theorycrafting

[civic wolf]

and that this monument happened

[summer flower]

What do you mean ?

[civic wolf]

i can swing navigator for now, while for LR i need to dump 80 pulls over a perma char sig

[summer flower]

What was % of DMG In Teams for her?

[frozen tide]

One thing ppl don't talk about lr is that doing non bosses can be really aids with rite

[rare zodiac]

Compared to Yvonne who is barely useable with max invest?

[summer flower]

Different context

[frozen tide]

Esp with ard variant teams

[drifting quest]

issue is as bad as lr is out of bossing

yvonne is just as bad

as bad as lr is on sundered

she's still ahead of yvonne in bossing

[frozen tide]

Im not arguing for yvonne

I just meant in general

Lr stinks at doing mat farms

🔥

[civic wolf]

idk, the monument that dropped today made me a bit wary about LR's actual strength cuz

[rare zodiac]

I think all ST char gonna suffer in AoE content

[civic wolf]

the 2nd stage feels like its made in a way to be hilariously anti melee

making Yvonne look favorable lol

[frozen tide]

You can do btks with xaihi

[rare zodiac]

Just dodge

[frozen tide]

Just control xai with the normal rots

[civic wolf]

yeah dodging and NEVER landing the final strike

[drifting quest]

this is the yvonne shill umbral

fwiw

it is the best she will ever look

[frozen tide]

If you use xai as controlled and just do the normal rite bs cs and ult

Should be fine if ranged btk is rly that important

[edgy crater]

technically yeah, but at same, u can just be aggressive n spank those bull from side

[rare zodiac]

Just dodge along the bulldozer path, you will land your FS just right

[leaden mantle]

how about for ardelia? she could still work although it would be pretty scuffed. even if I pulled for gilberta, her bp weapon probably won't have as strong debuffs compared to ardelia's and there's also her arts suciptibility which lasts for 30 seconds and her weapon buff lasts for 25. Like do you thinkj I should pull for Gilberta for that comfort or just run her with ardelia rn?

[civic wolf]

i tried to Lava it and gave up and did my agony clear with Yvonne lol

[edgy crater]

or being poor man choice called using defender to cancel their charge

[civic wolf]

but yeah like, i wanted to do a 2nd main DPS cuz i got bored with Lava

but im hesitant to spend whole 80 pulls on LR sig

is Yvonne actually worthwhile in this case?

[edgy crater]

u can, the bull hitbox kinda lagging behind when u hit it from the side

[civic wolf]

cuz i can just use Navi instead of Artzy

[oak vigil]

Mhhhh I think you should experiment first with first two options first (Xaihi and Ardelia).
Despite me being taken off guard by the choice of Xaihi, it's still a good option nonetheless

[civic wolf]

i have Gilberta if thats a concern

[oak vigil]

ALSO, please pull only if you like the character and want to pull for it. If you just pull because 'oh she gives buffs', she is going to rot 3 months later in your dijang unused later on lol. Enjoyment first

[daring dove]

Does anyone know what the rewards are for the next part of Umbrial yet, IE how many crowns we get & what other resources?

[drifting quest]

identical every time

permanent content

[rare zodiac]

Should be identical no?

Why would it change?

[leaden mantle]

that's why I hope that they make a mistake and release a "Kazuha".

[daring dove]

So 3 crowns, 9 EXP books , 24 skill nodes, 15 weapon EXP boxes?

[drifting quest]

sounds about right

[daring dove]

Forgot the all important T-Creds but yeah ok cool that's something at least.

I should if I'm lucky be able to max LR's ultimate today then.

[leaden mantle]

yeah that's probably what's going to happen

[stiff eagle]

Don’t you get a crown per stage so 6 total?

[midnight stirrup]

I mean yeah Ardelia has better debuffs than Gilberta

But not by that much and lacks cc

[rare zodiac]

I gonna hold pull to my dear life until there is someone that have synergy with Lae, or when we need 2nd team

[midnight stirrup]

[rare zodiac]

Lower debuff higher duration, not really better

[oak vigil]

Just for more context, there were people who got trim with Perlica main/sub DPS without Gilberta

So, like, really, only if you enjoy the character - pull. Don't let 'optimization dreams' dictate your wallet

[daring dove]

What's everyone's take on Xaihi, for me her buffing potential seems the strongest out of all the 5* / 4* operators. So I'm thinking putting a bit more investment into her as she seems like she'll be strong for a long time?

[rare zodiac]

Trim is not that difficult if you understand the game

[midnight stirrup]

That really depends

A higher duration of a slightly smaller debuff can mean more dps overall

[frozen tide]

If you have even a shallow understanding on every basic aspect of the game you can trim

[midnight stirrup]

Youre maxing Last Rite, so yeah duh u wanna invest in her

[valid palm]

she's kind of tied to cryo but otherwise she's always going to be a solid unit. Good buffs, she's a healer, and running double heal isn't the end of the world because a second healer helps ensure better uptime on her buff.

[leaden mantle]

do you think antal would be a better buffer than xaihi even with the weapon? since he provides amp and suciptibility + with the obj weapon?

[frozen tide]

Can you build a half decent team with somewhat optimized operators and can you do simple rotations consistently

[rare zodiac]

Nah Xaihi buff just too crazy

[oak vigil]

Yeah, since he buffs electric with an amp and bonus susceptibility almost constantly

[frozen tide]

Congratulations you can trim if you qualify for all of those

[valid palm]

The only time Xaihi won't be a good slot on a Cryo team is if for some reason you are just NEVER Final Striking, but with how Stagger/SP gen works in this game I doubt that's almost ever going to be the case

[leaden mantle]

oh wait no infelction clearer nvm

wouldn't be able to trigger ardelia's combo then

[oak vigil]

Then yeah, Xaihi

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arknights-endfield-gilberta-2sTrelTU5neTNGdHHm

[oak vigil]

Or Even Akekuri, she can trigger are reaction too- The point is, there is enough room to wiggle in with experimentation

[valid palm]

I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the strength of the 4 stars in this game

in general

[peak void]

apparently laevatain/xaihi/akekuri is 5.86% more efficient than laevatain/xaihi/wulfgard in dijiang for operator exp

for anyone interested

[oak vigil]

That's... really specific, damn

Not complaining

[sterile patrol]

for those 2 elements shes by far the strongest in amp

[frozen tide]

Im interested in the optimal dijiang setup with only operators lvl 40 and 60s

[peak void]

40s is rough lol

[frozen tide]

I do not want to 80/90 ops just for dijiang

[daring dove]

I'm talking about if it's worth taking her to 90/90 an taking her talents past rank 9 potentially but this is more of a long term thing.

