#theorycrafting
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does anyone already tried glorius memory with chen?
yeah, some of the gear lines are unique to the new sets
oh that's cooked
Atk% on ult cast for different element operators
if I wasn't poor

why don't endfield have something similar to wuwa
media server
but like after patch is out to test gears
I mean that ores been a thing since cbt1
does it means that it's a good addition cause it was old?
I wasn't debating whether it's new or not
I mean
Whats wrong woth updating the factory
The water system we just got in 1.1 was in cbt1 not surprising we got it added
It's inconvinient in a lot of ways
How?
Like having 2 types of components for the gear in the same region and same level
That just means you need to make 2 different component types
also cuprium is harder to manufacture since it messes with batteries and syringe production at the same time, and it's not compatible with xiranite components at 100% output
Meaningless errand
I mean sure but at the same time id rather the factpry have new stuff added then nothing
what set for fish man?
Factory is a jebait anyway

alesh
so no set huh
also should i take alesh out for someone else? no gilb
since he doesnt even combo in this team
and is mostly an ult bot
maybe ardelia i was thinking
Gilberta if you have her
no gilberta
They just said they dont have her
so just accept he will get ult on his own eventually?
Pretty much no Gil kinda slams you with him
so since hes not comboing aka fishing do i want intellect still?
like wouldnt be better to trade first for second
since it still gives intellect
and theres not set anyways
like so
any tech for yvonne/gilb/tangtang core?
if he is intmaxxer like xaihi redeemer chest better
i got lifeng at 70 and then sparked tangtang
should i go for another 12-
120
should i use new chest on wulfguard?
witch new chest?
ult gain one
the one you have is not the tide fall armor
yeah but i'm asking should i replace tidefall for new one for extra er?
what does with OBJ mean there? 232 er on top of what obj provides, or with it included
well if you are going for extra you should try the new Swordmancer ligh armor
with i guess
i have 226 rn with it
and his wpns is not maxed yet even
ye, if it werent factored in thats a shitload of er to hit which is why i was confused
yes
dont expect anything to be solved until like
at least next week
maybe the week after
quinda whad does bonekrusha sounds to you
Bruh another dating sim this time with tang tang
have you seen how she poses herself on the gear tab
I dont have her
there
im also showing my current gear setup for you guys to check
They do advertise her booty rather often
actually no they went quite time on her
excpet that part once you get to wuling and meet her for the first time
Yep that
I think TT gearing just sucks unless you run low ER
TT love that nickname
Soup soup
You go ER body then 3pc xira, or just go no set but higher atk
Is this currently the best option for DPS Pog? 2x lynx slabs, hot work gloves and xiranite armor?
currently from what ive serched TT's best gear is bonekrusha since you want to use her combo has much has possible to get max Sprouts fast
its one of several options or varying viability
as well as sub sets within each gear set
tangtang seems really good
im really enjoying using her
seems like a more direct upgrade for LR than for yvonne tho
LR + tangtang seems like a really efficient cryo infliction core
bankruptcy speedrun
dude it supper fun how fast you can build up 4 cryo stack with her
also any ideas for the last slot it either for Perlica or Ardelia but if you have any more sugestions im open for debate
🦊
i want to but it conflicts a bit with it since she can consume cryo stacks
the way around it is simply not using her battle skill
you just need her ult and combo
ok ill try
did LR gear change?
well its mostly the same: Frontier armor and the rest is tide surge gautlets and o2 tanks, but if you have her at good potencial on her you can try Bonekrusha with Seeker of dark lung
no wasted mats then, phew
still thinking about tang tang on the team, i'm running gil + perlica at the moment and it works well
not sure it's worth potentially 120 pulls
no Xaihi?
yeah with xaihi, of course
oh wait you dont have TT yet?
nope, still deciding if i'm pulling
well i have her and i will say her ult is amazing to finish up targets and SPECIALLY Marble Aggelomoirai and she can stack cryo VERY fast and its perfect for LR since she give CC to the team
do you use her skill often?
u'know the whole fling thing then plugging into the ground you can simple skip that part entirely
pretty much i dont use the 4th character and i use Xaihi LR Bs first the wait until i get TT Cs then use her Bs to aply cryo and boom you get LR's Cs like that
my favorite thing about her from playing the combat drill is the basic attacks, she feels amazing to hit with lol
and since Lr and TT give SP LR from her Bs and TT from her Cs you can get LR's secone Bs in no time
dude Lr is the "main dps" but TT feel amazing during combat so i made her my main operator when using Lr team XP
yeah i can see myself mostly controlling tang instead
Hmm I like that theres still no ferrium mineral bed
also LR feels slow and TT is just EVERYWHERE and NOWHERE at once also if you use TT indoors its pretty funny since the camera goes everywhere and you cant see bolloks
humm guys correct me if im wrong but isn't TT also called Child born from water
or smth like that
well we had this but yk it could change who knows
has anyone done calcs on how much damage khravenger is responsible for on last rite
it's a lot
last rite needs sig
less or more
explains why she feels so copey with exemplar lmao
im surprised theres not a fancy tc mastersheet yet
wont really exist

