theorycrafting

[warped sorrel]

wait a minute

[proud vector]

Now that I think about it we don’t have a physical gun user

can we get a physical gun user

Pew pew

[drifting berry]

probably the worse thing you can wish to someone, being a handcannon user kinda sucks

[warped sorrel]

We need a sniper operator

Make them hit slower than claymore

[proud vector]

Ak47 spray them

[valid palm]

Just got around to updating Tangtang's numbers

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gzrq0Uj86TP0oXb5Qb5wt6WNwNMXekmuA_mjYMeFUC0/edit?gid=1414353090#gid=1414353090

Same SP as Wulf and Chen

(also technically Ardelia but we don't talk about Ardelia's basics)

[normal tangle]

wait this would lowk be fire

[proud vector]

Jessicat upscale?!

[daring dove]

I mean I think Tangtang is up there with Gilberta in terms of pull value to be honest. That said Gilberta does have a better F2P weapon choice.

[drifting berry]

Iana is working

[valid palm]

Eh, I dunno. Gilberta is a lot more versatile

[signal palm]

yo are you the guldden with endmin videos on youtube

[valid palm]

I love Tangtang but I'm not sure how high her value is outside of Cryo

[warped sorrel]

I got gilb in lae banner
even if i dont i wont be pulling gilb neither

when endgame isnt out yet it quit problematic to think who to pull

[terse raptor]

yeah thats me

[daring dove]

One thing I have noticed is Tangtang is up there with Laevatain in terms of clearing out trash in the overworld when she's properly built.

Something Yvonne & Last Rite don't do nearly as well.

[neat snow]

Tangtang is fun to play.. Haven't got a chance to p5 yet I'll pull this weekend

[daring dove]

Her damage is so extremely front-loaded honestly. Where Yvonne as Last Rite take an age to build up for their big hits. Tangtang takes 0.5 seconds.

[neat snow]

Yeah I played the story and kept switching to her when it let me. She's high tempo

[drifting berry]

Did they nerf overworld mobs this ptach by any chance, it feels that everything dies to quick and I'm not sure if it TT alone?

[valid palm]

also a perfect implementation of dive mechanics

[daring dove]

Naw pretty sure that's just Tangtang being her.

[valid palm]

They would have to add some nutty gigabuffs to a dive character if they wanted them to be viable, due to the way the combat revolves around getting to your FS

So incorporating dive attacks by having it trigger another effect once instead of spam is cool

Plus it makes the big wave on her ult that much more satisfying

[fast ledge]

so there is

1. Arts Damage dealt buff
2. Arts Suspectibility
3. Attack

which is from this 3 more valuable / important ?

[gritty briar]

If the numbers are the same, you want whichever you have less of.
Usually it would be susceptibility and then attack as the rarest

[frigid vector]

all comes down to saturation

dmg dealt is very saturated usually though

and sus has very few sources as you can't get from gear

so usually you'd see sus > atk > dmg dealt but this changes depending on your team, skill levels, weapon/gear etc

there's also dmg taken

which is a separate multi applied to the enemy and that's a big deal too

[fast ledge]

dmg taken and suspectibility is different?

[frigid vector]

ya

[gritty briar]

also amp if we're just listing off every buff/debuff

[fast ledge]

is there a fformula damage ?

[frigid vector]

yup, amp is another too

[drifting quest]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.xeacn84zq953

[dry kindle]

also electrify breach and corrosion

[fast ledge]

damage amp?

[frigid vector]

electrify should be dmg taken right?

corrosion is resistance which is another multi

[gritty briar]

electrify and breach are just damage taken debuffs, listed under fragility in the sheet

[whole slate]

I have a theory. The next "gimmick" for the factory in the next full region will either be Air/Fire, or Wood/Metal/Fire. More likely the first. We've had Earth and Water, which are two of both Paracelsus' Elemental interactions/building blocks, and the Chinese Traditional Elements of the Dao. It goes Earth beating Water beating Fire beating Metal beating Wood beating Earth. But Fire turns into Earth (ashes from Wood, likely, or maybe magma/lava), Earth becomes Metal (magma forming into obsidian, which was known to have a sharp edge), Metal becomes Water for whatever reason, buckets of water, maybe, or liquid metal? Water feeds wood, which then feeds the fire.

The reason I think it's the former, Paracelsus' Elemental building blocks, though, is because it's simpler to turn that into a gimmick. Wind powered mining rigs, and lava powered refineries are what my brain came up with.

[noble tapir]

This team feels pretty good honestly

[dry kindle]

Corrosion being additive is gonna be so bullshit when we get a corro support

[whole slate]

But I guess this is the wrong kind of theory crafting, lol.

[drifting berry]

Question, does saturation even matter? Like isn't everything just multiplicative and has long has you get the high number everything should be okay?

[frigid vector]

think about it like this

what's bigger

[dry kindle]

Multi makes it matter even more

[frigid vector]

1 x 2.5
or
1 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5

one is 150% increase

[gritty briar]

it matters a lot for something like damage dealt buffs cause sometimes you have like +200% of it already

[drifting quest]

the more you have of a stat the more you have to further pump that stat to get the same benefit as putting less into another bracket

[frigid vector]

the other is 3 x 50% increases

[noble tapir]

Ruan Yi is surprisingly Rhodagn-like. Kinda just lets you hit him for the most part. Kind of surprising

[frigid vector]

the first is just 2.5, the second is 3.375

they multiply off each other

so it's better to get your "150%" spread across multiple stats rather than just fueling a single stat

[drifting berry]

I see, got it

[frigid vector]

the fixed increase is the same, but the proportionate increase is lower over previous

[drifting quest]

1 x 1.1 x 1.1 = 1.21
so 10% of a new bracket = 11% of the same

1 x 1.5 x 1.1 = 1.65
now 10% of a new bracket = 15% of the same bracket

1 x 2 x 1.1 = 2.2
10% of new bracket = 20% of the same

etc etc

so there's certainly cases where getting more of one bracket can be better

but generally the more multiplier brackets you access the more damage you deal

[drifting berry]

thanks, kinda brainrotted from OG arknights physical damage formula

[drifting quest]

nuances like some buffs only buffing some damage (e.g. cryo damage dealt vs arts damage dealt) can further complicate matters

[frigid vector]

love it when it says "takes damage dealt" just to fuck with you on if its dmg taken or dmg dealt (its the former)

[dry kindle]

Clearly the answer is just kill everything with 1 hit tangtang bug

[drifting quest]

xaihi incident

the tt bug is so funny

[dry kindle]

Is it even patched yet

[frigid vector]

the arts burst one was

this morning

[drifting quest]

every time you use her its a gamble if nothing will happen, if she will just evaporate, or if the enemy will just evaporate

the one hit one is still unpatched

[dry kindle]

😭

[gritty briar]

imo it helps to just think about whether it applies on yourself or if it applies on the enemy

[drifting quest]

people keep posting videos of their tangtangs melting

[frigid vector]

500 apoloroberlys

[drifting quest]

so the negative side of it seems to be more common than the positive

[daring dove]

This is what I kinda mean btw when I say she's silly front-loaded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9jOoj9Uh5k

[potent hornet]

my TangTang has more base attack than my LR....

