theorycrafting

[green cipher]

And she needs combustion for extra ult dmg

[summer flicker]

or alesh killer

[cinder oxide]

Hopefully Soup can use wedge

[gritty olive]

?

[summer flicker]

hoping her to be alesh killer

[cinder oxide]

Cos I can’t afford her wp

[summer flicker]

[frozen tide]

If so then you can fit in 2 rite bs procs for tide

[edgy crater]

hmm, do we need ake for so battery for it? or stick with ardel?

[real mist]

real

[summer flicker]

i want my only female comfy team not perlica try hard 1 rot

[edgy crater]

technically yeah but u waste 1 cryo stack as it become 5/4

[real mist]

does that mean she's a perlica sidegrade instead

[noble tapir]

I will not play Yvonne for two weeks in hopes of her being the alesh killer

[outer ermine]

ake is a bit fake for me rn so not sure

[proud vector]

Physical Heat critical hybrid

Battle skill lifts. If already vuln it does a followup that applies a long lasting debuff that increases phys and heat damage taken

Combo skill trigger when target has vuln and infliction simultaneously. Does damage, then has a QTE followup. Followup eats infliction to lift. If QTE timed well, additional vuln.

Ult is heat damage multi hit goes brrr. Final hit inflicts heat infliction

Talent 2 - if she crits a marked target, additional damage and heals herself. If enemy is combusted, do this but more

[unreal light]

Is there a cooldown for arts burst?
I believe there’s not, but gotta double check

[fading fog]

alesh is really valuable as long as you hit the fish tho, especially for yvonne the atk% seems more valuable than the extra bit of art susc (not to mention SP economy)

[frozen tide]

Tang tang also has sp return it seems and it isn't a waste if it results in more dmg

[edgy crater]

or w8, can u timing so lr bs happened after cs?

[indigo pine]

nope

[potent hornet]

i'm so glad i was correct about TangTang

[green cipher]

Rossi wanting combust really planting her to be heat ds

[unreal light]

Shling would you please record your phys rotation

[potent hornet]

i just had a feeling she would be a cryo inflictor

[edgy crater]

hmm, possible alesh on lr lmao

[summer flicker]

ye, since she return sp, only use 1 battle skill ( replace 1 xaihi battle skill in yvonne team) + ult, each for 1 cyro infliction so better than alesh about the infliction alr
about buff: unsure, she supposed to have art sus, but weapon is unknown, and talent 2 is unknown

[frozen tide]

Not been on the game tbh ill do it when i feel like it

Out of content to do

[gritty olive]

Just follow guoba guides

[outer ermine]

fuck this cooks something for me

[edgy crater]

yeah, but still no idea how much

[drifting berry]

Wouldn't Tangtang Battle skill Arts susceptability conflict with Gilberta's ult?

[digital nova]

also which of the 2 teams is better?

1. Pog dapan chen ardelia
2. Last rite perlica xaihi ardelia

[summer flicker]

those stacks

not conflict

[terse valley]

wait they do?

[edgy crater]

well if u can do it, technically surge tide lr not dead n u literally get +1 cryp stack for 2nd rot

[proud vector]

2 is a speedkill team. Theoretically better for said speed kills

[paper sand]

is gilberta still gonna be used in yvonne-tangtang teams?

[summer flicker]

iirc maygi test it @indigo pine , art sus stack right

[noble tapir]

Yes

[frozen tide]

Her ult itself doesn't insta cryo it's when it ends so you can delay tang tang second cryo application to after cs

[indigo pine]

yes

[terse valley]

oh wait ardelia and gilberta arts susceptibility stacks?

[drifting berry]

Then I got miss informed, I though the reason why Ardelia and Gilberta didn't work together is because susceptibility didn't stack.

[summer flicker]

ether you dont pull gilb and just tangtang pure cyro, or yvonne gilb tagtang xaihi

[gritty olive]

Theyre additive with each other

[terse valley]

gah damn

[gritty olive]

[frozen tide]

So lr bs tang cs lr bs xai cs tang ult(not cashout) for one 4 stack tang ult cashout lr bs lr bs xai cs for one 4 stack

[summer flicker]

ye you prolly got misinform

[honest sable]

Do we have some thoughts on Rossi as who to pair with her?

[summer flicker]

it happens usually in this channel kekw

[edgy crater]

so do 4 cryo rot then for 2nd rot u do 3rot + tang2?

[summer flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461633024054530059/1461688493334986898/1768546759.gif

how yvoone looking when next banner is cyro sp for her

[jagged tiger]

Does tangtang inflict alot of cryo

[edgy crater]

shit really need to test this

[drifting berry]

But yeah, it seems that they want you to at least use Tangtang skill once either every rotation or every other rotation.

[terse valley]

it's tangtang first half and rossi second half right?

[summer flicker]

bs: 1 cyro, ult 1 cyro

[paper sand]

do we know if we have to plunge for tangs ult to proc cryo?

[jagged tiger]

Tangtang is getting into my Last Nut team

[proud vector]

If you look at it that way that’s Alesh levels of cyro if no bs

[edgy crater]

possible n giving her double nuts

[jagged tiger]

Godammit just raised Perlica to replace her in fluorite position

[paper sand]

oh okay, so yes

[summer flicker]

that's 2x alesh alr, and she has art sus

[daring dove]

To be fair, if Tangtang isn't a massive disappointment (which off what we've already seem is extremely unlikely). It's likely in version 1.1 Ice team is the best in the game. It's already not far behind heat time & for speed-runs argubly already better.

[indigo pine]

more importantly, shes cute and alesh is a dude, huge W replacement

[summer flicker]

it just now depend if her waepon and talent 2 buff anything

[proud vector]

*if no BS

[jagged tiger]

Also does that mean Alesh is strong now?

[green cipher]

Hmmm skipping tangtang and rossi cause I have no gilberta

[summer flicker]

oh i didnt see that xdd

[outer ermine]

if u want to early, else u still get when it pops

[jagged tiger]

Since he has cryo inflictor

[edgy crater]

possible team for lr

lr xaihi tang2 n flex (?)

[summer flicker]

surely her waepon gonna buff right

[indigo pine]

alesh is just a decent 4th slot just for being an sp-positive support, though buffs are inconsistent at best

[summer flicker]

😭

[proud vector]

It’ll be so funny if Flourite steals TangTang’s gun I’m not gonna lie and does better than her

[indigo pine]

i like perlica more

[potent hornet]

just lose the 50/50 and pull gilberta on TangTangs banner

[summer flicker]

[indigo pine]

but tangtang will also work fine in 4th slot

[summer flicker]

no because tangtang has art sus

florite has 0 buff

[green cipher]

I should just pull them in one mukti tgthr tbh

[summer flicker]

and potentially more in her talent 2

[green cipher]

0 premium lae support

[summer flicker]

we only know 1 talent for now

[proud vector]

That’s why it’s funnnny

[green cipher]

Lae so strong they dont want to give her premium support smh

[daring dove]

I wonder if Tangtang will allow for some crazy comp like LR / Yvonne/ Tangtang / Xaihi to work well together. That or if we'll just be dropping either Yvonne or LR for Ardelia / Gilberta.

