theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

i had an antidepressant (purely for insomnia, not for depression) that worked for a bit but now im too tolerent of it

[bronze plume]

L bozos lost in court when i was young

[brisk pecan]

this is probably a bad idea but have you tried alcohol

like a shot of vodka or smth

[drifting quest]

im not allowed to drink alcohol im also on blood thinners because haha my genes suck

[dawn patrol]

i have an antidepressant (because i have depression) and it ruins my life

[brisk pecan]

oof

[bronze plume]

Have you tried a baseball bat

[dawn patrol]

find a discord user without medical problems challenge (impossible)

[drifting quest]

if i were normal i sure would not be here

[bronze plume]

Fr

I woke up at midnight

Its nearly 7am

Im still in bed

[next helm]

Calling yourself not normal

[dawn patrol]

in the medical sense yeah, it's pretty accurate

[gritty briar]

no one here is normal

[dawn patrol]

crippling depression wasn't normal last i heard

[bronze plume]

How do you define normal

[next helm]

You are normal, just struggling with stuff

[bronze plume]

Like that one spongebob episode

[dawn patrol]

i legit have no qualms about being ill so this just does nothing for me

actual nothingburger statement

[bronze plume]

I like being big ill

[next helm]

It does nothing

[chilly bolt]

So tuer

[bronze plume]

It made the government pay me

[next helm]

But if you repeat that you are not normal too much it becomes reality for your brain

[rare zodiac]

what are we tc? i just skim and see depression, alcohol recommender and some one with 1 less leg

[bronze plume]

Get your own gangs win a lawsuit vs yo government

[warm galleon]

If you have a garage, park your car inside while engine is on > close the garage door > open your car window > recline the seat > sleep

||please don't||

[bronze plume]

Have you got a tc question

[dawn patrol]

praying to get hit by a car on campus for free tuition rn

[rare zodiac]

nah i tune in to see if there is any question

[warped sorrel]

is AOE damage in this game has diminishing returns the further away from the center

[dawn patrol]

not that i can tell

[bronze plume]

Defo not

[gritty briar]

haven't seen any operator like that

[bronze plume]

That would be funny tho

[drifting quest]

i cant think of an aoe that is not a true aoe

but im sure there's an example out there

[dawn patrol]

fiametta s3

[gritty briar]

maybe there could be a boss mechanic like that

[brisk pecan]

technically it diminishes (it doesn't hit at all) when far away enough

[drifting quest]

the rec algo farmer

[bronze plume]

Best bird

Fiametta mentioned

She was 1 od the 2 i said they should add from ak into ef in the cbt2 surveys

Give me fiametta, give me pozy

And you have my life

[dawn patrol]

americans liking the ops with guns what else is new

[bronze plume]

Im not american

[pure spoke]

Tangtang when

[bronze plume]

What made you think that

[dawn patrol]

the vibes

[bronze plume]

Mf

I am

From

New Zealand

[dawn patrol]

also suing your government for medical malpractice

EW

[pure spoke]

Thats an insult nowadays

[gritty briar]

I just assumed Beef wasn't american cause they have health issues and aren't in crippling debt

[bronze plume]

Why do you think i shit talked Aussies

[dawn patrol]

filthy kiwi

[warped sorrel]

i would love to see operator with big guns
not just hand cannon bs it look silly
not an american tho

[warm galleon]

Soon™
Wait faster

[bronze plume]

YOU LOST TO A BIRD

[pure spoke]

[dawn patrol]

your country isn't even real

vestigial organ of australia

[bronze plume]

80% of your country is a wasteland

[drifting quest]

"Medical tests have confirmed that no infection is present."

[glass birch]

Quite the #off-topic we got going here.

[dawn patrol]

at least it's 80% of a real country

[bronze plume]

We can change that in 153 years

[drifting quest]

no questions no tc (nothing to tc really till 1.1)

[next helm]

You could be living in the nether

[pure spoke]

But can i play lr with yvonne?

[drifting quest]

can yes

[dawn patrol]

yes

[bronze plume]

Youre unironiclaly just a giant british prison

[drifting quest]

should prob not

[bronze plume]

You have more spider speices then you do people

[pure spoke]

All spiders in my country arent deadly

[dawn patrol]

not taking it from a fellow colony

you're not better than us

[warm galleon]

At least spiders are edible human are n.. wait may be?

[bronze plume]

Yes we are

[gritty briar]

Okay I'm curious.
In your opinions, what is the strongest team right now?
Can be whatever combat metric you believe to be most valuable for future content

[pure spoke]

Chen solo is the strongest

[dawn patrol]

laev bc she just does everything

[bronze plume]

Laev

[glass birch]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-chen-qianyu-chen-fighting-gif-7371485787172775484

[drifting quest]

when you factor in average non speedrun clear time over all 5 pieces of 'endgame' content it's physical

[next helm]

What cost

[drifting quest]

once you get into a discussion of equal cost, speedrun, etc. it varies too dramatically

but low cost similar conditions would be laev hyper

[bronze plume]

Its laev cuz it slots ardelia in perfectly

[gritty briar]

laev or phys sounds like good answers to me

[bronze plume]

Im not bias

[warped sorrel]

it is actually pretty hard to guess due to HG be doing whatever they want
i will bet on team with heal , eazy to play and has AOE
which is Laevatain

[glass birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1480401469080600596/SPOILER_aint-no-way-this-came-from-the-official-account-lmao-v0-fnw3y4gz0nlg1.gif

Im not biased... butt...

[next helm]

Horny posting

[pure spoke]

[dawn patrol]

only problem with laev is that she's currently an unobtainable unit

while phys does not have this problem

[glass birch]

[bronze plume]

No shes not

[next helm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[dawn patrol]

soon

[brisk pecan]

not yet

[glass birch]

Soon tm

[pure spoke]

Imagine not having surtr

[bronze plume]

Once laev and gilb are gone

Its joeover

[warm galleon]

I just got her, again

[gritty briar]

gilb being gone sounds like it'll be so devastating to new players in the future

[pure spoke]

Bad card. Not worth leveling

[dawn patrol]

she's basically gone alr

[bronze plume]

Umbral Hopemax is better

[pure spoke]

Umbral cope

[dawn patrol]

galvanized cope better bc it's not an umbral mod

[warped sorrel]

what is art suscep pinksheep and Gilb give?