[dry kindle]

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/trickal-speaky-trickal-speaky-cry-gif-6807327247121439836

TT attk kinda high, has almost the same attack as my Yvonne that has everything maxed while having 5/5/2 and no arteficed gear

[potent hornet]

i still need to artifice the agi on my kits

i'm at 602 agi with 6089 atk atm. I am sitting in wuling with the lvl2 atk buff from resting

[grand bough]

does new gear is bis on some older units? are there any changes in gear?

[drifting quest]

Plenty

Some are optional side grades, some are minimal upgrades, some are decent upgrades

Rot dependent, team dependent, weapon dependent, etc

[proud vector]

Due to dual SP and CD system

so much nuisance

[daring dove]

Yeah the more I use Tangtang the more I think she might actually be a better DPS than Yvonne & Last Rite. I don't think she'll strictly outdamage them in long rotations. But you can be damn sure anything that doesn't have 500k+ HP is going to die quicker to Tangtang.

[potent hornet]

yup

LR, Xaihi, TT can run the show

you can put just about anyone in the 4th slot and still probably be successful

[drifting berry]

Akekuri could potentially be really good depending on how link affects her

So much sp

[potent hornet]

link on her ult would be pretty good

[proud vector]

It’s…
Hmm

The damage contribution for having inflictions in DPM is often attributed to the striker themselves

So I guess if you count being infliction positive as contributing to damage Tangtang ain’t bad

[drifting berry]

I mean, since TT is not consuming any cryo you could potentially go even use Alesh

triple vanguard with TT, Alesh, Akekuri

[proud vector]

But that ‘better’ is incredibly nuisanced haha

[potent hornet]

i want that p5 waterspout dmg so baaaaaaad

an extra 240% dmg is so good

[edgy crater]

alesh bs gaming lol

[drifting berry]

Strikerless ahh team

[proud vector]

Add another infliction and make toxic soup

[ashen ibex]

so last rite + sig vs yvonne no sig, whos better, wasnt planning on yvonne but she jumped me on tangtang banner

[proud vector]

Corrosion soup or electrification soup

[edgy crater]

well, possible alesh dps gear lol

[drifting berry]

Or Cash out with a huge Akekuri Arts intensity combustion.

They need to buff the damage on those reactions

or something

[edgy crater]

hmm dats possible

tt alesh Estelle ake

[signal palm]

hi i saw your video

[terse raptor]

thx man

[drifting berry]

I mean, having a pseudo dps character that doesn't consume any infliction can open some team options

[proud vector]

It do

[drifting berry]

Before there was only Perlica or Fluorite as far as I'm concern

which was more of a gimick thing

[edgy crater]

perlica crit finisher

the arclight gaming

[drifting berry]

Perlica Finisher attack abuse

[outer ermine]

my dive buffers getting better

[daring dove]

To be honest I think whale Tangtang is pretty much just a better Perlica in teams where her cryo inflictions aren't messing with synergy. Better damage similar enemy debuffs with Tangtang just having better uptime.

[drifting berry]

Rhodan when new character comes out

[proud vector]

Noice

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-kyoko-kirigiri-after-school-lesson-gif-6483675630744807798

found it

[edgy crater]

do we gonna compare perlica team vs tang2 team

[potent hornet]

yup that reminds me to try to 1 phase that bastard finally

[daring dove]

I mean not sure how we would.

[edgy crater]

new patriot

[drifting berry]

Solo 1-7 ahh character

[proven mauve]

im just waiting for confirmation on how much of a difference tang actually makes to lr

[outer ermine]

lr lead for nonxai enjoyers

[proud vector]

Magyi calced at 10% increase but with stagger speed concerns I think?

Not sure about initial conditions of the test though

[outer ermine]

im perma running swordmancer w gil now too cuz of it

[proven mauve]

maygii

the legendary maygi of gacha math??

[proud vector]

Think so?

[proven mauve]

so kinda skippable?

[proud vector]

Not make or break

…. Yet

[proven mauve]

would 10% help me cope with my exemplar lr

[proud vector]

But it’s unlikely further optimisation will be like really high damage bonus

[proven mauve]

[proud vector]

oh lord

Uhhh no clue maybe the boost for you is even higher

The calc was with Khrav in mind

But also Tangtang sig in mind

[proven mauve]

tryna decide how safe ill be in terms of pulls since i want mifu and fangyi on guarantee

[bronze plume]

defo not safe

[proven mauve]

and maybe the character in between them

def skipping rossi and i haven't pulled yet

[bronze plume]

theres a good chance at least 1 of them is 1.2

[proven mauve]

guess im going two patches without pulling

istg if mifu isn't first half of 1.2

[drifting berry]

I just hope we don't get any additions for Yvonne in a while.

[edgy crater]

just skip rossi n do 💳

[drifting berry]

Not expending more than bp + monthly

[proven mauve]

i refuse to do 💳

💳 is for overpriced yummy food

[proud vector]

who knows

It could be cyro lancer

Or shatter phys mifu

[proven mauve]

i wanna pull

[proud vector]

Hold strong friend

[edgy crater]

bruh no

[proven mauve]

why they gotta make the first 4 characters look/act like teenagers

am i just unc now

[drifting berry]

We also need a 2 team content, I already got both Heat and Cryo teams but I haven't used Laev for like 1 month.

[proud vector]

Embrace PENGMIN

Be a goober like the rest

Why they put you in charge of the company? Who tf knows

[proven mauve]

im starting to build phys team

praying i get enough standard tickets to get ember

[drifting berry]

I need to max out my tt so I can move to physical, need to prepare for Rossi.

