theorycrafting

[potent hornet]

kinda wish we could choose main stat or secondary stat for the stat increases through loyalty

[summer flower]

Any stat

So we could make Chen smarter

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-confused-scratching-head-gif-13701752054283237681

[summer flower]

Gib Chen Smort Power

I was wondering if to @ you xD

With that message before

[pure spoke]

[gaunt mason]

should be updated now with corrosion and ardelia arts int input

what did you want to do?

[odd wren]

We haven't seen endmin full potential tho xd

[static pewter]

[odd wren]

But anywau endmin all the way!

[static pewter]

Perfect timing, after I took smol break on making reviewer lol

[odd wren]

Inb4 tangrang replaces chen

As phys support

[quartz flame]

etching takes so long...

[outer ermine]

[quartz flame]

i dumped over 1k stamina today in fodder essences because my boosters were expiring

and all i got for it

was 2 levels of phys damage boost on lifeng

and one of those was purchased with gel

[gaunt mason]

chen never dies

[odd wren]

Hmm tbf i never even tried etch lifeng since i just use him for buffs

I wonder

[gaunt mason]

big damage

[quartz flame]

and then i have to level this one too after...

[odd wren]

Even my never rest is on flow3 purple

[gaunt mason]

maybe not as much for you since you have a maxed endmin

[quartz flame]

i dont have anything else to dump stamina in right now

so i might as well

[odd wren]

Yeah ngl i would etch everything on my phys soon

My chen almost done

[quartz flame]

it's that or very slowly grinding mastery levels for raw damage multipliers

[gaunt mason]

p5 sundering

i’m waiting for another sundering to pop up in the shop

[odd wren]

I have p3 rapid

[gaunt mason]

[odd wren]

Not sure if i should change

🤔

[gaunt mason]

p3 is better if you chen ult during stagger

[odd wren]

[gaunt mason]

added the rotation editor to my personal sheet and everything broke

man

[odd wren]

Hmmmm

[gaunt mason]

just depends on how you route damage

[peak void]

lock the +3 inspiring, you can use it on support weapons that only want the 3rd line

[gaunt mason]

stagger windows aren’t set in stone

[odd wren]

I cant do anything properly in p1

[quartz flame]

i keep my purples anyway

no need to lock it

[odd wren]

It goest to p2 so fast after breach

[quartz flame]

not like they're worth trashing

[peak void]

i trash mine 🤷

[odd wren]

[gaunt mason]

yeah that happens with p0 grand vision too

[odd wren]

Didnt happen to me before xd

When i had p1

I was able to do chen ult + endmin crush

[gaunt mason]

probably less investment

my lifeng and chen are very invested too

[odd wren]

Time to invest on every stuff on my phys team

[drifting quest]

Wait 2 more days

The tangtang effect

[peak void]

imagine tangtang isnt bis for stockade outpost

[drifting quest]

She should be per v4

Laev Gilb Yvonne

Are the 3 bis

[peak void]

she should be yes

but i think itd just be funny

[proud vector]

i'm just glad

that we will know more in 2 days ngl

[drifting quest]

Hoping for some good qol updates

[proud vector]

now i wanna dig up like

[drifting quest]

Info about future permanent gamemodes and changes for current

[proud vector]

the to do list they made of stuff they want to implement

and make a bingo board with it LOL

[drifting quest]

Bingo should be simple

[wanton notch]

Does someone have image with Chen's weapon calculations

[drifting quest]

I mean I can rattle off the list with rough numbers

But not a sheet on hand

But like barely anyone has p2 rascent anyway

So just go sundering steel dont think about it

[gritty olive]

Integrated plans#0

[drifting quest]

A permanent IS style mode with trial units would be nice

[proud vector]

think thats very unlikely tbh

that sounds like it would take a lot of dev time and be someting from a major patch

[drifting quest]

Its not happening

[proud vector]

buuuut it WOULD be nice yeah haha

[buoyant yoke]

rogue like proto space

[proud vector]

hell, special that mode only gear pieces

would go unironically hard

[wanton notch]

I remember there was a picture with it, but I cannot find it

[drifting quest]

From who's sheet

[proud vector]

with busted effects like battle skills cast twice xD

[drifting quest]

Wuwa's roguelike is the closest to a fun one I recall but it has a ton of issues

For the genre

Not overall

[proud vector]

yeh

[wanton notch]

Don't know. Just remember seeing one

[proud vector]

its hard to see it working out here due to like the team synergy issue

a tower defence but roguelike is far more likely to me LMFAO

[pulsar sail]

Has there been a breakdown of the stock Elastic Goods trade?
just curious if its patterns and mechanics/logic's been broken down.

[drifting quest]

It should be seeded but it's unlikely people share both a seed and the same sequence

[wanton notch]

It can help, they recently added #elastic-goods-trading-na-eu

[chilly bolt]

Does yvonne gain hyper armor during ult?

[drifting quest]

No

[wanton notch]

Wait she isn't? I've seen people tanked some hits that usually flinch characters

[chilly bolt]

Same that's why i asked lol

[drifting quest]

Would need more info to comment

[pulsar sail]

huh thats interesting through, adding and removing friends repeatedly sounds a little tedious.

[drifting quest]

But hyper armour would mean she never gets ragdolled

(And typically gets dr)

[buoyant yoke]

more like super armor i guess, tho she can still dodge

[chilly bolt]

Same thing i suppose

Some enemy attacks does forcibly flinch you away tho

Like the ramming aggelloi

[pulsar sail]

the benefit of people visiting your elastic goods store is just isn't it just credits?
while there's a lot of benefit only for the visitor seller

[drifting quest]

She should have a minor amount of interruption res but it isnt a huge amount

[chilly bolt]

I think that's the same as lr hyper armor on final strike

[chilly bolt]

You get credits when someone sells goods to you

[odd wren]

I broke the 1m barrier finally @static pewter @gaunt mason

[chilly bolt]

Not sure how much per 1 but it's capped at 60

[odd wren]

But it was a crit for a low crush too bad

[neon cave]

does people selling their goods at your ship cause your goods prices to drop for the next day?

[static pewter]

That's not staggered right?

[odd wren]

I think i missed something

[odd wren]

Lemme check

It was sraggered

[chilly bolt]

Well i never heard anything like that so i guess it doesn't affect you

[static pewter]

Ooh welp

[odd wren]

Unlucky me

I missed something for sure

[static pewter]

Atleast it's a mil for no ardelia

[odd wren]

Ikr

[static pewter]

And that's not even the minmaxed you can do on that team

Cuz no pog buff

[odd wren]

What you mean

The ult one?