[summer flicker]

my yvonne suddenly got stronger in 1.1

its so funny

[gritty olive]

Premium lae support is going to be some kazuha shit

[edgy crater]

how tang2 proc art sus again? whirlpool thing?

[summer flicker]

yes

[gritty olive]

Clumping, res shred, consistent heat

[proud vector]

2+ whirls

[gritty olive]

[green cipher]

Gonna get ake upgrade that buff motion speed

[proud vector]

Ult and bs both do it

[summer flicker]

and ul tseems to proc this too

[summer flower]

Does even laev needs clumping?

[green cipher]

Yes

[summer flower]

When ultimate covers so much area?

[green cipher]

Did I stutter

[drifting berry]

I mean the more I look at it Tangtang doesn't seem "that" good for Yvonne.

Ult only deals cryo infliction either once it finishes or once you finish it by jump attack and she still needs to consume SP to inflict cryo with BS.

Still will probably be bis for her but the upgrade over Alesh doesn't feel that big.

Maybe you could trigger corrosion more easily with Gilberta thanks to Tangtang's ult?

[summer flower]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[green cipher]

Aspd buffer that apply consistent heat and ult energy when

[fierce nest]

are we gonna have more 4-5 stars? didnt see it in the devl og

[ashen scroll]

Laeva is literaly surtr + schwing scwing , what do you expect to happen

[proud vector]

No mention

[edgy crater]

maybe or u can do shenanigans with ange bs

[jagged tiger]

How will TangTang fare with Wedge though

[green cipher]

Hoping a new gun for wulf

[summer flicker]

no ult does not need to consume sp, her battle skill need to and its has some sp return in it so its a bit cheaper to do that

[jagged tiger]

Already got it and since i'? Not going for Yvonne

[edgy crater]

nah, she clearly using obj

[proud vector]

Her personal damage is unknown

[drifting berry]

No idea since we don't have multiplier

[gritty olive]

When you cant swing to the back when you skill yeah

[daring dove]

I mean it's far to early to tell, the buffs she gives the team with her signature & her kit could make her night & day better.

[gritty olive]

Even with her range she needs proper positioning

[drifting berry]

forgot to mention BS

[green cipher]

Just need aspd buffing to abuse her ult more

[summer flower]

Ahh

Okay that's the issue that needs that

[summer flicker]

ye, unknown talent 2 and sig buff

😭 surely a 5 star like alesh not beating her right

kekw

[drifting berry]

Yeah, just hoping for bp weapon to be decent/good, also I see her giving 15% or more arts suceptability, maybe increasing with number of whirlpool stacks

[outer ermine]

talent 2 is the riot bringer shit

[chilly bolt]

2 new bp weapons right

[edgy crater]

who? tang2?

[outer ermine]

yea

show sig

[edgy crater]

what its effect again?

[jagged tiger]

Sig P320?

[proud vector]

I’m counting Tangtang combo skill at ~12s CD.

Could be possible to do 2 per LR cycle

That’s good, very good

[summer flicker]

what about the other talent

maygiinspect

[daring dove]

I'm counting on it, I didn't even bother to build him.

[green cipher]

Them pots could be nice too

[summer flicker]

i think i only see 1 talent in the stream or maybe im missing sth

[outer ermine]

dive atk to end, whirlpool to sprout; same effect as bs

i should just get the sc

[summer flicker]

😭

im so broke on exp

[edgy crater]

hifu, share it to me

[outer ermine]

2nd

[warm ferry]

tangtang bs returns 25 sp for 1 whirlpool consumed from video

[outer ermine]

1st talent is the slow and mv speed

[summer flicker]

hmm what the first one 😭

ohh

[outer ermine]

movement speed wtf

[summer flicker]

oh fuck, that suck 👢

[green cipher]

Seems like rossi in the ditch rn

[summer flicker]

😭

[daring dove]

What do you think's better for Xaihi btw P5 Detonation unit or P5 Chiv?

[jagged tiger]

No she's with me

[summer flicker]

ye they didnt include the infographic

[jagged tiger]

😭

[summer flicker]

so i miss the thing

bruh

[green cipher]

You say that but positioning matters

[proud vector]

Wait increased movement speed?

[summer flicker]

slow enemies

😭

[proud vector]

YOO overworld utility!

[proud vector]

[summer flicker]

and increase mv%

hmm

[outer ermine]

not when boss cant even move smh

[green cipher]

Soooo?

What then if boss can move

[proud vector]

Tangtang is optimal dog fillet hunter LOLOLOLOL HOLY SHIT

[green cipher]

The boss they showed us too want us to chase xiranite balls

[proud vector]

The LORE

[summer flicker]

[oblique frost]

Isn’t she more about cc

[drifting berry]

Yeah ult utility is goated for Yvonne

[summer flicker]

good cc mean my yvonne combo skill can finally hit

kekw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461633024054530059/1461688493334986898/1768546759.gif

[proud vector]

Honestly I never expected Tangtang to have a domain expansion

But it’s funny af

[peak void]

rossi looks kinda crazy

[outer ermine]

i like chiv buff uptime ask schling abt the calcs but its less than 1% diff w/o food buffs

[peak void]

wulfgards 1 billion heat infliction is now phys vuln

[proud vector]

She doesn’t fit well anywhere so her numbers need to be good tbh

[fleet saddle]

Is there even a point of pulling for yvonne, tangtang without gilberta?

[outer ermine]

thats a skill issue they should be dead in one rot

[proud vector]

Wulf needs an infliction to begin inflicting, that’s the fucky wucky

[peak void]

i mean just use his skill 🤷

[green cipher]

[summer flicker]

tangtang could be sides for gilb and/or replace the 4th slot if you have gilb

[proud vector]

Gross!

[peak void]

are we gonna pretend that we dont press chen skill too

[green cipher]

True kill multi phased boss in 1 rot

[proud vector]

Fair lol

[peak void]

its bsaically the same

[summer flicker]

also tangtang first righ

[outer ermine]

bro doesnt know the lr secret

[summer flicker]

i want to try my new yvonne team soon xdd

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461633024054530059/1461688493334986898/1768546759.gif

[green cipher]

?

I know lr can just skip phase with her nuke

[chilly bolt]

Yes lol it has been since release

[daring dove]

Yeah I think I'll keep with Detonation unit for now, since it's already 90 with a nice Essence. An I'm going to need all the resources I can muster for upgrading Tangtang soon. But I can definitely see the easier activation trigger being nice on Chiv.

[outer ermine]

[green cipher]

The point of this reply is?

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-5264665088346427047

[proud vector]

Ok without numbers though all we can do is yapyapyap

So gn have fuuun

[fading fog]

how does soup fit into this rot?

[glass birch]

Tang tang is just Kenny from bleach now.

