theorycrafting

[gritty olive]

so i can just stare

[smoky quarry]

Like this one

[gritty olive]

at least send the whole clip, not just where her ass is protuding outward

same case for chen gif

[unreal light]

Here, tang tang belly, close ur eyes

[drifting berry]

They made sure Tangtang weapon only worked on her, Fluorite mains in shambles

[gritty olive]

you can send the whole gif but if you only explicitly sent the hand motion one, youre gonna get smited

[smoky quarry]

This clip is the whole point of their promotion video though

Try to say that I'm not right here

[unreal light]

Yeah, it’s sad that Fluo isn’t getting a new weapon

[drifting berry]

What? The Chen gif can get you warned?

[unreal light]

They say so

[drifting quest]

crazy how one sig weapon unbricks a unit entirely

[drifting berry]

bro

[gritty olive]

of course what other message would it want to deliver across when sent on its own

[gritty briar]

it got my hopes up when i saw agility and atk
then the entire passive ended up being cryo

[warm galleon]

[smoky quarry]

casually skipped half of etching

[quasi quarry]

support unit 101, either self sufficient or reliant on a weap with more buffs than their kit, no inbetween

[edgy crater]

bruh, mine only 141

[smoky quarry]

Copium, we'll get z7 alters one day

[gritty briar]

well i guess i'm just not pulling anything for a while

i only really wanted the gun if it would work for fluorite

[drifting berry]

Waiting for Tangtang number, I wanted to pull but I give priority to Rossi

[smoky quarry]

Just p5 wedge

[gritty briar]

true

[quick hinge]

They should start doing something WITH the Z7 squad before we get alters (as in, we have an entire flipping Dijiang squad of playables, yet they are non-existent in the story)

[smoky quarry]

just make 30 character events at this point

at least half of them should be pure fanservice without lore

[quick hinge]

a suggestion i put in the survey is to have Endmin delegate some of the side quests/errands to the Z7 squad members, and have us actually control them for the duration of the quest.
It would make them feel part of the story while also reducing the absurdity of the Endmin being an errand boy/girl for everyone

[drifting berry]

I mean it's possible, tho I hope they don't give them alter for the alters to be 5*

[smoky quarry]

6 stars looking mid right now

I genuinely prefer how they do 5 stars

[bronze plume]

the first gacha luancher that actually has good download spd wow

[smoky quarry]

Predownload during maintenance lol

[drifting quest]

oh its out

[drifting berry]

I like 5* characters if they are a character I don't like. If it's a character I like I want them to be 6*

[warm galleon]

Ohhh no TCers are back to mines now

[drifting quest]

i started at 100mb

then dropped

so fast

i assume many people started dl'ing

[smoky quarry]

Think about it another way, if it's 6 stars, then you are gonna go bankrupt on them

If you want them and their sig maxed out

doesn't happens with 5 stars

[warm galleon]

The thing about 6stars is they guarantee in 120 pulls, 5stars can dodge you til eos.

[smoky quarry]

6 stars guarantee exist only for two weeks though

after that you're fucked

[drifting berry]

That's why we spend money 🔥

Also save

[warm galleon]

Are new 5stars going to be avail after the patch?

Or in 6 months

[smoky quarry]

imagine working 9-5 5/2 just to buy in-game currency

I genuinely don't get it

[bronze plume]

you can say the same about 6 stars tbf

[drifting quest]

time to start stalking the cn and kr forums

for datamines

[smoky quarry]

datamines 6 hours before release 🔥

[warm galleon]

$115 package is 60 pulls so
Just think of them as $230 DLC operators with a chance of discount

[bronze plume]

the packs are dogshit

[quick hinge]

This is nothing for them, Iana is upgrading the community guide from 2027. Now THAT is dedication

[drifting berry]

You like the game, you spend money (optional).

Ofc also being intelligent with your spending, buying those originium packs are horrible, I just buy monthly + BP.

[warped sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/penguinz0-discord-mods-mods-gif-25467090

[smoky quarry]

Just imagine that your wage is 23$/h. Would you pay 10 hours of your life spent in work for something so meager as in-game char?

[drifting quest]

datamines are allowed

[dry kindle]

That's the usual for hg

For cn anyway

[warm galleon]

$23/hr is a skill issue

[warped sorrel]

i know bu here the catch

[warm galleon]

*hides

[edgy crater]

longinus?

[smoky quarry]

23 or 37, it doesn't matters. Think about hours of your life wasted

Isn't that depressing?

[bronze plume]

whats depressing is i dont have max pot adele in ef

[quasi quarry]

rosi ult multiplier, absolutely broken or absolutely buns, call it

[drifting quest]

1800-2400

depending on conditionals

is my guess

which is workable

if its less then it gets doomed

[quasi quarry]

I've been wondering if her DoT will be anything to write home about tbh

[wispy lark]

It isn't anymore depressing than the amount of hours people are working and still unable to pay their bills or save up for a car

[gritty briar]

I was gonna say 1500%

[quasi quarry]

I hate when games add meaningless DoT effects

[odd wren]

Dot in a game where nuking boss in 5 seconds exist

[normal tangle]

it's not really wasted, you'll spend that time at work regardless

[bronze plume]

i do wanna know why they gave her a fiawehiu dot

[odd wren]

[normal tangle]

it's not like you can just choose to work less hours randomly for no reason lmao

[smoky quarry]

Work Time = Money. To waste money is to waste your own time

[normal tangle]

i don't really see it that way but i guess

at the end of the day, you're making a set amount of income regardless. how you choose to spend the excess is entirely up to you

[drifting berry]

You are literally spending money on entertainment

[gritty briar]

well someone could have a flexible side gig and can choose to work more or less for extra money

[normal tangle]

even if it's not gacha chars, it'll be coffee or ramen or fried chicken or whatever else

[drifting berry]

More gacha currency makes gachas more enjoyable

[odd wren]

[smoky quarry]

A conflict of worldviews. Many people find it easier not to think about where their money goes and what they invest their lives in.

[normal tangle]

everyone spends excess income on things to enjoy themselves with, the route you take to do that doesn't matter in the end

[bronze plume]

shouldnt need that tbf

[bronze plume]

also this

[wispy lark]

We're also wasting our precious time on discord by that logic and the internet is also optional to living, waste of money to pay for internet, the list goes on

[odd wren]

[smoky quarry]

You're making a fallacy by assuming that free time equals to work time

[drifting quest]

i sure do love nothingburger arguments in the tc channel

[gritty briar]

actually no, i'm at work and there's basically nothing else productive i'm allowed to do because our tool is broken

and half the time i'm on the bus home

[normal tangle]

what are we gonna tc bro

[odd wren]

[normal tangle]

game's not even alive, we have no data

[vapid flame]

increase DMG taken on tangtang sig means we should roll on it right?

