theorycrafting

[dry mason]

btw

[midnight stirrup]

Stop talking to Hifumi

[dry mason]

I need to upgrade Yvonne to max gear

[midnight stirrup]

Thats my boyfriend

[dry mason]

To make Yvonne LR clip

[midnight stirrup]

[dry mason]

Wdym

He loves me

[midnight stirrup]

He loves women

[dry mason]

You see the way he said " shinoooooooooooooo" right ?

[midnight stirrup]

I am women

[dry mason]

No space for you

[midnight stirrup]

[dry mason]

no you gay

[midnight stirrup]

Say that to our dms

[dry mason]

[midnight stirrup]

Bro kissed me goodnight and tucked me in

Did he do that for u

Nooooo

[dry mason]

Too much gay

[midnight stirrup]

Im a girl

[outer ermine]

[dry mason]

does LR really need p3

I might have to pull standard banner to get p3

[outer ermine]

just depends on what ur going for tbh

p0s are doing just fine w some luck

[dry mason]

I cooked Yv LR rot

Fun to play

[outer ermine]

[dry mason]

But im lacking DMG

[outer ermine]

dream team believer

[midnight stirrup]

Nah

[dry mason]

Need to upgrade basic attacks lines

[midnight stirrup]

Its just a dps increase its not that big

[dry mason]

next restock

i heard it's like

15%?

[midnight stirrup]

Yea thats nothing

[dry mason]

this week gear upgrade kinda unlucky for me

[midnight stirrup]

Unless u going for profile art

I wouldnt bother and let it happen naturally

[dry mason]

Only 4 lines maxed with full stock

[midnight stirrup]

Cooked

Its okay luck will come ur way

Last Rite has decided

[dry mason]

But I got Yv on first 10 pulls

[midnight stirrup]

You are worthy

[dry mason]

With 1 Ember bonus

[outer ermine]

same, i got 2 lines maxed

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/last-rite-takdes-endfield-takdes-endfield-endfield-meme-gif-10341933687894183164

[dry mason]

[midnight stirrup]

My headcannon is Yvonne LR ship

[dry mason]

Im still waiting Rossie to be Fire vanguard

Im so itching to play Laevatain

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/yvonne-arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-photo-gif-17216476380921208765

Laevatain is boring ash

[dry mason]

wdym boring

swordmen never boring

actually

this week i got 4 lines max

and 1 line at lv1

[outer ermine]

i wanna play yvonne, to experience good crits

[elfin smelt]

does that mean LR's crits are bad crits

[outer ermine]

u seen wut ive been working on past few weeks btw im finally critfishing for it

[elfin smelt]

game also blessed me with yvonne but dijiang slaves priority comes first xd

[outer ermine]

its so good u can crit multiple ways

[midnight stirrup]

Good crits just to reach half of what ur hitting on lr

[outer ermine]

[odd wren]

Endmin still my numbawan

[steel hedge]

how many int do i need with xaihi?

[odd wren]

1200

[steel hedge]

oh god

[chilly bolt]

.lastrite

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1470984963016097802/last-rite-takdes.gif?ex=698d4900&is=698bf780&hm=de9cb77fcafdb6cfc5d0901496d9e7ad0b9c81487d6ae671310a03f4218d9bb6&=&width=548&height=274

[chilly bolt]

oh god

[elfin smelt]

from what I know it's unreachable as of now

just do your best ig

unless there's food to buff stats

[olive mauve]

this harder to find than one piece

[outer ermine]

only +15

[elfin smelt]

just use detector brochacho

[olive mauve]

I used 15 of them.

In different locations

none of them detected it

now i don't have any

[midnight stirrup]

The blind leading the blind

[elfin smelt]

uhhhh

detector works on the entire area no?

unless they've found it but you missed

[olive mauve]

in valley iv only i think

[elfin smelt]

give us the entire map, maybe someone with good eyes can help

[olive mauve]

since when i used it in wuling in the PAC it didnt detect it and when i changed like locations on the other side of the map it detected the other chests

[elfin smelt]

maybe in post that in #help too

[olive mauve]

Aight

[steel hedge]

what buffs better? chiv cirtues or detonation unit? assuming both procs

[steel hedge]

i see, i have 484 rn with some artificing

[elfin smelt]

what's this Im seeing

[chilly bolt]

about the same

but depends on situation

[olive mauve]

AINT NO WAY

[elfin smelt]

bro wasted 15 detectors

[chilly bolt]

one can be better or worse

[elfin smelt]

lmao congrats on your last +15

[steel hedge]

noted tyty

[chilly bolt]

did you just use the detector and then look away bruh, it has animation and move the camera all that stuff to inform you

[olive mauve]

uhh maybe

i got called alright what was i supposed to do😔

[elfin smelt]

forget life getting oros is top priority 😔

[chilly bolt]

the big difference is chivalric has better uptime since it procs on every xaihi heal while deto procs only on combo, so the longer the fight the more value chiv can get

[olive mauve]

i was here like 4 times HOW DID I NOT SEE IT

[unreal light]

What's your best Avy / Perl / Ake / Gilb rotation?

[open hare]

Weewoo

[terse valley]

@summer floweranswer me coward

[chilly bolt]

why doesnt this use p0 sig for the baseline ?

[olive mauve]

Finally it was worth it...

[pulsar sail]

Quantity can also allow you to hide
I used detectors to find the last 15-13 crates
Right now I'm using a mapping tool to locate any missed white fragements and intel collectables.

[gritty olive]

because like no one has p5 umbral

so i put it at p0 start

[chilly bolt]

I mean isnt it usually p0 sig is the standard

[drifting quest]

people understand +% gains better than -% losses

plus holdover from other gacha tc communities

plus just personal preference for who makes the calcs

endfield tc has fuck all standards to follow because nothing is consistent

[chilly bolt]

Btw if im gonna M9 laevatin should i do combo or basic, from the sheet it says combo>basic but the table is basic -6% while combo is -4%

[drifting quest]

combo is situationally useful for the 1s reduction
basic is effectively useless to mastery because the only thing you maybe care about is finisher multiplier but you'd rather align stagger with your ult than get a finisher out of it so the times where you actually hit a finisher are rare enough to make mastery an expensive waste

neither are particularly worth it

damage gap is near negligable over a long run, combo skill cd reduction is mitigated if you mess it up anyway, etc

[wanton notch]

So we still dont have best sets for DPS perlicia calcs, right?