[static pewter]

If endmin can apply phys status while pog ult is active. It gives 8% atk and 8 arts intensity

[odd wren]

Ohh

[wanton notch]

And I can't do it with Catcher still

[odd wren]

Then i should ult during this frame

[wanton notch]

Fricking 16 seconds behind

[static pewter]

Iirc it still applies pog buff on crush

[odd wren]

So i need to align everything before stagger?

I ult before crush?

[static pewter]

It's not that big of a change on rotation I think, you just need to do ult after you apply breach then that should give buff on your crush

[odd wren]

I always do that

[static pewter]

If you just do pog cs to 4 vuln to crush

[odd wren]

But i never had ult on tbis frame

I ulted on p1

So basically i just need to ult on p2 to fish that screenshot

[static pewter]

Welp

[odd wren]

[static pewter]

I don't think it's a really big diff but still, +dmg is better screenshot dmg

[odd wren]

Ikr

[pulsar sail]

Elastic good prices, do they stay the same the entire day?

[static pewter]

Yes

[pulsar sail]

Whats the highest fluctuation in prices there can be? I think the highest values I have seen is is for goods (-70% to -75%) to (150% to 158%) for around a maximum profit of about in the 750% range, through I think someone said the highest profit they have seen was in the 1200%.

[summer flower]

There been screenshots of 900% difference

[odd wren]

I did 1000% before

On wuling

Too bad only 50 stocks

[pulsar sail]

Think the best profit I have had was with fillets and martial arts movies for Valley 4 and Wuling, usually I save my buy quota for items of -40% or more, and wait for a place to sell with 100% or more, I don't think I there's a limit for items you can stockpile right?

through I hope when the content is updated I can raise the Wuling Development level so I can buy more elastic goods in Wuling.

[buoyant yoke]

just lemme buy those artificing things with unreduced price xD sucks not to be able to buy more

[summer flower]

Stockpiling sounds like some long term planning

[pulsar sail]

i think I have 2000x Unity Syrup, I'm waiting for a friend to have a 150% so I can sell at least at a 500% profit, through highest i have seen is 300% so I'm still waiting.

[summer flower]

Oh wait

Unity Syrup, not sanity syrup xD

2000 sanity syrup would been crazy

[pulsar sail]

if it sell it right now i can make 11m.

[gaunt mason]

[wanton notch]

https://fixupx.com/Sibadon_/status/2027333148670115869

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

Well, remember that Catcher was at same clear time with Ember? Now he is 11 seconds faster

[summer flower]

Since when we had last solo ember?

[rich widget]

i mean, its kinda weird measuring solo performance for team operators

but oookay

[wanton notch]

https://youtu.be/lZhtqdz__28?si=jU7_uOPuH42sllE6 Last one I saw

[summer flower]

Ohh quite new

But sadly no operatprgear presented

[bold rose]

I know it's optimal but Thermite Cutter on Pog is such a generational aura loss man
at least even Fortmaker looks decent

[rich widget]

dont worry, you cant lose what you dont have

[pulsar sail]

appears that 2,000 is the flat recommended price.
the highest price I could find is [5,361]
and the lowest price I could find is [381], [367]

so 1360.7% is possible it looks like.

[lime anchor]

let him cook now

[icy ginkgo]

ive never seen this menu b4

[outer ermine]

ive seen 380

[next helm]

The fact that you get 12-13 str per rank triggers me

[icy ginkgo]

thats not even the highest str boost tier

[next helm]

rank 2 gives 12

then randomly they start giving 13

Then 7 gives 12 again

[fading moat]

first design vs maybe the final design, any feedback?

[next helm]

Then 13 and 19

weird

[warped sinew]

the lowest i had was 367

[peak void]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bosnov-67

[chilly bolt]

did you know that if you have 154 arts intensity, your arts reaction will be enhanced by 67%

[oak vigil]

did you know that if you feed gluttonous beast (Arclight) enough, she will suddenly pop like a balloon from the amount of arts reactions consumed

it’s true! and you lose that character forever

did you know that when oven could food cold Perlica does backflip when over warm food cold?

[outer ermine]

did you know that if you

[oak vigil]

We are actually losing our minds at theory crafting at this point, we theory crafted everything and we are just saying shit

what no repeatable content does to mfs

(me included)

[pulsar sail]

do we have a log of eveything thats been number crunched?

[oak vigil]

Uhhhh I think we don’t

(key words: I think)

[paper sand]

@drifting quest @summer flower did it

[drifting quest]

idk what you're doing if you think tc is done

there's new stuff every day

some just goes nowhere

[paper sand]

also i heard there's new tech for yvonne, what's up with that

[oak vigil]

exaggerating joke

But on the serious matter, yeah there always will be stuff to theory craft

[oak vigil]

Does it include pressing U button and switching her

[drifting quest]

combo of animation cancels and kit routing can make her perform a bit better

[paper sand]

only a bit, ouch

[warped sinew]

congrats, though i dont think stagger set is good on ember

[paper sand]

thank you, but naah it's proven good to me

i like it more than having a pog since i dont have to consume like double the vuln stacks

[warped sinew]

well, pog is mainly for SP recovery and breach

but you use different team so it doesnt matter now

[jagged stump]

if we throw an arts reaction and then throw another one with the same reaction does it replace the previous one or extend the duration?

[warped sinew]

so im assuming ember is stagger only unit and other operators doing dmg?

[chilly bolt]

it should refresh the timer

[jagged stump]

so if i slap corossion (4 stacks arts) then wait untill it wants to ran out to take advantage of it and then did another corossion (1 stack arts), it still take the first one to take an effect and refresh the timer?

[paper sand]

she also provides a free vuln stack when she gets hit

dude

[warped sinew]

yeah that also but anyway, that explain

im just using ember as main dps so thats why it was kinda wierd for me

[chilly bolt]

good question, it should keep the effect and only refresh the duration

still need to confirm it tho

[jagged stump]

just want to minmax and squeeze more dmg even tho i surely overkill already, im so bad at sheeting or eyeballing my dmg for brute testing

[chilly bolt]

rn there's no one that really abuse the effect of corrosion, if they release someone that can extend or interact with it in some way, that would be really strong as it is the best debuff in the game

[jagged stump]

wish theres some kind of dummy instead of hitting the fatso/umbral everytime

[pure spoke]

chen gaming

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-yes-gif-9261220417428024166

[jagged stump]

i believe i can still squeeze more with perlica if that corossion thingy is real

[tranquil burrow]

Level 90 Laevatain, max level weapon, skills level 10 (max is 13), an decent essence, ardeilas debuffs that increases arts damage by around 34%, still dies game is trash

[paper sand]

i cant ever imagine using lae in this stage because of the lack of cc

[drifting quest]

are you just trying to rant or what

[terse raptor]

[paper sand]

this is the stage that made me switch investments from lae to phys

[warped sinew]

laevatain is kinda bad for this stage tbh

[drifting quest]

i struggle to tell atp

[jagged stump]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[drifting quest]

if they are ragebait or just ranting in tc channel for no reason or asking for advice

[chilly bolt]

btw is prydwen good now

[drifting quest]

yesnt

some are fine

some are sort of fine minus a few caveats

a lot are bad

tier list is bad, naturally, as is team comps

[tranquil burrow]

Its not skill issue, its bad game design. I hope they make these dtages easier. I havent got this frustrated with a game in a long time...

