theorycrafting

[ashen scroll]

He just opus hater

[dry kindle]

at least be any skill mf

[ashen scroll]

[dire sable]

It depends, usefulness needs a ground. If you can do all of the content and get all the trimmed stuff, then it doesn't matter what you use.

Function needs to be defined

Otherwise terms mean nothing

[deep topaz]

alright thx
then im working on 25% improvement overall

[warm galleon]

I'm on p4 so may be it's 4th unless I got one on gacha, idk tbh

[unreal light]

What’s the default amount of Arclight skills during the rotation? 2 bs 4 combo ult?

[dapper mason]

1 from node 4 from shop i believed

[dry kindle]

mfw 4

[ashen scroll]

Then cry when the content get harder and your tCredit is 0 from leveling garbage weapon

[dire sable]

Watery water

[unreal light]

The amount of weapons in this game is finite

[ashen scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

[unreal light]

Then your take has no point at all

[signal sundial]

Me when I picked oblivion over detonation unit

Surely there's a future op that can use oblivion

[ashen scroll]

What are you even saying man

[unreal light]

It is easy

[ashen scroll]

???

[outer ermine]

cute baby

[unreal light]

At some point of time, you will have all your needed 5* and 6* weapons at level 90

[ashen scroll]

[gritty briar]

but they'll release new weapons

[unreal light]

And you won’t be able to upgrade them or what?

[gritty briar]

I actually don't think my ability to max weapons will outpace weapon releases

[ashen scroll]

Just let me ask do you agree to this behaviour or nah? I dont want to argue @unreal light

[gritty briar]

so i think that just won't happen

I wont max them all

[dire sable]

You're playing a guess game, I'm working with what is

[gritty briar]

and by this logic everything in the game is finite so you should just waste all your resources on whatever

[deep topaz]

what if I get Lae sig now, then when Zhuang Fangyi will need her sig I could probably start daisy chaining the banners after her since we'll have 3 banners before her sig disappears

thats probably just cope and I still wont have enough if I have to go until guarantee on Lae sig and/or I get "lucky" and win Zhuang Fangyi 50/50

assuming I dont pull for any limited along the way, right now I have enough for 120 pulls since I got "lucky" on Lae 50/50 plus the 100+ free standard pulls, I barely only have enough to guarantee 1 sig now

[unreal light]

Right at this moment we don’t have a content that forces you to play one weapon over the other

And at the time when such content comes (if it comes at all), they will have the resources needed to upgrade some other weapon

[unreal light]

What is content but wasting materials on new operators

[daring dove]

I think Laevatains sig is a pretty good investment assuming you see yourself using her a lot. As it is a really strong weapon for her. But it's entirely upto you .We may not see Zhuang for a long time best thing to do I guess would be wait for information on the upcoming banners to drop. Then if she's not in the next patch at all. Pick up Laevatains sig then.

[ashen scroll]

No? You dont play guess game because we try to use our resources on better stuff that available , not use whatever as long you got trim . . .
You can get trim with Slab slop too, should you ? No you shouldnt

[unreal light]

We don’t have much left after finishing the quests and soaking the world chests

[ashen scroll]

I mean you do you

[dire sable]

If it works, then I certainly should and will. If it works, it works.

[gritty briar]

they might not have the resources to obtain the weapon. The original context was about obtaining laev sig. That shit aint free

[unreal light]

But does the game force you to run her sig

[harsh slate]

No idea the sunglasses guy has been doing that for 10 year's

[gritty briar]

oh i thought you meant something else nvm

[ashen scroll]

I dont understand the meme , why so hype

[unreal light]

The sunglasses thing is not a bug but intended joke

It repeats, that’s it

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-sunglasses-glasses-gif-11912564503946093605

[ashen scroll]

Its like equivalent of kakashi take off his mask right, imo the zoom in ruin it. .
Its as if the dev pushing it to my face and be like " its funny right uhuhu"

The beta is alot funnier since no close up and subtle

[unreal light]

Well yeah forced joke

[ashen scroll]

Just there in the back ground but very noticeable

[unreal light]

Akin the penguin endministrator

Or raccoon hsr MC

[gritty briar]

i didn't see the beta but it does sound funnier without the zoom

[deep topaz]

yeah that was the original plan but I need to make a decision on her weapon now since I dont have anywhere to spend all the free sanity pots they giving us

I need to start farming weapon essences, I could farm the support first but that wont last long unless I also start maxing support essence

but we also have sanity discount soon so I'll still have to probably start farming for her essence before any announcements has been made

[ashen scroll]

I playing with male endmind so i late on penguin memd

[unreal light]

Doesn’t male also resemble a penguin?

[ashen scroll]

Imo he doesnt

[dawn patrol]

male endmin is just a guy

not penguinistrator

[unreal light]

White shirt, black jacket, yellow thing near face

[ashen scroll]

He just look like doktah but with more tech

[dire sable]

I'm also playing male, these memes about penguin are absolutely dead on me

[ashen scroll]

I think color scheme and her outline design make her looks like penguin , male one dont have both

[daring dove]

To be fair the support essences aren't really that important outside of a few exceptions. Most of your team damage comes from investing into your main DPS essence. Having a maxed out essence of Laevatain will easily increase your teams DPS by over 50% even at P0. Just the 39% ATK alone is a massive uplift.

[dawn patrol]

holy whel

[ashen scroll]

Yeah the essence attribute are just so good

[warm galleon]

Support can use purple essence like the only thing I'm missing is +3 medicant

[signal thistle]

why is type 50 yingling armor not considered here?

[deep topaz]

yeah thats what I'm saying so I have to make a decision now and wont be able to wait till her sig is about to leave

maybe I'll just get it

[dry kindle]

zoomed in because people kept thinking it was a bug

(they still did in second beta)

[daring dove]

I don't think you'll be disapointed if you do. An I think the chances of you missing out on your next desired sig as a result will be quite small if that helps.

[ashen scroll]

We dont know when the grass dragon release so . .

[deep topaz]

yeah thx

[ashen scroll]

How young are you to not getting the meme

Even my 5 months old daugther got the joke and laugh at it

[midnight stirrup]

[warm galleon]

Using yingling will net you 38 less str (19% atk loss) at max artificing, tbh it's okay if you're not planning to artifice.

[ashen scroll]

Didnt you got ban

[midnight stirrup]

Why would I be banned

[ashen scroll]

Idk , max pot LR?

[river scroll]

many people have complained about that sheet anyway
like saying Last Rite incredibly awful on early game, she does still work. there is also the Laevatain gear incident.

also LR should be T0 on late game, since she is the fastest on 2 boss now

[ashen scroll]

Yesterday your name turn white and your role is gone

[midnight stirrup]

Someone cant leave the server of their own choice?