[edgy crater]

trust in lifeng

[proud vector]

Rossi the coin flip

[proven mauve]

i am lifengless

im hoping to get ember and use her in lifeng slot

[drifting berry]

I have my selector still there in case Ember becomes relevant

[edgy crater]

use ake instead

[proven mauve]

im just running endmin chen pog ardelia tm

might swap chen or ardelia for ember bc she's hot

[edgy crater]

well same but it's just endmin waiting sp

[proven mauve]

19 more pulls to hard pity standard

fuck maybe ill actually end up getting mifu first with how many basic pulls they're giving us

[edgy crater]

doubt

[bronze plume]

they are giving like

10 standards a patch

youre chillin\

[proven mauve]

10 isn't 19

[dry kindle]

Mfw 18 patches to finish standard selector

💀

[proven mauve]

big brain strat to retain players

trust

[warped sorrel]

if standard banner doesnt give arsenal ticket they might giving us more

Idk which is worse

[odd wren]

Hmmm

Ult damage

[edgy crater]

no more AI endmin?

[odd wren]

No more

Here's a sample run of my current setup

[outer ermine]

tapper

[odd wren]

Hahaha

[odd wren]

Im used to tapping, ever since i played wild rift xd

[outer ermine]

same but holding ba on mouse carried over to mobile pretty nicely

[odd wren]

I rarely hold a mouse nowadays xd

[edgy crater]

rts basically turbo tapping

[edgy crater]

gonna study this combo

[odd wren]

[odd wren]

Still need fixing

So i can align lifeng link properly

I used it just to get stagger points

But needs to be fixed

[edgy crater]

hg : i give u pog n lifeng, go play pysical

[odd wren]

[daring dove]

So close to making all 6* P5 waifu's level 90 now.

[odd wren]

Where endmin 90

[daring dove]

Can't make her P5 so doesn't count.

[odd wren]

[summer flicker]

[hollow wyvern]

first tried ruanyi food-less with yvonne/gilb/xaihi/tt

played kinda badly at parts, can prob shave a solid 10 sec off if better played

took about 110 sec

tt ult freeze very nice for this boss, lets me ult down the first phase

[edgy crater]

btw, does green orb spawn on fix location?

[hollow wyvern]

I feel like it does

in the stage before deep dive I followed approx the same route I did for deep dive

it worked out

there's a time where 3 green balls converge around the center

first run on it, kinda scuffed mechanics, plenty of time spare

I would have saved several seconds on green balls if I could dodge

but I think the green ball path I took there was quite fast

I ended on a far away one but once I finish mech it teleported me to boss anyway, so no need to worry about that

[lilac bloom]

thank you for funding this game for the low spenders

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1yJwszYE9W

finally beat yvonne

[dry kindle]

Nice hp bar?

💀

[outer ermine]

[summer flicker]

where hp bar

[hollow wyvern]

if you start fight with timestop it doesn't show hp bar?

[outer ermine]

b4 any dmg

[dry kindle]

🗿

[fresh trench]

what

[dry kindle]

What

Average day

[glass birch]

average day for a hyper carry team

[outer ermine]

lr comp stuff

[autumn folio]

waste of money, I regret the amount I spent, game got boring

[bronze plume]

me when i spend money on a game in its first week then regret it in the 2nd

[terse valley]

me when i spend money on literally anything

[bronze plume]

me when money

[valid zealot]

me

[dry kindle]

_ _

[odd wren]

Lmaooo

[odd wren]

Its joever

[warm galleon]

Hifu hifu

Guess wut

The thing that happened on yvon banner happened on tt banner too

But this time I ain't falling for it!

[outer ermine]

wtf

should prob delete the img so u dont get snapped

[hollow wyvern]

[bronze plume]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[hollow wyvern]

someone bleep this guy

[outer ermine]

i need ur luck

[warm galleon]

I need 1 moar yvon for p5

[outer ermine]

pull for tt, lose win to yvonne

[warm galleon]

Right, well last chance on Rossi banner

[odd wren]

Whats the patch for??

[molten star]

Lasst right pot?

[molten star]

Huh how did you get ccryo inflictions here?

[outer ermine]

5+5

lr fs, tt bs spam

[molten star]

Is this some p5 tang² stuff

[outer ermine]

its dumb whel stuff

i have some normal speedkill rots here somewhere

[molten star]

Do we have rot for lr, tang tang xaihi and perlica

[wanton notch]

Does Perlicia dps have new build with new gear?

[sleek lark]

is there a way to consistently cast tangtangs BS with 3 tornadoes?

[summer flicker]

wdym consistently

you need 2 combo

maygidrool

its 24s per to cast bs with 3 tornadoes, and 24s later ult with 3 tornadoes

[sleek lark]

yeah but then whats the point of being able to cast with 3 tornadoes if it would never happen

[summer flicker]

wdym it would never happen

[sleek lark]

are u supposed to wait for 2 combos?

and then use the skill?

[summer flicker]

yes

isnt all rotation have some constraint

bruh

[hollow wyvern]

in my ruan yi clear, I didn't get any debuff with tt

[sleek lark]

how do u trigger her combo tho, alesh ult and xiahi?

[hollow wyvern]

focused on getting xaihi chiv procs instead, downtimes too short to actually do even 2 tornados kek

[summer flicker]

look at my rotation

[hollow wyvern]

prob just gonna do tt skill combo skill in the future for at least 5% sus and wep proc

[summer flicker]

tangtang skill -> tangtang combo -> xaihi skill -> yvonne skill -> gilb combo -> yvonne combo -> xaihi combo(wait for tt cooldown to end before using xaihi combo) -> tangtang combo -> (wait for tangtang combo cd to end b4 using tangtang skill) -> tangtang skill -> xaihi skill -> tangtang combo -> xaihi combo(wait for tangtang combo cd to use xaihi combo) -> tangtang combo -> tangtang ult-> xaihi ult -> yvonne plunge -> yvonne skill -> yvonne combo -> yvonne combo -> yvonne ult -> wait 3s then gilb ult -> done

[sleek lark]

wait wheres skill here?

isnt combo start?

[dusk isle]

You start with bs > cs

[sleek lark]

then whats "C"

[dusk isle]

As laffey wrote above ^

[hollow wyvern]

until we get beefier targets I prob just gonna essentially button mash

fights too short

esp since we start with ults now

[sleek lark]

its so nice

[sleek lark]

also i dont remembr but can u cast stuff before the the end game content starts?

so u cheat sp

[hollow wyvern]

only some fights

I could be wrong but I don't think you can do it for ruan yi

[sleek lark]

like if u cast xiahi BS then enter a boss does it cleanses u?

