theorycrafting

[dry kindle]

When you funding my p5 wulf so I can do autism rotation

[normal tangle]

if rossi is a better dps than wulf it'll be so funny

[frozen tide]

Idk if that's normal or not tbh

[halcyon lark]

may they be blessed.

[frozen tide]

Idk what antal wears

[midnight stirrup]

I mean duh

[dry kindle]

Xira

[peak void]

he wears clothes

[midnight stirrup]

Shes the limited

[peak void]

👍

[frigid vector]

waiting for my own p5 wulf to be funded

[normal tangle]

she's also a support

[frigid vector]

stuck at p4 since week 1

[midnight stirrup]

Says who

[normal tangle]

common sense idk man

[midnight stirrup]

What common sense blud

[dry kindle]

Same

[midnight stirrup]

She acts like a dps in the cutscenes

[frozen tide]

Looks like a decent resource to get a good starting point estimate of pot effectiveness if anything

[normal tangle]

laeva wulf is set in stone, she either replaces ake or ard

[normal tangle]

literally everyone does bruh

[midnight stirrup]

Shes not gonna be heat breh

[frigid vector]

weren't there no wulf speedrun setups with ake

[jaunty verge]

Idk if they anounced it yet but she is a vangaurd

[midnight stirrup]

[normal tangle]

?

[frozen tide]

Tho i assume p1 is weighed down by dps wulf and no ake

[normal tangle]

she's already confirmed heat?

what are you on about

[midnight stirrup]

Where

[normal tangle]

her cutscene vro

she has fire

[midnight stirrup]

Bro

Mi fu has fire and electric

[normal tangle]

literally her shadow is an animation of fire

and her swings have fire fx

[midnight stirrup]

I want the crack yall on

[normal tangle]

what are we talking about

[frozen tide]

Idk if there was a breakthrough but i remember ake runs for marble definitely

[normal tangle]

what do you think she is bruh?

phys?

[frigid vector]

I mean ember has fire but she's physical 😔

[midnight stirrup]

^

[frozen tide]

Ember is the worst type of hybrid

Fire dmg just so phys buffs don't apply

Doesn't even inflict fire

[halcyon lark]

still waiting for a vanguard that uses staff...

[midnight stirrup]

why would they release another heat limited

[jaunty verge]

If rossi is somehow electric or nature imma cry

[frozen tide]

Rossi chen 2

[midnight stirrup]

Shes either phys or nature

But i believe phys

[frozen tide]

She'll be chen with sp recovery trust

[jaunty verge]

Rossi isnt a limited zhuang is

[normal tangle]

https://youtu.be/Gc718RJmDA0?t=52 (timestamped)

literally the heatiest heat ever

[halcyon lark]

yeah she does look like a heat.

[normal tangle]

like hello

[halcyon lark]

guess its a skeep

[normal tangle]

fire fx in animation
"yeah she's pure phys"

[quaint matrix]

Okay I just finished the umbral. Stage 3 was easier than stage 2 for me I dunno why i tried to clear stage 2 with laev when I could just absolutely destroy it with phys team. And on the other hand stage 3 was a breeze with laev

[midnight stirrup]

Looks nothing like a flame

[frozen tide]

I was not being srs

[midnight stirrup]

But go off

[frozen tide]

[normal tangle]

????

which part are you looking at

[midnight stirrup]

All of them

Its aura

[frozen tide]

Its like purple

[midnight stirrup]

Not flame

[frozen tide]

Red purple mix

[normal tangle]

no not the sword

her shadow vro

[midnight stirrup]

Show screen

[normal tangle]

hold on lemme open in browser

[halcyon lark]

the funny thing about this game is that ember is fire but buffs physical...
imagine people seeing rossi is fire but buffs nature.

[midnight stirrup]

Bro istg

[halcyon lark]

😂

[midnight stirrup]

If she turns out physical or nature

Yall doubters wont hear the end of it

My instinct never wrong

[quaint matrix]

Yeah I just broke it and was like tf where did his health vanish?

[normal tangle]

it's hard to translate the animation in a still frame but

look at this area in the vid

[midnight stirrup]

Chile

[green acorn]

I 100% buy into her being a nature unit that imbues her weapon with some sort of wolf spirit and has a "transformation" ultimate

[elfin smelt]

redhood screams nature

[frozen tide]

I mean who can be certain untill they release tease or leek but the vfx does look closest to fire by a good bit

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah okay I see what u mean

I didnt see the shadow

[blazing lake]

@rare rover im so close

[quaint matrix]

The more I try umbral the more I realise that er set on laev is better. Every time I get my ult up stage is already over

[halcyon lark]

blows laeve out of the water.

[blazing lake]

then i can play the funny spears

[halcyon lark]

[midnight stirrup]

Still dont think shes heat tho

When is livestream

[frozen tide]

We will carry out the public execution of pepper if rossi turns out to be mono heat

[midnight stirrup]

Should be relatively soon no

[normal tangle]

never

[halcyon lark]

Looking at how banners work i'll be skipping 3 banners so I won't pull yvonne or gilb as an offrate..

[normal tangle]

whenfield v2: whenstream

[midnight stirrup]

Think its like march 3rd

[frozen tide]

If she's a heat hybrid pepper will be branded on the forehead

[midnight stirrup]

You can preregister

[normal tangle]

oh yeah sanity event is march 2

[jaunty verge]

Pepper shall be sacrificed

[normal tangle]

could line up around there

[midnight stirrup]

Me when players dont read news

[blazing lake]

i can see mi fu being after tang tang

i am ready...

[midnight stirrup]

Aslong as Rossi does the branding

[frozen tide]

Where

[blazing lake]

for peak

[midnight stirrup]

[warm galleon]

1.1 delay news incoming, yvon banner extended by 60 days

[midnight stirrup]

Read ur ingame news mf

[halcyon lark]

I can see the big boss of wuling in 3rd banner

[midnight stirrup]

I wonder how many of yall know SKPORT exists

[frozen tide]

I even looked at news tab some what recent

I logged onto skport last 2 days

🔥

[midnight stirrup]

Its the cosmic voyage thing

In news tab

U gotta preregister for rewards

[frozen tide]

Oh thats what ur talking about

[midnight stirrup]

For march

[frozen tide]

I did it

I think?

[blazing lake]

https://tenor.com/view/big-boss-snake-naked-snake-snake-stare-metal-gear-gif-17590921064372818734

[jaunty verge]

Na players cant read I swear

[frozen tide]

You just put your name in

[midnight stirrup]

Its the same image they used for the launch livestream

[frozen tide]

Don't you

[midnight stirrup]

So its prob the livestream

Bc its march somewhere

When it opens

[midnight stirrup]

Ya

People gonna mald they didnt register and get the rewards

[frozen tide]

Any rewards outside being sent to space

[midnight stirrup]

Do I P5R5 Rossi

Mmm

Id like to refund my p5 laev for a p5 rossi ty

[quaint matrix]

What are the rewards there?

