theorycrafting

[summer flower]

chen subdps

endmin damage per screenshot

and perlica support

[stable inlet]

For 5+5 ult spam, I tested with ~180% and 184% ult gain (couldn't get exactly 182.8)
1EBS + 1CS + 1akekuri skill is just shy of ult charge for tidefall/hot work gloves/redeemer/redeemer
But I guess it's not a huge deal since you can still do 1EBS + 1CS + 2 skills within the 10s window before ult CD ends
Unfortunate that tidefall/xiranite gloves/redeemer/lynx slab 1EBS + 1CS + 2skills is just shy of full ult charge
Speaking of ult CD, the current rotation has the first ult ending at ~25s but ulting again at ~28s but there's a 10s CD for that

[mental wyvern]

I was right being rossi as nature!!!!!!

HEAT PHYSICAL BELIEVERS! GOODBYE!

[gritty olive]

yeah thats one of our uhm oversights

back then it was calced with 150 toughness, so there were two finishers in a full rot to give you back 100 energy
then we removed them for 300 toughness, the rotations didnt line up properly, we removed one skills, and alas

[stable inlet]

Ahh I see 😅

[gritty olive]

do you want us to give the benefit of the doubt

since youre this privy, can you also try for a gilberta laev akekuri wulfgard rotation?

since im still about it

[ancient drift]

What am I missing… I did the same rotation with and without this 25% dmg buff, why it doesn’t give me 25% more dmg…

My team, LR - Xaihi - Gilb - Ardel

This is the item I’m using..

[craggy pond]

because it doesn't work like that, dmg% from kunst is added additively to the dmg% multiplier you already have

it's not a separate one

[gritty olive]

dmg% is additive to all other dmg buffs

25% dmg to already existing 60% dmg will rest to total 85% dmg bonus

[ancient drift]

I see

The best buff is the 27% dmg one?

[craggy pond]

ginseng or jakub

most do ginseng

[gritty olive]

do the flat attack ones

because the flat attack will be multiplied by attribute bonuses

[craggy pond]

jakub can give you an edge in certain cases but it doesn't have crit rate

so ginseng is the best one in most cases

[gritty olive]

like if you have 300% more attack from main and sub attributes, the 100 flat attack buff will give you like, 400 more final attack

thats pretty big

[ancient drift]

On this flat attack one I should see this 384k going to?

[craggy pond]

we don't know unless we have your atk breakdown

[gritty olive]

can you show me your atk by components?

[craggy pond]

it's not a fixed increase

[ancient drift]

I will test it.. nvm

Sure

[gritty olive]

@craggy pond idk how much atk ginseng gives

[craggy pond]

180

[gritty olive]

coolsoes

[ancient drift]

LR

[gritty olive]

breakdown the attack

[craggy pond]

the breakdown on your atk

[gritty olive]

just tap attack

[ancient drift]

Ok

[gritty olive]

youre gonna get like 9%

more damage

[craggy pond]

444k

[gritty olive]

15% rather

[bronze plume]

whats lets game it out doing bro

[gritty olive]

384 * 1.15 = 443k ish

[ancient drift]

So crit would be something around 666k

[gritty olive]

yes

[ancient drift]

Ok my xaihi has no crown and neither my ardelia…

So with that I could get even better increase, enough to one shot the boss with combo+ult if I get those crits right?

[craggy pond]

well rhodagn has 2.2m, you can do the math on your own if you know the numbers

cuz it also depends on your other stuffs

hard to tell

[ancient drift]

I just saw the 15seg video of the guy killing Rhodagn with LR P0 and the guy did it.. So probably..

Yep, my xaihi, ardelia and Gilb all with best weapon P1 with last attribute essence 4/4, so I think is possible..

[peak void]

Gaming it out clearly

[ancient drift]

Thanks for clarifying guys, helped a lot…

[edgy crater]

mastery lol

also check xaihi stat

[ancient drift]

My LR P1 run - 1:33seg ish on Ballista & Axe - Agony Mode.

https://youtu.be/q7R0SJBN_A4?si=WcCeuwwL32gcttDu

Team: LR - Xaihi - Gilb - Ardel

Second part a bit messy… Still thinking on how to improve it..