[peak void]

i could math it out but like someone should honestly just make a dijiang op calc atp

[leaden mantle]

Yeah. i just need to build arclight at the moment.

[valid palm]

I was expecting that the 4 stars would basically be like '3 stars' here and just be fodder, but most of them are actually pretty usable. 4 star here still feels like 4 star, with 6 stars as 5 stars. This game's 5 stars feel more like '4.5' stars

[midnight stirrup]

= more INT = higher buff

[frozen tide]

Xaihi is one of the rare pure supports that benefit significantly from those investments

Very well worth consideration

[midnight stirrup]

Should crown her ult regardless, but ur not locked in with LR afaik

So 9 should be fine

[frozen tide]

Actually

I don't think theres any other pure supp in the game worth taking to 90 like that

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi should see future value tho

Same for Gilb

[frozen tide]

If you are building gilb for dmg sure ig

Oh you meant future proof not investment

[midnight stirrup]

Does leveling give art intensity?

[frozen tide]

Don't believe so

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

Id say Pog otherwise

[oak vigil]

WEEEEEEELL, actually never mind, true.
iirc mastery skills upgrades are unlocked at lvl 80? And even then only Xaihi and Antal benefit from that specifically with like some % differences from amp

[stiff eagle]

Kind of, breach does scale off level

[midnight stirrup]

How impactful is breach for damage

[halcyon lark]

debuffs enemies.

[midnight stirrup]

That doesnt answer it

[stiff eagle]

Honestly, no idea, I’ve been told it’s important but haven’t seen any specific values

[humble matrix]

I prefer Akekuri at reception room

[halcyon lark]

Its hard to calculate but if you look at how ardelia works i'd say its pretty good.

[sterile patrol]

not the value itself, only the shitty damage

[frozen tide]

Yeah id say pog qualifies

[halcyon lark]

[frozen tide]

Oh

Lmfao

[stiff eagle]

Wait does the dr reduction from breach not scale of level

[midnight stirrup]

Yea dont bother with Pog then

[frozen tide]

Nvm just keep him 80/90 for m1s

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi the only 90 then

[stiff eagle]

My bad, did not know that

[midnight stirrup]

[frozen tide]

[midnight stirrup]

Anyway

[halcyon lark]

Xaihi too superior... Until Hypergrip realizes this and nerfs her to high heavens.

[midnight stirrup]

Investing in Gilb/Xaihi seems like a good idea regardless

[peak void]

just gonna dump number here
Dijiang op exp farm

Laevatain/xaihi/wulfgard
374 efficiency, 6 mood drop/hr
100/6 = 16.67 hrs
374x16.67 = 6233.33

Laevatain/xaihi/akekuri
330 efficiency, 5 mood drop/hr
100/5 = 20 hrs
330x20 = 6600

6600/6233.33 = 1.0588
akekuri 5.88% more efficient than wulfgard

[midnight stirrup]

Not only for cryo but future nature dps

[halcyon lark]

She got hit by a nerf bat once can't say it won't happen again.

[midnight stirrup]

They both can only get better

[peak void]

reception room is kinda wtvr, exp is a big bottleneck later on

[midnight stirrup]

Not like well know, we wont get leaks

[halcyon lark]

what is this? exp farm?

[peak void]

dijiang op exp farm yes

[daring dove]

I'd already arrived at that by accident anyway.

[midnight stirrup]

Is Akekuri supposed to be a shiba

[halcyon lark]

well I don't have laeve... I got gilb and she got two kinda busted dijang exp farming tools.

[peak void]

congrats, just wanted to kill wulfgard for sure

[halcyon lark]

[peak void]

and now its definitive

he can go to growth chamber now lol

[humble matrix]

Exp is fine long term. I prefer permanently active exchanges for a consistent trickling of arsenal/oro

[halcyon lark]

Yvonne is growth chamber aaaa...

[frozen tide]

Hmm gachas normally try their absolute hardest not to nerf gacha units as it can cause a community outrage and potential lawsuits but i do wonder if that'd be the same for like endfield 5 star units

[daring dove]

Akekuri Shiba Inu yeah

[midnight stirrup]

Im only missing Yvonne

And im fine with that

[frozen tide]

Cause nobody really pulls just for them you can't

[lean pawn]

Theres this person who count exp does anyone know how many exp you need for lv 53?

[halcyon lark]

Wish they buff yvonne... she kinda needs it.

[midnight stirrup]

Doubt it

[peak void]

i guess it depends on the player then, but ake 80/90 is expensive yk

[lean pawn]

lvl 54 > 55 = 23400 xp
lvl 55 > 56 = 27000 xp
lvl 56 > 57 = 30960 xp
lvl 57 > 58 = 35280 xp
lvl 58 > 59 = x
lvl 59 > 60 = x

Theres this person who count exp does anyone know how many exp you need for lv 53?

[daring dove]

Akekuri even acts a bit like a Shiba Inu, constantly wanting to just help & do things 24/7 without a moments rest.

[frozen tide]

Buffs do happen somewhat frequent in gachas

[elfin smelt]

maybe we will have modules

[halcyon lark]

designed as a dog...

[oak vigil]

Tbh just give Yvonne's ultimate stance heavy armor and I think it will be fixed (IGNORING ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT YOU CAN MISS COMBOS/SKILLS SOMEHOW WITH HER)

Just that at least

[distant python]

The only hoyoverse game that has got buffs to characters is star rail, except for the zhongli incident

[humble matrix]

Yeah, Akekuri is in an interesting position where you have to weigh the opportunity cost over just % increase. And pick what you prefer

[halcyon lark]

I just want her to have more damage on her ult... LAst rite outright outdps's her XXD

[frozen tide]

I pulled zhongli

On release

[halcyon lark]

thats says alot..

[frozen tide]

He was so ass

[distant python]

Bro

My limited was albedo

[frozen tide]

He got number buffs and a mini rework

[halcyon lark]

was albedo good?

LMAO

[distant python]

I also logged on randomly back in xilonen release and got her and nahida

[oak vigil]

albebo 🧡

[distant python]

So the account is no longer bricked

Apart from me building diluc

So

Um

[frozen tide]

Albedo was weird

[distant python]

I have bad habits of building bad greatsword standard redheads

[frozen tide]

He had like a gimmick

Iirc

That made his dmg actually pretty good?

[distant python]

The elevator

[frozen tide]

But was a weird unit overall

[daring dove]

My second cabin though.

[distant python]

Albedo ult was the most mid thing in existence

[daring dove]

Not that it matters all my operators outside of 8 are level 1.

[distant python]

Mid game on a character that built defense

[peak void]

no pog gilb?