[chilly bolt]

Imagine if tangtang was a caster, then you can put deto on her and chiv on xaihi

[green cipher]

Tangtang having geas ordering the enemy to stop

[glass birch]

Tang tang is a caster though

[proud vector]

She is though

Caster is class not weapon

[chilly bolt]

Fuck caster in here uses gun

[daring dove]

One thing I noticed about Tangtang + Last Rite team as well, is you can just control Tangtang the entire team which is nice. Where was with Yvonne you'll have to swap controlled character. I'll try both an see what feels better. But I'm leaning towards LR now from the tiny preview we got.

[drifting quest]

2 of the 3 current casters use guns

[green cipher]

Caster means they utilize arts

[drifting quest]

the only arts unit caster is perlica

[green cipher]

[proud vector]

Casting bullet

[drifting quest]

caster means they stack arts inflictions

thats the class

guard means they stack physical infliction

[glass birch]

if you're controlling Tang tang in LR's team then you're nerfing LR's damage.

[green cipher]

Inb4 we have bosses we need to chase for tangtang movement speed buff upscale

[outer ermine]

its p5p5 lr talk lol its way past lr ba dmg

[proud vector]

If you wanted range or the ability to quickly dump SP, Xaihi and her stupid 3 second long normal string is your friend already

[chilly bolt]

You alternate between the 2 for xaihi buff

[jagged tiger]

Xaihi love?

[proud vector]

Xaihi is the rock upon which Cyro is built in all its forms

she IS cyro

[daring dove]

To be honest as well Tangtang maybe better at basic attacks for all we know anyway. LR is mostly there to be the nuke bot as you said.

[summer flicker]

im pretty sure if in this rot

we can just replace the xaihi 2nd bs into tangtang skill

hmm

[outer ermine]

yea ive been rocking xai lead since week 2 lmao tang would be great

[violet rose]

cant rossi just replace chen in the no sustain physical team

[outer ermine]

hopefully as fast or faster than xai atleast w and/or w/o cancels

[drifting quest]

rossi alone is way way way less efficient, and will be less damage

mono phys means no other source of inflictions bar her own ult

[distant python]

Are we replacing alesh with tang2 in the Yvonne team?

[drifting quest]

and her ult does arts damage so isnt buffed by lifeng and pog

[gaunt mason]

2 vs 3 free vuln stacks and rossi will do like no damage because of split scaling

[drifting quest]

maybe, its either alesh or gilberta

[edgy crater]

tang2 clearly a winner for gameplay while rossi more like collection (?)

[drifting quest]

too early to tell

[summer flicker]

it seems that way now

[neon cave]

Is this a tool to make rotations?

[distant python]

Replacing Gil seems miserable seeing as I just pulled her for yvonne

[drifting quest]

from purely minmax tc perspective, from what we have seen of their current kits, yes

[summer flicker]

yes endaxis

[drifting quest]

quite

[green cipher]

Inb4 rossi ult nuke comparable to LR

[drifting quest]

2k multiplier would be pretty average

yvonnes is what 2400

[proud vector]

In my gut I feel neither is a team definer (unless Rossi has busted numbers)

[distant python]

Well I have 20 free pulls on tang tang banner anyway, just gotta gamble better

[summer flicker]

unless her art sus is as big as gilb and her weapon give comparable amount of buff, im not seeing her replacing gilb

[proud vector]

[summer flicker]

[distant python]

She gives sp back though, so surely replacing alesh better

[summer flicker]

ye cope COPIUM

[green cipher]

Rossi is either a really good dps or ember

[summer flicker]

either way, im retire the male in yvonne team

[ashen scroll]

That why i suspect rossi is aether element before , since sword is either guard or vanguard + that blight like aura, cant be fire
Ngl i hope she replace myrt..akakuri

[summer flicker]

[distant python]

I have every character except lava, I don't see the need for Rossi in my phy team

[green cipher]

Rossi has her own team

[drifting quest]

she does not replace akekuri

[distant python]

I'm already being slightly unoptimal in terms of damage with ember

[drifting quest]

the most practical vibecrafting for rossi is building a team about her as a main dps

trying to put her into physical or heat teams is just downgrading said teams, right now, with what info we have

[ashen scroll]

Yes , i hope she was if she was fire element but too bad im correct on her being not a fire operator

[drifting quest]

She might fit into a shatter team, depending on the kit numbers

[ashen scroll]

She one of those blight addict

[proud vector]

Tangtang combo skill being ~12? Cd might mean she could in theory have 2 combo skills down every LR burst phase

If her ultimate cost is like 80, this might be feasible honestly. I have my fingers crossed for that

[fading fog]

replace gilb in cryo with soup to use gilb in rossi team

[ashen scroll]

Do we have their ability description?

[proud vector]

Watch the 40 min vid

It’s buried in there

[green cipher]

Rossi really wants gilb

[ashen scroll]

[neon cave]

No numbers, but the description is there

[calm field]

any arts needs gilb

[green cipher]

Not that

[drifting quest]

unless she gives herself extra energy then 80-100 is the rough range for ult cost

[ashen scroll]

Can someone kind enough to summarize their kit please

[daring dove]

I think Gilberta / Ardelia are still too good in Ice team that you'll be using 1 of them even when Tangtang drops. So Final team will be Yvonne or Last Rite + Tangtang + Xaihi + Gilberta or Ardelia.

[green cipher]

Its because rossi can give gilb vul stacks she wants and gil can give rossi the element infliction she wants for said stacks

[proud vector]

Yeah you’d still need like 56% ult gen at 80 cost which is rough, but that’s not impossibly bad to be a decent subdps Perlica style

[edgy crater]

nah, wulf for cryo

[summer flicker]

that's totally doable

[edgy crater]

[summer flicker]

[drifting quest]

prob closer to 90 if no additional energy given by combo or battle skills

[summer flicker]

just treat her like alesh ult bot

[proud vector]

It’s doable but it costs you damage. The more damage it costs you the less reason you have to run her over a dedicated support

[frozen tide]

Why couldn't tang be a dedicated support

[proud vector]

Tbh she has too much aura for tha

[frozen tide]

She inflitcts cryo and applies susc

[summer flicker]

isnt she a dedicated sp tho

maygidrool

[frozen tide]

And both of those can be achieved without her using sp

[edgy crater]

if its so, dat mean hg admit yvonne need more support

[summer flicker]

they say she can be a dmg dealer

[proud vector]

her competition is Gilb

[summer flicker]

you can build a seperate team for her to be dmgdealder

[summer flicker]

or alesh

[frozen tide]

What im saying is that i don't see a reason why tang tang can't be used as support

She inflitcts cryo and applies susc

[proud vector]

LR team i am talking

[frozen tide]

Without using sp

[summer flicker]

oh lr team,

i keep thinking yvonne team cuz that the only team i have rn

kekw

[distant python]

You are using her as a support, In place of alesh?

[frozen tide]

You don't use alesh to start with on lr

And i play lr

[edgy crater]

oh lol, i thought u mean for cryo team

[frozen tide]

Lr is cryo is she not

[proud vector]

So the application is really not that much crazy crazy good

The susc is really good though since LR loves that shit

[distant python]

I mean you replace perlica with tangtang no?