[chilly bolt]

i looked again and it seemed quite decent on the charater's pages

[drifting quest]

depends on the last updated time

By Update Date:
23/02/26 - Yvonne
22/02/26 - Xaihi, Perlica, Lifeng, Gilberta, Da Pan, Alesh
18/02/26 - Avywenna, Arclight
02/02/26 - Snowshine, Last Rite, Catcher, Antal
29/01/26 - Laevatein
21/01/26 - Wulfgard, Pogranichnik, Fluorite, Estella, Endmin, Ember, Chen, Ardelia, Akekuri

Unless more have updated since

[chilly bolt]

oh i looked on yvonne page, that's why

[drifting quest]

its basically just yvonne's that's like fine right now

i think the rest have issues, minor or major

next major overhaul is 1.1 (March 12th or so)

so im just working on stuff one by one

as are some others

[chilly bolt]

alright just making sure before i tell people to use prwydwen

[drifting quest]

im hoping 1.1 doesnt overhaul too much gear wise

but ive sort of put everything on hold until sunday

to see what the stream has

[jagged stump]

i was just using prydwen to read kits so i dont have to open my damn chars every single time

[drifting quest]

i prefer talos wiki for kits

[terse raptor]

most likely a new set of level 70 gears, i just hope they dont add gears a tier above

[drifting quest]

only thing i prefer prydwen for right now is quickly accessing gear

[drifting quest]

my assumption is 2 new gear sets, no new tier

yeah

[chilly bolt]

wiki is neat for info but the navigation is kinda bad

or i just have skill issue at navigating

[drifting quest]

they removed the gear tab from quick access bar

made me mald

[dry kindle]

just search it

[drifting quest]

i know

its still extra stuff

if im accessing it 30 times a day

[neat snow]

Do you need help

[drifting quest]

was it not ragebait

[neat snow]

I needed to ask cause I can't tell

[drifting quest]

i tried not to assume but

im too used to it being bait

atp

[twilit quail]

I mean that stage is definitely funny in a bad way

[rare zodiac]

When bro so bad you don’t know is he ragebating or he is just that bad

[dry kindle]

just assume everyone is serious

[drifting quest]

i used to

[dry kindle]

usually true

🗿

[drifting quest]

this was the whole point

i used to treat it all seriously

and kept getting baited as a result

[dry kindle]

throw a brick at em

[neat snow]

It's definitely a harder stage with a no cc team but it's not unbeatable. Just be patient, run to the edges of the map if you need to, slowly chip them down with combust. You'll get it 👍

[rare zodiac]

That is assuming they have skills

Just bring Catcher if you can’t dodge

[drifting quest]

laev ult basic range is super forgiving for the stage

lets you pretty easily have near 100% uptime on dps

[signal sundial]

angy noises

[rare zodiac]

Dodge can solve almost everything but that requires skill, better just told them a char that can deal with the gimmick

[drifting quest]

there's edge cases where the routing is off and they end up in different spots which can suck

[neat snow]

Yeah you just can't be in a rush is all. There's plenty of time to chip them down.

[paper sand]

[neat snow]

[signal sundial]

[oak vigil]

Mmmmmhhhh, question, have you used ults on tentacles? Like even at the very first one

First/second one

[paper sand]

i have yea

[oak vigil]

Genuinely saves a lot of time

Oh okay, then it’s essence dif

[paper sand]

the only ult i save for the core is lifeng's

actually that run i was 1 stagger away from interrupting her

and then she did the wing attack

WOO

i can finally start building my gilbless yvonne

[paper sand]

it was a jakob-vs-ginseng diff

[lime nacelle]

Is the damage difference between Aspirant and Sundering Steel for Chen really that big?

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-yes-gif-9261220417428024166

[paper sand]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-yes-gif-9261220417428024166

i love my angels and my dragons

[warped sinew]

dw i regret pulling for laevatain as well

[pure spoke]

idk if this is accurate because hearsay so far is sundering steel p5 is BIS

[chilly bolt]

Damn why people say sundering p5 better than p0 sig

[pure spoke]

solo dps is higher

[lime nacelle]

Rapid Ascent OP.

[pure spoke]

main dps*

i can confirmed the main dps tho. sundering does more dmg

[tranquil burrow]

Apparently i have to jse my brain to use her at her max potential, which i struggle with

[chilly bolt]

Oh i guess atk% from sundering is just that good

[lime nacelle]

Very helpful, thanks.

[pure spoke]

ye. i wish i had p5

[lime nacelle]

I think I'll just stick with Aspirant.

Since it's not main DPS Chen.

[tranquil burrow]

going sig means you get to avoid using the ugliest piece of metal in existence

[pure spoke]

ye idk where it came from with Aspirant being super ass. in the beta everyone said it was good for chen

[tranquil burrow]

I know Tangtang can solo Edmin and Nefarith & all of Talos 1 & 2 so ill just wait for her

[lime nacelle]

I did some damage testing earlier and Aspirant was pulling ahead, but this was without any essences etc.

So I dunno how much things change later.

[lime nacelle]

500 catties!

[summer flower]

Watch it be + stat gear for LV 70 xD

[river scroll]

people need to change that tier list on pin
LR T0, Laevatain is T0.5 now 📈

[tough roost]

has frontier set wulfgard been tested yet?

[summer flower]

Ehh

[pure spoke]

ye i hate sunderign steels look. also thermite cutter

[summer flower]

That laev? That made people angry at umbral part 2 stage 2?

[summer flower]

But box cutter is cute

[tough roost]

laev isnt suited for umbral 2 2, but its doable

[lime nacelle]

Honestly... same.

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

never rest enjoyers

[warped sinew]

yeah can try to play safe, but i think you can also change operators to help you, cuz they can get annoying with just running there and there

[pure spoke]

interesting. i mainly leveled the flow essence stat

[lime nacelle]

Still waiting to get Thermite so I can actually do damage difference.

[river scroll]

Imagine no Thermite

not meh

[pure spoke]

i found this lol

https://youtu.be/I516ubVMo8s?si=WK7gRw86_gXoIfmq

[river scroll]

[pure spoke]

could have been even faster if he dodged into the dash direction of the mob.