[dawn patrol]

20% at m3

[warped sorrel]

like how many %

[dawn patrol]

16% at r9

[warped sorrel]

pink or gilb

[dawn patrol]

for gilb idk ion have her

[bronze plume]

Thats ard

[next helm]

30%

[gritty briar]

gilb depends on pots too

[next helm]

at m1

[pure spoke]

It no fair

[drifting quest]

gilb is 30% at m1, no vuln

[next helm]

• any vuln yeah

[drifting quest]

+3% per vuln stack at p0

+6% per vuln stack at p2

[next helm]

look at this potential haver

[next helm]

potentials for the potential woman

[drifting quest]

(and she gets 1 more vuln stack counted so needs 3 max)

[warped sorrel]

thanks

[pure spoke]

[next helm]

42% base with P2

[bronze plume]

Whats the duration on gilbertas arts susp

[drifting quest]

5s

[glass birch]

Isn't p2 34.5% base?

[bronze plume]

Damn

[drifting quest]

36%

thats 0 vuln

[next helm]

In a rot you always apply 1 vuln

[drifting quest]

not always

[glass birch]

Oh p2 doubles each vuln's effectiveness? Thought it was 1.5x not 2x

[pure spoke]

Does the timer stop if you are in ult animation? I assume yes

[next helm]

If you take that long you gets your next combo

Wouldn't you call that always*

[glass birch]

Buffs and debuffs pause

[gritty briar]

trim and stage timers and combo cooldowns do not pause
Everything else does pause

[next helm]

Yes ults and combos have timestop

[warm galleon]

I posted the other day the what if thingy.
What if tt time stop also freeze debuff timer, like gilb ult diration is 5s + time stop duration.

[next helm]

but the main timer goes down

and some niche things go down

[glass birch]

It doesnt

[warm galleon]

Well that's the what if thingy

[next helm]

Does gilbs ult not timestop?

[warped sorrel]

how long do pinksheep give sus

[smoky quarry]

why there's 500 messeges since two hours ago, is this theorycrafting

[next helm]

long

[glass birch]

30s woth 20s cooldown

[next helm]

its like 90% uptime if you spend SP

[pure spoke]

Imagine not muting messages

[gritty briar]

yeah lots of theories were crafted

[pure spoke]

Ass crafting like yesterday

[glass birch]

Theories about aussies and somewhere else

[dawn patrol]

imagine not being on dnd

[pure spoke]

Actually im not. But i have everything muted because i only use 2 servers

[dawn patrol]

i have like 6k unread pings

[glass birch]

Oof

[gritty briar]

wow so popular

[dawn patrol]

i have everything important not muted anyway so it doesn't matter

[drifting quest]

not all rots access reactions consistently

[smoky quarry]

should have invited me

I'm pro when it comes to this

[warm galleon]

Is it about your car's extended warranty or about a talk aboit our savior Endmin?

[pure spoke]

[next helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902105645686325258/1307986031726956585/ebf4eecc7d3b846a6f3422378d7365bf.gif

[glass birch]

Which endmin? Theres like 3

[brisk pecan]

endman endwoman and?

[dawn patrol]

endperson for the nonbinary

[glass birch]

Baby endmin

[brisk pecan]

nonbinary baby

🙏

[warped sorrel]

all star 4 to 6 require same amount of resources

do they all has the same stat

i mean like if the DPS is 5star it doesnt matter and can be rival with 6

[pure spoke]

I think the 4 and 6 star weapons also require the same amount

Fkin scam

[warped sorrel]

dmg scaling wise

[brisk pecan]

6* weapons are stronger than 5* (and so on) in raw stats yes

idk about characters tho

[gritty briar]

The character stats seem approximately the same between rarities

[pure spoke]

Except if you consider solo performance. Than some lower rarity are better than 6 stars

[gritty briar]

Ember has a little bit more atk than Catcher but Catcher also has more than Snowshine so i dont think it's a rarity thing

[pure spoke]

Apparently chen has lowest intelligence stat

[gritty briar]

tangtang will take that crown from her

[pure spoke]

I hope so

Imagine they make her scale with main int. Xd

[warped sorrel]

would tangtang has huge or small dmg

i bet on small

she is a caster

[gritty briar]

i bet medium dmg

[pure spoke]

I hope she can solo trim rhodagn

[gritty briar]

perlica tier damage or slightly less

[smoky quarry]

medium-well done

[warped sorrel]

she also has good cc and art suscep
if she also deal huge dmg it would be too much

[glass birch]

Watch her personal dmg be low because she has susceptibility to cushion her own dps

[warm galleon]

I feel like fighting tangtang is more like an emotional damage taken than an actual damage taken.

[brisk pecan]

i assume she'll be at like lifeng level actually

[warped sorrel]

is 6star striker has more stat than 5star striker

[brisk pecan]

more an enabler but also decent dps

[gritty briar]

I feel like they would've just made her a supporter like gilberta if they wanted her to deal like no damage

[warped sorrel]

also
can tangtang eat her ice

like consume

[noble tapir]

That’s what I’m hoping for as well. Clear home for that in Yvonne and Last Rite. Just need her susc to be good/consistent

[dawn patrol]

i hope tt's dmg sucks bc i'm a hater

[drifting quest]

lifeng without his talent and a good weapon is

really poor damage

[timber harness]

I hope rossi isnt mid because her gameplay looks peak and i can cope her with endmin

[brisk pecan]

huh really

[drifting quest]

yeah lifeng on non mb non valiant is

[warm galleon]

I would say she's a dps at p5p5

[brisk pecan]

i assumed he had decent damage bc iana's doc says 20% damage share

(don't have him myself)

[drifting quest]

lmao

yeah that assumes xiranite + good weapon

• talent naturally

[glass birch]

Nope

[brisk pecan]

rip tangtang

pog future

😔

[honest hill]

maybe at P5

[warped sorrel]

become strker at P5?

holy

[honest hill]

lol yeah

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCxwOsmbwAA8BvD.jpg?name=orig

[honest hill]

2 sanity discount events

should've been double rewards up to the 80 one

[gritty briar]

at least just make it 3 sanity pots so i can choose to use the double sanity tickets, or choose to hold them for the weekend if i'm too busy

[honest hill]

they're designed in a way to make u spend more time in the game

sanity tickets shouldn't even exist

[drifting quest]

2 dead weeks of no monument is

funny

i assume they did it because of etchspace update

but its lmao

[honest hill]

the devs are cooking

[gritty briar]

you guys excited for etchspace salvage 4?