[gritty briar]

so like there's actually no opportunity cost for me

[drifting quest]

datamines are literally happening in real time

fym what are we gonna tc

[normal tangle]

yeah but they haven't happened yet

[gritty briar]

i could literally not be doing anything else

[normal tangle]

until i see numbers in front of me idc

[drifting quest]

there's a couple already

they're just not numbers

so any minute now

[smoky quarry]

FUCK YOU MEAN 35 GB UPDATE

[normal tangle]

wym already, i haven't seen any

[smoky quarry]

WHAT

[drifting quest]

its not 35gb

[normal tangle]

drop your sources

[drifting quest]

the 35gb is to download > extract

[warm galleon]

TCer yearns for the mines

[drifting quest]

the actual space after the fact is less

it'll reclaim used space

[odd wren]

So @drifting quest I got a warning last night for posting an image of my weapon in team building, where i did post it multiple times already since the tike i got it xd feelsweird, i think what you saying about the bans before makes sense now lol

[normal tangle]

a lot of that data is replacing old files

[smoky quarry]

I don't care about space on the ssd, it's gonna take shitload of time to download with 5mb/s

[shut cobalt]

what are the best dpses atm? number wise
for aoe and st

[normal tangle]

download 500mb file, delete 450mb file

you downloaded 500mb but in reality it's only +50

[odd wren]

Laev

[drifting berry]

Let's go

[normal tangle]

or whatever

[drifting quest]

me when i say something logical but noooooooo im gatekeeping the channel trying to stop people being banned

[shut cobalt]

for both aoe and st?

[odd wren]

Yeah

[gritty briar]

did this predownload grant us any forbidden knowledge yet?

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[odd wren]

She can do both

[drifting quest]

there's no

'best' dps

its all conditional

[normal tangle]

laev is certainly the easiest and cheapest

[drifting quest]

you have to set constraints if you want an actual answer

[drifting berry]

There's a best dps and she's Laevatain

[odd wren]

Not really best yes but she can do both

[normal tangle]

there are better performers with more skill i think

[drifting quest]

cost? time? content? team?

[drifting berry]

everythgin

[smoky quarry]

Can lavatein oneshot rhodagn in 5 seconds though

[drifting quest]

if we're speedrunning laev is like bottom 3

[smoky quarry]

like LR does

[odd wren]

Answered base on what he wanted xd aoe + st

[shut cobalt]

was asking to clear stuff as fast as possible
dailies, umbral etc
and what about overworld

[drifting quest]

aoe and st what though

overworld they're basically all equal

[odd wren]

Probably general content?

Yeah general content

[bronze plume]

clearly ardelia is bottom 4

[drifting quest]

fast clear depends on your skill, investment, owned units

[smoky quarry]

Anti-boss parties in overworld kinda suck

[gritty briar]

does laev lose in aoe against anyone though?

[smoky quarry]

Especially if enemies die quicker then you can setup

[drifting quest]

i mean most enemies fold to a single battle skill

[smoky quarry]

Happens all the time

[drifting quest]

oh no my boss speedrun team doesnt need 4 ults to kill 1 trash mob it only needs to press 1 button

[shut cobalt]

assuming ur running the best team, which are best?
for dailies and umbral

[drifting quest]

again there is no best team

its a fallacy

[smoky quarry]

Not that, it just feels awkward

[shut cobalt]

i mean the best team for a dps for the said situation

[odd wren]

[normal tangle]

which is an issue when your aoe clear relies on the enemies living through that battle skill

[drifting quest]

more information is required to constrain it

[warped sorrel]

they ostt spoil us on metal slug bro

[normal tangle]

i can't final strike a solidified enemy on yvonne if all the enemies instantly die

lost half my kit

[drifting quest]

if you want an accurate answer give more details

if you want a less accurate answer take what was said already

[smoky quarry]

Yeah, something like that

Or enemies die faster than you can apply heat on lavatein

and you just sit without battle skill

not fun

[shut cobalt]

these teams
i assume theyre the current best atm from what the rating says
but how are they matched in clearing dailies, umbral and overworld content

[smoky quarry]

Avywenna team not mentioned, inquiry invalidated

This isn't a roflteam mind you

[hollow wyvern]

for dailies my yvonne gilb team gets sub-30 sec consistent clears no food no ult

[drifting quest]

at what? p0p0? p5p5? sigs? cope options? gearing? essences? artificing? average over all? skill floor/ceiling? proper rotation? rotation proofed?

flexibility?

future proofing (bad)?

[next helm]

Best daily farm team

[drifting quest]

the one you enjoy playing

[warped sorrel]

small update

[drifting berry]

Why all the mental gymnastics to say Laev is not the best dps operator in the game /s

[gritty briar]

best daily farm is just anything with gilberta in it tbh

[smoky quarry]

I get download errors every 30 seconds, god save my soul

[vapid flame]

best team for farming filets from overworld

[drifting quest]

the woes of no preload

servers overload and you get booted off

[drifting berry]

Whoever has the fastest first auto attack animation

[drifting quest]

pog + any pistols unit

[hollow wyvern]

any team should be able to speedrun daily in 1.1 with full ults

[shut cobalt]

p0p1 for 6*, p6p5 (assuming the 5 weapon is good enough or 1 if using sig if its not) for 5/4
maxed everything else gear wise, assuming average skill, proper rotation (since i assume u'd ask) idk what u mean with average over all and rotation proofed

[smoky quarry]

What kind of datamines they are afraid of, they showed most of the content

the policies bruh

[honest hill]

maybe they don't know what pre load is

[drifting quest]

p1? (base is p0)
p6? (max is p5)
p5 sigs for 5*'s (some are 6 star weapons)

rotation proofed means team works if you fuck up the rot

[gritty olive]

qat least datamine is fine. leak isnt

but you need to spoiler tag datamines orrectly

[next helm]

pp

[dire fractal]

is update out for NA/EU

[drifting quest]

update yes

[smoky quarry]

should be ranged attack also

[drifting quest]

maint still ongoing servers shut

[dire fractal]

when opening

[smoky quarry]

5,5 hours

[quasi quarry]

tbh i think the best answer for a "best team" atm would be phys, it's the most consistent accross all content I'd say, has lots of cc effects and staggers super quick, just wants more investment is the issue

[drifting quest]

6 hours at worst

maybe sooner

[smoky quarry]

.maintenance

[crystal coral]

**Server Maintenance Completion**

Maintenance Time:

• <t:1773266400:F> ~ <t:1773288000:F>
• <t:1773266400:R> ~ <t:1773288000:R>
• Server open at: <t:1773288000:F>

Please note that this timestamp will automatically adjust to your timezone!

