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too much dmg
i like how this game has literally just become
If you can make Yvon just hit the last two hit only without any of the pewpews it should be doable.
he didnt put timer when checking run earlier so mf gatekeeping 
Or hitting the highest possible damage
can you even call it endgame or just player mass boredom
Just zero sanity behavior
I've seen things i shouldn't have in this game
its end of patch it's understandable for most people to be hitting this point now
clearly the 1.1 livestream theyve seen people doing this and will introduce a 5th gamemode thats 1 time only that you have to beat bosses in 10 seconds for 3/5 of a pull
W HG
people tend to ignore that though because the raw count looks worse
i just want standard pull income and arsenal tickets
and then another ardelia wouldnt hurt
and then another
\0 bias btw
those are valid concerns
holy fuck im
7 iframes
5 fails
today, this might be it
Finally starting to get my LR build to a respectable level. Her max attack unbuffed in about 5.6k with a proper build correct?
gl hifu, beat dat yvonne 
depend on gear
also 611 str? i don't remember p3+ give more str
5.6k yeah with aethertech but you want to use frontier so it's usually just 5.5k
dats aether chest for sure cause its dumb lr

93 int
but still, where u get 611 str
if its 6s i cant its just kit diff atp

6s like ulti 1 bs then kill black screen?
But none of it is close to maxed, I'm trialing just upgrading characters key nodes to +2 then leaving it there.
Not sure artificing to + 3 is worth when you have a lot of characters to build.
Nah just 1st or 2nd artificed is good enough for efficiency
But you want max 3/3 for the 3rd line
precast ult bs fs, needs to not crit before fs but i forgor which one
i was just watching stream while grinding too
Yeah I think the only exception to this is when you're trying to reach an ult gain target that requires +3 otherwise just leave your DPS's at +2 rn.
damn losing to yvonne

guess dat p5 really make difference 
nah, u will reach cutscenes before cs lol
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV123ABzgE7T
oh yesterdays tries

Damn crazy thumbnail
that seems about right for a last rite thumbnail
bruh, let me become Singaporean for a sec, cant even load dat shit

is this true crit?
aint should be 1.4m?
@outer ermine Did you pick up P5 Yvonne btw or skip?
urs 1.34m
u got bug crit then lol
idc if shes crit dps
i welcome it i hate lr
dats not tru crit
is there a 5th crit bruh
theres 4 possible on lr lol iirc
Fair fair, wish I had the fortitude to do the same. but getting her P2 in like 70 pulls sealed my fate. 
700k -> 1m technically 1.5x so its should be tru crit
i have her p2 from pulling gil 
its just if ur non crit already 940k, its should be 1.41m on crit
lol, getting spook
btw for crosscheck, crit being entire different shit isnt? on cal, so like number calc x 1.5 as crit
Yeah I took mine to P5, then got utterly destroyed on weapon banner getting her sig like 2x (guaranteed) during 24 pulls. 
So her weapon is P1
30min until stream?
Yeah I'm not going back in for more copies of sig I have other priorities, for example the stuff shown on the livestream today.
should appear in 10m, start in 25m
the sig probably can stay at p0
only need dat p5 yvonne lol
921597 ginseng
946967 ginseng
944294 jakubs
are the numbers im seeing, and i havent upgraded shit
Has anyone hit Authority level 59 yet btw, I'm curious if they're going to do some Genshin BS with that last level an make it take 3x longer than the previous levels.
its does since last 2 days i think
i saw it on X before
sciel, a jp youtube cc
pretty sure theyre korean but yea
Max sanity refreshing then. Someone had to be insane enough to do it.
tbf it makes sense a cc is doing it
cuz they can tax reduct that shit
or they just do it
"for content"
already lost my adrenaline from yvonne clear
im sluggish af again
buggy character
and to answer your question it takes 45000 from 59 to 60
I guess, I still find the increase a bit exponential, as far as I'm aware its 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 4. I'm not sure what's after 4 because I have never gone past 2, 2, 2.
It stays at 4 until 10
refreshes are just a whale thing anyway
Ah fair, so 8 for 5 refreshes, 28 to max out daily.
I think I'll stick to 2 or 8. Depending on if I'm in the middle of building a new character or not.
Which I constantly am rn.
The first two refreshes are really reasonable to be honest, an the first 5 aren't so bad. After that though you're throwing 5 pulls worth of currency away daily almost.
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1p3PMzQEAL
@drifting quest @edgy crater
volume warning btw
im bros biggest fan 
he did it
we lose