[honest hill]

trust

[gritty briar]

surely it'll be the best gamemode ever

[honest hill]

that mode should be deleted

[drifting quest]

i dont think it will solve the issues etchspace has

but i think the mode concept is alright

[honest hill]

put the etchspace rewards into umbral

delete etchspace

[brisk pecan]

if they did something like og ak's roguelike

[warped sorrel]

what if they do the opposite

[gritty briar]

etchspace will be the real endgame

[honest hill]

delete umbral put umbral rewards to etchspace

that be peak

[daring dove]

Getting there on my Yvonne's ATK now considering I'm not using slab.

[vapid flame]

this would be so good, but they seem allergic to learning any lessons from og ak

[warped sorrel]

they try to be difference even from thier first game

[brisk pecan]

lowlight is cooking

trust

[vapid flame]

I want to believe

[drifting quest]

IS really would not work in Endfield

seems to be very common that people want it

but it just isnt gonna port well

[brisk pecan]

didn't wuwa have a roguelike mode tho

something like that would be cool

[normal tangle]

the dreamscape? yeah i guess so

wuwa players don't really like the dreamscape though

[honest hill]

You're asking a lot

[brisk pecan]

i mean i'm not demanding it

it's just

having something to do would be nice

[normal tangle]

go collect your chests buddy

[honest hill]

that something to do is umbral monument

and

[drifting quest]

etchspace with some tweaks would be closer to what I think a good 3d arpg gacha roguelike would be good as

[honest hill]

touching grass

[daring dove]

I hope all of the "end-game" content we have rn isn't long-term end-game because it's all far too easy. Don't get me wrong, I get most people have half built accounts rn so there's a good reason for that. But currently you can clear everything with arguably the worse character in the game by themselves.

[honest hill]

I don't count it as "endgame content"

[brisk pecan]

sure but it's done in like 30 mins

[normal tangle]

which is good

i prefer things that end quickly over shit like etchspace where you do the same thing over and over again for hours

[honest hill]

what I consider endgame content is trimming bosses w teams without food buffs or solo clears w food buffs

[gritty briar]

I don't think hg has actually called umbral endgame officially

they've called it challenge content before

[honest hill]

yeah it's stupid easy

at least the wuwa one is more enjoyable

[normal tangle]

why are there so many wuwa comparisons

[honest hill]

because wuwa does a lot of things good

[normal tangle]

twin just play wuwa 🥀

[drifting quest]

if etchspace just had enemies that were several times harder but we had buffs to access in the mode

[honest hill]

I do dawg

[normal tangle]

i don't wanna play wuwa v2

[drifting quest]

it'd be more neat i think

[honest hill]

not asking for wuwa v2

just asking for good stuff

good QoLs

[drifting quest]

let me start an etchspace run with like +50% uge% on every unit and then when i go kill a boss I can get -3s combo cd on everyone or +20 sp/s

[honest hill]

it would be nice if getting 5 stars gave u the red currency

[normal tangle]

tf is uge%

[drifting quest]

ult gain efficiency

[normal tangle]

oh

[drifting quest]

er%

[honest hill]

it would be nice if expiring sanity and pulls weren't you know expiring

[normal tangle]

just make etchspace procedurally generated and it's fine

biggest burden right now is the tedium

everything is the same every time

[honest hill]

I'm not asking for anything crazy it's just small stuff

[normal tangle]

you do the same shit over and over again

[dawn patrol]

i think etchspace is kind of a little inherently flawed in its design

[brisk pecan]

it's kinda supposed to be an extraction thingy

[normal tangle]

yes, and those have procedurally generated loot at least

etchspace is the EXACT same every single run

[vapid flame]

it'd be more ok if they added variety to the combat, debuffs or buffs

[brisk pecan]

i mean it would be cool to have random loot

but like you know it's just gonna be the same tokens

[normal tangle]

the vendors are always in the same place, enemies are always the same, zero risk-reward

[brisk pecan]

there's no point to randomizing it

like they can't give us interesting stuff

[honest hill]

that + perfect dodging skipping Basic Attack Sequences and give way more SP

[drifting quest]

random loot would just make it even more tedious

[vapid flame]

yeah like shuo suggested, I wouldn't hate it if they tried to make etchspace roguelike. and rng in what buffs/debuffs you get would keep it challenging

well probably not challenging, but interesting maybe

[honest hill]

maybe I should list the things I want

[drifting quest]

randomizing the zones maybe so you have different stuff to fight each time

[honest hill]

it's a long list

[drifting quest]

but dropping zone 3 loot from zone 1 2 3 and 4 would be

so tedious

if its instead that zone 4 this run is zone 2 next run or something

[brisk pecan]

honestly just copy paste dreamscape

[vapid flame]

that's why they have a survey every week

[potent hornet]

all auralyne and chests collected finally

[brisk pecan]

but have you collected all 300 findings

[smoky quarry]

lowlight is artist, isn't he?