[shut cobalt]

i assume the first p means char dupes and weapon is the other p from what u said
and sorry, forgot here its p5 max for chars AND weapons
and assuming u dont mess up the rot and if u do too

[vapid flame]

the filet ask was a joke

[drifting berry]

[drifting quest]

if you have no issues with cost (5-8 cost team moment)
and dont want absolute fastest thing
then probably yes

[drifting quest]

yeah its p(char)p(weapon)
but 1 copy of both is p0p0

[smoky quarry]

Dataminers have found wedding event from 2.1

[drifting quest]

but the argument for other teams is lower cost, faster clear times for some content

[next helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/840238949506744380/1479167875641245858/FernDance.gif

[drifting quest]

laev can be 2 cost (4, with freebies)

[quasi quarry]

yeah when i say consistent im ignoring fastest clear times, but if you put clear times between all content phys should have the most consistent clear times which for the average player not speedrunning is probably really valuable

and since the game is 1 team content atm, you technically don't need to invest into anything else for now

[next helm]

Do weapons count as cost

[drifting quest]

yes

[bronze plume]

should the ones you can get for "free" count tho

[smoky quarry]

no way they are not going to introduce element resists

[drifting quest]

1 copy of 6* = 1 cost
different people will rank p5 5*'s as 1cost too

[drifting quest]

people will argue for both cases, I would though for consistency purposes

because the selector means lifeng could be 0c

for some

[shut cobalt]

p0p1 for 6*, p5p5 (assuming the 5 star weapon is good enough for said char (for example, panda can use canal well enough instead of exemplar) or pot 0 using the 6 star weapon if its not) for 5/4 star
maxed everything else gear wise, assuming average skill, proper rotation (since i assume u'd ask) and please say assuming u dont mess up the rot AND if u do too

[drifting quest]

you can argue semantics for free for everyone vs free for some

[odd wren]

Tbf can easily trim everything in this game

[quasi quarry]

if you mean harsh ones idk, because there are alr differences in enemy resistances, but i dont like to assume things

[bronze plume]

when you right you right

[drifting berry]

Ardelia still free in 1.1?

[gritty briar]

i dont like counting selectors as free cause people can choose other things and there's opportunity costs there. I don't mind calling Ardelia free, assuming she stays free forever

[quasi quarry]

ardelia's event is permanent no?

[drifting quest]

ok so if its p1 weapons then i need to go look at how much each weapon gains from p0 to p1 so I cant give you an answer

[drifting berry]

Doesn't seem like it

[shut cobalt]

oh, wait p1 isnt the base sorry i meant p0 for 6*s

[bronze plume]

half a month long patch

[drifting quest]

assuming EXACTLY these constraints and ONLY these constraints then most likely physical
but again this is only within these specific exact constraints so that does not mean it is universal by any means
changing even 1 factor of this will change the answer

[odd wren]

Ah finally done for the download now just need to wait

[drifting quest]

mine's basically done i think

dropped the dl like 10 times total

[dusk isle]

How much was the in game download

[drifting quest]

its like 9gb post update

[odd wren]

For mobile phone?

[dusk isle]

Yes

[drifting quest]

6 for mobile i think

[shut cobalt]

for all 3 forms of content atm? (dailies, overworld and umbral)
and i asked for if u mess the rot and if u dont, which one did u answer with that

[odd wren]

I did 435mb in playstore
90mb initial in game
4gb final in game

[drifting quest]

yes averaged over all 3 and rot proofed

[odd wren]

@dusk isle

[dusk isle]

Have to download it in class, my data is not enough

[drifting quest]

oh i gotta open endfield on mobile to dl

[shut cobalt]

if u were to mess the rot up, which would be best?
im assuming u mean getting hit by stuff

[dusk isle]

Thank you

[odd wren]

[warped sorrel]

guys
don tmake a game that need 150gb to play

[drifting quest]

i included rot proofing already

[shut cobalt]

oh, i thought rot proofing was not messing up the rot, mb
alr, thanks!

[proud vector]

Oh is the download done for some people

that means…. Datamine will trickle in?

[drifting berry]

At any moment, I hope

[drifting quest]

datamines have been trickling in already

just not relevant stuff

[proud vector]

[glass birch]

What kinda stuff?

[proud vector]

Is like baiting a dog with smell of bacon

[drifting quest]

random stuff

[bronze plume]

no gear or tt and rossi yet?

smh what they doin

[drifting quest]

not that i have seen

[glass birch]

Like the sky is blue and sewage is black?

[edgy crater]

sewage line?

[smoky quarry]

qingbo stockade is gonna have a waterwheel

all my leaks are available for 15$/m, subscribe!

[glass birch]

Processing the new ore produces waste (sewage) that you refine into the acid used in SC Wuling batteries

[edgy crater]

expected then

[smoky quarry]

#aic-factory is gonna have a field day with this one

[glass birch]

We making power from crap

[warped sorrel]

the download fail

[glass birch]

And I wanna see the any# first to fill wuling with sewage

[smoky quarry]

you get kicked from servers cause they're overloaded

restart downloading every other minute

[granite junco]

so what your saying is... Acid lake

[smoky quarry]

I'm gonna burn like a batttery acid

[edgy crater]

uranium lake

[glass birch]

Quite the trip

[smoky quarry]

can we get thermal fission to generate morbillion of energy?

[glass birch]

Inb4 a new region let's us make our own nuclear plants

[smoky quarry]

like nuclear ginseng?

That's crazy

I wonder how food will look with this one

[edgy crater]

hg treat xiranite like uranium lol

[dusk isle]

Boiling water to turn turbines is going to be so 🔥 with this one

[smoky quarry]

How about cold fission?

[dusk isle]

We are going to be condensing so much steam with this one 🗣️ (i have no clue about cold fission sry)

[drifting quest]

they probably meant cold fusion because

cold fission is vastly less interesting

[dusk isle]

But i guess cold in cold fission is with respect to the regular fission temperatures, so i guess we could still boil water with it

[drifting quest]

no its

different

cold fusion is about the temp

cold fission is about excitability (which is somewhat related to temp granted)

[dusk isle]

I stopped taking physics courses after electromagnetism so i have no clue tbh

[drifting quest]

what level of em though

[dusk isle]

Enough for electric & electronics engineering

Undergrad

[drifting quest]

id expect there's some crossover then

[valid palm]

I swear they designed this gun to be as close as possible to a viable supportive option for Fluorite just so they could blue ball her by not making it actually compatible.

[drifting quest]

its basically about low excitation energy to the point of not producing any neutrons

[hollow wyvern]

they love to make weps as unit specific as possible

[smoky quarry]

Gun has a green shit inside of it, how come it's not compatible with nature

[drifting quest]

whereas 'hot' fission produces neutrons to cause the typical chain reaction and excess heat

[smoky quarry]

That's why I am saying, signature is a scam if the unit is not hypercarry

[hollow wyvern]

like if we get another cryo gun unit at some point, they're gonna apply cryo on combo, and only combo

[valid palm]

Good main stat. Good substat. A passive she can actually activate, but it's useless. Another passive that's very useful, but she can't activate.

[hollow wyvern]

that way they can't use any existing weapons that well

so in a way we can kinda figure out what a future unit will do with their kit

it'll be something to not synergize with current options

[smoky quarry]

People consider rossi mid already?

[valid palm]

Like the weapon is genuinely like right there but stops short a hair from the finish line

[drifting quest]

based purely on what information we have until datamines roll in for her sig and kit

[glass birch]

Honestly I like Rossi

[valid palm]

Her kit is hard to work with atm. She will be dependent on future support, or her numbers just being broken enough to carry her.

[glass birch]

clear build up to pay off

[smoky quarry]

and I'm not losing anything on skipping tangtang if I don't like yvonne, right?

[drifting quest]

it only considers minmaxxing too

[drifting quest]

for not pulling her? she's prob good for non speedrun lr too

[drifting quest]

i like her kit, ive said this many times

i just dont think it's set up to be good from tc minmax perspective

[smoky quarry]

support that's mid without its signature is a red flag for me

[drifting quest]

she's probably okay without sig but man does sig make her a lot better

[smoky quarry]

okay is kind of mid

[drifting quest]

with no clear good alternative since her bp choice is

something

[smoky quarry]

just as always

[edgy crater]

tang2?

