theorycrafting

[summer flicker]

or 2

for rot to be made better

[compact bridge]

Wait at least until weekend

[tranquil cedar]

Will hold for m'y last spot i guess

cause i don't have gilb so i need someone else

[cinder oxide]

Imma wait till guides are out to build Cryo with Tangtang then

[summer flower]

So what were thoughts of tang tang pre release? And what are post release?

[civic wolf]

Tangtang sig or Yvonne sig?

[summer flicker]

she ok

[tranquil cedar]

For tang?

[cinder oxide]

Cheap cryo stack is good

[summer flicker]

tangtang sig

[cinder oxide]

Soup sig easily

[summer flower]

So about same thought pre and after?

[cinder oxide]

Yvonne can live with wedge

[tranquil cedar]

What was the damage dif between Yvonne sig and wedge?

[cinder oxide]

TangTang needs dat sweet sig

[civic wolf]

Navigator, but i can probably buy it the moment it shows up on 6* cycle

[summer flicker]

pre: she be more of a buffer than doing damage
post: she do more dmg than expect, with less buff than expect

[summer flower]

O.O

[civic wolf]

i kinda knew it from the beginning she's a subDPS lol

[summer flower]

Wait what?

Buffer from that showcase?

[civic wolf]

does she fit into GIlberta Yvonne Xaihi?

[summer flower]

And with that moveset?

O.O

[cinder oxide]

I alr got tt sig at 5 pulls but should I pull to the selector to get lucky with the offrates

[tranquil cedar]

Yeah

[summer flicker]

1/3.5 of yvonne dmg is crazy

[cinder oxide]

Or just get lucky with the weekly

[civic wolf]

no need for GIlberta sig right?

wrong ping

[summer flower]

Noticed

[civic wolf]

im just asking cuz coincidentally all 3 weap rateups are available at the same time LOL

[chilly bolt]

Ok im just done with aic shit, any new gears worth noting?

[summer flicker]

115 int body

[civic wolf]

so if I really want to the prio goes Tangtang sig > Yvonne sig > Gilb sig?

[chilly bolt]

Oh the redeemer chest for laevatin?

[summer flicker]

xaihi

clueless

[summer flower]

Xaihi INT pump

Let's go

[cinder oxide]

TT and Chen have the same int

[chilly bolt]

Holy shit true

But it would be good on laevatin as well?

[summer flicker]

dont know since i dont play lae and dont know lae

[rare zodiac]

it work

[summer flicker]

kekw

[civic wolf]

how much of a difference soup sig actually makes anyway?

[summer flower]

Okay, do we have carry with int main stat?

[civic wolf]

FIRST TRY WEDGE LFG

[tranquil cedar]

gg

[drifting quest]

calcs vary wildly

most absurd gap ive seen was like 50%

[summer flicker]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1jccCzvEFo

ohh tangtang mdps

😭 i kinda want tornadoing boss

but im broke

[drifting quest]

ive been tempted to build tt hyper

instead of yvonne

or not so much hyper i guess

tt perlica

[summer flower]

1->1.5 or 0.5 -> 1?

[drifting quest]

what

its the same thing depending on baseline

[summer flicker]

0.5 - 1 isnt that just x2 kekw

[summer flower]

It's not same thing

One is twice

50% of damage loss without Sig means twice damage

[bronze plume]

the new redemer chest piece for laev gives her a huge

[summer flower]

50% damage difference is ambiguous

[bronze plume]

70 extra atk and .7% ult gain

W

[drifting quest]

what

[rare zodiac]

everything for my dear Lae

[civic wolf]

how is it that im getting a lot of 6* from the wep banner and i still feel like ass about itt

[barren geyser]

swordmancer gilberta is now slighty better with the new gear

[civic wolf]

my brain basically went 'welp, you're screwed on sigs the next time you got a limited 6*, good lucky buddy'

i got six new 6* out of this at least lol

[summer flicker]

the game dont even give me a chance to get alot of 6*

😭

[civic wolf]

tbf this gacha system is uniquely so bad that it screws with you no matter how lucky you are

[summer flower]

If it's 50% damage gain compared to not sig

[civic wolf]

even lucksacking early makes you feel trolled

[summer flower]

It's different than losing 50% damage without sig

[summer flicker]

i want more goat cutter

game shut me off

[civic wolf]

Good News: I finally god Wedge. Yay!
Bad News: I have to regrind Wedge. OH NO.

Navigator becomes paperweight ugggghh

[slender river]

who does tangtang replace in yvonne team with gilb/xaihi/perlica?

[drifting quest]

we dont know

not enough tc

[slender river]

the pain of no leaks

[drifting quest]

no foresight be it official or not does delay things yes

[rocky saffron]

did you guys found best build for tang² or not yet (support)

[drifting quest]

no

would be nice to have a pin or something about how we dont know anything yet its too early into the patch

[summer flicker]

can be both gilb and perlica

the diff seems minimal now

[drifting quest]

there's rots that drop all 3

all 4 even

[short matrix]

guys, what's laevatain's new gear BiS now? did anything change

[drifting quest]

yvonne gets dropped too in some

we just dont know enough

[summer flicker]

tangtang shatter with chen

[potent hornet]

the TangTang main dps video looks promising

[slender river]

prob just gonna skip tangtang then, i already have both gilb + sig and p5 perlica+xaihi

[summer flicker]

ye, she a waifu pull

[cerulean gazelle]

is last rite or tang tang weap more worth if i had to choose

[summer flicker]

[drifting quest]

we know nothing

with certainty

[rare zodiac]

the new redeemer armor replace tide, give woping 70 more atk and 0.7% more efficiency

[heady pine]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-know-dont-know-bird-clueless-gif-12587825

[drifting quest]

tweaking trying to explain that we've had 12 hours to calc and people have lives so we dont know

[summer flicker]

there no day 1 number in this game cuz no cc server ig

[short matrix]

I see, the rest remains the same?
Redeemer + triple hotwork
Thanks!!

[potent hornet]

Khrav is king

[glacial jackal]

Is tang tang worth pulling for lr ?

[drifting quest]

we dont know

[glacial jackal]

I will wait

[rare zodiac]

have no concrete answer for now, at least wait until weekend when people have more free time

so that they can get in their cave and mine

[civic wolf]

i couldn't trim with Yvonne premium but first try trim with Lava

yeah ok im not good at rotation

[rare zodiac]

Lae is just more difficult to mess up

[slender river]

yeah i thought there would be big CCs posting tangtang guides by now

[rare zodiac]

i mean the hardest skill to master in Lae teams is just BA canceling

[drifting quest]

its been

12

hours

[summer flicker]

[civic wolf]

Hypergryph is so allergic to leaks jfc

[river ermine]

whys that bad, its their ip

[errant patio]

do endfield even have media servers like wuwa and genshin even

[next helm]

Shuo is not an ai

[civic wolf]

is it worth to regrind Wedge when im already invested in navigator 💀

[smoky quarry]

Chat, gloves for avywenna?