i cant even make the funny joke
on aggro is nearing the limit
only thing missing is someone actually doing the avy bug
we lost 2hrs ago 
How about HG being consistent once and still time the medal post trimmed.
One can only hope ndream.
theres avy bug as well?
infinite stew meeting bug > infinite avy spear = 0s speedrun
oh so that's the meaning of the pinned image
dfq
theres a 8s avy setup but no run yet i think
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i havent checked agleast
pharaoh time
40mins
Holy fuck 40 mins
40 mins

YO
Yes daddy.
YO
Naiiice
ROSSI IS PHYS
bruh, not even premier
NANI
tangtang holy cyro
I TOLD YOU SHE'S PHYS
i aint reading all that
Tantang cyro
yvonne get outta here
they gave guaranteed essence this early
I wished this to existence 
So many small stupid qols I love this.
Protocol pass standard tickets lets gooo
Imma need 120k oberyls to get all the chars
no skip
Timestop too op 
LEVEL 90 GEAR
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good thing I haven't max artificed
EVERYTHING OUT THE WINDOWWWWWW

noice
Oh shit that’s such a good system then

Cooked
The dominion of SLAB approaches!
Oh boy.

1 more month of tcing gears
oh fuck

AUTO FULL
THE CATALYST
AUTO FULL ENERGY

IN DOMAINS
Hey it's extra content.
just outside of the game.
ok false alert
its new gear pieces(?)
not level 90 gear
it says its comparable to current gear
yeah
Pretty sure it’s new pieces with new component
yeah
But same lvl
They wouldn’t drop that b4 region 3 anyway
w8, aint this will conflicted more with surtr rot lol
its really looks like surtr skill lol
you issue tbh.
No biggy.
There's a hundred more indicatior than just a bright red flash.
new bp weapons
Holy shit auto full energy and health HOLY SHIT
i see a 5s angle
let’s GO
maybe even lower
4s fatso lol
has infliction and timestop, combo is ez trigger for 3spam again

my bro will literally not move
welp, at least no need to spank rhod to charge ulti anymore lol
yeah, food buff become more potent lol
u can reattempt it more often
I love how he told everyone to stop being sanity-less idiots running around collecting every Owl node daily & that once your base is maxed you don't need the resource. 
yeah lmao
i gotta watch all of ts when i can
Players complain factory simulations too long
Add skip simulation
patch later
Add medal for manually doing all factory simualations
Is this ragebait.
10 free limited pulls 
who let them cook this dogass heat phys mf
well that was
ember
dissapointing
IM MAD

IM ANGRY
the rest is cool
STRAIGHT RAGING
she only does heat infliction via ult
at most shes a wulfgard sidegrade probably
potentially gilberta on yvonne but im not sure she's better than gilb
Sanity discount is limited
last rite i dont think wants her anyway
And quite heavily
im a little baffled on these kits
Isn't it alesh on yvone?
hmm yes, the bug area lol
i dont think either of them are replacing anything
who let them cook on the units
Elaborate
huh???
only if the rotation can manage the sp, which i dont think it can looking at tangtang
We have the kit alr?
Did they show what the weapon sigs do

Bug area?
only as much as was revealed in the stream
or video, rather
we have the kits
Is tangtang like a cryo wulf?
but not the numbers
out of bond zipline, u can reach dat area already
oh ok they REALLY want Yvonne users to get her ig what the fuck is this
no lmao
I tried and I didn't
They all feel kinda lackluster tbh.
Cleaning shit event 
rossi is for a heat physical hybrid. a team with no payoff or incentive to run
oh shit zhuang
Mobile bidet
BRUH Soup seems broken as a support
is not better than current options in either team and doesnt even fully work in either team
who would you even run in a heat phys hybrid team bro
tangtang is just not doing anything valuable other than personal damage, really
I hope tangtang works w Last Rite