[frozen tide]

Atp it must be better for your wallet to deadass gamble

[midnight stirrup]

Nah im not gambling fr

Thatll be the end of me

[normal tangle]

if she's a heat laeva support, peppercat explodes

we'll call it here

[midnight stirrup]

Ill actually kms if shes a laev supp

[normal tangle]

looking forward to that

[halcyon lark]

Thanks for reminding me i forgot it existed.

[midnight stirrup]

Excuse meeee

[jaunty verge]

Bro don't you have so much to live for in nex banner

[midnight stirrup]

Actually a wild thing to say

[jaunty verge]

What tang tang is such a great thing to live for

[halcyon lark]

Imagine she's a vanguard for fire teams.

[midnight stirrup]

Shes not heat

[halcyon lark]

AHAHAHAHA

[midnight stirrup]

Btw

Keepitup

[frozen tide]

Would not be surprised

[midnight stirrup]

Wheres ur pfp from

It looks familiar

[halcyon lark]

Greatest estate

[midnight stirrup]

Yea nvm

[normal tangle]

genuinely i'm so happy that we get both characters at the same time

[midnight stirrup]

Thought that shit was btooom or something

[normal tangle]

if rossi is a small buff i'll pull tangtang instead

wanted to play phys anyway

but if rossi is cracked i pull her instead

[jaunty verge]

No wonder why I was thinking of water

[normal tangle]

gg

[midnight stirrup]

Hope you have to guarantee for both

Hoe

[halcyon lark]

Nah btoom was more boobs n explosions.

[midnight stirrup]

Booba

[normal tangle]

boobs?

[normal tangle]

i already had to guarantee laeva

bitch

[midnight stirrup]

Youll do it again

And again

And again

And again

And again

And again

[normal tangle]

i'd lowkey quit way before that ever happens

[halcyon lark]

The most memorable thing is the bounciness of it allowed her to survive as it bounced back at the enemy.

LMAO

[normal tangle]

if i guarantee 3x in a row i drop the game fuck that

[jaunty verge]

I hope your cat chokes on pepper

[midnight stirrup]

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT

[normal tangle]

fucked up

[midnight stirrup]

Ok relax

[frozen tide]

Cryo vanguard who can use thermite applies cryo and generates sp with cs and ult would be soooo nice

[midnight stirrup]

Im not horny enough to look at things at that perspective in anime

[normal tangle]

hey pal that's alesh

[frozen tide]

No

[halcyon lark]

Sure you don't... Gaze at the last rite pfp.

[frozen tide]

He doesn't exist

[halcyon lark]

[jaunty verge]

Solidification sooo goood

[frozen tide]

Also his cs doesn't apply cryo

[midnight stirrup]

I dont even find Last Rite attractive

[halcyon lark]

Yeap

[frozen tide]

If it did

He'd be insane

[halcyon lark]

especially for stage 2

[normal tangle]

alesh visual design is so good man

if only his kit matched it

[midnight stirrup]

And u cant even see her booba in my pfp

[frozen tide]

Imagine a world where alesh cs applied cryo

[normal tangle]

same but that's because i like men

[midnight stirrup]

we know

[halcyon lark]

that would be nice... cryo having a proper vanguard... that isn't called a meme named alesh.

[frozen tide]

Ngl i think shes cute but also don't find her like hot

[jaunty verge]

[frozen tide]

Or attractive even

[midnight stirrup]

I like Last Rite her hat

Thats all tbh

[frozen tide]

I like her sword

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

[frozen tide]

But that's not even the char

[normal tangle]

last rite is more annoying than anything else tbh

[midnight stirrup]

And the whole ghoul mask

[halcyon lark]

I mean she carry a giant sword, she would easily threw ya all off...

[normal tangle]

i hate the extremely shy exhibitionist trope

[halcyon lark]

Only endmin.

[frozen tide]

My fav design by far is gilb and xaihi

[midnight stirrup]

Gilb is best design so far yeah

[frozen tide]

[midnight stirrup]

Laev sucks ass

[frozen tide]

Gil story was also good

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi is aight for a 5 star

[jaunty verge]

Don't diss my redhead like this

[frozen tide]

Unlike y****ne

[halcyon lark]

Gilb in arknights had good design in the first place.

[dry kindle]

Mods:

[midnight stirrup]

Bro

[halcyon lark]

AAAAAA they just made it better

[midnight stirrup]

Laev has a rat tail

Why

[dry kindle]

Boc in endfield when

[frozen tide]

How do you like classify her tail as a rat tail

Shits like a metal construction

[midnight stirrup]

Uh

I come from Genshin

[frozen tide]

Its like a bear trap

[midnight stirrup]

Rat tail galore

[frozen tide]

Unironic

Beartrap

On her tail

[jaunty verge]

Rattail you mean her hair?

[midnight stirrup]

Are we talking about the same thing

Im talking about her hair

[frozen tide]

Oh

[jaunty verge]

[midnight stirrup]

The bear trap ugly too tho

And the red and pink clashing

[frozen tide]

First image

[midnight stirrup]

Her sig dont even match her color scheme

[frozen tide]

When i search up

Rattail

Wtf

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-have-order-gif-23596053

[jaunty verge]

It does when you have her sig dupes

[midnight stirrup]

Thats a rat tail

[frozen tide]

Huh

[midnight stirrup]

LR sig matches at P0

[midnight stirrup]

His pretentious ponytail

Except with laev

[frozen tide]

Khrav is just sexy

Icl

[midnight stirrup]

Its like 1 inch long

[jaunty verge]

Wth gimme you be eatin too good

[frozen tide]

Im more likely to buy a khrav figure than any of the ops

[frozen tide]

It like whispers into my ears like the green goblin mask

[midnight stirrup]

Khav do be based

[halcyon lark]

calling a sword that was never what i expected.

[normal tangle]

oh ur a mobile player

[midnight stirrup]

Im not

[halcyon lark]

still wondering if skadi is in ENDFIELDS.

[frozen tide]

You mobile monkey

[halcyon lark]

she was glazed in ak alot.

[frozen tide]

Jk

I would try to do dailies on mobile

If it wasn't for my phone being so old

[midnight stirrup]

Its so pretty

Mobile dont do it justice

[midnight stirrup]

Uhm

[jaunty verge]

Not mine btw

[fathom kiln]

does anyone have a zipline for the highest point of valley pass?

