#theorycrafting

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pallid citrus
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Stanza?

edgy crater
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does anyone already tried glorius memory with chen?

neon knot
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yeah, some of the gear lines are unique to the new sets

honest hill
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oh that's cooked

dusk isle
honest hill
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why don't endfield have something similar to wuwa

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media server

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but like after patch is out to test gears

bronze plume
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I mean that ores been a thing since cbt1

smoky quarry
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I wasn't debating whether it's new or not

bronze plume
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I mean

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Whats wrong woth updating the factory

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The water system we just got in 1.1 was in cbt1 not surprising we got it added

smoky quarry
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It's inconvinient in a lot of ways

bronze plume
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How?

smoky quarry
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Like having 2 types of components for the gear in the same region and same level

bronze plume
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That just means you need to make 2 different component types

smoky quarry
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also cuprium is harder to manufacture since it messes with batteries and syringe production at the same time, and it's not compatible with xiranite components at 100% output

smoky quarry
bronze plume
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I mean sure but at the same time id rather the factpry have new stuff added then nothing

sleek lark
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what set for fish man?

smoky quarry
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Factory is a jebait anyway

bronze plume
sleek lark
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alesh

smoky quarry
sleek lark
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so no set huh

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also should i take alesh out for someone else? no gilb

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since he doesnt even combo in this team

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and is mostly an ult bot

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maybe ardelia i was thinking

marble condor
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Gilberta if you have her

sleek lark
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no gilberta

bronze plume
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They just said they dont have her

marble condor
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Ah my bad

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Alesh is fine

sleek lark
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so just accept he will get ult on his own eventually?

marble condor
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Pretty much no Gil kinda slams you with him

sleek lark
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so since hes not comboing aka fishing do i want intellect still?

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like wouldnt be better to trade first for second

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since it still gives intellect

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and theres not set anyways

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like so

vivid hamlet
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any tech for yvonne/gilb/tangtang core?

honest hill
warm galleon
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Last banner for it go go go

quartz horizon
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should i go for another 12-

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120

quaint matrix
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should i use new chest on wulfguard?

somber apex
quaint matrix
somber apex
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what does your current one do?

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@quaint matrix

quaint matrix
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it says aim to 232% er

somber apex
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the one you have is not the tide fall armor

quaint matrix
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yeah but i'm asking should i replace tidefall for new one for extra er?

dawn shard
# quaint matrix same

what does with OBJ mean there? 232 er on top of what obj provides, or with it included

somber apex
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well if you are going for extra you should try the new Swordmancer ligh armor

quaint matrix
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i have 226 rn with it

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and his wpns is not maxed yet even

dawn shard
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ye, if it werent factored in thats a shitload of er to hit which is why i was confused

honest hill
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are the math ppl still tryna find out which gear for tang2 is best

drifting quest
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yes

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dont expect anything to be solved until like

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at least next week

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maybe the week after

somber apex
lean pawn
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Bruh another dating sim this time with tang tang

somber apex
lean pawn
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I dont have her

somber apex
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there

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im also showing my current gear setup for you guys to check

lean pawn
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They do advertise her booty rather often

somber apex
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actually no they went quite time on her

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excpet that part once you get to wuling and meet her for the first time

lean pawn
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Yep that

hollow wyvern
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I think TT gearing just sucks unless you run low ER

somber apex
lean pawn
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Soup soup

hollow wyvern
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You go ER body then 3pc xira, or just go no set but higher atk

oak inlet
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Is this currently the best option for DPS Pog? 2x lynx slabs, hot work gloves and xiranite armor?

somber apex
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currently from what ive serched TT's best gear is bonekrusha since you want to use her combo has much has possible to get max Sprouts fast

drifting quest
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its one of several options or varying viability

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as well as sub sets within each gear set

hollow wyvern
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I don't think there's enough ER in bone

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Body + offset for ER doesn't seem enough

dry kindle
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P4 stanza EurekaConvultion should probably stop buying em

torn pilot
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tangtang seems really good

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im really enjoying using her

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seems like a more direct upgrade for LR than for yvonne tho

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LR + tangtang seems like a really efficient cryo infliction core

smoky quarry
somber apex
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dude it supper fun how fast you can build up 4 cryo stack with her

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also any ideas for the last slot it either for Perlica or Ardelia but if you have any more sugestions im open for debate

smoky quarry
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🦊

somber apex
smoky quarry
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you just need her ult and combo

somber apex
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ok ill try

tough nest
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did LR gear change?

somber apex
# tough nest did LR gear change?

well its mostly the same: Frontier armor and the rest is tide surge gautlets and o2 tanks, but if you have her at good potencial on her you can try Bonekrusha with Seeker of dark lung

tough nest
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still thinking about tang tang on the team, i'm running gil + perlica at the moment and it works well

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not sure it's worth potentially 120 pulls

tough nest
somber apex
tough nest
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nope, still deciding if i'm pulling

somber apex
tough nest
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do you use her skill often?

