#theorycrafting

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summer flicker
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noice thank god

honest hill
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damnnn

drifting quest
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||2/2/1 pulls||

twilit quail
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it also has a bit of ATK%

dry kindle
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No

honest hill
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W

normal tangle
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oh ok good

twilit quail
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which is excellent

warped sorrel
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this is the best change ever

drifting quest
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it's what 20-30% less attack

dry kindle
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Oh wait right

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Third line

gritty briar
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crazy

twilit quail
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and importantly, ok

warped sorrel
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we can unglaze tangtang now we got what we want

hollow wyvern
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rossi stocks stonks
tt stocks ๐Ÿ“‰

twilit quail
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it looks better than fucking sundering steel

drifting quest
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p5 rossi bp should be better than sundering

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thank the lord

solemn pasture
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huzzah

dry kindle
drifting quest
hollow wyvern
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realistically, if you're not using tt for the ult cc, prob better to just skip then

dry kindle
boreal siren
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One message removed from a suspended account.

hollow wyvern
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not worth the pulls, esp considering you need sig

valid palm
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I wonder what P Rising Ascent would have to be in order to be better than P5 Glorious Memory

drifting quest
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Semantics

glass birch
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Yeah actually; Glorious Memory looks like a weaker Aspirant ๐Ÿคฎ

twilit quail
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it's a better aspirant

glass birch
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But Agi L

gritty olive
normal tangle
twilit quail
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gain stack on apply vuln is way better

twilit quail
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it has 20% atk

dry kindle
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Also yeah

twilit quail
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and it has 6* base atk

drifting quest
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memory dumpsters aspirant

glass birch
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I'm talking the skill

drifting quest
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and should be decently above sundering

dry kindle
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Aspirant with its dmg% line 2 and 3 smhsmhsmh

drifting quest
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critfish aside

dry kindle
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Just be luckier

drifting quest
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there's an argument for off piece crit chen now

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sobbing

dry kindle
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Ok die

honest hill
valid palm
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crit fish my beloved ๐Ÿ™

hollow wyvern
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oh wait, tt is only ||90 cost|| ult

normal tangle
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surely swordmancer gets a crit kit

hollow wyvern
dry kindle
hollow wyvern
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that's pretty good yeah?

honest hill
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yes

solemn pasture
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ult gain tang2 and spam it out?

twilit quail
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90 is the standard

honest hill
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better than ake

twilit quail
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anyone who has more than 90 has negative privilege

honest hill
drifting quest
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there's an argument

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not to run tt

hollow wyvern
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how much ER does that need in yvonne rota

paper sand
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maybe we got way too used to 200-300 cost ults PerliWheeze

drifting quest
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the damage is kinda ehh

hollow wyvern
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and now there's even more

solemn pasture
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my poor LR ult

hollow wyvern
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CC + sig is like 75% of her value

dry kindle
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Where's the gear smh

hollow wyvern
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and that's low balling

honest hill
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ouch

hollow wyvern
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yeah where gear

solemn pasture
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true

honest hill
solemn pasture
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well we'll find out in a few hours

drifting quest
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||Memory is base 490 so a bit lower than ideal but ahead of sundering||

solemn pasture
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the update is in a couple hours right?

twilit quail
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ofc

warped sorrel
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if she can ult every half rotation would be amazing

drifting quest
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||5 less than rascent||

twilit quail
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bp weapon moment

glass birch
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If anything this just Solidifies my need to skip SoupSoup

solemn pasture
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lmao

hollow wyvern
dry kindle
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Bp weapon tax ๐Ÿ˜”

hollow wyvern
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with max ER gears?

drifting quest
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doesnt ||90c ult|| fuck up the rots

honest hill
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I mean I wanna see P0/2/5 vs P5 sundering

drifting quest
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i need to find the endaxis tab

warped sorrel
edgy crater
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damn, rip my p4 box cutter PerliDerp

hollow wyvern
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we should already have the energy calcs

hollow wyvern
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just need ppl to do em

dry kindle
drifting quest
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i gotta go farm an essence for rossi bp weapon now

drifting quest
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||esp with that p3||

honest hill
dry kindle
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Smh

twilit quail
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no one is going to get any gearing change

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๐Ÿ™‚

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it's just all for new ops

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everyone else gets nothing new worth using

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I think

gritty briar
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gear wher

potent hornet
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so the goal is p3 TT, plz be kind to my wallet

edgy crater
twilit quail
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that's my expectation

gritty briar
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tell me there's an agi hotwork for my dps fluorite

drifting quest
normal tangle
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these potentials do seem a little too strong lowk

drifting quest
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as in the stuff im looking at has none

dry kindle
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Smhsmhsmh

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Do it yourself

normal tangle
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gilb p2 was odd to me but these tangtang ones are bugsmoke

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kind of insane

drifting quest
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i dont have the space

dry kindle
drifting quest
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i had to go delete stuff to have the space to install update

summer flicker
dry kindle
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Should've bought 20tb before the incident

night jackal
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Haven't seen much on this yet but is TangTang sig weapon a must pull?

honest hill
dry kindle
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Hg support weapons aren't real

hollow wyvern
dry kindle
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And it's taken

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So probablyTM

potent hornet
hollow wyvern
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and is it possible to ult twice a rota? even with ER wep?

normal tangle
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her sig has like half her support kit

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otherwise she's just a dps with a little bit of susc

honest hill
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this tangtang enjoyer will just put ulti bot gear on her

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shame on u laffey

summer flicker
odd wren
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Can we say that glorious better than rapid ascent now?