[frozen tide]

Its alright i think its a cool phone bro

[midnight stirrup]

No

[frozen tide]

Tho i personally wouldn't use it yaknow

[midnight stirrup]

Mobile sucks ass

Doesnt do the game justice visually

Shit looks so good on ps5

[jaunty verge]

Where did you aquire this ps5?

[midnight stirrup]

Up your ass

[elfin smelt]

maybe from the web event

[midnight stirrup]

[frozen tide]

I have a PS5 thats just sitting there

[midnight stirrup]

I bought it two years ago

[jaunty verge]

My ass has been feelin itchy

[frozen tide]

Ive played it a grand total of less than 10 hrs

I got it just to play bloodborn

[midnight stirrup]

Omg

[frozen tide]

But i couldn't get over controller controls

[midnight stirrup]

Bloodborne is so mid

[frozen tide]

[midnight stirrup]

[jaunty verge]

Bloodborne is peak wdym I love dying

[frozen tide]

I cant rly speak about gameplay since i haven't played through it much

But the ost and design

Is quite immaculate

[midnight stirrup]

It falls off quick

First area best looking area

[normal tangle]

bloodborne has a really good framework in terms of gameplay, but the content within itself is sub-par

[frozen tide]

Ic

[midnight stirrup]

I wonder how duskblood is gonna land

[frozen tide]

My fav souls games prob just is ds3

[normal tangle]

like the guns and trick weapons combat is easily the best in soulsborne, but the rest is eh

[frozen tide]

I love trc

[normal tangle]

doesn't use its potential, mostly due to its age

[jaunty verge]

I love bloodborne designe but the weapon mechanics are garbage

[midnight stirrup]

Im just waiting for ff7 remake pt3 atp

Re9 hype too

[normal tangle]

i don't like you as a person

[quaint matrix]

Man I really like lr clears. I kinda want to invest her but I need to pull her sig first

[midnight stirrup]

Yall sleeping on LR weve been saying

[jaunty verge]

Bro dont tell me you like how the dual handed system works and the awful dmg some weapons do

[normal tangle]

i do it's awesome thanks

[jaunty verge]

😭

[drifting berry]

Alesh needs both of his talents to be unlocked right?

[jaunty verge]

Idk how you work that daul weapon thing

[bronze plume]

difference in skill

[halcyon lark]

I hate how the game is pointing and forcing him to apply solidification himself LOL.

The dev's knew about this and still went with it.

[quaint matrix]

I just invested into laev and scratched some resources for phys. And I don’t regret it phys is great. Helped me to turn stage 2 laev suffering into breeze. And now I kinda want lr but I need her sign and a lot of mats. And while some of the mats I got from the event the t-credits is the real problem

[midnight stirrup]

Laev is omega stale gameplay

Just hold ba

[halcyon lark]

High Demand, High Investment -> High reward. I mean if you look at it closely IT GOTTA HAVE A REWARD lest it pisses players off.

If it didn't.

[jaunty verge]

I cant believe I spent 50k oryberyls on laev

[midnight stirrup]

Yvonne missed that memo

[halcyon lark]

I still have 50k oryberyl and I am saving for a future unit.

Idk who

But eventually I'll know.

[midnight stirrup]

Rossi duh

[halcyon lark]

Nah yvonne is still good.

[jaunty verge]

Zhuang or mi fu maybe they look promising

[halcyon lark]

She makes some battle super easy.

While some battle Absurdly hard.

[quaint matrix]

Yeah it’s sucks imo. Im happy I pulled her very early I just wanted to pull something to play around at start but I didn’t know that actually my fav teams is right here - phys. But I also like how lr Stuns with her combo and her overall gameplay is kinda meditative

[midnight stirrup]

LR makes every battle super easy

We not the same

[lost void]

I reall don't know why everybody's concern is have this x or y character and pull for this and that when the game clearly shows with proper knowledge and investment even 4 stars can do hard content even solo but the thing is "how really hard is it to come by the AMOUNT of total resources you have to spend for good promotion if stamina will be your gate".

Not sure why TC do not talk about it quite often.

[jaunty verge]

And laev makes every battle skill hard

[halcyon lark]

I mean there is a fun challenge to making that perfect ult and satisfaction from all that pewpew.

LR just clik and it goes boom.

[midnight stirrup]

Everybody knows this bro

Youre not saying anything new

Most people just realising Laev is boring af and LR is omega fun

Phys also fun apparently but havent played

[dry kindle]

Too homeless for phys

[halcyon lark]

I mean your gonna invest on everyone anyways so DORMS will get GOOD income.

[dry kindle]

[halcyon lark]

[midnight stirrup]

I couldve gone phys and pick Lifeng

But I went P3 LR

Smile

[quaint matrix]

Why do we even care about numbers? Everyone is enough to clear like ppl clearing with catcher solo. The main thing is enjoyment you get from playing certain characters

[halcyon lark]

I still have my selector and LR in my roster... she's benched forever unless P3.

[midnight stirrup]

P3 is a scam apparently

According to datafield

[jaunty verge]

Heck Ive seen someone speedrun with flourite

[halcyon lark]

Ouch

[halcyon lark]

Ooooh

[midnight stirrup]

P1 and P4 the biggest

[halcyon lark]

Wedge wielding flourite.

[quaint matrix]

Yeah and she deals really good dmg as a 4*

[midnight stirrup]

Yea but that was on rhodagan

Thats like

[peak void]

because if we didnt care abt numbers we should just close this channel down lol

[midnight stirrup]

The least impressive thing to do

[bronze plume]

dopamine

[halcyon lark]

I want to see her do it on Triglo.

[jaunty verge]

Hes done it on other bosses too

[halcyon lark]

XD

[lost void]

Yeah you can clear with catcher but the MATH involved with all the numbers to be able to reach that desired outcome. It's mostly builds but where's TC for efficiency promotion?

You're farming on passive income and unlimited resources, how does it translate to gains in promotion outside of grinding materials through stamina locked content.

[peak void]

characters with big numbers are crutches for ppl with skill issue

tcs just give u the best crutch

[quaint matrix]

Nah it was just respond to that guy that said you need desired character x y z . You can play with anything and yeah some deal more dmg some are more enjoyable.

[peak void]

if u dont need it, thats great, youre not the intended audience

[midnight stirrup]

Even if its not as important now, crunching numbers rn makes things in the future easier to understand and math

TC did a shitload of discovery over the last 3 weeks

[bronze plume]

any team that can utilize ardelia fully is clearly SSSSS+ UR+ whatever+ clearly

0 bias

[jaunty verge]

I play lae because shes cool :D
Not for other reasone~

[lost void]

Then mathcraft is not theorycrafting it is a subcategory though.

