#theorycrafting
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it amounts to saying "this character is worthless and should never be used"
technically fluorite is almost always going to be a bad pick for cryo teams
you always get more value out of another slot than her, but having her somewhere to showcase she can be used has some merit
maybe have some indication of her being lower prio than ake

that's the best thing I can think of without actually just nuking her
not much we can do on the tier list, like I guess we could put ake over arclight? there's been no thought historically to the ordering
can't do the icon size thing?
but I can suggest for the tier list updates to maybe have it as an unspoken rule of sorts to maybe order it
I'd have to ask
would probably look very weird though, at this point it'd need some kind of
separate UI element to specify "the best team" or something, that'd be what the tier list placement is based on
I don't really do the tier lists tbh I'm more of a writer but
I can float some ideas around and see what thoughts are
alright cool
it's a bit weird though cause thinking about it
let's say yvonne
perlica mogs alesh in single burst scenarios or 100 ult energy starts
but alesh is way better for extended rotations
so like, both stay big and then snowshine/fluorite stay small? if it's a second line to indicate the ideal team would it still have both?

before or after gambling 🗿
just win
before
every assumption is always p0p0
alesh can still be good at 100 ult energy starts since he enables xaihi talent
that p5 15s rho kill was alesh instead of perlica
but it entirely skipped final strikes because it had so much damage that it didn't need it
unless there's a p0p0 run that's killing without a single final strike use that I haven't seen 
oh
you meant rare fin
🗿
lmao
dies
too much gambling in this game
no rng alesh is kinda still better if its yvonne
just generally, since perlica isn't providing any stack build so rotations are really slow
ye
turns out yvonne is just that ass that she requires the sp to function
even basic attacking is gamba
you have time to build x2 thermite stacks and it speeds up rotations massively, both from free cryo and as shuo says SP
the rotations get giga cooked without sp regen due to their cost / length
I've had avy miss final strike for no reasons way too much
perlica is slooooooooooooooow as fuck, but her full arts intensity + stanza burst is pretty nuts
like the fastest kills I've seen of the latest umbral
don't even bother with yvonne ult
just kill with the finisher on stagger

LTG Perlica
so it depends on rot length
dps perlica is pretty fire
the more i see it
I'm already shoving intensity on my ange
she slots into basically any arts team and can help clear out trash
ye
with how low HP things are currently
oblivion perlica not even a meme, esp on elec
she drops ult and that's one wave gone
I have both oblivion and det unit maxed
det unit probably going to be best for most scenarios but if you need that perlica burst
or you're doing stuff like perli/antal on elec
where antal gets det unit
oblivion can be worthwhile
and of course
pure dps perlica is gaming
why does she have crit as one of her used stats though, p5 giving crit on ult
if its not waves of aoe trash dps perlica value drops a decent chunk
the world if fangyi can use oblivion
I can't man
since most bossing content is looping burst windows
I think maygi had some calcs
that even in single target scenarios on elec team with antal
oblivion was competitive with wild wanderer
det unit blows it out of the water but
20 more days of a banner i don't care about it's so over
yeah I tested it myself, dmg% is so insanely over saturated wild wanderer didn't actually contribute too much
i wanted to do the math on it but its at the bottom of my list
pulser for dps perl seems
slab mentioned
always has been
the stone that perlica uses on her finisher
int main stat, slab-able
i mean i can see it but idk if its winning

if you actually use her finisher in rotation
talos wiki removed the gear tab from the main menu
her damage is sizable in the team
im going to crash out
its what
what
time to use prydwen
khang the prydwen shill
tide fall
pulser
mi security
bonekrusha

the sets ive seen people running on her
idea is bone gives ult gain on chest
has some will and int on some pieces
i have a question about essence. are there different gold essence? why am i getting lower max level for yvonne weapon essence while laev weapon has 9 and 9
does max level matter?
until i check math
tune level
level dictates how many pips are available
your weapon uncap/level impacts the maximum essence
ah
Gun isnt tuned to max
so i need weapon at max to get
9
9
3
?
ya
80/90 works
80/90 unlocks max pips
With 663 essence you get 994 weapon
you need max tune to get it not max level, big difference
This but to be fair, if it's a damage dealers main weapon just 90/90 it. there's no reason to mess around scrimping resources on Base ATK.
if i have the resource, i would do this
if you're poor its fine to sit 80/90
but from what i know, the game is gatekeeping us pretty hard
and all resource already went to laev team, so i poor now

It takes time, getting a weapon from 80 unlocking it an improving it to 90 is about 3 days worth of sanity I reckon.