[frozen tide]

Wasn't there a way to buff albedo ult

With structures or smth

[distant python]

Geo traveller things I guess

Idk

My main team was Barbara and diona

With Diluc and fish

Like

1.0 gaming

[frozen tide]

Diluc power creep is so insane to me

When i accidentally pulled diluc

[distant python]

He is shit

[frozen tide]

I fucking screamed

Back in 1.0

[daring dove]

Gilberta will only get released to the mines once she trusts me completely.

[frozen tide]

He was the dps back then

[daring dove]

Gotta build up that trust before you give them a pick axe.

[distant python]

I got c1 diluc on 1 pity after pulling albedo

The most mid result of having good luck

[halcyon lark]

No they don't synergize.

[frozen tide]

I quit after i pulled ganyu

I was doing daily farming for her

And got a moment of like

[distant python]

I quit during inazuma after pulling yoimiya

[frozen tide]

Wtf am i doing

[peak void]

we're talking dijiang bro

not combat

[distant python]

I had the fastest yoimiya in the west

[frozen tide]

I just log in do domains see what i got and log off

[daring dove]

Ganyu was actually some of the most fun gameplay in Genshin honestly.

[halcyon lark]

oh... then i don't have pog.

[frozen tide]

[halcyon lark]

😭

[distant python]

I got yoimiya on my 1st 10 pull as the banner rolled over

[dawn patrol]

shouldn't you be asleep

[distant python]

And I never built her

Gg

Cause I quit the game

[frozen tide]

Has anyone made a chart for optimal dijiang setup without accounting 80/90

[peak void]

boutta

some PIPES kept me up

yk me when i have an idea

[frozen tide]

Piping at night instead of sleeping

Crazy work

[daring dove]

Maybe some Chinese whale that's already spent like 50k on the game to get to that level of investment.

[peak void]

mmmm i love pipe

[frozen tide]

I thought the optimal charts ppl post assume max talent nodes

[distant python]

No

Level 40 usually

Lvl 80/90 would be the same at lvl 40

Just with higher values

Cause the ratios would all still be similar

The issue is when you have some character at 60/80 and some at 40/60

[peak void]

@dawn patrol also did this if u want :ya:

[distant python]

Then some operators have T2 on a talent that is better than another's T1 talent

But if both talents were T2 then the other operator would be better

For instance I don't use alesh in dijang cause i have another more upgraded operator with higher mood regen due to T2 on that talent

[frozen tide]

It should be possible to make an optimizer

Where you check boxes for which operators you own at which unlocks

[distant python]

Take the most optimal setup

[frozen tide]

And it auto sorts for you

[distant python]

Then adjust 1 or 2 operators

[frozen tide]

But idk if anyone cares enough

[distant python]

Like it's not that bad

To just figure it out manually

I got my ardelia to 80/90 today for more clue room buffs

And also Estella to 40 for clue room

[peak void]

true but a robust calc would be nice

[daring dove]

Guys hear me out maybe Yvonne is meta? That way we can punish husbando's from every room except the hallways?

[frozen tide]

He doesn't consider lifeng a man gg

[daring dove]

Least husbandoy husbando, so standin for now.

[peak void]

lifeng need some burdomuck first

before become man

[frozen tide]

What does that even mean

[daring dove]

Basically Venti from Genshin

[unreal light]

Bang bang tangtang

[proud vector]

does lifeng do the succ

[peak void]

we are really theorycrafting it up in here tonight

[unreal light]

Don’t know much about succ, but his ulti does Plop - Plop - Plop

Keep that in mind

[unreal light]

He also summons a brown giant with a big stick

Ngl I ain’t messing with this thing

Scariest shit possible

Gotta recover some sanity I guess

[remote elk]

if i consume link with ember ult do you get the dmg bonus for the entire duration or how does it interact

soz laev*

[drifting quest]

Laev ult consumes it. Laev ult does no damage. Link expires

[remote elk]

alright ty!

[drifting quest]

Laev and yvonne ult are 'transformative' ults if you will

The cast is a state change

[remote elk]

yeah so just use it after makes sense

[drifting quest]

You can buff her skill

But never her ult basics

[gritty olive]

so yvonne doesnt gain energy while ult

[drifting quest]

Shouldnt

[hollow magnet]

are there any cases where you would take skill damage over arts intensity in a piece?

[drifting quest]

what unit
what team
What gear set

[manic blade]

nah my dumb ahh was upping bskill instead of cskill on ake gg

[dawn patrol]

why would you upgrade either

just max her ult

[manic blade]

alr did lol

and m3 x4 laev m3 ult/cskill gilb

[drifting quest]

rich people smh

can waste all their resources

[hollow magnet]

in general i just got curious

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah obviously then

[hollow magnet]

like i feel like you wouldn't really use it for endmin for example (i only phys)

so there's really no exceptions at least for our current chars

[daring dove]

How much longer until Umbrial on EU

[drifting quest]

other than the crushbot endmin build which isnt used much they dont build much if any AI

[drifting quest]

2hr

[daring dove]

Cool, I can wait that long time to go watch a movie or read a book

[drifting quest]

a bit off gloves, optionally
some off chest

thats all the AI endmin usually builds

[hollow magnet]

maybe alesh has some secret skill damage tech idk i dont have him

[hollow magnet]

yup i use aether gloves myself

[frozen tide]

🐳

[echo cove]

anyone got art intensity chart?

[drifting quest]

Backsearch for damage doc, its linked in that at the top

[echo cove]

can i get the link? @drifting quest

[tranquil burrow]

having to use discord search

why is search so bad in so many services

[gritty olive]

when m12 flourite

[frozen tide]

HUH

No wonder its ass

Oh wait

This is for enemies

Not for ops

[drifting quest]

Im not at pc so dont have on hand

Just search like

Has: link damage

[frozen tide]

I can send

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?usp=drivesdk

The doc is much more thorough and technical than the former edition

[outer ermine]

just search "few errors" below that msg is where shuo sent it

[frozen tide]

It was probably easier to just look at and understand at a basic level before

[sullen depot]

Should that be pinned?

[frozen tide]

If it's been peer reviewed sounds like a good idea

[manic blade]

WeGood

[unreal light]

HP Akekuri be like

[frozen tide]

It only works like that for enemies

Enemies doing combustion to your operators

And if this was how combustion worked for our operators

It would be much much more ass than what it is now even best case scenario

[midnight stirrup]

Discord search is efficient ash

Idk why u think its bad

[frozen tide]

Discord also has been sending data to basically everyone

With their regular schedule "data breach"es

And now they gonna implement age verification

[echo cove]

thx

[unreal light]

Wait what lmao

[frozen tide]

Enemies don't have the same reactions as us

Which idk probably makes it easier for them to balance

Which sounds cool to me

[frail flicker]

when etching an essence, do the stats on the essence I am sacrificing for the etching matter for success chance? IE will I have a better chance at boosting Suppresion on Jet if I use a gold suppression essence as materials?