[violet rose]

i guess rossi wulfgaurd endman gilb and lae akekuri antal ardelia second team would work?

[edgy crater]

cryo mean both lr n yvonne but yeah no need any argu

[distant python]

Depends on how much Sus it is

[summer flicker]

the quality of life is crazy good tho

[outer ermine]

pls susc hard tang

[frozen tide]

Crazy application hardly means anything for lr because cs cd and ult cd is bottlenecked

[summer flicker]

could make sure you not miss yvonne combo skill

kekw

[proud vector]

Yep

[frozen tide]

A bit of application that doesn't take sp is all lr needs

[proud vector]

Her susc and personal damage is what could make her better than gilb in LR

[frozen tide]

Susc is what im rly looking for

Since lr talent multiplies susc

[green cipher]

For horde type situations

[proud vector]

I’m scared her whirlpool push enemy apart ngl

[frozen tide]

Lr ult treating susc as 1.5x is insane

[proud vector]

Hopefully not

[edgy crater]

w8 for number

[proud vector]

Honestly having T2 for oversold nonsense on a LR team is probably really nice hahahahha

go my whirlpools, hunt the enemy down

[edgy crater]

or like her arts susc probably cap at 20

[green cipher]

Tangtang will solve mobbing

[frozen tide]

20 susc is pretty good

Nothing amazing

But servicable

Another issue with tang rn is that 1.0 has dogshit hand cannon options

[summer flicker]

im coping her suc is like 20% or sth maybe 15%

[frozen tide]

For supports

[summer flicker]

ye her sig needs to be good

[edgy crater]

yeah, technically worse than ardel but get easier cryo stack

[summer flicker]

or at least bp

[frozen tide]

If there was like deto equivalent hand cannon

It would be massive tang upscale

[jagged tiger]

I wonder how good wedge will be on her

Also her sig

[summer flicker]

use yvonne sig on her kekw

[edgy crater]

wedge catered dps tho, so highly doubt

[frozen tide]

If tang dmg ratio in team is high those types of self dmg weaps could be good

[summer flicker]

make her dps

in her own dps team

[edgy crater]

well, dats possible lol

[echo cove]

Hmm i just realized the implications of using tangtang to replace ard in lr team....

[outer ermine]

[echo cove]

Who's gonna use the xiranite set

[summer flicker]

if her sig is support orientated, if you want to dps her, just wedge/artzy

[jagged tiger]

Replacing ardelia?

[echo cove]

Translate pls

[jagged tiger]

Don't you still need to proc corrosive for res removal

[echo cove]

Yea i was considering that. And no? Why would u need corossion?

[edgy crater]

well, its already in my sight on 1st glance

[proud vector]

Corrosion lv 1 is kinda shitty

[echo cove]

Cooked

[frozen tide]

Corrosion lvl 1 is good when its full effectiveness

[jagged tiger]

Also there's also Gilberta

[echo cove]

And? If i replace ardelia, that whole kit is replaced

[frozen tide]

It just takes too long

And pain to maintain

[proud vector]

Ardelia’s is shorter than normal too

[edgy crater]

if tang2 replace eyja, xaihi forced to use xira set

[frozen tide]

Yeah ard corrosion specifically is ass

[echo cove]

So what? Replace perlica? I'm questioning tangtang's place in lr team lil

[green cipher]

Corrosion -res just takes too long

[echo cove]

Which is abt 200 less int

[jagged tiger]

Is gilberta better though

[frozen tide]

Not rly

[edgy crater]

175 int

[frozen tide]

Xira set bonus is very very little

[echo cove]

175 less int, sure

[distant python]

Put xiranite set on tang, she has sus

[frozen tide]

Rite by herself gets +316 percent dmg bonus

[proud vector]

why bother with Xira set on LR team I guess? LR has a lot of dmg% from Khrav and such right

[edgy crater]

hmm, abandon xira set bonus?

[frozen tide]

With p5 khrav

[echo cove]

Fr?

[frozen tide]

Dmg bonus is so so so diluted on rite

[edgy crater]

well yeah

[echo cove]

Hmmm rly?

[proud vector]

T2’s personal damage looks ok

In theory

[frozen tide]

P5 p5 she gets over 300 percent dmg bonus with tide

[edgy crater]

khrav

[chilly bolt]

That also include tide set too?

[proud vector]

So maybe it’s better for overall team damage if she just runs a dmg set

[frozen tide]

Yes

[echo cove]

P5 p5?

[echo cove]

True that

[frozen tide]

P5 p5 means p5 rite p5 khrav

[echo cove]

Ohh

[proud vector]

That’s a whale LR

[chilly bolt]

Or 5+5

[frozen tide]

Even p0 khrav p0 rite she still gets well over +200

[echo cove]

But like... Who's whaling enuf for p5 lr and p5 krav

[proud vector]

Uh

[edgy crater]

w8, do we got red xiranite set?

[echo cove]

Don't answer that

[proud vector]

Multiple regulars in this very chat LOL

[echo cove]

I know ppl will

[proud vector]

[echo cove]

[green cipher]

People craves for nuking

[frozen tide]

Even if ur not a whale ur rite has shitload of dmg bonus

[echo cove]

Hmm i think i saw it earlier

[echo cove]

Yeah, that's fair

[green cipher]

They lost ability to play if they cant nuke

[edgy crater]

welp waiting for red gear effect then

[echo cove]

Hm but what set would even be good on sup aside from xira?

[ashen scroll]

This is not warframe

[frozen tide]

None rn

[echo cove]

Fair enuf

[proud vector]

T2 personal damage worth considering to run dmg tbh

[frozen tide]

If they added a supp gear

That gave team atk percent

[echo cove]

T2 is?

[green cipher]

Just waiting for 6* set

[frozen tide]

Or smth

It would be nuts

[proud vector]

Tangtang

[echo cove]

Oh

[proud vector]

People saying Tang2

The evolution becomes T2

or SS

[frozen tide]

Just forget the t

[proud vector]

…wait

[echo cove]

Oh u mean if tangtang in cryo acts like chen in phy dmgwise?

[drifting quest]

Yinglung - 2 Body, 2 Gloves
MI Security - Body, Gloves, Kit
Swordmancer - Body, 2 Kits
Hot Work - Body, Gloves
Pulser Labs - 2 Kits
Yinglung (but its actually bonekrusha, typo in stream) - Body, Gloves, Kit
Aethertech - 2 Kits, Gloves
LYNX - Kit
Frontiers - Body, Gloves, 2 Kits
Redeemer - 2 Body, 2 Gloves

[frozen tide]

Say 2

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1XTPTzvEtc
beaten already

[chilly bolt]

Holy...

[frozen tide]

Redeeemer body and gloves

[edgy crater]

[frozen tide]

😋

[edgy crater]

damn

[outer ermine]

w starry swap this time

[echo cove]

Am interested in redeemer

Maybe redeemer t2?

