish jay]

wait i dont have chivalric, what do i use then 🙁

[echo cove]

say, how big is 135 atk?

[sour gazelle]

detonation

[echo cove]

what's daily use?

nodes r just ult spam these days

overworld stuff u just bring food that heals u

[summer flicker]

daily use is 2 tangtang skill and everything dies

[sour gazelle]

chivalric procs for every heal, det procs on arts burst

[echo cove]

or just spam all ult if nodes

[echo cove]

det give like +5% amp or sth for ult

chiv is only whatever that 3rd stat do

[lavish jay]

omg i dont have it either wtf 🙁

[echo cove]

freedom is a bad budget weapon for xaihi

if u want to use it, just keep it at l40 max

then swap to deto after u get it

[lavish jay]

this is what i have lol fml

[sour gazelle]

it's < 1% diff so whatever I have chivalric on xiahi mainly cuz det is on antal so no need to switch

[summer flicker]

use arde sig kekw

wit for gilb right, orfor xaihi

xaihi can arde sig for smart xaihi

[chilly bolt]

you didnt pick deto from the beginner weapon box?

[echo cove]

what 1% dif? i get if u use chiv for convenience. but the amp dif is huge cos xaihi w proper build losing det's sec at% is like losing 5% amp

[echo cove]

feels like sum ppl took thermite?

[lavish jay]

oh i have it there

wtf

lol

ok

[echo cove]

oh

[chilly bolt]

no it's the different one

[summer flicker]

you trolling

[echo cove]

yeah grab that

[summer flicker]

kekw

[outer ermine]

if anyone is grinding ruan, can u sc all phase 2 ball start tymuch

[chilly bolt]

atk% is busted, and chiv uptime is like twice higher

so it evens out

[echo cove]

do we actually have ppl testing that to back the claim?

[chilly bolt]

welp yes you can ask hifumi and schling

[echo cove]

i can understand the notion that atk% is better

[honest hill]

@summer flicker @sour gazelle good stats

missing 10% attack from essence

[sour gazelle]

damn I don't have the mats to max her yet

[summer flicker]

holy 800 agi

[summer flicker]

😭 , i need to max artifice

maygidead

[sterile patrol]

aura

[honest hill]

I will prob touch that as well

[summer flicker]

and max essence too

[honest hill]

maybe

[echo cove]

@outer ermine @uneven vale this true?

context: deto vs chiv on xaihi

atk% is busted, and chiv uptime is like twice higher
so it evens out

[honest hill]

my essence is 6 4 2 rn

[chilly bolt]

i think that's the wrong schling

[summer flicker]

[echo cove]

eh?

which schling

[lavish jay]

ok pulled her wep already >.<

[summer flicker]

im at 4 6 3 rn im cooked

[echo cove]

💀

[uneven vale]

Wrong one xd

[sour gazelle]

[echo cove]

mb man

[chilly bolt]

@frozen tide

[echo cove]

thx

[sterile patrol]

the attribute diff is factored into calcs

[signal palm]

topaz has joined us, there are now three da pan glazers

our numbers are growing

[cinder oxide]

Yey

For the great Pan

[signal palm]

for da pan

[echo cove]

i wonder why ppl rn't just using ult charge food for trim speedrun

not like u get hit at all anw

[cinder oxide]

Cant eat midbattle no?

[echo cove]

can

ult charge, not ult gain

it eat after u use ult

depletion 4 uses

[dry kindle]

because fuck you cant be bothered farming it

[echo cove]

unless u r like yvone or lr which just spam ult n be done w it, i reckon it's worth the farm

[cinder oxide]

Pausing the timer to eat food is a pain

[echo cove]

slug is farmable on the 1st essence node. meat is the kinda annoying one but u should alr have a farm if u farm for ginseng stew

[echo cove]

it's a held item

[cinder oxide]

Oh what

[echo cove]

if u don't need 1000 healing, just slap em instead

[cinder oxide]

Does it always activate

[echo cove]

i just trimmed marble w that

[echo cove]

...