[tall swift]

nope

use any

[frail flicker]

cool, thanks 🙂

so I already have the needed essence for Jet for Avy... the rest of the team is Akekuri, Perlica, and Gilberta. who's essence should I go after next?

[tall swift]

if they're on buffing duty, you really just need the third stat upgraded, but still only upgrade if you have 3/3 for essence

for gilbertas sig however, you do want ultimate recharge and 3rd stat

but well

[drifting quest]

some support options dont need 3rd line, some want 3/3 still, etc

differs per unit

[tall swift]

i would go for gilberta's next, if you get a good purple one you wont need to farm for ake or perli

[tall swift]

true

[frail flicker]

but for which character's weapon do I want to farm for the correnct essnece next... my Avy is the only one who's weapon has an essence infused...

[tall swift]

gilbertas

[drifting quest]

what weapons are they holding

[sage tartan]

What are the best alternative weapons for yvonne

[drifting quest]

navigator, wedge

[sage tartan]

Which one of those two is better? Or they're just the same

[drifting quest]

at equal pots wedge is higher

[frail flicker]

Gilberta has Delivery, Perlica has Detonation unit, and Akekuri has thermite cutter... I got lucky when drawing on the Delivery Guaranteed banner lol

[sage tartan]

Ight

[drifting quest]

you can farm all 3 at the same time then

somewhat

all 3 drop from the same alluvium in the hub
you can somewhat chase 2/3 or 1/3's

[rugged vale]

2/3 and 1/3 useless tho

[lilac bloom]

gas

[frail flicker]

for Gilberta what is most omportant: the Ult gain efficiency or the pursuit?

[ashen scroll]

If for elec team most likely pursuit

[elder skiff]

just max out both

[rugged vale]

not enough pots

[elder skiff]

im not rolling pots on a support sig

[outer ermine]

same

[ashen scroll]

Max pot Art balls not look good also

Swords tho

Fancy candy stick

[tall swift]

damn

[stone thunder]

How much arts sus do arts bursts give again?

[tall swift]

should depend on stats of operator

iirc

[stone thunder]

How much does Daughter Perly give (pls it's lore accurate)

with her combo

[tall swift]

i mean it depends on what stats you put on your operator

[stone thunder]

Oh

I gotta read about that

[tall swift]

let me check where it shows it in game brb

[stone thunder]

gosh reading, the bane of Indonesians

[stone thunder]

tysm

[drifting quest]

as in arts susceptibility?

arts bursts give 0

[stone thunder]

Don't they give arts susceptibility?

oh

[tall swift]

pretty sure it shows when you click on "arts intensity"

[stone thunder]

but they do give arts damage increase?

[tall swift]

corrosion does iirc

[drifting quest]

corrosion is a reaction, not an arts burst

arts bursts are just damage

[stone thunder]

Ah do they give different effects

[tall swift]

oh wait

[stone thunder]

what

what in the arts shenanigans

[tall swift]

hmm

[drifting quest]

an arts burst is when you apply the same infliction ontop of the existing stack

[tall swift]

i think im mixing up terms rn

[stone thunder]

I thought arts bursts are like, combustion, electrification, etc.

[drifting quest]

an arts reaction is a different infliction

[tall swift]

ah yes you're right

[stone thunder]

Ohhh

Okay I gotta get my terms sorted out

[drifting quest]

regarding reactions none give susceptibility

[stone thunder]

Arts inflictions, arts reactions, and arts bursts

dies

[drifting quest]

corrosion reduces the enemy resistance
electrification increases arts damage taken

[stone thunder]

oooo

thank you

where do you read that?

[drifting quest]

you can click on most effects in game to read their tooltip

[stone thunder]

I can't really find it under each of the respective reactions' tutorials

[drifting quest]

or read on an external wiki

[stone thunder]

ooo

I assume the game doesn't give the percentages?

only the fact that this reaction does that

[drifting quest]

they dont tend to disclose the % but we know them

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.6ugp2bwnvloa

[tall swift]

damn nice

[drifting quest]

the tables are at the bottom

if you dont wish to read

[stone thunder]

Thank youv ery much

I will read

Holy 9 pages

maybe another time

So basically this means get as many damage multipliers

and don't oversaturate one multiplier(?)

[tight haven]

live arts reaction:

[drifting quest]

thats the general logic for all damage yes

[stone thunder]

🫡 Thank you very much

[drifting quest]

the more multiplicative zones you can access the higher your damage will be

ignoring vastly different quantities of buffing

e.g. 100% damage% buff is obviously going to be more valuable than like 5% susceptibility

[stone thunder]

I see

but 50% damage% buff and 50% susceptibility will be better than 100% on one of them only

cause it'll be 225% instead of 200%

yes Arknights: Mathfield

[drifting quest]

yes

oh eu/na umbral2

[potent hornet]

oh did it finally hit?

sweet

[drifting quest]

im already halfway done

sobbing

[stone thunder]

peak 1.3k oroberyls

[tranquil burrow]

mmmm sweet sweet upgrade materials

stages are gorgeous this time around

[drifting quest]

i do like the atmosphere yeah

much nicer than say genshins blue disc

its harder than the last one too which is nice

maybe in 2-4 more it'll hit a sweet spot

[tranquil burrow]

i got dc'd for some reason

[stone thunder]

Yeah, they give good rewards and a reasonably hard fight

they also don't have gimmicks this time, instead opting to give hard boss fights

[tight haven]

lmao sub-1mins on all of them first try

[stone thunder]

The chrysalis modifiers were pretty disheartening too

[ashen scroll]

I can see casuals would dying on stage 2

[drifting quest]

stage 2 is a patience check or a dps check

which is nice

i do like that you can do it multiple ways

[ashen scroll]

They remind me of monhun boar

[valid zealot]

Lift lock

AmiyaRaveL

[elder skiff]

one gilb cs and stage 2 becomes a joke

[chilly bolt]

i notice LR fs animation gives her brief cc immune, does that happen to every op?

[frozen tide]

Not immunity

[drifting quest]

ok so despite it being yvonne shill umbral she feels

suspicious

[frozen tide]

It's a level of hyperarmor or superarmor idk what it actually is sweaty fg term

[summer flicker]

nice event reward, 1 more

[outer ermine]

oh right monument

[chilly bolt]

is it just me or the vid doesnt work

[summer flicker]

the vid work

[frozen tide]

Ion even know what i did but good to hear lol

[chilly bolt]

ye that, does that happen to anyone else?

[frozen tide]

Yeah

Theres other sources of hyperarmor

I think a lot of other fs if not all have it

Might be to differing degrees however

Might not be

Honestly not quite sure and i don't have data on it

What i do know is that its not immunity

[chilly bolt]

i thought it was immunity until stage 2 umbral today

[remote fern]

P5 Gilberta, what is her best gear?