[ashen scroll]

So i assume the mod is based LR hater like me

So you get out the server and rejoin? Interesting way to use of free will

[gritty briar]

banned for having LR avatar and not knowing how her bskill worked

[signal thistle]

ye just comparing stuffs on whats the most recommended armor for LR, prydwen has type 50 at 2nd somehow

[warm galleon]

LR heels sound like a horse shoe when running

[signal thistle]

not sure if this is assuming max artificed

[dry kindle]

prydwen mentioned

[signal thistle]

so i guess there's really no consensus armor for last rite

😭

[river scroll]

because type 50 buff all skill at all time. even though she got a little bit less stat, that skill% dmg buff, buff her combo and ult at the same time

[signal thistle]

everybody recommends different armors

[ashen scroll]

Go lore accurate and go naked

[midnight stirrup]

What does Type 50 even do

[ashen scroll]

[midnight stirrup]

First time seeing this armor

[river scroll]

buff all skill dmg

[midnight stirrup]

Oh thats ass

[signal thistle]

58 str is meh though

[drifting quest]

Solo calcs skew things

[midnight stirrup]

13,80% for everything

[signal thistle]

ye i think ill just frontiers

[midnight stirrup]

but LR damage is in combo and ult

which can be amped themselves by 20%+

[signal thistle]

its comparable to other sets and you dont have to fully artifice int

[dry kindle]

fund my stanza p5

[signal thistle]

ez resources saved

[midnight stirrup]

if u want a generalist buffing chest, go aether

stagger damage better

than whatever that is

[drifting quest]

Fund mine deal

I only need 3 more

[midnight stirrup]

stanza bad

[dry kindle]

i need 2

[midnight stirrup]

stanza hyperbait

maxed 4 star bettah

[dry kindle]

another stanza today

[warm galleon]

Still waiting for yvonne sig, i don't wanna lv 90 a wedge gun

[midnight stirrup]

Frontier is generally the best if <P2

[river scroll]

all works anyway
just depend what you are doing

[dry kindle]

also what about laev gear

[midnight stirrup]

Like?

[dry kindle]

if its hotwork slab or crit im killing you

[river scroll]

already talked about that yesterday

[river scroll]

it's the ult spam

[river scroll]

like what you say above? Frontier for <P2

[dry kindle]

wut

[drifting quest]

So many people are going to go -18k for artzy

[midnight stirrup]

So investment level

Not what youre doing

[peak void]

@ kame

[midnight stirrup]

Bro left sadge

[dry kindle]

🗿

[frozen tide]

I can get p4 stanza yippee

[midnight stirrup]

I keep wondering why yall not got p5 stanza yet

but I forget im a whale

[frozen tide]

Glad we ignored that clown enough to make him leave

[peak void]

gg no more tc background bot

[river scroll]

🐳

you better do LR speedrun now

[midnight stirrup]

We must carry on the torch

stanza bad

[frozen tide]

Stanza isn't goated if you have every p5 6 star

[peak void]

yea i hate stanza

[ashen scroll]

I have pot 0 stanza, while being f2pbtw

[dry kindle]

🗿

[ashen scroll]

[opaque geyser]

henlo

[frozen tide]

Why would you use stanza when p5 thermite gives more atk

[outer ermine]

sponsor me pepper

[midnight stirrup]

PFFFTTT

[peak void]

someone steal this man's stanza

[midnight stirrup]

arent u p5p5

how tf u p0 stanza

😭

[outer ermine]

thats fake news

[river scroll]

lv 1

[midnight stirrup]

which part

[frozen tide]

Los ratonas

[midnight stirrup]

oh

thats p6

fuck u

https://giphy.com/gifs/last-endfield-rite-FAeN90YJAj6XxtaJmD

[outer ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372509733889769554/1465402645760966756/JrF3bBb3yaYc7kTr-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[viscid turtle]

Hi folks for Akekuri better going frontiers or ulti regen

[ashen scroll]

P5 stanza or sheep woman sig p0?

[drifting quest]

Depends on team

[ashen scroll]

All max pot haver not equal

[drifting quest]

Then depends on gear and rot

[midnight stirrup]

In other words

It depends

[viscid turtle]

I like Akekuri SP battery xD

[midnight stirrup]

Where tf is Wulf

[viscid turtle]

I found Ake better than him ;x

[ashen scroll]

You just hate men

Woops

[warm galleon]

Who?

[frozen tide]

Frontiers kind of ass a lot of times

But does have use cases esp for speedkills

[viscid turtle]

Nah for real Akekuri is a good battery, wulf end up short just ulti spam with 0 dmg

[midnight stirrup]

I should start building my Laev team soon

[frozen tide]

I haven't even maxxed my lr team yet

[warm galleon]

Mine still lv 40

[frozen tide]

[midnight stirrup]

"Mainstay"

👀

[frozen tide]

Lr herself is practically maxxed

But not supports

[ashen scroll]

What you guys opinion on having multiple thermite cutter , should use for pot or lrft it p0 for multi teambuilding

[frozen tide]

You basically always use wulf

[ashen scroll]

[frozen tide]

Tho there are exceptions

[midnight stirrup]

Bro does not apply for those exceptions

[frozen tide]

Some umbral stages you might not want him

Some speedkills dont use him

[viscid turtle]

So Lae/Wulf/Ake/Gilb would be my go for it comp then Oo

[frozen tide]

Tho idek if those are record any more

[midnight stirrup]

I'm 6/9 on artificing

[frozen tide]

How

[midnight stirrup]

Still gotta do essence maxing on supports, and artifice their gear

[frozen tide]

Also would it be x/15

[midnight stirrup]

Perlica last one to 90/90

[frozen tide]

6/6/3

[midnight stirrup]

artificing is gear

[frozen tide]

Oh ur right

[midnight stirrup]

my essence is 9/9/9

on lr

[frozen tide]

I also just go for 303

Or 033

No point rly leveling secondarry attribute esp on kits

[midnight stirrup]

im 2/2/2 on gear

getting 3 too much of a hassle

and im out of xiranite comps

[warm galleon]

I can't even use my essence because it's for Yvon's sig that does not exist yet

[frozen tide]

Strength esp if main gear stat is far higher prio

[midnight stirrup]

and i cbb replacing factory on phone

[frozen tide]

Than will

[midnight stirrup]

ill wait till im on my ps5

[midnight stirrup]

i mean yeah

but its easier to get will up twice

than get up strength a third time

so i just balanced it

[unreal light]

What healing item does one run on the main character, if not yazhen syringes

[midnight stirrup]

capsule a

🙂‍↕️

[drifting quest]

Jincao Drink

[frozen tide]

Yazhen spray

The cosmo jelly

Slug meat

Uhhh i think there was one more notable

[unreal light]

And what’s the reason behind it

[frozen tide]

Yahzen spray is highest raw heal

Jelly is highest non farmed(you can buy)

Slug cleanses status

[drifting quest]

Jincao drinks are same production line as yahzen syringe, just different plant
Sell for the same amount
So you lose nothing to swap between producing the two types

[warm galleon]

I'm using thorny capsule

[frozen tide]

Also doesn't jelly get 4 uses instead of 3

With max upgrade

Kinda underrated

[unreal light]

Why would I use it instead of yazhen

[frozen tide]

Thats pretty good still

[frozen tide]

He asked for an alternate to syringe

[unreal light]

I asked

[ashen scroll]

Currently use jincao drink because i was needed to make certain amount of jincao for "craft manual" oroberryl and too lazy to change it out

[drifting quest]

Healing items are overkill anyway so minmax healing amount is useless
Jincao drink can be used by allies on main char

[ashen scroll]

[unreal light]

Because I heard people decided no to run syringe

On main character in team

[frozen tide]

Syringe is just ok

Best factory heal

[unreal light]

So their syringes are not spent on AI teammates or something

[ashen scroll]

Huh

[frozen tide]

Unless they do like 200 rhod runs a day taking dmg every time

You far out produce products than the amount you are locked to selling anyhow

[ashen scroll]

I dont think u even use 10 healing items a day and u have thousands of it

[frozen tide]

You produce far more batteries and syringes than you can sell with optimized factory

[warm galleon]

The consumption is really slow unless you spam bosses for fun.