[cinder oxide]

I dont need it to trim is the thing

Unless Im going for speedruns again

[echo cove]

me neither, i just prefer spamming ult

[cinder oxide]

Its a waste of time

To farm

[echo cove]

i spammed xaihi ult back to back on marble phase 2

so i had 0 downtime on ult

for both ult n cs

perlica's ult also

[icy remnant]

It feels like cheating

[sour gazelle]

my marble is bugged rn and it has "first time clear reward" in the menu

[icy remnant]

Ult charge food is so busted it honestly crosses a line for me

[echo cove]

u r eating food anw, why bother w it cheating or not?

[sour gazelle]

but no rewards when I clear it

[echo cove]

i mean speedrun that finishes in 10s don

't need it

[icy remnant]

It’s personal preference
Ult charge food is so disgusting that it straight up ignores gear building around Ult regen

[echo cove]

fair enuf

[icy remnant]

At least buff damage foods doesn’t change the way you play the game

[echo cove]

true

[gritty olive]

is there some pre release cook for gilbertaless rossi

[icy remnant]

But yea nothings stopping you from shifting your gear to full damage no Ult efficiency and just spamming Ult charge food
It’s just a whole different game and not fun

For me anyways

[echo cove]

fair, yeah

i can understand the sentiment

[icy remnant]

Crafting Ult efficient rotation was the fun part

[echo cove]

it's like overleveling ur pokemon b4 a gym fight issue. u can do that but it kinda takes away since u just end up spamming the same move without getting the challenge i guess

[icy remnant]

No it’s not overleveling it’s fundamentally different

[echo cove]

i was ilustrating it using pokemon as a reference

[icy remnant]

It’s like equipping an item that changes the Pokémon’s typing to ignore ever needing to swap different elements

Cus you just bandaid it

[echo cove]

that don't exist

[icy remnant]

It doesn’t exist for a good reason

[echo cove]

well this food exist

u can use it

my point is

imagine using l100 pokemon on ur 1st gym

[icy remnant]

It’s not that it makes it “too easy”

It’s that it’s not the same game

[echo cove]

hmm

[icy remnant]

A game where you straight up ignore building around Ult energy

[echo cove]

i mean idk, it sounds kinda similar

[icy remnant]

And just mash

It deletes the strategic part of the game

[echo cove]

yeah, same as a l100 would not care shit for what move u slap on it, it'll just kill all the pokemon of that gym

[echo cove]

overleveling in pokemon can do that as well

[icy remnant]

I mean u can spam Ult efficiency foods on low leveled team and they will still struggle in damage

Just they don’t care about any rotations

It fundamentally alters the game

[echo cove]

it doesn't matter rly. the point is that it takes away from the game's enjoyment

we can agree on that, no?

[icy remnant]

Yea just diff reasons

But Ult spam foods on super low leveled team is straight unfun as well

The difficulty isn’t the issue

[echo cove]

it is an endgame perk

[icy remnant]

It just turns into a button mash simulator

[echo cove]

i kinda disagree w that cos it can create a new rotation altogether

it just will be dif from no energy rotation

whether it is more fun or not, well that's not the point

[icy remnant]

A rotation that involves getting 32% Ult energy every 2s with the 8% per team member?

Bro

[echo cove]

can we pause a lil there

what do u count as rotation hyere

here*

is it where u strategically use ur skill in the timeline?

or is it the build involved to make it work?

[icy remnant]

There’s no rotation with 32% Ult regen per 2 seconds

[icy remnant]

Both

[echo cove]

gotcha

[echo cove]

this is doable w the food regardless

[echo cove]

this won't cos honestly there's no reason to minmax that

[icy remnant]

The condition for the 8% is the unit themselves being under 50% so you just straight up spam non stop in a cycle between 4 units
Ult into Ult into Ult into Ult into Ult into Ult into Ult into Ult

Until the boss dies

[echo cove]

any ult charge work if u have enuf food

[icy remnant]

Is that your idea of a strategic rotation

[warped sorrel]

has anyone cook rossi rotation

[echo cove]

8x4 is 32x4 is 128? at best 2 ult cycle.