pull sig
wuwa had such a nice spreadsheet when i was playing
or don't play her
wuwa is a like

yea
Man i lost my 50/50 xD
nooo
combat systems are pretty similar no?
Lmao 2nd p4 pog i saw today
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no
I need to farm ginseng and start doing some maths with endmin new set lma
damn
Why would you make Pog's sig P5 when Thermite is stronger. Or just love Pog so want his sig in which case fair. 
NR looks better
some people value aesthetics over damage sometimes
I didn't even plan to p5 never rest xd i just did when i was fishing gv from it
so much tokens wasted
But yeah since i have it i might as well use it over p0 thermite and also its kinda good with my current setup where in im using this
Clue 7 anyone?
Haha not really since i have p5 gv now and i dont really care about other units atm
truly the endmin
Still testing how further can this burst go, i think if i crit fish i can do 1m++
Funny enough Pog is the only character I don't have P5 rn, unless you count Endmin. That guy tends to leave me alone which I don't mind. 
oh nooooooooo im only 500% not 550% ahead of the requirement
lmao

Almost did a p1 clear with the new endmin kit as well
judging by the bp weapon's effect rapid ascent should work on rossi pretty well shouldnt it?
Ermmm yeah but it's also a bad weapon so does it matter 
ig not but theyre just, really similar
Glorious memory seems good with chen at p5 xD
it's better than sundering
rapid has the downside of being main attribute instead of agility
so lower cieling there
P5 Rapid > P5 BP > P5 Sundering Steel I think
Pretty much
I had nine of them week ago

as long as youre using chen skill the uptime on that ult dmg bonus is perma aint it
yeah battle skill and combo skill
Its 100%
20 attribute difference, but RA has higher base attack just cause it's 6 star
the bp wep is also 6* though
Tho the bp one really the beat option right now if you cant afford or dont wanna get a p5 rapid
they should have the same base dmg
hey so i wanna use my 6 star selector, i care about lore and whats pog like tldr lore? i normally go for husbandos but im not sure im sold on him
yeah
getting p5 rapid sounds like aids 😭
could always save dupe boxes for it I think
idk
Pog is the hellagur from og
that's about it
Getting a p5 gv is cancer
hellagur?
I don't have rapid to think about it
9 clues given to you?
oh yeah i dont doubt that ive never gotten one outside of the dollar pack
Tomorrow I should be able to build ultimate Tangtang minus artificing anyway I'm already really impressed with her an I don't even have her proper gear crafted yet.
9 clues generated by operators
shes such a fun unit
So is she good
Hahahahaha i have it on p5
i have p0
its still enough honestly 😭
I got cancer
John endfield
the sword that gives you cancer

can you transfer acc when you'll be on a deathbed?
tbh rossi bp sword seems like a decent pickup
I mean yeah but keep in mind she's P5/P5 for me so milege may vary. That said I'm using the wrong artifact set bonuses rn, so I imagine a fully built P0+P0 Tangtang will correct pieces should perform similar.
i might grab itand try to raise its pots
Oh you got p5 tt?
who is needed to be team with
Either Last Rite or Yvonne is fine to be honest.
Having Gilberta is nice as well.
Yeah in the process of building her. I reckon fully maxed out she easily passes 6.2k ATK.
I'll get 40 extrea agility for free tomorrow an there's better artificing pieces to come.
An better gear sets.
She wipes out enemies in seconds in openworld super comfy.
An the fact she triggers her own combo skill is so nice.
shuo
what do u think about tangtang for last rite now that she's released
we still dont know enough