[gritty olive]

im kinda back for now

[summer flicker]

[lilac bloom]

they all are but hoyo just kinda let it happen until the big leaker doxxed himself

[lilac bloom]

what is this rotation 😭

[summer flicker]

where combo skill

[rare zodiac]

well he is still coding

[gritty olive]

combo skills are "automatically implemented"

[rare zodiac]

patient

[summer flicker]

ohh

[bronze plume]

monika add combo skills to yo chart mf

[gritty olive]

its 12 am for me

no

[civic wolf]

nothing happened with Kuro... yet

[bronze plume]

do it

NOW

[summer flicker]

i was like, how the rotation looks so weird

[gritty olive]

im not going to manually put combos

[civic wolf]

Sigrika leaks came out fine

[bronze plume]

yes you will

[outer ermine]

@edgy crater imagine 0s rhod kill per community rule w no hp no timer, just time stop b4 doing dmg

[drifting quest]

[summer flicker]

i mean, wouldnt that be better

[digital nova]

hi whats laevatains new bis set?

[summer flicker]

sometimes you delay yourcombo to meet certain stuff

[quaint matrix]

i wanna pull her,tang-tang and rocci go away

[lilac bloom]

combos and combo timing are important 😭

[summer flicker]

[quaint matrix]

another 30+ days of waiting

[gritty olive]

help me with this first

[bronze plume]

help me get max pot ardelia and sure

[outer ermine]

dont get help banned

[lilac bloom]

you cant just shoo away the woman mi fu is casually dating

[gritty olive]

combo skills are "automatically implemented"

[gritty briar]

include every dodge too so we know how much timestop we need to get the combos at the right part of the rotation

[gritty olive]

since they trigger when criteria are met

[lilac bloom]

slop

[bronze plume]

my reaction to that information

[summer flicker]

what if you want to delay it

[gritty olive]

i just assume dodge takes 0.2s and gives back 15 sp

[summer flicker]

[rare zodiac]

you can manually change when combo happen

[summer flicker]

like to wait for certain combo skill cd to be up

[gritty olive]

i add more conditionals

[summer flicker]

[civic wolf]

No Gilb?

[molten star]

Do we now know how good tang tang is for last rite

[drifting quest]

no

[rare zodiac]

not yet

[bold rose]

this replace offset tide armor on laev right?

[gritty olive]

ajimu is tucked

[smoky quarry]

Specifically lavatein I think

cause intellect

[bronze plume]

who do you think laev is

[summer flicker]

gilb just sleep like 90% of the rotation

and then do something at the end

[rare zodiac]

Xaihi also love that piece

[gritty olive]

i only picced up to 20, and ajimu is at 21

[summer flicker]

[bold rose]

arde/xaihi too

[civic wolf]

oh you dont even bother using her skill, she's just there for ult botting got it

[summer flicker]

y

[gritty olive]

this is raizers cook

[summer flicker]

her skill isnt worth it anymore

[smoky quarry]

Arde is not dealing damage, doesn't matters

[civic wolf]

i assume Gilb skill is more used for rotations IF crowd encounter though?

[gritty olive]

not mine i lack data

[molten star]

How much more buff from xaihi with the new piece? Like .84%?

[bronze plume]

Raizer stop cooking /j

[summer flicker]

just insta skill tangtang for 4 cs tangtang

[rare zodiac]

ey it's Laffey rot

[bold rose]

arde is not dealing damage
well I beg to differ

[civic wolf]

so Tangtang sig improves her buffing and DPS at the same time, right?

[gritty olive]

im gonna sleep now

[summer flicker]

and then if you go to 2nd rotation, do it with gilb skill for art burst

[bold rose]

why not just drop gilb and use perlica at that point
for stanza/elec

[gritty olive]

i made enough progress for a day

[civic wolf]

i'm wondering about her BP weapon and if there's any use case where the BP would be better thanh sig but only if she's a DPS? does that make any sense

[summer flicker]

ye this rot is loopable, just need to change thing a bit for 2nd rot(tangtang 1st skill to gilb 1st skill)

[summer flicker]

[gritty olive]

beats me

[autumn glen]

lowk wanna get p1 tang tang should i

[bronze plume]

we shoulda got a item

[gritty olive]

i dont have time to make up rots so i let people do them for me

[bronze plume]

that lets you guarantee artifice a gear piece bro

[summer flicker]

isnt that my image

kekw

[gritty olive]

anyways i have two exams later morning gotta take my zzs

[summer flicker]

me cooking at 1am kekw (1h of patch drop)

[bronze plume]

only midnight smh

[gritty olive]

[summer flicker]

eep well

[rare zodiac]

sleep at midnight, no night owl, gud student

[summer flicker]

[rare zodiac]

i already known you sleep in the morning Laffey

[summer flicker]

i sleep at noon

now i sleep

[bronze plume]

im just cool

[civic wolf]

is Yvonne's basic attack strings better than Tangtang 🙁

[fading fog]

which gear set's looking the best on soup?

[earnest patio]

What are the changes in new patch any goated artifacts any code or any goated new mechanic???

[red topaz]

is tangtang baked? what's her gear?

[summer flicker]

something along these stuff

[drifting quest]

we dont know

simple as

[summer flicker]

exchange kit/body for more ult eff if your rot need it

[honest hill]

we will know soon trust

[drifting quest]

bonekrusha is a fine temporary thing if you want to test her out but dont commit to it

[earnest patio]

Are there any new artifacts which are good enough ???? Or old one are still best.

[drifting quest]

good new ones yes

[heavy herald]

so there's no optimal gear build for tangtangsahur yet

[pine umbra]

This definitely worth running non-infused until the math geniuses finish their work.

[drifting quest]

correct

[earnest patio]

What are they? any swap in the lae team?

[hollow solar]

i know this is too early to ask for any tang2 tc

but what makes people said that she's not good with LR?
i only pulled her only bcs she's cute tbh, i dont have yvonne and my LR isnt built yet

[summer flicker]

her susc lacking for lr

[earnest patio]

So she isn't worth pulling without Yvonne

Last rite won't work for her

[summer flicker]

im just answering why ppl said she not good with lr

[earnest patio]

@drifting quest pls do reply

[summer flicker]

not like she is actually bad for lr or not

[earnest patio]

Should I pull or save

[bronze plume]

grok they need you

[summer flicker]

if you like her pull

if you are meta player, wait a week or 2

for number to finaliez

this early tc/wip take with a grain of salt

[earnest patio]

Ic ic she is cute but yeha imma wait cause so many chars limited pulls

And shit luck

[summer flicker]

ye best action is just wait

till ppl cook her more

[civic wolf]

aw hell na 5% 💀

[earnest patio]

Are there any replacement in lae team for gears

Or it will stay same

After the new set

[summer flicker]

i dont know anything about laev

im literally only know cyro teams :kek

[earnest patio]