hollow wyvern
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jesus christ

solemn pasture
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wait wtf the goal is to p3 tang2?

hollow wyvern
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ok twice a rota def not possible

solemn pasture
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nah i gotta skip bro

summer flicker
solemn pasture
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no way in hell am I going to be able to p3 tang2

potent hornet
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The gun will crank up her dps a good amount with agi/atk%/and some cryo dmg

hollow wyvern
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if they don't give good xira agi pieces for her, her dmg gonna be even worse

honest hill
potent hornet
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they probably wanted to be careful not to give her numbers close to LR

summer flicker
hollow wyvern
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maybe you just go no set

proud vector
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PerliDerp oh god what P does rossi need

drifting quest
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nothing for rossi

valid palm
drifting quest
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they hid her away

normal tangle
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if they start making mandatory potentials i'm lowkenuinely quitting

honest hill
drifting quest
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rascent is gonna need like

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p4 or p5 to beat glorious

normal tangle
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i pray these tangtang pots are just overhyped

drifting quest
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feelscraft wise

sterile patrol
valid palm
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indeed

odd wren
valid palm
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it's just going to be way easier to get P5 Glorious than P4-5 RAscent

drifting quest
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p5 rascent might not even beat p5 glorious

honest hill
drifting quest
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glorious is kinda that good

valid palm
odd wren
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I can actually p5 memory?

hollow wyvern
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where tt pots

odd wren
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I mean today

dawn patrol
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do we have rossi numbers

drifting quest
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no numbers

normal tangle
drifting quest
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it aint there

honest hill
odd wren
dawn patrol
odd wren
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Coping

valid palm
honest hill
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it's a BP wep xd

drifting quest
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unless someone finds it later

edgy crater
honest hill
valid palm
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and if you're spending money then the battle pass is one of the first things you buy

drifting quest
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you can p5 glorious

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if you bought 1.0 bp and buy this one

edgy crater
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later not now

drifting quest
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paid ver

odd wren
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I still have the 1.0 bp

hollow wyvern
odd wren
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Upgrade stuff

drifting quest
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f2p cant do it

honest hill
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wait doesn't the box not update tho

potent hornet
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would they make that retroactive?

hollow wyvern
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yeah, we already going hoyo route, putting key pots midway

edgy crater
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w8, 1.0 box updated too?

drifting quest
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you get tokens

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you dont need the boxes

honest hill
dawn patrol
edgy crater
drifting quest
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its like 2 tokens per bp

twilit quail
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who gives a shit if the dupes are just damage

edgy crater
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oh dat pot box

drifting quest
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so 4 tokens total, 2 boxes

normal tangle
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you can at most p2 a weapon for free

valid palm
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P5 RAscent is only more accessible than P5 Glorious if you're a gigawhale who only cares about time and not money

twilit quail
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if there's no missing mechanic who cares

odd wren
hollow wyvern
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we've yet to see the peak of hg greed, it's only gonna go up from here

honest hill
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I mean I was talking about 1.0 bp box

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but they only contain 1.0 bp weps

normal tangle
drifting quest
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boxes are unchanged from 1.0

honest hill
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1.1 is just 1.0 bp weps + 2 new ones

drifting quest
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but the tokens can work for every bp weapon

normal tangle
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||tripling the susc on tangtang p3|| is also getting close to that

honest hill
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yeah so u can't P5 rn unless u have those dupe boxes

solemn pasture
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close to what

midnight stirrup
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Seems like gilb still reigns supreme

honest hill
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well can u even P5? wouldn't it be P4

midnight stirrup
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W pull choice

valid palm
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and four dupe mats

honest hill
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wait

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the dupe mats from bp?

drifting quest
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yeah there's a strong argument to just stick to existing yvonne teams

valid palm
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so if you have the BP both 1.0 and 1.1 you can max P5 Glorious this patch

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if you don't care about the gun

dawn patrol
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2 pot boxes each bp + 2 1.1 wep boxes

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so p5

odd wren
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My chen can finally do 1m crits?

honest hill
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do you get the dupe boxes from paid bp?

finite flare
odd wren
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Thars the box yeah?

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Near the sanity

honest hill
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I actually thought they gave it for free

odd wren
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Its an old screenie btw

drifting quest
odd wren
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Ah nvm

drifting quest
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you get 2 of them from the paid bp

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real money paid bp

odd wren
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I dont have a screenie of that

honest hill
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okay I will have 4 boxes then

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huh

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P5 ig

drifting quest
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2 boxes, 2 tokens

odd wren
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Cant we buy levels?

valid palm
odd wren
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For bp?

odd wren
valid palm
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ah

honest hill
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origiometry

valid palm
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I was wondering why it looked off

odd wren
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Oh ok

honest hill
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ik u will swipe

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to max

odd wren
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Time to p5

honest hill
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lv 60 bp first day

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ik

odd wren
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Lmao

honest hill
edgy crater
odd wren
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I can dump my rapid

dawn patrol
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i'm gonna see if i can hit max lvl before rossi drops

paper sand
night jackal
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Do we have stats on the new BP weapons?