[echo cove]

think of it moreso as a jumpstart for the rotation

besides who's to say 8% is the most optimal?

[icy remnant]

The boss is dead

[echo cove]

not all boss

[icy remnant]

Anyways it fundamentally alters the game to the point where it’s not the same

You can enjoy it if you want I won’t

[echo cove]

i mean, i get that u don't like it cos it doesn't fit ur playstyle. but it feels to me u r arguing abt it without even trying it out urself

[icy remnant]

I did it for my first trim medal

I didn’t even know what I was doing

[echo cove]

not that am forcing u to, but the claim that it alter the game is kinda weird

[icy remnant]

Never gonna do it again

[echo cove]

sure i guess

it's not like ppl who spam 10s on rho need these food. triangelos also prolly won't need much of it. marble u can ult burst the 2nd phase i guess. the new boss suck anw

[unreal light]

@drifting quest Hi, Shuo! Do you know by any chance what are Rossi sig stats?

[chilly bolt]

you can do some digging to find out

[echo cove]

if i have to guess, agi int or int agi

[unreal light]

||Agi/cr/fracture||, I suppose

[chilly bolt]

ye lol literally glorious but fracture

[echo cove]

[main nova]

agi/int trust

since she endmind simps

follow her path

[glass birch]

What're the stats for the cuprium Mi security pieces? Just agi?

[drifting quest]

Nothing but the 1.0 datamine

[unreal light]

Yeah I was asking right about that, cause you knew the right stats for TT

I’ve found them out, ty

[drifting quest]

It could have changed obviously but it seems basically confirmed now

[drifting quest]

Weekly Weapon Rotation
Week 1 - Oblivion (Current) (Second Appearance)
Week 2 - ||Rapid Ascent (First Appearance)||
Week 3 - ||Clannibal (Second Appearance)||
Week 4 - ||Valiant (Second Appearance)||
Week 5 - ||Exemplar (First Appearance)||

[trim cipher]

Wow this chen build is the exact opposite of iana's spreadsheet. Which is this. What do I build now? My Chen already has artificed set (although not fully artificed)

[chilly bolt]

still no deto

[summer flicker]

knew it, ignore valiant is good

[drifting quest]

||THREE repeats when 5 weapons have not appeared once is brutal||

[odd wren]

My set is artificed

Dont need if d to follow mine lol

[trim cipher]

Yeah but if it's %20 better that's kinda big

[odd wren]

Really depends sin e you're removing a lot of atagger on your comp

[trim cipher]

my team is da pan-lifeng-poggers-chen

[proud vector]

it feels like the shop is dangling hope in front of your face in an atrempt to wear down your self control over time

without strong saver instinct people will def vibe pull lmfao

[drifting quest]

its frankly pretty baffling logic

[proud vector]

i think thats the point, being unpredictable

making it so you can never depend on it showing good weapons

no pattern to be found

[drifting quest]

at least I think ||rascent|| will still be in shop when we find out about rossi sig, or id hope, so its less bait

[urban plaza]

is there info on daily 5* rotation too?
need more Stanza

[drifting quest]

daily rot loops

i keep missing days

[urban plaza]

i haven't gotten a single one from weapon pulls, but pot5 for others...
it's so ass

[drifting quest]

need to find and compare to someone elses

[trim cipher]

Is it worth getting sundering dupes from arsenal for chen? I'd very much rather save them for a limited dps

[drifting quest]

if you chase bp weapon instead there's 0 reason to grab sundering dupes

[urban plaza]

Rossi BP weapon looks kinda good

at least compared to other BPs

[honest hill]

@summer flicker

[trim cipher]

bp weapon better than sundering?