[hollow wyvern]

although maybe if you stood still

the other 3 yes

actually idk if you can for triangle, been a while

[sleek lark]

do u have any idea how that would look like with alesh instead of gilb?

i dont have her

[twilit quail]

ok so like

ult gain chest on p0 yvonne might be ok after all

ohhhh this is so fucking annoying

I almost want to just leave for a few days

until it's figured out

[warm galleon]

Ult piece on yvon needs two things.
A boss that needs more than one ult from yvon.
Or a stage where the entire team starts at 0 energy.

[summer flicker]

i dont cheat sp

look at the rotation sp 😭

[sleek lark]

RIGHT u can use perlica

shes completely sp neultral? wow

ty

[rich linden]

I need to learn chinese

[icy remnant]

Can I just rant that this girl has the worst combination of base talents in the game

100 friends and not a single one of them is missing 7

[frail timber]

uuuh my bet is half your friends prolly stopped playing and so uuh yea

if i'm gonna pull on weapon banner anyway
yvonne/soupsoup/xaihi/alesh

should i pull artzy over current wedge or soupsoup's r1 over opus/waiting for bp crate

[clear iris]

is the difference between level 80 and level 90 really that big

my damage is so teensy weensy

[tight haven]

depends on the op and team

for a hypercarry team your hypercarry should be totally maxed eventually

theres no reason not to

in phys then your crusher should be e4/90

[clear iris]

im getting to level 90 slowly

i think only laev is 90

maybe its just the comp

isnt helping her damage enough

[torn pilot]

i see people using bonecrusha on tangtang and im curious why thats better than frontier?

this looks p good

[echo cove]

Cos tt don't proc frontier

[torn pilot]

oh i just read that "Return" isnt the same as "Recover"

✅

[potent hornet]

i mean the cd reduction might be worth it

even without that

[echo cove]

It's not worth saccing ur dmg

Bonekrusha is like +15% atk on top of actual usable passive

[torn pilot]

is this set better than just int maxing?

[potent hornet]

this is true, its what i use

[honest sky]

Does laevatain want bonus skill or basic atk dmg?

[torn pilot]

also curious about this set

[echo cove]

U ansing xaihi or the tt one?

[torn pilot]

is it better than sets from pins on xaihi and gilberta?

[echo cove]

Cos if xaihi, i'd say not rly but it depends on ur skill lvl

[potent hornet]

bonecrusha

[echo cove]

Like u as a player skill lvl

[potent hornet]

is what i use

[echo cove]

Swap ur chest

Smh

[normal tangle]

why's ur xaihi so dumb

[echo cove]

Looks kinda trash ngl

I don't even know how to answer that

[torn pilot]

whats that chest?

and whys it better than tidefall

[echo cove]

Redeemer

[potent hornet]

thx for reminding me about redeemer

[normal tangle]

is anyone rn still better off running tide chest over redeemer

what do i do with my fully artificed tide chest lol

[torn pilot]

ahhh i see

its new off set

thats super good actually

did you already artifice it?

[echo cove]

if it doesn't do shit to ur ult gain treshold, leave it be

i swapped my tide from xaihi to ard for that reason

[torn pilot]

whats new best set for gilberta?

[normal tangle]

but the int 💔

[echo cove]

idk but am running swordmancer

[echo cove]

not all chara need int like xaihi for buffing

support doing less dmg is whatever

[heady jungle]

Any new gear for physic team ??

[normal tangle]

both alesh and xaihi do, and i think they're the only ones running tide rn

[jagged forge]

I got no clue what you're saying

Gimme a sec to test a smaller design

[torn pilot]

swordmancer on gilberta

[outer ermine]

looks like the oneshot bug isnt limited to tt

wtf is happening

or marble

[torn pilot]

what is the best gear for tangtang?

these 3 + lynx slab?

oh im suppose to use this?

[normal tangle]

2x mask + the red chest

and then misec skill dmg gloves

[molten star]

My team of last rite xaihi tang² and perlica has no xiranite users. Should I drop like 200+ int on xaihi and put her on xiranite set?

[potent hornet]

this mofo

... again right before my last ult hit goes off

lol

[hollow wyvern]

so uh, why are so many ppl running little to no ER on tt

are they just all running her main dps or something, giving up her ult?

[potent hornet]

finally got it, lets see if i can get it on video now lol

ayyy got it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwfPAQ5usK8

i really need p1 TangTang

i wouldn't have to wait for her combo skill for the second one

[civic wolf]

Chilvalric Virtues > Detonation for Xaihi?

[potent hornet]

i'm using deto

virtues works as well, my deto is p5

[frozen tide]

They are extremely close

Depends on heavily on a lot of factors on which takes the edge

[clear iris]

i cant lie i have no idea how damage scales with a yvonne team

im only doing 100k total

maybe i should just level 90 my entire team first

[potent hornet]

must have solidification up

gotta time gilb ult to end just before yvonnes combo skill during her ult

[clear iris]

how much does gilb help yvonne's damage

cuz i dont have

[potent hornet]

are you using TangTang or gilberta?

[clear iris]

tangtang

[potent hornet]

better yet what team

[clear iris]

tru

ok i get i still need to level people and such

[potent hornet]

ahh

[clear iris]

but i dont get how that is gonna get me 900k extra damage

[potent hornet]

so ard will need to use her battle skill while corrosion is up to get the debuff, you want TangTangs whirlpools up to apply susc, once again make sure solidification is up during all this

i don't even need to watch to know this will blow me out of the water

[torn pilot]

should i change my yvonnes set? is there soemthing better i can be using?

[potent hornet]

i need to build combo dmg gear

i'm still using basic shit

[torn pilot]

also tangtang deals a surprising amount of damage

[hollow wyvern]

the dmg diff between full minmax dps and basic stuff is extreme

my minmax yvonne no ult does like 3x the dmg of my basic built LR without sig

[hollow wyvern]

that's her best set

[torn pilot]

what priority should i master yvonnes skills?