[midnight stirrup]

I get what Belli means tho

Based on the context of the convo earlier

[peak void]

math is just a subcategory yes

[quaint matrix]

Ive built two teams and im saving resources till the times I actually struggle or maybe there will be characters I really like and want to play with

[midnight stirrup]

Last Rite propaganda

[quaint matrix]

Even Yvonne?

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/last-rite-takdes-endfield-takdes-endfield-endfield-meme-gif-10341933687894183164

[bronze plume]

ok yvonne is the exception

[midnight stirrup]

Damn even by Beefs metric

Yvonne is trash

[jaunty verge]

You know what I might build a lastrite team because of that sick ass ult animation

[quaint matrix]

I can’t imagine Yvonne players do in stage 2 trying to release that ult while being charged by boars

[peak void]

your grave shoveled 🗣️ 🔥

[midnight stirrup]

Watch tc suddenly figure out Yvonne is goated as soon as her banner drops

[lost void]

Also some character are more resource efficient vs another with same level of investment. How come TC somewhat doesn't talk about it?

[quaint matrix]

That should look really funny

[distant python]

Use snow shine with her

[midnight stirrup]

Like we changed our mind on things a bazillion times now

[distant python]

And just parey

[midnight stirrup]

First gilb sig was op

Now stanza gaming

[peak void]

snowshine tech 🥀

[distant python]

Gil sig gives ult recharge

[drifting berry]

It's criminal that none of the Frontier gear pieces has ult energy regen

[distant python]

Quite big

[peak void]

my snowshine just e1 sitting in mfg cabin

[midnight stirrup]

Im not building snowshine breh

[quaint matrix]

I’ll better use lr when I lvl her. But boars are nobody against phys. They can’t stop flying

[midnight stirrup]

Bait

[distant python]

True

[jaunty verge]

I love how people are coming up with meta even tho the game hasnt even been released for a year

[peak void]

phys was so good on boars yea

[lost void]

Would be too OP. Also thr gear set name implies for vanguard role. Vanguard=frontier

[distant python]

You don't need to lol

[midnight stirrup]

LR makes everything a massive joke

Esp if u got gilb for adds

[distant python]

Ah yes the many adds that appear in the latest umbral stages

(1 group)

[halcyon lark]

watch them release bosses with Cryo resistance that turns her damage into a joke.

[midnight stirrup]

You act like umbral 1st stage wasnt a week ago

[halcyon lark]

[midnight stirrup]

They already exist

She still cracks

[distant python]

Trimmed and done 1st day, irrelevant content mow

[eternal blaze]

just saw it

[bronze plume]

the new set of umbral stages where a joke compared to the 1st set

[halcyon lark]

no they don't.

LOL

[tame sand]

they wont because yvonne banner coming up

[midnight stirrup]

Yes they do

[jaunty verge]

Wait till wisadel comes into endfield people will lose their minds on how op she will be

[bronze plume]

it is interesting to see they added new moves to some monsters tho

[midnight stirrup]

Do u know this region called Wuling?

[quaint matrix]

I tried for like ~10 times thinking it’s an easy shit with laev and after I felt that im too annoyed to run after each boar with her I just switched to phys and stunlocked them to death in just a min

[halcyon lark]

Pretty much

[eternal blaze]

sorry for anyone looking at datafield and having troubles we're rly trying to improve 😭 🙏🏻

[wheat copper]

what this room for?

[halcyon lark]

I like the new boss...

[bronze plume]

enemies in this game have resistenances at like C rank that is nothing

[gritty briar]

they'll somehow create an umbral that makes Yvonne look like the best op in the game

[halcyon lark]

but I hate how it JUMPS and hides its BUTT away...

[lost void]

Seems going to be a pattern for future boss mechanics. The only way for those to be bypassed is by quickly dealing big numbers of damage to go beyond the HP threshold if it if the way it is triggered.

[midnight stirrup]

If you have to ask, its not for you

[jaunty verge]

Dmg calc or something

[peak void]

mostly numbers

doesnt have to be dmg necessarily

[summer flicker]

feelcraft

[midnight stirrup]

Mf they exist

[summer flicker]

[distant python]

They just add a chasm between you and the bosses that forces you to play ranged main dps

[peak void]

true 🔥

[quaint matrix]

So they place a room and the mobs are on the other ledge from you and you only can do ranged dmg to them? So someone picks fluorite or wulf dps and still clears faster?

[peak void]

what if the mob in stage 3 just didnt jump

[jaunty verge]

Like how many limbs I will lose if I tried to date lostrite?

[wheat copper]

hmmm, understandable

time to dip to the other rooms

[tame sand]

physical team would still be good then

[bronze plume]

it would be even more of a push over then it already is

[distant python]

Bro who is ranged physical

[bronze plume]

bros easy enuf let him jump around dont crease his jays like that

[quaint matrix]

Just never tell her that you have a shield or armor which can withstand any dmg and your fine

[jaunty verge]

Just a dude with a gun lmao

[tame sand]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jJZvBzEwb

[peak void]

that is not what i meant

i meant the first jump

[bronze plume]

whats wrong with the first jump?

[peak void]

like it literally just stays there

[quaint matrix]

I want 6* Chen pls

Add her

[jaunty verge]

What if I wanted to be eaten like a lassagna

[peak void]

the first jump that actually brings it into the fighting area?

that if it didnt happen, it would just be out of reach for the entire 10 minutes?

[lost void]

Correct me if I'm wrong regardless if I pick any character to promote the amount of resource will be the same for all of them right?

[bronze plume]

correct

[quaint matrix]

I wanna sing up to this

[tame sand]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cXZYBuETw

melee still clears lol

[quaint matrix]

Well….

[midnight stirrup]

Yes lets all sing up to this

[bronze plume]

someone give me 2 marks so i can m12 ardelia thx

[quaint matrix]

Have you heard about Albert Einstein. He has an evil twin

[midnight stirrup]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hrDcjt_5rgM?si=L5yPyboD-Rp3x-ZE

[jaunty verge]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-13191678230910881285

Are you referencing what I think you're referencing?

[peak void]

can credit store lock the fuck in

[quaint matrix]

I really liked her message where she said like: so basically there was a guy who said that his shield can withstand my gear….. soooooo

[midnight stirrup]

I wish that vid was available in jp

Cause en voices sound so corny breh

[quaint matrix]

Guess it

[midnight stirrup]

WAIT THERE IS

https://youtube.com/shorts/da-3GZDI7Lk?si=7Y-ju2kgTR1OdAj_

[jaunty verge]

No

[quaint matrix]

Great choice

[jaunty verge]

My laev still broke

[quaint matrix]

Oh also I wanna try avivena team but …. The resources man

200k t-credits just won’t let me

[jaunty verge]

I heard avy was resourece intensive

[elfin smelt]

naw I trimmed medals with lv9 avy

[quaint matrix]

I think…. I should start farming t-credits for stam.. but it’s 36k per 80 sanity… and extra 80 of my own sanity

Why this is that way?