[potent hornet]

Like last right ult gives hyper armor

[tight haven]

what you have rn is good

[tulip geyser]

am I cooking chat?

[tight haven]

theres a double slab setup for a dps-focused gilb which is actually fairly competent

[remote fern]

that looks scuffed

[tight haven]

but its kinda whatever

no it works

gilb does a LOT of damage because of slab matching her main attribute

[chilly bolt]

there's also this

[frozen tide]

Mostly some form of xiaranite setup for bosses

Changes are made depending on ult charge needed

[daring dove]

That's considered the best if you want her to ult as much as possible with a target of 260 Ult gain.

[valid zealot]

Whos this

[elder skiff]

does ur p5 gilb have 100% ult uptime with 260

[hasty grail]

I prefer the combo dmg set with one slab for p5, sac's ult damage for combo damage but you do combo twice as much

and p5 increases combo multiplier too

[frozen tide]

You can run xira chest xira gloves xira kit and hot work kit(intensity) if you don't need as much ult gain

[daring dove]

Naw but can use it basically every rotation in most teams.

[frozen tide]

Theres other possible sets as well but these are some examples

The constant is some form of 3 piece xiranite and some ult gain pieces

[tulip geyser]

Last Rite

[daring dove]

Damage sets on Gilberta won't age well, sets that maximize her buff uptime will to be honest. Her damage isn't the only damage in the team.

It's fine if you aren't going to artifcie it of course.

[frozen tide]

Damage sets are mostly for qol

Bob mob slaughtering

Which is valid tbh

[daring dove]

There's nothing more QoL than having your ult every rotation.

Damage sets are literally just for killing trash mobs

[hasty grail]

depends a little on rotation too, if you don't run a vanguard and can't do 3 non refunded skills before combo is back up then there isn't a reason to run full energy gain

[drifting quest]

gone already

i really am curious what exactly it is they all fall for

[frozen tide]

<@&956153874383781928>

[neat snow]

Free money

[daring dove]

Builds will different from team to team, but there's generally little harm done to your teams overall damage by having too much ult gain. But a lot of harm caused to your teams overall damage by having too little.

[neat snow]

Or they click the link without thinking

[daring dove]

Overall damage sets on Gilberta are for lolz not for serious investment.

[drifting quest]

it'll be a different thing that gets the accounts compromised

then they get used to push this scam which is like a money scam

[frozen tide]

I fell for an old gay friend into programming sending me a file from a russian guy he knew he wanted me to check out but the acc was hacked and my disc got compromised

[drifting quest]

lmao

[frozen tide]

It was just so convincing

[valid zealot]

Skill issue.

[frozen tide]

With his normal behavior

[neat snow]

Yeah it's probably a whole operation

[frozen tide]

And that group of friend are ones to always send sketchy shi anyways

[pure spoke]

Yo mr yeast giving away free bitcoins

[frozen tide]

[pure spoke]

Im rich now

[frozen tide]

I try to be more careful now but

That was annoying

[drifting quest]

gotta learn the art of vt and vm

[hasty grail]

If you get 2 combos per ult, you overkill the energy by way too much. Sig alone is enough for that. Keep in mind this is about p5, at p0 then you would need the extra er. Only reason to run full energy at p5 is to get it in 1 combo and 3 skills

[neat snow]

I just don't talk to anyone problem solved

I did the umbral. It was really fun this time but still killed everything before I could get to ult

[outer ermine]

bulls were funny free sp

[drifting quest]

yeah I am definitely hopeful now compared ot the last one

these stages actually felt decently enjoyable to engage with

maybe not the 1st one it folded too easily

but the 2nd and 3rd

[neat snow]

If the 3rd is good then I think it'll be good going forward

[drifting quest]

it just needs to be a bit harder without losing the engagement

and it hits a nice sweet spot

devs cooked

[plain wigeon]

With Gilberta on Xir. gear, Avywenna and Perlica, what set should Antal run?

[valid zealot]

Time do Ember.

[frozen tide]

Me when devs improve the game instead of releasing perfect

[drifting quest]

you can swap gilb off xir to let antal run it

[midnight stirrup]

You fell for a gay friend? Whens the wedding

[frozen tide]

Nah we broke up

After i transitioned he said he couldn't do it any more

[midnight stirrup]

Damn

[neat snow]

[elder skiff]

3rd one dies too fast right when it shows its red ass

[valid zealot]

Too much lore dropped

[elder skiff]

[valid zealot]

Need time to process.

[midnight stirrup]

Brb

Lemme do this umbral rq

[lilac bloom]

antal on xiranite like that person above said and ive seen ppl say a broken set can be fine? like incomplete

[plain wigeon]

mb didn't see
but Gilberta's on Xiranite and the effect doesn't stack
so putting it on Antal is useless

[valid zealot]

Ult bot.

[lilac bloom]

ig you could also do that 4* set with the sp recoverg

its only once but antal doesnt need to skill more than once rly

but ive heard conflicting opinions on that set

[potent hornet]

i assume with gilberta alone you can maintin the uptime on xiranite?

[plain wigeon]

probably yeah
though i'm not even quite sure to play that team with Antal or Ake

[plain wigeon]

I'll see

[potent hornet]

i mean ake with thermal is really good

[oak vigil]

Mmmmm I feel like this type of question fits here more rather than team-build channel.
Just want to get all your opinions, in terms of comparing to other regular teams, how decent is this completion for Rock Solid on Agony mode?

This is technically theorycrafting too, right?

[plain wigeon]

don't have thermal though

[lilac bloom]

rip

[plain wigeon]

iirc I picked Oblivion from the selector

[lilac bloom]

do you have gilberta's sig

[plain wigeon]

not yet
once Yvonne's banner starts I'll have enough for it

[drifting quest]

perfectly average clear time

[oak vigil]

Mmmmh I'll take it, fair enough

[drifting quest]

pretty much any team is clearing it at the ~1min mark

[lilac bloom]

horrid idea

but she can technically proc swordmancer lol

[drifting quest]

swordmancer gilb is a speedrun thing

exists

[lilac bloom]

idk i think broken set is gilb's best set if she's not using xiranite

but you rly want sig

if she doesnt have sig you should still do xiranite i think

[daring dove]

That last boss in the new Umbrial is pretty fun.

Wish he was a bit more tanky though.

[elder skiff]

i didn’t even get to use lae’s ult yet and he died

[tight haven]

congratulations my chud son

[daring dove]

Yeah I only just got 1 ult off before he died an I was playing it uber safe an dodging most of the fight.