[hollow wyvern]

basic and ult

but if you want true minmax you max all

her skill and even combo do very good dmg

[torn pilot]

yeah i plan on 12/12 her

just wanted to make sure it was best to max her ult first, then BA, and then battle skill and finally combo skill

[hollow wyvern]

you also need to full enhance her gears

you can skip will on lynx

but everything else max

[torn pilot]

sounds good

[hollow wyvern]

although you might want ER body (red one) depending on rota and build

the other 3 pieces are kinda set

[torn pilot]

this is my team

i dont have any potentials on the 6* ops and p5 xaihi

[terse valley]

you mean 48/48

[torn pilot]

i really enjoy this team

it feels pretty complex honestly

[clear iris]

imma be honest

idk what the fuck im doing

actually timing my skills right im only getting 20k extra damage

[hollow wyvern]

then if you follow rotations very strictly you prob want ER body

but uh, personally I've never yet done a single proper rotation from start to finish

like ever on yvonne

[terse valley]

do we have any handcanon operators that can apply arts suscept other than tangtang

[hollow wyvern]

enemies die too quick in my experience

no

[torn pilot]

yeah i could see why its better

"better"

[hollow wyvern]

I just improvise shit on the fly based on the situation

[torn pilot]

the damage gained from lynx also seems p good tho

[hollow wyvern]

lynx you want to keep

with the new gear you now have ER body that's MI

[torn pilot]

ohhh i misunderstood

[hollow wyvern]

so you keep lynx regardless ER or not

[torn pilot]

hmm yeah that seems like a nice qol upgrade

ill lose a bit of attack% and ofc the damage% increase tho

[hollow wyvern]

basic is mainly when you're ulting

if the ER lets you ult more often, it can be better

depends on how you play

I prob can beat every boss at this point with only 1 ult, so uh, ult gen really isn't worth anything for me

[torn pilot]

35/36 . . .

[hollow wyvern]

plus I got p1 to make up for ER

[torn pilot]

yeah i mean that small amount of ER goes a long way

they made sure to design yvonnes p1 to be very effective

youre literally like 1% off ult

[hollow wyvern]

yeah it does, should be basically same effect as p1

[torn pilot]

in standard rotation without ER

[hollow wyvern]

tt yvonne rotations without ER or p1 actually even longer

unless you give up tt's ult cc potential during yvonne ult (diving tt)

I'm using tt just as a freeze bot really, letting me yvonne ult whenever

[torn pilot]

tbh i think theres a lot of incentive to dive on tt

just gotta use the ult a bit later

and dive after yvonne ult

the extra damage is so worth it

and it also makes a waterspout

[potent hornet]

dive is great for anything without a phase change lol

[hollow wyvern]

my tt is built full ER

so she ults at same time as everyone else

[torn pilot]

yeah i think its a lot better to get the dive attack off

[hollow wyvern]

if you can use yvonne ults without needing tt ult cc, yeah you can do that

[torn pilot]

when you dont youre missing out on big damage modified by 60% greater, also losing out on cryo stack, sp gen, and 200%+ damage increase

[hollow wyvern]

I could never find proper windows to yvonne ult without delaying it

delaying it causes issues since you wanna ult after yvonne combo for solidification...

[potent hornet]

i do my whirlpools early to get the debuff on before LR combos and ults

[hollow wyvern]

so timing becomes a hassle

[potent hornet]

for rhod anyway. i plung on other bosses for the spouts

[hollow wyvern]

I forget to do spouts or do it with no stacks

I first cleared ruan yi in under 2 min by using tt purely as ult stun

I somehow ran rotation so scuffed I never triggered any tt sus

1 ult first phase + a little bit to finish, some random stuff second phase, done

[potent hornet]

i mean if there is a water spout they have some

[hollow wyvern]

I didn't have enough buildup time to figure that out

although in future maybe I do tt skill combo skill

I just focused on xaihi for chiv procs

[potent hornet]

yea you need her combo skill to go off

[hollow wyvern]

xaihi proc taking so long actually kinda sucks for me now

[potent hornet]

you want two whirlpools on the ground before you ult

[hollow wyvern]

bosses die too fast or phase change too fast for me to properly do 2 whirlpools

takes way too long to set up

bro's already dead before I ult

[potent hornet]

without p1 her CS does feel like it takes forever

i wil lhave her at least p1 next week

[torn pilot]

tbh her combo skill realistically doesnt need the -2s

[potent hornet]

it lines up great with LR pacing

[hollow wyvern]

this was my super scuffed first clear

like 110 sec, no food, dogshit rotations, but minmax invests simply carried

[torn pilot]

the timing on xaihi combo skill and tt refresh on cs is super close

and usually you can just wait to use xaihi cs a bit to make sure tangtang is back up

[potent hornet]

so for that setup

[torn pilot]

jeez thats actually insane

[potent hornet]

you will want to use TangTang bS once

[torn pilot]

i just finished trimming that thing and i couldnt do it without minmaxing my rotation

[potent hornet]

she will trigger her own combo

that will place 1 WP

do that right away

[torn pilot]

yeah usually the goal is to lead with TT battle skill -> cs to put it on cooldown

[potent hornet]

so you can line up the xaihi BS with the CD

that will pop the 2nd WP

[torn pilot]

and then after that youre going to be generating cryo stacks off xahi -> tangtang combo skill off cooldown -> tangtang battle skill

[potent hornet]

then do your ult sequences

[torn pilot]

^

[hollow wyvern]

I'm pretty sure I'm at the point where I could trim bosses or be real close, without ulting on yvonne at all

I basically did almost that for the first 3 bosses, back when I couldn't find good windows for her ult

[neon geode]

why is tangtang not in the last rite team comp on the teambuilding sheet?

[torn pilot]

cuz tangtang sucks

[potent hornet]

not actually needed

[torn pilot]

(propaganda)

[torn pilot]

real news?

tangtang seems best in slot on that team

[potent hornet]

yea, the team as it sits still does fantastic

[neon geode]

how so, doesnt she literally make the team +1 on cryo ?

[hollow wyvern]

I don't think LR really needs that much more cryo

you're gated by LR combo cd at that point

[potent hornet]

yea but when you are speaking TTK and you don't actually need the 4th cryo stack to nuke in the shortest time why bother?

[neon geode]

but you go from 2 final hits to just 1 final hit required on last rite if you do battle skill LR Xaihi and then get 1 more from tangtang

[torn pilot]

is t1 or t2 bonecrusha armor better for tangtang?

pins reccomends t2 butttt idk t1 seems pretty good too

whirlpools deal a ton of damage

[hollow wyvern]

are ppl actually running low ER tt on yvonne teams and still ulting on time?