[edgy crater]

stary swap really stonk lol

[echo cove]

[sterile patrol]

redeemer

[frozen tide]

Starry swap?

What's that

[proud vector]

Ello Guoba

[twilit quail]

precast ult

[frozen tide]

Guobatato

[edgy crater]

also yeah no red xira set

[twilit quail]

swap waepon before entering combat

[frozen tide]

Ahhh

[chilly bolt]

You can use xaihi ult before battle and swap her stuff out

[proud vector]

That’s silly af

[echo cove]

Eh... Wtf

[frozen tide]

Starry does have insane secondary percent

[edgy crater]

its impractical

[twilit quail]

ok so

this is nothing

[echo cove]

What is this? A new gear?

[edgy crater]

but u can get 1k int xaihi lol

[twilit quail]

I used to do d2 speedrunning

we would swap gear like

5 times in 1 encounter on average

[green cipher]

[quasi quarry]

you can switch gear????

[frozen tide]

Ard sig

[echo cove]

Ah i see

[proud vector]

Well that’s Diablo

[edgy crater]

u can before combat stance

[echo cove]

W8 r u suggesting starry xaihi? For int+2nd stat?

[proud vector]

It is a bit more common to do gear swaps in old mmo though yeah

[ashen scroll]

I hope they make tactical are not just for healing items

[echo cove]

The 3rd stat is so garbage tho lmfao

[outer ermine]

gear presets when

[echo cove]

Uh there's an ult charge one

[dry mist]

From the live stream does Tang Tang seem like a pull? I main LR

[echo cove]

Like what am runnin here

[edgy crater]

xaihi starry -> ulti -> swap deto/chival -> enter combat

[quasi quarry]

damn, it's not really that gamebreaking for the average player but you'd think they wouldn't make an oversight like that lol

[sterile patrol]

no one knows until numbers + full kit

[chilly bolt]

Yeah lol why don't they just have this since release already

[echo cove]

Dk til wel get full kit including weapon effect

[proud vector]

Wait numbers. Tang2 could be upgrade to LR teams in theory depending on ultimate energy cost

[echo cove]

Ah... That's just... Super weird

[edgy crater]

as long as tang2 can 1 ulti/rot, should be ok tho

[green cipher]

But thats just a theory

[frozen tide]

True ult cost is a potential varricade

[dry mist]

I see is umm LR top 3 dps rn?

[green cipher]

A game theory

Idk

[frozen tide]

For st probably

[proud vector]

Yeah she is top 3

[echo cove]

Isn't lr like best st rn?

[wraith idol]

LR?

[frozen tide]

Lr is probably top 2 st depending on timeline

[drifting quest]

somewhat

[echo cove]

Or has yvone dethroned that?

[drifting quest]

at highest investment p5/p5

[edgy crater]

beaten by p5 yvonne

[echo cove]

What's the contender?

[drifting quest]

on aggro speedrunning

yvonne is fastest

[frozen tide]

Yvonne has speedkill timelines that best lr

[outer ermine]

we beat yvonne at like dorito only prob rn

[echo cove]

Fair enuf

[drifting quest]

if you dont do on aggro, or you arent p5/p5

lr is ahead

[outer ermine]

and umbral

[proud vector]

P0P0 though? LR should be ahead yeah

[frozen tide]

P0p0 lr is still good st

[echo cove]

P0p0 lr best

[edgy crater]

only lr dat can do skip p2?

[drifting quest]

basically the current speedrun format benefits yvonne more than it does last rite

[frozen tide]

Laev st is kind of in shambles

[outer ermine]

i havent seen dorito yvonne yet so idk

[echo cove]

Fair enuf

[outer ermine]

marble she onetaps the tentacles

[frozen tide]

Sounds miserable

[outer ermine]

[green cipher]

Laev st speedrun is balls

[low viper]

NGL Rossi seems like trash if her dmg number is not outstanding. to bring her into physic team you not only need to replace like lifeng, you also need another position for an infliction guy. element infliction characters currently all are basically useless unless the target has high infliction number. so you basically need a vacancy for a character who barely does anything. only Gilb seems ok, but even that, you only have 2 positions left.

[echo cove]

Lr?

[outer ermine]

yvonne

[echo cove]

How tf?

[ashen scroll]

Oh right i forgor about those, that why people been setting up turrets on the doggis and slug spawn spot

[edgy crater]

yeah yvonne good at killing tentacles

[frozen tide]

Ace up rossis sleeve is 2x vuln cs and sig performance

[echo cove]

Jeez

[echo cove]

Yep

[proud vector]

again, That CS is still pretty expensive since an infliction isn’t free

It’s basically spend an infliction BS for a vuln and then do a vuln on top

[frozen tide]

Her ult is infliction atleast

[outer ermine]

the p0 lrs should be cooking rn tho, saw couple of them in my vid saying theyll try it

surely

[edgy crater]

breaking 20s?

[dry mist]

Would Tang Tang seem to be replacing Perlica/Flourite?

[proud vector]

Yeah energy breakpoints matter for her as well. If she can self fuel she could be good

[frozen tide]

Wait i have a fire argument

[outer ermine]

10

[low viper]

that's an ult, so she would be either slow or bring a useless guy to an overcrowded team of physical characters

[edgy crater]

[proud vector]

Like some sort of stupid 250% energy build haha

[edgy crater]

dfq

[frozen tide]

Lr is cheap because you just need p3 and you get 2 selectors for p1 to start with

[edgy crater]

p0p0 lr 10s fatso?

[frozen tide]

Fire argument

[outer ermine]

or atleast 11

[echo cove]

2 selector?

[wraith idol]

Do we know what tang2 skills have infliction or peeps just guessing?

[proud vector]

Two selectors? Huh?

[green cipher]

Its in the vid

[outer ermine]

p3, i forgor what p0 time was actually theyre on 15 rn too lemme check

[green cipher]

[frozen tide]

One from mail before and one from standard 240

[paper sand]

bs, ult

[river ermine]

std300 not 240

[low viper]

she has infliction

[proud vector]

standard 300 aaaaaaaaaaaa

[low viper]

she's very strong

[wraith idol]

Damn — was hoping combo

[echo cove]

W8 do ppl get to standard 300?

[low viper]

rossi? seems like really weak in comparison

[frozen tide]

Shhhh

[paper sand]

yeah same

[ashen scroll]

Question, if i set up turrets on the doggos and slug and didnt take their meat would it send thru mail like other items next day?

[river ermine]

next next patch we might

[frozen tide]

Im pretty close 60 pulls away

[river ermine]

wtf you pull standard lmao

[echo cove]

How...?

[river ermine]

use oroberyl obv

[green cipher]

Ao

[echo cove]

Am still at like 160 or sum shit

[frozen tide]

All i care is lr pot

[echo cove]

The hell

[frozen tide]

🤷‍♂️

[proud vector]

They are a LR fanatic

[river ermine]

i have one lr i dont use at lvl 20

[green cipher]

LR simps

[chilly bolt]

Not sure if we can reach standard 300 before game eos at this rate

[wraith idol]

Just bs and ult doesn’t seem like enough but I guess her and Gil will be enough to max stack assuming tang can ult fast?!?