[dry kindle]

6 hour maint right

[smoky quarry]

at least umbral torch at p5 is like, 90% of lavatein dps compared to forgeborn

so it's bareable

[dry kindle]

Yay

[valid palm]

at most, yes

[drifting quest]

at most 6hr (5 left)

could end sooner

[smoky quarry]

why at most, we have strict time bounds

[dusk isle]

What are your thoughts on navi tang2, someone in help asked me about it (in a yvonne team as subdps)

[drifting quest]

1.0 was up what 4 hours early?

[valid palm]

A lot of similar gachas end up ending maint a bit sooner than that, and Endfield especially dropped 1.0 multiple hours early 💀

[smoky quarry]

Premature birth

with defficiencies

[drifting quest]

theoretically copeable, practically weaker due to not caring about crit as much

[gritty olive]

im getting 80% strength

[valid palm]

that extra 4 hours of dev time would have changed everything

[drifting quest]

esp since she doesnt get to double its bonus like yvonne

[gritty olive]

curious as to where this number arises

[drifting quest]

doesnt get to use the int too (probably)

[dusk isle]

Makes sense, my maybe with 3 question marks were justified

[smoky quarry]

another question, what are they doing for another 5 hours of maintenance once they install update?

[valid palm]

testing to make sure everything works probably

a bunch of backend stuff that nobody besides other game devs could guess or understand

who knows

plus, it has to go live on so many servers at once that installing the update itself could take some hours to make sure everything's synced up properly

[smoky quarry]

lack of pre-download experience

[valid palm]

there's a reason that these gacha games usually give themselves a huge time window for maintenance just in case things go wrong or go longer than expected. That way they can avoid the rage/backlash from 'maintenance going late' and instead they get to pick up the hype and excitement of 'maintenance ending early' nearly every patch

[smoky quarry]

Sucks that they didn't chose better time window for update in europe

[edgy crater]

ba 23hours mt incident

[smoky quarry]

it's both terrible for EU and NA

We don't have to follow china time zone, aren't we?

[valid palm]

yeah it's always based on Home Base's time zone

[smoky quarry]

Servers are separated anyway

I don't see reasoning except for not giving a fuck

which might be the case

[valid palm]

and it's really not that bad because the only other option is that they delay maintenance even further for western time zones. Because there's no way they're letting it release early for westerners

[edgy crater]

synchronizing

dats normal

[valid palm]

so I'd prefer it at a bad time to having it come out late at a 'good time'

[warm galleon]

Asia got to beta test the new operator before it becomes avail to NA

Unless after maint*

[smoky quarry]

can we help ban him

[edgy crater]

13hours clairvoyance

[dusk isle]

"hnaf what is in weekly rotation" aah

[smoky quarry]

any leaks on weekly rotation

[drifting quest]

it'll come with time

datamines started then stopped

[valid palm]

rising ascent

[warped sorrel]

do cn love ak

[valid palm]

(source: it came to me in a dream)

[prisma venture]

what did i do

[drifting quest]

at least the ones ive seen

[smoky quarry]

Gryphline got them already

[dusk isle]

Im sorry

[lean pawn]

So will asia and europe have the same release events now?

[warped sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/on-my-way-to-beat-you-up-omw-meme-on-my-way-to-beat-you-up-gif-26460987

[bronze plume]

no

[edgy crater]

same time, different time zone

[bronze plume]

asia will always be early for newer things that come out after the patch

its just a patch makes everything the same for a lil

[lean pawn]

Ye make sense

[edgy crater]

tho its much better if u can get free clairvoyance

[lean pawn]

How big yall think the map gone be?

Something like lodespring?

[edgy crater]

should be small

[lean pawn]

Or quarry?

[edgy crater]

quarry to me

lodespring size map probably on new aic area

[valid palm]

Me getting to play with Tangtang when patch drops: 😄
Me realizing I have to do the SP calcs for Tangtang when patch drops: ☹️

[lean pawn]

Thanks for your sacrifice

[warped sorrel]

smallest of them all

[valid palm]

Nah, getting the SP itself isn't that bad when it's only one character at a time. Unlike when I had to do the entire roster all at once

[lean pawn]

Like the one with the small girl who got oripathy

[valid palm]

It's more having to wait for Endaxis to update sequence data for timings

[smoky quarry]

"it is not small, it is slighter below average"

[valid palm]

Rossi will be interesting though, since I don't plan to pull for her. I'll have to try and see if I can't measure her properly in the test drive environment

[lean pawn]

I prob aint pulling for any of them

Imma hoard my 80k oros

[valid palm]

jesus

[lean pawn]

Unless rossi is gamechanging unit

[valid palm]

Her numbers have to be really good for her to be a competitive unit. For her to be gamechanging they'd have to be insane

[smoky quarry]

any wish for the whales

[lean pawn]

I am not planning to get zhuang or mifu either..

[valid palm]

Which isn't impossible I suppose but Rossi doesn't feel like the kind of flagship character that they would be willing to break the game so early just to shill

[smoky quarry]

How about birb?

[lean pawn]

Maybe mifu but I need to see her archetype

[lean pawn]

Who is birb?

[noble tapir]

I will be there for

Peacock hair girl

[lean pawn]

Guess I hoard my oro up to 1.4

[lean pawn]

Is she heat char?

[valid palm]

I wasn't expecting to like Zhuang very much, but playing the Wuling story endeared me to her a bit

[smoky quarry]

no idea, we've seen her design and name

[valid palm]

Something about her eyes and demeanor

[smoky quarry]

but she be looking fine

[lean pawn]

Talulah is heat char tho

[smoky quarry]

brother that's not lycia

[noble tapir]

Talulah going to be the anniversary character lol

[smoky quarry]

as for the looks, might be electro like arclight

[lean pawn]

I know..

[smoky quarry]

cause eyecolour

[lean pawn]

Who ever lycia is talulah og?

[smoky quarry]

she just looks like talulah

Isn't descendant nor reconvener

[lean pawn]

I didnt play ak og at this point I just confused myself

[smoky quarry]

you also confused me

cause idg what are you talking about

[lean pawn]

So lycia is perlica evil friend from the comic

[smoky quarry]

Not evil, just wayward

She chose to go alone

[lean pawn]

I know but they are basically ying and yang type of story

[gritty briar]

lycia gonna die and be the new frostnova

[smoky quarry]

I'll retire if that happens

[lean pawn]

Lycia had a fire blade if I remember corectly

[smoky quarry]

and call in my bank for refunds

[warped sorrel]

must be nature

[smoky quarry]

actually she's aqua

[lean pawn]

At the moment I am just pulling for char that fits heat or phys team or hybrid to those 2

So rossi is a possibility if her stats good if not 1.4 hopefully has something for me to pull

[smoky quarry]

I hope GH won't make supports that are usable in two comps

[gritty briar]

she can't be a 6 star gacha character cause the pits are covered so she's either dying or a 5 star

[smoky quarry]

We need more supports like gilberta and ardelia

[abstract fractal]

surely we will get the numbers from predownload datamine

[smoky quarry]

have you seen her ass?