[drifting quest]

dreamscape has the issue that it's basically irrelevant what units you use because the buffs do all the work

which i would hate to play here too

[honest hill]

the survey is garbo the answers are there, they gave us 5 surveys and they're proud of giving us medals for manually completing simulations and made farming stuff faster

[warped sorrel]

i want the survey to ask me "which character do you want to be reconverner to EF form AK"

[potent hornet]

i have not, probably won't unless they tie some orbs to em

[vapid flame]

yeah sorry forgot sarcasm tag lol

[potent hornet]

i have 203 atm

[smoky quarry]

I'm inclined to believe that they trash out any survey that criticises free rewards lol

[honest hill]

mb lol

[brisk pecan]

there's probably a better article but here you go https://arknights.fandom.com/wiki/Hai_Mao

[honest hill]

I honestly think 1.2 will be that big patch

[dawn patrol]

do it for the love of the game

[smoky quarry]

they will learn in 1.2 trust me

[stable inlet]

Has anyone experimented with animation cancelling for basic attack sequences?
Is it universally true that if I dash/dodge after the first damage frame of a sequence, I will resume the basic attack string on the next sequence
ie. seq3 has 3 damage frames
Start seq3 -> dash before first damage frame -> resume on seq3
Start seq3 -> do damage frame 1/2 -> dash -> resume on seq4

[smoky quarry]

I just hold LMB

[vapid flame]

seems character dependent ime

[smoky quarry]

Would rather save stamina for PD

[vapid flame]

but I might just be bad at timing

[honest hill]

yeah because they will realise the players are not returning

[warm galleon]

1.2 returnees get free Rossi trust

[stable inlet]

I'm trying to avoid testing myself since I only play Laeva xd

[smoky quarry]

You know what is "Returnee" on france? It's reconvener

So everyone gets a free selector with reconv

[honest hill]

we should get another free selector fr

every patch

[smoky quarry]

boi do I love having no artifice progress for 5 days in a row

[vapid flame]

avywenna cancelling is pretty consistent for example, 2 dash 2 dash fs. snowshine's feels a little trickier to get the earliest frame, plus her fs has the two attacks

[honest hill]

me saving for 1.1 gears if they're good

[warm galleon]

We technically do, we have tcred/wep ex/op exp selector already

[brisk pecan]

wait why are you artificing now

[potent hornet]

yea stockpile for the newgear

[brisk pecan]

shouldn't you be waiting to see if any new gear will replace your current set

[smoky quarry]

You're saying it like they're gonna add lvl90 gear

[honest hill]

I have 120 wuling catalysts rn

[smoky quarry]

New gear is designed for new characters and niche situations

[honest hill]

[honest hill]

they never said that

[warm galleon]

I would say it's still lv 70 gear just new area to pick them up

[potent hornet]

??

[brisk pecan]

no???

[smoky quarry]

That's just common sense

[potent hornet]

lol no

[honest hill]

no lol

[brisk pecan]

bro 😭

[honest hill]

it's common sense for him

[warm galleon]

[outer ermine]

lonol

[warm galleon]

It's common sense for Hifumi to have p5p5 day 1 so

[outer ermine]

lies im broke

[honest hill]

Hifumi is so rich

[smoky quarry]

I can bet my battlepass that gear picks will mostly stay the same until 1.2

[potent hornet]

my luck was bad, took me to day 18

[brisk pecan]

well coming back to this, it's not gonna be lv90 gear but there's a chance some parts will replace old parts

[vapid flame]

there's a lot of characters with suboptimal or weird 4th piece choices, seems likely we'd get a few more fillers...maybe even new non-set items

[brisk pecan]

better wait and see rather than artifice something only for it to be replaced

[stable inlet]

Ty, seems like dash storage for the next seq is pretty consistent
Just unsure about intermediary damage frames after the first frame has gone off

[brisk pecan]

and honestly considering we get new redeemer pieces i'm assuming those will be fodder for current no "good match" stuff

[smoky quarry]

How about non-set chestplates and gloves?

[vapid flame]

I think it's character-dependent, like Yvonne's seems a bit different...but the meta is buff army into big nuke atm so basic attack is usually kind of a rounding error

[brisk pecan]

yes...? redeemer is non-set stuff...?

i don't understand your question here

[honest hill]

yes

I think so too

[potent hornet]

diverting xirinite production so i can have enough pylons and relays for the new area

[honest hill]

I hope outpost level goes up to 4 next patch

[potent hornet]

i'm just praying they give us some more ferrium

[lean pawn]

So they wont have banner ticket in it?

Honestly banner ticket in monthy and bp would be cool

Basic banner*

[stable inlet]

I'm doing a rotation timeline/calculator app so wanted to understand all the small interactions
Practically though, yea this is a very small rounding error

[vapid flame]

have you already seen https://end-axis.com ?

[drifting quest]

well known site here yes

doesnt account for some of the fine tuning they want + doesnt calc damage

[smoky quarry]

That's not a whale, that's a goddamn leviathan

[potent hornet]

no p5 LR

[outer ermine]

[bronze plume]

thats not a leviathan they dont even have everything max pot

[brisk pecan]

poor people trying to show off smh

[outer ermine]

show wp wall fr

[smoky quarry]

I wish I could waste money irresponsibly too

[potent hornet]

now show us Paul Allens wall

[honest hill]

is that your operator showcase

u whale

[gritty briar]

I don't play LR extensively and i can't check in game rn but i think Last Rite has a basic where if you dodge too early it resets to the beginning of that attack even if you already landed the hit

[outer ermine]

naw look at strikers, 200 trust too bros gaming

[edgy crater]

server funder lmao

[brisk pecan]

thank for funding the game good sir

🙏

[daring dove]

[vapid flame]

thanks for getting us to patch 1.2

[honest hill]

ur whale friend

he fund ur acc

[outer ermine]

yea im f2p

[potent hornet]

yea my wall is real light work compared to those lol

[edgy crater]

force to pay

[honest hill]

you cook for the whale

[honest hill]

That's you

[frozen tide]

It is not universal

The available timings to skip with cancels differ ever string

[stable inlet]

This is tragic

[lean pawn]

Only one more to open all the goody

[daring dove]

Loses internet for the next 3 days misses them all.

[lean pawn]

evil ember I wish all your 50 50 will be just ember

[daring dove]

I want more Ember so I'm good with that.