WE ARE BACK TO MONAIHE ASPIRANT QUENCHER
that is if you have enough T-creds
perlica dps is so funny 
surely this is not a coincidence
please no
i dont have shit for stanza
where is this btw (link pls)
my personal sheet
oh well
i use it just for random ass calcs
Weekly Rotation 6* 5* Date
1 Grand Vision Wild Wanderer Jan 22nd
2 Oblivion OBJ Edge of Lightness Jan 29th
3 Valiant OBJ Velocitous Feb 5th
4 Clannibal OBJ Arts Identifier Feb 12th
5 Detonation Unit 12 Questions Feb 19th
6 Former Finery Finchaser 3.0 Feb 26th
7 Eminent Repute OBJ Razorhorn March 5th
8 March 12th
9 March 19th
10 March 26th
11 April 2nd
12 April 9th
13 April 16th
14 April 23rd
15 April 30th
Daily Rotation 5* 5* 4*
1 Monaihe Aspirant Quencher
2 Chimeric Justice Aspirant Howling Guard
? Freedom to Proselytize OBJ Edge of Lightness Industry 0.1
Seeker of Dark Lung Rational Farewell Howling Guard
Fortmaker Opus the Living Pathfinders Beacon
Ancient Canal 12 Questions Hypernova Auto
? Wild Wanderer Finchaser 3.0 Quencher
Stanza of Memorials OBJ Velocitous Aggeloslayer
Sundering Steel OBJ Heavy Burden Fluorescent Roc
OBJ Velocitous Finchaser 3.0 Contingent Measure
Stanza of Memorials Finishing Call Industry 1.0
Fortmaker OBJ Razorhorn Howling Guard
Seeker of Dark Lung Cohesive Traction Aggeloslayer
Sundering Steel Freedom to Proselytze Hypernova Auto
Monaihe Ancient Canal Wave Tide
I'mma try it at some point, but making Perlica 90 & giving her crowns alongside leveling Oblvion to 90 is fairly low on my priority list.
peak formatting
have we got any news or leaks about arknights og operator coming?
what are they?
absolutely nothing
especially considering during a dev blog iirc they said they dont want to do skins
making skins in a 3d game vs 2d game 
entirely different game genre
some type of crit user
we can maybe guess but not accurately especially given things could change
2d is miles easier than 3d
i mean yeah, it would push their revenue further and making wallets even thinner
totally understandable, xp and skill mats are quite limited for now 
but true it would be a pain to do so
on my hands and knees for ake powercreep
they'll make it paid if they do anyway
Rossi Sig Weapon Essence in the 1.0 Files is ||AGI/CRIT/FRACTURE|| but that could change.
This would imply she is ||probably some sort of striker, if we take Yvonne as a precedent. But it actually means nothing because Fracture skill line just means it's effect is proc'd on crit. She could be any class still. We are just guessing she is probably some sort of crit carry akin to Yvonne.||
do the weapon skill prefix even have a meaning
again it basically means nothing
oh i'm pretty sure many won't mind paying
2nd heat striker would be kinda nutty
if i had to guess. prolly fast paced like clorinde from genshin with a child body
based from that one cutscene
or could be something like camellya or carlotta
idk, or could be like lupa, signature weapon is a claymore but she only uses it for plunge atk, the rest with her polearm lmao
paid gacha skins 
my highest single hit with ember so far, cant wait till i finnaly get sundered prince
Brutality - On Vulnerability consumption/application
Combatitive - On Physical Status application
Crusher - On Final Strike
Detonate - Weird one. 2 are on Arts Burst, 1 is on Cryo Infliction, 1 is on Infliction Consumption.
Efficacy - Debuffs (Protected, Knocked Down/Weakened, Susceptibility)
Flow - On SP generation
Fracture - On Crit
Infliction - Apply/Consume different reactions/inflictions
Inspiring - Arts Intensity stat stick
Medicant - HP Treatment
Pursuit - Combo Skill Applies [Reaction/Status/Burst]
Suppression - Different Skill Cast/Hit/Applications
Twilight - On Ultimate cast
should be the full list
minus the 3* weapon ones
cool
i don't mind waiting nor paying for the skins
still having high hopes from playing ark og
I hope they just don't release skins
plenty of good skins even if they are 2Ds
as grim as it might sound, inevitably they will release some skins. it's just more revenue generation for them
most modern ak skins are whatever quality wise, I'm doubting until they do something good
is there a better sword for Endmin than Grand Vision?
no
no to me?
yes
sure they could do something about the skins, maybe like how they monetize skins
they did propose a different gacha system, something new unlike other previous gacha games
so we'll see
if they do decide to go down skins route, good. if not, that's okay
how it'll happen: paid skins because that's how mhy does it
are we still ignoring they said they dont want to do skins
true, or they could do worse. like how girls frontline 2 now have skins gacha system
chen best essence?