[torn pilot]

yes lol

try to remember that tangtang deals some really good damage

youll believe it when you see it

id compare her damage to someone like chen

its a very high tier amount of "sub dps" damage

and also her ult uptime is just fine

[potent hornet]

i mean i use TangTang, i know she does good dmg

[hollow wyvern]

in my vid, near the end

you can see tt get ult same time as xaihi

both of them running 180% ER

[torn pilot]

i just dont think it matters that much to have her ult

tangtangs ult isnt the center of her kitt really

the center of her kit is whirlpools

and generating stacks and dealing damage

[hollow wyvern]

tt ult lets me essentially use yvonne ult

that's all I need her to do

[potent hornet]

(her ult makes whirlpools with more dmg that still count as a battle skill)

[hollow wyvern]

otherwise it's a pain finding window

[torn pilot]

yeah tangtang is really just battle skill and combo skill turbo

to deal damage while buffing the team along the way

it actually feels so good to just one shot any mobs in the overworld now with tangtang in the party

[hollow wyvern]

you weren't doing it before?

you really need to minmax yvonne

gilb skill into yvonne skill

most mobs dead, or live on sliver, dying to the combos after

[torn pilot]

well to be fair my yvonne was very underleveled until the last few days

[torn pilot]

tbh that just wasnt the case for me

[hollow wyvern]

this is my farming rotation pre-tt btw

no ults, just skills and combos

no downtime, like 30 sec per run

[torn pilot]

it was noticeably a lot worse than chen + endmin deleating everything

so i just used them for overworld instead

[hollow wyvern]

like in the current mobbing content, yvonne gilb has 0 issues with mobbing at all

mob hps too low

[signal sundial]

no way

i just wanted to post my maxed out bnnuy

[hollow wyvern]

min max diff, prob the atk stat

my yvonne can nearly kill a mob with just a single auto chain I think

[hollow wyvern]

too nsfw for this server

[signal sundial]

[tepid sable]

Who will Rossie replace in the sustainless physical team?

[frosty crescent]

Anyone have experience to judge phys or laev better

[frosty crescent]

No one

[neon geode]

she makes a whole different teamcomp possible

[smoky quarry]

I have a burning temptation to put my notebook into freezer box

it's -15c there

[glass wind]

Wait is MI security still good for Rossi? Why is the new gears Agility and Intellect

[terse valley]

probably cuz shes gonna be agi int idk?

also i think her main dmg could comes from ult seeing some of the new gears has agi int uge crit

and the bp sword is agi crit and increase ult dmg

[sullen kite]

does anyone know the calc for tang tang gear in yvonne team between frontier set and the bonekrusha set

just roughly which is better is fine n how much better if you know

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1ocw4zWEc7
finally playing like a normal person and starting from the front

also i swear tt ult is bugged

yvonne ruan runs are nice ngl if only we didnt have to run around

[civic wolf]

is Redeemer ARmor the only way to artifice Rdeemer Armor 💀

[surreal sparrow]

Oh waiter! 5000 Oroberyls please!

[smoky quarry]

You can now build pogr via swordmancer arts intensity?

Heavy armor + Nav beacons + (aethertech?) gloves

[odd wren]

No

Its better to use frontier

More will

More dps xd

This what i saw from a chinese whale in bilibili

Who did 17 seconds rhod with physical comp

[smoky quarry]

dps

pogr

these things do not go in the same sentence

I was thinking for a minute why the hell iana uses hotwork set for pogr that adds nothing for pogr (just as pulser)

well apparently set effect is arts intensity +30

alongside buff that can't be procked

I thought new gear was meant to eliminate awkward gear picks

[odd wren]

https://b23.tv/JvzB1xi

[signal palm]

im so close

[honest hill]

Arts intensity build not better?

[signal palm]

pov you have to put lifeng on xiranite because he does too much damage on aethertech and triggers rhodagn phase 2 too early

[odd wren]

Its good for screenshot damage

Overall dps and speedrunning swordmancer still better

[honest hill]

I see

[steel summit]

how big of a gap is the personal damage output for tangtang between brigand and home longing?

[signal palm]

yeah seems like frontiers results in less burst damage

first picture I ran arts intensity

[odd wren]

For dapan you need high breach %

For endmin chen as dps'

They need more overall dps gain imho

[signal palm]

no resources to build penguin :c

maybe once they do the next sanity event

[odd wren]

You can but it can take sme time xd

Im starting to build my essences properly

After this i max lifeng

[signal palm]

i need to max essence on panda first so I can acheive 1m on the crush instance

[odd wren]

Then pog never rest

[signal palm]

do you think this weapon is better than rapid if you don't use chen as controlled, only burst with her ultimate

[odd wren]

Its easy to p5

Rapid is not

And iirc memory at p5 better than sudnering for about 10%

[signal palm]

also p5 makes the weapon look shinier so

[terse valley]

wat

[signal palm]

if you know you know

we do a little spending

[terse valley]

just buy bp twice ecksdee

[dawn patrol]

fuck that we do a lotta spending

[odd wren]

It is easy to p5 xD

[odd wren]

[terse valley]

everything's easy if you have money

[ashen scroll]

P5 sig is easy even if you dont have money

Just use all your f2p lifesaving from day 1 to today , spend all the arsenal ticket on 1 sig banner

[dawn patrol]

still not enough probably

bc the weapon pull system is just like that

[drifting berry]

Even that would get you like P1 or P2 signature depending on luck

[signal palm]

you only need 6 pulls to p5, a wise person once said to me

[dawn patrol]

mmmm, no, very unwise

[signal palm]

real

[drifting berry]

it's 50/50, either you get it or you don't

[ashen scroll]

Well rng still come in play but i do know atleast 3 low cortisol LR main having p5 sigb

[drifting berry]

That probably just insane luck

I mean P1/P2 is not that far away from P5 is you are lucky

Like I got 2 signatures, one was at 80 and the other one was at 40- and I got like another 40 pulls saved so far.

[ashen scroll]

If you do the math its make sense tho , since our initial pull is alot

Not to mention your standard free pulls also give arsenal tickets

[drifting berry]

idk, even all that for me only has gotten me around 31.760 arsenal tickets total, if I were to spend the Orundum I have left it could probably go for to 35k? Which is around 180 pulls in total.

I still have exploration and mission that have been not done but I don't think that would increase these values as much.

Like you need to be lucky on the character banner to get many Arsenal tickets and then you need to be lucky on the weapon banner

Maybe doable, idk

[ashen scroll]

You got 2 sig and rougly 180 pulls that alone is almost pot 3 even if your luck is average

Also sig last for 3 banner which make it even easier to achieve

[daring dove]

Do we know how close it gets to Rapid at P5?

[drifting berry]

I mean, yeah it makes sense, it's just up to you to spend all of you orundum.

Also you can buy some Arsenal tickets with the free Originium

It changes it from insane luck to reasonable high luck.

[ashen scroll]

Yeah its definitely a choice , you want shiny gem or never ending meta chase pulling for BIS

[willow blade]

Can anyone tell me what is the p5 wolf Leav 4 ebs combo?