She might become the incentive
Woah woah woah woah wait
Tangtang has fucking domain expansion infinite void?!??
what the FUCK?
domain expansion: lackluster kits
based on what we've seen it sure isnt the incentive
She has combo cryo appli on easy proc wdym
it doesnt apply infliction, it's like pure damage
this is the new best 1.1 team guys trust
It sets up a whirlpool for personal damage and for susc application on battle skill though
it does make sense lol
theres cuprium components are we cooked
maybe their talents are cooking, or their numbers are straight powercreep
She will find it hard to fit on LR teams because those teams are already SP heavy as fck
no its just side grade gear with new stat lines
the numbers have to be insane for them to be worth it
leakers leaking rossi being nature in shambles
i just dont see how its better than gilb
i cant picture it unless the numbers are that good
you run gil tangtang
It doesn’t look like it is honestly
bruh, dat strong leader pic
Rossi being a PHY guard is an interesting choice?
But maybe the weapon has some serious punch behind it
Tangtang doesn’t eat cryo stacks at all
So who knows
Might be damn solid
so we doubling
Haha
TangTang being an Ice Caster though is great news for Laevatain / Yvonne enjoyers.
its genuinely so baffling
ards getting benched in lr btw
in speed and normal runs surely
rip my M3 bs ardelia
yippie
WAIT
apart from the units the patch looks like a banger
Rossi is weird
TT can stop bosses mid animation?
It’s not solidification
hifu, trust new yinglung
Her ult is straight up fk u don’t get to run

real
Huh
TangTang’s ultimate can CC bosses
Tangtang kinda look ass
that… has applications
so tangtang is first then rossi
See, Rossi is physical. Told yall nerds not believing me.
Is it just me?
Her ult cc bosse

btw the pysical gear will get fucked lol
Can stall for stagger
they only mentioned 1 tang passive fuck
chen replacement ?? (rossi)
Also why the fuck r we getting red gear alr?
One is whirlpools slow (useless)
Other is enhancement to ultimate if you dive attack
tbf
she's a bit of both
red ore was in the game in cbt1
Isn't this way too early? The difficulty hasn't even ramped up enuf to justify its release
lmao no
bruh? poncho as well
Yeah but i was assuming it'd be here when the game get harder
they stated its at the same level as what we have rn
side grades not higher tier
Not now
That's a nice QoL, some of the operators for example Ember would really like to be using the CR set, but all the subs & stats in that set are literally no use to her. So adding more pieces to various sets is a big W.
OHHHHH good
whats redeemer again even
They also said the 2nd talent no?
ult dive applies stack tho
then what team is for rossi
Holy
stample?
Actual use for Yvonne
Phew, cos i'd hate to reatifice rite away
fuck knows its baffling
physical and heat combined
heat phys hybrid team
it makes no sense
She as a character is assigned to physical striker, like I said. Idc if she does some heat in her kit. Akekuri is a heat character, but has some phys in her kit.

lmao
unless rossis numbers are insanely high
I feel like tangtang's only gonna be good for yvone for the cc
redeemer seals getting a build
oh well
is actually fire
shes not going to be doing anything
they try to merge phys and art into 1 ?
more part fodder
hmm, aint those bird dat can make ur op cant dodge

Yall need to actually try the character b4 calling specific comps useless lmao
oh 2nd talent is for ult
Like
k
What build?
Let’s see it in action
yeah its so weird
Damn bros
dawg heat/physical is useless
OH FUCK
1.1 is introducing a redeemer set bonus
Useless so far
...she's a guard 
unless rossis numbers are insane
jack of all trade, master of none 
Ayo wtf
its useless thats what im saying and what will happen
Suzuran
what if its ult gain set bonus
that opens up new lines for us
that would be good
cupprum needed water?
oh mb, regardless shes phys
man i was so hopeful for wolf girl daughter
needed it in cbt1 if i remember correctly
Suzuran meta trust
I mean, I guess it's a good thing she doesn't replace my Chen but I legit don't know how we're gonna teambuild this
Just gotta wait for suzuran