somber apex
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u'know the whole fling thing then plugging into the ground you can simple skip that part entirely

somber apex
tough nest
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my favorite thing about her from playing the combat drill is the basic attacks, she feels amazing to hit with lol

somber apex
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and since Lr and TT give SP LR from her Bs and TT from her Cs you can get LR's secone Bs in no time

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dude Lr is the "main dps" but TT feel amazing during combat so i made her my main operator when using Lr team XP

tough nest
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yeah i can see myself mostly controlling tang instead

lean pawn
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Hmm I like that theres still no ferrium mineral bed

somber apex
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also LR feels slow and TT is just EVERYWHERE and NOWHERE at once also if you use TT indoors its pretty funny since the camera goes everywhere and you cant see bolloks

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humm guys correct me if im wrong but isn't TT also called Child born from water

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or smth like that

gritty olive
honest hill
proven mauve
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has anyone done calcs on how much damage khravenger is responsible for on last rite

honest hill
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last rite needs sig

drifting quest
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15-40% back in 1.0

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will be different now in 1.1

honest hill
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less or more

drifting quest
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could be either

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i havent looked at it

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new gear new teams

honest hill
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tt lr xaihi perli

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hmm

proven mauve
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explains why she feels so copey with exemplar lmao

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im surprised theres not a fancy tc mastersheet yet

drifting quest
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i mean thats from sig to prince

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to exemplar is wayyyyyy more

drifting quest
proven mauve
honest hill
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pull sig

proven mauve
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wuwa had such a nice spreadsheet when i was playing

honest hill
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or don't play her

drifting quest
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wuwa is a like

honest hill
drifting quest
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entirely different game

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not comparable

honest hill
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yea

odd wren
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Man i lost my 50/50 xD

honest hill
proven mauve
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combat systems are pretty similar no?

odd wren
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I wonder if this energy - 15%

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Is good

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For ult

dusk isle
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Lmao 2nd p4 pog i saw today

royal knoll
drifting quest
proven mauve
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if anything i feel like endfield is simpler

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less variability with gearing rng

drifting quest
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it really is not

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simpler

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lmao

honest hill
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it's not simpler

odd wren
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@honest hill im close to p5 p5 pog

honest hill
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smh

odd wren
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I need to farm ginseng and start doing some maths with endmin new set lma

honest hill
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oh ye

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do that

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farm like a peasant

odd wren
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Nah i just need them fillets

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I have like 300 ginseng atm xd

honest hill
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damn

daring dove
gritty olive
odd wren
smoky quarry
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so much tokens wasted

odd wren
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But yeah since i have it i might as well use it over p0 thermite and also its kinda good with my current setup where in im using this

lean pawn
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Clue 7 anyone?

odd wren
lean pawn
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truly the endmin

odd wren
daring dove
drifting quest
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lmao

odd wren
lilac bloom
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judging by the bp weapon's effect rapid ascent should work on rossi pretty well shouldnt it?

daring dove
lilac bloom
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ig not but theyre just, really similar

odd wren
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Glorious memory seems good with chen at p5 xD

honest hill
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it's better than sundering

lilac bloom
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idk if it beats out the attack buff from sundering

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at p5 maybe

odd wren
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And i dont have p5 rapid

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So yeah xd

lilac bloom
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rapid has the downside of being main attribute instead of agility

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so lower cieling there

honest hill
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P5 Rapid > P5 BP > P5 Sundering Steel I think

odd wren
smoky quarry
honest hill
lilac bloom
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as long as youre using chen skill the uptime on that ult dmg bonus is perma aint it

honest hill
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yeah battle skill and combo skill

lilac bloom
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her combo skill or battle

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yea

honest hill
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full uptime

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near 100% ult dmg bonus

odd wren
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Its 100%

smoky quarry
lilac bloom
odd wren
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Tho the bp one really the beat option right now if you cant afford or dont wanna get a p5 rapid

lilac bloom
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they should have the same base dmg

stone stratus
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hey so i wanna use my 6 star selector, i care about lore and whats pog like tldr lore? i normally go for husbandos but im not sure im sold on him

honest hill
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yeah

lilac bloom
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getting p5 rapid sounds like aids 😭

honest hill
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idk

smoky quarry
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that's about it

odd wren
stone stratus
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hellagur?

honest hill
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I don't have rapid to think about it

lean pawn
lilac bloom
daring dove
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Tomorrow I should be able to build ultimate Tangtang minus artificing anyway I'm already really impressed with her an I don't even have her proper gear crafted yet.

smoky quarry
odd wren
lilac bloom
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daamn

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endmin would have p5 endmin sword lol

odd wren
lilac bloom
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i have p0

lean pawn
lilac bloom
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its still enough honestly 😭

odd wren
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I got cancer

smoky quarry
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John endfield

lilac bloom
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the sword that gives you cancer

odd wren
smoky quarry
lilac bloom
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tbh rossi bp sword seems like a decent pickup

daring dove
# lean pawn So is she good

I mean yeah but keep in mind she's P5/P5 for me so milege may vary. That said I'm using the wrong artifact set bonuses rn, so I imagine a fully built P0+P0 Tangtang will correct pieces should perform similar.

lilac bloom
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i might grab itand try to raise its pots

daring dove
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Having Gilberta is nice as well.

daring dove
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I'll get 40 extrea agility for free tomorrow an there's better artificing pieces to come.