yeah and ak didn't want to do too many limited banners
the one that's 3/3 for her weapon
see how that turned out
ok we can come back in 2-4 years
i'm not ignoring them. skins are a source of revenue, and unfortunately we live in a world where big companies NEVER stick to their word. they will lie just to make money
so many things that aren't a good idea are in this game just because they're copying the modern gacha formula
🛌
it's just a matter of when and how much will it cost
they've made tons of money at launch. surely they wanted more
don't believe me, screenshot what i said and we'll come back in a year from now
skins are just valuable dev time they wont want to split at this time to go back on something they said so recently
sure maybe it changes in a year, two years, more
it also doesn't help that ak models and textures are, kinda insanely detailed
but its a pointless conversation atp
so that's a lot of investment
exactly why i said come back in a year. even if they said they won't do skins. i don't believe them
base AK can make so many skins because the artists are externally hired freelancers
usually gacha models are much lower quality, even the best ones
exactly, i have made my points here and still stand by it. they will make skins and some of us will find it attractive/adorable/etc and swipe their hard earn cash
too bad lots of people just g00n every bit of skin they see now
genshin, hsr, wuwa and zzz skins are mostly poorly recieved on average so I wouldn't be shocked if they dont bother ever
the cheap skins are bad quality, the good quality skins are too expensive
see wuwa and its what $30 skins
like i said, they make skins, good. they don't, also good. it's just a matter of waiting game
ak skins would probably be even more expensive with how high quality endfield models are compared to the competitions lol
and origeometry has to go somewhere, either people convert it to pulls (very not worth it). or they wait it out for skins
i agree
they just make the skins in packs instead
so
always paid
can swap to a second swordmancer flint
?
oh its the cr mask not the stagger% one
even more reason
get a second flint on there
better?
yeah
awesome thanks
uhm this enemy have low eletric res?
No. You strong you good.

could it be possible that we get red tier materials later on considering we only have yellow tier in Wuling so far? Meaning the level cap could be raised?

blud rolls up with 9+ buffs worth of arts damage and electric damage and asks if the boss has low electric res 
hmm my essence is pretty ok for now
could be better
Don’t whale/dolphin on standard banner it’s suboptimal
i need her p5 now, i want this ult to always crit
Kinda not in the long run, since once you get them all P5 you can start converting their tokens into signature 6* weapons. Plus it's early game where resources are the most tight. But yeah I'm only 4 potentials away from having everyone maxed. Which means standard banner isn't worth it for me now.
Since I'm going into it with a 60% chance of just getting a weapon token.
I do really want Embers P5 granted, but not enough to go into a banner with only 20% odds of winning.
how much have you spent
Not that much considering, likely around 2k but there are whales who have spent a lot more who have less overall potentials that me. It's just I was really lucky I still haven't pulled a single useless dupe past P5 on a 6* operator yet.

i expected higher
Yeah my account is just incredibly lucky when it comes to pulling potentials to be honest. I'm literally missing a few Pog potentials & 1 Ember potential then everyone single operator is maxed.
but yeah 2k on allat is really generous
rate up is real
might be for endfield idk, im copping hard 
the collab that never was
To be honest the more I think about the resource issues in this game the more I think it's quite easy to fix.
For example they could simply allow us to buy 200k in T-Creds weekly from Valley 4 stock exchange.
there are only resource issues if you cause them
thank you for single handedly funding the game
think about the possibility, introducing "pet" system, custom character from the event, gear cosmetics farm from coop raid or dungeon and since destiny 2 is also about traveling to a lot of planets or galaxy, endfield is perfect for that
I actually fuck with aggressive enemies, makes it way less of a "learn rotation, do rotation" game
only problem is stage 2
where it's not just aggression it's movement
having those bastards line up is such a pain in the asss
banging head agains the wall like I'm in some asylum with restarts to get things to align just ain't it
actually for that question i genuinely said i have no problems w it
sure getting them to line up is optimal but you also dont need to do that to be able to clear
well yeah
this is speedrun context
but if the metric is just "clearing", endgame becomes a bit pointless
like ok I can clear easily
what do I do with the character I spend $100-300 on
optimising and getting better clears, improving at how I play the team

that's the end goal
i mean that's fair
if the game had some kind of scoring system (e.g. zzz DA) then that could be the way to push things, but as it stands speedrunning is the only thing we can do 
yeah i dont want endgame to become as bad as hoyo or wuwa's
but harder would be neat
I wouldn't mind more battles like battle 2
but this one is literally unplayable for some teams

sentenced to playing a normal laev team on stage 2 without a parry
laev wasting her entire ult
I did that like 1.5 hour
i think if they were programmed to never simultaneously charge you it might be more fair idk
but then it's pretty trivial to clear i think
first try
i like that the stages are unique
i hope the trend continues
really separates the game from the others in the genre
yeah this is the biggest draw for me right now
it's not just
"recycled boss/enemy but with a different buff/restriction"
give us max risk cc mald already
And yet there are CC who are calling this umbral " too difficult for 1.0" xD
mainstream cc will say whatever farms the most views
it's hard for any encounter to be too difficult given the 10 minute timer, especially as the only "challenge" can be entirely nullified with a level 20 Snowshine/Catcher 😅
It might seem too hard if you don't know
i dont even know if he is mainstream
Is it worth to get p1 yvonne for energy
If I didn't see that catcher/snowshine just trivialize their stuff
probably not
I wouldn't have known these are very easy to CC
and his excuse is that if he has to time his skills for the burst window during stagger for the 3rd floor crab its too difficult xD
It fixes the 1 energy problem though
there are other ways to get around it
teammate that applies cryo in the future will do that too
1 energy problem doesnt happen if youre playing to burst after setup in normal cycle even
how many pulls do i need to secure a weapon from weapon banner
you need 8 multies
but thats like max pity
Without other sources its like once every 2x 120 pulls
ive never gone past 30
wow lucky
laev was 1 pity
when 1 dies the other should get like +2000% attack and 300% hp regen
and for yvonne i got 2 6 star in 30
I've only ever got to full pity
how fickle lady luck must be
😔
twin knights cc 🔥
The game could use some new enemy designs
unfortunately i got really burnt out on cc i think ever since i tried to do day 1 max risk
yeah ive not had this kinda luck in any other gacha either
im surprised just as much
it took me 150 pulls including free ones across 3 banners for P0 on all 3
but yeah that also means i dont have standard characters
P1 lifeng and P0 Ember
thats all
The only thing I would not want to see
Is something like Dusks event
That dragon that deletes the whole map if you have 1 color wrong 
https://x.com/ajipo/status/2026973402926584242
Rejoice Catcher mains. We save some frames to save
z7 team has 5 member
what's the best team? all in 1 except catcher?