[echo cove]

GIMME

[river ermine]

give me 1 ardelia and i give u 1 lr

[river ermine]

dijiang slave

[echo cove]

I'll trade my p1 ardelia

[river ermine]

actually i have 2 lr, i still have my selector

[echo cove]

[river ermine]

[echo cove]

Why not selector ardelia p1?

[river ermine]

cus i have p3

[echo cove]

....

Whel

[river ermine]

wtf

[frozen tide]

Im down what your telegram

[green cipher]

Imagine having other units

All I have is p5 lae

[ashen scroll]

Its actualy valid strat if youre f2p and want p5p5 and p5 5☆ since we still got smoll roster

[river ermine]

new horizon 10 = ardelia
laev banner 20 = ardelia
standard 80 = ardelia

[green cipher]

[river ermine]

where whel

[ashen scroll]

[wraith idol]

I spent all my in-game pulls to p3 yvonne. So either bricked or meta depending on tang

[echo cove]

Whel

Yvone is good w proper team

[river ermine]

i dont have telegram u take baker

[proud vector]

Can you even afford tang now

[edgy crater]

hmm 11s enough for 4 cryo stack?

[ashen scroll]

A friend got p4p5 pog f2p i want to twist his balls

[frozen tide]

Lets just meet in person we can meet in Australia

[wraith idol]

If she comes after rossi — I hope

[echo cove]

W t2, yeh

[proud vector]

Nope she’s first pretty sure

[outer ermine]

0+1 fastest is 15s yeah

[river ermine]

oh hell na thats like a 6hr flight if direct

[wraith idol]

Then why they tease rossi first?!? Im cooked

[frozen tide]

Lets meet in hongkong

Get some arknights merch

[river ermine]

oh real?

[proud vector]

They do? In the video TangTang’s kit is explained first

[river ermine]

i want the hg x 8bitdo keyboard

[slow wing]

Wait is the new gear pieces direct upgrade to the current ones?? I've already maxed artifice all my piece for Yvonne..

[green cipher]

Its just trailer

[paper sand]

rossi is first on the trailer

[river ermine]

we dont know yet

[proud vector]

She is also the only full colour spoiled upcoming

[proud vector]

Oh rip lmao

[frozen tide]

I want 1:1 scale khravengger model sword

As merch

[wraith idol]

Exactly

[echo cove]

Is it rossi first or tangtang first?

[outer ermine]

i do that in my rot w 8.8

[slow wing]

Pls don't do this to me 😭 i have ZERO artifice material rn

[echo cove]

Hmmmmmmm

[river ermine]

ion think they done it yet

[green cipher]

1.1 is easy skip for my glorius fangyi and mifu

[river ermine]

tangtang first

[frozen tide]

I deadass like khrav more than lr

[river ermine]

khrav looks ugly with the purple ngl

[echo cove]

Khrav is cool

What

[river ermine]

they shdve made that thing light blue or smth

the

[river ermine]

yk

[outer ermine]

only thing that changes is lr needs to ult

[frozen tide]

I wish khrav p5 gave it blue aura not stanky purple

[river ermine]

essence

[echo cove]

Eh... Idk man. I like how it's purple

[river ermine]

and the p5 also uggy

[echo cove]

Matches w how purple ice r tougher than regular ice in many fiction stories

[signal sundial]

they have the same tier of stats but likely different effects

[echo cove]

Haven't had the p5 so idk

[signal sundial]

they're not meant to be upgrades, maybe side grades depending on what they cook

[proud vector]

Solidification set pls solidification set plz

[frozen tide]

I love my big blue ice stick

[proud vector]

give my shatter phys POWER

[drifting quest]

no new sets, except maybe redeemer gear set getting a 3p

[river ermine]

pulsar looks like new

[drifting quest]

only new stat lines for existing gear sets

[river ermine]

honestly other than hot work it all looks new

lmao

[whole dove]

Now that we have Rossis Kit available, what you think is gonna be her best team? The only unit i see you have to run with her has to be Wulfgard because she wants Combustion? Correct me if i am wrong. What about the other 2 teammembers? I am still confused

[frozen tide]

Redeemer 3p multiplies total ult gain by 20 percent

[drifting quest]

Yinglung - 2 Body, 2 Gloves
MI Security - Body, Gloves, Kit
Swordmancer - Body, 2 Kits
Hot Work - Body, Gloves
Pulser Labs - 2 Kits
Yinglung (but its actually bonekrusha, typo in stream) - Body, Gloves, Kit
Aethertech - 2 Kits, Gloves
LYNX - Kit
Frontiers - Body, Gloves, 2 Kits
Redeemer - 2 Body, 2 Gloves

[slow wing]

I see. Almost cried lol

[ashen scroll]

Need to upgrade factory for the new gear

[drifting quest]

Current vibecraft is Rossi Gilberta Pog DaPan

[river ermine]

redeemer is literally in the non-set dawg

[drifting quest]

potentially Laevatein Gilberta Rossi Wulfgard

[green cipher]

Crit hotwork set is gonna be so funny

[drifting quest]

or Estella Alesh Endmin Rossi

[echo cove]

U mean 3rd stat?

[frozen tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1471282559974379664/chen-end-field.gif

[signal sundial]

ye

[river ermine]

you do know we have a separate tab for

non-set right

[green cipher]

[river ermine]

redeemer is there..

[glass birch]

So thoughts on possible set for Rossi?

[whole dove]

Wait what... Not Wulfgard? So she doesnt want Combustion?

[echo cove]

Like the suckass miner set?

[river ermine]

mi security

[green cipher]

Thats so scuffed

[proud vector]

We don’t know how good combustion condition of T2 is

[glass birch]

Rossi does want combustion for her own personal dmg

[river ermine]

unless new hot work gonna have a new set effect

[drifting quest]

if she requires crit as much as yvonne the only set is mi security

[frozen tide]

They are adding other redeemer non kit pieces apparently so who knows

[proud vector]

It could be kit centralisingly strong

It could be fck all

[ashen scroll]

She want you to combust your creditcard

[proud vector]

We don’t know without numbers

[signal sundial]

rossi's sig looks really cool and i literally want to pull it just for the jpg

[edgy crater]

hmm is it enough for 11s? lr ulti kinda long

[next helm]

Why does it feel like Rossi wants a new phys unit

[river ermine]

i think its just, were getting redeemer chest and gloves

[ashen scroll]

Devil maycry sword

[river ermine]

we alrd have like 4 redeemer kits

[glass birch]

Rossi wants pog and Wulf

[signal sundial]

for anyone wondering if this gear is better than the current tiers

[next helm]

Why Pog?

Won't her damage be mostly arts?