[rich linden]

Guys should I build my electro team? Also I have laeva+gilberta but unsure whether to pull on any of the new banners this patch

[rich linden]

Oh.. yea that makes sense xd

[lean pawn]

Electro team will be possibly zhuang zhuang team

Which gilb also benefit by

[rich linden]

Im not feeling the last rite comps icl and no yvonne soo im probably skipping tangtang

[rich linden]

Ooo

[honest hill]

is a lot fr fr

[rich linden]

Im kinda iffy about committing to claiming JET for avy if am to go for electro team

[lean pawn]

What main team you pursuing

[rich linden]

Laevatain for now

[lean pawn]

Cause at the moment you only need 1 team so dont spread your material thin

[honest hill]

play what u like unless ur purely meta slave

avy still cooks as a 5*

[rich linden]

Her team is built decent rn so I was thinking of a 2nd team

[lean pawn]

Or just not as good of a player, so meta slaving would have higher probability of winning chances

[rich linden]

Yea ive seen and heard good things ab her teams esp with gilberta

[lean pawn]

Avy will be possisbly replaced by zhuang zhuang

[outer ermine]

@edgy crater just a thought for now, wanna keep exploring it tho, i can see a use w this interaction w gil too just cant play on pc rn so ill play on weekend

[honest hill]

she's still very good regardless

her team is very F2P

[civic wolf]

ye think Zhuang Fangyi is gonna creep the crap out of Avy?

[next helm]

New area has no aic right

[honest hill]

Ye w gilberta even better

[next helm]

Am I supposed to bring power over?

[honest hill]

we have no clue what her role is

I hope she is not a cooked unit like yvonne

[rich linden]

If shes a maindps she will likely creep every dps

🔥

[honest hill]

every dps gets powercrept that's just how it is

[rich linden]

Fr

[honest hill]

u either play for fun or u meta slave

[upbeat reef]

I bet they go hoyo route where she is like Void Hunter who twice as strong as any previous damager while being 3 times easier to play.

[rich linden]

See I played 1 team entirety of 1.0, wanna try st new in 1.1 is the thing

[honest hill]

so like rossi then

[rich linden]

Ill have to figure out avy weapon option maybe

[honest hill]

rossi is st i think

[honest hill]

jet

[rich linden]

Except that one haha

[honest hill]

cohesive traction P5

[rich linden]

Is the 2nd best significantly worse than jet

Probably huh

[honest hill]

idk actually but it's not that bad

[rich linden]

I could always claim the jet if i fall in love w the team ig

[honest hill]

u might get randomly

[rich linden]

True

[gritty briar]

he's gonna claim the jet right before it rotates in to the arsenal shop

[digital perch]

what are the best geard now for laev

[bold rose]

she's likely 1.2
just hold on for a patch

[rich linden]

My nightmare xd

[bold rose]

still hot work
just take out the tide armor offset for the new wuling non-set armor

[rich linden]

If u have skill issue, the ult gain set is amazing

Ive been using that this whole time and dw swap back to hotwork xd

[honest hill]

haven't seen it yet tbh

[digital perch]

this one right

[bold rose]

ye that
it's tide offset but better since it's all int no str
which is better for laev

[digital perch]

makes sense

[willow blade]

how good is p0/p5 bp compared to tang^2's sig?

[summer flower]

soup looks like is to fall over when stopping running

[outer ermine]

no artif no food buff, bro is doomed

[lean pawn]

Gah damn

[outer ermine]

oh cn found out the stack too def intended feature

[lilac bloom]

stack?

[summer flower]

stack?

[civic wolf]

Tangtang Invest priority?

Skill > Combo > Ult?

[valid zealot]

Damn new gears tcers gonna have a field day.

[foggy birch]

So.....tang tang or alesh on Yvonnes team?

[lyric latch]

You mean people figured out a way to spawn whirlpools before the fight?

[willow blade]

bro diped out real fast, also IS THAT P5 LR?

[willow blade]

what stack?

[outer ermine]

stack count how many times it gives

[willow blade]

WUT?

is it a bug or what?

[next helm]

That has to be a bug

[outer ermine]

6 stacks

[dry mason]

Prob bug

[outer ermine]

prolly yeah

[willow blade]

LR be getting stuffed

[dry mason]

I also instant killed Triaggelos with Tangtang ult

[outer ermine]

im trying to kill rhod w it but i can only grind on phone rn

[dry mason]

Bro got frozen while immune then instant die in phase 2

[outer ermine]

b4 it gets patched

[dry mason]

Like

30s clear on Triaggelos

With the bug

LOL

[outer ermine]

[willow blade]

is perlica the best 4th char option?

[outer ermine]

pls keep it hg

[willow blade]

or at least just keep the bug when you fight rho ONLY

[bronze plume]

knowing hg itll probably take like 2 weeks to patch anyway

[next helm]

This new area has 36 chests

[willow blade]

more balanced

[bronze plume]

yeah its a small af area

[lyric latch]

TT strongest operator confirmed. Insta kill through invensibility

[willow blade]

so do we know? or is ard better? is there even enough sp for ard?

[soft tendon]

is there any new bis gears for phys team

[dry mason]

@outer ermine What do you use on Tang

2 new masks are stable

[dry mason]

Huh

[outer ermine]

i dont like the uge gloves

[dry mason]

Combo doesnt do that much dmg

[bronze plume]

wtf is that pose

[outer ermine]

ass

[bronze plume]

thought it was zzz for a sec

[dry mason]

How about this

[smoky quarry]

Is it just me or managing aic factory is hell

[sterile herald]

what is there to manage

you set it up and forget about it

[smoky quarry]

You can't run components and stuff at the same time

so you juggle them around

[sterile herald]

????

yes you can?

[smoky quarry]

At max output? No

[sterile herald]

ok think of it this way

[smoky quarry]

If I want to produce xiranite components, I have to disconnect all batteries and reconnect components

[sterile herald]

you can either run each one at max output 50% of the time

[smoky quarry]

If I want to produce cuprium, I have to disconnect components, batteries and syringes

[sterile herald]

or you can run both at 50% output 100% of the time

and never touch it

[smoky quarry]

I don't need so much components

So I have to alternate it manually

[sterile herald]

in 1.0 i was making only 0.3 xir components a minute

[bronze plume]

you can just

[outer ermine]

im just staccing agi, ult dmg could be nice? gotta bring it up to laff probs. theres new mi gloves too

[sterile herald]

u just have to split the conveyor

[bronze plume]

turn one off and the other on

[sterile herald]

a bunch

[smoky quarry]

And you have to do that manually

[bronze plume]

so?