that's playable level

[lean pawn]

Make it like genshin fischl sucrose bennet and xinqui still on top

[smoky quarry]

at least 6 star

[lean pawn]

Lycia looks rather generic honestly but they made her look important

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-lycia-endfield-arknights-gif-14797098958337955702

[smoky quarry]

That's just design without bright colors

I find it likeable a lot

Also actual clothing

[lean pawn]

I mean we got also tang tang which they made 6 star...she doesnt feel 6 star at all

[smoky quarry]

(another stone in the garden of LR)

[smoky quarry]

they can't make money out of 5stars yk

[lean pawn]

Add them to the banner rotation

[smoky quarry]

cause everything gotta revolve around getting money

[lean pawn]

Hg be pushing us to revolt so they can ease up with their greed

[drifting berry]

Mifu feels like a 5*, Tangtang doesn't

[lean pawn]

Quite opposite for me

Altho both feel 5 star

When you have jade leek on board

[smoky quarry]

I like how tangtang tries to cosplay megumin with that eyepatch lol

[bronze plume]

the thing about someone feeling like a 5 or 6 star is literally personal preference and makes 0 fucking sense

[gritty briar]

look it's just a hard requirement that all the gacha 6 star women aren't allowed proper sleeves

this is law

[smoky quarry]

Six stars gotta look luxury

Cause they ARE luxury

[valid palm]

Well, they also need two new 6 stars for the version since it's too early to rerun someone. So it's either make Tangtang a 6 star, release someone like Zhuang early (which they're obviously saving her for Wuling's finale), or pull a brand new character out of their ass

[gritty briar]

mi fu wanted to get away with having sleeves but they only let her keep 1

[smoky quarry]

her armpits are visible too?

I just never cared enough to check

[gritty briar]

one of them

[smoky quarry]

hoyoverse level of asymmetry lol

[midnight stirrup]

What the fuck.

[lean pawn]

Ig thats what genshin made us percieve how 6 star should look like.

[valid palm]

Did you see Tangtang's back arch in the story? Kitty IS luxury 🙏

[smoky quarry]

tell me her design isn't forgettable

[bronze plume]

genshin made people think alot of stupid shit

[smoky quarry]

also rate the angle of the shot lol

[valid palm]

I dunno, I'm not a big fan of the whole "More complex = more good" trope for anime designs

[lean pawn]

Percieve and stupid complain shit is big difference

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-gif-17648717245612896183

[valid palm]

exactly what I was thinking of lol

that and the stretching

[edgy crater]

chunni design, easy not to forget

[smoky quarry]

damn, the tail physics are nice

I always like that

[gritty briar]

see you can tell it's a 6 star when the sleeves don't cover anything

[lean pawn]

Well you prob are minority, cause there has to be some kind of incentive to attract peoples 30k

[valid palm]

Sometimes simple is good, especially when it helps highlight a small handful of key features rather than overloading a design with bloated complexity that doesn't actually add anything

[smoky quarry]

You gotta bait whales into donating 4k dollars for a character

[smoky quarry]

Even if it's a low hanging fruit

[lean pawn]

By making them look badass, I mean look at pog truly 6 star when I see one.

[valid palm]

Except Pog isn't a very complex design either

It has detail to it but it's very simplistic

[drifting berry]

I mean it's pretty easy, Generally speaking "Good looks = more popular" when it comes to character design. Also the "generally speaking" become "99,9% of the cases" when it comes to gacha

[lean pawn]

He got a great stance tho and generally good ass drip

[valid palm]

Right, I agree

[proud vector]

the designs atm hit just right. not toooo overcomplicated due to more dull colours being used but not boring either

[lean pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-man-ursus-gif-15387734823852870858

[valid palm]

But Pog is actually a fantastic example of "More complex = more good" is not necessarily a good design philosophy

He has a simple and straightforward design with just enough detail to make him not look flat or undercooked

[lean pawn]

He still looks generally extra

[prisma venture]

what i like is attention to texture

[proud vector]

your eyes get dragged to his face due to colour contrast

[smoky quarry]

I'm not playing endfield today I guess

[late ruin]

pog is fucking sick bro

[proud vector]

is that bytes per second lmfao

[valid palm]

"pale russian pretty man in dark colored clothes" does that pretty well huh 👀

[lean pawn]

What could entrice tang tang design more if she a blue earring, or cloak just bit more extra, doesnt have to be fully bedazzled, but it would give her bit more 6 star vibe

[prisma venture]

they should have gave him a beret

[dusk isle]

Minor inconvenience

[prisma venture]

would have topped him off like a coke bottle

[lean pawn]

Naaah

[proud vector]

pog in a metal gear solid suit when

[valid palm]

💀

[proud vector]

unironically

[edgy crater]

pog basically hellagur BOC skin

[prisma venture]

like electrical grounding but for the eyes

[valid palm]

Although, I have to applaud Endfield for putting some actual men into their game

[lean pawn]

Pog so far the sickest 6 star design

[lean pawn]

Is lifeng hated?

[valid palm]

I'm too used to gachas exclusively putting twinks and pretty boys in

[proud vector]

honestly we do have a little bit of range yeah

[valid palm]

Like, I don't dislike those characters and I get why they sell in anime games

[prisma venture]

his slur/mumble makes him sound like a drunk general

[smoky quarry]

I personally hate him for stealing 3 legendary pulls of mine

[valid palm]

But range and variety is important

[lean pawn]

Lol

[dry kindle]

Ange boc when

[proud vector]

you've got the anime protag catcher, the slit eye guy in alesh, the older gentleman type in pog

its a decent spread

[prisma venture]

"my....handdecides WHo livesor dies..."

[drifting berry]

Also it depends on which game we are talking about, Arknights has a history of making highly detail designs for their character, while other games like Blue archive have more simple character designs, which works really well for them because artists have a easier time actually making fan art for them.

[proud vector]

unlike games where all the guys are just hot young guy

[edgy crater]

yeah, im waiting too, the belts skin

[lean pawn]

Give mr crowe as 6 star operator we nuking the whole place

[drifting berry]

Like this skin is for a 4* operator

[smoky quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-swire-ch'en-chen-arknight-gif-8447540012097957982

is this chen?