[drifting quest]

there's several choices right now correct

none are a clear winner yet

[wanton notch]

None of them are Mi Set I assume?

[drifting quest]

one is crit perlica yes

crit, pulser, tide surge and bonekrusha

less so the latter

tide surge is only a thing in hyper

crit exists in some speedrun non boss clears

[wanton notch]

Hmm, I wodner what best for solo DPS

[drifting quest]

solo dps is an entirely different beast

[wanton notch]

I think between Tide Surge or Crit for solo dps

[drifting quest]

There's LP's calc now so should divert to a lot more calcs

[wanton notch]

I will wait but for now I Will think for this for solo

[distant python]

crit perlica

[unreal light]

Im doing electric team, imma calculate one for you this evening

[wanton notch]

❤️

[distant python]

i think i will run crit gloves

on perlica as a subdps in electric team

since my perlica is already on oblivion

thats like 60% crit rate on ult pre food buff

[unreal light]

Unfo, pulser gloves is the only way to get electric% with somewhat mainstat

[distant python]

maybe kit then

ill check

[eternal ruin]

for phys team: what's more important, support essences or masteries?

err they're probably both important

but what should i spend stamina on first

[drifting quest]

define support in this instance

[unreal light]

M1 ult and Battle skill for Pog matters more than his essence

[midnight stirrup]

Probably LR rn but idk

[distant python]

As long has you have max flow essence you good

[wanton notch]

I meant best build for solo dps Perli

[midnight stirrup]

Oh mb

[drifting quest]

uge (if needed, eg fortmaker) = pog m1 ult, bs for sp > lifeng skill m3, pog essence (thermite, nr skill line) > dps essences > key dps masteries

should be roughly accurate sanity priority

[eternal ruin]

thanks chief

[warped sinew]

how come i barely placed it and it already has 19 repairs

[eternal ruin]

if it's at an alluvium, then people must have found it useful

[warped sinew]

it is, but what i mean is how that fast already 19 repairs

[chilly bolt]

It was me, i just repaired it

[outer ermine]

[warped sinew]

[pulsar sail]

I have a theory that it gets fixes if its placed on the exact location of another shared building.

[summer flower]

Its in farming spot for stamina use?

This week I had like 14 stamina juices to use

[dry kindle]

@drifting quest https://warfarin.wiki/en/gear

[warped sinew]

well, it was barely placed and kinda hard to belive its that, cuz all towers got repairs

[dry kindle]

🗿

[pulsar sail]

like is the player count really that high? I mean when I placed down electron pylons to to place turrets to farm the Alluvium site in the Science park, half of them immediately had repairs right after I put them down which confused the heck out of me. I doubt so many people repaired them that fast.

[drifting quest]

gg rip prydwen's only benefit right now

[proud vector]

We understand so little about how shared buildings work tbh

What decides what appears? No clue

[warped sinew]

then i guess its hard to explain for now

[proud vector]

holy shit actually accurate redeemer’s seal artificing stats

Sugoi

[drifting quest]

has bias to first friend structures then randoms
bias to structures with high rating (commonly used)
outside of that it's pure random quota

memo beacons get a bias too iirc

[proud vector]

Yeah but I’m assuming there is also some algorithm that avoids too many structures of the same type in an area etc

A ton of background processes and algorithms that are very hard to scratch

Not really need to be understood tbh

[drifting quest]

its like only for ziplines

which wont put another too close

memo beacons too i guess but that's less of the case

[ashen scroll]

What i know about this that they spawn atleast 2 zipline from the same player

[drifting quest]

not always

but it tries to have a connection

[proud vector]

I’ve never seen more than 1 turret at an avu

Have any of you?

[drifting quest]

ive seen multiple yeah

not side by side

there's a small gap

but you can come across multiple at the same alluvium if at opposite sides

[proud vector]

:0

[drifting quest]

isnt particularly common though

[proud vector]

Never came across that personally haha

[drifting quest]

and i never get any at all period now since i have my own turrets

[proud vector]

Good to know

[ashen scroll]

And some of them is not from your friend

[drifting quest]

i think there's like

in the files you can reverse engineer the methodology

id have to look at the datamine doc again

[ashen scroll]

I hope we can disable it

[proud vector]

Idk, could be server sided too partially

Anything particularly interesting in the datamine document?

[ashen scroll]

Its annoying when u set up zipline neatly then blue icon appear , i hate choice

[proud vector]

Like hidden systems etc that you would never understand from gameplay alone

[drifting quest]

not really

there's some stuff for future units but its likely just gonna change

[proud vector]

Yeah that usually goes through a lot more development before launch anyways

[ashen scroll]

Is datamine stuff talk allowed? Isnt it similiar to leak

[proud vector]

Unreliable

Prooobably not so let’s shift

[ashen scroll]

[drifting quest]

if ||rossi and tangtang stuff|| is 1.1 and aligns with datamines in the stream tomorrow then maybe there's credit to consider it as real

[drifting quest]

yes as long as any actual datamined content is spoiler tagged, and its only from official public files

[proud vector]

Aye, but trusting datamine stuff to not change last minute is a fool’s gamble haha

[drifting quest]

10. Avoid discussing illicit topics.
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[proud vector]

Oh cool that’s laxer rules than I expected

Though, we can glean a lot of information from the weapons tbh

[drifting quest]

im coping at least ||rossi's is changed||

[proud vector]

Eh, I think she’s fine, but then again I am Laevless lol

I’m just hoping for a more non-standard play pattern with more buttons for dopamine

[drifting quest]

||i just dont want critslop to become the norm||

[proud vector]

More towards Arclight battery comps than the standard burst heavy stuff we have going

[drifting quest]

||2 dedicated crit carries in the first 2 versions when endfield has a good thing going by being unique and not just 'build crit on every dps'||

isnt promising to me

[ashen scroll]

Crit is so lazy of mechanic

[proud vector]

Hmm, I think it isn’t overwhelming yet, due to the nature of multiplicative brackets