Funniest stuff, it's looks like Catcher have easier time to cancel 
I have seen ember cancel that was removing one of basic attacks before final strike
But I wasn't able to do it
how much damage should enhance basic be doing?
another one?
i think they got honeypot'd
has anyone tried a Set-Less 4-piece Energy Recharge on Pog? Does it work?
overcaps on ER, reduces buffing value
there are technically lines with more er, but exactly how much you chase is something i dont know off the top of my head
this is your skill tho
oh sorry, i meant enhanced skill lol
i have this for enhanced skill with 4 magma and a little corrosion
thats prob incorrect so let me tweak it
BP boxes 14x
580 oro
47.5k tcreds
4 big exp
45 exp
27 wexp
22 protohedron
This is 14x f2p paid and 10 euro bp
reduces buffing value? what? in what way? he has no skills that need Will to buff the party, no?
oh sorry, this is a Combo-Only pog xD
the one consuming Vuls is Panda
If you're combo only (which is not good, relative to other builds, fwiw) then frontiers is typically opted for
why? Panda combo is 20 seconds anyway
and the only one consuming vuls in the team is panda's combo
which is the only way to trigger pogs combo
xDD
it's a bad rotation so it's going to be pure feelscraft
er breakpoints will differ
no value from intensity
no value from damage
you can probably just stack ult gain atp but like
just play breach pog
what does this mean
any good rotations you'd recommend? just out of curiosity
it's in the dmg sheet
Shuo returrrrns
Its when they transcend their dental hygiene
iana's sheet has the precharged ults variant for dapan
ill be eventually setting up stuff for 0 energy starts but it plays roughly similarly
iana's sheet is pinned
has a lot of good info for physical in general
2:24 clear with bad dodging/rotation, but with full int stacking laev
no clue how this performs vs a basic hotwork build
992 int laev
btw
there are more than 1 sheet? 
there's the original shimo one and sten's english one
since laev ebs does combustion
Nice masteries 🔥
oh yes the sten one
No pre sure
ah crap i knew i forgot something
hmm could be aether res yeah
Btw, what's peoples takes on this weapon it seems pretty good to me but I don't see it discussed much?
the finisher did 120k, more than this lol
Imagine calculating 12 dif buffs
Only pog uses it, but thermite exists.
Endmin get GV for .99
used as a stat stick for no gv endmin
thats about it
I guess Endmin isn't consuming stacks in a PHY team?
Both endmin and chen have better sig
Yeah but that isn't giving on average 17.5% ATK to the party right?
Although I guess this is P5
I might end up better than Endmin's weapon if you had say a very strong Lifeng.
if you're a whale and have mb lifeng + potentials on him, have a higher pot repute and a lower pot gv it becomes an option yes
They have everything maxed so doesn't matter
oh man its 8% more damage per mastery it seems, big mistake not upgrading
finisher has 900% MV(m3)+ 1.3 mult due to staggwr
btw does basic attack level matter for ult enhance basic damage?
I actually don't even own it or most of the PHY weapons. Haven't invested there at all. 
Usually they have their own separate multipliers, Laevatain & Yvonne for example have a different multiplier that goes up by leveling ult.
So not really, depends how much time you spend out of your ult.
For Lae no.
maybe if super min-maxing ig it matters since youre out of ult 66% of the time
yeah probs not worth the investment over just getting more units up
that said im gonna max out her ult and skill i guess
i have basics constituing like 30% dmg
It's more if you're building only one team & you've finished all other priority investments kinda upgrade. As a lot of operators have a 900% multiplier on their final strike Laeavatain included.
i have same question too is it better to M3 basic or combo if im gonna M9 laevatin
20 ish rayther
id combo
10s -> 9s be peak fr
i still havent seen something that abuses that, so im gonna hold off personally
i did m9 with combo for her
How often do ai teammates autoattack?
They freaking do the same amount of damage on basic attacks, as if I was playing the character
im still put to wonder if this int stacking is actually better than just hotwork or ult recharge
Hw is more consistent + less “prone” to fuckups
Since most of the damage would be banked during ult and when she skills since you abuse the 110 skill dmg 
Also for a site with so much detail & well formatted information why is this absurd tier list still a thing. 