[gritty briar]

even spamming bosses for fun, it'll take a while to use any meaningful amount

you'd have to get hit so often

[drifting quest]

2 battery 1 healing overcaps
1 battery 1 healing does not

[frozen tide]

What

[drifting quest]

So if you make components you will eventually stockpile unclaimed wuling stock bills

[frozen tide]

My factory is far from optimal

I make 10 bats per min and use 2

And make 6 syringes

Still out make products

[drifting quest]

Thats 2 battery 1 syringe

2 battery producing lines

[frozen tide]

One bat line is shorted

To feed part maker

[gritty briar]

well more like 1.66

[river scroll]

people already found a way to optimize factory, so they can have excess xiranite for filling pond, while still making Xiranite gear

[frozen tide]

And its also been out making parts i need for weekly artificing

[warm galleon]

We only need 2k components a week

[drifting quest]

I have like 300 catalysts and 40k components

No artificing

[frozen tide]

Why haven't you been artificing

[drifting quest]

Why would I

I dont need to

[warm galleon]

You technically can clear without aritificing

[frozen tide]

I suppose so

You don't "need" much in this game

[warm galleon]

Yah

[frozen tide]

You don't even have to pull

[drifting quest]

I artificed ult gain laev for testing thats it

[frozen tide]

The free story given chars and weaps are enough to clear

[warm galleon]

My only m3 is Xaihi both Yvon and LR are 9/9/9/9

Ohh m1 gilb ult

[frozen tide]

You don't need a single oroberyl arsenal origeometry standard pull limited pull hotizon pull

You don't need heals

You hardly need factory

[warm galleon]

I indeed did not pull til gilb banner

[ashen scroll]

Comparing not having a char/weapon with no artificing is kinda too far no?

[warm galleon]

Like i finished the story with blue armor on main dps only

Which is endmin

[frozen tide]

Its further in the spectrum but same argument applies in essence

[ashen scroll]

Like its make sense some guy limit their character prowes to have challenge on current content , not having hot anime girls is far way too different imo

[frozen tide]

I wasn't even arguing against shuo

I was just mentioning that you hardly ever truly need something

In this game

[daring dove]

I'm guessing there's no smarter way to get t-creds after you have done all the depot drops & cleared out regional goods other than Protocal space. It just seems like such an insane rip-off 80 sanity for 34k t-credts

[frozen tide]

Buy credit store t creds

Esp on sale

Every day

[ashen scroll]

Yes and im arguing that you do need 6 star wife

[gritty briar]

but what if wife is 5 star?

[warm galleon]

Pretty sure that 4star lizard fished a lot of guys

[ashen scroll]

5 star wife need pot 5

[frozen tide]

Ardelia is free

[ashen scroll]

Daughter not wife

[unreal light]

Does Perlica apply forced electrification level equal to the amount of stacks on your enemy?

[frozen tide]

Ardelia daughterwife

[drifting quest]

forced reactions are level 1

[frozen tide]

Perlica forced ele shouldn't interact with inflictions at all

[drifting quest]

except perlica p4 upgrades hers to level 2

[unreal light]

Arclight forced reaction level is equal to the amount of stacks

[frozen tide]

Can you extend higher electrification duration with forced

[drifting quest]

arclight consumes the inflictions

different case

wording might be the same idk

[gritty briar]

Wait it does? I thought it only increased duration

[drifting quest]

i dont read into it that deep

[drifting quest]

incorrect TL right now

[frozen tide]

En translation team at work

[drifting quest]

p1 increases duration

[gritty briar]

wow

en debuff

[unreal light]

Ah the lift lifted moment

[drifting quest]

#1474481074447978637 Ignore the random person complaining about AI

[frozen tide]

How they fuck up duration vs effect in translation

God knows

Maybe an intern worked on it

[drifting quest]

remnant from cbt

[ashen scroll]

Json you old Arknight player, u know well about this

And this mistranslation will last for years

[frozen tide]

Shuo

What is happening in that thread

😭

[drifting quest]

no clue

delusions

[outer ermine]

ai slop

[drifting quest]

it's very clearly not AI translated, at least not without manual review and tweaking after

which is fine if it is the case

[twilit quail]

what in the

[drifting quest]

I need to email the CS team too

[frozen tide]

Id rather not have translators use ai as a primary tool

But no evidence of it anyhow

[drifting quest]

why not
if they have thousands to tens of thousands of lines to translate what's wrong with expediting the process

as long as they manually review the lines, correct errors, tweak for better localization

it saves hundreds of man hours

if not thousands

[frozen tide]

It reduces human labor and brings down reliability

[daring dove]

Not sure if I should bother with artifcing the last strength pip on Laeveatain's gloves. It'll likely increase her ATK by less than 20. really hitting diminishing returns now. Think it might be better to start artificing Last Rite instead?

[drifting quest]

it reduces human labour (good thing???)
it brings down reliability (only if they ONLY use AI)

[ashen scroll]

Max it , i rather not forgor about it and left it not maxed for seasons

[frozen tide]

I do not see ai taking human labor jobs as a good thing but to each their own

[drifting quest]

its not taking their jobs

[frozen tide]

Ai in it's current state is also extremely unreliable for capturing nuances of language

[drifting quest]

its reducing the amount of work they have to do in the same job

[ashen scroll]

It not taking job they help you do the job

[dry kindle]

whel

[drifting quest]

^^

[ashen scroll]

[frozen tide]

The layoffs in companies that started aggressively integrating ai

Suggests to me otherwise

But like

I rly don't wanna argue this here anyhow

[drifting quest]

if i ask you to go translate 10000 lines into English from French

are you going to translate them by hand or are you going to slap them in google translate and then tweak them so they make sense

[frozen tide]

You can consider it your argument won

[drifting quest]

you are doing the same job either way, one is going to take less time by far

you are not being replaced by the AI, the AI is a tool to help you

[twilit quail]

as a guy who actually does work in this line

localisation

I still just raw dog it

[drifting quest]

[frozen tide]

Based

[tranquil burrow]

I use AI extensively as an SWE. I will say though that I enjoyed my work more before AI, regardless of perceived productivity gains.

[unreal light]

I don’t see How’s reducing humans labor bad

It allows you to use more people in other industries

[drifting quest]

There's definitely nuance to it

impossible to deny

AI is certainly taking some peoples jobs in other cases

[ashen scroll]

Well tbf ai completely replace someone on a job does happen but i dont think its a big deal since if they easily replaced by ai then might aswell make it not a real job

[drifting quest]

but in this case it's mostly a net good

[frozen tide]

As I've said before i do not wish to argue this further

[drifting quest]

I don't like AI because I learned to write in Academia which is the same thing AI was trained on so my writing constantly gets flagged as AI generated or I get told I write like an AI

[ashen scroll]

The amount of writters abusing ai is just so high every resembelance make they think you use ai now

[tranquil burrow]

There is no way to test if a text is AI generated. It's just a scam.