[warped sorrel]

Finally some good weapon

[drifting quest]

varies based on assumptions but p3 bp weapon can beat p5 sundering in iana's assumptions

[urban plaza]

i mean there is no other BP so far worth getting

[trim cipher]

bro there's no way I'm gonna buy bp thrice in this cheap ass game lmfao

I won't spend a dime until I see some improvements

[drifting quest]

freemium bp you need to wait till what 1.4

paid bp you only need to buy one

[trim cipher]

I already got the first upgrade with oroberyls

originum thingies

[warped sorrel]

But it look cooler than sundering tho

[trim cipher]

Don't care

[drifting quest]

freemium is 1 box per patch
paid is 2 boxes, 2 potentials per patch

[trim cipher]

WuWa upcoming banners are insane and that game deserves my money

[warped sorrel]

And i dont think they gonna make anything like 20% more powerful anytime soon

[honest hill]

true

[trim cipher]

unlike hypergreed with their fomo inducing banners and limited tickets and pity disappearing after a banner

[drifting quest]

the less you spend on any gacha the better

[trim cipher]

I pay for monthly only for WuWa and I have %90 of the characters I wanted

cannot say the same for Endfield

[drifting quest]

congrats to you

im not sure the relevance not the pushing for tribalism but congrats

[urban plaza]

can you stop whining in theorycrafting lol
just drop the game, if you think its shit

[trim cipher]

not tribalism, just saying there is no need to pay for the bp multiple times

[warped sorrel]

You good at holding it in lmao

I could never

[trim cipher]

when I pay for the bp that means I get the weapon at R1 right?

R2 sorry

[drifting quest]

1 paid bp lets you get up to 4 copies of a weapon, or p3

[trim cipher]

Sundering looks like ahh but it's a really good f2p/low spender weapon tbh

hmm

[warped sorrel]

Max P3 per 1 bp

[drifting quest]

or i should correct that

you get 2 boxes, to redeem weapons, and 2 tokens

[trim cipher]

god damn it I shouldn't have wasted my hard earned arsenal tickets on sundering dupes

[drifting quest]

tokens can be used in place of weapon copies for potentials

tokens save so you could use 1.0 bp tokens on 1.1 bp weapons

or you could save 1.1 bp tokens for 1.2 bp weapon, etc

[warped sorrel]

I might lose more arsenal ticket on upcoming shop 6star weapon rotation

[drifting quest]

enough for 2 bp's > 1 p5
or 3 bp's > 1 p5 if you want to save boxes

[urban plaza]

which of them do you even want?

[drifting quest]

i get to save till 1.2 myself

[urban plaza]

isnt the only decent one ascent?

[drifting quest]

all the weapons i would buy are not this patch

[warped sorrel]

claymore

[urban plaza]

?

[trim cipher]

Yeah but probably going for dupes of a 5* character's weapon wasn't the smartest idea

[summer flicker]

wtffff

[odd wren]

No idea bruh sorry im not using that comp atm

[trim cipher]

anyway I will be on saving mode until Mi Fu/Leek pants waifu so I guess I'll be alright

[odd wren]

Yeah just save xd

[honest hill]

what kind of reaction is that

[summer flicker]

bro cheated 200sp

[lilac bloom]

god i hope zhuang is 2nd half of 1.2 or beyond

[summer flicker]

[honest hill]

lmao

[lilac bloom]

im destitute

[honest hill]

just use ur card

[summer flicker]

[honest hill]

is it good dmg

[summer flicker]

ig

[lilac bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241909862837780550/1251347112281768029/caption.gif

[summer flicker]

havent done my rot

but look pretty good dmg

[lilac bloom]

i need to actually try and tc smth

[honest hill]

but card fixes everything

[honest hill]

u have P3 u can kill it

[summer flicker]

i need max artificed stuff

and max tt weapon

[honest hill]

mine is not maxed

lol

6 4 2

@summer flicker "kit 3rd stat > armor and hand 1st stat > hand 3rd stat and kit 1st stat" i did all this except hand 3rd stat

[warped sorrel]

If i asking for datamine data
Would that be ok or nono

[trim cipher]

Is there a consensus on 1.1 Physical gearing so far? Or should I just follow Iana's updated spreadsheet?