[stable inlet]

Anything other than Laeva/Ake/Wulf/Ardelia is beyond me 😅 but I just tried a few runs with my level 40 Gil
My thoughts are that Gil doesn't make sense for ult spam builds since your damage is from the ult N5 over the entire 15s+ ult duration
Similarly, Lynx lowers the EBS spikes but increases the batk so Gil is suboptimal
For Tidefall with Gil, took me 45s to get the first ult charge
Don't really know the optimal rotation, but mine was Ake BS -> Wulf CS -> N5 -> Ake BS -> Ake BS -> N5 -> EBS -> CS -> Gil CS -> Ake BS -> Wulf CS -> Ake BS -> N5 -> EBS -> ult, didn't bother with anything afterward
With Ardelia, I get Ardelia CS -> corrosion -> combustion -> CS = 1 flame stack and can skip Ake BS == 1SP bar
For two EBS, I save 2SP bars and can get initial ult charge in 35s
Even if she can apply susceptibility during ult EBS, it's probably not really worth it since rotations are way slower/SP hungry and you also need to be mindful of vuln stacks

[gritty olive]

just on normal HW situations

• umbraltorch

[ancient drift]

This is my Gilb rotation on Rhodagn.

Laev - Wulf - Ake - Gilb - 1:15seg:
https://youtu.be/0sXksal020g?si=rkHgsLJbDB-NFnXy

[thorny frigate]

It is normal that my LR hit 30k (in the ultimate's last hit) without any buff? What may i missing?

[gritty olive]

im assuming umbral monument scenarios

[ancient drift]

The only thing wrong here was on the second rotation I should’ve hold Gilb combo skill for the later combo

[gritty olive]

so thats probably not a good measure

[snow bone]

Best gears for last rite?

[ancient drift]

Idk, on umbral monument it feels really straightforward.. Using Gilb BS > Ake BS > Wulf CS > N5 > Laev CS > Gilb CS…

Wait a bit for laev CS cooldown, then use her BS and repeat

[noble tapir]

Like 1000 attack and masteries compared to all those videos you see online.

[ancient drift]

But u will start with 1+ stack, so it’s faster to get ur ult and just do ur thing… On ballista & axe Ardelia is better

[green acorn]

also Endfield is a game of buffs and multipliers, base values will always seem fairly mediocre 😅

[ancient drift]

Are u using ur ultimate after ur combo skill?

[snow bone]

What's a good armor for last rite

Frontiers armor t1? Or bonekrusha poncho

[ancient drift]

I’m using Frontier - ult dmg%, u can check pinned post for more info

[edgy crater]

aether/frontier

[summer flower]

Only 4k damage?

my ember has more i think

without attack% constantly active on weapon

[thorny frigate]

Not for the test but usually yes

[thorny frigate]

I didnt saw that piece, i did the change and the dmaage increased like 8% ❤️

[potent hornet]

keep in mind

Xaihis battle skill only gives arts amp if you are at full health when it goes off the 2nd time

if you have taken a hit you won't get the amp

ignore the 2nd time, any time the heal goes off it checks for full health to give the amp

[west moon]

What is bro cooking

Saw this on reddit

[edgy crater]

[safe nymph]

is it possible to trim all bosses with lae

or would i neeed to build up another dps like last right

[modest thorn]

every boss is trimmable with everything

[icy remnant]

Yes it’s possible
You don’t even need her signature

[icy remnant]

Solo catcher trim Marble I’m waiting

[modest thorn]

how long does it take him to solo the tentacles

[icy remnant]

5mins?

[modest thorn]

oh thats light

[safe nymph]

bruh the tri is giving me the most problems

[modest thorn]

also whats the rotation for wulf's flame afflictions?

[icy remnant]

Huh

For Laev?

[modest thorn]

uhhh i think in general but yeah specifically for laev

i remember ppl saying he can apply like 4 or smth or is it just 3

[icy remnant]

It’s 3

4th stack is from Laev combo skill w Ardelia

[modest thorn]

oh gotcha

[icy remnant]

Or right that

His Ult

Applies combustion

So Laev can combo

[modest thorn]

also how do ppl usually play around gilb's nature affliction

[icy remnant]

So technically it’s 4 stacks for Laev

[modest thorn]

gotcha

[heady pine]

P5 wulfgard

[short dagger]

Sig vs p0 BP weapon difference can be really felt tho during tentacle phase

Since BP weapon doesnt buff NAs as much as Sig, u destroy the tentacles much slower with attacks during ult using BP weapon altho theoretically overall dmg might be similar

[ancient drift]

I normally ult with Gilb right before my Empowered BS on Laev Ult, since I already have all 4 stacks, Gilb nature affliction is not an issue…

[modest thorn]

does gilb ever use delivery guaranteed with laevatain?