[river scroll]

I think that need to be pinned somewhere, i swear I have seen like 999 laevatain user complaining about being skill issue

[oak vigil]

this somehow feels more masochistic than doing it with Estella solo

(iirc her name)

[pure spoke]

well no hit is certainly maso

[lime nacelle]

Is it worth going from 80 to 90 for the damage difference?

Like for Chen.

Weapon and character level.

[warped sinew]

i rlly dont know how do people solo with laev, but it might be me who just have skill issue to play with her xD

[pure spoke]

well its try and error

u probably also can do a no-hit run if you try long enough and dont give up

im saying this because i also do no-hit runs

[warped sinew]

i guess thats not for me, im too used to main ember

[pure spoke]

do you mean face tanking by that?

there is also All-Hit run

xD

[warped sinew]

i mean dps ember

[pure spoke]

dps ember is strong

[warped sinew]

yeah, but what i mean that playstyle of no-hit is not for me cuz kinda hard to switch playstyle for me rn

[pure spoke]

understandable

im pretty sure ember can solo-no hit run that stage too

i gonna use the selector ticket soon if we have more news about ipcoming 1.1 ops

probably for ember

[warped sinew]

probably, but i earlier did it with getting hit, cuz didnt rlly care about that

[drifting quest]

we'll get news on sunday

[warped sinew]

and ember gain atk from getting hit

[pure spoke]

i wishe there would be another method to proc her combo

[drifting quest]

<t:1772364600:R>

should be stream time

[pure spoke]

its around 1 am for me on sunday

nice time

[drifting berry]

Question, once at Endgame what are the best uses for sanity if you are already done farming essences and skills? Usually I would just dump eveything into t-creds but it feels extremely low value.

[warped sinew]

all operators maxed?

[drifting quest]

if you dont have any key masteries left, nor essences then stockpiling fodder essence is probably best

[drifting berry]

Only the ones that matter, Laev, Yvoone, Gilberta lvl 90. Xaihi and Ardelia lvl 80. Laev and Yvoone M6, Xaihi M3, Gilberta M1. Essences 6/5/3 5/5/3.

Yeah, I guess just try to get the last essences for 6/6/3 Laev

[warped sinew]

then you can either build rest of the operators or just grind items for future new operators

[oak vigil]

Tbh it’s worth doing it this way:
start to get main essences of your main team, then starting from 6 star weapons get essences and to 5 star weapons

If there is like really nothing else to do besides essences

[drifting berry]

I stop doing essences after a week trying to get a 3/3 Essences for Gilberta without success.

I will continue

[drifting quest]

back to the mines

[drifting berry]

yeah

[drifting quest]

in terms of 'i have nothing left to farm' though you just want more essences for future etching anyway

[drifting berry]

Also I was asking to see is there was anything else other than essences that is worth farming. Regular resources seems to be low efficiency and it doesn't feel that you need to stock a lot of talent materials.

[drifting quest]

efficiency is pretty terrible for the rest so its not worth stockpiling

[chilly bolt]

Fodder essence, purple gel or just farm every promotion mats equally

[summer flower]

Dunno, how do you get to nothing to farm anymore?

Or is it that just single team all m3 and then nothing to do?

[midnight stirrup]

Materials that arent directly refreshed in factory

But otherwise either hoard if u have BP stocking item

Or go for t bucks

Can also just prefarm a little bit of everything to have some basis for future chars

[oak vigil]

Tbh just master necessary skills for your main team and then go for essence farming

Speaking of which- What towers are best for essence places? Tesla tower?

[buoyant yoke]

you want to afk them?

[oak vigil]

Just overall what is better, not intending to afk

[summer flower]

Depends on allum

Some want AoE some prefer more single damage

Usually you want some mix of AoE capability and single target

And there is also consideration of afk Vs active

[buoyant yoke]

2 marsh gas 2 HE rest sentries worked for me on all of them

[snow bone]

What's the best armor for last rite

[chilly bolt]

You have like 4 options Frontier, Bonekhrusha, aethertech, yinlung

For me i find frontier and aethertech are good for bossing, people say bone is better if p3 but i dont have her p3 so cant really tell

[drifting quest]

yinglung is the most generic, performs better over every piece of content averaged
aethertech has value for bossing where stagger windows align well
frontier and bonekrusha are the speedrunning choice sets depending on 0 energy start vs precharged ults, and potential level

[chilly bolt]

I haven't used yinlung personally, but with same stats as bone and +dmg to all skills seems nice

[latent glacier]

Faster clear would be Surges with 3/4 Sentries

[chilly bolt]

Ye surge and sentry are just too good

But keep in mind enemy res tho

Some have electric res and phys res

[latent glacier]

You could replace Sentries with Beam but

I don't even read their resist

I just go All Surges and Sentries on every single one

[chilly bolt]

Bruh...

Aggellois have phys res

Wuling blobs have electric

[latent glacier]

Well what are you going to replace Surges with

They're just too good

[chilly bolt]

Sentry

Obviously

[latent glacier]

Uh

Nuh uh

[chilly bolt]

Have you seen 23 sentry turrets on my wuling site

[latent glacier]

How do you have 23 when the limits are 10

[chilly bolt]

Limit is 13

Then you have another 10 shared from friends

[latent glacier]

Ah

I don't have friends 😔

[signal sundial]

i did it!!

i finally had the luck skill and awareness to stagger and recall spears

[olive mauve]

how does this work

[drifting quest]

try it and let us know

its either free or a -1 but rounded

[daring dove]

Not worth it, ask for a refund

[olive mauve]

It wasn't -1 got it completely free

[midnight stirrup]

Free? In my gacha??

[unreal light]

So 1 percent of 90 is 0.9

Which got rounded down lmao

[summer flower]

phys + avyenna? or avyenna team?

[signal sundial]

just regular avyw

[tough roost]

Have anyone done wulf frontier set?

[drifting quest]

purely for combo cdr?

[tough roost]

Yeah

Faster cycle, more stacks

Felt like wulf combo cd is the main anchor of the cycle

And for a non p5 wulf, you dont really use his ult much

[drifting quest]

1. so at m2 or lower it's 20 > 17s which is pretty nothingburger
2. it still is reliant on sp more than his cd thanks to proc condition, so 3s is even less of a gamechanger

19>16s is the same issue

maybe there's some timeline for non p5 wulf that can get value out of it but none of the ones i can think of are making use of it

[echo ibex]

Guys who works better
Ember or Chen with lifeng, pog, Da pan

[drifting quest]

chen

by quite a large margin

if you want to run ember you drop either lifeng or pog

[echo cove]

Ember stagger build, how good is that team rn?