Yeah fuck that lmfao
ember mains are going to rejoice at baiting everyone
ong lmfao
Solo rossi crit fishing 
into thinking ember rossi is good
welp, its fun i guess, more clusterfuk setup lmao
though I will say Rossi does look FUN with the multiple sequences thing
guys ember is T0.5 now trust me rossi is cooking
She does look fast
it does looks good at 1st glance
I'll look into the kit deeper l8r i guess
yeah she looks fun and animations look cool
but the team comp
animations? fire, they cooked
what is she for
holy tangtang yvonne sp
Rossi?
actual kit? rossi is lmfao
tangtang looks cool im just not sure if its good with current dps
i guess that a good thing too since i want to roll tangtang
Ngl am disappointed
They’re tryna kill monotype focus teams with rossi I suppose
Rossi: they call her 007
0 useful teams
0 sense making in her kit
7 cool af animations
what does rossi even do
1 cyro for 1 bs
1 cyro for ult
art sus iirc
Yall gotta stop shitting on stuff when we have no numbers
She feels like an extremely potent ult bot subdps ngl
Her combo skill is easy to trigger, her ult allows her to apply susc and infliction as well as CC
branch physical and heat teams together in a poor way
Pray their weapon at least good
look at the video and it shows her kit
devs wants us to run gilberta + rossi in phys team
rossi looks so cooked
Are we getting her
When do we get monster dew lightning
aka what gilb does for yvonne already and what last rite doesnt really need
no its rossi and tangtang
@outer ermine hmm, lr xaihi tangtang ake?
yeah I'm watching the stream and I'm so confused
would be nice to kick alesh out of the team
No wait rossi is a phys team dude. Her ult will proc combo skill of the bat
Rossi or Rpg pirate
she wont buff as much as xaihi
eats sp instead of generating it like alesh
So the competition is with gilberta
they're different
why are my big skill boys blue
ugh, I bet people will fill the 40k hole with waste water
why are they blue HG
Tangtang? It's mire like 2 cryo for 1 bs n 1 cs. The ult i don't think give cryo?
Wrf is that
the ult give afyer u plunge
I’m thinking that perhaps she won’t need to battle skill at all - it’s not required to get her susc
Depends on her numbers at the end of the day as well as her signature weapon effect. It IS a detonate weapon type I’m expecting it to be good

tldr for tangtang and rossi? which teams are they for?
Plunge give cryo?
tang tang for cryo team
rossi is like phys + heat hybrid
Huh... That may make her not bad in lr team replacing ardelia
tldr: maybe cryo and nothing good atm
Tantang cyro timestop ulti 
you have to use her talent to get them via ult yes
no rossi slander
watch the vid again, i saw clearly no bs skill, just ult and then either wait or plunge to end the ult effect early and get a cyroninfliction
rossi is trying to be phy heat hybrid with no real good phys heat in the game besides her
but then that requires a sufficiently cheap ult compared to gilberta ult
Yall
which based on the datamine of her weapon is not happening
Rossi could make Gil usable for Phys
Bs give cryo inflict when whirl hit enemy
Yep yep. It’s possible for an ult only angle since her combo skill is quite easy to activate
And yeah hmm it’s a thought at least
usable yes
good no
im already using gil in my phys team 
replace 2 good units for 2 bad ones to stack even slower
it might be cinema
Cs deploys one more whirl for total of 2 stack. We dk how long the cd is tho. It might be fluorite 2.0
Fangyi Supremacy

I think if tantang's weapon is great for supporting, she might have a place replacing ardelia in lr team
we got the stats already?
She uses a sword
peak

Maybe Rossi does stupid ball dmage 
Not yet, that's why i was saying
datamine exists for the essence, aligns with her kit > its not a support weapon
Fangyi Dps meta trust
ok now is that a normal sword or a big one
Not a sup weapon? Trash then
@drifting quest Double check this one for me
I’m looking at Rossi battle skill section… she gains ultimate energy twice? On hit with the additional enhanced battle skill hits it also gives ult energy?
100%
That looks like a big sword
I lean toward short sword
i cant imagine fangyi using a greatsword
Just make her use telekinesis to swing it around
Yea
No changes to my endmin comp?!
Converitng afflictions into vunls