[lilac bloom]

a strong chud

[valid zealot]

Fat

[oak vigil]

'stronger core hp part' as he falls apart like lego from gust of wind

Yeah uh-huh, no not really

[elder skiff]

should’ve given him 2 phases, they give us like 10 minutes just for everyone to do it sub 2

[frozen tide]

I thought i saw a ping here

Must've been the wind

[potent hornet]

done

[lilac bloom]

im hoping we get another support-ish set like xiranite when 1.1 drops

[potent hornet]

3rd boss was kinda fun

think i might use that one instead of rhod now

to test stuff

[oak vigil]

I wish 3rd boss had actually more hp on his core though

It's like 'oh boss doesn't have stagger now', but then when you get to his core it just goes the same way

Or like at first you chip away first layer of core, second loop of boss fight, and then destroy the core at the second time would have worked better

[potent hornet]

i just had to stop getting hit by dumb shit

2 LR combos and he was gone

[elder skiff]

elites’ attack patterns are too simple to be put in this so-called ‘endgame content’

literally just punching bags

[potent hornet]

well dodge trivializes a lot

they would have to make some things un-dodge able to force us to care about mechanics

[daring dove]

Well all those extra resources went a long way, not only did I get LR's ult to rank 12, I also got her combo trigger to rank 11.

[potent hornet]

nice

[midnight stirrup]

Holy that umbral was annoying on mobile

Target lock is so aids on mobile

[dusk zenith]

whats the best opening rot when starting with 0 energy for pog/lifeng/endmin/chen

[daring dove]

I figured you wouldn't like that one, the bosses are incredibly mobile & barely stay still. No ideal for a nuking team.

[midnight stirrup]

Nah

The enemies werent the issue

Its the auto target that was already ass but even more ass on mobile

First was just nuke before adds

Second was dodge away with them and do ur combo

[daring dove]

It's one thing I can honestly say I have never struggled with on PC.

But I hear a lot of complaints about it

[midnight stirrup]

The target is horrible

But damn mobile is genuinely hairpulling annoying

You cant switch target etc have to retarget

[frozen tide]

I assure you its no less aids on pc

[midnight stirrup]

Idk its manageable on ps5

Annoying but u get used to playing with it

[frozen tide]

Yeah idk mobile probs is way worse

Its just rly annoying when lock bounces

[daring dove]

So I'mma be 1 crown away from maxing all of the skills I need on LR this patch unless they gave some more away in another event. We're getting one from Yvonne's trial. But I don't think there's a confirm other source rn?

There's a new event on the 24th hopefully that has some.

[chilly bolt]

[daring dove]

I'mma whale do you honestly think I have cleared those out yet.

[chilly bolt]

honestly i regret buying those

permanent 10 pulls lost

[daring dove]

It's nearly two more skills mastered though.

As long as you spent them wisely it's a decent trade.

Aquito lowkey looks like the endmins mum.

[modest thorn]

fr

the game will never steal those 10 pulls from me every patch

[dapper mason]

man i wish a whale accidently log on my acc and accidently p5 my khrav

[potent hornet]

i had p3 before i started spending

i just focused on pulling for it

[frozen tide]

and they accidentally change the password and email

[outer ermine]

[modest thorn]

imagine p5'ing anything other than weapons for laevatain's team

[frozen tide]

me when im not laev whale #1897387298273

[modest thorn]

erm actually im a laevatain dolphin

[dapper mason]

my dumbass pulled pog sign 8x for no reason

[modest thorn]

what is pog's sig lol

[frozen tide]

never rest

[modest thorn]

oh lol

honestly i gotta start using other teams so i can learn every unit

[fading fog]

this was way easier than the last one

[modest thorn]

i need to start giga theorycrafting by making teams like lr, laevatain, catcher and snowshine

[outer ermine]

🤝 sub 10 rhod for us

[modest thorn]

where is this sub 10 rhod you speak of

[midnight stirrup]

Imagine being a laev main

https://tenor.com/view/snoring-old-man-simpsons-snore-gif-11676353

[modest thorn]

imagine being an lr dolphin but labeling yourself as a whale

[midnight stirrup]

Being a whale is not the flex u think it is bro

[outer ermine]

^just do that

[midnight stirrup]

I feel sorry for u taking it so serious

[modest thorn]

Oh nah I’m saying cause u call urself a whale lol

[outer ermine]

i still need to do a full run actually to see time improvements

[midnight stirrup]

I know what you meant

[outer ermine]

later ig

[midnight stirrup]

You still sound pathetic af saying it

[modest thorn]

I don’t get it 💀

[midnight stirrup]

We can tell

[modest thorn]

So being a whale isn’t the flex I think it is?

[drifting quest]

tc drama

[modest thorn]

I’m not even a whale myself

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/fangyi-can-you-stop-fucking-around-gif-2298645845255946638

[modest thorn]

Most interesting thing in tc

Unfortunately

[midnight stirrup]

Who tf takes these terms so serious

[daring dove]

I'm F2P

[modest thorn]

Man I said a joke mb twin 💀

[midnight stirrup]

Stand on business blud

[elder skiff]

tc is not beating the general 2 allegations

[modest thorn]

I think I can stand behind that

[midnight stirrup]

You werent joking

[potent hornet]

like what is a whale to you

what $ amount spent?

[outer ermine]

forced2pay for my gil full pot when

[modest thorn]

I mean u said imagine being a Laevatain main and I said imagine calling urself a whale

[outer ermine]

[modest thorn]

Pretty obvious it was a joke clap back to a joke insult

[midnight stirrup]

Seemed very targeted for a joke

[modest thorn]

I didn’t even start it with u

[midnight stirrup]

Bro analysing all my messages like he Einstein

Anyway

[modest thorn]

[frozen tide]

dont think this is that deep

[midnight stirrup]

A total of 5 bucks and the gum stuck to my pants

[frozen tide]

i call anyone who has what i wish i had a whale

idk bout yall

[potent hornet]

well at least you can grab grand spectrum without getting a label

[modest thorn]

Oh I prolly have very diff definitions of whales lol

Cause I’ve seen whale whales

[potent hornet]

oh and is that $5 after tax?

[modest thorn]

Which I just call whales now cause I’ve been humbled

[frozen tide]

bro

why you sucking on whale dick

[potent hornet]

i have played EvE, those are real whales

[modest thorn]

Bro I’ve seen a whole guild spending 20k+ a month

[potent hornet]

thats it?

[modest thorn]

Like everyone in it

[outer ermine]

megashield

[modest thorn]

Obv there’s bigger whales but the min being that much is disgusting

[frozen tide]

there was a game called lineage in korea some players not taking account inflation spent literally over a mil a year

tho you made back a lot of that money tbh

[drifting quest]

everyone who isnt me is a whale

[frozen tide]

cause the game was heavily monetized on every level

[modest thorn]

League of legends is the most p2w game

[frozen tide]

for real

[potent hornet]

wut?