odd wren
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Glorious Memory
||ATK +20%. When the wielder's skill applies Vulnerability, during the next ultimate cast within 30s, the wielder gains DMG Dealt +34%. Max Stacks 3
r9||

honest hill
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idk the other one is mid

valid palm
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also, sucks they released three characters 1.0 but still only gave 2 boxes. You can't collect all BP weapons until they do their first rerun

honest hill
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oh ye true

dawn patrol
honest hill
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they should've gave us 3 boxes

paper sand
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tangtang bp wep is mid? PerliWorried

honest hill
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ye

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mid imo

odd wren
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Tangtang might be mid in general

honest hill
edgy crater
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not for p3

odd wren
paper sand
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pray i get gil as offbanner then cause jeez i need an yvonne supp

honest hill
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pray for me

valid palm
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I swear if Gryph pulls a fast one on us by going

Tangtang: Good kit, psych! shit numbers
Rossi: Bad kit, psych! broke numbers

Imma scream

odd wren
summer flicker
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do you know if ||16.8% damage taken is x/x/4 ||right

proud vector
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plsplsyes

dawn patrol
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rossi fans about to eat so good

honest hill
hollow wyvern
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sadthink I saw just now from someone that it's possible to swap off yvonne midult, then just dive with tt while ai yvonne is shooting?

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is that true?

odd wren
edgy crater
proud vector
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most likely

odd wren
summer flicker
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idk cannibal hae similar art dmg taken

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

honest hill
edgy crater
honest hill
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look at clannibal is similar

odd wren
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I just realize how chen gonna be broken af

potent hornet
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if her ult is 90 energy that is going to be really easy to keep up

odd wren
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With memory

odd wren
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Crit fishing xd

valid palm
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okay but that only gives 19.2% arts damage

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instead of fucking

honest hill
dawn patrol
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ngl since they're hiding rossi numbers i assume they're still in the kitchen

honest hill
valid palm
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||100% cryo damage||

odd wren
honest hill
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If I get bored I will build her ig

summer flicker
paper sand
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in the kitchen 3? hours before the patch drops PerliStare

odd wren
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Guess i wont pull for tt

dawn patrol
night jackal
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Is TangTang gonna be a big boost to cryo teams? Or is it gonna be more like a 10-20% boost in DPS

valid palm
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so maybe that is P4 ๐Ÿ™

proud vector
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10 mins

drifting quest
odd wren
proud vector
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before we are halfway i think?

odd wren
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I still think perlica in yvonne team gonna be better than tt

edgy crater
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now waiting for red gear stat lol

valid palm
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halfway was 20 min ago

honest hill
proud vector
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oo was it?

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fair nuff

honest hill
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but pls i want yinglung meta

odd wren
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Do we get crit stuff on swordmancer now

honest hill
odd wren
edgy crater
honest hill
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P2 dorito made easier

edgy crater
odd wren
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I need crit on chen

honest hill
edgy crater
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red mi chen

odd wren
potent hornet
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i don't care i'm pulling TT

honest hill
odd wren
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Welp im gonna save for more physical units

shrewd saffron
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3 hours till maintenance finish right? ๐Ÿ‘€

odd wren
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So im saving

valid palm
odd wren
violet gull
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its up
gl on pulls

drifting quest
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at most 3hr 8m

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could be anytime from now onwards it goes up

summer flicker
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what its up

shrewd saffron
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Pog its up

odd wren
drifting quest
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about 1hr 8m if its the same as 1.0

edgy crater
summer flicker
odd wren
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Bait

drifting quest
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bait used to be believable

odd wren
shrewd saffron
honest hill
valid palm
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...

violet gull
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if you preorder its up ๐Ÿ™ƒ

valid palm
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ah, my bad guys

hollow wyvern
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goddamn it you guys baited me

honest hill
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$250 pay up

dry kindle
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Where gear datamine waaaaah

valid palm
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I didn't realize that Hypergryph forgot about DST KEKW

honest hill
hollow wyvern
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I hope you baiters lose all your 50/50s PerliFumo

honest hill
odd wren
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Lmao

night jackal
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I don't know if I'm pulling or saving. I'm not a fan of Rossi design either

valid palm
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They're still showing GMT-5 instead of GMT-4 for me

drifting quest
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its -5 for everyone

honest hill
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What is DST

drifting quest
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at least na/eu

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asia might have a different popup

odd wren
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.bestgirl

shrewd saffron
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UTC +8 feelsthinkingman

honest hill
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Is it Dijang saving time

honest hill
odd wren
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What why is it tangrang

valid palm
drifting quest
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no im +0 and its always been -5

honest hill
potent hornet
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only one i'm missing

twilit quail
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remember to open the game to compile shaders anyway

summer flicker
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hate yall baiters

night jackal
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My Lifeng is P2 and I havent even used him yet

summer flicker
edgy crater
potent hornet
warped sorrel
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ow someone already did it

honest hill
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I make sure you'll be first

dawn patrol
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bait used to be believable

night jackal
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Gotta p4 Ember from losing so many 50/50s

proud vector
potent hornet
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mine is p2 i think? might be p1

honest hill
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Tangtang enjoyers first

dawn patrol
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turns out tt was just a bait banner for rossi

midnight stirrup
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Thank god

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I didnt wanna pull Midmid

honest hill
potent hornet
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i'm just gonna get them both

odd wren
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Imagine rossi gonna be hyper carry

edgy crater
midnight stirrup
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I wouldnt mind that

honest hill
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trust

odd wren
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Welp at least i can save

midnight stirrup
odd wren
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But bp wont let me save

midnight stirrup
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Tangtang looked better before full numbers

dawn patrol
midnight stirrup
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So Rossi must be better with full numbers