YALL IN GAME MAIL 1K OROS
That's quite impactful for fitting operators
thats 2 pulls
LOGIN AND CLAIM WOOOOOO
enhanced version has extra energy yes
Yeah, its probably gonna be a normal sword tbf
But I bet fangyi ult is gonna do the most dmg
Now I’m excited! I love battery comp
is there like a fraction of a chance rossi can be used with pog
it'll be just to herself, same as all other sources
usable? yes
good? no
argh ah well
man
Claimed no good without having numbers
ragebait harder next time
weak
@drifting quest @bronze plume These 2 are bait fr. Nothing but the blind yapping
rossi sounds like a jack of all trades
dawg physical/heat is already useless
rossi is not making it on par with what we have now
Endmin prevails
unless her numbers are cracked
Ehhh? Nobody seen her infliction into vunl being useful?
Hmm, 2 stacks of vuln on combo skill if you have an infliction
Hm if tangtang's ult gib energy, obj mite do well w her if her weapon suck lmaoo
she does not function in existing physical or fire teams

Yea that's quite good
Gil or estella w rossi i suppose
Ehh? What about Gilberta + Rossi ?
Inflictions aren’t cheap to do however which is kinda annoying. It’s around the same level as Chen rn
you have to put her into some kinda physical heat combo
Man, what an odd team
Chen better
hmm now im unsure, like if you have 3 whirlwind, then if you ult then its 3 immediate cyro inf or sth hmm
you have to exchange 2 units out of physical for worse options
For current physical team ngl

tangtang in nutshell
Dumb dragon better than sassy wolf i guess

tianshi zhuang holding a sword........ sus
tangtang has more cookery to her
Removing either pog lifeng chen who do you remove lmao
@edgy crater u gettin any?
what?
i definitely think tangtang has good potential for cryo
Tang or rossi
Tangtang would be a beast main dps
Main dps?
huh she is mdps
i dont think she makes it into speedrun stuff
but general content she should be nice
probably whale a bit, dat rossi p3 funny but tantang cc kinda good
I see Rossi as good puzzle for putting non phys into crush
tangtang is more like yvonne slave
She seems better for farming than mdps ngl
if tangtang has good personal dps I think she'll be cracked
Like that single thing makes her puzzle piece
i think she's more like support for cryto
Rest is numbers and other operators
to make rossi useable you basically gut physical and heat and slap her in to it
maybe, im mapping rhod speedkill in my head rn
technically yeah lol, its basically yvonne bs as op
Do we have stat for the weapons?
Nevertheless i could care less since endmin comp still intact
Okay, from where you go that split DMG types ruins Rossi?
i might get tangtang for solo runs
looks fun
essences were datamined, might change, but nothing official
true
but im still thinking on how to fit rossi into endmin comp
@static pewter now we wait for the new aethertech set xd
hey @drifting quest I figured it out
Rossi fits in shatter phys as a Chen replacement. You simply have to eat the cyro infliction into solidify after you trigger Rossi combo skill. With perfect timing I think you should still get 1 vuln
i see the vision guys
zhuang fanyi will be an arts/phys hybrid who will save rossi and have her and gilberta as bis trust
From the preview we've gotten it seems TangTang & LR work really nicely together. With Yvonne you need to swap back to her during her ult. Still glad I have been working on my Ice team during the background now.
Hm... I was just wondering abt the weapon effect
You cannot based on her kit
trying to jump though hoops to force rossi is like
i dont get it

possible rossi hypercarry?
You gonna remove all buffs that you can get for your physical comp
It doesn't. The preview wasn't using the best lr team
i mean it'll probably work
unless her multipliers are massively overtuned i don't get how it'll be better than what we have rn though
she's meant to be the dps payoff for hybrid yeah but it just looks miserable
man they fucked up rossi so bad
her damage type is split so you cant even buff her
Rossi allows to use suports that aren't doing vunl but inflictions
It doesn’t, no, but making something work out of something that shouldn’t is a fun dopamine thing for brain for me.
Like jank decks in card games, there is an allure haha
I haven't watched dev log, and have really no time to. Can you summarize it for me😭
Cant even buff teammates too
pog to buff her normal stuff? doesnt buff her ult
It uses the "stack as much cryo as possible" lr team which is not exactly the best one atm
We don't know what the best LR team is when TangTang drops so it's kind of irrelevant to discuss that rn.
ok so we'll run like gilb to buff her ult? doesnt buff the rest of her kit
yvonne got more slave