[lean pawn]

But that means you wont get any more ember at p5 and basically uselss

[smoky quarry]

endpoint qouta to buy her signature

[chilly bolt]

Dang hifumi new pfp

[smoky quarry]

endpoint quota is actually more useful than legendary dupes tbh

[chilly bolt]

I actually think that hg intentionally make other bundles look so bad so people are forced to buy monthly and bp

[edgy crater]

probably yes

[smoky quarry]

These are two different groups with different solvency

[lean pawn]

The monthy still sucks

[smoky quarry]

Would make no sense

[outer ermine]

the packs r shit

[edgy crater]

hifu p2p from ba?

[chilly bolt]

Me when i see 3400% value

[outer ermine]

its bussan

[smoky quarry]

are you living in a bussy?

[lean pawn]

Limbusy

[daring dove]

There was a few decentish ones at the start but they didn't refresh hopefully 1.1 brings some decent ones again.

[smoky quarry]

they are too expansive and offer too little

this isn't worthwhile for dolphin

monthly and weekly resource pack is straight up bs

[outer ermine]

this is so sadge btw

[neat snow]

whale

[daring dove]

I mean the Endmin weapon for $0.99 was decent, an I think there was a decently discounted arsenal pack as well. Maybe we'll get something like that again.

[potent hornet]

yea the first arsenal pack was good

[smoky quarry]

1. one time deal
2. it wasn't

[potent hornet]

$21 after tax for the 10 pull is bs

[smoky quarry]

what was the arsenal pack, 1 pull for 15 dollars? I can buy a pack of 12 energy drinks on these money

Gotta set priorities straight

[chilly bolt]

It's 1 buck for 12 geometry, grand vision is a bonus

[bronze plume]

"bonus"

[smoky quarry]

I am pretty sure that weapon you can't get normally is more important

[gritty briar]

Pretty much all of the packs aside from $1 endmin sword, monthly pass and battle pass were worse than the first time origeo purchase, at least in my currency

[smoky quarry]

it's not pullable and appears in rotation like once in a quadrum

[potent hornet]

they could still make decent money at $1 a pull (single pull not a 10 pull)

[smoky quarry]

All gachas copy price policies

[outer ermine]

u can buy gv w purple

[smoky quarry]

literally all gachas either 2/pull or have altered pull economy

like 200 for a guarantee

(looking at uma musume)

[potent hornet]

they might actually make more due to lowering the ceiling and getting easier first time customers

[daring dove]

I think what would be quite nice is if the doable bonus on the two biggest geometry packs reset every version update. Rather than once every year like Genshin. Would help dophins a lot.

[gritty briar]

well, they already kinda target those with monthly pass and battle pass

[smoky quarry]

I got 500 oroberyls from battlepass crates

[gritty briar]

if anything it makes the monthly seem better in comparison when they intentionally make everything else dogshit

[smoky quarry]

most useful thing I got from bp actually is 180 sanity tickets

[potent hornet]

monly pass getting just over enough to get a 10pull

[chilly bolt]

If you ask 1 million people to give 1 dollar each, you become a millionaire, who'd have thought

[potent hornet]

feels a little bad lol

[gritty briar]

bp gives an insane amount of materials that it tempts a lot of low spenders

i say this cause i bought it lol

[daring dove]

Not in the UK sadly dollar isn't worth enough.

[gritty briar]

it is kinda sad but everything else is so much worse

[edgy crater]

become japanese/turkish

[smoky quarry]

monthly pass is basically daily login rewards btw

200 orob and 1 injector

[smoky quarry]

There's no regional prices

[chilly bolt]

i played ak for 5 years and all i bought was literally 1 monthly and the purestream $1 pack, now in just over 1 month i just spent $20 on this shit game

[edgy crater]

theres currency discrepency

[gritty briar]

you can vpn to different regions to save a bit of money yeah

[smoky quarry]

you are going to lose more on conversions

they are same in dollar equivalent

[edgy crater]

different currency

[gritty briar]

In Canada there's also differences in sales tax depending on which province you input for your postal code

[edgy crater]

mine cheaper on yen

[chilly bolt]

Vietnam dong is cheap enough i dont really need to change vpn

[daring dove]

You'd never input the wrong one would you.

[chilly bolt]

Blessed to be born in vn

[outer ermine]

rmb

[edgy crater]

if only theres vn vpn

Singapore expensive af

[dusk isle]

Wait lemme see how good turkish prices actually are

[edgy crater]

for europe, turkish should be cheaper

for asia, yen cheapest so far

the discrepency enough to buy GV pack

[warm galleon]

Guess what arrived today?

[dusk isle]

68.13 dollars / 58.62 euros for the most expensive origeo pack

Idk how much it costs originally tho

[outer ermine]

wut

[warm galleon]

My tablet

[outer ermine]

oh yeaa holy

how is it

[edgy crater]

61 euro on me

[warm galleon]

Legion tablet can run at 1600p
Legion go is 1600 but can only support 800p

Still installing games

[dusk isle]

Is it both 70 for dollar and euro do you know ?

[edgy crater]

71 usd for me lmao

[outer ermine]

fraud behavior

[warm galleon]

My 4 yr old phone can finally rest, so is my 13yr old pc

Will still use pc for factory tho

As long as i don't get memory leak

[outer ermine]

can finally game for real

[warm galleon]

Yah, problem with pc too is I'm alt+tab away from distraction and next thing I know I have 0 progress

[outer ermine]

good thing the memory leak reminds u to alttab back in game

[warm galleon]

My memory leak is bad like 10 seconds = 25gb ram

I have no time to do anything but watch the ram usage percentage

[potent hornet]

nvidia?

[warm galleon]

Gpu yes, usually random like I can reset the game again and again til it stop and sometimes it's stable at 13gb instead of the usual 3gb.

[potent hornet]

i have it as well, i just run on dx11. runs fine when i do

on dx12 i get maybe an hour on a fresh start of the game

[warm galleon]

That did not work on mine plus vulkan don't heat up my gpu either

[potent hornet]

rolled back your driver to pre 595?

[warm galleon]

I tried 3 diff driver ver. All same issues now I have no drivers like I uninstalled all nvidia crap out of my pc.

Works just fine on like 8 games except this game

[turbid elm]

Any bis for the 1.0 bp weapons not being the rate ups op? Can only be selected 2 out of 3

[last acorn]

Got a pic of the options?