[drifting berry]

?

[modest thorn]

Imagine you start the game with lux but then some p2w guy pulls up with 3000 blue essence and plays malzahar 😔

So heavily monetized

[dapper mason]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-13031409

[drifting berry]

yeah not falling for rage bait today

[twilit quail]

how am I supposed to beat the guy when his champ is 4800 be and mine is less than 2k

[midnight stirrup]

[modest thorn]

Exactly what I’m saying, there’s no chance I beat these guys

[midnight stirrup]

Iana can u apply for mod

[twilit quail]

pay me a wage i can live on

[drifting quest]

they changed all the be costs and it messed with me

[dapper mason]

if its caedral malzahar, i think i can beat

[daring dove]

Which weapon banner do you all think is higher priority? Definitely doing at least two more on Ardelia's weapon banner for pot 5 Thermite cutter, but I'm not sure if I keep going for more pots on Ardelia's weapon or start chasing pots for LR weapon? Both Ardelia & LR's weapon are P2.

[midnight stirrup]

Striker

Are u trying to be a LR main all of sudden

Thought u were a laev rider

Get ardelia p5 first

[modest thorn]

Maxed everything they had to do side quests

[modest thorn]

Ik u run multiple teams so lowk id lean to ardelia since she’s used everywhere

And Akekuri buff

[daring dove]

I'm maxing both teams eventually. But yeah I think I'll go to at least P3 on Ardelia first since that's 50% shred to enemies.

[neat snow]

Why choose. Do all weapons

[midnight stirrup]

P5 doesnt see you deal much more damage on LR

I deal the same as someone with p0 khav

Ardelia sig p5 better invest

[modest thorn]

My opinion tho is imma just pull the “limited” weapons to p5 and along the way just max the permanent ones

[oak vigil]

^
The permanent weapons/operators can wait tbh

[modest thorn]

I lose the 25/75 way too often

[oak vigil]

Eventually you’ll max them, no rush either

[modest thorn]

Forced to max everything 😭

[midnight stirrup]

Youre not gonna max them by the time you can max them

Cause standard chars will be ass

[daring dove]

Only 15 pulls if I'm not going to chase Yvonne which I'm unlikely to do it just seems a quick way to burn money for zero benefit.

[midnight stirrup]

Either max m now or never

[modest thorn]

I just need a banner with dreams

[oak vigil]

Mmmm nuh-uh /j
But we’ll see where the game goes

[daring dove]

I might go for P0 Yvonne but that's basically just for ship & outpost management.

[modest thorn]

Where are my ardelia sig dupes

[frozen tide]

how can you even consistently whale for a standard char when there is no 50 50 or pity

[midnight stirrup]

Gacha be gacha

[tall swift]

not sure about that, arknights og standard characters were good for 2+ years @.@

[frozen tide]

very different game

and monetization system

[oak vigil]

That’s true, but knowing how Hyprglyph handled Arknights, I have high hopes

[midnight stirrup]

Stop comparing this game to OG AK already

This game has proven plenty times its not following it

[modest thorn]

I haven’t played og AK, what have they done diff?

[tall swift]

idk, quite a bit is same @.@

[midnight stirrup]

Ok so where are limited on standards

Why is the pity system not the same

[oak vigil]

I think they meant on how they handled Arknights, but not directly comparing both

[midnight stirrup]

Why do we not have tower defense

[drifting quest]

og arknights is an entirely different genre and design/balance/marketing/financial philosophy

[midnight stirrup]

What is similar to u besides lore

Lmfao

[tall swift]

that's the gacha system not the game systems?

[modest thorn]

Tower defense 🔥

[daring dove]

You get ruined most of the time if you chase potentials on a standard banner character. Cost me like $700 for 1 potential on Ardelia. Although I did pick up every other standard character sometimes twice first.

[midnight stirrup]

The game systems arent the same either bro

[drifting quest]

its not productive to compare the games at all

just leads to misunderstandings

[midnight stirrup]

^

[tall swift]

fair

[oak vigil]

The way I see it is that I don’t directly compare them, but I have some hope

[potent hornet]

yea see i haven't spent nearly that much

[midnight stirrup]

Glad I wasnt most of the time

[potent hornet]

i dropped like 175

[midnight stirrup]

[drifting quest]

you can have hopes about how things are ran but I would direct you to compare how hoyo handles their 4+ games or how kuro handles their 2+ games

[potent hornet]

for LR

and khrav

[drifting quest]

they are ran differently despite being under the same parent company

[tall swift]

stage 2 umbral part 2 already kind of shows similarities in the necessities of team building. like yeah you could brute force it but using defenders and other reactions, by swapping less meta characters into your team can make clearing things easier

[potent hornet]

and all my other stuff

[tall swift]

well

[daring dove]

To be fair I got LR to P5 for basically free, she was my first P5 standard as well. Even though I picked Ardelia on every selector.

[tall swift]

depends on the team you're running too

[oak vigil]

Mmmm, fair point

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym every selector

You only got one

[frozen tide]

i have literally gotten literally every 6 star once and no more except yvonne

[midnight stirrup]

Dont tell me u whaled on standard banner

[daring dove]

You get two.

[potent hornet]

i had the first one down before the 2nd could spawn

[daring dove]

Yep

[midnight stirrup]

U absolute

Nvm

[frozen tide]

i have p0 every 6 star except ard cause of the free one and yvonne cause i dont have her

[modest thorn]

300 pulls

[midnight stirrup]

[neat snow]

I did the standard banner selector also lol

[drifting quest]

smh whales

[tall swift]

yeah but for quite a few this was not the case

[neat snow]

But that's all I did for standard pulls

[modest thorn]

I’m glad I haven’t lost to lifeng yet

[neat snow]

Otherwise I'm just doing about 600 pulls per limited banner

[potent hornet]

i'm missing yvonne and lifeng

[tall swift]

what team are you running btw?

[potent hornet]

i don't think i'm gonna drop many pulls outside of her event stuff and the 10 spot they give you for the gilb banner

[potent hornet]

LR

[tall swift]

ah lr

[daring dove]

Yeah, to be honest, standard banner is likely one of the best places to whale at the beginning of the game if you want long term power. Because as soon as you get all them standard nerds P5. You get a lot more 6* weapon selectors. But it's literally just a whale strat.

[potent hornet]

p4/p5

[tall swift]

bruh

lmao

[potent hornet]

maxed artifice and essence

[modest thorn]

Striker are you over or under $35 spent?

[tall swift]

geez that's crazy

[potent hornet]

maxed stanza and deto unit for support

[daring dove]

I told you I'm F2P.