[frozen tide]

You can make better guesses than not but its never a certainty

And guesses shouldn't determine you are guilty

[grave idol]

I'm not sure how many times that some of those patterns come up organically

[daring dove]

We tried using AI to replace the tasks of transport planners at work, invested well over 1 million into the project. End result a complete waste of time & money. An being able to transport plan should be something AI should be decent at in theory. But compared to a professional or even a beginner in the industry the AI was constantly doing sub-optimal routes an causing deliveries to arrive late / fail. About the best use I have seen of AI is generating images for artist reference points or creating promotional posters. Outside of that it's pretty darn stupid.

[grave idol]

When there's more "It's not just x, it's y" than active voice in a video script, kind of a dead ringer

[gritty briar]

and the em dashes

[grave idol]

Transport planning is NP-hard and AI is stochastic

Terrible idea

[tranquil burrow]

Trivial to bypass

[long kite]

Before the huge surge, I've mostly heard of AI used for "throw stuff at the wall" type iterations

[twilit quail]

the em dash has been ruined by llms

[gritty briar]

right but the ones that dont bother to bypass are usually pretty obvious about it

[tranquil burrow]

https://www.seangoedecke.com/ai-detection/

This person is a Staff SWE at Github working directly with AI models. He goes into nice (non-technical) detail why AI generated text is actually straight impossible to detect if you're moderately competent.

[frozen tide]

You can make educated guesses on whether smth is ai or not but there's always gonna be a certain amount of uncertainty

[gritty briar]

can't reliably filter out every ai post but the extremely obvious ones that make almost 0 effort to hide it are all over the place

[unreal light]

Like imagine if you’re a state

And you have a way to gain more manpower so they work in more useful industry for the country development

It is literally what happened to the farmers once combine-harvesters were invented

Or to builders once the cranes were invented

It forced a giant section of population out of the endless harvesting in the fields, so the factory industry began to raise

[warm galleon]

Say no to AI! Let ME manually control trim bosses against other players!

[tranquil burrow]

Even AI art is getting harder to detect these days, but it's much harder to be competent with that so it's rare to get fooled by it. Text is just too easy.

[echo cove]

What glove is best on perlica?

[grave idol]

Most of the people moderately competent with AI are actually just using it as a prototyping tool or an autocomplete equivalent, where it's more energy efficient and environmentally friendly than their own power and water for an equal duration

[unreal light]

Country theorycrafting 101

[warm galleon]

Arts intensity one, unless main dps?

[echo cove]

Hmm why do i see sum lighting team perlica running the glove from her set?

[grave idol]

4H of work on a baseline/test/fill in the blank vs <25 prompts

[echo cove]

Main dps perlica... Is that even a thing?

[ashen scroll]

I think it reasonable just to ban ai on early education enviroment to teach student to learn how to resolves things tho

[frozen tide]

with investment and higher damage share dmg gloves can be good but arts intensity gloves is always safe to go for

[echo cove]

Interesting

[potent hornet]

she has the capacity to be

[tranquil burrow]

Let me tell you mate, I and everyone I know uses AI extensively and not once has the thought of its environmental impact crossed our minds. Like sure it may come up in random discussion but at work it never does.

Except that one time a guy tried to summarize a 23 minute YT video on AI Studio and it reported it was consuming half a million tokens...

[unreal light]

Do engineers ban calculators or something

[echo cove]

W8 why r u guys suddenly discussing that lol

[drifting quest]

More AI can be worse than a bit of damage due to diminishing returns

[echo cove]

Elaborate cos from what i understand, aether glove is good for low investment while the other glave is better if u invest more in perlica?

[grave idol]

It crosses the lips of twitter users and other people so I just want to point out that it's still better than making something equally detailed (though, obviously, not equally thorough, correct, etc) by hand

[echo cove]

What's the context here?

[unreal light]

Arts intensity

Xd

[tranquil burrow]

The full impact of AI on learning will only be learned with time. There's some studies suggesting it's not looking rosy but nothing definitive yet. It can help you cover breadth but depth is cooked since your brain simply doesn't have time to internalize things before you're able to move on.

[daring dove]

I wish I could find whoever keeps placing these into my world and FIRE THEM INTO THE FING SUN.

[rare rover]

what kinda theory is this?

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[echo cove]

Oh hm i see

[echo cove]

Elaborate on the diminishing return

[drifting quest]

Arts Intensity does not scale linearly

in the case of efficiency increasing reactions like electrification

[tranquil burrow]

Still seems to scale rather well still

[echo cove]

Ah... I see, so what's the optimal AI rn?

[tranquil burrow]

I don't think we can get several hundreds of it easily anyways?

[drifting quest]

about the 100 mark is where it can be worse to continue stacking

perlica hits like 150 with artificing iirc

[echo cove]

Yeah mine is around that

Can be to maybe 170 w the arther glove?

[drifting quest]

hence it can be better to grab some damage off the glove slot than grab more AI

its very minor so can be entirely preference

[warm galleon]

You can, view it then just delete them from your friend list and it will never spawn back, unless......

[unreal light]

The more of same multiplier you get, the less damage increases you see, so you potentially could have increased other multipliers to gain better outcome

Imagine as if you have 4 points and 2 multipliers

You may put more in one multiplier, so it would be 1 x 3

Or spare your gains across both 2 x 2

2 x2 has higher outcome than 1 x 3

[tranquil burrow]

Going from 0 to 1 is 100% and 1 to 2 is 50% and 2 to 3 is 33% increase and so on

[echo cove]

Hm... I can follow that logic but from that table, it seem ~150 still give quite alot..? It seems to me after 150 is where it start being questinable

[drifting quest]

there's still value in going higher yes

[gritty briar]

it's not like there's a sharp dropoff anywhere specific. It's just gradually getting worse

[echo cove]

I get that part, i was moreso asking what calc was used to say it was diminishing return for AI on perlica cos iirc electrification only take from AI and nothing else

[ashen scroll]

Want to talk about it more but i dont want to OoT too much

[echo cove]

Seem 100 is the breaking point for efficiency, while abt i'd say after 125 it rly slows considerably huh

I will note that down for now

[drifting quest]

as with all things its a case of opportunity cost

[unreal light]

I feel it should drastically increase once you hit 300

But they won’t allow us to hit 300

[drifting quest]

some cases you gain more by continuing to stack intensity (e.g. pog)
some cases personal damage can warrant stopping earlier (e.g. Perlica)

[tranquil burrow]

The efficiency loss looks to be just ~20ish% even at 200. It's there but nothing crazy.

[outer ermine]

surely w monaihe

[echo cove]

I take it even w that calc, more dmg on perlica wouldn't matter much unless u actively use her skill as well, yeh?

[unreal light]

Feelscrafting 101

[unreal light]

Her ulti is her main damage output

[drifting quest]

its assuming combo ulti

[echo cove]

Like for last rite team, it's prolly still better to just do AI, no?

[echo cove]

Huh.... Noted

[drifting quest]

for electric teams where perlica might skill as well at highest investment you can drop AI entirely and just build dps perlica

[echo cove]

Hmm i see

Noted

[unreal light]

She’s hasn’t like other sets to choose from

MI

Or pulser with a slab

[twilit quail]

crit set and 1 slab perlica is leading umbral speedrun times rn

avywenna is benched for electric

[warm galleon]

+8 on detonation

[echo cove]

Critset?