What gear are you running on her
just not enough testing yet?
not enough tc, not enough testing
we dont even know tt gear stuff yet
let alone rots, teams, etc
Yeah she pretty nice for overworls and too fast
tangtang has a couple gameplay altering bugs too
cough 20 infliction stacks cough
Yeah, they really took her sub-DPS value to 11. Add to the fact she applies arts susceptibility to enemies pretty much instantly & maintains it the entire fight you have a truly broken sub-DPS.
But that does mean you need her & her sig.
which set to put on tangtang?
we dont know yet
if you want a temp set new bonekrusha gear is generic enough
just dont artifice
days to weeks
so theres no pog lore atm?
as with the last time you asked
damn okay ig I will just use bonekrusha temporarily
Only problem I would say is Tangtang's value is hurt more by not having sig than any other character I have seen so far. Maybe outside of LR but even then I think Tangtang wants sig more.
Tang essence is giving me problems as well
so any update on rossi?
my essence rn is 4 1 2 rn
her numbers have not magically appeared since yesterday
aw
I started working on the essence before the patch
I prefarmed it, an took a chance datamine stuff would be spot on. So mine's only 6/6/3.
Sunk cost
you'll get an update for rossi when people can pull for her lmao
they're not gonna release her numbers before she drops
ye it's just a matter of how many essences I dump lol
and you're not gonna find leak info in the official server lmao
1400 sanity got me from 1/1/1>1/1/3 
lmao
I am working on M3 her ult as well
her BS is M3 rn

not even a t cred issue
I actually think I already have 3/3 match essences for every decent 6* weapon in the game now. Problem is now it's hard to justify farming for more essences when you're not collecting them for new weapons at the same time. 
after I done w tt
I will work on chen ig