[bold rose]

how does Laev rotation work with Gilb instead of Arde

[bold rose]

she does
it's 50/50 with P5 stanza
you can have gilb be a legit subdps with her sig instead of just being a laev buffer

[torn pilot]

im curious if you guys think endmin or pan is better for phys teams/why

i know that theyre both good and its kindof nuanced but i wanna see the discussion on the topic

[compact bridge]

Which gilberta skills are best to m3?

[rare zodiac]

@stable inlet i have changed the rotation while considering your insight, could you recheck it to see if there is any other changes need to be made

[tight haven]

fucking finally

i hate artificing. i hate artificing. i hate artificing.

[frozen tide]

[chilly bolt]

Should i increase my stanza to p1 or keep at least 2 of them

[night jackal]

Has there been any leaked info on Rossi? I heard somewhere that she will pretty much replace wulfgard in Laev teams

[tight haven]

why would you keep two?

[valid zealot]

But yeah no.

Even if there was we wouldn't discuss it here.

[dry kindle]

I mean you can

You just won't live after it

[valid zealot]

Poison is drinkable once.

Where ears

[chilly bolt]

Oh idk why i thought it would stack, me dum dum

[dawn patrol]

i'm kinda close to full artificing my hot work 💔

[tight haven]

yeah no they dont stack

[torn pilot]

what are endmins skill-mastery priorities?

is it worth mastering all of them?

[heady pine]

ult > combo > basic atk > battle skill

would only m3 first 3

[valid zealot]

Combo first.

Cooldown is big.

[torn pilot]

bruh i maxed the battle skill first

my dumbass was all like "ooh crush good monke"

[valid zealot]

[heady pine]

[torn pilot]

welp guess im full mastering endmin

[heady pine]

If it scaled the crush it would be great

[night jackal]

What there a law against talking about leaks or something?

[valid zealot]

People are against TOS breaking in the official discord server.
Surprise surprise.

[night jackal]

Well look at that there is a law.

[night jackal]

I'm sorry officer

[valid zealot]

That'll be $30000.

[night jackal]

Do you take Buck As?

[valid zealot]

No u, peasant.

[open hare]

Buck buck

Priestess glaze

[lost void]

Can Ember solo 90 end game stages?

[lost void]

Hmmm define leak? How about if a game was already been released 20 years ago and you're just after retro gaming?

[modest thorn]

if an enemy has a nature infliction and wulfgard applies flame affliction does clannibal proc?

[dry kindle]

No

[dawn patrol]

60 something second rhod

[dry mason]

[outer ermine]

[valid zealot]

[balmy raft]

No, Wulfgard has to consume with his battle skill, not apply

late response but yea

[unreal light]

There have been some leaks yesterday, but nothing confirms said leaks are not a psyop with made up fanfics

[stable inlet]

The 5+5 ult spam looks good to me, I have boomer hands so kinda hard for me to replicate but I'm running 184.3% ult gen here
One thing to note is that during ult, animation cancelling is probably more worthwhile now compared to the other builds since batk contributes significant damage. We can cancel N3 and squeeze in 4-5 N5s for more flame stacks and SP (though we do overcap on both)

[outer ermine]

looong

[rich linden]

did they patch perma flight yet

[bold rose]

so it's basically either get him to proc off his ult or sth like gilb combo into laev combo

[icy remnant]

It can be felt yep
But in the end you’ll still clear it with a trim

[icy remnant]

Panda is technically better right now especially if you have dupes

Endmin has way more potential to get better though and that’s why I prefer them

Difference is minimal anyways and if one is gonna scale better long term I see no reason to just choose that

[wind nebula]

And you rolled/picked Exemplar. Anyone can drop a dollar and get grand vision

[icy remnant]

Yea Grand Vision is a big reason

And even if you eventually drop Endmin the Grand Vision is also good on Chen anyways

Or whichever future physical crush sword unit

[torn pilot]

yeah i could see that

endmin reads super good

new potentials could make a big difference with even small bonuses

[remote fern]

Is Gilberta best in slot for her team with that gear set?