[proud vector]

Vuln spender

[frozen tide]

Yeah so they might add set effect

Might not

[river ermine]

nah her ult is heat

[glass birch]

Her BS SEQ1 is phys and her combo skill is phys. Her combo skill is like LR's. It consumes infliction for higher phys dmg

[edgy crater]

redeemer chest mean we can get its set effect on wulf n ake lol

[river ermine]

if it even has set effect

[river ermine]

dev log mentioned her dmg window is in ult

[proud vector]

That.
Huh,
You’re right it might scale above 1 infliction lol

[river ermine]

ult deals heat dmg

[echo cove]

[outer ermine]

its like 5s iirc so theyre gonna cope w what speed they xan get

for 3 slashes

[glass birch]

It does. It was stated it deals more dmg with more inflictions

[echo cove]

R we sure rossi isn't supposed to be a new fire dps?

[outer ermine]

maybe p3 can break sowmthing

[echo cove]

Or well hybrid phy fire dps

[drifting quest]

she's a hybrid unless potentials change it

[proud vector]

1000% her kit is revealed

[edgy crater]

kek yeah

[echo cove]

[next helm]

From the footage alone how important is tangtang?

[drifting quest]

not mandatory, potentially very good

[proud vector]

Good? Not mandatory

[edgy crater]

p3 lr can kill fatso with only 4stack cryo

[daring dove]

Watch I'll finally get to 48k of these an they'll make them useless.

[next helm]

They wont

[edgy crater]

gonna turn yvonne team into more premium team lol

[next helm]

I might send one pity

[proud vector]

Ok maybe Rossi Wulf X is a team after all then

[echo cove]

Why even get that much, we alr know components r like... Very easy to turn into garbage

[next helm]

seeing as I am pretty close

[outer igloo]

who would tangtang even replace in yvonne team

[glass birch]

Alesh

[edgy crater]

GL hitting 3/4 limited op to make a team

[next helm]

alesh or perlica

[edgy crater]

[outer igloo]

ic

[glass birch]

Tang tang's BS can recover like 200 SP

[next helm]

return

but that doesn't matter for yvonne

[daring dove]

Because I hit max on batteries & Syringe, so needed something else to make.

[proud vector]

??screenshot this

[river ermine]

unlikely to get breach up by this point, no?

[edgy crater]

dfq u cope again

[glass birch]

Did you not watch the stream?

[edgy crater]

tang2 basically yvonne slave

[edgy crater]

i do, but wheres ur proof

[outer ermine]

watch bro show the finisher clip

[edgy crater]

i don't remember tang2 bs give 200 sp

[river ermine]

also im not insane right we didnt get a new roadmap?

[proud vector]

We saw it return 30~sp

[distant python]

Wait is it sp recovery or sp return

[edgy crater]

is it the one with lr in team?

[glass birch]

100 SP cost btw. This is before and after using BS

[lyric shard]

so what's the current theoretical Rossi comp

[green cipher]

Lae mains just sits in the corner for not having nee premium supps

[outer ermine]

lol

[daring dove]

To be fair she looks to be working fine with either, slightly more synergy with Yvonne, slightly more comfy with LR.

[edgy crater]

dats finisher?

[proud vector]

That’s the finisher attack

You can confirm there are no whirlpools active after it

[feral fractal]

yvonne and last rite fans eating so good next update

[proud vector]

She does a combo skill too

[edgy crater]

confusing with lr but make yvonne player horny

[drifting quest]

rossi/gilberta/pog/dapan

maybe
rossi/alesh/estella/endmin
or
laev/rossi/gilberta/wulfgard

[green cipher]

A cope phys team with rossi gil pog dapan/endmin or rossi ake gil wulf/perli

[outer ermine]

funny cuz b4 cryo was supposed to be the one not having anything till later patch

[chilly bolt]

rossi ult does seem like it does a lot of dmg

[feral fractal]

meanwhile people are torn over discussing if rossi is good or if she will brick your account

[lyric shard]

cool so time to raise Gilberta

[edgy crater]

tbh p3 rossi kinda goofy for dat strong pic

[river ermine]

30%/30% dmg phys team

[drifting quest]

nothing will brick your account game is super easy

[green cipher]

Cause cryo suckballs they needed premium support so bad

[outer igloo]

rossi's kit looks all over the place ngl inflicting vuln and her ult does fire damage

[drifting quest]

she just does not appear to be better than existing options right now

[proud vector]

Add Rossi/Wulf/pog/X as potential as well in case her combo skill can eat like 3 pyro infliction for massive dmg or if talent 2 is good with combustion

[edgy crater]

only yvonne lol

[green cipher]

This is ragebait obviously

[glass birch]

Is it? the damned text is in the way.

🤮 Yeah you're actually right. Thats gross. Her BS only returned like 30 SP when consuming 2 spouts

[drifting quest]

probably sunk cost to do it, compared to just buffing her instead

[glass birch]

Now that killed my hype for tang tang

[drifting quest]

assuming her multiplier is similar to yvonne, maybe last rite's

[edgy crater]

bruh

[proud vector]

again yeah Talent 2 makes or breaks Wulf in her team imo. If the combustion active bonus is good then he has a chance. It’s way too costly to activate in any other way I can think of atm

[edgy crater]

🤔 rossi being lr for physical? dats really weird

[drifting quest]

her kit is a bit of a mess

[green cipher]

I mean what exactly you losing for yeeting chen anf lifeng in pog dapan/endmin in place for gil and rossi

[edgy crater]

yeah i know

[lyric shard]

yeah Mono phys does the same job, from the looks of it Monophys does it as good as if not better
we gotta see the numbers and all first
currently she seems like a gimmick pick, but who knows, maybe she's gonna be really good

[glass birch]

Rossi's kit is like a mix of Yvonne and LR's but for Phys/heat dmg lol

[green cipher]

Thats 2 premium unit

[river ermine]

the funny thing is it consumes arts inflict

[lyric shard]

[drifting quest]

it makes me wonder if this is going to continue and be a consequence of no beta cycles

[edgy crater]

she does consume infliction

[chilly bolt]

her ult is heat dmg, and it seems like it actually does noticeable amount of dmg

[river ermine]

its arts infliction

but deals phys dmg

ult deals heat dmg

[lyric shard]

• crit conditional of Yvonne
• Last Rite-esque scaling with arts

[river ermine]

isnt that like funny

[edgy crater]

now, whos the support lmao

[river ermine]

imo perli ake gilb

[proud vector]

Feels a bit spicy and experimental… reminds me of OG AK a little tbh

[jovial grove]

I wonder if tang tang will save Yvonne

Or still lr better

[green cipher]

Its safer to turn rossi into heat hyper carry than cope vul stacker

[glass birch]

needs her talent though. Each crit does an additional hit and against a combusted target the dmg is higher

[river ermine]

or perli change to wulf

video stated her dmg window is within ult

not cs

[edgy crater]

rossi literally og chen lmao

[river ermine]

though we still dont have numbers

so its just daydreaming rn

[chilly bolt]

ye she can be a hypercarry if her numbers turn out good

[drifting quest]

which is fine, good even
issue is dev time and gaps between releases is much larger here compared to og ak

[summer flower]

No numbers

[drifting quest]

which might turn people off the game

[lyric shard]

physical team
look inside
gilberta (arts infliction), wulfgard (arts infliction), Rossi (both), Endmin (technically the only pure Physical unit)

[proud vector]

Imagine if her Talent2 critting would cause talent2 to activate again lmfao

Recursive critting!