Double slab forces you to always hit enemies to utilize more attack
But at hgiher pot, charge set wins
Alesh - T1
Acrlight - T2
ight
At 5+0 or 4+4
What is Perlica with Wulfgrad even doing in T2
They are journalists, they job is not to play the game, but to make people want to read their articles for their character is tier S
cuz lin-0 doesnt work on that part
Gotta keep the traffic coming.
Thank you VitDaiNhan
Nothing hornymonster.
My favorite is Antal Tier 0, Gilberta & Akekuri tier 1. 
i do wonder if that 110 skill damage is actually worth sacrificing damage on everything else
I am like not even pissed off, I am more of genuinely impressed how they are inconsistent with it, like wdym Xaihi is T1, but Antal is T0
they literally almost do the same thing but for different element
like wouldnt having 7k attack be more consistent?
At p4 youd sacrficie one pyrometer to slab
im still p0 so doesnt apply
tier list = generate clicks and views = generate money
the more wrong/misleading it is the more rage revenue
the more it shills the new shit the more revenue
She was a 5* girl
He was a 4* boy
Hmm…
This may be senseless feelscrafting… but it’s somewhat interesting to think about
For the standard LR rotation we go with Xaihi BS LR BS LR BS as the blocks to build to a 3 stack LR combo skill (very shortened notation with the usual stuff like Xaihi CS excluded)
This is roughly a 240 SP cost half-rotation
theoretically, and don’t immediately bash me for this, we add in Flourite. This uses 3 ‘half rotations’ consisting of
LR BS > LR BS > Flourite CS > LR CS
Xaihi BS > LR BS > LR BS > LR CS
LR BS > LR BS > Flourite ULT > LR CS
This would reduce the SP per ‘half rotation’ down to an average of 173.333 SP, 28% less SP.
Is this a noticeably faster rotation? Is this worth considering further?
She does damage
The consensus seems to shun her tbf
People don’t know how to play the game
And used like this, she would need an achievable but crippling ~100% ult gen
The notorious guiders haven’t even read a kit of some characters to begin with
you basically trade dmg for smoothness
Tbh as far as my testing goes, Fluorite is an arts infliction (for arts reactions triggers) set-upper and an actually viable DPS if focused on her
Slowness is just… there to buff herself lol
The faster you deal damage, the more the dps
Aye
The rotation is viable as far as I can tell from an energy generation standpoint except maybe the Xaihi not being able to ult until the third step
While retaining the int stack we have now
But from what I can tell, LR can go faster since she isn’t constrained by her combo skill cooldown as much as she is by SP
good read, seems like pure slab is always behind hw, and loses to ult gain at p4
i can go test rn if you need to compare the dmg of 4 stacks with flourite vs 3 stacks with perlica
is it behind enough for me to regear, also no lol
Oh I’m not using her to go 4 stack tbh
I just can't for the life of me figure out why they gave her a 40 second CD combo skill. 
longer than Antal’s combo cooldown too btw loool
I’m using her to reduce the SP burn on Xaihi to fuel CS more efficiently

The damage should be lower by all accounts since we would be down a buffer
But it should yield more combo attacks more often
It’s hard to test yeah haha
Hmm, not really
Skipping a single Xaihi BS is like returning 100 sp
Flourite is basically providing 200sp worth of returned SP vs Akekuri’s real SP gain of like what 100?
It’s much much rougher on the ultimate energy generation, but it’s simply more when the goal is to shave time off the rotation
Thankfully LR’s energy mechanics are wacky so she should ult quicker lmao
lemme grab blue gears for flourite
it only saves time if the buff you would otherwise have in that slot is irrelevant
which it is not right now
for the sub 10s runs
Yeah that check out
I’m personally an owner of a p0 khravless LR
So this becomes a ton more significant since I can’t come close to 1 cycle lol
Just wanted to double check my reasoning is sound before perusing the calculations further into spreadsheeting and timelining that is all
for average clears its event less of a benefit because it only speeds up every other rotation at best, sometimes every third rotation.
and then your buffs can misalign at times so you dont even end up going faster
Hmm, yes thought of that. I need to see if it is possible to align things such that I can catch 2x CS and an ult in the 15 second window of a Xaihi ult
Theoretically… it’ll be close
That’s why I pinged a lot earlier on how Xaihi ult buff works in terms of snapshotting haha
Bro didnt even understood that he is got Staggered phase 2 lmao
Well since the only points against seems to be the possibility of desync and fight specific issues
Still not sub 1 min so washed smh.
Worth at least spreadsheeting to see the maths
If it really is just a 28% speed increase, it should be interesting to see at least haha
please just release thermite cutter but for guns I beg of thee hyperglyph
fcked up phase 1 susceptibility
Ah nvm Xaihi ult lasts 12 seconds
Now that’s an oofie ouchie, still possible but tight af
Dont think I can go faster than 1:14 without further upgrades for my team
Chill man those dawg might go extinct.
kinda funny the dmg is the same
Catcher parry is cinematic af
OOOH, wait, I have super cinematic catcher parry
how're you getting more dmg w/ fluorite (who provides no buffs) than w/ perlica + elec?
4 stack vs 3
Don't left me hanging brotherman.