[sterile herald]

turning it on and off is a waste of time when you can just balance it properly off rip and forget about it

[smoky quarry]

It takes too much time

[bronze plume]

you just

turn off one machine

[smoky quarry]

If I want to start producing cuprium, I have to disable syringe facility and two battery facilities

[bronze plume]

i mean once you get outpost to lvl 3 those batteries and syringes are worse anyway

[sterile herald]

just run the batteries and syringes at 80% and trickle the rest

gg

[smoky quarry]

There are new batteries and syringes and they take practically same resources

[bronze plume]

that is true

[smoky quarry]

Well except that syringe A production is not compatible with cuprium at 100% output

[wind nebula]

Use splitter setups to send most of your parts to batteries and only a tiny bit over to components, then forget about it

[bronze plume]

nothing will be ran at 100% eff in wuling until we get 100% of wuling anyway

[sterile herald]

this is what i said 😭 apparently people rather do it manually

[wind nebula]

Optionally, underpower your base a small percentage of the time while you're at it, so you get use out of your reserve power

That's how I have a totally unoptimized base but still get plenty of parts for trading.

[bronze plume]

you didnt do this?

[foggy birch]

Hey chat, obj or thermal for alesh in yvonne team? Or should I use tang tang? But i don't have her weapon doe? But I hear she gud doe? But I cannot think straight now, oaaaaa

[wind nebula]

The only time I've seen Maygi genuinely get excited about replacing someone with Tangtang was when replacing Alesh, so there's that

[outer ermine]

kicking out males is always good

[sullen apex]

theory, best yeh?

[smoky quarry]

Do you think that these are best gloves for avywenna?

Both attributes and fitting bonus

[summer flower]

battle skill bonus seems better

due to damage burst being in that one

[smoky quarry]

What's the number on it?

[summer flower]

?

like all skill works, but usually if its speciifc skill number is higher

[opaque hedge]

Is the new MI security gloves ult dmg better than basic attack glove for yvonne

[summer flower]

is ult affected by basic attack?

are ult basics affected by ult damage?

soup soup eating soup

[astral sinew]

Am I crazy on this? Sub dps tangtang on yvonne team, ultimate increase/damage, combo damage stacking with any battle skill, am I missing something?

[summer flower]

you using her battle skill often?

[astral sinew]

depends on the target, mostly gilberta for the gather

[summer flower]

ohh wait

its when any operator nvm

[astral sinew]

Yep

thats why I'm like, hang on a second

ultimate gain and damage boost for her aoe boomboom

[summer flower]

what are her primary stats?

[astral sinew]

agility main str secondary

and all those gear pieces are that

[summer flower]

you know what here you'll get told

by other people?

swordmancer XD

my opinion it looks fine as it is, i would tho slab it on 4th or maybe see new non sets if there is anything nicely fitting

[astral sinew]

I checked, there's nothing more that fits there that adds to what I'm aiming for

[summer flower]

but no math done by me at all

i was not using bonekrusha because of lack fo gloves

[astral sinew]

the other options are bonekrusha for cryo damage, aethertech for arts intensity, or those gloves for ult damage increase which I was already stacking

[summer flower]

she is pure cryo

isnt she?

does she has cryo % in kit?

[astral sinew]

she's pure cryo yes

Ok after a few tests, yea, i'm staying with this set 😁

[summer flower]

man, but i bet you that we probably will see her in some team as seconadry dps with swordmancer

people here are drooling over swordmancer set

[astral sinew]

her combo damage is chonking hard, her ultimate is doing huge damage especially stacked with xaihi and gilberta ults, its pretty nuts lol

[inland quarry]

Does tangtang cancel attacks or is it just a timestop as anticipated?

[manic beacon]

why not redeemer gloves with that setup?

[astral sinew]

Ooo didnt see those, i was looking at set bonuses 🤣

Those are actually better, thank you

[manic beacon]

mhm, seems to give more total attack as well despite losing the str

[astral sinew]

🤤

[astral sinew]

I was just about to ask that haha

[vale ice]

bp weapon better than sundering steel for chen or nah?

only have p0 sundering and dont intend to buy more from arsenal

[daring dove]

Thermite Cutter won't leave me alone.... Anyone want my spare P3 one.

[outer ermine]

omg it worked lol

[dusk isle]

I would give over my 4 copies of ember just for 1 thermite

[daring dove]

Btw there was a reddit topic about people being unhappy over Tangtang I beliefly browsed in work on my phone but have lost the link for.

[tough roost]

Casual p5 forge

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1UNc2zbEMW

[daring dove]

Does anyone have the link for it I'd like to read it properly.

[outer ermine]

its more than 6 stacks now

[wispy shuttle]

isnt it the water spouts that deal most of the damage? those are battle skill damage

[daring dove]

Ah ic, managed to find it, just some random drama surrounding her trailer.

I thought it might of been interesting like kit related.

[outer ermine]

i didnt even get to watch it

[drifting berry]

Oh yeah they remove it because of the close ups I think

if that is the case it's very stupid

[ashen scroll]

Not because close up

The singer is problematic in chinanor something i forgor

[smoky quarry]

Did devs added rare resource autocollect?

[smoky quarry]

Read the first two lines and thought that they are gonna buff t2

of course not lol

[ashen scroll]

Anw guys , i think max essence+artificing 3 operators is too much for the game , just had the feeling that the case

[modest thorn]

you fully artificed 3 operators?

[daring dove]

Btw people who have had a lot more time with Tangtang than me, what's your take?

[ashen scroll]

[bronze plume]

i mean its less too much for the game more they nerfed they fuck outta literally everything

[drifting berry]

Was not expecting those poses on the character menu

Only thoughts so far

[ashen scroll]

What they nerf the cow already? Day 1?

[daring dove]

I only just got in from work so wanna build her properly an test.

[bronze plume]

look tangtangs gear is very important to study ok

im looking at the GEAR

[drifting berry]

To distracted looking at the chief

[terse bridge]

How long can combo skills rest in queue for? And do Inflictions that result in a reaction still activate combo skills that require an arts infliction to be applied?

[modest thorn]

who are ppl running tangtang with

[ashen scroll]

Ice

[modest thorn]

wow thanks

[ashen scroll]

I mean what else

[modest thorn]

i mean if someones asking about laevatain u don't just say fire

[ashen scroll]

No i would just say fire

[daring dove]

I do love her voice line when you give her a piece of gear "Ohh this gears for me? Come on good stuffs meant for sharing! This ones yours & this ones mine!".

[modest thorn]

why even answer if someone is asking for help at that point

[bronze plume]

how can you run a tangtang

thats my question

[ashen scroll]

There is literaly only 3 other fire operators

2 even , amber can die

[bronze plume]

amber

[ashen scroll]

[bronze plume]

catching strays since genshin 1.0

[modest thorn]

so no gilb and no ard ig

[daring dove]

Sorry I could tell you who I'm running with her but, I don't want to recommend a team when I have zero experience with her rn.