i gotta farm new essence for chen
maybe solo chen will make me happy

my big issue w chen was that box cutter
now we got a decent looking bp wep
actually I have to work on perli
smh
My glorious is now 1-1-3 🙁
Yeah I'm building Ember now that Tangtang is done. Then I'mma use the remaining time I have left to hopefully start prefarming for Rossi ascenion materials (already got essence).
glorious memory is better than sundereel?
That said I'm still not sure if Rossi is worth rn.
its better than rapid ascent
well
depends what pot
equal pot
Oh wow
thats comparing both at p2
So my chen is really going hyper
what about sundering steel
so your attack will be higher off of that alone
- the atk%
i think it took like, p1 or maybe p0 to be better
no both are crit rate
well no comparison at P5 well P2 rapid is worse than P5 sundering
for their secondary
my sundering is p0 
P1 LR is good? or not huge difference
It has atk % on the third line
wait
ohh yeah a flat atk%
i didnt catch that somehow
also its perma uptime
instead of being on stagger
P3 rapid > P5 sundering > P2 rapid
P5 rapid > P5 BP > P5 sundering
p5 rapid should be pretty much equal to p5 bp
well they should be similar ye
but I think P5 rapid better
I thought it was like that for every game
that's what it showed in post no?
they were equal pot
yeah
P5 they might be same or rapid is better
they dont mention p5 in that post?
yeah I'm saying P5 rapid is slightly better
also the essence on the bp wep in that post isnt maxed
ik
@gaunt mason hey hey you still working on your calculator?
P2 rapid is a worse than P5 sundering
are pot levels not even?
i dont understand
Someone was claiming P3 Rapid is better than P5 Sundering not that I really care I'm along way away from building my PHY team rn.
Are you planning on adding the new kits?
the endmin one? it’s still up
the new kits are worse than flints for total damage btw
yvonne players quick question , is the new bp gun home longing better on yvonne than wedge or navigator? and if so is it worth to take over them long term?
Oh you did the math?
Can i see
idr what rapid P5 looked like have to ask @odd wren for that
but P5 bp is like 100% more dmg
tangtang sig/gil/ardelia p1 account
for 6 star selector should i get ardelia p2 or last rite?
I saw calcs for that but who would wanna use a box cutter
flints -> new gear
difference is less noticable if you're not doing on field endmin but still a downgrade
@odd wren ^
P2 Ardelia is a really nice comfort pick, but if you don't have Yvonne you're going to want Last Rite for your Tangtang.
So new character I'd say.
is phys dmg dealt worse than atk%
k wasnt sure cause supports sound good in the long run but yeah not sure if tang tang can main dps as well
thx!
you get more sources of it from your gear than atk% no
games super easy
like iirc flints have phys dmg on them
you can play anyone as a dps
safe to say that Rossi is crit ult-oriented dps? also agi and int
I really want them to make the game harder tho
did u make this sheet
yes but we don't know the exact gear she'll use
mm
so hyper it just depends if u ult before or during boss being staggered
ic
i need to grow some ginseng
nah im
not testing it myself
bc ik my stuff is too messy for that
also i dont have rapid lmao
i think im gonna pick up that wep tho
only get last rite if you're willing to get her sig
welp i already got her :/
@odd wren can u test p5 rapid vs P5 bp wep stagger vs non stagger 
^^ plz
whats her sig?
honestly im fine with it being slightly worse anyways bc at least you can guarantee p5 glorious memory vs rapid
Kravenger
can i just buy it in the shop?
well yeah it just depends on when u ult with chen
u pull
for rapid yea
tho rapid does boost everything not just ult
yea
but also its only during that state
should i go for that or gilbertas weapon do you think?
which is where u do the most dmg
definitely that
I mean phys team staggers like crazy
so it works well
and w the new pieces for phys I think it's slightly better now?
to stagger
i need to figure out how to line up my dmg so i get the stagger once im ready for big burdt
i feel like it doesnt align all too well
oh?
ye phys is winning this patch
single-stat +agi on lifeng is great
where's my lifeng
esp for <p3 and p4+

is gilbertas weapon worth pulling or go for last rites?
last rite
not even close
:/
kk
LR really needs her sig gilberta not so much is more like a want than a need

tbh with p1 i think like
yeha gilberta doesnt need her sig
but its nice
i think when we get more supportive sets it will be better
ye is overkill xd
i gotta make components but i keep being lazy to figure out how to work them in
I used a vid by sciel
its still decent on lr at least
i'll use it for now
i have batteries and syringes
im not looking forward to the new base stuff anymore 😭 3 pipes of xiranite liquid types for a battery sounds horrendous
does it do all 3
at least you can just blueprint if you dont wanna deal wiht it
can send but
i can but i dont like blueprinting unless theyre my own
imagine if this game had no blueprint lmao
u need to make cope component to make the inlet/outlet
i perfer to try as much as i can myself and so far i havent needed
youtube videos and guides have existed
should i still use setless for Laev or go for the hotwork set
telling average gacha game player to manually assemble line for new battery
ah hell nah jigsaw youre trippin
I only have p3 rapid
thank god blueprints exist
whale for P5 u got this
its crazy theyre giving us those batteries WHILE WE ARE STILL AT 90 FERRIUM
In wuling arguably
clearly you should be making cryston parts in wuling mhm
its literally free mats
cryston parts for what tho
you can also artificially boost ore supply
I am confused
50000 zipline tower
I already got it whats next
50k ziplines
metastorage doesn't take mats from the region you take it from
so you could give urself free ferrium in wuling
cold plunge
or free batteries
You transfer cuprium parts
to v4?
To wuling
how do u transfer cupe to wuling
Metastorage
I dont think thats possible
its not
its either wuling to v4 or v4 to wuling
That has to be such an oversight 
LMAO
Yvonne mains coped so hard that v4 has copium parts
wait it's being converted to cuprium?
devs rlly bigbrained there
I see nothing wrong
i cant tell if u play multiple gachas or multiple gachas discords just have ppl with your name
Meta storage go brrr
ts makes no sense 😭
metastorage feels illegal
12.5 more copper per minute 
is there any reason to rush 1.1 story
Fym i already got it
ok so like
I dont think so
sfuck i gotta finish the story and do the chuddy new batteries
does outpost even take the new battery
Probably does at lv3
endfield players when faced with a mild logistical challenge
i think next level it does? idk
I didnt bother playing the game
So idk anything about 1.1 yet
this fucking sucks ok
im gonna have to figure out looping pipe into itself
and its 4 dense og powder
you just pipe copper wastewater into the reactor
then send the green wastewater offshore with the pipe
everyone knows v4s main export is copper
Permanent account damage
me too
well fk I need 34 more