[dry kindle]

Chen3

[drifting berry]

the og

almost

[gritty briar]

3 chens in a team

[smoky quarry]

Just add swire-like cat please 😔

her design is so good

[valid palm]

Genshin waited until Fontaine to put in characters like Neuvillette and Wriothesly, but even then they didn't really hit as hard as they could because Hoyo wouldn't make new models and just gave them the regular skinny boy models from 1.0

[drifting berry]

We don't talk about Chen 2.0 beta

[lean pawn]

2d is just much easier than 3d tho

[dry kindle]

Real

[drifting berry]

og Arknights is 2d

[lean pawn]

She looks like an urchin

[edgy crater]

ah yes, kanokari face

[smoky quarry]

swimsuit skins in akef when

[valid palm]

WuWa also looked promising with Jiyan and Kalcharo, but they dropped both in 1.0 and we never saw anything like it ever again

[edgy crater]

there's already skin mod for it

[smoky quarry]

shhhhh

[lean pawn]

I know I am saying 2d is easier to catch attention than 3d since the chibi chars doesnt have much to add they had to make eycatching portraits

[smoky quarry]

can't talk about that on official server

[valid palm]

So I'm hoping Endfield gives us more designs like Pog and doesn't leave him alone in 1.0

[edgy crater]

i saw xaihi bikini mod skin

[valid palm]

But Arknight's designs makes me hopeful

[smoky quarry]

I saw xaihi feet anim

[lean pawn]

Playable mr crowe

[smoky quarry]

objectively better

[edgy crater]

n the cursed lifeng with tanktop

[lean pawn]

You loved it

[edgy crater]

fak dat shit

[lean pawn]

What if they mod his voice to sound like a woman

[valid palm]

You joke, but I think "random NPCs that become really popular" would be such an easy win for Hypergryph to add as 4 stars

[smoky quarry]

he is 16 btw

[drifting berry]

Actual femboy

[lean pawn]

No I genuinely want mr crowe as playable char

[edgy crater]

it is mod skin femboy, with skirt too

[edgy crater]

lifeng 15 tho

[dry kindle]

[proud vector]

but the giant spear

[smoky quarry]

Playable Shawa

[prisma venture]

They need a blue version that's half his height with sleeves too long for the character model but just as serious

[smoky quarry]

Or what's her name, birdie in top

Looks nice

[edgy crater]

andre as op

[lean pawn]

Should I write in survey, mr crowe as an operator? Would they heed my call?

[dry kindle]

Hg after holding everyone in NPC jail

[valid palm]

Like it's obvious why other gachas don't add random unplanned NPCs as 4/5 stars (Endfield 5/6 stars) but with Endfield having a cast of easily accessible but weak(er) '3 star' characters, it would be much easier for them to implement

[smoky quarry]

Wait, is her promo-outfit different from the ingame one?

Or it's the same

[edgy crater]

its same

[proud vector]

i think there might be minor differences?

[lean pawn]

But whats the need for 3 or 4 stars? Just an event a collab?

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[warped sorrel]

its like compare an AAA game to a piece of shit

[edgy crater]

or u mean the gun?

[smoky quarry]

I don't recognize white shirt

[hasty grail]

the yellow sleeve doesn't go around the entire arm ingame

[lean pawn]

I liked rossi darker color than her playable, her red is so bright

Is it just me?

[smoky quarry]

what is bro even talking about

[proud vector]

but red = fast, the orks said so
So if we make rossi red she go zoom zoom

[valid palm]

I mean 4 stars, which are like 3 star characters compared to the gacha standard from other big games

[edgy crater]

ingame white shirt hidden beneath her parka or something

[valid palm]

And because of their lowered power budget and animation quality, it's easier to justify adding a popular NPC as a little gimme for brownie points

[smoky quarry]

they exist just to dilute headhunt pool

[valid palm]

ZZZ kind of did that with Pulchra

[proud vector]

oh because a model already exists and all that

man i can see an april fools segment shenadigans

[edgy crater]

fgo

[lean pawn]

She be bright bright

[valid palm]

No they don't lol. If 4 stars didn't exist here you would be pulling 4 star weapons instead lol

[swift tundra]

Chat, is Tangtang going to start rapping this while Wuling is being destroyed in the background?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8px96F1onAM

[smoky quarry]

Just gimme 50 arsenal tokens instead of 4 star dupes

[valid palm]

Endfield added 4 stars so that you're getting a character with every pull, instead of JUST the 5/6 star drops.

[smoky quarry]

It doesn't matters honestly

[lean pawn]

Bet do credit shop

[warped sorrel]

nice spoil bro

[smoky quarry]

Pulling another 4 star dupe or useless 4 star weapon

It's the same

[lean pawn]

Credit shop is heavens gift, at least for now..

[edgy crater]

[valid palm]

I would agree with you if 4 stars were useless

but Akekuri is goated and Antal/Estella are both solid units

[lean pawn]

Anyone counted how much oro or arsenal yall got after month of emptying out credit shop

[smoky quarry]

like 300 a month

[lean pawn]

The heck you mean..

[valid palm]

Like I call them '3 stars' but thankfully Hypergryph didn't actually balance them like that

[edgy crater]

bruh nickname for gold only user got banned here

[valid palm]

People say
4 stars - 3 stars
5 stars - 4 stars
6 stars - 5 stars

But honestly, they're balanced more like

4 stars - 4 stars
5 stars - 4.5 stars
6 stars - 5 stars

[lean pawn]

You get potentially 20-60 arsenal oro is rarer so lets say commonly maybe 20-40 at lucky days no all the time

[smoky quarry]

6 stars more like 4.75 stars

[edgy crater]

[drifting berry]

Disagree, the whole point is saying that more complex =/= better. I bring Blue archive because the way in which the design character and do the art is not as complex but they still manage you make the character design that look good and are coherent.

There are exception for both arknights and ba tho.

[lean pawn]

Deffo not 300 per month tho

[drifting berry]

Nothing has been datamined yet?

[smoky quarry]

You can get 1 oro or arsenal trade everyday, even two if you focus them and ignore all other trades

[smoky quarry]

@drifting quest

[warped sorrel]

exactly
some people love piece of shit
and some hate AAA

[drifting quest]

stuff is coming out now

[inland quarry]

How do you guys handle the credit shop? The rerolls get pretty expensive but credit income is also fairly high, around 900 a day?

[valid palm]

I will say the biggest issue with 4 stars is that AIC Quota becomes saturated very early, and max dupe 5 stars just give more AIC Quota instead of giving more Bond

[drifting quest]

its just a case of sifting through what is real, datamined or leaked

[smoky quarry]

is it hot?

[lean pawn]

No I had one day where I got only 1 arsenal...all 3 refresh had nothing for me..

[valid palm]

I always just max purchase Arsenal/Oro and spam rerolls. Very rarely do I not have enough credits to buy out everything

[drifting quest]

only relevant thing ive seen so far is tt sig

[lean pawn]

Quadruple 400 cost oros

[drifting quest]

checking tt kit now

[valid palm]

It's way more common that I reach the end and have some credits to spare on little bits and bobs

[inland quarry]

What do you do with excess credits when you just don't get enough pull currency to spend it all on those?

[lean pawn]

You spend until you have 300 for tommoroq

[edgy crater]

just spent it

[valid palm]

Just buy the cheapest mats until you're near 300

[lean pawn]

If its 320 and everything cost 140 or something you just let it overflow

[valid palm]

If I have like 350 and there's a 70 cost I might do it, but usually I won't go below 300 unless it's for premium currency

50 wasted today isn't as bad as being short 20 tomorrow

[lean pawn]

Anyway I think arsenal you could get 1k per month

More or less

[summer flicker]

[drifting quest]

Tantang Sig
||Base Attack 505+
Cryo damage +44.8%
+56% Cryo damage when the wielder applies Cryo Infliction with a battle skill or ultimate

Apply +16.8% Arts damage taken by the target when the wielder grants Arts susceptibility with a battle skill or ultimate
Each effect lasts 20 seconds, exists independently and does not overlap||

should be right

[proud vector]

holy shit

[lean pawn]

You think its less?