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Surely

honest hill
odd wren
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Now i need to so some research on the new aic stuff

honest hill
potent hornet
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i will be waiting for the BPs to roll out in the bp channel lol

dawn patrol
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^

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my goat leander got me

honest hill
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Well yeah that as well kekw

odd wren
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I dmed you some stuff @honest hill

midnight stirrup
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Hopefully maint ends early

honest hill
potent hornet
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i'm just watching one piece live action while i wait

edgy crater
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scarry movie PerliWheeze

midnight stirrup
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Imma do an all nighter and grind some wuwa probably

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or play some RE9

dawn patrol
drifting berry
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Gryphlink in their way to make the most atrocious BP weapons imaginable

drifting quest
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chen gaming

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its okay for rossi too i guess

edgy crater
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chen otw become crit fisher

drifting quest
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tangtangs is pretty bad

dry kindle
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Wao

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1800 oroberyl maint comp

dawn patrol
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3.6 pulls ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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more than umbral somehow icant

honest hill
odd wren
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My chen is really reaady

shrewd saffron
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do we have details on red gear yet? did i miss something PerliDerp

odd wren
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@gaunt mason mandatory tagging for a chen main

edgy crater
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red mi set surely an agi critter set

honest hill
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mi security chen

drifting quest
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ive seen nothing for gear

edgy crater
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no gear info yet? really

boreal siren
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One message removed from a suspended account.

proud vector
heady pine
edgy crater
heady pine
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but can't send here obvs lol

midnight stirrup
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That one solo Chen main losing it rn over bp

proud vector
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because gear should be avaiable

edgy crater
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welp, ingame checking later

drifting quest
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leak or datamine

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datamine is allowed

heady pine
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not leak

boreal siren
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One message removed from a suspended account.

drifting quest
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if spoiler tagged its okay

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speaking of

odd wren
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Any aic datamines?

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So far i found some

normal tangle
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||red mi?||

dry kindle
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Everything

normal tangle
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||so they're actually upgrades?||

drifting quest
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tangtang talent numbers
||20% move speed to allies, 40% slow to enemies on t1
t2 is 40/80(?doesnt show im guessing for upgrade)% increase to damage||

potent hornet
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i mean, the real question is, any crit dmg?

honest hill
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@edgy crater chen is calling to us LR mains PerliWheeze

edgy crater
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||if its true, then rossie be agi/will critter||

shrewd saffron
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does golden gear become complete redudent? even the upgrades (infuses) on them? or does it upgrade? feelsthinkingman

inland quarry
odd wren
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Sidegrades

reef ginkgo
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I might start doing tc in 1.1

gaunt mason
drifting quest
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yes

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its good

gaunt mason
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iโ€™m about to go to sleep

drifting quest
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better than sundering

odd wren
gaunt mason
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๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅ

odd wren
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Glorious Memory
||ATK +20%. When the wielder's skill applies Vulnerability, during the next ultimate cast within 30s, the wielder gains DMG Dealt +34%. Max Stacks 3
r9||

heady pine
odd wren
gaunt mason
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hell yeah

edgy crater
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glorius chen crit fishing the run with red gear lmao

gaunt mason
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no more ugly orange sword

boreal siren
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odd wren
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Glorious memory looks like kirito sword ngl

normal tangle
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maybe the real ugly orange sword was the friends we made along the way

gaunt mason
edgy crater
odd wren
boreal siren
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honest hill
normal tangle
drifting quest
odd wren
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Will

paper sand
boreal siren
drifting quest
normal tangle
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oh

honest hill
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Oh I see

heady pine
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wisdom is int no

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theres a seperate will

edgy crater
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aint will?

odd wren
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@boreal siren how about aether and swordmancer

compact bridge
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So where i can see tangtang number?

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
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int will agi str

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are the 4 stats

boreal siren
drifting quest
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i just guessed tbf

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it could be either

compact bridge
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Surely tangtang number isnt a spoiler right

normal tangle
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obviously it is

heady pine
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there cant be two wills

odd wren
edgy crater
drifting quest
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weirder but valid i guess

honest hill
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I will have wisdom

heady pine
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not tryna get banned

edgy crater
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damn we get smart chen set lmao

drifting quest
honest hill
boreal siren
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odd wren
paper sand
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@compact bridge

boreal siren
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dawn patrol
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rossi kinda looking like she's eating good rn

odd wren
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Safer xd

boreal siren
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normal tangle
edgy crater
normal tangle
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||100% ult dmg on bp weapon tells me her base numbers are not that good||

shrewd saffron
normal tangle
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i guess we'll see

dawn patrol
normal tangle
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isn't everyone

dawn patrol
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besides i am a believer

paper sand
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why was chen dumdum, whats wrong with current swordmaster

odd wren
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Oh oh

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Do we gettttttt endmin potentials?

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Please say we do

honest hill
drifting quest
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seen nothing for it

potent hornet
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i would guess 1 if we do

drifting quest
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let me double check

edgy crater
heady pine
normal tangle
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i'm no game designer

honest hill
potent hornet
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but i'm gonna bet we get our next one in 1.2

odd wren
honest hill
heady pine
midnight stirrup
honest hill
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chen chen stay a dum dum

midnight stirrup
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Hence base numbers lower = sig making up for it.

potent hornet
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what is antals base int?

midnight stirrup
#

But bp sig has never been that ideal for the char meant for it so well see.

honest hill
#

True

#

What does int do for chen

midnight stirrup
#

No clue

#

But some main stats are just dead on chars

heady pine
honest hill
potent hornet
honest hill
#

like the dead stats

#

ah

#

Dead stat

#

I wish they changed those dead stats to be useful

edgy crater
#

technically its not dead stat

potent hornet
#

do we have an int mainstat tank yet?