The value of ||crit|| is a lot more diluted when you can already access multiplicative increases in other ways

[ashen scroll]

Theyre basicaly "fulfil stat condition to add extra damage"

[proud vector]

… why did I spoiler that LOL

Crit is a lot more interesting in this game since without in kit bonuses it really isn’t that efficient honestly

[ashen scroll]

I rather have they add new mechanic to it and not just crit chance stat

[proud vector]

And because we don’t have substats it’s super hard to force stack crit like in crit slop games

[ashen scroll]

For example , add enemy weak point like those shield crab thing , if you hit ita but u got crit or something like that

You know like monster hunter , add hit zone for crit

[elder skiff]

just make those spots res down, not crit

[distant python]

I don't mind crit being an option for DPS if they have synergy with it in their kit

[proud vector]

but I kinda get it. It’s still multiplicative at the end of the day. Maybe in the far future crit will rule the world

But honestly that’s a LOT of powercreep down the line for that to happen

[drifting quest]

||and yet it's looking like 40% of limited banners will be crit units, 50% if not 66% of limited dps units||

[distant python]

Also we have set gear stats, so any crit viability will be limited by the set effects and 3rd lines

[ashen scroll]

I mean its make it more obivious to player, number coloring or something

[distant python]

I would quite like there be crit buffers

[proud vector]

hmm. Though a sample size of 5 is… a bit small? If we include the standard banner guys it’s only 20% I guess…

Still pretty significant though, so yeah fair. We know nothing about 1.2+ yet so that number might drop

[elder skiff]

with the crit sets rn, you can only play crit if u get cdmg and crit rate from their kit

[distant python]

But we also need teams that use reactions for damage and not just stacking mechanics

I want arts bursting to be actual dps

Not just passive damage

[ashen scroll]

Im pretty happy with reaction and burst ngl, add those more

[distant python]

The closest we get rn is crush on physical team

[elder skiff]

i can’t rlly care much about operators’ mechanics yet when all mobs are so boring to fight

[distant python]

Maybe at some point we get a unit that can at base inflict 2 different types of infliction to have self sufficiency in proccing reactions

That would be cool

[proud vector]

Unlikely

Will end up being a forced application user most likely

[distant python]

Forced procs are kinda boring

Can't even use the stacking mechanics

To buff the forced proc a lot of the time

[proud vector]

hard to say

[ashen scroll]

We got info on weight and stuff right, they should add "push" and "pull" interaction too . . . Like we can bonk mobs into each other or wall or something

[proud vector]

that’s just Gilberta succ but worse

We have no pits of super death here

[elder skiff]

give lift fall damage

[proud vector]

Unfortunately

[elder skiff]

[distant python]

Kncodown and lift are just the same thing

Can we make them actually different pls

[proud vector]

The Jeanne special
%hp damage secret technique

[chilly bolt]

Does gil sucking even work on units with >1 and <2 weight

[distant python]

Make knockdown have more stagger

Ember is now a true stagger bot

[proud vector]

Honestly there should be a character that has bonuses on knocking down lifted enemies

Like fck, Yasuo ult from lol

[elder skiff]

enemy knocked down = more stagger dealt, basically like breach but for stagger, that would make ember more viable

[ashen scroll]

Ngl i think amber would be good if her BS are pure physical or inflicf instead

[proud vector]

Hybrid damage is always awkward

[elder skiff]

hybrid is fine for shatter, just that ember is heat and not cryo

[ashen scroll]

Currently her BS got extra damage when she took damage while casting right

[proud vector]

no Estella emotes waaaaah

[chilly bolt]

Avy dealing phys dmg on basic

[ashen scroll]

If that change from increase damage to "force knockdown" or "inflict" how good is she

[proud vector]

Man, I wonder if they will make Rossi a basic attack specialist

[ashen scroll]

[distant python]

Infliction is useless still

Force knockdown is still useless

[proud vector]

She enchants her weapon and doesn’t really do much flashy arts stuff after all

[ashen scroll]

How is that useless

[distant python]

The cc of physical skill is whatever , you just want vulnerable stacks

And Chen spams those way more easily

[proud vector]

And the stagger

The dmg is nice too

also triggers rider effects from weapons and talents and such

[distant python]

Yeah but knockdown and lift have the same stagger

[proud vector]

Honestly a ton of the system is simple base stuff that activates additional kit effects

[distant python]

Ember just gets bonus stagger on being hit

And nothing synergies with knockdown rn

At least not more than lift

[proud vector]

we don’t really talk about stuff without the context of the characters that benefit from it

[elder skiff]

ember is the least defender-like with no parry move and somehow being the 6* defender

[proud vector]

Like who is building lv 4 combustion for damage lmao? Or lv 4 shatter

it’s all in service of a character kit

[ashen scroll]

She more offtank

[distant python]

Off tank in a game genre where running even 1 sustain is usually a huge efficiency loss

[drifting quest]

ai slop

[distant python]

There isn't room in team design for an off tank

[summer flower]

Ohh

Wait but argument works

[ashen scroll]

Not everyone run 0 hit 24/7 yknow

[proud vector]

EH? Is it?

My bad if so
The meme itself is quite good so oof

[drifting quest]

yeah

[distant python]

Yeah but ember doesn't benefit enough from being hit, especially when you can still get staggered by being hit

If ember battle skill gave complete immunity to being staggered instead of resistance

Maybe it's usable

[odd wren]

Wow where to see this

[distant python]

Or if the extra stagger bar you got was massive

[drifting quest]

thats morbika's sheet

for laev

[distant python]

But getting hit for extra damage on a skill that does no damage anyway and only +5 stagger is awful

[elder skiff]

catcher does a better job at tanking than ember, he can be off field using his bs and you can just do fs without worrying about dodging

ember only does better than other defs at being a dps

[summer flower]

Wasn't that +10 stagger on base of 10?

[distant python]

Jesus it's only 10 stagger base?

This shit is ass

[summer flower]

Find me skill with more than 10 stagger

Final strike is 25

[distant python]

I wouldn't know, I don't use embers battle skill

Yeah why would I skill when I could keep basic attacking

[proud vector]

it’s not much but it’s honest work stagger

[chilly bolt]

Laevatin sheet but you gotta ask kuratine himself or try searching

[distant python]

Embers skill animation is too long and you use her as the controlled operator

[summer flower]

Ehh what?