Minor shortage
each run gives 6 so i need to do 6 runs so 2 days worth of stam
bp will give me 20 boxes but I wanna save em for next char I pull
how does it decide what mat for what
is it depending on class
or something
Any thoughts on potential rossi gear once she's out? Is it just gonna be the new MI Sec set + Slab/More ult dmg%?
Cr*t
that's why I will save my boxes lmao
it's so cooked

I will work on essence after ig
how do last rite and yvonne compare now that tangtang is out?
idk LR better
finnaly reached 1m dmg with ember finisher
why screen like that
whats her premium team without gilb
wdym
LR Xaihi Perlica Ardelia
is hdr built in?
no tang tang?
ohh, i couldnt pause it ealier cuz there was cutscene right when that dmg appeared
oh mb uh replace perli
I thought u was asking for F2P team
Ard before perli
like the Yvonne without gilberta questions pre patch 
did we get a bead on tangtang armour sets?
hey he never asked for team order 
Guh
if u ask me where the nearest train station is I'll tell u the location but not telling u it's 20 miles away

Lmao
I believe in u plsss
If you ask for a 6* Ill give you an ember since you didnt specify which one 
exactly
thats exactly who i want though 
Is this why hg was punishing me with back to back to back ember losses
If i lose another 50/50 im chewing your aorta
You can 
Yvonne will fix me up
V4 magically has cuprium thanks to metastorage
What from v4 to wuling? Huh
yes
Lmao
Meta storage go brrr
it's science
Isnt that a bug?

Yvonne mains coped so hard we got copium parts in orig science park
endmin spent too long in the nether realm

expensive af for little reward
Stop being poor
Me neither
save me from poorism
But it exists
i only got bad ones
bp weapon for laevae or gilberta more worth?
MI sec 3 pc. Lynx Slab for extra stat.
Run MI Toolkit (Crit) and BA on both gloves and chest. Can run Crit rate gloves if you want more crit rate to help with set effect up-time
Nop
You need lv12 to be able to do metatransfer. There 2 transfers, regional (Takes mats from 1 region and moves them to another) and meta (Spawns X amount every hour and moves it)
Nature infliction
Oh tbh i dunno where to find that where do i find it
you need to max out the region
Uuh you have to manually switch to meta
gilberta does that with her skill
Go to transfer and reset it. Itll let you swap to meta transfer then
meta only works with stuff you can make in that region iirc
Ok ok
Wait ur tryna do main dps tang tang or like w Yvonne team
I never bothered before lmao
well my tangtang has sig, i was wonderign if bp weapon for gilberta was more worth over lavaes bp weapon cause idk if i need a second team
?
Wtf
again laevs maindps almost always take priority
Its likely a bug/oversight tbh
does it just accept anything within that region's storage
Let the
begin
kk
real enough
The recipe isnt region locked either
how do you unlock metastorage
Theres no water to produce it from start to finish
You'd have to move the Cuprium to slap into a fitting unit
Lv12 rdm
Bug right?
I have no idea
but im at level 12 😭
I just tried ir tbf
Most likely an oversight
i dont see the option for it
eh
Yeah
Technically
Then go set it up