[unreal light]

MI

[echo cove]

W8 what

[daring dove]

Should I invest in making these two 90 for LR team?

[drifting quest]

makes sense for umbral

[daring dove]

Or is 80 fine for them?

[drifting quest]

crit set doing crit set things

how many people can we bait

[gritty briar]

is there a community leaderboard somewhere?

[drifting quest]

not yet afaik

[echo cove]

Critfishing? Kekw

[unreal light]

Nah

[gritty briar]

no arkrec equivalent?

😔

[daring dove]

There's no true end-game content rn that warrants it anyway to be honest.

[unreal light]

God forbid

[gritty briar]

well i mean we have timers and can do speedruns

[unreal light]

I’m tired of people bragging about their 34CC, when all they do is copy some Bilibili Ling solo

[gritty briar]

look even the most babymode games have speedrun leaderboards

not having hard content isn't a real reason

[umbral galleon]

next update when

[unreal light]

I believe there are speedrun leaderboards from level 1 to marble

[unreal light]

Tomorrow umbral second part comes out

[echo cove]

They need to release a way for tracking each chara's total damage man...

I wanna see how much dmg my supports does

[warm galleon]

Speedrun factory building no blueprint

[echo cove]

Btw bannerchange when

[unreal light]

3 days or so

Couple of days after the umbral comes out

[tranquil burrow]

2 days I think

[echo cove]

Demn

[tranquil burrow]

I'm itching to gamba

I have a feeling I'm gonna hit the dreaded 120-80 this time around

[unreal light]

Gamba angelina

[echo cove]

Oh ye

[tranquil burrow]

and on Yvonne of all people

reee

[echo cove]

Btw, yinglung chest on lr. Good or bad?

[daring dove]

On content you can go into with a bunch of buffs active & all your ults ready. On Bosses that that have silly inter-battle phases. Only good speedruns are those that manage to cheese those mechanics.

[warm galleon]

Okay as long as you are not planning to artifice yet

At max str artifice you'll be missing 19% atk with it vs other str main body.

[gritty briar]

speedrun categories can have rules though, like no entering with food buffs or whatever.

i dont see how a community speedrun leaderboard is unwarranted for this game when we have a bunch of speedrun leaderboards for shit like cooking mama or whatever

[daring dove]

Proper end-game mode would be (no buffs) zero energy starts like Umbral, but lets be honest Umbral rn is mostly Laevatain / Gilberta shill & doesn't have the proper difficulty we need.

The content should come eventually but RN it's all half baked.

[tranquil burrow]

Umbral doesn't shill anyone

[drifting quest]

new umbral tomorrow

[gritty briar]

arkrec had categories like 4 star only, vanguard only, etc

[tranquil burrow]

far as I can tell

[drifting quest]

it doesnt yet

if tomorrow is like sgt fights x3 then there's slight shill

[gritty briar]

Would be cool to see a compilation of solo clears in this game

[drifting quest]

if it has like heat res, cryo weak + sgt

then we laugh

[tranquil burrow]

10 minute timer means it's whatever unless the res is like 80% or something

[warm galleon]

Corrosion weak

[drifting quest]

doesnt matter now, doesnt matter even if timer remains 10m

[echo cove]

So best piece would still be aethertech?

[tranquil burrow]

There's little incentive to shill given agony doesn't reward pull currency so it can't bait those people who spend 120 pulls to earn 2 more

[warm galleon]

Tbh I forgot what I have on my LR
Sorry

[drifting quest]

as with a lot of things
it doesnt yet

[tranquil burrow]

Well, some light shilling doesn't hurt

[drifting quest]

if it will in future is something that cant be predicted

[tranquil burrow]

No I'm saying there's little incentive to shill hard like HSR does, not that it won't

or ZZZ, etc.

[drifting quest]

im saying they can add a new mode or change umbral to make it worth shilling hard

[tranquil burrow]

They obv still want to sell units so if they find an alternative way they might just not shill in Umbral

[drifting quest]

adding pull currency to agony, likely with reduced clear time requirements

[tranquil burrow]

That would be a strange change

It'll just result in a controversy

[drifting quest]

i dont think adding more rewards would be that controversial when done

[tranquil burrow]

What's more likely I think is a new mode entirely that has stronger shilling

[drifting quest]

maybe months to years down the line if it becomes hoyo-esque with shill

[lost void]

Question: aside from Grand Vision easier to obtain because you can just buy it easily, do you think in the long run Eminent Repute might actually BiS for Endmind since the Arts intensity stat might not boosy his output?

I mean if you scrutinize the stats, sacrificing personal damage for team output?

[unreal light]

Arts intensity boosts their output

That is the thing

[drifting quest]

gv should scale better too

fwir

[unreal light]

Gv offers arts intensity which increases your crush damage

Oh sorry I mean crushed damage

[drifting quest]

repute maybe has some speedrun lines where the attack buffs a like p3+ lifeng and chen too

[lost void]

Max stat Eminent seems to synergize with his role as team support through talent.

[final plume]

is there no "tricks" to upgrading essences like in gear artificing you could improve your base chances by using gear pieces that have higher base stats than the one you're upgrading?

[drifting quest]

endmin isnt currently a team support

in optimal teams

they are (one of) the dps payoffs

[tranquil burrow]

Nope, but use gel on +6s as they have even lower chance than +3 in the 3rd stat

[unreal light]

Endmin deals half of your team’s damage

Chen deals another half

[unreal light]

No tricks, just don’t spend your gel on anything but 5->6

[tranquil burrow]

I wish they'd change essences so that consuming a +4 essence gives 40 gel or something

[final plume]

@unreal light yeah I saw that one atleast and min maxing what essences you could get while farming

[lost void]

But in a way in the background he does because of his talent. It may not be obvious probably that's why Ch'en is hitting like a truck.

[gritty briar]

i wonder if they'll continue the trend of adding support stuff to his originium seal on his potentials

it would be incredibly funny if max pot endmin just applies originium seal and there's like a billion buffs and debuffs going off from it

[lost void]

He's Endmin after all I mean he is suppose to be the chessmaster/puppetmaster just like Doctor. He leads them.

[gritty briar]

originium seal is his gimmick so i could see the angle where they focus more on it

[daring dove]

Whoever put that daily in where you get 1k T-creds needs to be sat down for a meeting with HR about their future prospects. Maybe try 20x that number an it would be worth doing.

[lost void]

Not unless there is somebody else who can use originium the only thing I could think of that would pair with him is Priestess.

[gritty briar]

just have a lot more "when originium seal is broken" effects on his pots

currently it returns sp and buffs the whole team's attack

[lost void]

Or P5 would probably convert his damage to aether damage.. something like that.

[final plume]

@tranquil burrow hmmm if I have no gel do I just brute force one 5 to 6 and then use the saved up gel on the next 5 to 6
or do I just use the gel immediately once I have enough, for example I already tried like say 30 times failed and then got enough gel do I keep going cause average is 37 or spend the gel now at 30+ tries?