[gritty olive]

Im not gojng to calculate that

Im already losing my hair out calcukating angelina on a basic team

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1469718573550145659/1473576333052346409/image0.jpg?ex=6996b667&is=699564e7&hm=c9261249d40227344a5be22110e8fdb0dc56310b09ac46173fee9ad72b19f0aa& fixed now inthink

[gritty olive]

@tight haven pookiw

Ultspam is whale
-Raizer

[craggy pond]

can you try mi instead of 1 slab for p4 regular

i think on avg it yields way more dmg

[gritty olive]

idt it would result in something

[craggy pond]

it's statistically her best dps set

but it's rng, and kinda locked behind p4 since no ult charge

[unreal light]

It is not, huh

dead passive

[rare zodiac]

The MI kit with Int agi crit?

[craggy pond]

i mean like switch from hot works to mi entirely

the set effect itself

[drifting quest]

?

[rare zodiac]

Is ass

[drifting quest]

Lmao

First thing I see opening TC

[craggy pond]

how would it be really, its main disadvantage to me is just the rng aspect

[gritty olive]

we have ass crit scaling atm

idk how much cr we get

but like assuming we get like 50 cr, the average crit multiplier would be (1 + 0.5 * 0.5) = 1.25, from crit mult alone

[rare zodiac]

https://youtu.be/wzhZpyfLzPo?si=RdctCYERU1xKX9al

[unreal light]

around 50

[rare zodiac]

Some one had try it

It is ass

[dry kindle]

Average crit mentioned

[rare zodiac]

Like unfathomable ass

[dry kindle]

Kill this user

[unreal light]

the boss is not defeated tho

[gritty olive]

[gritty olive]

but ginseng

[craggy pond]

i mean not like a full crit build but maybe a hybrid with utilizing mi set effect

that's why i asked him to try it in his calc because barely anyone has actual numbers on it

[unreal light]

without ginseng stew, second build has 3379 atk

if one applies ginseng stew to the first build, said surtr will have 5851 atk

it's unequal comparison lmao

[rare zodiac]

Just to show how ass crit is

[craggy pond]

iana mentioned it themselves the other day that it's a viable build past p4 so that's why i'm wondering

[unreal light]

at this point, one may even remove a sword and use 1lvl stick

[gritty olive]

yeah

[dry kindle]

[gritty olive]

let me finish the gilb calc at least

[craggy pond]

i'm imagining a build with double mi push knife, mi security overalls, and hot works gloves

stacking crit just sound dumb

we're trying to get the set effect not the crit really since crit is ass

[rare zodiac]

You loss so much raw stat that it doesn’t even worth it

[unreal light]

surts needs STR

mi provides AGI and WILL

[rare zodiac]

Int/str

MI do provide some int, but not enough

[drifting quest]

Assuming near infinite timelining yes

[dry kindle]

Yeah

Just hit enough to reach theoretical average

[unreal light]

It costs one 1.5k atk

[dry kindle]

Its that simple

[drifting quest]

It does not compete in realistic cases

[dry kindle]

Where's my p5 wulf

[drifting quest]

I stole him

Im like p8 now

[dry kindle]

Bruh

[craggy pond]

does it, iirc the kit provides some int and the armor provides the same amount

[rare zodiac]

So you completely threw str out of the equation heh?

[gritty olive]

reason why hotwork armor is so ass is that it doesnt have proper int scaling

the only int + str armor is tidefall

[unreal light]

3.3k vs 4.9k atk comparison

[rare zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-9403556598434283568

Gain 25% atk to loss 50% atk

[gritty olive]

fortunatelt

[unreal light]

it will be stronger only if you have 100cr

[drifting quest]

Multiplicative vs additive fwiw

It doesnt save mi sec

[rare zodiac]

Yeah but the loss is too high for it to matter

[craggy pond]

the build in that video is not the build i'm referring tbh, that's a full crit build

[drifting quest]

But important to know

[lost void]

Is Laevatain mandatory for pyro? Any working team w/o her?