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An better gear sets.

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She wipes out enemies in seconds in openworld super comfy.

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An the fact she triggers her own combo skill is so nice.

proven mauve
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what do u think about tangtang for last rite now that she's released

drifting quest
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we still dont know enough

proven mauve
dusk isle
proven mauve
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just not enough testing yet?

drifting quest
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not enough tc, not enough testing

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we dont even know tt gear stuff yet

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let alone rots, teams, etc

odd wren
drifting quest
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tangtang has a couple gameplay altering bugs too

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cough 20 infliction stacks cough

daring dove
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But that does mean you need her & her sig.

placid fossil
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which set to put on tangtang?

drifting quest
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we dont know yet

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if you want a temp set new bonekrusha gear is generic enough

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just dont artifice

honest hill
drifting quest
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days to weeks

stone stratus
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so theres no pog lore atm?

drifting quest
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as with the last time you asked

honest hill
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damn okay ig I will just use bonekrusha temporarily

daring dove
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Only problem I would say is Tangtang's value is hurt more by not having sig than any other character I have seen so far. Maybe outside of LR but even then I think Tangtang wants sig more.

honest hill
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i still working on essence

dusk isle
terse valley
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so any update on rossi?

drifting quest
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you have a guaranteed 3/3/

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just pop it

honest hill
drifting quest
terse valley
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aw

dusk isle
daring dove
dusk isle
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Sunk cost

proven mauve
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they're not gonna release her numbers before she drops

honest hill
proven mauve
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and you're not gonna find leak info in the official server lmao

dusk isle
honest hill
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lmao

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I am working on M3 her ult as well

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her BS is M3 rn

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not even a t cred issue

daring dove
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I actually think I already have 3/3 match essences for every decent 6* weapon in the game now. Problem is now it's hard to justify farming for more essences when you're not collecting them for new weapons at the same time. 108_yaehmm

honest hill
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it's the boss mat issue

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u need so much

honest hill
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I will work on chen ig

drifting quest
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i gotta farm new essence for chen

honest hill
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maybe solo chen will make me happy

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my big issue w chen was that box cutter

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now we got a decent looking bp wep

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actually I have to work on perli

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smh

odd wren
daring dove
# honest hill I will work on chen ig

Yeah I'm building Ember now that Tangtang is done. Then I'mma use the remaining time I have left to hopefully start prefarming for Rossi ascenion materials (already got essence).

terse valley
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glorious memory is better than sundereel?

daring dove
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That said I'm still not sure if Rossi is worth rn.

honest hill
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idk

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rossi is

lilac bloom
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its better than rapid ascent

honest hill
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well

honest hill
lilac bloom
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equal pot

honest hill
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I am pretty sure P5 rapid beats it

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hmm

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lemme look

odd wren
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Oh wow

lilac bloom
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thats comparing both at p2

odd wren
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So my chen is really going hyper

lilac bloom
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the new wep has

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agility

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insgead of main attribute

terse valley
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what about sundering steel

lilac bloom
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so your attack will be higher off of that alone

odd wren
lilac bloom
lilac bloom
honest hill
lilac bloom
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for their secondary

terse valley
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my sundering is p0 PerliDerp

golden rapids
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P1 LR is good? or not huge difference

odd wren
lilac bloom
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wait

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ohh yeah a flat atk%

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i didnt catch that somehow

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also its perma uptime

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instead of being on stagger

honest hill
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P3 rapid > P5 sundering > P2 rapid
P5 rapid > P5 BP > P5 sundering

gaunt mason
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p5 rapid should be pretty much equal to p5 bp

honest hill
odd wren
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@honest hill you lied

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I cant buy bp levels

honest hill
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but I think P5 rapid better

lilac bloom
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why does p5 rapid beat p5 bp but p2 bp beats p2 rapid

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what

honest hill
honest hill
lilac bloom
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they were equal pot

honest hill
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at P2

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not P5

lilac bloom
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yeah

honest hill
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P5 they might be same or rapid is better

lilac bloom
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they dont mention p5 in that post?

honest hill
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yeah I'm saying P5 rapid is slightly better

lilac bloom
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also the essence on the bp wep in that post isnt maxed

honest hill
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ik

odd wren
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@gaunt mason hey hey you still working on your calculator?

honest hill
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P2 rapid is a worse than P5 sundering

lilac bloom
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i dont understand

daring dove
odd wren
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Are you planning on adding the new kits?

gaunt mason
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the new kits are worse than flints for total damage btw

strange iris
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yvonne players quick question , is the new bp gun home longing better on yvonne than wedge or navigator? and if so is it worth to take over them long term?