[lost void]

There is definitely pot where seal will be prolonged or chance it will not be consumed like ignore mechanics or probably forced originium seal.

Or it will have interaction with his BS when vuln stacks is max and consumed, applied forced originium

[green acorn]

An average is an average, if you've already done 30/37 you might get it in the next 7, you might get it in the next 30 as it's not a cumulative % afaik, Gel offers a guarantee so when to use it is up to you

[unreal light]

I don’t try upgrading 5-> 6 with essences, I start upgrading other stats or other essences, and as soon as I hit 450 failing on them, I come back to the most desired 5->6 and unlock it with gel

[gritty briar]

I'd want them to lean into how reactive originium is.
Something like "when originium seal breaks, forcibly apply a reaction of any applied inflictions without consuming the stack"

or maybe have ulting the seal apply like all 4 reactions or something goofy

[final plume]

ohh nice tip, I can also work on my support essences this way cause they dont usually need maxing

[lost void]

would be a great synergy with additional phys sus from his ulti. Suscs also stack right?

[wanton notch]

Can someone explain my dumb ass how this combination of characters lead to this Chen ult damage

https://vxtwitter.com/Sciel12/status/2025154417645994418?t=apUoL1CHYc-ucoLdIPsr9w&s=19

Sciel (@Sciel12)

#Endfield
Almost 3M damage

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Feb 21, 2026, 10:23 AM

[gritty briar]

wtf is that team

[green acorn]

Level 75 boss

[lost void]

One is definitely from Link

[civic wolf]

so im not in a hurry to get another team going, i already got a lot of the trim and i got bored with Lava

is Yvonne + Gilberta a better team attempt investing over Monophys if the investment cost is a concern?

going all in on Monophys seems to be unreasonably expensive because unlike other teams you want to fully invest on your DPS

[gritty briar]

this team has link?

[civic wolf]

which means uncapping all four characters in that team LOL 💀

[lost void]

Phys team is expensive because you have to pull for many operators and have to promote them side by side.

[green acorn]

only Lifeng and Akekuri have Link

[civic wolf]

i have all the characters in that comp

its just that i just wanted to know if its expected that Yvonne cost a lot less than monophys

[tranquil burrow]

and Tangtang is next and she might turn out to be phys

[wanton notch]

I mean that's definitely a part. Maybe having higher level than enemy gives bonus damage? Although.. I don't think that system exist (and I don't mean lower level enemies having less defense)

[lost void]

Were you able to promote them at highest promotion?

[civic wolf]

not yet

just Pog for some reason (I didn't know any better)

[lost void]

I think that's a practical decision since investing in him will increase team output

[civic wolf]

but yeah

Yvonne over monophys if i want something cheaper?

[lost void]

One way of seeing it based from game mechanics from other games such as AG and DN is FD (yeah final damage)

[lost void]

I don't have Yvonne yet but I think you can settle for lower investment on her support as she will be hypercarrying the team.

[green acorn]

I'm gonna guess something strange is up, and that it's a private server or something, Xaihi heals the controlled char for 12k and herself for 14k when using her ulti which uhh, she don't do that 😅

[civic wolf]

hey wait a minute i dont remember that being the bottom left icon

guessing this is CBT1

[gritty briar]

oh it's beta footage

[lost void]

Her BS buff has 2 counter it healed control to full, the next counter will heal another one from the team

[gritty briar]

he links the yt video right under it

it's a beta footage showcase

[green acorn]

I'm aware, but her ability had not hit, and it doesn't heal for anywhere near that much 😅

[gritty briar]

it's from when rapid ascent had crit damage instead of crit chance

[frozen tide]

115 pulls

technically not hard pity

[civic wolf]

yeah no im not going insane

the bottom left icon on CBT1 used their character illust

[warped gate]

Gibbles

[lost void]

The footage was from yesterday and considering Sciel and his reputation in Arknights he does content real time if this guy is the same YTer Sciel from AK.

edit: confirmed with the link from X to his YT channel

[gritty briar]

dude he literally says it's from cbt1 in the comments of the video linked under it

mystery solved

[tranquil burrow]

You made it on time eh

[frozen tide]

kinda salty i got it at 115

would rather have got her on 120 atp

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah but 2500 currency in 2 days might've been sketch

[frozen tide]

umbral reset

[warped gate]

EN can't read, it's usual

[frozen tide]

i also have origeometry

i was saving for bp

that i woulda blasted

[tranquil burrow]

You haven't bought 2nd tier yet?

Oh wait

[frozen tide]

im saving for next bp

[tranquil burrow]

next bp

yeah

I forgor

[frozen tide]

good habit

so you dont have to spend for bp

[tranquil burrow]

The 2nd tier is actually just a slightly better version of free bp from other games anyways

If you compare ratio of rewards between free & paid

I guess one more psychological trick these devs employ to think they're getting some godly deal or whatever

[twilit quail]

obt biggest number Ive seen was a 3.28m

from lae

[frozen tide]

i mean its fully free

if u just save origeometry

makes more origeometry than u spend

no complaints from me

[unreal light]

Perlica does not consume stacks with forced electrification, correct?

[tranquil burrow]

Yeah but my point is that other games with 2 tiers of BP (free + paid), their free track is typically almost as good as the first two tiers combined in here

[lost void]

You can use the origeometry to buy tier one BP next month

[frozen tide]

yeah but if you get impatient and spend it

[tranquil burrow]

Ratio between paid and free is typically 1:3 but here the ratio between free and paid is 1:9 without the 2nd tier

[frozen tide]

you need to spend money

so you should save some

[unreal light]

Do you know?

I can’t login rn to be sure

[frozen tide]

it doesnt consume

it only consumes if it explicitly states or if there is a mistranslation

forced reactions normally are fully separate

[civic wolf]

if i try to do 30 pulls i'll be basically set back by something i can only recover by pulling 60-80 times on the char banner, am I 💀

[drifting quest]

unless you're willing to go all the way its a bait to pull

[humble matrix]

Potentially missing a rate up weapon over a standard weapon is not a risk I'll take

I'm khravengerless too 🫠

[civic wolf]

i think the weird part about not having sig is that investing into a character's weapon means that you're basically investing on something extremely costly only to be replaced once you get that sig

so im a bit unsure ngl

[dusk isle]

Talking about arts stacks? No it doesnt. Forced reactions directly apply the condition

[civic wolf]

like im not even sure i want to invest on navigator just in case somehow Yvonne sig becomes... good?

[tranquil burrow]

If you're willing to consume the weapon it returns all the upgrade materials and credits invested in it, but not the gatherable minerals

[civic wolf]

im talking about the etching

[tranquil burrow]

Essence is even better though, you just pop it out

[peak void]

khrav is not a standard weapon, you cant offrate it

[humble matrix]

"Extremely costly" kind of becomes a non issue. All you'll do is farm essence at a certain point, simply because you don't need anything else.