Like you get 20k for a delivery from a random npc….(only once I know) and 80 sanity only gives you 36k?

It’s awful ratio

Gonna wait for next bp I guess

[jaunty verge]

Did you use all your sanity consumables already?

[quaint matrix]

No

Im waiting for sanity discount

Coping for it not to be locked with something like 3/day

But sadly 100 stam once will only last for 6 more days which is not enough

However I have 12 bp 120 ones which allows you to store it

[jaunty verge]

Thats great I dont have that many anymore considering Im farming essences

[quaint matrix]

I farmed all the essences I need. I have 9/9/4 laev and while I farmed gel for her I also farmed every single essence I need

I even got it for lr signature although I don’t have it yet

But better farm all the essences while you farm for gel

[normal tangle]

hear me out

tangtang throws bombs

[jaunty verge]

My laev is maxed but I still dont have her essence lmao

[drifting berry]

Monumental Etching gives in total around 200k+ T creds if that helps

[quaint matrix]

Yeah. And there is my total 200k

[quaint matrix]

If you farm her essence use some website like hh to see similar essences for different wpns and farm those as well for future

You lvl laev essence and also stockpile everything you could ever need in future

[jaunty verge]

Im farming her wuling essence to min max her

[quaint matrix]

Oh… that’s expensive. I using wulling tickets only for gear

Or you didn’t got her 3/3 yet?

[jaunty verge]

I didnt get her 3/3 yet

Rngessus is not kind to me

[quaint matrix]

Oh… that’s a first stage ok. Rng really sucks there. Need to win 1/24 with 3 attempts for 120 sanity

It took me like 5 runs I think to get her

[jaunty verge]

Bro im at my 11th run

[quaint matrix]

But when you get to etching it you can farm in valley 4 and get gel+ essences for other wpns

Just check similar ones to have less of a rng

[jaunty verge]

Yeah that sounds doable because Im st like -800 sanity debt

[quaint matrix]

Like 2/24 is a lot better if you farm 2 similar ones

1/12

[outer ermine]

[proud vector]

[ancient drift]

Just managed to pull off my first Rhodagn fast kill - 23sec.. I went with the easier rotation, definitely trying the Xaihi swap next… LR P1

[lost void]

Sorry for late reply. Have to prepare lunch.

Who do you think are top 5 investment?

[bronze plume]

that is completly subjective to the person you are asking

but i would go and look at team comps and see who in them are suggested within the most teams as "actually a viable option in this team"

[lost void]

objectively based on practicality backed up by math ofc.

[bronze plume]

supports are obviously more favoured since teams are normally 3 supports 1 dps

[proud vector]

That’s different depending on the content you are doing

As well

[bronze plume]

^

for the majority of content at the moment number 1 is akekuri

[proud vector]

Speed kill teams are not very wieldy when used in content they aren’t built for

[bronze plume]

though she is also easily replaced by new vanguards that sole focus on 1 archetype

[lost void]

Seems like Endmin, Ch'en, Perlica would be part of the list since they are available f2p? But how much small investment is sufficient?

[proud vector]

Most rotations involving speed kill teams just kinda pewter out as you are expected to have executed whatever it is you are punching in that rotation LOL

IMO you want a heavily invested main DPS and their BIS support

And the remaining 1-2 slots go into depending on situation land

Like an Endmin Chen core is good for a f2p that caught grand vision in week 1 weekly weapon shop

But if you have Laev then you know, Laev team with Wulf

[lost void]

Spreading thin on parallel investment/promotion on several characters in this game can potentially brick your account even probably considering getting them to L20,40 for base skill for more passive resource..

[proud vector]

Or Avy with Perlica

Yes, but the main DPS and their best enabler often times do not need to change

And the pieces you swap out for additional support/sustain/holy-shit-they-charging-me-snowshine-save-me slots can be much lower investment and still be ok

[lost void]

The new Umbral somehow changes heat team's ranking and performance based on the comments I see across on different platforms. If more encounters will be Umbral boss 2 will be more frequent it means player choice would substantially drop heat team's player population top choice ranking.

[proud vector]

umbral 1 and umbral 2 feel very different

By umbral 3 we will see more random teams eat shit

and really to beat umbral 2 I just added a bit of sustain into Endmin Chen and took it slow to not randomly eat shit

[outer ermine]

nice crit

[lost void]

Good thing the time limit is 10 mins otherwise it would really be a different show for most players.

[solar nimbus]

Anyone know if Catcher uses Former Finery would he be able to activate the Lynx set?

[lost void]

He use refund no?

[proud vector]

god umbral 1 with a timer sounds disgusting unless you can 1 cycle

Still, the point applies. You are heavily incentivised to heavy invest into a DPS imo since having easy damage increases the flexibility and reduces the investment levels needed for every other character in your team

Especially since the resources for below and above 60 are split

[solar nimbus]

Hmm more on the perspective of the weapon skill, so healing from taking damage could activate lynx set effect

[proud vector]

You have enough resources to 90 two characters and 60 a handful. You only need to 90 one character tbh and some supports can be as low as 40

[unreal light]

Yeah I wish of timer there too

What’s the point of adding 10 minute timer

If the boss falls under 1.5

[compact bridge]

Ill take 3 dps 1 support in a team as long as only one of them that eating sp

[bronze plume]

k

[quartz lagoon]

you are not who the timer is for lol

[unreal light]

And then you open up phys/electric

[lost void]

the promotion from 20 to 40 is somewhat negligible since you can promote 5-8 characters at the sams time if you like.

It starts around 40 to 60 then you feel the challenge of resource drought and and a huge spike from 60 to 80 and 90.

[unreal light]

Wait you think there are people who need the timer?

I just haven’t seen anyone talking abt them almost clearing the agony in 10 mins

[quartz lagoon]

its a generous dps check. Cant win by just evading or casting snowshine shield all day

[proud vector]

hey, no, it’s not like I don’t understand. I’m struggling to build 2 teams at the moment too. Sanity is zeroing out aaa.

But I still stand by the fact that a 90’d main dps is really quite helpful

[gritty olive]

10 minute timer -> 2 minutes

[green acorn]

generous is underselling it, when people are solo clearing it in time with Catcher then the timer is barely even a formality 😅

[unreal light]

I didn’t get it

[gritty olive]

If youre that desparate to clear with lvl 60 units you can chip them off ig

[lost void]

this. parry operators took things differently and still deliver.