[drifting quest]

iana's should be fine but as always it could change

[trim cipher]

Like Chen gearing differs wildly between iana's spreadsheet and CN TCs

[drifting quest]

should be fine

what's CNbros on

i havent seen anything super divergent

[summer flicker]

[warped sorrel]

How do i find cn spreasheet

[summer flicker]

i dont have any artificed for perlica and gilb

[warped sorrel]

I wanna have a look

[summer flicker]

maybe i try that when i got home

im outside touching grass rn

[warped sorrel]

For hoyo game the TC dmg testing is very quick
Like it very fast to know which is better and which is not
What make it different in endfield

[summer flicker]

sp bar

[trim cipher]

In Hoyo games we have mostly one BiS set for each character, in Endfield we have much more build variety, at least that's how it feels like to me

Same for WuWa

[summer flicker]

gear is dependent on rotation

somewhat

[warped sorrel]

So too many playable rotation

[summer flicker]

yes

[trim cipher]

gearing is probably the easiest in this game so it doesn't take an arm and leg to switch to a new set like it does in other gacha

[drifting quest]

hoyo games are very homogenous builds, it's easier to make rots for, etc

[trim cipher]

unless you maxed out artificing, then you are fucked

like me rn

[warped sorrel]

I did

Im guessing they will keep releasing better gear

solid

[trim cipher]

It will get kinda annoying if we have to switch to a new set every patch

catalysts are expensive

[honest hill]

I don't have any on either, P4 stanza + P2 Deto + P0 Gilb Sig

[warped sorrel]

i think they gotta find a way to make us spend more material due to it has guaranteed and very clear ending

keep releasing better gear -> more difficult enemy

So powercreep would be easier to control

Cause they dont have to make new operator has more stat

[urban plaza]

they will start introducing bosses with element resistance

so people need multiple teams for different elements or suffer

[drifting quest]

unlikely that we get new components every patch

[urban plaza]

and thus players spent resources

[drifting quest]

they already have

[urban plaza]

without actual powercreep

[drifting quest]

2 bosses have resistances

[urban plaza]

yeah, but in a way you actually feel it xd

[drifting quest]

triagg and ruan yi both have res

[warped sorrel]

res to what

Heat?

[urban plaza]

yi to physical, i think

[drifting quest]

yi is elec nature

triagg is phys fire nature

[trim cipher]

lmao so only ice can beat triagg?

[drifting quest]

no?

[warped sorrel]

i doesnt feel it tho

[drifting quest]

its 20%

susc exists too

[trim cipher]

I'll try trimming it with my physical today

my laev team feels much weaker than my physical for some reaon

reason*

[drifting quest]

physical has been trimming through 20% res since day 1 at level 60

[trim cipher]

everyone except laev feels like filler in that team comp

[urban plaza]

yeah they need to do something like 80% resist
but its still early release so its fine, if they take it somewhat slow

[warped sorrel]

hope they make 99% res to all elements and sell operator whose give sus 120% to all element🙏

[urban plaza]

or introduce bosses that needs 2 teams by default

[trim cipher]

that sounds kinda sus

[warped sorrel]

Just like what they did in G

https://tenor.com/view/elysia-loves-skirk-skirk-ultimate-burst-skirk-ultimate-animation-skirk-leaks-genshin-leaks-gif-7252081029891882883

[odd wren]

Dont really need to cha ge if you already maxed xd

[trim cipher]

after finishing with physical team I don't want to raise another team lol that was hella expensive

[urban plaza]

i have Lae and LR/TT team maxed
gonna wait for 1.2 now with electric

[potent hornet]

physical requires much more investment than most other teams

[odd wren]

Physical is the most expensive ngl hahaba

[trim cipher]

yeah. Triple dps and stuff

[warped sorrel]

I hope endgame require 10 team

[odd wren]

Ouch

[trim cipher]

Endgame will require max dupe characters with their maxed out weapons

[urban plaza]

[warped sorrel]

It cost so little time and investment compare to some game to max out characters

[trim cipher]

non physical team player spotted

quad dps says hello

[warped sorrel]

I only max dapan

[trim cipher]

based and panda pilled

[warped sorrel]

He is the fat one

[urban plaza]

how do you even get grand vision dupes?