[drifting quest]

Working yes
Good no

[unreal light]

we don't have the good measurement tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461535111223967764/1468145696912838717/GIF_20260203_134514_475.gif

[craggy pond]

i can imagine that it doesn't work in practical because it requires time to ramp up but that's why i wondered in the first place

[twilit quail]

I almost wanted to make the set but Im not unwell enough for that

[craggy pond]

i'm trying to find how practical it actually is

[lost void]

She's the only one who consumes pyro stacks right?

[drifting quest]

Yes

[dry kindle]

No

[drifting quest]

[twilit quail]

youre supposed to play wulf antal ake and just rip a normal BS to stack the crit

[dry kindle]

Reactions

[drifting quest]

My favourite unit is reactions

[rich linden]

thats actually not bad

[drifting quest]

So true

[rare zodiac]

The crit?

[rich linden]

yea

[dry kindle]

[rare zodiac]

Nah is so bad i am having hangovers over again

[rich linden]

the 10-15% difference

[lost void]

Isn't reaction suppose to be different element?

[rich linden]

it just needs decent support

[craggy pond]

well ig that would make the most sense since it's like 6 consecutive hits

[rich linden]

surely nothing a limited 6* operator can't fix

[drifting quest]

Laev is the only unit who directly consumes heat infliction

Any unit who applies a different infliction can cause them to react

[craggy pond]

i think the full crit build is ass btw, which is why i specifically mentioned those pieces which buff dmg% instead

[unreal light]

first one uses +600 atk from food

second one does not use the same food to gain +900 atk

[lost void]

Well the only 6 star heat is Ember but she's more of physical though..

[frozen tide]

Ember has mixed heat dmg just so she wouldn't benefit from phys team stacking phys dmg bonuses potentially

She doesn't have infliction

[drifting quest]

This is just even worse

Because you dont have even uptime on set bonus as a result

[lost void]

What's the highest crit damage right now?

can it reach 300%+?

[rare zodiac]

You can’t save MI set, it just not good overall

[frozen tide]

It would just be yvonne

Lemme see

[drifting quest]

Like 180%

[dry kindle]

Why has no one said anything

[drifting quest]

I said something

[dry kindle]

[drifting quest]

Like yesterday

[mystic halo]

I mean we say this but there is also functionally only one hot work user rn

it's just that we make fun of crit because it's crit

[dry kindle]

When's the next one smhsmhsmh

[craggy pond]

in my mind the best balance would be with enough crit rate to just barely keep the set effect up

but it's purely theoretical since rng doesn't work that way

[dry kindle]

FML i only have 4.2k arsenal

[rare zodiac]

230% crit on Yvonne when all the planet line up

[lost void]

Is this everything max? Level, weap, potential, etc?

[dry mason]

[rare zodiac]

If pot 3 then 250%

[frozen tide]

Unless I'm missing a source

P5 Yvonne is 200

50 base

60 from ult

60 from p3+talent

30 from p5

[drifting quest]

Like 3 more weeks

[rare zodiac]

Oh i forgot that it x2 when solidified

[open hare]

Guess what

[rare zodiac]

What?

[open hare]

Its

[rich linden]

i have 500 arsenal tickets

[open hare]

Shhhh.... give me them....

Give me those tickets...

[dry kindle]

Bleh

[unreal light]

when umbral second part comes out

[open hare]

When your dad comes back

https://tenor.com/view/oops-gif-10031223162004539162

[rare zodiac]

Those tearful eyes just make me

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/dale-walking-dead-i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-gif-3136629546574604277

[dry kindle]

Dps? Nah rhodagn kills per second

[dry mason]

[errant urchin]

Am I coping or I really think among all units we currently have on banner only Gilberta is the most future proof unit

[drifting quest]

Gilb is far from future proof

[errant urchin]

With her buffs and debuff I think she is the only unit I can see I might use later

[drifting quest]

Even if you consider none to be she isn't close to the most future proof

Non invasive generics like Ardelia, Akekuri, etc have more potential to remain by comparison

Wider net means more chance after all

[errant urchin]

ardelia might stay especially for physical but gilberta she might be not as good now but she will have place later

tbh he feels like venti or kazuha

[neat snow]

[drifting quest]

Assumes grouping has value

[errant urchin]

the current content says yes it does tho

[drifting quest]

Which isnt a guarantee since it wasnt all that amazing in umbral

Too SP inefficient compared to some future grouper who does it via combo or ult

[errant urchin]

we already know more future grouper?