[bronze plume]

monika are you proud of me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086682564849684/1475300033879343259/image.png?ex=699cfbb9&is=699baa39&hm=00b96c4756865007b865b207e1e840219b227951a8466f31b706e3a06758c5b5&

[quartz lagoon]

I did bring in my lvl 20 snowshine just for her parry against umbral 2-2

[gritty olive]

I think thats just some lower bound because hg will decrease it later

[lost void]

With Umbral 2 boss 2 I think many will fail if timer is only 2 minutes and only few will probably clear it in 5.

[gritty olive]

Like in HSR where 20 cycles was enough for 3 star, cutdown to 10 cycles as early as 1.5

[tight haven]

dude i feel so bad

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

all my friends are struggling bad with the second agony stage

[gritty olive]

not fluorite?

[tight haven]

and here i am... barely able to get a single laev ult cycle off to beat it

[gritty olive]

Two rhinos?

[bronze plume]

shes staying lvl 1 gang

[tight haven]

yea

theyre like super casual though

[gritty olive]

💀 i plower through with laev

[tight haven]

it makes sense

same

[gritty olive]

But fuck

STAY PUT YOU LITTLE SHITS

[tight haven]

sub-1'd it first try

that was so fucking annoyingggggg

gilberta also cant lift them

[bronze plume]

i think that is the opposite they had in mind for it

[gritty olive]

I am supoosed to be studying rn

[green acorn]

Gilb combo can lift them

[quartz lagoon]

Legit just bring a parry operator. It counters their charges so bad lol

[lost void]

controlled characters flying across the stage!

[tight haven]

i meant with her ult

[gritty olive]

I have a hard exam in 2:10

[tight haven]

but yeah

they just ignore it

[gritty olive]

Im gonna prepare calcing yvonne later

[green acorn]

the power of LR, put a combo into both of them and then just do an ult cycle

[gritty olive]

Also im investing on last rite with chubby lung sword

[bronze plume]

i kinda just got laevs ult up and then they died after it

[gritty olive]

I want to play something even if its not full potential for a change

[lost void]

Umbral 2-2 ia good challenge though.

[gritty olive]

[proud vector]

If umbral 2 was 2 minutes I would be forced to pull for Khrav

[gritty olive]

I believe 3-1 is harder

If you cant properly dodge

[lost void]

Axe & Ballista? I'm hearing more complains about U1 boss 2.

[gritty olive]

Imo the problem with 3-1 is that the bowman attacks are too quick

[quartz lagoon]

2-2 is great. I loved that it made me actually bring out other operators for their specific combat skill

[timid kettle]

what yellow set of gear for laevatain

[gritty olive]

I tried to record https://youtu.be/VPzVmpUpiU4

[proud vector]

• in #team-build

We don’t have pins here

Because the gods have abandoned us

[edgy crater]

matador no need subbing defender

[gritty olive]

Potential?

[bronze plume]

we do have the pin here

[proud vector]

We do?!

[gritty olive]

At p0 youd be more inclined to do this

[proud vector]

We do!

I am triple cooked today

[gritty olive]

At p4 youd do ultspam

[lost void]

You got to learn about their attack pattern. 2-2 increases the difficulty by 100 folds when the ram at you simultaneously.

[proud vector]

I am in pain

[gritty olive]

Yeah the thing is ballista is always 2nd

So you learn their attacks infrequently

[bronze plume]

i find all of the 2nd umbral stages way easier then the 1st

[lost void]

I hope when Tangtang Rossi is released SP refund set comes out too.

[rare zodiac]

Not the dread refund

[green acorn]

2-2 is just a greed check, the dodge window in this game is fairly enormous that even on 200+ms there's no real issues matrix'ing out of the way of everything if you don't just tunnel dps

[gritty olive]

Would we see a dps with no flaws

[proud vector]

solidify set but actually good this time

[tranquil burrow]

Gameplay is client sided, ping does not matter

[green acorn]

ahh, that makes sense

[lost void]

Am I dreaming I think there is bonus damage set when CC is already existing?

[gritty briar]

I watched my friend die 8 times in 2-2 cause he tried to sprint away instead of dodging. was pretty funny

[unreal light]

Is ts looking good or shit

[proud vector]

That’s for Yvonne solidify since it gives cryo damage as reward for solidify

[unreal light]

Like a drop-down list that allows you to choose any chara with any weapon and gear

[proud vector]

Cryo damage is fck all for shatter teams lmao

[native aurora]

Hi! Me again, wich one is better in the leavatain's team? Gilberta or Ardelia?

[unreal light]

Solo target Ardelia, aoe Gilberta

[lost void]

works well for Alesh Estella. They need a new friend

[quartz lagoon]

For single dps teams, aka laevatain. Does it make more sense just to give all the other operators ult eff gear? They only exist to buff... so?

[lost void]

it's general scenario. You want buff output higher efficiency and frequency

[unreal light]

Well that’s their usual gear

[gritty olive]

I have all of them on err set

Like 2 redeemer seal, tidefall chest, xira gloves

[bronze plume]

minus ardelia on xiranite right

[quartz lagoon]

I went with their bis would be for their character but looking back... they legit only exist to ult and use combat skills. They dont need to deal damage lol

[native aurora]

thx

[gritty olive]

I have ardelia on xiranite

Yeah

[unreal light]

Is xira just another ult bot set?

Just with lower values and set bonus

[bronze plume]

its ult gain but it has a set buff

[proud vector]

True ult bot doesn’t even use a set

The jade mandate seal shall raise ultimate stonks!!!

[lost void]

There's definitely an off piece that does hand out UE aside from Xiranite, it's Aether but not sure which slot but me thinks it's gloves.

[bronze plume]

the reason ult bot is used is cuz it uses a kit peice that on has 2 stats making it have more ult gain

[lost void]

Most buffers/ sp battery in game need raw stat boost and UE. Xaihi, Arclight, Alesh.

They scale with the actual STR,AGI,INT,WILL which is usually standard design for RPGs.

[quartz lagoon]

so for peeps like akekuri and wulfgard, they should just rock as much ult gain as possible.

[proud vector]

Akekuri wants some int if possible as well

But hey, the ultimate gain kit piece gives int

[quartz lagoon]

she can chill with chen.

[proud vector]

Akekuri is much more intelligent

She’s a manager see, a team lead

[quartz lagoon]

she definitely managed my teams sp lol

[lost void]

Talent manager like for stars/actors.

[proud vector]

She also (probably) operates your clue room

[humble matrix]

What's the int difference between maxed frontier vs tide armor for Xaihi? At base, tide is higher. Not sure how much frontier scales comparatively

[tame sand]

hmmm so

anyone found out surtr passive is bugged?

no wonder she dies easily in the second stage

[edgy crater]

what bugg?

if surtr got one shot, her passive wont activate, dats not a bug

[tame sand]

her passive makes her pretty much invincible for 8 sec

[edgy crater]

oh new one?