Red gear stuff incoming basically upgrades for current gear set lots of qol
We know what the best lr team of rn is and it doesn't include fluorite
untill we get actually kit designed hybrid phys/heat character rossi is just sitting on the burner
seems to be the best one at that
She has no team at the moment 100%, 1000%. But she’s cute as hell and looks awesome to play so I’m seeing what’s possible
Its probably best to wait for the full kit cause uh
Before I make a judgement
they didnt reveal that much
could be 3 cyro infliction in the ult tangtang if i understand it right
i mean if you aren't exactly a TC'er (you're in the TC channel) the kits are definitely fun and unique
i dont necessarily have a problem with kits like this
but im here under the scope of tc where her kit is frankly really questionable
shit i hate tangtang but she's cryo and looking better than rossi now 
Also @static pewter dont bother with tangtang or rossi if you commited to phys team hahaha they wont do anything for our team
It seems good for cycling lr ult but what is ult without proper buffs
Yvonne teams receiving their 3rd limited character back to back to back.
rossi got her 4 skills revealed
tangtang got 4 skills + a passive
but 0 numbers as of now
Okay, so is it Additional per infliction or additional if there is infliction?
Why is she so expensive lmao
SAME MAN, I WANNA PULL ROSSI

waiting for the 4th limited one 
so expensive to be a fraction of last rite
cryo otw getting 1 team full limited lol
they didnt reveal weap passives either right or did they
mightve missed it
Honestly yvone main might be cooked
Not yet
Cool, but until we get TangTang's kit I'm not that interested in the discussion. The other thing I did find interesting about TangTang though is the ability to effectively stop enemies in their tracks from moving. Seems maybe a little broken wonder if it'll work on bosses.
That's what i was askin
They said it works on bosses
Fair enuf
They literally said it works on bosses
Oh no I agree. She doesn’t look like her kit meshes well or has great synergy with existing units, and seems to be quite an SP hog. That’s so bad for this game
However, I disagree that theorycrafting has to be optimising the optimal teams. Theorycrafting around suboptimal characters is still valid theorycrafting > TC is to maximise, we just simply have different starting conditions and bounds
how cope is rossi looking for a laev team lmao
her passive increases heat dmg taken guys trust 
So kind of early Zhongli vibes hu.
It was shown to work on bosses, seems pretty op, specially for Yvonne and it pretty much solves Yvonne ult duration issue.
I'm gonna cry if there's new endmin nuke set😭😭😭
hmm, chen incident lol @chilly bolt
Yea except useful