[bronze plume]

honestly all the bps weapons atm are rather meh at best

hell some of them have better options outside of them for the limited characters in the first place

[gritty briar]

i'm still holding on to the crate cause i just don't need any of them for anything

[turbid elm]

Yeah it seems hold is the best, bp of 1.1 its 2 crates so no need to on those but yeah 1.0 ones

[proud vector]

Is it maint time

Or am I early

[turbid elm]

No Ik its 2 crates cause information on bp dark currents
Maintenance is not yet

[bold rose]

is this enough ult gain for gilb

[summer flicker]

gg frick this boss

[neat snow]

Good job

[honest hill]

I can't tell but did u use ginseng plus how long did it take

[summer flicker]

prolly 180s with gingsen

or 200s

i didnt count

oh wait

[smoky quarry]

All hypostasis bosses combined ✌🏻

[summer flicker]

my gingseng just half

so like 150s

kekw

[honest hill]

did u have it full

[summer flicker]

yes

full and then go in, 150s to clear this boss

[honest hill]

That's pretty good

[smoky quarry]

I have a question

[honest hill]

P0P0 Yvonne?

[smoky quarry]

how did you ulted him

[summer flicker]

p0 artzy p0 yvonne

[smoky quarry]

if he keeps running away

[summer flicker]

ult in phase 2

phase 3 not even ult

he just dies

[honest hill]

P0 Yvonne?

[summer flicker]

ye

im not a whel

[honest hill]

I thought u a whel

[summer flicker]

whale in saving

[honest hill]

ye u a whel

big whel

[summer flicker]

nah im just lucky and save till now

[warped sorrel]

laevatainless?

[summer flicker]

yes

every char except lae

[honest hill]

I wonder how fast LR can clear w P2 dorito skip

[summer flicker]

imean, yvonne pot is not really worth it

[honest hill]

I mean at P0P0

but u a whel

so maybe we should compare P5P5s

[summer flicker]

would prefer to lose to some yvonne pot in tangtang banner

[honest hill]

I still think LR is stronger at P0P0

[summer flicker]

isnt p0p0 lr lose like 30% dmg

and p0p0 yvonne lose like 15~10% dmg

[honest hill]

when I mean P0P0 I mean w sigs

[summer flicker]

oh

[honest hill]

[summer flicker]

i dont know

i dont do calcs

[honest hill]

idk how fast Yvonne can kill Rhodagn w Ginseng

but LR is like 21s or less

LR also wins against Yvonne because P2 dorito skip

marble idk

[dusk isle]

There is a 15s p0p0 rhod kill afaik but it has gear swapping

[honest hill]

ye ik I don't count that

i find that illegal

[dusk isle]

[honest hill]

so the 21s is the one is fastest

[dusk isle]

Im gonna try to hit 15s with p3p0

[honest hill]

I think Yvonne is similar

[dusk isle]

Saw a swordmancer ardelia rotation with 3x cryo cs

[honest hill]

swordmancer arde

wtf lol

what is that going to do for her

[dusk isle]

You need the stagger

For the phase 2 skip

Since only half bar stagger allows for cutscene to delay

[honest hill]

hm

if u do go for stagger u run aethertech right?

[dusk isle]

Since 3x cryo you are missing stagger from one fs

[dusk isle]

No half bar stagger only causes flinch

[honest hill]

ohh that what u meant

[dusk isle]

Ye

It used 2 ardelia bs in rotation one before corro one after

[honest hill]

can't ur cs just stagger it

then u ult

[dusk isle]

Not enough if you dont do swordmancer ard

[honest hill]

you'll have to show me this

ig it makes sense because 3x cryo instead of 4

so one less fs

so swordmacer arde will make up for it

imma guess u run gilberta as well on xira set

[dusk isle]

Lmao it is actually the 15s "illegal" one that uses it

Sent you the link

Since ard gear is stays the same ill be able to do it without the xaihi gear change

[bold rose]

so what does the Yvonne team and rotation looks like with Tangtang

[bronze plume]

we dont really know until we actually get hands on tangtang and try her out and shii

[bold rose]

yh
but I think she replaces the Perlica slot no?
Yvonne Xaihi Tangtang Gilb?

[summer flicker]

something like this

[vapid flame]

the arts susceptibility overlaps with gilberta, and you probably want perlica for elec still

but maybe corrosion is better? 🤷

[bold rose]

idt you proc corrosion with Gilb in Yvonne team anyway

[summer flicker]

yes

[bold rose]

so yeah you got a point maybe Gilb is the one ousted and Perlica kept for Stanza + Elec

[honest hill]

idk what u even proc in that team w gilb solidification prob

[summer flicker]

dont proc any thing

that's -2 stack

kekw

[honest hill]

Bruh

[bold rose]

yes
you always need solidification for Yvonne

[honest hill]

so gilb is whatever

she is replaceable af

[dusk isle]

The fuckin kek as an img 🥀

[honest hill]

tt will take her place then

[summer flicker]

nitroless moment

[bold rose]

probably using Vencord or BD

[honest hill]

solidification is from electric + cryo right

[summer flicker]

haivailozbantoioi

[dusk isle]

I feel you brother

[bold rose]

anything + cryo on top = solidification

[honest hill]

How u nitroless when ur an endfield whale

[bold rose]

this game system relies on the second proc

[summer flicker]

whale in game is better than paying nitro

[honest hill]

I see

[dusk isle]

Nitro for 1 year is paid bp + monthly pass in turkish currency

[summer flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1479851358424399995/image0.gif

just never do anything like corrosion or solidfication(without yvonne bs) in yvonne team

[dusk isle]

Yvonne gets ult energy for each stack she consumes right

[summer flicker]

yes

[dusk isle]

Makes sense, thanks

[normal tangle]

she replaces gilb unless you want a really awkward and annoying rotation like that guy posted

[hollow wyvern]

Or you get ER somewhere + don't dive TT

[normal tangle]

that guy's rotation instaplunges tangtang ult so it does nothing except basically be a worse gilb ult

don't follow it, it sucks

[summer flicker]

its for the cyro infliction and susc

[normal tangle]

translation: worse gilb ult

ignores the literal strongest part of ult

[summer flicker]

i mean even if you replace gilb

i would still use tangtang ult b4 yvonne ult

cyro stack stonk

[normal tangle]

that's because you're bad at theorycrafting i think

[summer flicker]

nah maxxing tangtang buff

and stack infliction

[smoky quarry]

why umbral monument themes are lowkey fire?