[tranquil burrow]

Trust a free selector by next anniv or something surely

[humble matrix]

A standard's weapon

[civic wolf]

yeah no aint no way tehy're giving out that THAT easily

the perma sig situation is a bit unique because unlike other game you're basically not allowed to offrateup it at all

[tranquil burrow]

It's just a standard weapon vro

Nothing serious

[civic wolf]

no

perma sigs, are something you have to go out of their way to 80 pulls it

this isn't something you can get from losing the 25/75

at all

ever

the only thing they have over limited sigs

are being purchasable from P5 6* dupes

and I dont think anyone would ever get that anytime soon

[tranquil burrow]

They're sigs for standard chars at the end of the day

Standard pulls are much harder to acquire, doesn't mean they're more valuable

[peak void]

clannibal is sig for standard character too

its offrateable tho

[drifting quest]

sig for a 5*

[tranquil burrow]

Sigs of 6 star standards won't show up in rotation

[civic wolf]

i meant standard 6* sigs

[drifting quest]

not the same

[full gazelle]

Does every character have a sig weapon???

[peak void]

lumping standard sig and standard wep is just gonna cause u confusion down the line

[civic wolf]

cuz for whatever reason they made it HARDER to get than other 6* weps

[peak void]

just tryna make a point for disambiguation

[full gazelle]

I also mean 4* and 5*

[tranquil burrow]

Well technically for a spender it's the sigs for 5 star chars that are harder to acquire at any given moment

[civic wolf]

huh, how so? which ones are those again?

[tranquil burrow]

Off rates

without a banner

• the generic 6 stars

[peak void]

ppl praying for stanza in the shop

[tranquil burrow]

Getting P5 Khraven is easier than P5 Detonation Unit 🧱

25% chance for each 6 star weapon to be banner weapon whereas only 9% chance for it to be target off-banner

[peak void]

is p5 stanza better than delivery

[tranquil burrow]

I forgot but I believe they do give an off-rate selector every 100 pulls or something? Can't recall

[drifting quest]

need ult gain? no? yes
yes? no

[peak void]

aw man

were u around yesterday shuo

[drifting quest]

idk

i was here at times

without context i dont know what specific time you mean

[lost void]

but only from the selected pool

[tranquil burrow]

Well you would be pulling on the banner with your target weapon anyways

[daring dove]

This random dude thinks he's Naruto.

[peak void]

there was this guy going insane and cant accept that a 5-star wep can be better than 6-star

[drifting quest]

lmao

[halcyon lark]

stanza is back in shop again should I buy it?

[peak void]

specficially p5 stanza and del lol

they were like

[halcyon lark]

this is like my pot 2 stanza now.

[peak void]

talking to a wall for 3 hours

[drifting quest]

delivery guaranteed is ONLY good because it has ult gain

[halcyon lark]

[halcyon lark]

I mean that Ult gain is massive.

[drifting quest]

it is

it matters for some rotations

[halcyon lark]

Pair it up with more ult gains she literally just spams ult.

[drifting quest]

but if you dont need it then its really mid

[halcyon lark]

I need it to make mobs float longer.

[peak void]

I dont really need the miniscule gain from 1 stanza pot so id rather just save it for signature pulls

[halcyon lark]

I see, so we saving?

[pure spoke]

I dont even know if i have stanza.

[peak void]

I would save, dk if you agree w my approach

[halcyon lark]

well, I do have detonate.

I am wondering if starry beach is > stanza.

at pot5.

[daring dove]

As a 260 Ult gain Gilberta haver it's good.

[tranquil burrow]

that 20 second cooldown in the corner:

[halcyon lark]

same It feels nice to spam ult and get that extra infliction for yvonne to charge up hers.

For some reason she always seem to have it up.

[gritty olive]

Im gonna

[tranquil burrow]

Also I hate they use 100% as the base, so 160% is actually 1.6x and not 2.6x as you'd expect since most other games start bonuses at 0%

[gritty olive]

What?

[tranquil burrow]

What what

[gritty olive]

Did you mean ult gain efficiency?

[dry kindle]

its ult gain eff

not bonus ult gain eff

[gritty olive]

genshin hsr starts at 100%

[tranquil burrow]

Any stat really, I noticed this first with Dijiang bonuses

I was thinking holy shit 180% wahoo

but yeah

[daring dove]

If you combine with P4, it's closer to 200% when you consider the cost reduction of the ult as well. But yeah whale stuff.

[eternal pilot]

finally got lv90 charac and weapon lv for chen endmin and lifeng on my physical sustainless so now im planning on building a 2nd team (laeva, gilberta, wulfgard, akekuri)

however, i am VERY broke on tcredits so i would like to determine how much dmg contribution the teammates does / if any of them is fine to leave at lv60/80 for gold gear

i do plan on lv80ing laeva and her sig weapon but im wondering if her teammates can just be lv60 or if their dmg is nonnegligible enough to merit them also wanting lv80

[gritty olive]

I assumed theyre 0

[ocean hawk]

what are the chances we can have negative t-creds

loanshark system (just one more lvl 90 operator HG, just one more)

[tranquil burrow]

I wish we had an faq pinned for the more common questions

[eternal pilot]

eh? 0 what (oh u mean their dmg contribution?)

[gritty olive]

Yeah

[dense hatch]

Wondering if someone can help me with a question.

Everywhere i look, people say Yvonne isn't that good, ie, prydwen/iana. But the fastest runs for trimmed medals that i've seen has consistently been yvonne, (ie 26s Rhodagn by Ziimen). What am i missing that TC say Yvonne is so mediocre and what is Ziiimen doing in his videos that his runs are so fast?

[gritty olive]

Gilb should have something

[drifting quest]

26s is like double to triple to fastest speed

we have technically 0s speedruns

[dense hatch]

what LOL

[drifting quest]

but most teams are at the 10-15s mark

[dense hatch]

where?

[drifting quest]

avywenna + a bug

[dry kindle]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1ugFYzREVA/

[dry kindle]

or that

we love stew

[dense hatch]

jesus christ, how do ppl find these

[drifting quest]

yvonne is speedrunning as fast as physical, a team well known for not being good at speedrunning

[outer ermine]

26s

[drifting quest]

slower than physical even

bad is also a

relative comment

not an objective one

[outer ermine]

ey atleast yvonne 37s in b&a

[drifting quest]

yvonne has objective kit flaws, and objectively bad team options

[dry kindle]

until you get knocked out of ult

[outer ermine]

[drifting quest]

but the game is easy enough that she is good enough to clear

[dense hatch]

xd how tf, where do ppl find these? Unless i just have to be chinese to keep up.
Cause everything else on youtube is like, 1:26 or smth

[drifting quest]

there's a good

x100 maybe x1000 the clears on bilibili

[dry kindle]

then you relatively die from cringe

[drifting quest]

compared to youtube

[unreal light]

What’s the bug

[drifting quest]

no cap on stew meeting usage

[unreal light]

Yeah just scroll bilibili and insert character names in Chinese

[outer ermine]

still waiting for sub 10 lr

[warped gate]

LR is the fastest right now from sheer spike

Until we get sandbags that need 2-3 spike rotations

[dense hatch]

lol, this laeva run is 15s, her gilberta is lv60 with a lv20wep 😭

[unreal light]

Is it patched?

[drifting quest]

idk

[unreal light]

This one right?

[drifting quest]

thats the non bug version

[oak vigil]

I am sorry but, WITH NO ULT FROM LR???