[modest thorn]

allg i just want someone to answer if they have an answer not just answer some bs like we're in #help

[ashen scroll]

Its not bs tho why are you so mad

[bronze plume]

tbf

[quaint matrix]

omg,we got underground pipes+waste resources.... we're another step closer to factorio

[modest thorn]

cause i keep seeing that kind of answer in #help so i came here to avoid it

[bronze plume]

saying "ice"

not helpful

[lament oak]

I don't suppose this is better for Pog?

[bronze plume]

nah we turing this shit into satisfactory we finna be slug collecting

[neon knot]

what's the consensus on tangtang subdps? Do you invest in just super ultimate damage?

Also is this glove now the best glove for Chen?

[ashen scroll]

Ok you answer him

[modest thorn]

ice

they don't have to answer if they don't have the answer

[ashen scroll]

The answer is ice comp , there more than just ice

[modest thorn]

ice could mean yvonne, lr, tangtang and alesh or like any other combination of the many ice units

[lament oak]

Is it sub dps chen?

[inland quarry]

Does it make sense to get tangtang to give lr team some aoe? For single target I'd probably switch off tangtang but lr's aoe is quite bad

[neon knot]

is there any other form of chen?

[drifting berry]

That’s pretty much the answer l, like I run Yvonne Gilberta Xiahi TT but who knows what are her idea teams.

[chilly bolt]

If you need aoe, gil is way better

[neon knot]

also what does "all skill dmg" mean in this context

does it buff battle + combo + ultimate?

[lament oak]

Oh.. son you asked right question. Main DPS chen

[inland quarry]

I don't have gilberta

[quaint matrix]

Have you seen the production line for new batteries? we're also getting to "create 100 sub-resources to make the one you need"

[inland quarry]

Nor do I have the funds to pull her off banner

[neon knot]

ah... i don't do that, only play sub dps chen

[bronze plume]

the general norm for cryo teams in 1.0 was yvonne, xiahi, gilberta, alesh or similar with last rite tangtang is more on the cryo support/sub dps side so most are trying to slot her into these teams (mainly yvonne) as of now there is no concrete awnsers as to how impactful she is for cryo as a whole tho the general idea is shes better for yvonne then she is last rite and there are some "unique" people trying to make her a main dps

[modest thorn]

is tangtang "necessary" for yvonne?

[lament oak]

Anyway, her role is still just stagger build

[bronze plume]

on the bright side making the batteries makes the cuprium ore you need to make well... other things

[neon knot]

i think she covers all of yvonne's weakness, which is having 0 dps during her ult downtime and applying constant cryo infliction

The ult rooting + yvonne's burst is just incredibly synergestic too

[lyric latch]

Well I will say that Tangtang does clear multiples weak enemies really fast. But roll if you like her.

[bronze plume]

in endfields defense

everything is easily clearly

[lament oak]

This is how much stagger she gains from full 2 art intesnity gear

[quaint matrix]

i set up new mats for gear. but man my factory looks so ass rn. i'm scared of that feeling,the feeling of that i have to redo everything from ground zero

[modest thorn]

ooh right the root is really good

[drifting berry]

No, only difference is potential higher team damage, but until we get caps done no idea how impactful.

Also her Utility wasn’t as great as expected

[bronze plume]

besides maybe hard mode umbral and whatever the trims are

[inland quarry]

I'm trying to gather more info to inform my decision rn. I've already decided not to pull for at least a week to let numbers solidify

[quaint matrix]

it was perfect for what we had before 1.1

now it's terrible

[ashen scroll]

The recycleable sewage water make things hurt tho

[bronze plume]

i spent 8 hours on launch redoing my factory 3 times to make it look nice ive been awake for 30 hours :)

[inland quarry]

If tangtang sig is 10% team dps as calced so far, I might also skip sig bc my use case isn't pure dps

[bronze plume]

i play factory games to much

[neon knot]

i find in endfield you spend a lot of time trying to chip away at annoying mobs or low hp phases, where it feels extremely bad playing yvonne cause you have no ways to do consistent damage outside of her mega nuke

[quaint matrix]

bro......I ON THE BEGINNING OF THIS. i have to do everything.

[timber harness]

you should do all my factory stuff im trying to touch it as little as possible

[bronze plume]

yeah using sewage water to makes things is a choice to say the least

[ashen scroll]

Like is it even worth to recycle the sewage water

[quaint matrix]

my factory is no longer good

from S tier to fucking trash

[bronze plume]

me play satisfactory lots

pay me in 1 shilling

im waiting to get my outpost to lvl 3 before going ham and maxxing it out to what we can right now

[inland quarry]

How many closed cycle effluent reactors are you running? I assume you're also using splitter overflow priority?

[neon knot]

we really speedrunning the chinese industrial mentality of just polluting the local water supply to save costs

[bronze plume]

hell nah bruh

endfield factory is basic af

that shit staying basic af

[lament oak]

@neon knot on 2nd thought maybe iana's still better me just stupid

[bronze plume]

look at this goofy ahh shit bruh

[neon knot]

whats an iana...

[inland quarry]

The balance is surprisingly fine rn, you can only spare around 36/min xiranite if you don't drop cuprium

Hence the need for priority splitters

[bronze plume]

Iana is a person who has made the doc for team comps in the pins

[edgy crater]

4s kill time

[outer ermine]

already killed, he didnt even move

[lament oak]

Gonna have to ask em to see if it'd be better for 1 of the pieces to be ult skill dmg

[modest thorn]

anyone have the math on artzy vs wedge vs navigator at different dupes?

[outer ermine]

[neon knot]

oh... we're talking about the chen build still? sorry losing track of convos

[lament oak]

yes (i thought it was ult gain not ult dmg)

[bronze plume]

this is all i need in life right now factory wise

[neon knot]

oh yeah... i just saw double agility + ult dmg and it just sounds juicy for chen

[inland quarry]

Damn you're using 4/min? Those things give so much power

[lament oak]

U can switch out 1 piece for chen

[marsh grove]

Perlica electrification on combo skill is +12% arts dmg taken?

[bronze plume]

i have aura

[marsh grove]

or she have her own multiplyer

[lament oak]

But idk it's like depending on CO or just as back up

[neon knot]

oh... i need to fix my chen lmao

[ashen scroll]

You claim to used to factory games but u use nuclear reactor to power ricecooker

[bronze plume]

hey

as long as the rice is edible

[inland quarry]

How has lr tt been for you? For small enemies on the level of umbral monument, how is tt?