[warped sorrel]

he must hit the hardest

[odd wren]

Iykyk

[trim cipher]

I used my selector on P1 Lifeng

I love shredding bosses

[warped sorrel]

i use it for pog

[trim cipher]

nothing more satisfying in this game than a max vuln stacked+ breached da pan bonk

[warped sorrel]

he can breach me anywhere he want

[odd wren]

I feel like im gonna lose rossi 50/50

To get pog to p5

[urban plaza]

🤔

[odd wren]

[odd wren]

https://tenor.com/view/card-flip-swipe-pay-wut-checkout-gif-11170560

[summer flicker]

i need you to wish me lose to tangtang in the next two banne

im too broke 😭

[urban plaza]

but you only could buy the pack 1 time, no?

[odd wren]

P3 to p5?

[odd wren]

Roll on banner

[warped sorrel]

Isnt it also in the shop rotation?

[odd wren]

Get a 6* to p5

Get purple token

Buy them gv dupe

[urban plaza]

ah, must have missed that then

[odd wren]

In purple token shop

[summer flicker]

p4 to p5

😭

[warped sorrel]

I use sunder on my endmin

[odd wren]

Oh hoh

[urban plaza]

oof

[odd wren]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-meme-aggressive-gif-26375097

[urban plaza]

thanks for funding the game

[warped sorrel]

because i wont

eventhough i already did..

[drifting berry]

I almost always see that both Chen and Endmin are included into any physical team. Do we have any idea of which character will be on Rossi's teams? Asking because I got 0 physical characters build and I was wondering if there was anyone I could invest from now to prepare.

[unreal light]

Gilberta and Akekuri

[urban plaza]

you dont need to invest to prepare
just hoard materials

[unreal light]

Cause her main idea revolves around pyro ult and pyro crit talent

[urban plaza]

and wait, which is the hardest part

[cinder oxide]

Yessssssssur

57.6k xiranite coming up

[urban plaza]

stock up on trash essence to etch
proto for skills
some exp to lvl 1 or 2 units to 80/90

credits

[drifting berry]

Yeah, mainly asking because I don't know how many character I'll need to build for hwe. but yeah for now I'll save enough to max out 2 character.

[urban plaza]

Endmin will very likely stay a staple for physical teams
good unit right now and still 3 potentials to unlock

[warped sorrel]

Tangtang warehouse

[urban plaza]

Pog also very good
so most likely Chen or Lifeng will go

[cinder oxide]

I legit only stopped cos I hit the facility cap for WL city

[warped sorrel]

Worst decision form hg ever to cap out everything

[tight haven]

lifeng is not leaving phys

if youre theorizing that lifeng is leaving phys then your priors would validate ANYONE leaving phys

lifeng is as irreplaceable as pog and you feel the difference strongly if ever you go without him

[warped sorrel]

what if lifeng 2.0 come

[drifting quest]

b-but ember teams drop lifeng

therefore lifeng must be the most replaceable

!!

[tight haven]

yeah if you think lifeng is gonna get booted then you're basically going "well anyone could be powercrept"

hes the least "replaceable" in terms of things he does for the team

[trim cipher]

Lifeng is not leaving phys anytime soon. Chen is the closest candidate, after that maybe Endmin or Da Pan

[drifting berry]

Honestly I should read this whole thing, I have never touch a physical character since I first reached power plateau

No idea how they work or what Lifeng even does

[drifting quest]

endmin/dapan is the most replacable right now because duh there's 2 units for one slot

[warped sorrel]

rossi physical team doesnt need lifeng right?