My bad for playing the same game, what the fuck

[drifting quest]

if you're invested enough you dont need ult

its p5/p5 lr + ard

[outer ermine]

r5 starry

[drifting quest]

p5 deto xaihi, p5 stanza

maxed essences where relevant

[dry kindle]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1uJZsBfEcM/ then you remember this one exists

[fresh trench]

if i wanna make snowshine DPS what set or great sword should i use

[frozen tide]

yo shuo whats your talent lvl recommendation for high investment gilb

[outer ermine]

theres a 13s w 1+5 iirc

[drifting quest]

define high invest

[frozen tide]

lvl 90 max artifice essencing

no sig

but max pot stanza

[drifting quest]

potentials?

[frozen tide]

p0

[drifting quest]

i mean
x/12/12/12 if chasing high pot
x/x/12/10 if minmaxxing
x/x/x/10 if minimal buffmaxxing

[frozen tide]

12 cs 10 ult?

[unique wraith]

i tried snowshine DPS its ok thou, hit not as hard as ember. she's good with lastrite in marble tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uHWT3mOplo

[oak vigil]

diabolical title and thumbnail, god damn

[peak void]

wtf is this

[fresh trench]

i meant as in solo 💀

[frozen tide]

bruh i got a 3/1/1 gilb sig essence when i dont have sig and dont plan to pull

[outer ermine]

games telling u something

[frozen tide]

m3 cs m1 ult for third right

[peak void]

pull gilb sig, NOW!!!!

[frozen tide]

i have p5 stanza

i dont want p0 sig

aight thx shuo

[peak void]

ok but p0 sig is better tho 🤫

[drifting quest]

cost is pretty outrageous for the gain

but if you're rich

does nothing for speedruns too

[fresh trench]

nuh uh

[unreal light]

What m3 does to her cs I’m unaware

[fresh trench]

i dont have ticket

[frozen tide]

my guess is 1 sec cd reduction

[drifting quest]

-1s cooldown + pretty fat damage multiplier

[frozen tide]

but i gotta check

[unreal light]

Ahh but you have both kidneys, don’t you

[frozen tide]

would m3 ult or m3 bs be prio

if i were to get one of em m3

[fresh trench]

i need it for maid outfit

[drifting quest]

ult does nothing after m1 for buffing

[peak void]

hm.

[drifting quest]

cs is purely minmax for longer fights

i would not be recommending it for 90+% of people

[twilit quail]

chat should I try it it sounds good

[drifting quest]

there are some rotations where it matters but like

it is not mattering

[drifting quest]

why does it look like they dropped a piece of potato in the drink on the left

[twilit quail]

it's not drink it's steamed egg

[dry kindle]

smh shuo cant read

[fresh trench]

i just realized something

[twilit quail]

he cant read

[fresh trench]

snowshine ear is her real ears... i thought she wear headphone

[drifting quest]

if your first reaction was to read the text im concerned

[twilit quail]

what did he mean by this

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

those with animal ears have two sets of ears

lore relevant fact

[dry kindle]

so

what bullshit are we betting the umbral tomorrow is gonna be

[unreal light]

I feel like I would not

Wait Iana, sincere question

[twilit quail]

they just bring back the cbt1 ranged enemies that attack 24/7 with invisible projectiles

[unreal light]

You know there is Chinese cuisine

[peak void]

laevatain sweeps everything again, content drought again

[dry kindle]

waaah

[unreal light]

Well you certainly do

[drifting quest]

probably the tanky aggeloi + trash
buncha ranged ones as trash
wuling one as the 'boss' fight

some are confirmed actually

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

i need to find it

[unreal light]

Do you eat the meals of Chinese cuisine on a daily basis?

[drifting quest]

yeah Walking Chrysopolis is one stage confirmed

[twilit quail]

uhh

[dry kindle]

yay

[twilit quail]

Im a good cook so I usually cook for myself

[frozen tide]

iana should i grab monaihe pots from shop if they show up

[dry kindle]

[twilit quail]

and I make chinese yeah

[frozen tide]

how good is your fried tomato eggs

[twilit quail]

uhh

[frozen tide]

whenever i try

it becomes soup

[twilit quail]

the quality of the tomatoes is exceptionally important

ok skill issue

[dry kindle]

have you considered frying them

[twilit quail]

ok so for anything chinese

you first need a powerful stove

and a large pan with lots of heft

otherwise it is all meaningless

[frozen tide]

yeah not happening on my shit electric stoves

i dont have a portable jet engine to use as a stove sadly

[unreal light]

Cause when I think of my country cuisine, we don’t really eat it on the daily basis, more like during holidays or just when we want something uhh exotic, not just another meat portion with some side dish

[twilit quail]

a very important factor is retaining the temperature inside the pan

when the ingredient goes in

[dry kindle]

monetary skill issue

[twilit quail]

I know what you mean, there is a distinction between daily cooking and "proper" cooking as well

[frozen tide]

dam

[twilit quail]

If we are just at home we wont make anything that takes too much effort

and there are a variety of home cooking dishes

that change from region to region

the line gets blurred a lot though

[frozen tide]

i like peppercorns

i put it in everything when im making smth that seems chinese if i have em

🔥

[twilit quail]

I ship over peppercorn varieties from china lol

same for chili

[fresh trench]

i dug myself a hole too deep to get out

[frozen tide]

its not too late

sunken cost fallacy

[frozen tide]

the ship had a massive hole in it to start with

[fresh trench]

which sword better

[frozen tide]

that shit looks like bougie spam mussubi

[twilit quail]

damn we 90 both of them?

[fresh trench]

you can also count this

[frozen tide]

for dps?

[fresh trench]

yeah

[outer ermine]

whel

[frozen tide]

dark lung is kinda dookie for dmg

prbably just sundered

[frozen tide]

should i cop monaihe pots from shop if they show up on daily

for per gilb

[twilit quail]

probably not lol

[frozen tide]

😭

[fresh trench]

but it increase atk by 30 tho

[twilit quail]

[frozen tide]

yeah but it has 5 star base atk and nothing else unless you can rly make the ult charge bonus count

man im getting an unreasonable urge to pull for gilb sig

i have 1 10 pull

can maybe squeeze out 2

thats like 20 percent chance to get p0 sig

[fresh trench]

its not unreasonable

[frozen tide]

and p0 sig isnt even good

[fresh trench]

if you wanted it

[frozen tide]

i think the weapon looks dope

but in practice its not that great

esp when i have max pot stanza

[quaint matrix]

whati why did we get 880 ticket today

[frozen tide]

yeah i cant cope enough to justify delivery

gonna use my currency on khrav before i get more urges

also why is mona better than obj

for perlica

[ocean hawk]

free crowns

[frozen tide]

they trynna do dmg control for ppl who pulled yvonne

[quaint matrix]

fuck

[drifting quest]

free crowns
looks inside
1 crown

[quaint matrix]

the sanity discount is on the 2nd

[unreal light]

Haha

[quaint matrix]

i though my sanity from event gonna last

guess i'll have to use it

[unreal light]

And what are the high-effort meals that you cook like 10 times per year during good family meetings or national holidays, as a tradition

[twilit quail]

it depends entirely on the region

my dad's family from sw coastal region would make a bunch of delicate soups, steamed seafood, wild produce etc

[drifting berry]

Never though these were going to be so common

[twilit quail]

my mother's side in northeast would have like

big barbecue

stews

etc

[frozen tide]

not as common without bp

[drifting berry]

yeah, I though it was less from bp