[drifting quest]

No

There's no (real and/or credible) leaks for akef

[errant urchin]

I dont think they will give grouping that free

[rare zodiac]

Hard to say

[neat snow]

[dry kindle]

wdym the nier collab in 1.5 isnt real

[rare zodiac]

Like Venti is op op for a version and then be obsolete the next

[errant urchin]

they had to put enemies

[drifting quest]

We are 4 days off the next umbral

[errant urchin]

that cant be grouped

[drifting quest]

Easy to wait and see

[errant urchin]

just to stop him

[next helm]

That was cause of freeze +venti

No interaction

[drifting quest]

Morgana moment

One comp killing 2 separate styles of gameplay

[errant urchin]

so I rest my case and Pulling for gilberta

[elfin smelt]

from what I know we only have the grouping thing from 6 stars rn

[gritty olive]

Morganing

[next helm]

Imagine umbral in 5 years

[drifting quest]

Pull her if you want

[next helm]

Being like current abyss

[drifting quest]

Just know she isnt even remotely close to truly future proof

[next helm]

[gritty olive]

No its fine here

Since ultimates here dont regen like genshin

[next helm]

2 sides

Shill content

For 1 team

[gritty olive]

7 sides 4 teams

[elfin smelt]

until they decide to do something with element resistance 1 team is shilling yea

[errant urchin]

Physical team my beloved

[next helm]

Enemy with 2 health bars

[gritty olive]

Enemy with hit count

[next helm]

1 health bar takes 3x damage from shilled team

[gritty olive]

IW enemies in endfield

[next helm]

Ivant

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

Hitcount shields right when they introduce dot units

[next helm]

3 times damage

It's either trivial or almost impossible

I fucking hate thta

[gritty olive]

Dot but 0.33s basis instead of 1s

[errant urchin]

Man dot units on a 3d game

err non turn based

[drifting quest]

Clueful

[errant urchin]

only good dot is HP% Based

it may take 100s but you are guaranteed to kill it

[next helm]

Enemy that you can hit when their hp is 0

Resets when they get their hp back

Shilled team hits hp directly

[drifting quest]

Id rather have ways to interact with it

[drifting quest]

Nihilus shell

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[next helm]

You have to reduce their max hp

Can only do that when their hp is 0

[gritty olive]

Dot when the enemies are ceramic

[next helm]

Normal team has to kill them 3x over

[mellow cave]

Is this the right channel to ask what weapon should I use on my DPS arclight

[mellow cave]

[drifting quest]

Those who know

[drifting quest]

Technically no technically yes

[mellow cave]

Is the no because arclight isn't the dps

[dry mason]

you get it fast

[drifting quest]

Yada yada arclight dps is bad
Yada yada even for arclight dps team dps wins more on thermite

If you really insist its probably like wnn

[jagged tiger]

How much dmg buff is the electric status

[next helm]

12-24%

• arts intensity

[jagged tiger]

I see

So basically for max debuff perlica for the 1 million dmg nuke last rite

You want max intensity

[dry mason]

[hollow wyvern]

Anyone know if p1 Yvonne basically speeds up the combo hits to fit the 2 extra in same time, or if it extends duration of combo

[dry mason]

LOL you're here

[hollow wyvern]

[dry mason]

Welcome to Endfield

🎑

[drifting quest]

Should extend it

Double check with someone who owns p1 I guess

[frozen tide]

a whel i know has p5 laev and p4 gilb without a single yvonne copy

insane luck

[neat snow]

I have p5 Laev and p5 gilb with only one Yvonne

[frozen tide]

thats rly good

unless you lost a lot of 50 50 to standard chars

[neat snow]

The gilb was essentially free. I got her p4 just pulling on Laev banner and then got her with just a couple free pulls in her own banner

[outer ermine]

209 arts int noice

[heady shale]

Hmm, does Boss HP Scale on Team Member count or something? Do we happen to know that by any chance?