[bronze plume]

one thing HG is good at

music

[smoky quarry]

"indie music company made their own gacha game"

history repeats itself

[pure spoke]

tangtang when

[calm field]

in 20 minutes

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-yes-gif-9261220417428024166

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[harsh slate]

Gotta love the Chief and her Goofy side

[pure spoke]

supreme chief

[harsh slate]

Supreme chief

[smoky quarry]

Hard to believe that she is actual adult

[pure spoke]

at least they ddint make her a loli

[tranquil burrow]

.tangtang2

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1473055467092709655/117134493cfa4506.png?ex=6994d14f&is=69937fcf&hm=1e6a9ff7db5526ea0e479813be9b10d9312711146541ae361088402fdd1131b1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1920&height=1080

[smoky quarry]

Give me cautus
Give me liberi
Give me feline

Or I retire

[shut cobalt]

since rossi is most likely not a replacement for any of the physical chars, and i'm not pulling tangtang (since i dont have lastrite nor yvonne)
should i build the physical team? (ive finished the laev team except for m3 on akekuri which doesnt seem too much worth atm) physical seems fun so i'd like to build it but if its not worth it i'll refrain

[bronze plume]

i mean if you think youll find it fun no reason not to

[shut cobalt]

leav is fun too, hence why im asking if its worth it

[bronze plume]

not like it cant clear content and its arguably overall the best team atm for everything

[bronze plume]

i mean only reason to build more then 1 team atm is to not keep yoself stuck with 1 thing all the time

[shut cobalt]

altho i will run da pan instead of endmin since i don't have her sig
is that a problem

[smoky quarry]

sig costs 1 dollar

[bronze plume]

da pan is overall slightly better in phys anyway

very slightly but still

[shut cobalt]

i'm f2p
not gonna spend a single dollar
which is 5x the price on my country anyways

[smoky quarry]

weird flex but ok

[bronze plume]

theres no actual reason to make more then 1 team atm tho

[smoky quarry]

Versatility I'd say

[bronze plume]

nothing is no big resistant to x element you dont need x mechanic

[shut cobalt]

i c, but like since i dont have anything to spend on for the next patch shouldnt i just go for it?

[bronze plume]

versatility on what

[bronze plume]

agreed

my reason is it would get boring af to use the same thing all the time

[shut cobalt]

unless they give us enough standard tickets for me to get the pity on the banner AND get last rite from that, then i'd have something to spend it on ig
but so, number wise its worth it, right?

[bronze plume]

i mean yeah

you get enuf stuff to make more teams eventually

no reason not to

[shut cobalt]

i c, but i assume i should wait a bit on the update tho? cuz the new gear may have new stats and it could replace these
i dont see why they would just make a reskin with nothing else new

[bronze plume]

accurate

id wait on building stuff

then give it like 3 days and then ask the tcs info on if anything actually gets replaced

[shut cobalt]

how much time after the patch should i wait for the end result on the theorycrafting btw?

[bronze plume]

or use yo own brain to figure it out

[shut cobalt]

oh, mb was focused on reading 🤦‍♂️

[bronze plume]

3 days for the barebones

probably longer then that for like

[shut cobalt]

wait, so more for the end result?

[bronze plume]

autistic nerd reasoning

id say most tcs will be more focused on tangtang teams first

[shut cobalt]

how much time would u say everything numbercrunching wise will be finished for the new char gear + the old ones?

cuz gears changed multiple times after release

[bronze plume]

it changed alot cuz physical i

is physipain

considering its physical id say like a week or 2

really just depends on how crackhead the tcs we have here want to be

[shut cobalt]

but tbh from the way they said it only stats will change not sets so maybe it wont take so long?

[bronze plume]

yeah most likely just new stats

[shut cobalt]

i dont think they added new sets?

did they say anything about that?

[bronze plume]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i wouldnt be too surprised if theres a set that is fully just for rossi phys/heat combo tho

cuz if there isnt

shes even more in a ditch

[shut cobalt]

i c i c
alr, thanks thats all

[glass birch]

Theres no new sets yeah. Just new pieces with different stats to current gear

They said they were comparable to current gold gear so

Not upgrades but sidegrades

[twilit quail]

at best many chars will get new options

at worst it's for new chars only and no one else changes

most likely is just that some chars with shit options get 1 or 2 new pieces to use

new chars get form-fitting stuff

and nothing changes for the others

[edgy crater]

hope we get agi gunner set

[dense plank]

new sets are most definitely going to be tailor made for the banner chars

[edgy crater]

new bp weap

[summer flicker]

bruh its so bd

bad

😭

[edgy crater]

is dat for fluorite lol

the gun lmao

[summer flicker]

maybe the bp is for

tagntang dps

and the sig is for support

COPIUM

[edgy crater]

maybe, but sword one can be used on endmin/chen too

[summer flicker]

i think i have enuf mats for tangtang

[dense plank]

dps tangtang weap

[dry kindle]

Crit rate boost sword

At least last bp weps are in

[summer flicker]

so maybe tmr is sig reveal

[dry kindle]

Can't wait to still not use a box

[summer flicker]

COPIUM

[edgy crater]

endmin ulti crit build

[summer flicker]

mi security build

[warped sorrel]

Imagine if Rossi is like

Yv

[edgy crater]

she is

[warped sorrel]

She definitely playing with crit holy

[edgy crater]

n quite shafted on banner schedule

[warped sorrel]

She is more interesting now

like 2% more

[compact bridge]

Do we have tangtang and rossi sig?

[edgy crater]

nope

[warped sorrel]

Bp laeva might look better on rossi tho

aesthetics wise

[dawn patrol]

wait bp wep kinda not bad for rossi

i'm getting sig anyway but bp wep looks interesting

[edgy crater]

its looks like bootleg GV

aesthetic wise

[dawn patrol]

i think it looks nice

kinda plain but it adds to the charm

[edgy crater]

it does

anyway, agi crit twilight, basically wuling?