[tame sand]

but instead of reducing damage by 90%, it reduces damage by 10%

[edgy crater]

[unreal light]

Tide 104 int
Frontier 75 int

[tame sand]

thats why surtr teams are strugling lol

[outer ermine]

[humble matrix]

Tide is just better then. I was wondering if the + secondary just scaled higher

[outer ermine]

this 3rd boss has multiple hitboxes i feel like

[edgy crater]

yes

[pure spoke]

Just dont get hit then

[edgy crater]

theres like 3 hitbox

front n 2 legs

[gritty briar]

Wait really? lmao

[outer ermine]

amazing

[gritty briar]

well i've seen someone die pretty quickly as surtr so i guess i could see that being a thing

[edgy crater]

is it bug or just mistranslation

[tame sand]

chinese is 90% also

[gritty briar]

lmao

[humble matrix]

Wait, did you just state the maxed int values without the + secondary third stat on frontier?

[tame sand]

just made reddit post about it

how many orobs are we expecting for this bug

[edgy crater]

oh lol

[gritty briar]

150

[unreal light]

You’ve asked “Whats int on Armor”, I gave you raw armor values

[outer ermine]

0

[humble matrix]

The third stat is also increasing int, that was the point of the question

[unreal light]

Well it increases your overall int, not just the armor value

[humble matrix]

The question is the difference in total int between the two, when maxed

[unreal light]

Wait you mean tide vs frontiers Gear, not armor?

[humble matrix]

No, armor piece specifically

[unreal light]

The difference between them maxed is 104 int at Tide and 75 at Frontier

T3 frontiers also increases your substat by 13,5%

So sum said int with your build without the armor piece and multiply it by 1+Substat%

I don’t know what build outside of armor you run, so I can’t assume how much is 13,5% for you going to be

Or say what weapon and gear you are running

[humble matrix]

2 frontier kit, tide gloves

[unreal light]

Weapon?

[humble matrix]

det unit

I'm using a tf armor already. Trying to figure if upgrading a frontier armor is worth it.

At face value, when comparing base tf vs base frontier armor, tf has higher int gains. Frontier can be better only if the + secondary third stat scales a lot more with upgrades.

[humble matrix]

That's what I don't know

[unreal light]

Tide has 8 more int

In said build

[humble matrix]

Thanks bud, that makes sense

[potent hornet]

seems like sitting next to a recycle station somehow keeps you active in game

took a nap and game is still running like 6 hours later no inputs from my end

[outer ermine]

bro made the owl fly for 6hrs straight

[potent hornet]

naw he is just chillin there

[neat snow]

It seems random. Sometimes it will time me out while I take a small break and other times I wake up and am still in game.

[echo cove]

tidefall chest vs frontier chest, which is better for xaihi?

[lost void]

Finally Fluorite showcase & mathcraft
https://youtu.be/HZGBy05tqEk?si=ozuFv6w27Q9qzaz4

At last more fluorite showcase

https://youtu.be/s2kkDyiTu3c?si=UgqUuX63_tzUF-hq same dude

[unreal light]

Why don’t you do fluorite showcases

[harsh slate]

Finally, second stage is really difficult for me

The one who keep running at you and won't die when the only one left with 5% HP feels like a Million

[modest thorn]

surprisingly the easy mode was the hardest for me lol

agony i was able to clear a lot faster

[tardy swift]

yeah I am having so much trouble with the agony version of that fight

[normal tangle]

i cleared both in around the same time

i think

idk i didn't time it but like vibes-based

[potent hornet]

took me a couple tries on the last one

[modest thorn]

i played laevatain so the entire easy mode fight was me running around

and never having my ult up lmfao

agony i gilberted them and just like one shot them

[normal tangle]

i'm also on basic laeva team

no real issues there, just dodge

[lost void]

She's still underleved 😐

[modest thorn]

yeah def not that bad i just didn't relaize what i was doing lol

agony was very fast

[noble tapir]

I switched to physical team for the second stage, and just spammed lift

[unreal light]

Level her up now

[noble tapir]

Kept just running around in Laev ult and never getting battle skills off

[umbral galleon]

New yvonne trailer. Tataaa

[lilac bloom]

who on the phys team should i e4?

all 4?

[lost void]

I'm currently working on Alesh, Estelle right now she is next priority. I wanna test something on Cryonature with Gilberta.

[modest thorn]

what time do ppl usually get on the two dashing guys

[potent hornet]

unsure but my first one was dead before the 2nd even spawned

in agony

[lost void]

those rams got attack pattern 3 ram attacks then pointblank aoe skill that is dps window. But range comp will be having much easier time than pure melee not unless it has CC like phys team.

[modest thorn]

oh ye my first agony attempt i feel like i demolished them so i was curious if my time was actually decent lol

i clipped it and yeah i think i beat them before i beat easy lmfao

[lost void]

Pog? Li Feng? Ch'en? Endmin? DaPan?

[lilac bloom]

Pog Chen Endmin Lifeng

[lost void]

From the looks of it Ch'en so much damage based on phys team showcase I've watched.

[lilac bloom]

she does do a lot of damage yeah

[lost void]

In fact I just finished watching Ch'en solo Umbra 2 a few mins ago
https://youtu.be/pHSOAb60m5I?si=9RRt5bqXeTT6qX6k

the player did flawless execution on U2-2
edit: He did struggle quite a bit on the last few HP% left and rams are more aggressive.

[river scroll]

gg

[tardy swift]

This feels impossible with lev ngl

[potent hornet]

all the stages were pretty easy with LR

[river scroll]

imagines losing to chen...

[harsh slate]

Yeah it's almost single target and hard hitting one

[river scroll]

actually I have seen Xaihi solo all stage too

[harsh slate]

I already lost lol

[tardy swift]

I mean sure, there are super sweats that can beat it no problem with any character

this just feels super unbalanced to a regular player

[chilly bolt]

Try find me a single Yvonne solo

There's none

[peak void]

i found one

[harsh slate]

For me it's hard to play on mobile Compher to pc

[river scroll]

i think this umbral is time for unit like Catcher and Snowshine to shine.

[river scroll]

share

[peak void]

no

[harsh slate]

Snowshine help a lot

[tardy swift]

I finally got good rng on the fight

[blazing lake]

where my arclight enjoyers at...

[harsh slate]

I lost a LOT on second stage

The only hard part is the enemy have HP regen when their buddy dies like 3500 HP per sec

[chilly bolt]

Snowshine with laevatin...

[lost void]

still hiding in the dark.