midnight stirrup
#

Even if we do who cares

paper sand
#

wonder why only lifeng got the stats talent

rare dew
#

is tangtang usable without yvonne? got gilberta tho

midnight stirrup
rare dew
#

fair

#

thought so

drifting quest
#

Tangtang pots
||
P1 - Combo Skill x1.2 Damage, -2 seconds (down to 10s from 12s), additional 5sp return per whirlpool (up to 25 from 20)

P2 - 20 Agility, 10% Cryo Damage%

P3 - Battle Skill x1.1 Damage, Susc increased by 5% (10/15% from 5/10%)

P4 - 15% reduced ult cost (down to 76.5 from 90

P5 - Ultimate x1.15 damage, +80% damage to spouts created by talent 2||

paper sand
midnight stirrup
#

I wish people thought before they asked questions ngl.

paper sand
#

she does yep

drifting quest
#

tt is pretty dead for lr now

#

might be dead for yvonne

paper sand
#

wait really PerliStare

edgy crater
#

back to ardel PerliDerp

drifting quest
#

||yeah the susc isnt high enough and her damage numbers are just eh||

boreal siren
paper sand
#

her aoe cryo application doesnt redeem her?

midnight stirrup
#

Nobody getting p3 TT, cooked unit, next.

paper sand
#

or the timestop?

drifting quest
#

no

midnight stirrup
#

P2 Gilb reigns supreme.

warm galleon
#

Hope I fail 5050 to Yvon PerliDerp

hollow wyvern
#

timestop is the only value left really

shrewd saffron
midnight stirrup
#

Timestop lowkey overrated

drifting berry
#

They really didn't wanted people pulling for Tangtang

drifting quest
#

its ||4s of timestop which is mid as fuck, and if you use the full 4s you dont get talent 2 and you want to get talent 2||

paper sand
#

only ||4s|| PerliDerp

edgy crater
hollow wyvern
#

just give up on her dmg shiftyderp

edgy crater
#

she really become premium fluorite lmao

boreal siren
#

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drifting quest
#

the damage isnt horrible but it's like not enough for how she is used in these teams

drifting berry
#

Just give up on Tangtang, No wonder they didn't reveal any numbers

paper sand
#

i have to pull regardless i got a dossier and need that aoe LOL

midnight stirrup
#

I'm for one happy asf she sucks. I didnt wanna get her, and would hate my life if LR/Yvonne demanded her.

drifting quest
#

there's certainly a world where tt is 'better'

drifting berry
#

Yeah, the sole purpose I was getting her was for my Yvonne

drifting quest
#

i wouldnt be hugely shocked if the team dpr edges out slightly at higher invest

hollow wyvern
midnight stirrup
#

Im definitely getting Rossi tho

drifting quest
boreal siren
#

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midnight stirrup
#

P2 Gilb stonks

drifting quest
#

dont quote that though i guess

potent hornet
#

i'm still grabbing her for the easy 4 stacks of cryo

icy remnant
#

If I get TT with free tickets It wonโ€™t matter

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

im not sure id call tt easy

#

for stacking

valid palm
midnight stirrup
#

Yeah I wouldnt be mad if I get TT off the free dossier.

paper sand
#

its kinda 1 sp/stack excluding the ult

edgy crater
#

throw tang2 on shattered team then PerliDerp

valid palm
#

If I had a dollar for every person who thought each water spout applied a cryo stack individually, I'd have enough money to P5 Tangtang for free

compact bridge
#

Is that wulfgard number copy paste into tangtang kit?

midnight stirrup
#

Was really hoping for Rossi to be first tho with that dossier.

potent hornet
icy remnant
#

Where do you guys see the numbers

paper sand
potent hornet
#

you get 1 from the skill and 1 from ult

boreal siren
#

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potent hornet
#

in protocol spaces you will always have her ult starting off

drifting quest
#

ive sent her entire kit here yeah

solemn pasture
#

so i guess we're waiting for a cryo sp battery

drifting quest
#

oh base skill

icy remnant
#

Wait we get all the tickets from the first 3 days

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Heck yea

drifting quest
#

its ||growth chamber stuff, didnt read exactly what||

paper sand
solemn pasture
#

what's the consensus for rossi again or not yet

potent hornet
#

you can quick stack 4 cryo with xai bs, LR bs, TT combo then ult

boreal siren
#

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paper sand
#

afaik rossi doesnt have numbers yet

proud vector
potent hornet
#

plunge with LR then combo skill

drifting berry
#

Tang Tang.

BP weapon: Sucks
Arts susceptibility: Low
Time Stop: Short
Damage: Underwhelming

compact bridge
edgy crater
solemn pasture
#

i guess I'm saving

heady pine
#

i mightve missed it

solemn pasture
#

gonna keep rocking gilberta and perlica for my LR lineup lol

drifting berry
#

Forced to skip

drifting quest
midnight stirrup
valid palm
drifting quest
potent hornet
drifting quest
potent hornet
dawn patrol
#

can someone ping me when servers are up

icy remnant
#

Anyways I wonโ€™t roll right away either but yall should take the doom posting w a pinch of salt as usual PerliStare

midnight stirrup
#

It's theorycrafting

odd wren
#

Ok

midnight stirrup
#

Go sit in endfield if u cant handle doomposting

drifting quest
#

the ||waterspout is the thing that applies infliction but it seems to be hard capped at 1 inflict per spout generation time||

odd wren
#

I found out something hahahaha

icy remnant
#

I mean someone has to say it

midnight stirrup
#

Everyone else here has common sense and knows what the channel entails

mystic halo
#

I cant believe people are evaluating numbers in numbers channel

midnight stirrup
#

You missed the memo it seems

edgy crater
twilit quail
#

wastewater is back this patch

#

as well

tranquil gate
#

Alesh's recovery is only 15+(10 if you're lucky with the rare fish) on the combo. You never use his battle skill.