odd wren
honest hill
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but P5 bp is like 100% more dmg

stone stratus
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tangtang sig/gil/ardelia p1 account
for 6 star selector should i get ardelia p2 or last rite?

honest hill
gaunt mason
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flints -> new gear
difference is less noticable if you're not doing on field endmin but still a downgrade

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@odd wren ^

lilac bloom
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left rapid right is glorious memory

daring dove
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So new character I'd say.

honest hill
stone stratus
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k wasnt sure cause supports sound good in the long run but yeah not sure if tang tang can main dps as well

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thx!

lilac bloom
drifting quest
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games super easy

lilac bloom
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like iirc flints have phys dmg on them

drifting quest
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you can play anyone as a dps

honest hill
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ig it depends if u use ult when boss is staggered

terse valley
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safe to say that Rossi is crit ult-oriented dps? also agi and int

warped sorrel
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I really want them to make the game harder tho

gaunt mason
gaunt mason
honest hill
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so hyper it just depends if u ult before or during boss being staggered

lilac bloom
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ic

honest hill
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ofc for most ppl who don't save for boss staggered

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then

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bp is better

lilac bloom
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i need to grow some ginseng

honest hill
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oh u going to try

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critting

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w BP wep

lilac bloom
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nah im

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not testing it myself

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bc ik my stuff is too messy for that

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also i dont have rapid lmao

honest hill
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only endmin has

dry kindle
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Who funding my 5+6 fangyi

lilac bloom
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i think im gonna pick up that wep tho

proven mauve
stone stratus
honest hill
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@odd wren can u test p5 rapid vs P5 bp wep stagger vs non stagger PerliFumo

lilac bloom
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^^ plz

stone stratus
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whats her sig?

lilac bloom
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honestly im fine with it being slightly worse anyways bc at least you can guarantee p5 glorious memory vs rapid

honest hill
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Kravenger

stone stratus
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can i just buy it in the shop?

honest hill
honest hill
lilac bloom
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tho rapid does boost everything not just ult

honest hill
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yea

lilac bloom
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but also its only during that state

stone stratus
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should i go for that or gilbertas weapon do you think?

honest hill
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which is where u do the most dmg

proven mauve
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definitely that

honest hill
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I mean phys team staggers like crazy

lilac bloom
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yea it does

honest hill
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so it works well

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and w the new pieces for phys I think it's slightly better now?

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to stagger

lilac bloom
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i need to figure out how to line up my dmg so i get the stagger once im ready for big burdt

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i feel like it doesnt align all too well

tight haven
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the new pieces for phys

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are incredible

lilac bloom
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oh?

honest hill
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ye phys is winning this patch

tight haven
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single-stat +agi on lifeng is great

honest hill
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where's my lifeng

tight haven
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esp for <p3 and p4+

honest hill
stone stratus
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is gilbertas weapon worth pulling or go for last rites?

lilac bloom
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shit im running xiranite though

proven mauve
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not even close

lilac bloom
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:/

stone stratus
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kk

honest hill
lilac bloom
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tbh with p1 i think like

stone stratus
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oh wow rip well i got a 6 star just not her weapon

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sunderd prince

lilac bloom
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yeha gilberta doesnt need her sig

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but its nice

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i think when we get more supportive sets it will be better

honest hill
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who does tt replace in lr team anyways

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is it perli

lilac bloom
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bc rn delivery + xiranite is too much

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uhh

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kinda

honest hill
drifting quest
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i gotta make components but i keep being lazy to figure out how to work them in

proven mauve
stone stratus
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i'll use it for now

drifting quest
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i have batteries and syringes

lilac bloom
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im not looking forward to the new base stuff anymore 😭 3 pipes of xiranite liquid types for a battery sounds horrendous

drifting quest
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does it do all 3

honest hill
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ye

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all of it

proven mauve
honest hill
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can send but

lilac bloom
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i can but i dont like blueprinting unless theyre my own

twilit quail
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imagine if this game had no blueprint lmao

honest hill
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u need to make cope component to make the inlet/outlet

lilac bloom
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i perfer to try as much as i can myself and so far i havent needed

lilac bloom
simple atlas
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should i still use setless for Laev or go for the hotwork set

honest hill
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the vid didn't show it so I made a temporary one

twilit quail
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telling average gacha game player to manually assemble line for new battery

lilac bloom
honest hill
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thank god blueprints exist

honest hill
lilac bloom
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its crazy theyre giving us those batteries WHILE WE ARE STILL AT 90 FERRIUM

honest hill
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tbh

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ferrium is useless rn

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well

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u don't need more

lilac bloom
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In wuling arguably

honest hill
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metastorage feels useless

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what am i going to transfer to wuling

lilac bloom
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clearly you should be making cryston parts in wuling mhm

proven mauve
honest hill
proven mauve
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you can also artificially boost ore supply

honest hill
lilac bloom
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50000 zipline tower

honest hill
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nah u crazy

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can u do it for me

dusk isle
honest hill
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50k ziplines

proven mauve
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metastorage doesn't take mats from the region you take it from