[proud vector]

Oh right what is it’s swap priority?

[distant python]

You also build Phys damage on ember DPS so the skill does nothing since it's heat

[proud vector]

Some skills persist even if you swap characters midway, some interrupt entirely

[summer flower]

You build her like that

[drifting quest]

assuming you mean battle skill only:
laev's is 20/30 in and out of ult respectively

[proud vector]

Does Ember BS get interrupted if you swap midway?

[summer flower]

I was looking I didn't see when Searching

[drifting quest]

if you include non battle skills there are a ton

[ashen scroll]

Theyre probably in akward position to balance her , she is one of those operator that hard to balance because weird kit , and she standard too . . . There is less incentive to make her Meta

[proud vector]

Ults do decent stagger baseline yeah, in the 20’s range

[distant python]

Ember is 25 stagger

For ult

Shorter animation than battle skill at this point and also gives shield

Embers battle skill is just awful

Everything else is okay

Sundered also gives her a nice

[ashen scroll]

I dont mind the animation if they actualy do something on hit

[distant python]

Yeah but it doesn't

[unreal light]

Ban antal

[distant python]

Make knockdown useful compared to lift

Pls

[unreal light]

Ban Akekuri

[odd wren]

Oh

[ashen scroll]

That girl should never left her guns

[chilly bolt]

Ban ardelia

[summer flower]

Ohh also I tested sundered

Extra stagger isn't in buff but as effect on hit

So it's applying on on hit applying buff

[odd wren]

I want more crush dmg buffs 🙁

[unreal light]

Tangtang awaits

[proud vector]

Da Pan buffs crushes
His mass makes his crushes crush harder
(He unironically has like a what 20% damage bonus to crush via combo skill?)

[odd wren]

Sus very sus

[terse raptor]

100% will pull her if she's physical

[odd wren]

If only it wont be a main dps i will

[unreal light]

I hope she removes endmin from the team

[terse raptor]

ohh nahh i hope not

[odd wren]

I say no

[summer flower]

Ehh?

[odd wren]

[summer flower]

It was question regarding buffing crush

You don't put crush applicator that's not compatible with other one

[odd wren]

I have never seen a dapan with endmin at all

[summer flower]

It's not smart idea I heard

[ashen scroll]

Endmind main greed disgust me , there othe step child need more buff than physical team

[odd wren]

[summer flower]

Also da pan fans would scream at you some time ago if you showed that

[odd wren]

No no no, let hg make mc imbalance more

[terse raptor]

not good, both needs vuln stacks

[odd wren]

Then your endmin crush wont consume the vul stacks? Sorry dunno about dapan kits i have never use it

[proud vector]

Oh no he replaces endmin as the crush source LOL

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

They are mutually exclusive

[odd wren]

Endmin > Dapan!

[terse raptor]

agreed

[odd wren]

[terse raptor]

wait for endmin's P5

[distant python]

I like my penguin

[proud vector]

the AOE crush is nice to have for general day to day use

Just double tap the shitters in 1s

[distant python]

Also since in physical teams every does damage, endmins P2 attack buff is good

[odd wren]

Yes pengmin!

[olive mauve]

what penguinistrator doin

[terse raptor]

wow where is this from

[leaden mantle]

Does chens combo skill do any stagger or no?

[odd wren]

Tiktok xd

[terse raptor]

it does

[distant python]

Yes it staggers

[leaden mantle]

Because it applies lift?

[terse raptor]

ah yes how i missed it

[timber harness]

Endmin is better than half the cast in the game type shi

[terse raptor]

true

[distant python]

Thinking about full arts intensity Chen for more stagger

[timber harness]

The story is already a reflection of that

[distant python]

But swordmancer kinda

[terse raptor]

i dont think arts intensity works for stagger

[odd wren]

[timber harness]

Sit upon thy throne @odd wren

[odd wren]

[chilly bolt]

pls ive had enough of this gugu gaga shit on my feeds

[odd wren]

[terse raptor]

[proud vector]

but endmin in a penguin onesie is cute you gotta admit

[timber harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1423014743441932362/1469865494537441462/1183943483196768838.gif

[odd wren]

Please make endmin p5 by 1.1

[leaden mantle]

How much stagger does the combo skill trigger with the swordmancer set?

[terse raptor]

we can hope but i think its unlikely

[odd wren]

[leaden mantle]

Is it a significant margin?

[odd wren]

P4 maybe

[timber harness]

Nah its gotta come out slowly so devs can first realize the direction they want to take with characters then just make endmin better than all of em

[odd wren]

[leaden mantle]

In terms of it filling the stagger bar?

[timber harness]

Dont want them to release it half baked based on launch game design itll be cooked

[odd wren]

Interesting

[distant python]

It does for the stagger generated by lift/knockdown

Not the actual skills though

[terse raptor]

oh i never knew

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

yes and no I guess

[timber harness]

I need endmin t0 status or i uninstall

[proud vector]

Depends on what you are fighting and how that affects how the fight lines up with your attacks

[timber harness]

Ok maybe i wont quit but ill force them to work

Then quit

[odd wren]

Endmin should be t0 generally its just tierlist make t0 exclusively for speedrun hyper carries

[elder skiff]

please make tangtang powercreep endmin on 1.1

[odd wren]

Unlikely

[proud vector]

Stop it, Endmin gets glazed enough already in story

[odd wren]

But it should be lore accurate

[terse raptor]

make them work together

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

Lore accurate prime endmin is not gameplay friendly

[timber harness]

I mean i cant take them (prydwen) even in that context seriously anyway. They base their list based on that but unironically considered putting yvonne in the same tier as last rite

[proud vector]

mofo can do an orbital drop of celestial bodies apparently

[summer flower]

Endim will be probably best welfare operator

That's gonna be that

[timber harness]

Lifeng in the same tier as snowshine 😤

[summer flower]

Yea

[odd wren]

Tbf yvonne isnt even strong right now, meaning she will be stronger even more once she has the right supports

[summer flower]

Sounds correct

[proud vector]

her biggest competition LR has a chance of cannibalising her supports

[summer flower]

Yvonne does wonders with perlica duo

But then you got another duo to field

[ashen scroll]

Look into combo skill stagger damage + 10 each 15s , then look up enemies stagger threshold , wouldnt say significant but its something

[summer flower]

So any time you gonna have situation in which two operators work very nicely but don't have anything else that fits

[odd wren]

I still feel like endmin will be future proof

[summer flower]

You slap avyenna duo

Ohh wait

Nvm

[elder skiff]

endmin is all damage, da pan legit makes phys teams work better

[summer flower]

I mistook operators

[timber harness]

If you need supports to save you, youre already cooked by default. If supports are needed to save your kit then the same supports can make someone who does the same thing but better shine even further

[unreal light]

New originium rocks

Of all elements

[summer flower]

At P5?