drifting quest
#

reco is better than return

twilit quail
#

though in a different form

odd wren
edgy crater
#

ok

shrewd saffron
icy remnant
#

Plus TangTangs personal damage over Gilberta will probably end up as a ~10% increase in overall team dps is my expectation

#

But yea I donโ€™t play Yvonne so

#

I might not roll her if Last Rite doesnโ€™t need her

solemn pasture
#

really seems like last rite doesn't need tangtang

boreal siren
#

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midnight stirrup
honest hill
#

I'll wait ig

solemn pasture
#

yeah

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i was too

inland quarry
#

Now I'm really sad that I wasn't playing for gib banner lol

twilit quail
#

oh I have the gear

#

ok

honest hill
#

I was coping so hard

inland quarry
#

Looks like I don't have anything to pull for

honest hill
#

now I cry

odd wren
#

Ho ho ho endmin kinda got buffed with the new gear

midnight stirrup
#

Im chilling on P2P0 Gilb SMILERS

#

Rossi gonna eat good

icy remnant
#

I wish I rolled Gilberta
Iโ€™m sitting on 240 rolls for no reason rn

#

People were dooming her so hard

solemn pasture
#

well i have p0 gilb lol

midnight stirrup
#

I hope they introduce a new Rhodagon in 1.1

honest hill
solemn pasture
#

i didn't really see why people were dooming her, she has some pretty cool kit

inland quarry
#

The grouping alone makes gib useful

icy remnant
warped sorrel
#

dont pull character because

drifting berry
#

Didn't trust

solemn pasture
#

yeah the grouping was great

#

is*

drifting berry
#

Gilberta the goat

midnight stirrup
solemn pasture
#

mhm

inland quarry
#

I sadly didn't start playing endfield until gib banner had ended

honest hill
normal tangle
#

bro joined just for yvonne

midnight stirrup
#

Shes still worse than Ardelia in a lot of cases, but by a small margin, and has better quality of life overall.

warped sorrel
#

i hate the way gilb group
i love sucrose grroup

warm galleon
#

So TT does soup damage?

solemn pasture
#

well if rossi numbers don' tlook good I might as well wait even more for leek dress

inland quarry
#

I don't care for yvonne lol

solemn pasture
inland quarry
#

I'm running a lr f2p team rn

solemn pasture
#

my man

midnight stirrup
warm galleon
icy remnant
#

Who tf

honest hill
drifting quest
drifting berry
#

Soupsoup ended soup tier, what a surprise

midnight stirrup
#

It is F2P

honest hill
#

I just want upgrades

midnight stirrup
#

Xaihi Perlica Ardelia

shrewd saffron
#

btw any dataminer checked if we are getting authority above level 60 soon?

inland quarry
#

Is there any indication of whether post release balance changes are on the table? In general, not just for this patch

sleek ferry
#

Is there a guide on how to properly do weapon etching?
I managed to get the 3/3 rolls for Laevatin and Ardelia. What should I do next?

warped sorrel
honest hill
#

But if tt doesn't do anything for lr ggs

midnight stirrup
drifting berry
#

Guess I'm stuck with Alesh for a while

shrewd saffron
honest hill
#

Bro is speedrunning to 60

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Insane

midnight stirrup
#

Who cares

icy remnant
#

PerliDerp bro wants to get higher max level literally 2 months into the game

shrewd saffron
#

not really, just been doing dailies since release

midnight stirrup
#

Theyre not gonna increase level cap. They just released the game.

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Use some logic ya.

drifting berry
warped sorrel
#

why is he beefing people lmao

normal tangle
#

that's the same person

drifting berry
shrewd saffron
#

was just a question, no need to get offended by it owoShrug just know that other gachas had a longer grind to max (typically 6-8 months of daily grind)

odd wren
#

Mannnnnnnnnnn

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Endmin potentials when

warped sorrel
#

low temper lmao

compact bridge
#

We are doomposting rossi too hard, turn out tangtang is worse

midnight stirrup
#

Nah yall just cant handle people being direct

drifting quest
#

i mean this is tc

midnight stirrup
#

Conditioned to be soft by the internet

drifting quest
#

minmax

warm galleon
drifting quest
#

everything is getting doomposted

#

tt is fine from a non tc non minmax perspective

tranquil gate
#

Most content in the game favors aoe over single target. Single target mainly matters for trimming bosses

warped sorrel
drifting quest
#

there's even a case she might be an improvement in some cases

warped sorrel
#

i mean suck

icy remnant
#

TT is fine even with a min max perspective, sheโ€™s gonna be on the best Cryo team PerliStare