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so you could give urself free ferrium in wuling

lilac bloom
proven mauve
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or free batteries

dry kindle
honest hill
dry kindle
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To wuling

honest hill
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how do u transfer cupe to wuling

dry kindle
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Metastorage

dusk isle
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I dont think thats possible

honest hill
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its not

dry kindle
honest hill
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its either wuling to v4 or v4 to wuling

dusk isle
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That has to be such an oversight PerliWheeze

proven mauve
dry kindle
dusk isle
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Yvonne mains coped so hard that v4 has copium parts

honest hill
proven mauve
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devs rlly bigbrained there

honest hill
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wtf

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how is cuprium in v4

dry kindle
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I see nothing wrong

proven mauve
# dry kindle

i cant tell if u play multiple gachas or multiple gachas discords just have ppl with your name

dry kindle
honest hill
proven mauve
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metastorage feels illegal

dusk isle
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12.5 more copper per minute PerliFumo

honest hill
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tomorrow

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next lv for outpost

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if there is one

proven mauve
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is there any reason to rush 1.1 story

dusk isle
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Fym i already got it

lilac bloom
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ok so like

dusk isle
honest hill
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is what I am saying

lilac bloom
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sfuck i gotta finish the story and do the chuddy new batteries

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does outpost even take the new battery

dusk isle
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Probably does at lv3

twilit quail
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endfield players when faced with a mild logistical challenge

honest hill
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i think next level it does? idk

dusk isle
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I didnt bother playing the game

dusk isle
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So idk anything about 1.1 yet

honest hill
lilac bloom
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this fucking sucks ok

honest hill
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cuz last time I checked

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I was lv 3

lilac bloom
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im gonna have to figure out looping pipe into itself

honest hill
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yeah.. good luck

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bp saved me

dusk isle
#

Maybe ill bp it idk yet

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I have to actually mine copper to do stuff first

lilac bloom
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and its 4 dense og powder

honest hill
#

okay ye lv 3 should take new bat

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ye this makes no sense

twilit quail
#

you just pipe copper wastewater into the reactor

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then send the green wastewater offshore with the pipe

dry kindle
#

Just be me and still not have lv3 outpost

proven mauve
#

everyone knows v4s main export is copper

dry kindle
#

Permanent account damage

proven mauve
#

bricked

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go play genshin

honest hill
#

well fk I need 34 more

dusk isle
honest hill
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bp will give me 20 boxes but I wanna save em for next char I pull

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how does it decide what mat for what

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is it depending on class

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or something

dry kindle
#

Its just dartboard

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Probably

glass birch
#

Any thoughts on potential rossi gear once she's out? Is it just gonna be the new MI Sec set + Slab/More ult dmg%?

dry kindle
#

Cr*t

honest hill
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it's so cooked

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I will work on essence after ig

native flower
#

how do last rite and yvonne compare now that tangtang is out?

warped sinew
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finnaly reached 1m dmg with ember finisher

honest hill
round topaz
warped sinew
lilac bloom
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i think its an issue with hdr

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if u dont have hdr it looks crazy dark

honest hill
#

is hdr built in?

round topaz
warped sinew
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ohh, i couldnt pause it ealier cuz there was cutscene right when that dmg appeared

honest hill
#

I thought u was asking for F2P team

dusk isle
honest hill
#

like the Yvonne without gilberta questions pre patch PerliWheeze

potent hornet
#

did we get a bead on tangtang armour sets?

honest hill
dusk isle
#

Guh

honest hill
#

if u ask me where the nearest train station is I'll tell u the location but not telling u it's 20 miles away

odd wren
honest hill
dusk isle
proven mauve
dusk isle
#

Is this why hg was punishing me with back to back to back ember losses

honest hill
#

yes

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u didn't ask the rite questions

dusk isle
lilac bloom
dry kindle
honest hill
dusk isle
# odd wren

Are you transferring cuprium parts with metastorage

dusk isle
#

You can ICANT

honest hill
odd wren
dusk isle
#

V4 magically has cuprium thanks to metastorage

odd wren
honest hill
dry kindle
honest hill
#

it's science

dusk isle
odd wren
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Isnt that a bug?

honest hill
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don't question it

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shhh

dry kindle
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🗣️

odd wren
dusk isle
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Yvonne mains coped so hard we got copium parts in orig science park

honest hill
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endmin spent too long in the nether realm

odd wren
honest hill
#

ye I won't M3 CS

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for 1s cd

dry kindle
#

Why not

honest hill
#

expensive af for little reward

dry kindle
#

Stop being poor

smoky quarry
dusk isle
honest hill
dusk isle
#

But it exists

lyric rain
#

Any good recommendations Yvonne gearing?

proven mauve
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i only got bad ones

stone stratus
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bp weapon for laevae or gilberta more worth?

proven mauve
#

id do laev

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mdps takes prio almost always

glass birch
odd wren
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Baited

proven mauve
stone stratus
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opus effect looks really good though for tang tang team

odd wren
#

Isnt regional meta?

dusk isle
#

Nop

glass birch
# odd wren Isnt regional meta?