[summer flicker]

holy duration

[drifting quest]

idk if this is r4 or r9

[summer flicker]

ye

[edgy crater]

w8, its stack then?

like 2 debuff icon

[drifting quest]

||one is self buff, one is enemy debuff||

[edgy crater]

[lean pawn]

I have 3k arsenal when I bought battle pass it was 1.9k, you do get usually 20-60 arsenal a day, rarely its 20 its mainly 40-60.

[valid palm]

No need for spoilers, it's already in #twitterfeed

[edgy crater]

oh

[summer flicker]

well its mainly rng

you could get alot of oro instead

[drifting quest]

numbers inc?

[valid palm]

oh

[edgy crater]

not number for sure

[valid palm]

nvm you're right

[lean pawn]

Oro are less given I think its generally made like that

[valid palm]

yeah

[summer flicker]

do you hve the susc number

🙏

[drifting quest]

||5/10/30 per number of whirlpools is what ive heard, waiting to verify||

[lean pawn]

What you see more often oro or arsenal @summer flicker

[drifting quest]

which is

holy fuck man

[summer flicker]

oro

[summer flicker]

wtf

[valid palm]

||100% cryo damage is absurd if her numbers aren't bad||

[proud vector]

oh jeez thats kinda fucked up

[lean pawn]

Its been constantly arsenal for me, you say you get 20-60 oro per day?

[edgy crater]

w8, khrav also give 56% number on r9, so dat number probably at r9 as well

[drifting quest]

im guessing this is ||rank 9, not rank 4, so roughly 50-60% of the values||

[humble matrix]

It seems more or less similar rate. Arsenal slightly more often

[drifting quest]

the site that had them (which i will not be linking) seems to have 404'd now

so i cant give more

[proud vector]

jeez 404'd

[edgy crater]

overload lmao

[drifting quest]

idk if its cloudflare doing it or not

[valid palm]

okay but if it's ||rank 9|| then the amp numbers seem kind of low, no?

[proud vector]

its the hyperglyph assassins

they got to the guy

[drifting quest]

they should be

given the susc value

[proud vector]

susc itself is very high

[valid palm]

Maybe it's not supposed to be that strong, but I would expect it would be if it's a maxed limited sig. Seems more likely that it's base, and Tangtang's personal damage is just weak enough to justify the self-buff

Well, true maybe

But that just makes her weapon feel a bit unnecessary

Which is like, the opposite of what people were saying earlier xD

[proud vector]

which is good!

[valid palm]

Not that it's a bad thing if that's the case, yeah

supports especially being reliant on a sig is rough

[drifting quest]

it should be more damage less buff

[glass birch]

whirlpools cap at 2

[drifting quest]

because we have to talk about powercreep if ||that's r4 numbers||

[drifting quest]

is this datamined somewhere

i thought the video showed 3

[glass birch]

During showcase

[normal tangle]

||16.8% does not sound like r9 number to me||

[glass birch]

So unless changed; its 2 whirlpools

[edgy crater]

56% number sound r9 to me

[normal tangle]

that may also be true

[proud vector]

oh do you need 4 active spinnies to get to that high of a susc

[normal tangle]

idk maybe miners got confused

[proud vector]

from ult bs 2 cs

[summer flicker]

erm, 2 whirlpool, your bs, and ult create 1 water sprout + number of whirlpool consume (max 2)

[normal tangle]

we find out in 4h

[edgy crater]

dats khrav value

[drifting quest]

maybe its ||per spout not per pool||

again website is borked

[normal tangle]

what website

[drifting quest]

secret special website im not linking and getting banned for

[proud vector]

per sprout seems strange since it should be 0 for 1 sprout

[drifting quest]

not sharing in dms either dont bother

[glass birch]

gatekeeping leaks. Rude.

#banned

[drifting quest]

not leaks

datamines

[glass birch]

fine datamines Again.

[drifting quest]

if it were leaks id get banned anyway

[normal tangle]

damn bruh i had your back and you do me like this 💔

[proud vector]

not allowed to spread datamine how to here

[dry kindle]

Smhsmhsmh

[summer flicker]

but the buff is not real, 😭

[bronze plume]

leaks arent allowed here in the first place

[summer flicker]

||5|10|30|| is crazy

[drifting quest]

omw to check server guidelines for the nth time to make sure datamines are still okay

[summer flicker]

.datamine

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086674729865226/1329386702946566206/unknown-1.png

[edgy crater]

ok dat jumping in number really big wtf

[bronze plume]

datamines are or else you woulda finna been banned a while ago

[drifting quest]

i know

but tism brain 'what if they changed it'

[bronze plume]

then they should let the channels that deal with datamines know it was changed with a pin or someshit

[valid palm]

this image is absurdly funny, especially for an official image

or at least 'semi-official' (placed there by appointed mods in the bot)

[drifting quest]

apparently ||no rossi numbers either|| which is a joke

[normal tangle]

worst dataminers on earth vro 🎋

[drifting quest]

||mid version update for rossi stuff so that it doesnt get datamined early lmfao||

[valid palm]

Might just be early

[drifting quest]

no like

||they're not in the files, apparently||

[valid palm]

!

[normal tangle]

oh what

[valid palm]

insane

[normal tangle]

that's dumb as hell (?)

[drifting quest]

yes

it might be wrong

because this is info between 3 different languages and like 20 different people

[valid palm]

😭

[normal tangle]

these ru players

[lime bear]

is the update out

[drifting quest]

the dubious souce

[lean pawn]

Oh whoops okay sorry mod

[warped sorrel]

i think i saw something

[lean pawn]

Mod be hiding here

[warped sorrel]

must have been a wind

[lime bear]

it's an official discord and you shared leaks

[primal hemlock]

yeeted lol

[bronze plume]

that literally said leak brother think before sending

[lean pawn]

Ye my bad

[drifting quest]

i mean hey

at least mods are watching help channels

[valid palm]

also, do we think skins being a big part of arknights means that they will be coming to endfield eventually, or is the difference in effort needed for 2D vs. 3D artwork meaning that it will be a lot more sparse, if we get any at all

[warped sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-wheat-field-gif-24502825

Hey

[drifting quest]

quite literally official communication from HG is that they dont want to do skins in endfield

[normal tangle]

you shoulda seen team build channel last night man

[valid palm]

ah, didn't hear about that

[proud vector]

what happen

[valid palm]

which is a bit of a shame tbh

[warped sorrel]

sad i really want skin to be a thing in endfield

i might be doing alter then

[valid palm]

I prefer gachas monetizing off of skin revenue rather than powercreep

[bronze plume]

they didnt say they didnt want to just that its not something theyve have in the crosshairs atm

theres a chance for it

[warped sorrel]

have you try Nightabyss or something i forgor

[dry kindle]

But muh AS skins

[bronze plume]

but i highly hope and doubt itll happen in like a year

[drifting quest]

they gotta actually drop them all in ak first

[dry kindle]

Explode

[drifting quest]

ok

its here

[dry kindle]

Hg after holding like 40 potential as skins hostage

[glass birch]

Whats here?