warm galleon
#

I'm still going for 120 cause I want one Yvon dupe PerliDerp

midnight stirrup
icy remnant
#

It might not be a power leap or whatever but itโ€™s still an upgrade

timber harness
midnight stirrup
#

Well probably max him out by the end of Wuling is what i'd imagine

drifting quest
twilit quail
#

Redeemer
chest 1 AGI+115(+149) basics dmg+14.40%(+18.72%)
chest 2 INT+115(+149) ult gain+12.86%(+16.71%)
hands 1 AGI+86(+111) ult dmg+45.00%(+58.50%)
hands 2 STR+86(+111) all skill dmg+24.00%(+31.20%)
frontier
chest INT+87(+113) AGI+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)
kit 1 STR+41(+53) ult dmg+51.75%(+67.27%)
kit 2 WIL+41(+53) phys dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)
hands WIL+65(+84) STR+43(+55) all skill dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)
yinglung
chest 1 AGI+87(+113) STR+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)
chest 2 AGI+87(+113) INT+58(+75) combo dmg+20.70%(+26.91%)
kit 1 AGI+32(+41) STR+21(+27) ult dmg+51.75%(+67.27%)
kit 2 AGI+32(+41) INT+21(+27) combo dmg+41.40%(+53.82%)
bonecrusher
chest 1 AGI+87(+113) STR+58(+75) cry/elec dmg+11.50%(+14.95%)
kit 1 AGI+32(+41) STR+21(+27) skill dmg+41.40%(+53.82%)
hands 1 STR+65(+84) AGI+43(+55) heat/nat dmg+19.17%(+24.92%)
hands 2 AGI+65(+84) STR+43(+55) cry/elec dmg+19.17%(+24.92%)
security
chest AGI+87(+113) INT+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)
kit AGI+32(+41) INT+21(+27) CR+10.35%(+13.46%)
hands AGI+65(+84) INT+43(+55) ult dmg+43.12%(+56.06%)
Hot work
chest INT+87(+113) WIL+58(+75) heat/nat dmg+11.50%(+14.95%)
hands STR+65(+84) WIL+43(+55) AI+34.50(+44.85)
lynx
kit STR+41(+53) HP+41.40%(+53.82%)
swordmancer
hands STR+87(+113) WIL+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)
kit 1 STR+41(+53) AI+41.40(+53.82)
kit 2 STR+32(+41) WIL+21(+27) phys dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)
aethertech
kit 1 AGI+32(+41) STR+21(+27) phys dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)
kit 2 STR+32(+41) AGI+21(+27) skill dmg+41.40%(+53.82%)
hands WIL+65(+84) AGI+43(+55) all skill dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)
pulse
kit 1 INT+32(+41) AGI+21(+27) AI+41.40(+53.82)
kit 2 WIL+41(+53) ult dmg+51.75%(+67.27%)

drifting quest
#

requires a lot more tc and calcs

warm galleon
honest hill
#

wtff

noble tapir
#

Holy fucking wall

midnight stirrup
icy remnant
#

Wait did I just see Ult gain frontier set

twilit quail
#

1 piece

#

sadly

#

the chest as well

odd wren
bronze plume
#

W

noble tapir
#

Looks like the new security pieces are made for rossi

drifting quest
#

quick skim over nothing stands out as huge

twilit quail
#

what a surprise!

midnight stirrup
#

My eyes

drifting quest
#

im sure there'll be some minor stuff that tweaks but no huge changes to expect

twilit quail
#

no

timber harness
#

Is rossi not in the pool with tang or was that just a launch thing with the other limited at the start

odd wren
#

Bruhh swordmancer procs + ai + stagger endmin gonna cook

noble tapir
#

Oh that new hot works chest kinda good no?

bronze plume
#

rossi isnt in tangtangs banner that is correct

timber harness
bronze plume
#

tangtang will be in rossis banner

bronze plume
twilit quail
#

da pan could be back

paper sand
#

yvonne getting 5 banners worth of spooks PerliWheeze

bronze plume
#

thats just how it works

twilit quail
#

actually

midnight stirrup
#

So who is in TT

#

Yvonne?

odd wren
paper sand
bronze plume
#

tangtang banner is with yvonne and gilberta

timber harness
midnight stirrup
#

P1 Yvonne surely

paper sand
#

its THE banner to pull you have godly offbanner luck and want cryo teams

icy remnant
#

wait ARTS INTENSITY SWORDSMANCER

odd wren
#

Endmin is cooking

icy remnant
#

My Endmin gonna be godly holy

odd wren
#

Imagine i have p5 gv with 263 ai

icy remnant
#

Bro Iโ€™m so excited for new gear

drifting berry
#

P1 Yvonne was probably a higher upgrade than getting Tangtang

paper sand
odd wren
#

Arts intesity

paper sand
#

ohh

noble tapir
#

Pan is strength scaler right?

drifting berry
#

STARTED AT THE BOTTOM ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ NOW WE DIGGING

noble tapir
#

Main stat, I mean

twilit quail
#

str wil

odd wren
icy remnant
paper sand
#

mi fu took all her numbers

noble tapir
#

Damn thatโ€™s pretty huge for pan then

inland quarry
#

Repost for formatting. Source: @ๆˆ‘่‡ชๅŠจไธ‹่ฝฝๅŽŸ็ฅž

Redeemer:
chest 1 AGI+115(+149) basics dmg+14.40%(+18.72%)

chest 2 INT+115(+149) ult gain+12.86%(+16.71%)

hands 1 AGI+86(+111) ult dmg+45.00%(+58.50%)

hands 2 STR+86(+111) all skill dmg+24.00%(+31.20%)


Frontier:
chest INT+87(+113) AGI+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)

kit 1 STR+41(+53) ult dmg+51.75%(+67.27%)

kit 2 WIL+41(+53) phys dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)

hands WIL+65(+84) STR+43(+55) all skill dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)


Yinglung:
chest 1 AGI+87(+113) STR+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)

chest 2 AGI+87(+113) INT+58(+75) combo dmg+20.70%(+26.91%)

kit 1 AGI+32(+41) STR+21(+27) ult dmg+51.75%(+67.27%)

kit 2 AGI+32(+41) INT+21(+27) combo dmg+41.40%(+53.82%)