where
technically true bcs cuprium -> fitting machine in v4
The aic
If thats the case why not just meta transfer curpium components?
ohh ok
it is the case and that is what you do lmao
that way you can have 12/m SC Wuling batteries, 6/m Syringe As, and whatever else + Cuprium componetns every hour
prob a dev oversight and not intended so they might patch it eventually
Doing parts better
ngl i kinda want to cuz i need pulls for weapon abnner
theyre calling it the most botched cuprium comp lines of all time
For what? Parts overstock?
are cuprium parts the best item to transfer using metastorage?
Yea
You can only have 4 lines of cuprium and 2 of those go into making bottles, maybe half efficient syringe as?
Uuh idk, it is the funniest i guess
Thank
i still dont see cuprium parts yet, i guess i need ot make it for it to show up
Something like this
Just to make sure, if I don’t have TT signature next best option is bp weapon right?
how do talents interact with gear/weapon requirements that want an effect from a battle/combo skill or ultimate? like if a weapon requires a nature infliction apply from a combo skill, and an operator has an aoe combo skill that only applies lift but with a talent that applies nature infliction if lift is applied to multiple enemies, would that fulfill the weapon requirement?
TT signature is team buff, TT bp is self-buff
different purposes
If you want to ask, does tangtang sucks without her signature, I guess so
It was the point of discussion a day ago
Not really the question, was asking for 2nd best option because I already got her an I don't plan on pulling signature until I know what Rossi signature does
anyone try arclight/gilberta/tangtang main dps/perlica? its pretty comfy electrification boost arts dmg too
i think wedge is the next best option
or if you don't care about her dmg you can use OBJ and ult bot her
hypothetical setup for the question:
Weapon: when the wielder's combo skill applies nature infliction, gain HP
Combo Skill: apply Lift in an area
Talent: If Lift is applied to multiple enemies, apply nature infliction
would the character gain HP if they use their combo skill to proc talent?
does tangtang's haste increase attack speed? or is it just move speed
Move speed I think
move speed only i'm pretty sure
Got bp weapon, gonna hold the bp dupes I have for now
lift isn't a nature infliction
oh
yea with the talent
they've been inconsistent with things like this, so it's hard to tell
it would trigger the healing
so you're saying that talents would fulfill those types of weapon requirements so long as they're tied to the specific skill they want?
it should
unless it has some fucky thing like ardelias sheep
in ardelias case she can't trigger some of the healing things because its talent healing
idk sometimes shit can get weird with whether talents count as the skills they enhance
in this case its looking for the nature infliction instead of the heal proc
tied to a talent it might not
all right, so what you're actually saying is that its inconsistent and on a case by case basis, so we cant give an answer for a general case
for example, Catcher has an enhancement for his ult that gives his ult shockwaves
but they don't actually count as his ult, so link doesn't buff the shockwaves
i'm assuming this is for virtues?
gotcha
@cinder oxide Did some research and testing and I have some interesting information about the new gear in case you might be interested
The new Swordmancer NAV Beacon with 53 strength & 53 arts intensity isn't as clear cut for panda as it appears at first, running two NAV beacons means dropping aethertech set effect for swordmancer set effect and slightly more main attribute
So you trade aethertech's 8% attack and 16-32% physical damage bonus on optimal panda rotations (16% when just ultimate before crush, 32% when ultimate + battle skill on enemy with 4 vulnerability stacks before crush) for swordmancer's 20% stagger efficiency and 52 main attribute, and running Exemplar means you want to be using his battle skill/ultimate before crush which triggers aethertech buffs
Running just one swordmancer NAV beacon while keeping aethertech set means running the aethertech gloves that don't match his stats, although it gives arts intensity. On paper this might seem like a great option since you retain aethertech buffs with more strength, but this is not true because of the new hot work gloves
Assuming fully artificed gear:
3 Aethertech (Plating, Gloves, Stabilizer) + Swordmancer NAV Beacon = 248 strength + 152 arts intensity
3 Aethertech (Plating, Stabilizer, Stabilizer) + Hot Work Gloves = 251 strength + 152 arts intensity
Single beacon panda loses 3 main attribute and is therefore pointless, but there are legitimate reasons to run double beacon with swordmancer set if the slight difference in damage is outweighed by your stagger or ultimate gain efficiency needs, depending on your rotation and boss mechanics
about to reach message limit so I will explain another good gear option for pure damage output in a separate message
p.s. I fix ultimate effiency by farming perplexing medication so ultimate gain is not as much of an issue for me
Hmm I see. I prob will still stick with the lynx gloves for the ult charge but good to know that my guess of new arts intensity kit being kinda worse still holds true
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405423635984027718/1481815955842797668/IMG_0014.png?ex=69b4b026&is=69b35ea6&hm=1f9e290b99b9f42d88fe84a006364ccb3f23bf72f0976b86292cd11f6ce59280&
New dmg reached by copium gear slab. max artice btw
If p2 could be higher
LRult start, Xaihi ult, start yvonne ult, TangTang ult, plunge with yvonne and just watch the numbers fly
super funny
what set are you using on tangtang
bonecrusher with yinglung armour
the new ones
keep in mind my p5/p5 LR is lifting a lot
but she is still a work in progress