[ashen scroll]

Ill stone you

[lament oak]

That's old chen 😭 It's full sword mancer as of now

[bronze plume]

bro got that cbt2 build

[neon knot]

does arts intensity do something on chen

[lean pawn]

How yall liked tang tang story

[lament oak]

@twilit quail Is this good to switch 1 piece out for Chen? (Chen/Endmine/Pog/Lifeng)

[bronze plume]

it is at least a step up from whatever 1.0 was

[lean pawn]

Agreed

[bronze plume]

minus wulfgards story that was goated

[lean pawn]

Wulf story was eh

[bronze plume]

its not arknights level of story (and probably never will be) but it was bareable at least

[ashen scroll]

How is this step up

[lean pawn]

Altho i feel tang tang story was so sudden no headsup nothing

[bronze plume]

better then a glorified date and being a uber driver thats all imma say

[smoky quarry]

gryphline isn't fighting "genshin writing" allegations

[lean pawn]

This was damn cinematic tho, but there could have been more buildup for the final climax

[ashen scroll]

The only thing important in current story is just that mountain going to get the milk and forgor t2 was still in the river ( definitely accidental )

[neon knot]

k... surely this will be fine

[lean pawn]

New gloves?

[neon knot]

i guess, idk math

i can only imagine the left is much better

[cinder oxide]

Have yall started on cuprium component crafting? Can finally start testing stuff

[bronze plume]

ive been done on the copium ore

[lean pawn]

Would that be much of a differencr?

[cinder oxide]

Subjective on my much the chara want the set bonus

Chen no

[lean pawn]

Does artifice stats have more increase?

[cinder oxide]

Same as regular gold

[lyric latch]

I only had an hour to play before going to work. So I only did a little bit of the story, material farm and Rhoda once. So far TT clears weak mobs really fast and applies cryo in a wide area which helps with awkward targeting of this game sometimes. Rhoda there wast much difference.

[daring dove]

Ye boy! it's completed

[neon knot]

what other chest piece can chen be using?

[sterile herald]

chen runs 4 swordmancer rn no?

so she can drop 1 at no loss

[cinder oxide]

You should see my sc battery setup

[cinder oxide]

I think mine has aethertech so I might swap tbh

[bronze plume]

you make me feel less bad thx

[cinder oxide]

Tbf this is done on purpose to compact

My entire 12/min sc battery fits in 33 x 62

Do I need to do it

No

Will I do it

I did spend 4h on it

[twilit quail]

very small difference but it is better yes

for chen

for others no

[neon knot]

is crit or battle skill dmg better on tangtang?

[twilit quail]

dont use that piece

[bronze plume]

hello iana hru

[cinder oxide]

Imo not worth swapping if that old piece is alr fully artificed

[lament oak]

I heard Pog's set also may change to hotwork?

[cinder oxide]

And the new piece has no good match

[twilit quail]

for max intensity yes

if youre not using 3pc set it's not much different from before

[lament oak]

Good thing is Lifeng is missing a whole max artificed

[cinder oxide]

Oh yeah I should check tt pots

[twilit quail]

cause he didnt gain any ult gain gear that fits his stat better

[cinder oxide]

Any rly strong tt pots

Or all just fine

[lament oak]

The difference is hotwork give will over intellect, only the gloves are some what bad but still works

you can still wear the armor too so this would make pog purely debuff

[twilit quail]

bonecrusher chest and 3x hot work is the set rn

for long rotation

with artificed gain he has ult in 3c7s

[lament oak]

This?

[twilit quail]

and he still actually has some atk(no way!)

yes

[dusk isle]

For tang2, is it better to run the bonekrusha gloves or an ult gain one (with 3p bonekrusha in other slots)

[lament oak]

😭 I noticed, his alt barely does anything

[soft tendon]

do we have numbers for bp weapon on chen

[lament oak]

havent even gotten to see what tan^2 uses

[oak inlet]

Anyone know if DPS Pogranichnik's best build is still pure stat stick with double lynx slab?

[ashen scroll]

This might be crazy take , but i feel like never need akakuri now that wulf and laeva maxed, the enemies just dies before aka ult is up

[neon knot]

is there a reason we don't run Aethertech on Chen/Endmin?

[soft tendon]

ake ult is purely for laeva ult ebs to maximize burst potential

[soft tendon]

afaik chen dmg window is ult, endmin is mainly arts intensity for crush

[smoky quarry]

Aethertech is used on panda though

[lament oak]

You get both stagger and an attack that does 250%.

10s but yes it is building faster stagger

[stiff eagle]

That piece also just came out so like give it a bit

[inland quarry]

What's the strategy around stagger rn? I've heard that lr tt lacks stagger but what are the consequences of that?

[lament oak]

You know the graph where it shows yvonne damage

[ashen scroll]

What im saying do we even need Ultimate Efficiency on ake in laeva team now, since crisis is now always give max ult at the start , and umbral being is pretty much just die before ake ult is up with max ult efficiency anw

[lament oak]

My guess it's close to that you'd deal high dmg but to be absolute it takes a while

[ashen scroll]

So im thinking changing from ultimate efficiency to frontier

[lean pawn]

So they stated we can automatically now collect recycle mats right

[ashen scroll]

I still dont know how

[bronze plume]

why is it not 150 bruh

[dusk isle]

In a future update

[inland quarry]

I'm not aware of this graph, how is that related to stagger?

[smoky quarry]

Ryan Mei is annoying asf

I don't even wanna try trimming him

[neon knot]

is this new bis on laevatine?

[bronze plume]

accurate

[smoky quarry]

what kind of rotten brain decided that it needs to be gatekeeped up to 1.2

[dusk isle]

It is so funny that they put it in 1.1 devlog just for it to say in a future update

[smoky quarry]

too hard to implement apparently

[soft tendon]

pray its one click

[neon knot]

idk my more empathatic side thinks they just couldn't pick it up as high priority this update

[soft tendon]

id hate to click on every single recycling station to collect it

[lament oak]

More stagger -> More DPS because takes shorter time for it to recieve massive dmg when stunned. It peaks when you stun them and if not it's still high but not great

[smoky quarry]

It is easy to do technically

[dusk isle]

Make it have a loading screen each time

[smoky quarry]

They are just annoying us

[swift onyx]

Do we have any like, solid and actual changes to the builds with the new gear?
Mainly interested in phys and laeva 🥹

[neon knot]

people always focus on one thing and go "omg it's so easy why not just do it", but if you're co-ordinating like 15-30 updates and you can only ship 10 then you gotta pick and choose

[soft tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-gif-17911863924418191760

[inland quarry]

Does the stagger state provide an inherent dmg bonus?