You need lv12 to be able to do metatransfer. There 2 transfers, regional (Takes mats from 1 region and moves them to another) and meta (Spawns X amount every hour and moves it)

proven mauve
#

regional is regional

honest hill
proven mauve
#

meta is meta

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🗿

odd wren
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Oh tbh i dunno where to find that where do i find it

proven mauve
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you need to max out the region

odd wren
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Im maxed out

dusk isle
#

Uuh you have to manually switch to meta

stone stratus
glass birch
boreal crane
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meta only works with stuff you can make in that region iirc

odd wren
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Ok ok

honest hill
odd wren
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I never bothered before lmao

stone stratus
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well my tangtang has sig, i was wonderign if bp weapon for gilberta was more worth over lavaes bp weapon cause idk if i need a second team

boreal crane
odd wren
proven mauve
glass birch
boreal crane
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does it just accept anything within that region's storage

dry kindle
#

I mean you can produce it technically

dusk isle
boreal crane
dry kindle
#

The recipe isnt region locked either

lilac bloom
#

how do you unlock metastorage

glass birch
dusk isle
lyric rain
odd wren
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I have no idea

lilac bloom
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but im at level 12 😭

odd wren
#

I just tried ir tbf

dusk isle
#

Most likely an oversight

lilac bloom
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i dont see the option for it

boreal crane
#

eh

dusk isle
dry kindle
lilac bloom
#

where

boreal crane
#

technically true bcs cuprium -> fitting machine in v4

dusk isle
#

The aic

boreal crane
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porting cuprium from wuling

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i see the vision

glass birch
#

If thats the case why not just meta transfer curpium components?

lilac bloom
#

ohh ok

proven mauve
glass birch
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that way you can have 12/m SC Wuling batteries, 6/m Syringe As, and whatever else + Cuprium componetns every hour

proven mauve
#

prob a dev oversight and not intended so they might patch it eventually

dry kindle
sleek lark
soft tendon
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theyre calling it the most botched cuprium comp lines of all time

dry kindle
#

Even tho we probably just end up with 50k spare anyway

glass birch
lilac bloom
#

are cuprium parts the best item to transfer using metastorage?

honest hill
#

Yea

glass birch
#

You can only have 4 lines of cuprium and 2 of those go into making bottles, maybe half efficient syringe as?

dusk isle
#

Uuh idk, it is the funniest i guess

glass birch
dry kindle
lilac bloom
#

i still dont see cuprium parts yet, i guess i need ot make it for it to show up

drifting berry
#

Just to make sure, if I don’t have TT signature next best option is bp weapon right?

pure plover
#

how do talents interact with gear/weapon requirements that want an effect from a battle/combo skill or ultimate? like if a weapon requires a nature infliction apply from a combo skill, and an operator has an aoe combo skill that only applies lift but with a talent that applies nature infliction if lift is applied to multiple enemies, would that fulfill the weapon requirement?

smoky quarry
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different purposes

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If you want to ask, does tangtang sucks without her signature, I guess so

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It was the point of discussion a day ago

drifting berry
#

Not really the question, was asking for 2nd best option because I already got her an I don't plan on pulling signature until I know what Rossi signature does

stone stratus
#

anyone try arclight/gilberta/tangtang main dps/perlica? its pretty comfy electrification boost arts dmg too

potent hornet
#

or if you don't care about her dmg you can use OBJ and ult bot her

pure plover
#

hypothetical setup for the question:

Weapon: when the wielder's combo skill applies nature infliction, gain HP
Combo Skill: apply Lift in an area
Talent: If Lift is applied to multiple enemies, apply nature infliction

would the character gain HP if they use their combo skill to proc talent?

normal tangle
#

does tangtang's haste increase attack speed? or is it just move speed

drifting berry
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Move speed I think

potent hornet
#

move speed only i'm pretty sure

drifting berry
#

Got bp weapon, gonna hold the bp dupes I have for now

potent hornet
#

oh

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yea with the talent

normal tangle
potent hornet
#

it would trigger the healing

pure plover
potent hornet
#

it should

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unless it has some fucky thing like ardelias sheep

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in ardelias case she can't trigger some of the healing things because its talent healing

gritty briar
potent hornet
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in this case its looking for the nature infliction instead of the heal proc

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tied to a talent it might not

pure plover
#

all right, so what you're actually saying is that its inconsistent and on a case by case basis, so we cant give an answer for a general case

gritty briar
#

for example, Catcher has an enhancement for his ult that gives his ult shockwaves
but they don't actually count as his ult, so link doesn't buff the shockwaves

potent hornet
pure plover
#

no

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just a general question

potent hornet
#

gotcha

signal palm
#

@cinder oxide Did some research and testing and I have some interesting information about the new gear in case you might be interested