I’m gonna crill myself
I think so
Is the sanity extractors permanent?
i havent watched the devlog, is tang tang physical?
I feel like tangtang's ult is specifically made to answer ppl' complaints abt yvone's ult needing her to not move
Why?
Cyro caster
cyro
It's no SP vunl X2
I’m just hoping the bp substitute weapons are at least slightly decent
Tangtang cryo
NOONOOOO
Also they didn't show the stats on the weapons or what they do
Hahahahahaha you build a new team for hee then
good for LR and Yvonne teams
I NEED TANG TANG WTH
Never said that
i play phys team
TC is optimising anything, be them good teams or bad teams
but the issue you have is that if you try to optimise a bad team eventually you just hit a point of 'man i could just play the good team'
different people will have different experiences of where they are happy to stop of course and i can definitely be hyperbolic in some statements at times
We dk abt the lr one, but yvone most likely
Wrong reply
Endmin mono physical wont be replaced anytime soon thats my take
It has nothing to do with complaints. 1.0 has no solid foundation for teams yet and were now slowly getting into synergies. This patch was made ages ago and ready to launch for a while. They dont make the next patch when the current one is live.
Don't recommend tang on lr until we know her full kit
but a lot of people will treat me saying 'its fine to tc bad teams' as them being free to suggest objectively bad stuff as advice
Guess i'll just save pulls
I don’t like fat girls
Theyre probably already working on 1.5 or something.
tangtang apply tons of infliction(prolly base on the current info), so shatter maybe work
wdym Last Rite is perfect
I just hope we can convert our lv 70 gear to the new one
Yall they’re closing the username sending to space irl event soon
otherwise it's cooked
Fair. But it is just their answer to Yvonne issue of not wanting to move during ult eitherway.
Go add yours asap
Did they announce lvl90 gear?
no, new pieces for existing sets + 1 or 2 new sets
they showed us red gear?
SLANDER WILL NOT BE TOLERATED
T3 versions of same sets
Upgrades on current set?
I meant announce
Glad I can skip both 1.1 characters 
I know, but saying its them doing it bc of complaints is wrong, hence why I corrected it.
tbf, no one prevents people to optimize bad teams in tc, but people will prefer to calculate for optimal team instead, so if someone want to optimize bad team, they can do it themselves if no one didnt optimize it yet
Misping
Mhm. Well, I’m not like “LOL SHATTER PHYS IS OPTIMAL”
Really I’m just noting that she doesn’t kill the comp immediately with her infliction eating (why does she eat the infliction wtf), like one would think at first, so maybe it’s worth looking further at the possibility haha
Will it be lvl 70?
but people like to be spoonfed (me included)
kill it no, as ive said a couple time its playable, not good
Yeah, fair
No idea but
which is the general logic
yeah we're so cooked
yes
oh hell nah
Damn new calculations needed
rossi and tang tang both banners 
redeemer seals has a 3p set bonus now
But yeah, now my saving are kinda fck, was not expecting to pull for both banners next version. Also Fangyi showing on 1.2 preview makes me think she's getting her banner right after Rossi
no they are separate
Is it tangtang first, Rossi second half?
yes
yeah i meant banners for 1.1
They upgraded gear pieces? Not sure
Ty
Hmm maybe rossi is supposed to be for shatter team? Lol
we only get 2 units per patch now
Sidegrade

she buffs physical and heat dmg and does heat infliction
they said in stream they are on par with current top level gear so they are level 70 side grades
I still don't get where they're going with Rossi though, why would you want to turn arts inflictions into vun stacks. Are they trying to get her Ember synergy or something. Even if they are why two guards on the same team. 
So still level 70?
so 1.1 next week right? 
so shes meant for physical heat which just doesnt exist
March 12th
W8 buff heat dmg?
For now yeah we expected this
I believe, frontiers already have t3
yes, both phys and heat
T4 then lmao
Oh ok thanks
Chen skill + combo, Gilb ultimate+ Rossi combo, that's 4 vunl at cost of one SP and one ultimate
Rossi is creating her own archetype within physical teams
Man... Why they doin rossi like this
Low damage output
oh next next 
The new gear doesn’t look complicated enough to be lvl 90
probably lv 80 but u upgrade lvl 70 gear pieces im assmuing
Not over designed enough
Do we know the new gear stats?
Am just gonna wait for rossi solo main
Lowest SP cost per 4vunl I'm aware of
no mention of that

is there any way to force yvonne, lr, and tangtang in one team 
ok but you no longer have lifeng or pog on the team to do this
so no suscept, no personal damage, no breach, no sp regen
you gain
rossi + gilb personal damage
rossi phys damage taken
Okay thank you whoever emote answers everything
Maybe if you make a new team with rossi as main dps could work
yes but it wont be optimal
same as always
I’m 90% some of the new gear will be crit dmg to help out Rossi crit builds
sure ig
noone gonna eat the vulns then 
yvonne, lr, tangtang, and xaihi/gilb 
We don't know numbers yet
She showed in 1.0 too, but we didnt get her in 1.1
Did they show the kit?
Who's gonna be fourth on this team tho
Yall pulling at straws bro
kits yeah, numbers no
no LR in that team lol