[valid palm]

Plus, skins means that if there's a character you like the kit for but don't really like the looks, you have a second chance at wanting to use the character (which is good for the devs since it means they capture a larger number of people pulling for the character and the skin revenue)

[dry kindle]

Is it potential chen

[valid palm]

DNA? Yeah I did try it but didn't get super far because I was busy when it launched

I plan to give it a fair shot, just haven't gotten around to it yet

[warped sorrel]

they kinda did what you asking

[dry kindle]

Oh yeah do we even have energy numbers and stuff or go fuck ourselves moment

[potent hornet]

so its looking like perlica is getting replaced by tang tang and we give Stanza to Ardelia?

[glass birch]

Considering util it might be 120

[potent hornet]

for LR team

[warped sorrel]

gotta see the number first

[potent hornet]

the arts suscept on the gun alone replaces elec no?

which is the only reason she is in the team to begin with

and a stanza bot

[humble matrix]

bro getting a character for it's weapon

[warped sorrel]

i dont know
gotta see the number first

[glass birch]

isnt AI Electrification perlica stronger than 16%?

[drifting quest]

Tangtang Kit
||Rank 12 numbers
Basic Attack -
SEQ 1 - 51%
SEQ 2 - 56%
SEQ 3 - 79%
SEQ 4 - 82%
SEQ 5 - 113%
Finisher - 900%
Dive - 180%

Battle Skill -
Shot Damage - 180%
10 Stagger
Spout Damage - 300%
Spout Duration 3s
SP Return Per Whirlpool - 20
Arts Susc-
2 Spout - 5%
3 Spout - 10% (thank god)
Duration 15s

Combo Skill -
240%
30s Whirlpool Duration
10 Stagger

Ultimate -
Total Damage Mult for DoT - 320%
Duration 4s
Rogue Wave Mult - 400%
Early Rogue Wave - 700%
Stagger 15
Early Rogue Wave Stagger 20
||

talents and potentials next

but have at that

[dry kindle]

No energy numbers

[glass birch]

Okay so it's 5/10%

[dry kindle]

Time to frame count

[valid palm]

where tf did the ||30%|| come from then lol

[glass birch]

Ehhh

[drifting quest]

||AGI STR|| as her stats

[warped sorrel]

she kinda mid

[dry kindle]

New gear mined?

[edgy crater]

wtf with dat stat

[drifting quest]

checking later

[valid palm]

maybe that's a dupe thing?

[dry kindle]

Booooo

[twilit quail]

the demon of sp refund returns

[potent hornet]

the arts susceptibility on her battle skill would get overwritten by her sig no?

[normal tangle]

wow these are...not very good?

is it crazy to say she's just a bad char

[glass birch]

Was probably looking at whirlpool duration and thought it was suscept %

[valid palm]

her sig isn't susceptibility, it's amp

[normal tangle]

||her sig does not amp||

[warped sorrel]

what is he on

i want what he is having

[glass birch]

Its personal dmg% and damage taken debuff

[valid palm]

it's amp on the target, not the team

but it is an amp

[potent hornet]

that clearly says susceptability

[dry kindle]

Its 1.1 we are not still confused about this shit surely

[glass birch]

Dmg taken =/= amp

[summer flicker]

oh its not ||30|| 🙏

[valid palm]

It's not the named Arts Amp

but it is a damage amp on the target

that's what that means

she's not stacking two susceptibilities

[normal tangle]

bro don't use terms that don't apply then

[drifting quest]

||T1 nothing extra, no numbers

T2 Increases damage dealt by a multiplier that isnt listed, otherwise nothing new

P1 - Combo Skill damage mult increases, cooldown decreases
Battle Skill returns additional SP

P2 - Agi and Cryo Damage increases

P3 - Battle Skill increased damage, susc increases (this is probably the 30% listed before)

P4 - Ult cost down

P5 - Ultimate damage increased
T2 improved to increase waterspout damage created||

[normal tangle]

why call it amp if it's not amp

what are we doing

[dry kindle]

R9?

[midnight stirrup]

Read again

[potent hornet]

ignore me i read it wrong

[drifting quest]

||check the p3 lmao||

[drifting quest]

assumedly yes, no clue for sure

[twilit quail]

ULT COST DOWN

saved

[drifting quest]

no numbers yet

[warped sorrel]

ok it is just there like
it just happen

[proud vector]

worst timeline

P3?!

[drifting quest]

Home Longing
||ATK +20%. For 20s after the wielder casts a combo skill, the wielder's next battle skill gains Cryo and Nature DMG Dealt +22%. Max 2 Stacks
R9||

[glass birch]

When the wielder applies susceptibility, applies a dmg taken debuff.

[drifting quest]

nothing for rossi

[glass birch]

What about the sword?

[hollow wyvern]

anything for TT

[drifting quest]

scroll up

[glass birch]

scroll up

[midnight stirrup]

This tangtang?

[drifting quest]

bp

[glass birch]

BP gun

[proud vector]

bp wep

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

I was about to say wtf is the nature damage for

[paper sand]

thank god bc ||10%|| is high or is low?

[drifting quest]

Glorious Memory
||ATK +20%. When the wielder's skill applies Vulnerability, during the next ultimate cast within 30s, the wielder gains DMG Dealt +34%. Max Stacks 3
r9||

HOLY

HOLY

HOLY

[honest hill]

ohh

[drifting quest]

CHENBROS

[warped sorrel]

low

[honest hill]

wtf

[midnight stirrup]

Thats pretty good

[proud vector]

YOOOO

[normal tangle]

chen powercreep gg

[solemn pasture]

wait this is real?

[glass birch]

Rossi can full stack that in 1 inflict and 1 bs LOL

[hollow wyvern]

oh hwow

[drifting quest]

should be (datamines)

[honest hill]

that's super strong huh

[hollow wyvern]

her buff numbers so low

[summer flicker]

hmm p3 tt

[hollow wyvern]

ig her sig is most of her support value

[summer flicker]

[glass birch]

Thats stupid strong for Rossi

[honest hill]

okay whale

[warped sorrel]

maybe she hit hard idk

[summer flicker]

im considering it

[hollow wyvern]

how good is her dmg looking with those multis

[summer flicker]

kekw

[midnight stirrup]

Wait 34x3 cant be right

[normal tangle]

not very

[drifting quest]

meh, it's okay

[hollow wyvern]

oh wow

so sig carrying a lot of weight

[solemn pasture]

wait so what's tang2 and rossi looking like with these numbers i just woke up from a nap

[hollow wyvern]

ngl a fairly easy skip for a lot of ppl then

[boreal siren]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dry kindle]

Imagine having weapon pulls can't be me

[potent hornet]

phys geared weapons have dumb dmg

[drifting quest]

not in files afaik

[glass birch]

LOL TRUE

[normal tangle]

we have no rossi info

[twilit quail]

fyi aspirant max is 33.6%*3(and that waepon is not good)

[normal tangle]

tangtang looks kinda meh

[glass birch]

Rossi's weps are so strong

[honest hill]

similar to clannibal so P0 R4

[twilit quail]

this just has better mechanics

and has 6* base atk

which does mean it will be a lot better

[bronze plume]

they doing anything to try make rossi useable

[drifting quest]

||They changed the sign in event, all 5 pulls are available by day 3||

rejoice

[dry kindle]

The world if it was atk% second line

[hollow wyvern]

oh thank fuck

[normal tangle]

wait did the battle pass weapon box have an expiration date