[soft tendon]

1.3x dmg iirc

[neon knot]

game dev and software development isn't that simple, and these new-gen gachas are on such insane update cycles its understandable

[ashen scroll]

Tbh i dont realy care if they add it on 1.2 , its pointless anw since there no dijang upgrade and they confirm that u dont need 10k of them

[neon knot]

i can't even imagine going through this level of churn at my own software job, i need 3 weeks just to do a simple database design

[ashen scroll]

[swift onyx]

So, do we chat?
I heard laeva and da pan had some changes

[dusk isle]

Uuh laeva is tide surge > redeemer chest afaik

[soft tendon]

"hello chatgpt can you generate me code for recycling mats one click auto collect"

[ashen scroll]

Laeva got like minor change

[neon knot]

Laeva has two upgrade

one is new Hotwok chest got a straight improvement for Lynx slab build

other is tide surge > redeemer

[ashen scroll]

If you already artificing the old chestplate there reallg no need to change it to the new one

[soft tendon]

its only like a 30 atk difference at full arti

[neon knot]

ult gain efficiency is also slightly worse this patch cause you start every fight with 100% ult so 🤷

if you can 1hko the boss with laev in the first rotation dont really need ult gain

[swift onyx]

Thats not too hard to do

[soft tendon]

double slab for the luls

[swift onyx]

P5 double slab laeva has 1.1k int

[soft tendon]

almost

[small anchor]

is there a build for tangtang main dps

[soft tendon]

i dont think its possible to hit 1.1k int unless gryph releases a glove version of redeemer chest

[ashen scroll]

That why im changing my ake to frontier now , and umbral mobs also too weak for her

[daring dove]

I think with the new ult gain chest piece for Laevatain to be honest, unless you're specifically trying to killing a boss in a single rotation ult gain build is the way to go on her.

[smoky quarry]

Is lynx better for overworld on lava if I'm just too lazy to press buttons? Enemies die too quickly for me to set something up

[ashen scroll]

And my wulf is sub dps build maxed too

[swift onyx]

Overworld will always die quickly

🥹

[smoky quarry]

So is lynx better?

just for holding LMB

or maybe charge set

[soft tendon]

double slab if you just want to hold down lmb

[quaint matrix]

man,the pull count seems pretty sadgers rn for 1.1

[smoky quarry]

2.4 pulls from umbral and 3.6 from spatial set, don't forget about them

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

get a load of these pulls

[quaint matrix]

this changes everything

[soft tendon]

currently from this patch ive gotten 10 chartered permits and 9k oroberyl

[ashen scroll]

And 7 t2 permit

[dusk isle]

How much standard pulls did etchspace zone 4 give ?

[daring dove]

Ult gain built is miles better for overworld.

[lean pawn]

Well I am happy as a hoarder

[daring dove]

Slab is for single rot boss kills

[soft tendon]

4

[smoky quarry]

Thanks

[quaint matrix]

these companies are trying so hard to make you pull. tang-tang quest is pretty cool

almost made me do the gamba

[soft tendon]

realistically you can trim with ult gain build if you put in the work

[lean pawn]

Mifu became mah fave from the story

[soft tendon]

but if youre trying to get better times then hot work probably a better option

[neon knot]

does this imply battle + skill + ultimate?

[soft tendon]

bskill + combo + ult yes

[quaint matrix]

she's cool but i don't really like her tail

[dusk isle]

Das good, If we get a little more standard pulls for 1.2 maybe i can 6* from soft pity in 1.2

[neon knot]

thats kinda sick, lowkey. New gloves for wulfgard

[soft tendon]

icl ive had my wulf on full ult gain since forever

[bronze plume]

can i have those stock bills

[soft tendon]

lae slave

[neon knot]

no i saved for 4 days

[bronze plume]

thank you for giving me those stock bills

:)

[ashen scroll]

Yeah not really tankiest overworld monster ( the cow with dynamite totem ) are still die to her EBS without ult

[soft tendon]

waiting for glorious memory numbers to come out for chen

would p5 glorious even be worth investing into if i have p5 sundering tho

[lean pawn]

I mean..that is such a miniscule nitpick ngl

[soft tendon]

its primarily for alluvium qol

[lean pawn]

You telling me this aint reset?

[sterile herald]

it will be better, the question is how much better and are you willing to buy two premium bps for it

me personally, i’m not spending shit

[soft tendon]

i can p5 it this pass so im just waiting for the numbers

[neon knot]

does ult dmg bonus do anything on laevatine

[soft tendon]

afaik no since her ult itself doesnt do dmg

[neon knot]

got it...

[daring dove]

Yeah maybe so but if you build enough ult gain you can clear like 3-4 packs of mobs in a single ult an have enough heat stacks left to immediately go into ult for the next pack as well.

Obviously the AoE benefits are huge versus the mostly ST nature of her skill

[bronze plume]

isnt it fun?

[soft tendon]

its sucks but i can understand the logic behind it

[ashen scroll]

Ye its hard to say which one is better now , that why im trying to build max dps+buff build without ultimate efficiency on my second acc fully artifice and essence to make comparison

[soft tendon]

since its one time for an essence youll use forever

[soft tendon]

ult gain > overworld
hot work > bosses

[bronze plume]

valley stock bills forever at 30M

[soft tendon]

thats pretty much it tbh

[dusk isle]

This gives 1/1/1 right

[bronze plume]

of yo choice yes

[dusk isle]

Got it thanks

[void shale]

what armor set are we using on tangtang? do we keep using the crit set on yvonne?

[ashen scroll]

I assume this is correct for p0

I should make it clear before yapping , my strawbery candy is kinda glowing differently mb

[bronze plume]

at higher pots of both weapon and character ult gaing set on laev just gets better

[soft tendon]

if p0p0 just use hot work + redeemer/tide

[modest thorn]

New comp leaked???

[soft tendon]

i wouldnt sweat it too hard

[ashen scroll]

Atm i only see ult gain value on essence farm ngl since everything else just die too quickly

[bronze plume]

you cna just use whatever one you prefer icl

[soft tendon]

i only ever switch to hot work if i want to get a nice screenshot on marble

[bronze plume]

i stopeed using hot works once i used ult gain once

theres nothing like never not having funny lava cake sword

[ashen scroll]

With ult gain my ebs only do like 150k on average tho

[soft tendon]

its somewhat compensated for by having 1 rot ult

[bronze plume]

that is unsurprsingly the difference between a set that buffs the dmg of the character and a set that has ult up basically 100% of the time

is consistency over big numbers

[ashen scroll]

Tbh the laeva part is not really that much of different , im stressing out with ake

[soft tendon]

i just have everyone on ult gain and forget about it kek

[ashen scroll]

Like i almost never use alb and ake ult now

[soft tendon]

at this point in time its up to preference

[ashen scroll]

I probably will change ake to gilberta or something

[honest hill]

did u buy the new wuling catalyst stock cost 180k each 20 of em

[neon knot]

i clear out shop every week, 60 catalysts

[honest hill]

it's 80 now

[ashen scroll]

Wait i just realize that we need to change every mining rig on wuling now since the newer rig cost no energy

[neon knot]

oh... hype

[honest hill]

3.6m

[rugged vale]

energy isnt an issue

[lament oak]

pain

[honest hill]

yes

[ashen scroll]

Sub optimal factory is greater sin than suboptimal ops build

[neon knot]

they need to make this cheaper...

i dont even want to farm essence si nwuling anymore cause i need to spend on artificing

[honest hill]

I only have 1M stock bills left

after upgrading rabbit depot node recycling station + new catalysts

[smoky quarry]

depot node upgrade is so bs

only 10k increase per delivery

[honest hill]

yeah it is

but I mean it'll pay off eventually

[smoky quarry]

in 1.3 or so

[lament oak]

why are u even

[honest hill]

prob ye

[lament oak]

just do vally 4

[smoky quarry]

Twilight can be found only in wuling

[drifting quest]

its in v4 too

just not a 3/3 for forgeborn

the rossi bp one is v4

[neon knot]

had to at the beginning for laevatine weapon, it ate into my artificing progress for like a week

[lament oak]

Yeah cause i was like.. Aint i got Rapid Ascent in V4?