Idk who's the expert on that field cos iirc most of the info is from cn

Also who the hell drop pog, u crazy?

[drifting quest]

its not good

but nothing is 'good' if you're forcing ember

relatively speaking, of course

but that's the nature of the tc channel

same applies to dps ember

its quite bad relative to alternatives

clears just fine but anything can

[olive mauve]

Lowk how do i get more stuff to upgrade operators

i dont have any sanity left and i still have to upgrade all my operators and their weapons to lvl 90

[potent hornet]

the crisis drills

thats your only option really

[olive mauve]

Dont they cost like sanity

[potent hornet]

credit store will drip feed you daily

yerp

[chilly bolt]

any chance you're building phys?

[olive mauve]

so i cant do that too

[potent hornet]

you can go hunt down more chests if you haven't done that. you will get protoset/hedrons through there

[olive mauve]

maybe

[echo cove]

Amber does give more stagger tho, but i understand what u meant.

[olive mauve]

alr got all chests

[potent hornet]

yea credit store is your only real alternative

i'm in the same boat

tho i still need to grab like 40 more chests in wuling

[chilly bolt]

i mean if you already spent all of the sanity pots then you should have a good amount of M3s and lvl90s

[summer flower]

i have like 14 to use in this weekend

[potent hornet]

oh yea i'm doing fine

i probably mis spent in more than a couple of places

[modest thorn]

Nah it’s crazy how some ppl have run out of crowns

[summer flower]

or they'll go puff

[chilly bolt]

im actually running out of crowns

[summer flower]

before recent events? not that crazy

[chilly bolt]

only 18 left

[potent hornet]

crowns?

[modest thorn]

18 is not running out

[olive mauve]

all my lvl 90s are lava cake wulfguard only and my lvl 80 avywenna yvonne gilberta akekuri almost antal and dapan

[summer flower]

mark of jam

[olive mauve]

i can get more stuff from stock redistribution but im low on valley stock bills

like really low

[chilly bolt]

after i get 2 more M3s it's gonna be 6 left so yes im running out

[modest thorn]

I’ve lowk been overflowing cause I’m too lazy to max my base

[summer flower]

protocol space for mats for masteries is one that's best right?

[olive mauve]

i spent my daily 7M on t-creds and advanced cognitive carrier

naw man im buying upgrade protocol pass

and im running low on T-creds too

[umbral galleon]

Imma need that next BP only 300k creds left

I'll probably just spam t creds for the sanity event

[olive mauve]

what does the chest on the protocol pass that costs 9,99$ give

does it give like rlly good rewards

[chilly bolt]

it's jackshit

[olive mauve]

DAMN IT

[chilly bolt]

10-30 oroberyl

if you lucky you get protohydron

that's it

[umbral galleon]

Gives tcreds and exp mats sometimes

[summer flower]

maybe its worth in mats? but not sure

[chilly bolt]

but uh all the mats before that is worth tho

[drifting quest]

her teams can average less stagger overall

[chilly bolt]

very worth

[drifting quest]

depends on some factors

[summer flower]

and sanity

[olive mauve]

only good thing here is the arms isnp and ACC

[summer flower]

but might be low pull value

[olive mauve]

the bad part is. I cant even get more oroberyl

[umbral galleon]

Don't you get crowns too for the protocol pass

[summer flower]

that's purple skill right?

yea those are value

i spent plenty of stamina on those

[olive mauve]

i need to pull more for more arsenal tickets

cuz im 2 pulls away from gilberta's signature

[chilly bolt]

lmao

[olive mauve]

weapon

[potent hornet]

yea i still have 41 crowns

[summer flower]

Ember Battack M3

[umbral galleon]

That drought though

[chilly bolt]

reminds me when i sparked laevatin, living in poverty

took me a while to recover back to 40k oroberyl

[olive mauve]

HOW THE HELL DID U GET 40K

[chilly bolt]

skill

[summer flower]

those are gold chests?

at what many chest expected oberyl value would be better than montlhy pass?

[olive mauve]

exchange create-o-surprise L chests

THATS WHAT THE PASS GIVES???

FOR ONLY 9,99???

[umbral galleon]

Yeah worth

[chilly bolt]

can u send me a link to this

[umbral galleon]

That's easy 1200 stamina saver too

[chilly bolt]

navigating on wiki is a pain

[olive mauve]

uhh can i post the link here

[chilly bolt]

ye

[olive mauve]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Exchange_Crate-o-Surprise_(L)

here it is

[umbral galleon]

I wish the sanity tickets were 10 standard pulls

[dry mason]

@dry kindle Is LR YVonne even a thing

I kinda made a rotation for them, kinda fast clear on Marble too

[summer flower]

yea, sanity... why not standar oulls

[olive mauve]

what should i do now like i dont have anything to do ingame

[umbral galleon]

wait till 1.1

[olive mauve]

when is it?

march 1st?

[umbral galleon]

When yvonne banner ends i guess

[olive mauve]

im not waiting 12d

too lazy

[chilly bolt]

you need 174 levels of paid battle pass to get the same amount of oroberyl as monthly

[summer flower]

how much time left?

[olive mauve]

12d

and 3h

[summer flower]

uff

that 3hours saves situation

[safe nymph]

yo if i were to build catcher what would be the best weapon and gear for him

[summer flower]

otherwise it would be undoable

[olive mauve]

😭

[safe nymph]

im thinking sundered prince ?

[summer flower]

why sundered?

[olive mauve]

idk why i hate him as much as my class😔

[safe nymph]

stagger?

[olive mauve]

In what team is catcher even good on

[summer flower]

solo cather?

[umbral galleon]

Solo

[safe nymph]

solo carry catcher

yeah

him with breach

[valid zealot]

From the Catcher guy™ it's Examplar.

[safe nymph]

to maximize his potential man

[umbral galleon]

Gonna need that 6 star catcher glowup

[summer flower]

why exemplar?

people are having dreams about swordmancer

[potent hornet]

the ability on exemplar works great for him

[valid zealot]

Idk the Catcher guy™ uses it.

[chilly bolt]

dango mentioned

[valid zealot]

I trust professionals.

[summer flower]

Soon

5/12

[safe nymph]

dps ember

[chilly bolt]

bro is a dreamy fan

[pure spoke]

is that a horns reference

[summer flower]

?

[pure spoke]

nvm i was tripping. i thought forward march was horns theme song but it was March on!