[odd wren]

[timber harness]

Only way i see differently is the supports being super tailored

[elder skiff]

ofc at p5

[summer flower]

XDDD

[proud vector]

What is this, traveller element swapping?
We aren’t genshin

[ashen scroll]

Its probably fell into TA teritorry where you count enemy stagger hp so idk

[summer flower]

Ofc p5

[odd wren]

I have p5 dapan but at level 40

[elder skiff]

hes a 5 star, consider p5 by default

[summer flower]

P3 you to go to dumpster with that

[odd wren]

[summer flower]

Too early for that

Got avyenna 10 total pots

[outer ermine]

[summer flower]

P3 da pan

[elder skiff]

that’s just ur luck being ass

[summer flower]

Also not only 5* being low pot

[distant python]

I onto have 1 xaihi, depression

[odd wren]

Oops wrong

[proud vector]

everyone considering 5* at P5

the humble saver, no fckin way we have anyone P5 without massive luck lmao

[midnight stirrup]

Omg is that my beautiful queen Keira Knightley

[summer flower]

You see

[lusty relic]

I have p0 snowshine

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-elizabeth-bennet-keira-knightley-pride-and-prejudice-grinning-gif-19306737

[summer flower]

They didn't had avyenna P5

[lusty relic]

no idea how that happened

[summer flower]

This

[timber harness]

People who try to glaze da pan over endmin when theyre relative gives the same vibe as this video

[summer flower]

Yea but before it was

[odd wren]

[summer flower]

Stop it, don't invest in endmin at all

You lucky you didn't got endmin to lv60

Go build da pan

[unreal light]

Dapan is naked paedo

[midnight stirrup]

Rell

[summer flower]

That was talk beforhand

[midnight stirrup]

Respectfully

[proud vector]

The true miracle is that people have made RAM and logic gates ingame

[midnight stirrup]

The game just launched then

[odd wren]

Too late

[proud vector]

[midnight stirrup]

Tc didnt have a solid base yet

[terse raptor]

good investment tbh

[midnight stirrup]

Its on you for taking it so serious

And not thinking twice

[unreal light]

Ugly bastard fetish

[summer flower]

Dude

[ashen scroll]

Endmind dont have dijang base skill , da pan has the better one, worst investment

[summer flower]

Stop insulting me

[midnight stirrup]

?

How is that an insult

[summer flower]

I was one who thought twice

[terse raptor]

[midnight stirrup]

Wtf are u talking about

Lmao

[timber harness]

P5 5 star vs free p2 6* that already has a higher theoretical ceiling

[proud vector]

oh it’s peppercat

[odd wren]

[summer flower]

Man, I hate this behaviour

[odd wren]

Ikr

[midnight stirrup]

Brother

[elder skiff]

when endmin got p5 he’s gonna get powercrept by another 6*, as if its worth it waiting for a potential man

[midnight stirrup]

U literally diss the tcers in here all the time

[summer flower]

You going to die on that hill with all other guys?

[proud vector]

watch GRANDO VISION be hyper BIS on cyro shatter endmin

[midnight stirrup]

And u wanna act like im insulting u bc i said u didnt think twice

[proud vector]

[timber harness]

And then there's panda

[elder skiff]

endmin p5 copers and yvonne copers are the literal same

[midnight stirrup]

Get a grip blud

[summer flower]

Ohh I remember one argument

[drifting quest]

dont bother

its a repeated argument

[summer flower]

Endmin needs GV

[midnight stirrup]

Ur actually weird

[drifting quest]

happens several times a week

[summer flower]

But meanwhile da pan also wants to have GV

[timber harness]

But Yvonne is neither free or better than anyone in her niche

[drifting quest]

dapan on the 1h sword

cinema

[odd wren]

[unreal light]

Bro what the f

[midnight stirrup]

The lack of self reflection is crazy on these people

[drifting quest]

nothing has changed they just ignore the explanation

[proud vector]

Greatswords are swords

[odd wren]

What

[drifting quest]

tldr

[terse raptor]

gv on dapan?

[elder skiff]

endmin is not better in his niche asw

[odd wren]

When did dapan needed gv xd

[summer flower]

I was told that

[timber harness]

Certainly isnt not free either. Type shi?

[unreal light]

Dapan believers be like “I didn’t read what weapon type he uses”

[terse raptor]

da pan can't use gv, u know that right

[proud vector]

I’m just waiting for the day a true user of Grand Vision comes forth

A shatter user who can put that sweet fckin massive multiplier to damage to GOOD USE

[odd wren]

Ngl i thought dapan uses a laddle

[distant python]

Endmin gives attack boost

[summer flower]

Yea, tbh I have no idea which type dapan used

[distant python]

This is good for physical team where everyone does damage

[summer flower]

Had that is, it's 2h right?

[odd wren]

Im ready with that just in case

[summer flower]

Not 1h?

[drifting quest]

low investment - both can work, endmin more accessible
mid investment - dapan is ahead
high investment - endmin has a theoretical higher ceiling but dapan can still be comfier and easier to pilot which can lead to a higher practical ceiling. optimized rotation has a really ugly timeline compared to endmin though

endmin is giga gutted without grand vision
dapan has a good f2p option in canal

this has been the case forever

[terse raptor]

da pan use greatsword, like ember or catcher

[drifting quest]

we just didnt know the endmin optimized timeline

in the first week or two

[odd wren]

Tbf for speed running dapan is way above endmin

[summer flower]

Yet there was talk like everything was solved

[drifting quest]

since it relied on new discoveries like animation cancels, dodge tech, etc

[summer flower]

And one shouldn't invest in endmin but dapan

So it was arrogance?