Where is it.
yeah but i didnt use perlica ult which was my mistake
^^^
stanza buff is huge
Ohhh true. That'll do it
I didn't notice it was 4 stack vs. 3 stack
Had to find a video to get clip from it lmao
The 360 lmfao, nice
how much was the difference btw too lazy to calc
looking from the bar it about the same
Much too little to ever use Flourite just for 4th infliction I reckon
She is just worse
The highest increase to dps I can theoretically get out of that damn girl is with speedier rot 
234k vs. 248k. ~6% difference
And that like tapdances hard on Xaihi’s toes
Is this how many husbando's I can fit into one team. 
lol no you missed the first part of the dmg
I need a single extra Xaihi so bad maaaaan
8 pulls is a bit too expensive though argh
I decided I'm just playing the long con on the standard sigs and I'll pot them with 6 star dupe coins I think

Perlica; 35.5k, 11.9k(?), 234k
Fluorite; 32.4k, 248k
that 11.9k is arts burst from xaihi btw
Ack deto unit
That's what I thought. That's why I put the ? Lol
why you little
Yeah same, it's already hard enough to get the limited character sigs. Better to use P5 6* dupes to get the standard ones.
The total difference is like 6~10%
wait actually im not sure
where tf did that come from
Its a hit from something
Isn’t it combo skill ice shards
Xaihi basic?
That's the 30k hit
Or the 200~ hit
One of the 2 hits is boosted based on cryo inflict. Its a 2 hit combo skill
Guess it gets bundles together at the end with the slash
whats wrong with it? O.o
The first 2 weapons are complete bricks, the last 4 weapons are only situationally useful & usually have a better alternative.
thunderberge aint bad on an ult/shield build for ember
i just did the run again and this time only 2 dmg instances lol
gotta do another one
the others have a place too, its just a slightly more niche direction to go given people dont like how not straight forward ember is
yeah but it requires using ember and ult/shield ember
a good weapon for a bad utility would still be probably a bad weapon
I don't think anyone is actually trying to build full sustain Ember, would be the equilviant of trying to build full sustain Qiqi in Genshin to be honest. 
Who knows, with 6* guardians existing maybe an offensive gear set for them will come out
Like massive buffs if hit
Bahzerkah mode
weirdge
She works better as a support with a bit of damage dealing with Sundred Prince from what I have seen. Especially with how much stagger she can pump out Sundred prince seems way better than sig.
pretty
as my main
but ive played around with erh in support and she works well in that role too, you just gotta make good use of her protection
god, all I need is for one single goddamn detonate unit for gun, god do you hear me?!
Best I can do is 6* ult regen.
Btw check it, not sure when I'll have the resources to getting around to building her though.
Got it today while trying to grab a copy of Yvonne's weapon.
Ehh, jelly
Yep way better synergy than her sig with her to be honest.
Especially when you consider you need to really control Ember yourself to get the most out of her regardless.
Since her entire kit revolves around getting hit.
For heal/shield I don't think you need to control her
I think her sig actives off the combo trigger with activates off getting hit.
Yea, knowing how much ember heals when on DPS build
Should be even more doable not having controlled on shield/treatment build
Sure your operators will take hits regardless in battle, but it's far more consistent to control Ember an get hit when you need to & dodge when you don't.
I disagree on that
I mean I'm not sure what's to diagree about the enemys usually target the controlled operator.
No, I'm disagreeing on healing amount and controlled operator being ember as much important
Unless you got sundered prince
Without having impact like playing ranged operator
Which would change situation drastically when carry Is ranged
I mean you could go the entire battle without activing Embers Combo skill if you have sig an she isn't controlled it's all in the hands of RNG at that point. I'm not sure if they've done any additional AI tuning to Ember to make her more likely to take hits when her combo trigger is off cool down.
yeah, ember works extremely well without being the controlled operator
But I doubt it.
since she effectively steps in front of you every time you use her abilities
so who is the better carry right now Yvonne or Lae?
laev
Ah my bad then.
I am curious, does it trigger on main operators which use counter? (Catcher/Snowshine)
Dodge give regen
I still prefer close range
I assume so
Still, not sure for most operators you'd want to take a hit, but then I guess that plays into the sustain angle.
iirc they still do take damage but heavily decreased
can’t test that because I don’t have Ember!!!!
You going of assumption of no hit run?
Even if that is not triggered on purpose
Also AI of close range kinda stupid
They won't atk sometimes
Got the trimmed medal on fatguy
It's good sustain when it does happen
@drifting quest yeah I suppose if you're good at dodging melee is arguably a better carry
It's lost time
dodging is just really strong
yvonne has had a decent amount of optimization since her banner came out and more players got her, as you would expect
but her kit issues still exist
Time spent dodging is time not attacking
Be able to Spam skill is really something
yeah
No, just that Ember has the ability to take hits without getting staggered. So it's less disruptive to take hits on her. That said not all enemy hits stagger you anyway. An sometimes you just fail to dodge. The point is it's less controlled.
there's (non speedrun) clears on like rhodagn that can use his aoes as sp batteries
Did you seen how BS on ember behaves when she is in flamethrower?