[odd wren]

Iirc shuo said something about this

I forgot

[runic hamlet]

Hey ! Is there any new gear build ideas for the phys team lifeng / edmin / pog / chen since 1.1 ? New inspiration

[odd wren]

https://b23.tv/JvzB1xi

[limber drift]

What do you think? Maximizing damage without passives makes it feel more consistent

[daring dove]

Screw it considering all the other battle pass weapons are totally useless. I'll just P5 it for when I eventually get around to building PHY team.

[runic hamlet]

Thx a lot ! Doesn’t seems to change much except pog

[daring dove]

I'm guessing you haven't finished her essence ATK looks pretty low for that much INT.

[dawn patrol]

^

i have less int and more atk lmao

[willow blade]

Can anyone tell me what is the p5 wolf Leav 4 ebs combo?

[drifting quest]

5-10% better (can scale beyond at absurd critfish) or worse depending on gear, rot, crit freq, etc.

Per current calcs

STC ofc

[mortal wolf]

Do any of you so happen to have the percentage differences between Yvonne's sig, Wedge and Navigator?

[drifting quest]

Give me a minute to get on pc

[willow blade]

(p4 wedge if i remember is worse then sig, as the p5 final upgrade buffs the passive a lot)

[drifting quest]

so it depends entirely on your assumptions

gear team etc

this is the same for every calc in endfield, there's no generic

range of values even p3 wedge can beat p0 sig

but most of the time it's about p4 to p5 where you start to win out somewhat consistently

p5 navi can be as high as about 90-95% performance but it's closer to that 90% or so

p0 navi is consistently about 5-10% worse than p5

wedge is ahead of navi at equal pots by a couple %

2-5% or so

assuming equal assumptions ofc

[mortal wolf]

I see 🙂‍↕️

I haven't really started on Yvonne's team of Xaihi Tangtang Gilberta (heck I just came back when 1.1 released)

Just needed to know if I'm just gonna grab Navi this time instead of waiting for Wedge to pop up in Arsenal Store

cause I want Exemplar too

[drifting quest]

navi is fine to pick up

[willow blade]

can anyone share the p5 wolf Leav's 4EBS combo?

[daring dove]

6k ATK Tangtang achieved.

[cinder oxide]

How's her dps

[daring dove]

Absolutely nuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9jOoj9Uh5k

[odd wren]

So overall and accessibility wise memory wins

[drifting quest]

hard to say since sundering is decently accessible too

[odd wren]

I see

[drifting quest]

chen gear is also a bit contested right now

[daring dove]

I legitimately think on balance Tangtang is a better DPS than Last Rite or Yvonne, not from a pure numbers prospective as in a long rotation with fully optimised buffs they'll out DPS Tangtang. But in terms of how much damage she can put out & how quickly she does it I don't even think Laevatain matches her. That said I still think Laevatain is a better DPS on balance.

[drifting quest]

so until chen gear settles, alongside other units gear, there wont be a solid answer

[odd wren]

Yeah I've seen different variations too

[dry kindle]

imagine being a phys player

[odd wren]

Its fun

Especially with the qol

[quaint matrix]

are there any calcs of bp vs sunder on chen?

[drifting quest]

scroll up

[quaint matrix]

how far?

[drifting quest]

a little bit given the convo just happened

[tight flame]

Does anyone know how a p1 r1 ardelia compares with gil in a LR n tt team?

[willow blade]

can anyone share the p5 wolf Leav's 4EBS combo?

[quaint matrix]

so p5 vs p5 is just 10%?

wow sunder really is op

[drifting quest]

it can be on average 10% EITHER way

[quaint matrix]

but mine is only p2 so bp wpn is a winner

[drifting quest]

it can be more than that with some absurd crit fishing

[willow blade]

perlica best from the clacs i saw

[quaint matrix]

i'm not gonna crit fish

fuck it

only overall means to me

[drifting quest]

this is a wide range though

so wait for more calcs and more importantly gear calcs

before committing

20% variance is a huge amount to bet on

[quaint matrix]

Yeah,i'm waiting cause i still need 1 more chest on lvl 40 to get it to p5

and there is no content rn which is difficult

trimmed bull was easy af

i'm just slowly investing into phys team cause i like it

and play it most of the time

[dry mason]

@outer ermine Is this considered weak Xaihi

[civic wolf]

is the spreadsheet build for Tangtang definitely the best gear build for her?

[drifting quest]

no

[honest hill]

P5P5?

[willow blade]

this best tang set for LR right?

[honest hill]

ur int can be like 700

[drifting quest]

it's a solid early pick, might remain the best

but we dont know for sure yet

[civic wolf]

saw this, and i was uh, already on my way to artifice this thing

[drifting quest]

tt rots, teams, etc. are still wip

just

dont artifice

its that simple

[civic wolf]

I saw a youtube CC going for Ult Gain Gloves

[daring dove]

Why does crit even enter the conversation they're both CR weapons, so the assumptions for crit should just be the same? I mean you'd get slightly more damage from Rapid maybe if you got a ton of crits during stagger. But outside of that I don't really see the relevance. Looking at the both in isolation. I'd agree with your original assessment. Gloruous Memory is likely a bit better for the average player.

[civic wolf]

so i wanted to ask

[drifting quest]

sundering has no crit

[civic wolf]

had to artifice it at least a bit or some becaus the gear UI is so ass

[daring dove]

I meant compared to Rapid, which was what most people where interested in no?

[drifting quest]

as long as you dont complain if gear changes

[civic wolf]

you basically have to scroll down and look for Tangtang from the masses unless you artifice them

[drifting quest]

ive yet to see someone ask rapid vs bp

at least that ive answered

since most people are f2p or low spenders

so rascent isnt a comparison for them

[civic wolf]

but yeah i really dont get what HG's endgoal of basically giving even the CC's nothing to work with until day 1 release

[honest hill]

P5 BP wep is easy to get

[civic wolf]

its kinda ridicilous

i already feel a bit scammed about my Tide armor piece I didn't think they'd mess with you this soon LOL

[quick totem]

Will anything happen?

[drifting quest]

nothing happened for previous birthdays

[golden rapids]

Should I replace Perlica with Gilberta?
I lost 50/50 trying to get p1 tangtang :(

[quick totem]

what on oversight...