[odd wren]

Preference maybe?

[drifting quest]

?

[timber harness]

Slandering endmin should be against server rules honestly

[drifting quest]

dont leap to insults because you didnt read

[summer flower]

No, no, preference I respect

[terse raptor]

[proud vector]

Dude there are a lot of people who don’t know their stuff yapping all the time
Me included

[odd wren]

[ashen scroll]

People intoxicated by the exuberancy of their own verbosity

[unreal light]

We are here to learn

[proud vector]

To g r o w

[terse raptor]

i need to open dictionary to understand this

[odd wren]

To conquer

[unreal light]

A mistake is what you should learn from

Not what you should be ashamed of

[proud vector]

I’m still of the belief that if we ever get detonation unit but for guns, Flourite would actually be good in LR teams for the sheet rotation flexibility and speed increase LOL

[unreal light]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[chilly bolt]

thanks for the vocabs

[timber harness]

Tbh it makes the channel more fun. Imagine if everyone was a copy of shuo? It would be like reading a document instead of a chat

I embrace the chaos and embrace endmin even more

[proud vector]

hey no Shou is muh lad

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

I have much wisdom passed down from them

[odd wren]

No you cant embrace me

[timber harness]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-smoking-stressed-out-snow-gif-11519160959014464883

[proud vector]

Besides if you want chaos you can go to #team-build

[unreal light]

Don’t smoke, smoke is bad for your lungs

[ashen scroll]

Did you found it

[unreal light]

I have theorycrafted your date of death with and without smoking

[odd wren]

Lmao

[unreal light]

It shows +21% growth if you don’t

[terse raptor]

my dictionary book is gone

[odd wren]

I had to

[proud vector]

Exuberance is a wild one

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

Verbosity wasn’t hard to intuit since it comes from word root Verb

[leaden mantle]

How long is gilbertas lift duration? On her combo skill? 2 seconds?

[odd wren]

Nah its a first for me

[terse raptor]

how about exurberance or whatever was it

[ashen scroll]

I theorycrafted when people smoke they reduce their lifespan effectively save resource they need to spend for living approximately by 20%

[odd wren]

Its not usually used in our vocab in my country

[next helm]

Had 1.2k friend currency

3x oroberyl in shop

wtf

[proud vector]

Not just your country

[ashen scroll]

Money saving is important

[odd wren]

[timber harness]

This is the first chat im reading where most users are from SEA but nobody is speaking half broken english/grammar and know big words

[terse raptor]

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

because can theorycrafting yes yes?

[unreal light]

Me no sea

Me earth

[timber harness]

Ruined it

[odd wren]

Lmao

[terse raptor]

yes we crafting theory

wait its not broken

[odd wren]

We craft them theories

[proud vector]

But that’s just a theory

A theorycrafting theory

[terse raptor]

[proud vector]

God I miss the golden age of YouTube

[summer flicker]

feelcraft

[unreal light]

My favourite part of big bang theory is when the theory getting big banged

[ashen scroll]

Basicaly they yap so much they forgor about what to achive with their own word , not neccessarily calling em stupid just got carried away

[proud vector]

The big bang theory was indeed about getting banged in a big way in theory

[unreal light]

Lmao

[terse raptor]

okay i kinda understand

[unreal light]

Chen surname means “1000 words”

[proud vector]

moar content to the content mines

[unreal light]

Basically Chen the Yapper

[proud vector]

I hate that the stream will be like at 10:30pm for me aaaa tomorrow night

[unreal light]

Chen the Verbous

[proud vector]

Chen the does not shut up

[odd wren]

Ngl when i did the story quests i never red chens dms

[ashen scroll]

I mean serious chen on the og ak is kinda suckass

[proud vector]

Kuudere

[ashen scroll]

They both goofy but og chen is not funni kind of stupid

[unreal light]

wtf she was the best girl

[odd wren]

Kinda waiting for that mom and chen moment, where mom gives her weapon to chen maybe a chen alter?

[unreal light]

Even her passive was scolding, lmao

[terse raptor]

let him cook

[unreal light]

I started playing this game just because of Chen, and because Pog is Russian

[odd wren]

Its in her lore in enfield iirc

[proud vector]

I mean 6* Chen alter isn’t impossible

[unreal light]

[proud vector]

There is some setup for it

[terse raptor]

yea i read it ingame too

[unreal light]

She will wear no clothes, and will apply wet to her enemies

[proud vector]

when M3 playable though

[terse raptor]

sounds familiar

[unreal light]

She also will have a water element

[odd wren]

Ok stop

[unreal light]

THATS CANON

[proud vector]

Oh like leek lady who turns green and wears no clothes to apply shock to people

[odd wren]

[odd wren]

Ok this one i like

[proud vector]

Final fantasy 6 was a childhood favourite so I actually like the look haha

[unreal light]

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[proud vector]

Really reminds me of Esper form

[unreal light]

BASED

[odd wren]

[unreal light]

Oh hello 6* Chen

Long time no see

[terse raptor]

this is the wet chen

[odd wren]

No mask endmin when?

[proud vector]

Chen + water = stronger?!

[ashen scroll]

I dont care enough about her og to know her deep lore , but i would say her sword probably just gone now since there no dragon to kill

[terse raptor]

P5

[unreal light]

Kettle endmin is needed

[odd wren]

Look?!?!?!

[ashen scroll]

Where did blaze chainsaw go?

[unreal light]

That’s another character

[proud vector]

Knowing how the Chinese like their treasured swords it was probably resmelted into a new weapon

[ashen scroll]

[ashen scroll]

Bro lost it on a mahjong games

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

still though, why grand vision have solidification trigger? Was Alesh meant to use it as a secondary option? Will we get shatter Endmin?

Oh my god

PENGMIN ALTER

[unreal light]

She actually might appear as a caster lmao

[chilly bolt]

the chalter incident

[terse raptor]

now, let him cook!

[unreal light]

It actually sounds like a solid option for Arclight

[ashen scroll]

The real question is what our current chen will call talulah reconvener? Auntie? Hag?