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-confused-scratching-head-gif-13701752054283237681

[tough roost]

Im running into issues where my second cycle is blocked by wulf cd timer. It takes less than 20 seconds to do a sequence of lae n5 > arde combo > arde skill > lae combo > lae ebs

Although i would be at 0 sp after the cycle, thats kinda fixed when i ake ult before lae ebs

[drifting quest]

are you overflowing with sp to the point of being able to fit in 100sp more in 17s

[tough roost]

So now im reset with 2 sp that i cant use

Idk how it happens, its just an issue i ran into once in a while

Usually sp deficit is the main issue

[drifting quest]

if you're at an sp deficit then frontiers on wulf is only going to make it worse if you're somehow making use of that 3s

[supple wedge]

does anyone know if ultimate reduction cost from potential is shown in skill description pls?

like xaihi has -10% ultimate cost with P2, does her ult cost 80 or 72?

[buoyant yoke]

tooltip is not updated iirc

[echo cove]

Where dango

[glass birch]

None of the potential effects are shown in skill details

[craggy pond]

they should've put potential effects inside of a parenthesis or sth

[supple wedge]

Ok I think I might be miscalculating something but idk where:

• my xaihi is pot5 -> her ult should cost 80 -10% = 72
• I'm trying to get her ult after 4 skills (2 xaihi + 2 yvonne) + 2 xaihi combo and from what I understood it should generate 46 xaihi ult energy? (4x6.5 + 2x10)
• She then needs at least 156,5% ultimate gain efficiency (72/46 = 1,565)
  My xaihi has 157.4% ultimate gain and fails to get her ult by a few pixels

I'm either miscalculating or misunderstanding smthg

[drifting quest]

do you have an sp refund from somewhere

[supple wedge]

yes yvone P4

[valid zealot]

IremWaitaMeowment

That's the problem.

[drifting quest]

thats the issue

[valid zealot]

Returned sp does not generate energy.

[drifting quest]

you need to compensate with extra ult gain

45.35 energy

[supple wedge]

ok so yvonne skill with the sp refund generate 90x0,065 ultimate energy?

[valid zealot]

yh

[supple wedge]

thanks

[drifting quest]

after the sp refund the next skill will only be generating 90% yes

[valid zealot]

it's stupid.

Sadge

[drifting quest]

it makes energy calcs giga awkward

[valid zealot]

Usually u can tweak ur regen a lil to hit the req.

Then there's Lae.

[supple wedge]

Ok 2nd question, how does gilberta 1st talent works? doesn't it juste gives ultimate gain efficiency to guard/caster/supporter?

[drifting quest]

yes

[supple wedge]

is it displayed in the stats of other characters?

[drifting quest]

no, iirc

[supple wedge]

with the sp refund I need 161% (72/44,7) ultimate gain on xaihi, I have gilberta on the field and 157,4 ultimate gain and still missing my ult by a few pixel

but from what I understand xaihi should have 157.4 + 7 ultimate gain?

[drifting quest]

check your uge from pieces and see if it is including the 7% or not

[valid zealot]

Strip her see if the 7% is there.

[supple wedge]

it's here thanks 👍

[drifting quest]

ive never bothered to check i just thought i remembered someone in subserver saying it wasnt included and messed calcs

gg

[supple wedge]

lmao, pot isn't included but another char's talent is

that's messed up

thanks a lot

[summer flower]

?

[supple wedge]

I meant this

[royal knoll]

anyone got a complete farming manual? the list

[pulsar sail]

**Valley IV ** (16 plots)
Tartpepper
Citrome -> Umbraline
Buckflower -> Firebuckle
[Reed Rye]
Wuling (20 plots)
Redjade Genseng
Amber Rice
Jincao -> Fluffed
Yanzhen -> Thorny

This what your looking for?, for Valley IV I plant 8 Tartpepper's, and 4 plots for all other plants.

[chilly bolt]

Reed rye is valley

[pulsar sail]

wait what?

[chilly bolt]

Yeah i also thought it's wuling before

But it's valley

[pulsar sail]

I did find it strange that its water upkeep was different, but Valley? I could have sworn I could only pick it in Wuling, I need to double check really quick, through that would allow me to plant 5 of each items instead of 4.

[summer flower]

Valley?

Not both at best?

Unless you mean planting type

[lilac bloom]

is level 90 worth it for endmin

credit cost is kinda insane

[drifting quest]

yes but like

see if tangtang is the replacement first

[midnight stirrup]

Did they drip market

No right

[drifting quest]

no

[midnight stirrup]

Sadge

[drifting quest]

first we'll see is this sunday

[midnight stirrup]

Souka souka

[drifting quest]

hoping to be there for it live

[leaden mantle]

can Gilberta's + ardelia's arts suciptiblities stack? like say for example, you apply ardelia's arts debuff and then you ult with Gilberta, would that result in a 50%+ arts suciptiilibty debuff?

[drifting quest]

yes

[midnight stirrup]

What shuo said

Its why lr speedrun tends to use gilb and ardelia together every so often

[royal knoll]

i got it, thanks

[leaden mantle]

Is like a stagger speedrun?

[olive mauve]

bruh

[midnight stirrup]

I think so yeah

But rhod staggers really easily regardless

And LR has a lot of stagger in her kit alongside perlica

[edgy crater]

more like world event clue

the blight really getting closer

[midnight stirrup]

The blight the least interesting thing to me about Wuling rn

But im curious to see how theyll develop the story around it

[edgy crater]

well, its probably like world raid or some sort

[midnight stirrup]

Ashdagir gives very much those bad guys from Wuwa

Forgot the name

[midnight stirrup]

Broooooo imagine they add raids

But no coop sadge

Hopefully they add it

[edgy crater]

i mean, they can

raid hp on global scale lmao

[midnight stirrup]

Zzz added coop so akef can too

[edgy crater]

like fgo did

[midnight stirrup]

Wait

Thats kinda cool

Playing alongside players would be cool tho

[leaden mantle]

does gilberta have good stagger in her kit?

[midnight stirrup]

Like a coop domain where u enter the area with the boss

[midnight stirrup]

Dont think so no idrk

[edgy crater]

well hope they do dat

jp bro will kill any node with most needed material

[leaden mantle]

is 30 stagger a lot or low?

[rich widget]

30 stagger is more than 20 and less than 40

[warm galleon]

4 players with 3 SP
I'll be spamming combat skill so entire squad has nothing to use

[outer ermine]

[tawny kayak]

Do we know if Corrosion or Electrification are more potent? I know one is fragility and the other resistance, but I cant tell which is more impactful or if they end up equal in calculation

[warm galleon]

Corrosion is base on the target's stat, so the lower their stat is the more worthless it is, but if it's higher then it could be better.

[tawny kayak]

I believe resistance is additive, and you can actually go into negative resistance

Ope nvm, I think that only applies to laevatain passive

[leaden mantle]

how much stagger does 20% effiency add on to the 20 stagger?