Yeah if its endmin its gonna be super low dps output
And who’s Rossi again?
We don't know even cooldown for combo skill
heat physical hybrid dps
The m1s maybe
oh

emotional support 
Tysm
The loli
char wise she's red riding hood
I know that T_T
Shes a kid
ur team would be gilb xaihi tangtang yvonne
yvonne slave 
Oh right, at least tangtang just make lr 100% obsolete in yvone team
Fair nough
Even Rossi's team preview is straight up cursed. Wtf is she doing in a team with Wulguard / Endmin / Akekuri 
plz learn what a loli is shes just a child
No more ppl recommending lr on yvone if it wasn't alr apparent
the only way I see Rossi working potentially is if her enhanced battle skill MV is just like incredible with crit and signature weapon. She needs to be able to use it often if she is to get the energy she needs to ult a lot and get the infliction she needs to combo skill
is this vanguard or striker + greatsword?
she also for last rite team 
Loli is anyone underaged
Tangtang has unique appeal in being able to full cc bosses with her ult

physical sword guard
sigh...
And it cannot be cancelled
1h sword phys guard
It’s guard
kinda hard tbh, unless bringing back ake but dat mean ditching perlica as well
Usually these type of important character get their banner once we get close to the regions story climax, 1.0 only introduced her to us.
wish i can put her in phys team to replace my akekuri
really want to keep lr as yvonne’s cryo inflictor but tangtang’s time stop ult is so tempting 
shuo what if when we wake up they say early april fools and its not actually rossis kit they can do it right? right?
1.2 seems to be very pack with 2 more areas and a new pac so it's possible
Time stop ult is huge for speed trimms tbh
Pausing to stagger is massive
maybe I stop saving my Arsenal tickets and just grab Khrav lmfao
That would be the better argument than saying she appears in the preview of 1.2 so shes probably getting a banner

well for multiple rotations it seems like tangtang will do better than perlica
what the name of horseman boss on elden ring again?
plus the whirlpools looks fun
plz right she can replace ake its right there
Akekuri is a vanguard, a guard doesn’t replace your only vanguard
yeah, its lean to spam cs
Oh thats TangTang's brother
tree sentinels?
Yall are doomers
ah yeah lol
i have Endmin, Pog, Chen and Akekuri
Let the chara get tested out first
you're in a TC channel

yeah because rn for cryo inflict we have flourite so this is a huge upgrade
That’s fair
Ahh I see
Yeah unless Rossi is straight up making the PHY team 50% stronger by existing I'm skipping her. Literally nobody was asking for a PHY guard that needs to absorb arts inflictions. 
You come into this channel to take info from the tcers but have the audacity for saying theyre doomers for doing tc.
The fuck
but dat mean, current lr set will be near useless
Nothing but imaginary numbers for new characters in the channel that runs numbers
or like alesh 1 cyro per ult per rot
Honestly, she looks rly nice for farming.... I might get her just for that...


yeah, id pull for Rossi if she fits
Bro believes gameplay over waifu
maybe that mean the new one will be good 
i dont see the issue in the statement 'there is nothing i can see that makes this character work optimally unless the remainder of her kit (talent 2, numbers, weapon) are severely overtuned'
Tangtang gil for farming prolly 1 tap all the small mob in the overworld rn in 1 bs 1 cs

you still lose out on Breach and phys sus so like 
There ain’t no tc here without any numbers. I need dmg values, multipliers, cooldowns

trust they gonna make rossi talent something like sakiko's talent
yeah, this boss fight looks fun
Hoping mi fu is a good replacement for wulfgard or akekuri in laeva team 
no shit, are they available now, no, can tcers get a good indication from their kits, yes
time to learn how to dodge
unless u do tc urself
Same my endmin prevails!
pog speed dash win again ? to cut times in ball chase phase
most likely yeah lol
dont speak as if theyre dumb for dooming lmao
maybe lol
pogchamp
Yall be spamming dash praying for a dodge to happen

I just think it’s funny lmao.
am i delulu in thinking i can get 80 pulls from now until before Tangtang banner ends
I got screwed over from choosing to pull for Gilberta and waiting for (nonexistant) tangtang info bruh this is so ass
i hope tangtang’s sig is not that great so i can at least skip that 
the faster u catch the ball, the faster the boss exit rage phase
They’ve not even had an hour to think about it and the doom is alr setting in
based on what we can see there's some hypothetical alternatives yes
hate they didn't show any of the weapon stats
Imma buy the 388 oro pack just so I can guarantee both banners rip
i mean Rossi opens up a lot more team potential
Pulling cos both are cute hehe
Of course any new operator does

we can already expect Rossi's is crit based at least
yay. just have to wait till next next week then 
Btw, was the charted ticket from the stream sth we gonna get or were they talkin abt the one we got when we first played?