[chilly bolt]

twin

[odd wren]

Wisadel when?

[proud vector]

pull a project moon where the summer event is held in the freezing cold of the north!!

PENGMIN diving suit summer unit!!

[unreal light]

Rock solid

[unreal light]

The boy will wear only pants, whereas the girl endmin will be fully covered in some fur coat

[odd wren]

[unreal light]

I feel bad for whoever understands every niche joke

[summer flower]

Who is gonna tell them that summer winter is place dependent?

[proud vector]

Ah fuck I’m suffering ptsd from korean incel drama

[unreal light]

[proud vector]

Why you do this

[odd wren]

Lmao

Linda walker vibes eh

[ashen scroll]

[unreal light]

So they had an event in limbus company, with unclothed boy skin and zero skin showed girl skin

https://giphy.com/gifs/ryoshu-limbus-company-uTUYQ4RSHgeZQCbH9W

[ashen scroll]

What even is that mean

Unclothed boy skin

[unreal light]

My dad is lolan

[proud vector]

No no don’t explain further it doesn’t need to be said

[unreal light]

It is what it is

[proud vector]

the girl was in a skintight diving suit and those barbarians didn’t appreciate that

Like the uncultured swine they are

[ashen scroll]

There is baggy diving suit?

[proud vector]

I think so?

Like the really deep depth ones

[ashen scroll]

Never heard of them , probably deep diving stuff

[proud vector]

Ye

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQORGHw6CvU08YV8sc3PgA17yuCNaaM52rDZQ6AjsXG2nDJTDBMmKN25CsenMs47aWizcrqfIXCBtm3UZIbvSxDqsiiEo4HIfHUzrREmA&s=10

Look at this absolute LAD

[terse raptor]

[unreal light]

The guy has a nipple clamps

wtf

[odd wren]

[ashen scroll]

Speaking ofclothing i miss kazimierz transparent plastic looking armor

[fading fog]

what would be perlica's bis team if she's played with oblivion as a dps?

[unreal light]

Pog killed all kazimierz people megacanon

[ashen scroll]

Real?

[unreal light]

He fought wars against kazimierz

In og AK

[ashen scroll]

Uhh patriot wont like that , since he critized his violence too

Hellagur gone senile it seems

[unreal light]

Pog (Hellagur) retired from his duty and started helping children

[odd wren]

[proud vector]

it’s kinda funny that Pog is a bundle deal with the 4 lads

[ashen scroll]

Who was the name 6* standard boy?

[unreal light]

Lifeng

[proud vector]

Lifeng?

[ashen scroll]

Yeah lifeng

Call me crazy but he looks like quilon but twink

And the giant he summon also sus

[teal pawn]

Finally done, now to wait if Tangtang is phys crush or not

[ashen scroll]

I mean she have handcanon

She got to be caster

So i believe the rumor that she is ice inflictor

[teal pawn]

Doesn't really disqualify phys though

also ice is weird and that one is sus so

|| especially when Rossi is basically DPS Ember||

[ashen scroll]

I mean if she realy are physical it should be breach since its a gun

[unreal light]

Based + related

[teal pawn]

I like Chen

[teal pawn]

She's not replacing Pogga if so but we will see

[unreal light]

I want to bangbang tangtang

[teal pawn]

She also has explosives so like

anything goes

[ashen scroll]

I just have horrible thoughts about how we get from mountain to tangtang

[unreal light]

Bro mountain is furry

The only horrible thing that happened to us

[ashen scroll]

From bulky, avid book reader, macho fugitive to ... some creature

[unreal light]

Is that we got from fully clothed furries like mountain and spot and hung

We got a naked paedo da pan

[odd wren]

7:30pm gmt 8 cant wait

[unreal light]

The guy doesn’t fucking wear clothes

[ashen scroll]

He wear suit

[unreal light]

His crotch is not covered

[odd wren]

Kungfu panda even wear pants

[ashen scroll]

Ngl i never see arknights operator sexual way except priestess so . . .

[odd wren]

Whereas dapan doesnt

[ashen scroll]

[odd wren]

[unreal light]

Bro says pog is not sexy

[ashen scroll]

If they give him beard probably

Man i wish they give us training site just to test out build before investing

[unreal light]

That’s a cool idea

[ashen scroll]

Its kinda tiring just relly on math sheet ~_~

[drifting quest]

sheeting alone is pretty useless

[ashen scroll]

Wouldnt call it useless but it does get weird time to time

[drifting quest]

it only has value when attached to actual clearing and validation

which should be obvious

sheeting can help to form an initial hypothesis, and also compare untested stuff

but if you leave it simply as sheeted numbers it doesn't mean anything

[rich linden]

wuling overdrive 😭

[ashen scroll]

I just hate sitting on resource but couldnt use it since there no real way to use it , its just selfish feeling

[odd wren]

Wow how?!

[odd wren]

I can only do 6/12

[distant python]

Burning through the xiranite stockpile

[rich linden]

(manual transfer) 😭

[distant python]

Doesn't help with the battery

Battery is hard gated by sky forge

[rich linden]

i nuked one buck capsule gen in valley 4

[rich linden]

yea i was at 40/60

[distant python]

You can only do 18 for a bit until you run out of xiranite

[rich linden]

so i made another battery line

[distant python]

Also where components

[rich linden]

i have like 20k still

[distant python]

Oh fair

[rich linden]

will add it again if(when) irun out

[odd wren]

Oh lmao

Imagine if they make Tata playable

Bis 6* electro

[ashen scroll]

No

[odd wren]

[astral basin]

Can I see your Ferrum Ore stat?

[chilly bolt]

bro is burning his stockpiles

[astral basin]

I got each running 3/m and it results in deficit that I barely cover using Regional Transfer and manual movement via Dijang every few days.

*I meant Syringe and Drink, each 3/m.

[drifting berry]

Is there any weapon here worth farming 3/3 essences for? The ones mark with X already have 3/3 essence.

The only one that seems kinda worth it seems to be both Sundering steel and maybe Monaihe?

[chilly bolt]

deto stanza thermite

also why you keep 2 thermite copies

[astral basin]

For different Operators?

[drifting berry]

Alesh on Yvonne team and Akekuri for Laev, just in case we get 2 team content.