ok here is word wall jumpscare number two
For another good gear set I mentioned it's the one I've been running previously, 3 Aethertech + Swordmancer TAC Gloves, everything is the same except you trade 44 arts intensity for 24.9% physical damage bonus. In single rotation fights/speedruns (boss dies in one stagger window, usually 2 crushes or less) especially if you are crit fishing I strongly believe 3 Aethertech + Hot Work Gloves is better for damage since you do more crush damage
If the fight is longer then perhaps the 24.9% physical damage which applies to all of his damage (including the normal 650% modifier in his combo skill) instead of just his crush may overtake the crush-focused hot work gloves gear set, but I'm not sure and the math required to find the answer to that without testing is likely pretty tedious
The two screenshots below are of identical rotations down to even the timing of the finishers in the basic attack sequence, and I repeated them multiple times to verify I got the exact same numbers every time
The one on the right with 475,064 crush + 84,880 normal combo multiplier for 559,944 total is 3 Aethertech + Swormancer TAC Gloves
The one on the left with 519,143 crush + 77,079 normal combo multiplier for 596,222 total is 3 Aethertech + Hot Work Gloves
Panda has a 4/4/3 essence with no potential Exemplar and M3 combo skill, in both pictures you can see he has 3 stacks of arts intensity = 24% attack and 24 arts intensity from Pogranichnik and he has the same buffs/number of stacks on each buff under his healthbar although they are in a different order. Additionally, my TAC gloves are fully artificed but HW gloves have no artificing on will stat so I'm actually missing a bit of damage in the second screenshot, but even then it outdamages TAC gloves by 36,278 or about 6.5% more damage
The damage gap should increase the more damage he deals, so when fully upgraded and if it's a crit the damage difference could go up to 50k or higher
Damn so the new HW gloves are really solid if you aren’t running ult charge gloves
yes very op
Talents are talents and effects applied via talents are only applied via talents.
If a gear set requires something to be applied via skill; the effect being applied from a talent wont procc the gear set
what counts as skill? both combo and battle? what about ult?
thats a separate question btw, not tied to the original question
Everything outside basic attacks are "skills"
gotcha
So battle skills, combo skills, and ult skills
All the new gear is pretty solid ngl. Especially the new non-set pieces. They provide a good match for their respective effects since they're higher than the base effect for other gear
Even the 3rd stat which we had 0 access to good matches for
Issue is u cant run lynx slab if u put the armor if u want the set
well not exactly 0. Kits had a few for like UGE
Did she just... Glitch OHKO the boss?
found it on Reddit
she did
Tangtang using 2% of her power
that was glorious
When the one braincell finally clocks in for work
i'm enjoying her a lot
the fuck did she just do
i'm thinking p1 TangTang is gonna be really good
im scared
lowkey forgot to save up my batteries to insta level my outpost to 3
🤦♂️
now i gotta wait like 3 days
did tangtang frame mog the marble aggeloi?
I was also making a bad joke using the dumb looksmaxxing shit
Gomen anamai @outer ermine
Have you considered dodging
found the ember player
This thing at p5 will have better numbers than p5 sundering and p0 ascent right?
yuh just buy the bp twice
Tangtangis crazy good
With her sign weapon?
Can’t believe they gave her weapon art sus
Why did I pull on Gilberta
😗
Damage taken*
they didn't
Art sus =/= dmg taken although not sure if formula treats them the same
dmg taken is coloquially called vulnerability
Aye so diff mult from susceptability
so yeah theyre different
Cant say that shit here
What the fully artificed int of the new redeemer chest anyone know?
we can 
Vulnerability is what chen inflict
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yeah and its additive to every other dmg taken source given the damage source complies with its requirements 
damage dealt = damage bonus
danage taken = vulnerability/amplification
Can we assume this also applies to endmin?
calling it vulnerability/amplification is the most confusing thing ever cause those are named debuffs/buffs that already exist
no one calls them that
damage taken debuffs are called fragility in the sheet
then ill call it fragile like in arknights
sure that works
the two terms i said are the more coloquially called terms for damage taken debuffs so i wohld describe rhose attributes using general terms
Thats wont work, you basically said chen can inflict damage taken bonus debuff
@cinder oxide @signal palm
Since they both do crushes if we try to assume youe calculations on youe aether tech vs swordmancer can it be assumed as well for endmin that aether is better than swordmancer or its gonna be whole lot of different calculations? Sorry not good at math
Ps. The pic is with the new swordmancer beacon fully artificed
So i have around 263 AI
what's the trimmed medal in the middle of the top row
i have made a mistake to regard vulnerability = amplification since amplification is a distinct BUFF in this game
vuln goes to "fragility" buffs where its a DEBUFF for claritys sake
Makes sense. They really fked with us by releasing multiple one line substat gears
Ultimate Weapon
For getting a 997
Back to essence farming then 
yea
This was a non crit no food crush, almost the same with aethertech 3pc
Since total is 669k sword vs 670k aethertech
Thats not your mistake lol. Your mistake is calling damage taken debuff as vulnerability in this game
Tbf aethertech wasnt built for endmin. You need to overflow a vuln stack to get the full bonus of aethertech which Da Pan usually does
So basically swordmancer better