[modest thorn]

Oh gotcha so probably under

[oak vigil]

“probably” 💔

[neat snow]

If you spend over 35 dollar you are gambling addict

[potent hornet]

he just said he spent 700

[dapper mason]

for p1 ardel

[neat snow]

I'm really hoping I p5 my Ardelia on the Yvonne banner

[daring dove]

An P5 LR an P4 Lifung & P4 Ember to be fair.

But they came naturally. I wasn't chasing them.

[neat snow]

If I p9 LR I'll have to do something bad

[modest thorn]

He meant 700 seconds (true and fact checked) 👍

[drifting quest]

$16 and I have everything I want

[daring dove]

This

[potent hornet]

yea the side stuff you get if you pull the right stuff just kinda fills everything out

i could see being in a similar situation if i decided to drop more on the game

pretty happy with what i have now tho

if i get lucky on the yvonne banner with the free pulls i will drop an attempt on laev weapon again

[daring dove]

To be honest, it's way more sensible to just get 1 powerful team together an see how things evolve & go where the meta takes you.

[potent hornet]

try to get p1

[daring dove]

I just wanted a really strong team right away.

An went a little overboard

[potent hornet]

when i realized how close i was after dumping the free stuff into the weapon banner and basic pulls on LR i decided to push it with some dollars

i was only trying to spend like 100 but gambling took hold and got another 70ish out of me

[daring dove]

I mean I'm at the point now where I'm focusing on building a second team where I have literally no idea when that second team will be useful if ever.

[potent hornet]

my second will be laev, just got my gilberta to 80 so she can wear gear

[oak vigil]

Tbh I’ll probably buy a monthly thing and maybe 1 pack when I’ll get extra money from my pay so I won’t spend my savings, since I do enjoy this game

[potent hornet]

got p5 wolf leveled with a perf essence

that needs etching

gilbertas essence is close to being done

laev and weapon are 80

but they have like zero skills lol

[drifting quest]

id expect the third permanent mode to do it

maybe not a second team directly

but a wider roster

[potent hornet]

we should be getting something on the 24th

another trim medal

[daring dove]

I think the 24th is just a puzzle event.

Something similar to the camera event?

[potent hornet]

does that not mean build puzzles?

or like an actual puzzle

[neat snow]

I had the option to make a second team or max my ship operators.. I chose to max the ship operators

[daring dove]

Are you going to P5 Yvonne / every operator or just the ones you think are good?

[neat snow]

All

[daring dove]

Because if you're just maxing everyone I don't think it'll matter to you at all.

[frozen tide]

every operator eveyr p5?

what about weaps

[neat snow]

Undecided on weapons

I only have laevs team weapons maxed

And a few random

[daring dove]

When you're maxing every single character your resources should be pretty much unlimited going into the 4th or 5th month of the game I reckon.

[neat snow]

Yeah that's what I'm finding. It's just I got 'unlucky' and took gilb to p4 during Laev banner so I didn't get tons of stuff for her banner

[daring dove]

You'll have everyone built at that point minus limited crowns.

[potent hornet]

i figured laev was still pretty good at p0/p0

and could do the aoe stuff i might not be able to do with LR

[neat snow]

I'm sure she is. But she's truly crazy at p5 p5

[potent hornet]

thats what i have LR for

i like her pacing

and big number boom feel good

[neat snow]

Yeah I kind of want to play LR team for my second

[daring dove]

For me Laevatain & LR teams are the only ones that feel close to complete rn.

The others have some serious gaps.

[neat snow]

The only things not maxed on my Laev team is Ardelia potentials and the masteries for useless skills, I m3 the useful ones

All weapons essence and everything is maxed

[dapper mason]

i build them both, my f2p acc is sure lucky

[tall swift]

how about phys team though?

[daring dove]

I'm at a similar spot except I'm missing 1 potential on Thermite which I'll get in 2 days. An 3 potentials on Ardelia's weapon but she's max potential.

[tall swift]

it is expensive however

[potent hornet]

i'm trying to decide if i just want to dump adelia into my laev/wolf/gilb team or use akekuri

[drifting quest]

wulf potentials? build?

[potent hornet]

p5

with obj

p2

[drifting quest]

if its full essence/artificing to the right breakpoint then you can go with either, but the ake rotation is naturally easier

if you dont have the 200+ ult gain req on wulf then you have to go ake

[potent hornet]

hes good

[drifting quest]

thats still a bit short

i think its like 213

[potent hornet]

its not artificed or etched yet

[pure spoke]

chen solo agony 4

[drifting quest]

232, even

[potent hornet]

i just need to dump some essences into

and he should be fine

[drifting quest]

higher than i thought

[potent hornet]

well thats what i could get done with what i had

gotta wait for more stockbills

[balmy jay]

3.7k heals if one of the pinching beetle dies

[oak vigil]

I am genuinely confused at the 1:11 moment though
Any reason why Perlica’s caused for some reason two electrifications and two damage instances from a single battle skill?
Isn’t it supposed to be just 1 damage instance with just 1 electrification?

I feel like I still don’t understand arts reactions fully sob

[drifting quest]

2 parts, 2 nature inflictions, 2 electrification

hence the 2 health bars

[oak vigil]

OOOH okay, thanks

[potent hornet]

there we go

no too hard

don't even need full artifice

managed to get the rapid ascent 3/3 essence i was missing as well

[native aurora]

Hi! I have a very small question, wich is the best team comp for Yvonne?

[drifting quest]

best?
gilberta xaihi alesh

right now at least

[undone phoenix]

quick question regarding last rite's weapon

when it says (for every skill) what does it mean exactly

[native aurora]

Is not with last rite?

[drifting quest]

last rite is not good for yvonne

bad even

[native aurora]

ooo

[drifting quest]

but its a very popular guide recommendation by people who dont know better

so you have probably seen it suggested a lot

its okay for like overworld i guess

but for recrisis, trims especially, and umbral monument its not good

[native aurora]

Why is not good? Is for the rotation time? or both are fighting for the cryo charges?

[frozen tide]

Two carry dps just isn't ideal in general and yes both fight over cryo

They have anti synergy

[native aurora]

Like last rite and alesh?

[frozen tide]

Yvonne cs needs solidification

[drifting quest]

so you end up running last rite as a pure infliction bot which giga ruins her personal damage and makes her worse than just having a buffer most of the time
even for providing inflictions hers are slower to stack than other units
the argument is her sp refund but due to the way sp refunded works it causes massive misalignment of ultimate generation and doesnt end up making the rotation faster or cheaper than normal

and after all of that if you already have last rite you have a better team by building last rite hypercarry than yvonne hypercarry because last rite is just a better unit

[native aurora]