[tawny kayak]

My guess would be 4pts

[craggy pond]

if the base resistance is none, then electricication is better since it doesn't take time to ramp up

but at the same time corrosion is currently like a separate multiplier since it's like the only one affecting resistance

[rich widget]

less than 30% but more than 10%

[craggy pond]

while electrification can be diluted with other dmg taken% debuffs

[tawny kayak]

So for instance, enemies with D resistance effectively already have 0? Does corrosion do nothing here?

[craggy pond]

no, you can say it goes into the negative

it's very confusing to explain, so i'll just use examples

corrosion just gets added to the multiplier like any regular multiplier

don't overthink it

so if the base is D or 1x, corrosion with 0.12 will make that 1.12

[tawny kayak]

Taking 12% more damage

[craggy pond]

the nuance comes when for example it starts from 0.8x

so corrosion making it 0.92 is actually more potent

than if the resistance started at 1x

in terms of percentage

[tawny kayak]

I appreciate you. How is it that electrification gets diluted if all of these modifiers are basically multiplied together?

[craggy pond]

because there are other sources of dmg taken% in the game

outside of electrification

it's diminishing returns

but it's still pretty rare

[drifting quest]

its not diminishing returns

its just opportunity cost

important distinction

[craggy pond]

i mean in terms of total dmg then it is opportunity cost

because that could go to another less diluted mulriplier

[drifting quest]

yes

it never has diminishing returns

only opportunity cost to take other multipliers

[craggy pond]

i only use that term because most people would understand if i say diminishing returns, vs the correct textbook term

[tawny kayak]

Ahh I see. So in my whole reference, im trying to evaluate corrosion 4 from gilberta or electrification 4 from Arclight. Arts intensity not considered they both do the same thing vs a 1x resistance enemy?

[craggy pond]

it's the wrong term, but it conveys the idea

[drifting quest]

corrosion 4 is better because you can maintain corrosion 4 with corrosion 1
whereas you require electrification 4 every time to get the same bonus

[tawny kayak]

Thats a super valid point, and can be coupled easily with Perlicas combo

[drifting quest]

a weaker corrosion extends the duration of a stronger one, not overwriting it

which isnt the case for any other

[tawny kayak]

I appreciate you all. Ive got the community document from 666bj/sten but its mighty wordy

[drifting quest]

do sanity pots expire on sunday reset or monday reset

[midnight stirrup]

Everyone gets their own SP id assume in a raid

[rich widget]

raid content actually a proposed thing by the devs?

[leaden mantle]

can you use 2 shielder battle skills at the same time?

[bronze plume]

id hope not

[midnight stirrup]

No

Were just thinking of stuff

[edgy crater]

nope, its just similar to how other game handle world crouching event

[rich widget]

it is a shame it'll likely never be a thing given the existing team comp oreintated design

[bronze plume]

its not a shame at all

even the little amounts of coop gachas have 90% of the time people dont care to coordinate anything useful team wise or strategy wise

[rich widget]

some player interaction would go a long way

[craggy pond]

i can see yvonne & lr mains fighting for cryo stacks

[bronze plume]

if its raid only that would be even worse

for raid content to exist people would need to be bothered to actually try and learn which gacha players are not known for

there would be a good chance for a high majority of players to not even engage with it in the first place

this isnt a mmo where raids are mandatory for endgame content

just leave coop to hopefully be optional in certain event

because holy is the majority of mandatory coop event in gachas still a pain in the ass

[rich widget]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-a-wall-gif-9702424950693960694

[bronze plume]

yes im explaining to the brick wall why raid content in a gacha is never a good idea

[rich widget]

no such thing as good ideas

[bronze plume]

well thats a lie

[edgy crater]

it does work on some degree, just look at fgo did

barbatos in 4 hour lmao

[bronze plume]

yes in some very small way itll work

but the good would not outweigh the bad for a gacha to have raids

granted if it gave 5 morbillion pulls im all for it

Final Fantasy 14: Arknights Endfield

[edgy crater]

ah yeah, the falling moon

[bronze plume]

its always the moons

in endfield itll be terra

just crashing down

[midnight stirrup]

True

Mmos kinda demand you to know what youre doing or ur cooked

[neat snow]

I remember the coop raids in dragalia lost. You either got some Japanese guy who was cracked out of his mind carrying the whole party or you wiped.

[bronze plume]

yeah raid content in gachas would only work doing it with friends

you might get 1/100 tries where you actually get a team that doesnt ask you why is this a thing if randoms

[drifting quest]

genshin weekly boss coop shows all you need to know about raid bosses in gacha

[bronze plume]

now imagine it with a ff14 endgame raid boss

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-gif-21220869

this would hurt the 99% of gacha players brains

[drifting quest]

i wanted to play ff14 story but never found the time

[bronze plume]

valid

id player more if i didnt forgo the whole subscription based system to play my video games

maybe when im rich 🥀

[drifting quest]

subscibe to play stuff is just offputting yeah

if i had the time to do everything i wanted in 1 month id maybe be fine with paying it once but

[neat snow]

It's cheaper than gacha

[rich widget]

whoomans are funny

[pure spoke]

partyfinder in endfield

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-pain-big-chungus-chungus-gif-20705095

[twilit quail]

dont worry, everything good it has to offer is also sandwiched by inane fetch quests and other miscellaneous dogshit that has no reason to be there

[bronze plume]

its just like gachas when you think about it

[leaden mantle]

say if you have 4 cryo inflections on an enemy and you put electrification on them does that increase the dmg output of the electrifciation? Are there actually levels to it?

[rich widget]

life is a gacha

you pull until youre broke

[rich widget]

Ju noticed there's actually event guides... as if this game has any content challenging enough for anyone older than a toddler

[bronze plume]

its just for those who cant be asked looking for the chests

the poor children are diluted due to the 67 to be able to pay attention to the game 🥀

[rich widget]

They barely need to be looked for, may aswell be huge neon signs pointing them out given there's only going to be alternate paths where there's a chest

[bronze plume]

i missed i think 4

cuz i dont care for them

put pull in them smh

[rich widget]

Eitherway, im kinda disappointed with how child orientated the game is

[bronze plume]

welcome to a gacha game

[rich widget]

No difficulty and infantile story

Arknights had some challenge and some interesting story

[bronze plume]

tbf the story was bad for the first like 2-3 years

granted youd think they wouldve learned

[gritty briar]

it was but it still felt like there was a point to it more than endfield's

I dont remember the entire first half of v4 tbh

[bronze plume]

what even is endfields

the blight or something

[rich widget]

"Robo tata baba no work, he need smiles and laughter to finish, can you find all the smiles?"