Bonecrusher:
chest 1 AGI+87(+113) STR+58(+75) cry/elec dmg+11.50%(+14.95%)

kit 1 AGI+32(+41) STR+21(+27) skill dmg+41.40%(+53.82%)

hands(I think)1 STR+65(+84) AGI+43(+55) heat/nat dmg+19.17%(+24.92%)

hands 2 AGI+65(+84) STR+43(+55) cry/elec dmg+19.17%(+24.92%)


Security:
chest AGI+87(+113) INT+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)

kit AGI+32(+41) INT+21(+27) CR+10.35%(+13.46%)

hands AGI+65(+84) INT+43(+55) ult dmg+43.12%(+56.06%)


Hot Work:
chest INT+87(+113) WIL+58(+75) heat/nat dmg+11.50%(+14.95%)

hands STR+65(+84) WIL+43(+55) AI+34.50(+44.85)


Lynx:
kit STR+41(+53) HP+41.40%(+53.82%)


Swordmancer:
hands STR+87(+113) WIL+58(+75) ult gain+12.32%(+16.02%)

kit 1 STR+41(+53) AI+41.40(+53.82)

kit 2 STR+32(+41) WIL+21(+27) phys dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)


Aethertech:
kit 1 AGI+32(+41) STR+21(+27) phys dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)

kit 2 STR+32(+41) AGI+21(+27) skill dmg+41.40%(+53.82%)

hands WIL+65(+84) AGI+43(+55) all skill dmg+23.00%(+29.90%)


Pulse:
kit 1 INT+32(+41) AGI+21(+27) AI+41.40(+53.82)

kit 2 WIL+41(+53) ult dmg+51.75%(+67.27%) 
odd wren
#

So pan can use swordmancer now?

timber harness
odd wren
#

Dapan swordmancer wtf

noble tapir
#

Do we go redeemer kit with new hot works chest on laev now?

icy remnant
#

Need to see if Laev is marginally better with Hotwork chest and an Ult gain Kit

midnight stirrup
#

We not going back to Laev tc

#

Leave her in the ditch she belongs

warm galleon
#

Pulse Gilb set drops PerliStareYou

timber harness
#

Nah its just for tangtang

twilit quail
#

no second slab

midnight stirrup
#

So uh

midnight stirrup
#

Are people who artificed max cooked?

edgy crater
#

new gear basically for tang2 n rossie

hollow wyvern
paper sand
#

so wait if we dont plunge attack do we still get the cryo inflict on tt ult

hollow wyvern
#

nice

odd wren
icy remnant
hollow wyvern
#

ER yvonne saved

edgy crater
#

@gritty briar oi, whats ur fluorite gear?

bronze plume
#

i mean that redeemer chest would be good for laev probably Int and Ult gain for the ult set

proud vector
hollow wyvern
#

can run ER while also slab

inland quarry
#

What's ER?

warm galleon
hollow wyvern
#

xiranite really didn't get jack shit huh, tt bricked

#

ult gain

inland quarry
#

How is ult gain er lol

hollow wyvern
#

PerliStareYou it's that bad?

midnight stirrup
paper sand
lime nacelle
#

In Genshin it's called Energy Recharge, people haven't upgraded their language yet.

noble tapir
#

ER is from other games

proud vector
midnight stirrup
#

Old habits die hard

hollow wyvern
#

xira need agi pieces

inland quarry
#

This is what I get for playing a gacha game because it had a factory

icy remnant
#

Which one is the Chen set

midnight stirrup
#

Server is up

lime nacelle
#

SERVER IS UP?!

#

My Tangtang...

shrewd saffron
#

nice bait, only 30 minutes since last time kek

noble tapir
#

Does Chen not just run swordmaster still?

inland quarry
#

I didn't even get to use linear algebra for my factory. Arcospheres when.....

midnight stirrup
paper sand
shrewd saffron
#

I mean since last time someone baited, not targeting you chill

odd wren
#

Any dapan glazers online?

warm galleon
#

Since I started playing Vindictus/Elsword back in 2010 I call stuffs stamina which is the sanity in this game.

potent hornet
#

i remember Elsword

#

that was fun

hollow wyvern
#

oh yeah what was tt second stat again

lime nacelle
#

Theespada.

heady pine
midnight stirrup
warm galleon
odd wren
heady pine
#

agi primary

hollow wyvern
#

that's.... workable ig?

#

a few xira pieces have second stat str

#

still hella cope

compact bridge
hollow wyvern
#

surely there's a non set option that gets enough ER while high enough atk

#

hmm

odd wren
#

Imagine if that happens

lime nacelle
hollow wyvern
#

wait yeah the Mi body piece is just bonecrusher that ER yvonne runs already

odd wren
#

Lifeng with er

hollow wyvern
#

so it's still upgrade

lime nacelle
#

I'm going to call the police.

hollow wyvern
#

instead of bonekrusher body + second crit kit, you can do MI body + lynx slab

#

so you can still slab with ER

lime nacelle
#

Do you need "ER" if you have P1 Yvonne?

hollow wyvern
#

no

lime nacelle
#

Sweet.

timber harness
#

We can see rossis number when it goes live right

drifting berry
#

Huh, something happened that Yvonne now needs ER?

timber harness
#

Or are we cooked

twilit quail
#

another new pog set is on the way

dry kindle
#

Another phys L

odd wren