Everytime hit it stops her movements
Floats mid air xD
Played both controlled and not controlled ember
That's kinda funny not seen it though.
more sp is more skill = more damage no?
better than basic atk trade off of not dodging
youd otn need to take hits,you jsut need to be attacked, you can still dodge the attack
Depends on team
and trigger her combo
You sure about that?
Its build based
If you main use basic atk you will want to hit more
If their build boost skill, you would want more regen
I main ember and I'm sure it's not like that
I think Ember is the only operator that it makes sense to take hits on to be honest. Considering she gains a lot of ATK from them as well.
ember still forcibly takes hits when you use her abilities
Ohh you mean BS?
since as i say, she teleports rght inf ront of you
no i mean combo
you can get attacked, dodge it, then use embers combo skill
you dont actually need to take the damage
to trigger the combo
Her Sig you kind of don't want to control her otherwise she just ends up constantly shielding herself I guess? Which if you just want to make an unkillable character like Qiqi in Genshin go for it I guess? 
Did they changed that? I swear you had to get hit not dodge it
im doing it right now lol
Show it
just do it yourself, lol, im not going to go to the effort of recording stuff
dont need anyone to believe me, lol
Tbh Ember would have been fine as the character if she had actual hyper armor maybe like starting from her 2nd click string
Or skill
no no, on skill would work better
70% with potential 1
Plus deals more stagger with BS if hit mid doing it
Is it only chance based??? Does it even max out at more potentials?
kind of why i built my team around her battle skill, because not using it kinda defeats the point in controlling her
It's DMG reduction not chance for DMG reduction
No I meant anti-stagger when getting hit
No.
As soon as ember does her 3rd swing you're supposed to dodge out then do her final strike no?
every time you use either skill, you get 70% damage protection which can linger beyond activation once you potential 1 her
Combo is dependent on stagger done I think
Some hit is more "stagger" than others.
Like bosses big hit.
I would assume strongest staggers will stop combo, and will not stop BS
some big hits can still interrupt
yeah I suppose but ig I will just skip Yvonne since I already have Lae maybe Zhuang Fangyi will be a ranged main DPS 
Tbh, I didn't intentionally fish for research BS on big stagger hits
ive had her BS interrupted
so i know for sure
since its the main skill of my comp and i spam it alot
ember, perlica, endmin, ardelia
Hmmmmmm… actually a really nice team
iirc Electrification also boosts breach’s damage
perlicas battle skill doesnt really get used and both ardelia and endmin only use theirs to synergize off one another
consuming corruption or consuming vulnerbale stacks just before a last hit to trigger ardelais combo again
You can technically do a forced electrification with Ardelia’s BS and then Perlica’s BS with this set-up, but situational I presume
or Ardelia’s ult and then Perlica’s bs
(since faster casting from Ardelia with her ult)
ardelia cant apply nature infliction
jsut straight up corrosion
hence i dont use perlicas abttle skill really
shes primarily there as damage dealer with ult
and to enhance ember battle skill with electrification
How is Chenn'ing?
But tang tang when
electrification+corrosion+arts susceptible+physical susceptible makes ember a happy gal
I'm etching it so hard too much gels coming out.
Oh my lord I mixed her up with Gilberta’s kit, I had brain fart
ima ctually tempted to make a battleskill crit build for ember once im done with her stagger route
My bad lol
Swordmancer ember?
I did bs crit pog and its highkey ass
Shh... Or you'll wake up pa*** fans
...
**nda
Thermite Cutter Chen meta when. 
i dont understand that one bit
id understand maybe, at a streetch, if they misunderstood and throught sp return triggered it
but chen dont even have any sp return O.o
terrible stat matchup
Maybe he thinks the last attack of chen gives sp
Yea
maybe
though even then i think most people would figure that basic attack = not a skill
He hasn't logged in for over 2 days now, likely got his P5 Chen an was like why isn't this she dealing any damage this game sucks I'm outa here. 
lol
What if the guy just doesn't have any other 6 star sword for chen xd
And wants to do solo Chen?
could eb the mentality
lmao
Yea that would be new account moment
'durrr, orange always better'
hahaha
Lore accurate chen build
I leveled hellagur to lvl 90 yesterday with his never rest sig
Now im broke af
He has been lvl 80 since day 3
not sure if I called it out before but
ultrawide enjoyer 
100% 
is it hard to keep track of combo cooldowns?
on UW? yes it is 
have to break neck to look at ult charge and combo skill
feels like enemies fall on my literal blindspot
when I'm looking at combo skills CD
but
if I'm tryharding I'm playing on 16:9 so that I can record
if not might as well enjoy the beauty of the game
although I've been tempted
at using stuff like OnTopReplica or something
to just grab the bits at the edge and superimpose it over the SP bar
Screen curves around you somewhat so that helps.