[harsh slate]

Ice cream on flame

[river scroll]

Laevatain love ice cream yes

[harsh slate]

Yeah but I always told her only a spoonful

Someone should recreate this but now it's Endmin and Laevatain

[river scroll]

we do barely have dialog with her so far in Endfield

[unreal light]

Ahh I do run Gilberta dps alongside Fluo, it’s just that it’s hard to find the fourth member of the team, that is not Last Rite

[safe sand]

endmin phys really does just hit 500k on crit huh

[harsh slate]

Yeah

[river scroll]

Good luck crit balding

[safe sand]

was just fucking aroudn w/ rhodagn for fun and boom

500k

bro was gone

[harsh slate]

Either you have Chen Sig or some weapon with Crit boost, you ain't criting any time soon unless there are detail that your list hit will crit

[unreal light]

Ginseng Stew

[harsh slate]

Oh yeah that too... How many crit boost can you stack in the food?

[dawn patrol]

21% from xiranite balls is the highest iirc

[river scroll]

5% chances

[harsh slate]

You going to gamble that 5% on your LR ult?

[river scroll]

👨‍🦲

[river scroll]

actually to be real Jakub Legacy does actually buff LR attack more than Ginseng.

but Jakub have no crit rate buff

surely there is some sweat bald head that malding on that

[harsh slate]

I forgot what this weapon called but they have crit boost

[outer ermine]

[summer flower]

Crit gear endmin, and then it's not balding

[chilly bolt]

Bruh...

[summer flower]

That weapon is good

[river scroll]

imagined reducing your dmg for more comfy crit

[summer flower]

Dunno if LR wants to get hit

But ember does use it so well

[molten star]

Is getting 27% attack from 54 str equal to using yakub's food that gives 27% attack?

[harsh slate]

We Gamble

[river scroll]

isn't they the same? should be yeah? what are the source of the 27% attack from the first part anyway

[summer flower]

50% CR, and you have what? 2 or 3 curshes to do?

That's 1/2^2 or 1/2^3

Doable

[normal tangle]

unbalanced how?

their hp and dmg are fine

[molten star]

Essence etching. I can get like 56 str more from weapon. I used yakub's food and my LR was at 6001attack. So I wanted to know if max etching her now will get her to 6001 attack.

[summer flower]

What's Jakub effect?

[molten star]

27% attaxk

[summer flower]

It'll be different

Attack is multiplied by attribute attack

[river scroll]

the essence is also 27% attack he mean. not stat

[summer flower]

So if str diff will be 27%

[molten star]

Is there a formula that equates attack% gained from attributes to attack% ?

[summer flower]

He asked for str one

Str attribute is multipling attack %

[unreal light]

Wait what’s the difference tho

[river scroll]

you ask the "str stat" or the "%atk stat" on the essence?

[molten star]

Str

[unreal light]

How much atk Jakub and Ginseng provides to LR

[summer flower]

This, clearly asked for str

[molten star]

Since 1 str = .5% attaxk?

[unreal light]

1+(Mainstat / 2 + Substat / 5)/100

[summer flower]

It won't be 0.5% difference

[river scroll]

I forgot. I only see some nerd calculate it before
they say it because LR have already high attck

[summer flower]

It'll be different % different, it'll be strength/2 procentage points

But procentage points not relative % difference

[glacial jackal]

Guys do you know what is this bonus atk im getting from 6* >> 5*

[summer flower]

So str will give you Less than 27% change relative to before

[molten star]

Is there a formula on how much less?

[echo cove]

pulser vs aethertech glove for perlica?

[summer flower]

How much str bonus % you already have ?

Seen in attack tooltip

[molten star]

Total str? It's at 670

[unreal light]

Attribute bonus 1 / attribute bonus 2 / 100

[summer flower]

And secondary? I think they in same

[molten star]

263 will

[chilly bolt]

670 max for lr yeah

[river scroll]

should be the atk% from her wp sig

[edgy crater]

does certain move has lock animation?

[glacial jackal]

Someone said its l boost over m we get from only 6*

[unreal light]

670 / 2 + 263 / 5 = +387,6% attribute bonus

[echo cove]

pulser vs aethertech glove for perlica? Any perlica user?

[summer flower]

So it's gonna be (100+(670/2)+(243/5))/(54/2)

[river scroll]

"l boost over m"? what?

[glacial jackal]

This is also right

[molten star]

I should multiply base attack with this?

[glacial jackal]

The amount of boost is L and M for 5*

[unreal light]

You should multiply your base attack with: 1 + (387,6/100)

[river scroll]

oh...

[unreal light]

So it’s base attack x 4,876

[summer flower]

17.91%

[unreal light]

And you should have your overall atk

[glacial jackal]

@river scroll

[molten star]

Basic attack mean base total right? And how does the 39% attack from the weapon stat adds into the equation?

[glacial jackal]

6* weapons are another lvl

[summer flower]

Attack % is multiplicative with stat % bonus on yor attack

[chilly bolt]

This is my LR

[summer flower]

That's not much attack

[glacial jackal]

Mine is not maxed yet

Working on it

[summer flower]

You don't slab LR?

Secondary will, guys

[molten star]

What does bonus attack mean? It's that thing from food and the wepaon stat?

[unreal light]

(Base total)*attribute

Or (base char + weapon) * 1,39 * attribute

[glacial jackal]

I tried using 5 star weapon but its like 40-50% dmg nerf on lr

[unreal light]

Your essence or some other buff for +35,7% atk

[summer flower]

Base attack difference I think @glacial jackal

[glacial jackal]

Also tried that

[molten star]

My weapon rn has 29% attack and used a food buff. So that's why it's 35%?

[unreal light]

Maybe

[glacial jackal]

But the L buffs on 6* are huge ‼️

[summer flower]

6* have higher attack Base I think

[molten star]

So can y'all give me the final equation for the attack calculation ?

[dawn patrol]

6*s also give more attributes on skills

[glacial jackal]

Yeah but i checked at same base atk but 6* give 1000 atk more

From bonus

[dawn patrol]

[baseatk * (1+baseatk%) * (1+conditionalatk%) + flat attack] * [1+attribute attack%]

[unreal light]

(Base total)*(1+attribute)

Or (base char + weapon) * (1+atk%)* (1+attribute)

[summer flower]

What bonus?

[glacial jackal]

Bonus atk

[summer flower]

You mean attack %?

[dawn patrol]

LMAO

seeker doesn't even have atk% on second line

it's ult gain

no wonder it's a 1k diff

[glacial jackal]

Yeah but its her best weapon

[summer flower]

You know that it not all 6* weapons have that?

[glacial jackal]

[dawn patrol]

khrav is right there cro

r u high

[summer flower]

Prince doesn't have that either on second line