The new Swordmancer NAV Beacon with 53 strength & 53 arts intensity isn't as clear cut for panda as it appears at first, running two NAV beacons means dropping aethertech set effect for swordmancer set effect and slightly more main attribute

So you trade aethertech's 8% attack and 16-32% physical damage bonus on optimal panda rotations (16% when just ultimate before crush, 32% when ultimate + battle skill on enemy with 4 vulnerability stacks before crush) for swordmancer's 20% stagger efficiency and 52 main attribute, and running Exemplar means you want to be using his battle skill/ultimate before crush which triggers aethertech buffs

Running just one swordmancer NAV beacon while keeping aethertech set means running the aethertech gloves that don't match his stats, although it gives arts intensity. On paper this might seem like a great option since you retain aethertech buffs with more strength, but this is not true because of the new hot work gloves

Assuming fully artificed gear:
3 Aethertech (Plating, Gloves, Stabilizer) + Swordmancer NAV Beacon = 248 strength + 152 arts intensity
3 Aethertech (Plating, Stabilizer, Stabilizer) + Hot Work Gloves = 251 strength + 152 arts intensity

Single beacon panda loses 3 main attribute and is therefore pointless, but there are legitimate reasons to run double beacon with swordmancer set if the slight difference in damage is outweighed by your stagger or ultimate gain efficiency needs, depending on your rotation and boss mechanics

about to reach message limit so I will explain another good gear option for pure damage output in a separate message

p.s. I fix ultimate effiency by farming perplexing medication so ultimate gain is not as much of an issue for me

cinder oxide
potent hornet
#

trimmed first try

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TangTang, LR, Yvonne, Xaihi

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.bestgirl

potent hornet
#

LRult start, Xaihi ult, start yvonne ult, TangTang ult, plunge with yvonne and just watch the numbers fly

#

super funny

placid fossil
#

what set are you using on tangtang

potent hornet
#

bonecrusher with yinglung armour

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the new ones

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keep in mind my p5/p5 LR is lifting a lot

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but she is still a work in progress

placid fossil
#

oh

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that is a big difference

signal palm
# cinder oxide Hmm I see. I prob will still stick with the lynx gloves for the ult charge but g...

ok here is word wall jumpscare number two

For another good gear set I mentioned it's the one I've been running previously, 3 Aethertech + Swordmancer TAC Gloves, everything is the same except you trade 44 arts intensity for 24.9% physical damage bonus. In single rotation fights/speedruns (boss dies in one stagger window, usually 2 crushes or less) especially if you are crit fishing I strongly believe 3 Aethertech + Hot Work Gloves is better for damage since you do more crush damage

If the fight is longer then perhaps the 24.9% physical damage which applies to all of his damage (including the normal 650% modifier in his combo skill) instead of just his crush may overtake the crush-focused hot work gloves gear set, but I'm not sure and the math required to find the answer to that without testing is likely pretty tedious

The two screenshots below are of identical rotations down to even the timing of the finishers in the basic attack sequence, and I repeated them multiple times to verify I got the exact same numbers every time

The one on the right with 475,064 crush + 84,880 normal combo multiplier for 559,944 total is 3 Aethertech + Swormancer TAC Gloves
The one on the left with 519,143 crush + 77,079 normal combo multiplier for 596,222 total is 3 Aethertech + Hot Work Gloves

Panda has a 4/4/3 essence with no potential Exemplar and M3 combo skill, in both pictures you can see he has 3 stacks of arts intensity = 24% attack and 24 arts intensity from Pogranichnik and he has the same buffs/number of stacks on each buff under his healthbar although they are in a different order. Additionally, my TAC gloves are fully artificed but HW gloves have no artificing on will stat so I'm actually missing a bit of damage in the second screenshot, but even then it outdamages TAC gloves by 36,278 or about 6.5% more damage

The damage gap should increase the more damage he deals, so when fully upgraded and if it's a crit the damage difference could go up to 50k or higher

cinder oxide
signal palm
#

yes very op

glass birch
pure plover
#

thats a separate question btw, not tied to the original question

glass birch
#

Everything outside basic attacks are "skills"

pure plover
#

gotcha

glass birch
#

So battle skills, combo skills, and ult skills

glass birch
#

Even the 3rd stat which we had 0 access to good matches for

quasi merlin
glass birch
#

well not exactly 0. Kits had a few for like UGE

proud vector
#

Sooo TT is tier -1?

glass birch
proud vector
#

PerliStare found it on Reddit

potent hornet
#

she did

proud vector
#

Tangtang using 2% of her power

potent hornet
#

that was glorious

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When the one braincell finally clocks in for work

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i'm enjoying her a lot

terse valley
proud vector
#

You think I know??

potent hornet
#

i'm thinking p1 TangTang is gonna be really good

summer flicker
#

she the best dps in the game

proven mauve
#

im scared

sterile herald
#

lowkey forgot to save up my batteries to insta level my outpost to 3

#

🤦‍♂️

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now i gotta wait like 3 days

rugged star
proud vector
#

No clue

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Original source

rugged star
#

I was also making a bad joke using the dumb looksmaxxing shit

dry mason
#

Gomen anamai @outer ermine

dry kindle
dry mason
dry kindle
potent hornet
cinder oxide
#

This thing at p5 will have better numbers than p5 sundering and p0 ascent right?