[glass birch]

If you're building Rossi for purely ult damage; Rossi/Gil/Wulf/Ake
If you're building her for hybrid phys/heat; Rossi/Pog/Ardelia/Wulf

[summer flower]

Looks fine tbh

[river ermine]

gaps between release?

[daring dove]

As I have said a few times with Rossi already. For me she seems like a solution to a problem literally nobody was having. Just a confusing character all around, it doesn't mean her team buffs & synergies with Gilberta won't redeem her. But a PHY guard unit that eats arts inflictions why? Just why?

[lyric shard]

ardelia doesn't do arts infliction

[river ermine]

each unit is at like, 17 days lol

[chilly bolt]

endmin would be better than pog, or even dapan

[green cipher]

Well see if her ult cost is 100-120

[drifting quest]

for the same element/playstyle/etc

[lyric shard]

she force Corrosion

[feral fractal]

does her ult do fire damage?

[glass birch]

Dont really need another arts infliction w/ Wulf. He can do 3 stacks on his own with combo > Ult > Combo and 4 total for 100 SP + 1 ult

[lyric shard]

yep heat dmg and heat infliction

[summer flower]

Didn't OG arknights had units that weren't good but then later became good?

[proud vector]

Honestly isn’t that for the best? A solved unit isn’t as interesting sometimes than one that doesn’t quite fit just yet

Though that’s better for 5* not a limited 6* I concede

[river ermine]

suffering from 4man team games

[summer flower]

Due to new operators?

[edgy crater]

none?

[feral fractal]

they setting rossi up for the future trust

[lyric shard]

fair enough, but should you run idk Pog then for breach dmg so you can do big boy Crush with Endmin/Da Pan

[feral fractal]

like watching your daughter grow up

[summer flower]

None?

Ehh, you sure?

[edgy crater]

literally none

yeah

[green cipher]

Potential girl until calcs comes out

[river ermine]

modules

like godssenger

[summer flower]

I prettying much remember one that was like that after I returned

[rare zodiac]

CS ult CS is 2 no? Ult is combustion not infliction

[chilly bolt]

modules in endfield...

[glass birch]

Honestly if you're going pog-endmin/da pan you're better off using chen w/ the current phys team

[chilly bolt]

imagine

[river ermine]

i dont want module yet though

[edgy crater]

oh w8, its og skadi

[odd wren]

Its not big boy without physical susceptability xd

[chilly bolt]

nah skadi still sucks

[drifting quest]

where is the second infliction coming from to proc his second combo

[edgy crater]

shes somewhat ok after her gang arrived

[river ermine]

pretty sure skadi still sucks

[glass birch]

yeah you're right, but he still needs the first application so 200 SP for 4 heat affliction

[lyric shard]

to be fair she's has like 3 stacks of vuln baked into her kit so she's basically hypercarrying vuln
except she's not cause she wants arts infliction

[lyric shard]

true lmao

[chilly bolt]

skadi is just a buff bot

[edgy crater]

yeah but actually used on AH gang lol

[proud vector]

They found tech

If you ult to cancel the first combo skill quick at p5 it allows the first combo skill to trigger the second one

It’s funny af

[glass birch]

You can proc his 2nd combo off the first if you use ult before the combo hits

[summer flower]

Also been couple of stages when otherwise mid tier operator becomed S tier or God tier useful in those

[rich linden]

Sketti

[lyric shard]

hookmasters

[summer flower]

Ohh yea

[edgy crater]

its modules n IS gimmick

[summer flower]

Hook, most of time bad, hook sometimes godlike

[drifting quest]

somewhat impactical timing then, since you either waste the energy from the first combo or have to get ult exactly off the energy of the combo, and i dont know if you get the energy on cast or on hit

[summer flower]

Nah, pretty sure hook thing was stage dependent

[lyric shard]

AK players cooking up new contraptions with hookmasters to bully Crownslayer

[summer flower]

Not IS stuff

[drifting quest]

not sure its a realistic thing to plan around

[rare zodiac]

Energy on hit

[edgy crater]

nah, is stuff buff both shifter

[chilly bolt]

if you mean like someone become better because of new release op, i think it's gnosis when silverash alter released, still not that significant

[proud vector]

Yeah I’ve seen people say you need 234% energy gen or something crazy like that

[summer flower]

I look at operators as puzzle piecies

[drifting quest]

pretty useless tech then

[proud vector]

But the tech exists ig

[glass birch]

useless how?

[summer flower]

If you look at them as puzzles

It's way better

[edgy crater]

well, hes still good before sa alter release anyway

[twilit quail]

dude

[drifting quest]

misaligns your ultimate generation by wasting the combo's energy

[glass birch]

you get the ult energy on hit; So you're getting 2 combo hits worth of energy instead of 1

[twilit quail]

this is the entire basis

of 4 ebs

because he gets energy from both

after he cast the ult

[rare zodiac]

Cs ult cs let you get ult energy of both cs for wulf

[twilit quail]

this has been

the most practical thing

[glass birch]

On hit. means you get 2 combos worth of energy after using ult.

[twilit quail]

for literal weeks

you might be cooked

[drifting quest]

the animation should still be active

when 1st hits

[twilit quail]

like just fucked in the head

ngl

[drifting quest]

maybe it just works

and its coded beneficially i guess

[summer flower]

Wording

But otherwise I agree

[terse valley]

what is rossi's 2nd talent?

[proud vector]

Tends to be on hit so yeah lucky

[drifting quest]

ill have to test and see

[twilit quail]

idk the fact that you are having doubts about this at all

[green cipher]

All I see is her helping gil get the stacks fast for fattier sus which gil enable by giving rossi the stacks she needs in the first place that will benefit both of their ult afterwards

[rare zodiac]

But it just work ™

[twilit quail]

whatever

[glass birch]

deals additional hits when she crits. Hits heal Rossi. If the target has Combustion applied then the dmg and heal is higher

[drifting quest]

Battle Skill has an extra hit if it crits, and heals some hp

[feral fractal]

so based on my understanding rossi is a fire unit disguised as physical cus she converts arts inflictions into vulnerability

[green cipher]

Or a creative unit

[proud vector]

I’m pretty sure that’s you mixing up talent 1 and 2

[terse valley]

is that on bskill or ult?

[lyric shard]

honestly Gil + Rossi might actually be viable for a "physical" comp

[glass birch]

its when the effect from BS SEQ2 is applied

[proud vector]

1sex

Fetching screenies

[green cipher]

Well see ig

[lyric shard]

the spelling error goes crazy

[terse valley]

one WHAT