[smoky quarry]

also not for a stanza

[drifting quest]

stanza has the same line as forgeborn so yeah

[rugged vale]

you uppgrade depot for envioronment level, deliveries are useless

[neon knot]

imagine not 3 essencing for laevatine

[smoky quarry]

Deliveries get me 300k bills every day, it is important

[honest hill]

I think i have like 140 catalysts but I don't wanna use them till the wuling stock bill income is stable

[drifting quest]

idk why im getting x'd for saying something correct

[honest hill]

[drifting quest]

but hey

new age tc channel

[rugged vale]

you get more bills than you can spend without deliveries

[smoky quarry]

Never enough

[honest hill]

losing another 3.6M per week is insane

[smoky quarry]

There are catalysts, engraving, new gear templates, gear crafting

[honest hill]

for 20 catalysts...

[cerulean wigeon]

is the new bp sword better then sundering for chen?

[neon knot]

some extra artificing resource is not worth losing a whole ass essence line on the best dps in the game lmao

[smoky quarry]

8.4 millions for 80 catalysts let's gooo

[rugged vale]

once you get your 3/3 you dont need tickets anymore

[honest hill]

I feel like we won't have enough to craft gear lmao

[rugged vale]

unless ur giga unlucky

[honest hill]

1.2 will fix that ig

[smoky quarry]

what

how

[neon knot]

yes once you get it i f off to valley IV, but there are still instances where you have to farm wuling essences

[honest hill]

w a new sub pac because we need one so badly

[civic wolf]

Tangtang upgrade prio? Skill > COmbo > Ult?

[neon knot]

skill > ult > combo i believe

[honest hill]

If 1.2 has a sub pac then it'll be even better

just imagine how much wuling bills we using for catalysts per week

plus gear is 80x 8k each

[neon knot]

also new gear costs 16k wuling per craft

wuling inflation is real

[rugged vale]

this ones funny

[neon knot]

fucking wuling tariffs

[lament oak]

why did i come back to wuling tariffs

[rugged vale]

does 1.0 wuling setup still generates more material that we can sell for sub pac ?

or is the lv3 a big enough difference

[soft tendon]

level 3 is like

30% more bills than level 2

i havent done the defense quest yet

[rugged vale]

defense is 10% on top of it ?

[soft tendon]

yes i think so

[rugged vale]

guess its big enough to force you to do new crafts

[distant python]

how does the new recrisis boss work

like im just pressing buttons and he doesnt take damage at the beginning

[smoky quarry]

he's TITLE CARD

at the beginning

[distant python]

so just wait ?

[smoky quarry]

yes

Also he dodges attacks sometimes

by jumping in the air

I got zero BS damage from lavatein ult cause of that

even worse than triaggeloi I'd say

[distant python]

this guy doesnt stagger at all in 1st phase right?

[smoky quarry]

he has stagger

[distant python]

not from attacks

[soft tendon]

half the boss fight is legit just waiting it out

[smoky quarry]

and you have 40 seconds less to trim it

I'd rather do agony version of bossfight than just dps-check

Sounds more enjoyable to me

[soft tendon]

icl i was expecting something harder, at least on the same difficulty as marble

ruan yi is just rhodagn but he jumps a lot

[distant python]

oh this shit is easy

1st try trimmed

also where are the electric nexus in wuling?

[soft tendon]

theres none

probably in a future event

[distant python]

so why is this a battlepass challenge

ah

okay

[soft tendon]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCxwOsmbwAA8BvD.jpg?name=orig

[soft tendon]

maybe delver?

although i dont think that would count as a wuling instance, rather a protocol space

[rugged vale]

Maybe the spray thing

Idk its just weird

[distant python]

aint no way we have to wait 2 weeks for umbral

why is umbral not just a biweekly constant thing?

[dry kindle]

Because fuck you

[smoky quarry]

what is supply event?

[iron raptor]

swordmancer gilberta doesnt need p4 to do 2 combo skill > ult now with the new gear right?

[heavy herald]

swordmancer what?

[leaden tartan]

46.4 from sig, 33.4 from redeemer seal, 16% from chest, 7% from Gilbertaness. 102.8%. You actually don't need to use redeemer seal at all.

Xirinite arm is enough.

[honest hill]

Wait what

btw do u need to craft the new gear to artifice the new gear

[leaden tartan]

No

[honest hill]

Good

It's expensive af anyways

[heavy herald]

does anyone here has a gilb built using swordmaster?

[outer ermine]

@edgy crater
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1LMc1zBEW4

[leaden tartan]

You might want to craft it to artifice anyway because there's 5 or 6 more good matches.

[torn pilot]

how is tangtang?

she reads pretty good

[cerulean basin]

How great is gilberta her P3?

Do those extra 5% make any meaningful difference ?

[smoky quarry]

if you want 100% cuprite comp output, you have to disable both batteries and syringes

ts is frying me

the issue is, some cuprite gear introduced more best matches

[honest hill]

Yeah that's gay

[smoky quarry]

and artifice catalysts so far are more valuable than components

[iron raptor]

i do now...

[smoky quarry]

I just don't get it

Why they added new ore

Just why

[hollow vector]

So you can suffer

[smoky quarry]

iana is gonna have a field day with this one

[soft tendon]

i feel like we're gonna be getting even more in the future

well i mean its a type speculation

[hollow vector]

Wasn't there posters with 1 more type of ore in science station?

[pallid citrus]

Ok so, I saw Perlica recommended for Last Rite/TangTang/Xaihi teams. This is because Perlica can forcibly inflict electification, and electrification increases how much arts damage enemies take. Do I have that right?

[torn raft]

anyone use this teamcomp shell? was wondering if fluorite would be better as a 4th to get 3rd cryo stack faster

[dusk isle]

She is used to apply stanza buff as well

[outer roost]

Guys, I did some calculations and found out the following ratio:
10 SC Batteries (-1.5 for power)
5.5 Yazhen Syrringe [A]
2 Yazhen Syrringe [C]
1 Xiranite Component
1 Cuprium Component

It gives 36720 stock bills which is enough to get all stock bills from the outpost (36288/hour, 432 excess). Also it makes both Xiranite and Cuprium Components and uses exactly 90 Ferrium, 120 Cuprium, 120 Xiranite and 400 Originium (If I did all the calculations right)

I just want to make sure if I'm right or not

That's the best one I found