terse valley
#

yuh just buy the bp twice

green cipher
#

Tangtangis crazy good

stone thunder
#

Can’t believe they gave her weapon art sus

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Why did I pull on Gilberta

#

😗

glass birch
normal tangle
cinder oxide
#

Art sus =/= dmg taken although not sure if formula treats them the same

gritty olive
cinder oxide
#

Aye so diff mult from susceptability

gritty olive
#

so yeah theyre different

compact bridge
cinder oxide
#

What the fully artificed int of the new redeemer chest anyone know?

gritty olive
compact bridge
gritty olive
gritty olive
#

damage dealt = damage bonus
danage taken = vulnerability/amplification

odd wren
gritty briar
#

no one calls them that

#

damage taken debuffs are called fragility in the sheet

gritty olive
#

then ill call it fragile like in arknights

gritty briar
#

sure that works

gritty olive
#

the two terms i said are the more coloquially called terms for damage taken debuffs so i wohld describe rhose attributes using general terms

compact bridge
odd wren
#

@cinder oxide @signal palm

Since they both do crushes if we try to assume youe calculations on youe aether tech vs swordmancer can it be assumed as well for endmin that aether is better than swordmancer or its gonna be whole lot of different calculations? Sorry not good at math

Ps. The pic is with the new swordmancer beacon fully artificed

So i have around 263 AI

umbral galleon
gritty olive
cinder oxide
cinder oxide
umbral galleon
#

Back to essence farming then PerliWaaaaa

potent hornet
odd wren
compact bridge
cinder oxide
cinder oxide
#

But now that SM has AI

#

Its even stronger for them

odd wren
#

Too bad i lost a lot of atk

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But the damage still there

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I need high pot thermite now

cinder oxide
#

I need thermite at all PerliDerp

shut cobalt
#

so, do we have atleast an inkling on what tangtang does and how good is she at it? with this much testing

cinder oxide
#

Got tt sig too early so not worth to roll more

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Though I wanted Therm or jet from it

molten star
#

Update on last rite with tang tang?

edgy crater
odd wren
#

Lol

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@cinder oxide btw i can start building dapan now

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My aethertech gears fullt artificed for him

cinder oxide
#

Hooray

edgy crater
#

thermite on never rest, brigand also got thermite isnt?

cinder oxide
edgy crater
#

or is it artzy?

cinder oxide
#

Cos it has JET too

edgy crater
#

p1 jet enough for me

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fishing for khrav n get jet white nova clannibal in order

potent hornet
#

oof

compact bridge
cinder oxide
potent hornet
#

yea you should have at least gotten one on that

#

i got her sig but i pulled for more and got wedged twice

#

stopped at that lol

stone stratus
#

anyone else try this team?

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i call it beyblade

compact bridge
potent hornet
#

i was thinking about using arclight with TangTang

odd wren
potent hornet
#

how is it?

odd wren
#

Need to finish etching glorious memory

cinder oxide
odd wren
#

Yeah

edgy crater
#

ye

cinder oxide
#

Oh yeah called it ok

edgy crater
#

kinda fun sword lol

cinder oxide
#

Seriously its so good for chen

stone stratus
cinder oxide
#

I kinda regret going for ascent now

odd wren
#

Im at 1-1-3

odd wren
stone stratus
#

u could swap to avy instead of perlica but i havent tried her tbh

odd wren
#

But only p3

cinder oxide
#

The GM that is

odd wren
potent hornet
edgy crater
odd wren
edgy crater
odd wren
#

Ahh yeah i went for 3rd

#

Now im going for 1 and 2 equally

edgy crater
#

kinda skip cr line lol

#

413 right now

outer ermine
odd wren
#

Ok then lol

edgy crater
edgy crater
odd wren
#

Why not xd

edgy crater
twilit quail
#

both of the 6*s are crit so

edgy crater
#

my comparison on p5 box cutter

twilit quail
#

max memory is like

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around 10% better than max steel

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where max ascent is like 15%

#

little bit of variance depending on who you use in active slot

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how much lifeng skill you are doing

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etc

edgy crater
#

no lifeng yet, probably end up as chen soloist

outer ermine
#

yea

edgy crater
proud vector
#

PerliWheeze hey wanna know something funny

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TangTang’s ultimate is hybrid damage

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The waterspouts are boosted by battle skill damage lines

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You thought Rossi was the hybrid unit but no

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It was Tangtang all along!

outer ermine
#

not yet, how good r these stat sticks anyway ICANT

proud vector
#

Not bad tbh if it fits

edgy crater
#

surge tide vs str glove, difference 8.8k

proud vector
#

But time will tell if they fit in or not

edgy crater
#

both non artific

outer ermine