im a ux specialist and would never do that to myself, but it is pretty lol
I mean if you're doing ux for phone that's almost 21:9 aspect ratio
maybe not the 57" ultrawide but
57 Neo G9 got like 2400 mini LED’s. So kind of does a sudo OLED effect.
still something 😔
interesting, didnt think about the phone angle... im almost entirely on pc
not really a phone person beyond arknights
since all these games are phone games
they gotta have some 21:9 support
so it ends up being a boon to the ultrawide crowd
yeah, makes sense
Would be rubbish for you, with your YouTube recordings to be honest. Anything outside of 16:9 is pretty much a no go?
pretty much
which is why I only record in 16:9
a bit annoying that i have to force myself to use a smaller res but
it is what it is
maybe one day just as evolved from the square CRTs
btw
have there been any oni in endlight yet?
hoshiguma was my waifu and really missing having a one horn oni around
no oni characters in endfield yet if that's what you mean, but ofc AK universe got them
thought not...
shame
To be honest I occasionally record the odd thing for YouTube an the ultrawide is definitely an off-putter for people. Not professionally just when I want to shame stuff with people. Was thinking of swapping to this eventually when it's out as a bit more of a middle ground.
21:9 instead of 32:9 is a bit more YouTube safe.
ye
I myself have an old x34p that's taken care of me for a good 5 years at this point
and I'm happy with the 21:9 aspect ratio
I was contemplating getting one of the ROG Swift in 32" for a nice oled experience but
can't justify it when it'd be a side monitor for gaming/content creation at best
maybe if one day content becomes anything more than a side job/hobby and oled burn in concerns ease out 😔
I mean if you don't mind something a little bigger, you can likely pick up a cheap 42" LG C2, I have one in my bedroom used it as my main gaming monitor for years. I think they're not a lot of money nowa days.
Really nice OLED picture an still 120hz VRR.
yeah all unavailable online so might find a used one for cheap, could at least use it as a TV as well
yooo x34 gang
Yeah they're pretty good an a well kept secret to be honest. The pixels per inch on it is pretty much the same as a 34" ultrawide.
i hate that there are basically no IPS ultrawides now
😭
Oh lmao
I wonder how many people actually bought that thing thinking it's a Thermite cutter. 
what's the best gear set for alesh in a yvonne team comp? Actually is alesh good in a yvonne team comp?
if you're doing extended rotations rather than 1 ult kills
running him without a set and just ult energy gain is ideal
exact gear depends on your potential
chat i realised why i couldnt clear marble last night
so xira gloves + redeemers, then frontiers top and tube assuming you have artificed ult gain at p4
😭
use a second redeemers if not at p4
i put my thermite cutter on arclight, but forgot to put it back
and if you're doing 100 ult start speedruns/sub 30s rotations
then you can run frontiers and still have enough ult gain if at p4+
it is on his team sections, I got that written
but not on his review as I didn't touch that
yeah makes sense then
i can move onto whoever is next then
chat, if Im running a leav team, which one would be more optimal in terms of the team, Antal or Akekuri?
Leav Ardelia Wulfguard ________?
I seeee, mann i had to read carefully to fully understand lmao, my alesh is at max pot
wulf > ardelia > 5 physical units (although if we get 1.1 news and tangtang is phys Ill prob skip them for now) > laev
should be chill
akekuri is baseline
if you dont need the sp (short timeline speedruns, preplanned specific rot, etc) then antal is more damage
aight akekuri it is
out of 1.5 jail, congrats Yvonne
I thought you werent building a Yvonne team? 
Kinda like this yea?
#justiceforyvonne 
Seems odd to make her tier 0.5 during progression & tier 1 in late game it should be the other way around.
Yvonne is argubly the character that cares the most about artificing & making essences.
It assumers you have Gilberta and that probably why
crit perlica benefits a fair bit from 70%ing crit for consistent ults
just gamble on 30% instead!
30% is 100% if i reset the run every time i fail and pretend the failures didn't happen
im doing stuff to update prydwen
lol
i guess full crit isnt necessary when you have food too... and the attack from crit set only sees full use with good dmg%
Maybe it's just my personal preferences here
But I doubt most people are running around munching food constantly during normal gameplay.
It's mostly just the speed runners & min-maxers that are using food.
well, yeah
i barely use it either
just to make some of the higher end content easier
but thats the only real content to min max for anyway
I'll be glad when this game goes the Genshin root an just bans food from all harder content so we can go back to considering it a zero factor.
In all team building.
im not sure honestly
well agony already bans it
they already amde a whole bucnh of systems that make the food important
if anything it should be a consistent part of the game and not banned at all
idc if other people use foods but I never use food buffs cause i just don't wanna build around it or farm it
it would be a huge pain in the ass to do something like, destroy your ult charge stat and compensate with ult tacticals, and then feel like a cripple every time you don't wanna use it
i mean, how often do you need to eprform at peak endgame level?
Contingency contract ptsd
i feel like you can juwt make everything evaporate in seconds for the most part with a single max level operator
-50% sp gain
Vanguards cannot be deployed
And we call this game mode Contingency Contract
Guards have triple deployment cost
Brings surtr anyway
well it's nice being able to ult every run when farming without needing to use ult food or something
Does bonus damage affect arts bursts?
also unequipping the ult tacticals and farming them is just a hassle
Can arts burst crit?
yes