[drifting quest]

chen is a close second

rossi physical team is likely FORCED to drop lifeng, but it really does not want to drop lifeng

[trim cipher]

rossi is a brand new phys/fire hybrid team

[warped sorrel]

striker and caster feel like the most replaceable role to me

[tight haven]

rossi is just weird because shes definitionally her own team

doesnt seem to comfortably "replace" anyone in anything

any team rossi is in, becomes a "rossi team"

[trim cipher]

Sounds kinda f2p friendly

[warped sorrel]

Rossi replacing my heart seem like a powercreep to me

[trim cipher]

but I'm sure I'll be proven wrong

[tight haven]

maybe maybe

[drifting quest]

less f2p friendly than say laev

because of how much it appears rossi wants to have gilb

[urban plaza]

why couldnt Rossi be a heat unit and replace Akekuri/Antal...

[tight haven]

she needs to have very good personal damage

otherwise shes just going to be a unit you use rn for funny comps

[warped sorrel]

Rossi is the new team who doesnt anyone from previous banner

[drifting quest]

she wants gilb

[warped sorrel]

Get out of here gilb nobody love you

[tight haven]

though ofc this could always be proven wrong

[drifting quest]

per current understanding yeah

[urban plaza]

also new new team will be around electric I assume

[tight haven]

maybe theres post-release tech thats discovered

[warped sorrel]

Shoo

[trim cipher]

yeah laev is super f2p friendly

but her team feels very mid compared to other meta teams because of that

[tight haven]

laev is the best pull ever so far yeah

you get her and you have a completely free team out the gate in wulf/ake or antal/ardelia

[trim cipher]

like nobody except laev is doing any damage in that team, meanwhile in my meta physical, it's a free for all

[warped sorrel]

Firat character in gacha game always

[trim cipher]

like a friggin bar fight

[warped sorrel]

bad

[trim cipher]

Except for Jiyan

[warped sorrel]

who

[trim cipher]

can still clear endgame ez pz

[trim cipher]

WuWa first banner character

[tight haven]

waiting on those pass levels

[warped sorrel]

I thought wuwa eos mb

[tight haven]

i wanna p5 memory already

[trim cipher]

I want p5 da pan. I'm so close to greatness

[drifting quest]

im not gonna p5 this patch

want to save the box

2nd box

just in case

[tight haven]

fair

im p5ing it bc i cba to wait for p5 ascent

especially when it might not even be better than p5 glorious

[drifting quest]

it isnt anyway is it

i thought calcs were out

[tight haven]

last i checked it was still up in the air

[drifting quest]

||rascent is in shop this week too, fwiw if you are close||

[tight haven]

i think its still too early to tell until tested and optimized rotations are out and not just calcs based on existing rotations

oh yeah

[cinder oxide]

Yo guys

Theyre refunding bills if u crafted redeemer hands

[tight haven]

???????????????????????

just hands?

wtf

[cinder oxide]

Also this

[tight haven]

did they cost more than 16k bills or something

[warped sorrel]

bruh what

[potent hornet]

yea that is weird

[warped sorrel]

people hate it?

[gritty briar]

why just the hands?

was something different about them?

[lilac bloom]

what the rossi wep?

[tight haven]

yes

its like

insanely good for chen

potentially worse than p5 rascent still but like who the actual fuck has p5 rascent besides whales

(not even i have it because it refuses to fucking show up anywhere)

[lilac bloom]

wait what

[potent hornet]

that is a pretty shop

[lilac bloom]

sorry im reacting to multuple things

[lilac bloom]

this is why i wanted to grab the bp wep, i hadn't considered the rossi banner wep but i feel like it'll have some weird trigger like consuming combustion or applying phys susc that chen cant use anyways

from what i saw, p2 glorious was edging out p2 rascent

according to one person's post

and glorious wasnt yet maxed out

[summer flicker]

[potent hornet]

yea i never got Rapid Ascent either, the bp weapon actually opens up phys for me as i only really have Exemplar and Thermite