[gritty briar]

i dont know what plot points i was supposed to care about aside from tata exploding

[bronze plume]

the dude that dipped probably

[gritty briar]

at least in arknights i'm aware that chernobog getting destroyed and misha dying or whatever was supposed to be the emotional hook, even if it didn't work for me

[bronze plume]

but the robot went kabomb isnt that so sad

[rich widget]

Eitherway, im likely out in a week or two, it's just so disappointing... not at all a fitting spin off to arknights for me

[gritty briar]

there is no way anyone remembers any plot points from the first half of v4 story before that explosion happened in the background

[bronze plume]

the first part of the story i remember is the explosion

before that its just throwing factory tutorial at you

[gritty briar]

it was just literal hours of blanking out until suddenly boom

[rich widget]

'I like pizza'

Biggest bit of plot I remember before explosion

[bronze plume]

biggest bit of plot i remember

is the grave names in the toturial

[rich widget]

Most of it was just a kids tv show

[gritty briar]

i remember perlica rode on a motorcycle

[rich widget]

Like Dora the explora level story

[gritty briar]

to somewhere

idk who the target audience could be then cause idk what kid has the attention span for this

[rich widget]

Me neither

Really confused who they're trying to cater to

[bronze plume]

its not hes just exaggerating

valley 4s story is just poorly made

[rich widget]

Certainly not the people who played arknights

I had high hopes when I saw factory system, which is cool n all... but then everything else is just kinda dumb and child like

[peak void]

Honestly aether and blight and whatever is such a boring concept rn

its just originium but useless

[dry kindle]

I mean with enough mald everything is a thing rn 🗿

[odd sentinel]

I mean, its just introducing a common enemy

[peak void]

at least ppl had a real reason to keep interacting with originium

blight is just a problem

[peak void]

we already had that and they just downplayed it to “yea we have suppresants”

[rich widget]

Guess we'll find out if they recognise how child like their game is in march and whether they plan to mature it a bit... not like they can't still have cutesy stuff between some serious story

[dry kindle]

Nothing ever happens

[odd sentinel]

if we compared it to genshin, blight is the abyss, and originium are somewhat like visions

[rich widget]

Itd be interesting if they made wuling into a sort of dystopian utopia built on endmins prior despotic tendency... that it's not as shiny and glossy as it appears and that their leader isn't some picture perfect cutesy do gooder

[odd sentinel]

I picture a place more slums like with this

[rich widget]

Like endmin and zhuang had some kind of light yagami x misa dynamic going on

Needs some kind of real grit and not this cartoon good n evil shite

[peak void]

There is no genshin-adjacent to originium

[midnight stirrup]

It is but LR costs SP and doesnt buff

Ashel or whatever holds termite and only casts ult

[peak void]

originium is an economically important ore that provides power and is used in a lot of products, but can cause grave disease

[odd sentinel]

I know, I just used visions only because of the effects they induce if they get their visions taken away, and their origins being deep rooted somewhere

[midnight stirrup]

The abyss

[peak void]

Well that is if you take it away

[midnight stirrup]

Closest thing

[odd sentinel]

blight is more equivalent to abyss

[edgy crater]

aint more like, yvonne just deal with trash then do nothing after the boss

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym

[edgy crater]

yvonne lr thing

[midnight stirrup]

Yea ig so

[odd sentinel]

though I suppose from another perspective, originium could be as well

[edgy crater]

like on marble yvonne lr team, yvonne mostly good at clearing tentacles

[midnight stirrup]

I think LR clears tentacles faster than Yvonne tbh

But I might be wrong

[drifting quest]

yvonne solving an issue we already had units for

[edgy crater]

cant tell

[drifting quest]

a classic

[midnight stirrup]

Like LR deals a lot of damage on tentacles quick

Kill one with skill and some bas, then combo on the next one

[midnight stirrup]

Real

Like theres no content where im like yea Yvonne outshines LR here

At all

And I own both

[edgy crater]

probably if u do atk cancel

[midnight stirrup]

Yea but u should always atk cancel on LR

Or ur just gimping urself

[edgy crater]

yeah, dats true

[midnight stirrup]

Its easy as hell to do

And skips a whole ba animation

[edgy crater]

can do it too but not with my ass latop

[midnight stirrup]

High ping?

[edgy crater]

stutter

[midnight stirrup]

Oh that sucks yeah

[edgy crater]

sometimes its lose the whole atk sequence too

[midnight stirrup]

Although thats not ur specific issue

This is why I prefer ps5

If a game is on there it runs it relatively to really well

Pc is always a gamble of can I still run it

[edgy crater]

w8, its not hardware issue?

[dry mason]

Apparently I found a rotation for them by myself

Cleared Marble at 2m20s

But Yvonne gears aren't maxed yet so I decided to wait next restock

[odd wren]

I think fastest marble clear I've seen so far is yvonne

1:34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNGUSh03Zzc

[midnight stirrup]

What works works

But u prob get a faster time with hyper lr

[odd wren]

I wonder if my p5 wedge can do this

[midnight stirrup]

Hifumi is crazy with LR

Bro hits 1m+

Single hit

[odd wren]

I don't have artzy

[edgy crater]

hifu still malding

[midnight stirrup]

Genuinely will never be as good as Hifumi

Bro is the goat on LR

His clears are fast af

[odd wren]

[midnight stirrup]

I got it in 40 pulls

Believe

[dry mason]

Kinda take ages to clear tentacles

I don't even know why I built Yvonne

When I had p2 LR

[midnight stirrup]

It doesnt trust me

You just gotta know how to best approach it

Remind me tomorrow when I got access to my ps5

And ill record

[elfin smelt]

the gyatt is too strong

[dry mason]

But you have to farm Ult energy for the core anw ?

Ult on 1st tentacle

Then

Triple combo on 3 tentacles ?

[midnight stirrup]

I went in with ult farmed and didnt use ult until marble becomes humanoid

I didnt use ults in tentacle phase

[dry mason]

Isn't it slower

[midnight stirrup]

Nah

[digital ruin]

Guys, If bosses can't get lifted, do they take more stagger when lifted?

[gritty briar]

pretty sure they just take the usual stagger and damage from lift

[pliant python]

is crit better to build on perlica?

[gritty briar]

Is there some set of speedrun rules that have been standardized or something? been seeing a lot of runs where people go behind rhodagn and start timer on first hit

[edgy crater]

its first to aggro

[odd wren]

Nah haha yvonne is just like my sub team but not using her still atm im good with my endmin

[odd wren]

When the hp bar shows, thats the usual start timer

[umbral galleon]

medal has animation

[odd wren]

Zamn you building your harem

[gritty briar]

actually is there a speedrun leaderboard anywhere?

surely there'd be some chinese community leaderboard or something