[unique jungle]

Is this rotation fine? I dont have her sig yet and im coping with navigator so tangtangs personal dmg sucks bols

[drifting quest]

you can

its less optimal

[honest hill]

most ppl will get rossi BP wep for chen because u can P5 it

[drifting quest]

if you have issues then just make sure its voiced in surveys

[quasi quarry]

yeah honestly same angle

like im not too willing to use arsenal tickets for p5 sundering

[civic wolf]

dont u basically have to claim the same weapon every time though assuming it never rotates out

[quasi quarry]

meanwhile i am buying bp so i can spare to p5 that weap

[civic wolf]

for the next 5 patches

[daring dove]

Hmmm that's a good question, is more battle skill damage on gloves better than having better subs & ultimate damage bonus.

[drifting quest]

no you get tokens for potentials

freemium bp maybe

[civic wolf]

isnt that paid only

[honest hill]

no because origo pass gives a dupe box same w paid bp so u only need two paid bps/origo to max dupe

[drifting quest]

i was about to say

[quasi quarry]

if you're only buying up to originite bp then yes

[drifting quest]

i dont know if its paid bp or not

[honest hill]

if ur a low spender then it's fine

[quasi quarry]

actually wait

[honest hill]

which why i said most

[daring dove]

This is why I have been using on my Tangtang.

[honest hill]

1 for origo 1 for paid

lemme double chek tho

[civic wolf]

what in the actual fuck is that widescreen

[dry kindle]

1 box in freemium

1 box + 2 dupe tokens in paid

[honest hill]

oh nvm it's paid only

[quasi quarry]

yeah token boxes are paid only

[honest hill]

for the dupe boxes

still a low spender can get

F2P is cooked anyways

[dry kindle]

[dry mason]

yeah but I'm just building 2 teams, so I can't hyper invest on Xaihi that much

[honest hill]

ur other team is leva no?

I was able to trim w ur rots

[dry mason]

yes

I have like 5 OP built

Heat and Cryo teams

[honest hill]

oh like max max

I see

[honest hill]

did u like lv 80 ur supports or something so ur broke?

[dry mason]

I'm out of this

[dry kindle]

whel

[golden rapids]

Should I pull for Gilberta sig or leave her on Santza???

[dry kindle]

oh right i need to update my wuling

[drifting quest]

i need to figure out my factory

[dry kindle]

bleh

[honest hill]

how's that whel

[drifting quest]

im not producing enough to full buy

[honest hill]

u could use bps

[daring dove]

To be honest maybe the extra battle skill damage is better the damage fall off from the lower agility stat is almost entirely compensated for with the better strength stat.

[dry kindle]

i got the outpost upgrade today and havent bothered fixing the facs

fml

[dry mason]

My Tangtang gears aren't even finished yet

[daring dove]

An battle skill damage is always active even if it is satured.

[dry mason]

Armor and gloves left

[drifting quest]

privelege to artifice early

smh

[honest hill]

tt gears could change

[dry mason]

I dont even have green jar to get new armor for LR

[honest hill]

so I am holding off

[dry mason]

[dry kindle]

🗿

[honest hill]

there's no new armour for LR it's just frontier if below P3 and bonekrusha if P3+

[dry mason]

So the result is here

[dry mason]

that's what i mean

Aethertech can't give me enough DMG to finish boss before stagger broken

[honest hill]

yeah it's mid

[drifting quest]

there's an argument for yinglung

for general gameplay

aethertech for general bossing

[honest hill]

yeah yinglung is actually good

buffs cs bs and ult

if only red gear was str will it would've been better

[dry mason]

these one?

[honest hill]

yeah light armour

[dry mason]

so this one

[honest hill]

ye

[drifting quest]

yeah

[honest hill]

if u max artifice the skill dmg it's 17.9% iirc

[drifting quest]

sounds about right

for x1.3

[honest hill]

yeah max artifice is 1.3x

[dry mason]

should be better than any other armors before P2?

[drifting quest]

4.3 or so more

[dry mason]

after P3 go for combo armor?

[honest hill]

I mean

are u using her in yvonne team?

[dry mason]

no

I invested on Yv just for fun

[honest hill]

oh I see

lol

[dry mason]

Idk about the other ones, but LR Tangtang gameplay is more comfy for me

Compare to Yv

[daring dove]

Is Ardelia the only standard 6* that doesn't have any annoying split ship support skill?

[civic wolf]

whats the skill rotation for Yvonne Xaihi Tang2 Gilb?

do u start with Gilb SKill only if you're dealing with crowds

[honest hill]

general gameplay yinglung is decent for like against marble

the tentacles

[golden rapids]

Is endfieldtools.dev reliable source of builds???

[dry mason]

[drifting quest]

community made so on average no

[civic wolf]

if you use an artificed gear as an artifice fodder are they going COMPLETELY INTO WASTE

[drifting quest]

quick skim over plenty of issues spotted

[unreal light]

Hi shuo I’m sorry if I ever was mean towards you

[terse valley]

it's okay for a database at least

[unreal light]

[drifting quest]

where has this come from

[dry mason]

Have to crit fish gaming

[willow blade]

how do you have enough sp for ard?

[dry mason]

You pre-use LR and Xahi BS

[dry kindle]

pre combat memes

[dry mason]

Then wait for regen

pre combat

yeah

I just lazy to go behind his back

But eh, have to use pre combat SP trick

[daring dove]

Who do you think I should build next for my PHY team after Ember Lifeng or Chen?

I need to do Pog as well eventually I guess?

[odd wren]

Lifeng

You need pog tho

[terse valley]

endmin??

[odd wren]

[urban plaza]

The current physical team is Pog, Endmin, Lifeng, Chen

[odd wren]

Have you seen the whale chinese physical team user yet?

https://b23.tv/JvzB1xi

All p5/p5

Except endmin of course

But all sig at p5 and pog lifeng chen xd

[terse valley]

that's not a good reference

[unreal light]

Hornymon redemption arc or something

[odd wren]

I mean he's also a whale

[terse valley]

I...just realized that

[odd wren]

He's gonna be able to max pog sooner or later

[golden rapids]

So where do I look for builds?
I once used tiktok and it wasted my resources

[terse valley]

man im never doing helping again

[odd wren]

[terse valley]

uh here? or #team-build

[daring dove]

Lol he's like me, can't pull pog to save his life despite everyone else being P5.

[odd wren]

Hahahaha

But damn his lifeng damage

[urban plaza]

Pinned spreadsheet

[unreal light]

Either do them yourself, or ask dedicated players who main the character you want to build

[drifting quest]

well I appreciate the comment but you're good, I never cared much. you're a ways ahead of the other feelscrafters who argue about things

[civic wolf]

how many sprouts are you recommended to stack before using Tang2 Skill?

2? or 3?

[odd wren]

My pog is...