[summer flicker]

ra is useless now lmao

[lilac bloom]

tbh thats all you need 😭 as nice as mountain bearer could be i dont think li feng rly needs it and chen on a p5 sundering is like better than rascent at p2

[wild dust]

😯

[urban plaza]

the most useless thing is 1st BP crate

[lilac bloom]

valiant is also very good for him and chimeric works outside of 6* weps and you get 1 for free

yeah laev wants her sig rly badly, gilberta can use stanza rly well and her sig is also solid while the bp is just personal damage

[potent hornet]

Lifeng is the only op i don't have 🙁

[lilac bloom]

navigator apparently want too too low of a dmg diff but it doesnt seem that crazg

blaze can replace lifeng if you have her

[summer flicker]

bp is worse than stanza

[potent hornet]

if i ever get the basic selector i will grab him off that

[summer flicker]

[lilac bloom]

for a lot of teams yeah 😭

[chilly bolt]

Would you pick opus or nav

[lilac bloom]

i dont regret it bc i get to run goofy sets and my stanza is p0 but meh

[cinder oxide]

So yeah its weird fr

[lilac bloom]

nav 💀

[warped sorrel]

i wonder if i get everyday in the shop how much would i have in a month

[lilac bloom]

wtf

[chilly bolt]

But wedge exists

[lilac bloom]

there are accounts without wedge

[potent hornet]

time to craft a crapton of them to consume

[lilac bloom]

the other 2 are just genuinely not worth it feels like

[potent hornet]

then get a refund for the parts

[lilac bloom]

bc laev rly wants her sig for ult uptime

that sounds like way more value to me

and gilberta might get funny set options down the line

bc right now xiranite is almost too much energy?

idk if thats rly true though

[chilly bolt]

I find opus is quite funny for overworld

[lilac bloom]

fair

[chilly bolt]

Gil nuking people

With hotwork

And slab

[tight haven]

oh lmfao

[lilac bloom]

its probably the actual best just bc navigator can be replaced by 3 different weapons

1st bp crate was just so chuddy

[wild dust]

How many per purchase from shop ? I managed to have 2 Oroberyl items the same day :0

[cinder oxide]

Usually u get between 3~4 of either oro or arsenal

[lilac bloom]

hmmm

[warped sorrel]

max is 4

[cinder oxide]

Assuming its 50/50

[lilac bloom]

maybe i should give this a try sometime

[cinder oxide]

You're looking at around 1.3k oros per month

[lilac bloom]

i still have a bp 1 crate i havent opened

[cinder oxide]

And 1.05k arsenals

[lilac bloom]

fuck its bleak

[cinder oxide]

This assuming ave you roll is 1.75 per day in a month

[lilac bloom]

oh wait you mean the credit shop

[wild dust]

I feel like it's 75/25 Arsenal/Oroberyl

[cinder oxide]

Equal ish imo

[lilac bloom]

the arsenal tickets are decent value arent they

[cinder oxide]

I consistently have 2k credit days

[lilac bloom]

considering how much you get compared to oroberyls

[lilac bloom]

holy

[cinder oxide]

Lowest I have per day is 1.4k

That's only if I dont get enough for clue exchange

[lilac bloom]

how are you getting that 😭

[cinder oxide]

Consistent trading clues

[lilac bloom]

max friend list?

[chilly bolt]

Yeah arsenal is more value than oroberyl

[cinder oxide]

+400 for starting exchange +300 for 20 friends +>210 for swapping clues

This alone is most of my credit income

[lilac bloom]

u get like 20 arsenal tickets which is like 3 digits worth of oroberyls compared to 25 oroberyls

[cinder oxide]

Then do the extra deliveries for 90

And pray people sell to u for 60

And 300 daily for free

And 350 daily for assists

[wild dust]

You tend to have more affinity with Oroberyl than me lol , I get to have 3 Arsenal occurences for 1 Oroberyl , which isn't that bad, considering the 6 ⭐ weapon system 😔