[drifting quest]

second thermite in case we ever get 2 team content
or
1% more attack buff

[chilly bolt]

my gambler self would go for the 1%

[drifting berry]

Tho maybe I should wait for livestream, if they announce weapon stats I could farm for that

[drifting quest]

no reason not to wait the 18h or so

[rich linden]

i get enough originium and ferrium but atleast now ill be 100% util on the 2 forges

[chilly bolt]

it's gonna only last for 2 hours at most

[rich linden]

valley 4 is 18 batteries, and 6+6 healing

[rich linden]

i was at 40/60 usage xiranite before i added just one more battery lineup..

[astral basin]

Do you like, turn them off when they run dry and let them refill before turning production back on, or...?

[rich linden]

turn what off?

[astral basin]

Output ports.

[rich linden]

nah

just yoink from valley 4 stockpile

xiranite stuff will be capped for another 2 weeks tho xd

[astral basin]

Well, at least I have enough Xiranite production for energy, gear and stockpile. Healing items though? Works at a deficit or very slow balance.

Just not enough Ferrum deposits and Region Transfer is capped at 1500/h.

[rich linden]

yepp

[molten star]

If my last rite does like 400k on combo fully buffed and sht, at p3 will she be able to hit 500k?

[midnight stirrup]

#aic-factory

[rich linden]

next patch gonna fix a lot of the farming speeds

:gladge:

[rich linden]

tc doesnt discriminate numbers

[midnight stirrup]

Doubt it

[midnight stirrup]

Want to have opal tell you instead?

[molten star]

Isn't she 20% stronger than base at p3

[rare zodiac]

1.15 mul, so more of 460k

[rich linden]

who

[midnight stirrup]

@mystic halo

[molten star]

Should I put that thing which gives staggered bonus dng or the thing that gives ultimate bonus dmg on her?

[midnight stirrup]

What does her p3 say again

1.2x the multiplier right

[rare zodiac]

x1.15

[midnight stirrup]

Ah even worse

Should be 15% of original damage and then the buffs on top if im correct

Ur not hitting 500k with that I think

[rare zodiac]

460k

[midnight stirrup]

Yea sounds more reasonable

[molten star]

Will 500k be possible if I m3 ardelia's skill

[midnight stirrup]

I dont know, probably

I dont use Ardelia with LR

[molten star]

Gilberta?

[midnight stirrup]

Ya

I personally find gilberta overall the better character for LR

[rare zodiac]

for burst dps Gilb will always be a better choice

[midnight stirrup]

Gilb with LR makes LR able to do aoe pretty efficiently

[molten star]

Even at p1 ardelia?

[midnight stirrup]

And then shes not far behind ardelia in general for st

[midnight stirrup]

My gilb is p2

P1 ard beats gilb p0 i think

[molten star]

What's your armour on lr?

[midnight stirrup]

But still no aoe on ard

[chilly bolt]

the only reason im not using gil over ardelia is i dont have her sig

[midnight stirrup]

Bonekrusha chest rest tide

But im p5p5

[rare zodiac]

only place that i can recommend Arde is Lae supercharge for how spread out her dps is

[midnight stirrup]

I personally dont see a reason for running ardelia unless ur hifumi

U nuke with gilb too and u get aoe priviliges

[molten star]

Frontiers vs aethertechx whichs better?

[midnight stirrup]

Its just better overall

[rare zodiac]

Stanza exist

[chilly bolt]

stanza on perlica

[midnight stirrup]

Both work

[chilly bolt]

i know you could use monaihe on perlica instead but...

[midnight stirrup]

Give perlica abyssal or whatever

Gilb stanza

Have perlica deal dps too

[molten star]

When using gib, do you use her battle skill os Last rite?

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah bc u cant stack in aoe anyway

U wipe waves with gilb bs and lr bs

[rare zodiac]

in aoe yes

[molten star]

What about st

[midnight stirrup]

For mobs lr skill does a shitload

[midnight stirrup]

U only use combo and ult

But u ult after lr consumes stacks for combo

[rare zodiac]

ult bot

[chilly bolt]

be aware of using gil ult

[midnight stirrup]

Eventually with tougher bosses

The rot changes a bit

And u wanna corrosion into rot 2 with buffed combo

@molten star

[chilly bolt]

oh the 0 ult rotation

[midnight stirrup]

This is st rot rn

[molten star]

Do I m3 gib

[midnight stirrup]

No

It caps at m1

The susc

[chilly bolt]

wait if you're using gil, isnt frontier chess better

[midnight stirrup]

Even if it is

I aint swapping around constantly

Thats unnecessary sweat for what

[chilly bolt]

[midnight stirrup]

Rhod left at 20% and im not even max artifice and essence yet

Im too lazy to setup a xiranite comp factory

Smile

[chilly bolt]

i hope you're doing good with wuling stocks

[midnight stirrup]

Sitting on 2m

Have like 120 of those artifice things sitting around

But getting back to the point

People need to stress less about whats minmax here

Thats the tcers job bc its necessary for game understanding

[outer ermine]

hand those over rn

[midnight stirrup]

Casual players dont need to hit peaks

The game doesnt ask it

[midnight stirrup]

Say daddy please

[molten star]

What do you do if you got hit in like second rot and was down like 3k hp? Like wouldn't that mean you can't get overhealed from xaihi and hence no amplify?

[outer ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052547707350290503/1240108747053994015/ezgif-1-b9d46a23dc.gif

pls

[midnight stirrup]

Good boy

You can have half

[midnight stirrup]

Rhod isnt hard to dodge

[outer ermine]

when u gonna crit grind on my acc smh

[midnight stirrup]

Idk what the future holds for tougher bosses

[molten star]

Not rhod, other bosses

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi might fall off bc of the hp restriction for something else

Or bosses might still be easy to dodge

Well find out tomorrow

[drifting quest]

we know the 1.1 enemies via cbt

[midnight stirrup]

Is it the octopus

From wuling

[outer ermine]

im prob showing cn my rot today im not getting good attempts anymore

[rare zodiac]

the 40% amp from ult still crack

[molten star]

How many hours till the live?

[midnight stirrup]

Idk

Wait I do

Like 18 ish

[midnight stirrup]

Never

You got that my goat

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