Always was for endmin
But now that SM has AI
Its even stronger for them
Too bad i lost a lot of atk

But the damage still there
I need high pot thermite now
I need thermite at all 
so, do we have atleast an inkling on what tangtang does and how good is she at it? with this much testing
Got tt sig too early so not worth to roll more
Though I wanted Therm or jet from it
Update on last rite with tang tang?
time whale more lol
Lol
@cinder oxide btw i can start building dapan now
My aethertech gears fullt artificed for him
Hooray
thermite on never rest, brigand also got thermite isnt?
Brigand is the best place to get therm rn
or is it artzy?
Cos it has JET too
oof
Not really, i got these shit two times
That's just luck brother 
yea you should have at least gotten one on that
i got her sig but i pulled for more and got wedged twice
stopped at that lol
I got 7 6* after 50 arsenal pulls, all of them are trash
i was thinking about using arclight with TangTang
I nees to finish chen's new toy first
how is it?
Need to finish etching glorious memory
Glorious memory? The new bp wp?
Yeah
ye
Oh yeah called it ok
kinda fun sword lol
Seriously its so good for chen
very comfy rotations, i arclight spin like 2-3 times in my rotation, electification as far as i know boost arts dmg too and perlika is good at staggering
I kinda regret going for ascent now
Im at 1-1-3
Same my rapid almost full etched
u could swap to avy instead of perlica but i havent tried her tbh
But only p3
Its fine itll prob go on Rossi since I aint pulling her wp banner
The GM that is

nice i will have to try it out
focus on 3rd skill 1st?
What you mean? The 3rd line? Its maxed at 3
nah i mean u go etching the 3rd line first?

hifu u try new redeemer glove?
i mean, do we really want to turn chen into crit fisher 
Why not xd

both of the 6*s are crit so
my comparison on p5 box cutter
max memory is like
around 10% better than max steel
where max ascent is like 15%
little bit of variance depending on who you use in active slot
how much lifeng skill you are doing
etc
no lifeng yet, probably end up as chen soloist
nah, str glove for lr
hey wanna know something funny
TangTang’s ultimate is hybrid damage
The waterspouts are boosted by battle skill damage lines
You thought Rossi was the hybrid unit but no
It was Tangtang all along!
not yet, how good r these stat sticks anyway 
Not bad tbh if it fits
surge tide vs str glove, difference 8.8k
But time will tell if they fit in or not
both non artific

should probably stop buying em