[dawn patrol]

twilight?

oh bp wep

yeah wuling prob

actually origin lodespring should work too

[edgy crater]

agi cryo suppression like science lark/plateu?

[buoyant yoke]

You need ~450k t-cred, 461 protoprism, 178 protohedrons , 33 protodisk, 24 protosets, 75 gold xp(1-60) , 47 gold xp (60-90) just to 1-80 her and level all her skills to 9

[odd wren]

Oh hoh

[summer flicker]

the proto ima farm when i get her

[dawn patrol]

i only have like 300 protohedrons i gotta farm to m12 rossi

[edgy crater]

late info

[odd wren]

Ohh haha

[summer flicker]

🐌

[odd wren]

Anyway i just saw it

[summer flicker]

ok where is tangtang sig stat

give me now

[odd wren]

I wonder if that sword would be good for

Dapan

[dawn patrol]

no

[odd wren]

[dawn patrol]

also it's not a gs

[summer flicker]

maybe tangtang is a dps all along

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HCPf4_bbEAEBVSf.mp4

[odd wren]

Ah fk

[dawn patrol]

would be decent on chen though actually

[summer flicker]

dps that have buff 😭

[dawn patrol]

if you think about it

[edgy crater]

the sword? yeah

[odd wren]

But rapid should be better?

Hmm i wonder

[dawn patrol]

yeah but bp weps can get pots easily

[odd wren]

Yeah ht im still saving them for something better in the future xd

[dawn patrol]

so i'm thinking maybe new wep with pot beats out both p5 sundering and p0 ascent

[odd wren]

[dawn patrol]

yeah same but it's interesting to think about

[odd wren]

My rapid missing 2

[buoyant yoke]

Why do they keep adding nature dmg to the pistols text and make the 2nd stats cryo xD its not like flourite can utilize it that way

[dawn patrol]

more variety ig

[odd wren]

Maybe tangtang dps is a reality

[dawn patrol]

futureproofing so to speak

[summer flicker]

maybe there will be a nature dps that deal cyro dmg

[unreal light]

Tangtang wife

[edgy crater]

btw, remind me again but tang2 cs trigger on any cryo infliction isn't?

[unreal light]

Should deal damage without any yvonnas

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1479851358424399995/image0.gif

[summer flicker]

yes, or art burst

[dawn patrol]

that's what we think

[plucky warren]

they said on cryo infliction not hers specific

and I don't think any character cs is currently locked to their own activation

[summer flicker]

yes any infliction ,if her only its so bad

[edgy crater]

w8 really?

[summer flicker]

😭

how you think its lock to her only bruh

[edgy crater]

which one bruh

cause with bp weap, she can cs -> bs on rot for xtra damage

[summer flicker]

that's her gameplay

you 2 cs -> bs/ult

kekw

for dmg

[edgy crater]

[summer flicker]

how you gonna play her

[warped sorrel]

I guess her support utilities will be small

[summer flicker]

that's likethe only logical way to play her

[warped sorrel]

Like art susceptibility

[summer flicker]

maygipain

[edgy crater]

i mean as support too

[summer flicker]

the same

dmg or support

the rot is same

bruh

its a bit diff but still 2 cs -> skill/ult

[warped sorrel]

Noway they making good at dmg and support at the same time

[edgy crater]

oh w8 yeah, im drunk

[feral fractal]

what if you build ult recharge tang tang and just stop the boss from fighting completely

[dawn patrol]

ult charge could potentially be the play if she's an ult bot

[warped sorrel]

maybe she need 1000ult energy

[summer flicker]

just use her ult for dmg

[dawn patrol]

only 2 days until rossi info

[hollow wyvern]

What else you gonna use on her

Just go full ER xiranite

[dawn patrol]

someone else might be running xira alr

[hollow wyvern]

She doesn't even trigger xiranite I think

[dawn patrol]

she applies susc

[hollow wyvern]

Just for ER

Oh right

Hmm

[dawn patrol]

if you're just gonna run er just run the 209% seal setup

[hollow wyvern]

Is xira one of the sets getting new pieces

Xira gonna tank her dmg

Int useless stat

[dawn patrol]

she might be agi/int for all we know

[hollow wyvern]

No shot

[dawn patrol]

although i'm thinking rossi will be agi/int

so getting 2 in one patch would be weirdge

[hollow wyvern]

oh xira on will is viable

forgot that there's a will focus xira kit

and a glove with will secondary

[warped sorrel]

Really wanna see rossi number

[hollow wyvern]

wait

[warped sorrel]

Tangtang will work just fine even if she did 0dmg

[hollow wyvern]

fluorite cryo app didn't refresh tangtang self sig buff

bottom right icon shows up on tt skill cast

oh wait it's prob applying cryo on skill

so fluorite combo didn't count

[edgy crater]

double atk buff?

[hollow wyvern]

hmm

then xaihi won't refresh it either

only LR or estella I think

lemme see if they do LR skill

[edgy crater]

they do i think, theres sp refund on dev video

[hollow wyvern]

hmm

the first ice up icon, with the single big arrow

that's cryo amp (xaihi ult)

is tt sig cryo dmg gain?

2 smol arrow up

[edgy crater]

no idea

[hollow wyvern]

hmm

wtf applied the cryo on boss when the break happened

no combo used, LR was mid ult

I didn't see a dive either

[edgy crater]

tang2 ulti?

[hollow wyvern]

hard to see, but I think tt just let the ult expire

https://youtu.be/eKTskrTBZxU?t=1337

what triggered that first cryo app?

[normal tangle]

LR skill

[hollow wyvern]

oh I see it now

yeah I see the X

[main nova]

we got that *4 nature that deal both cryo and nature. who her name again?

[hollow wyvern]

it didn't trigger tt sig tho

does LR even count as applying cryo app on skill

[compact bridge]

Floright

[edgy crater]

on fs only

[hollow wyvern]

ah ok