[drifting quest]

No

[heady shale]

So with all those Boss Trimmed Solo Char clears we see lately is just people flexing on our my skill issue then? Ouch

[drifting quest]

HP is per essentially level, plus any extra modifiers which idt exist right now

[heady shale]

yeah idk guess i am bricked then lol

[summer flower]

What? But last Rite is ice

[jagged tiger]

Read the electric status description

[warm galleon]

Speaking of Perlica+LR (or Yvonne) Stanza dupe is on shop!

[unreal light]

electrification debuffs enemy for incoming arts damage

(everything non-physic)

[echo cove]

Perlica is that good huh

[unreal light]

she also lays eggs for breakfast

[warm galleon]

Also her lv 9 ult is 800% modifier with her 30% dmg passive vs stagger and p5's crit rate bonus

And yes go get your Stanza dupe on shop for today.

[summer flower]

But don't we have enough ice extra damage already avaible?

[warm galleon]

Keep stacking it

[summer flower]

So what Duo set-ups you know about?

Cause perlica + avyenna works

So i could get second team if i had Duo for other half of team

[jagged tiger]

For now, yes

She is after all the best girl

||she should work more on bed tbh||

[lost void]

How fast can ulti be up? Can it already reach 10 seconds or even 5?

[quaint matrix]

wow i pulled 260/300 from the ticket

classique

[glacial jackal]

No lr is best

.bestgirl ?

[summer flower]

What ticket?

I hear about tickets

[wise field]

what if perlica is the mother of endmin?

[summer flower]

Ohh nvm i see ticket

[glacial jackal]

Momy

[quaint matrix]

scam ticket

i won't cry abt 40 oroberries lost

but it's funny

first one and got minimal

le classique

[peak void]

do anyone know if i should ult dmg or arts intensity gloves for endmin with sig

[icy remnant]

It’s 20

Average is 280 not 300

[peak void]

@green acorn how about u check the pins

theres no clear winner on this sheet

[icy remnant]

Chen?

[green acorn]

the gloves listed are what they rec, or the ult dmg hands are also good, the info is right there?

[peak void]

i come here for explanation, not sheet parrots

theres clearly a nuance here that im trying to know and pointing the pins is not sufficient

[icy remnant]

Oh Endmin

Arts intensity is the obvious choice

[peak void]

and somehow i doubt it with arts int already being in endmin sig

[lost raft]

What should be better for Chen, Aspirant P2 or Sundering P1?

[peak void]

sundering

[lost raft]

mind elaborating pls?

[peak void]

smth abt the the weapon effect just being better

iirc their stats are the same tho

[lost raft]

Ultimate DMG and Physical DMG vs ATK stick

ATK > DMG?

[peak void]

not much sources of atk in the game yes

[gritty olive]

More like

What qyurri said but

The main and sub attrivute atk buff is another atk modifier

So like you have two atk modifiers

[peak void]

wait what

[gritty olive]

Final atk = (base* (1+atk%) + flat atk) * (1 +atk% from attributes)

[peak void]

so like

agility + combative

the combative is just once right

or thats twice

[peak void]

btw @gritty olive do u kno

dt iana and the other guy really finished

[lost raft]

just to be sure I understand this:

This means that when Lifted is applied, the wielder gains a buff (max 3 stacks) and once the Ultimate is used, said ultimate is enhanced too, no?

is not 30 seconds AFTER using Ultimate

(im just trying to understand wording)

[rare zodiac]

That about right

[cinder oxide]

I swear my biggest bottle neck in this game is not reset mats or tcreds

It’s low level protodiscs

I never get any from anywhere and getting to E2 costs so many of them

Lvl mats I can trust Dijiang to but I nvr get protodisks man

I’ve had to dump a good amount of AIC quota to get them without burning sanity

Super annoying

[summer flower]

Its probably moment lift gets applied

Still don't know if skills calculate for each hit or they store stats

[cinder oxide]

Aspirant is so shite wdym I only get x2 dmg on ult alone after using combo and battle skill 3 times AND the buff gets diluted if I have phys dmg boost on gear or wp

At max nodes too

[summer flower]

Would be broken if avenna skill and ulti where reversed and she were phys

[cinder oxide]

That’s a lot of maybes

Meanwhile the Chad sundered steel giving +42% atk boost for literally anything chen does

Casually maxing its stacks with 1 sp

[rare zodiac]

But it so damn ugly

[frozen tide]

lmao

rapid ascent pull then

if you dislike how dogshit aspirant is and dislike how dogshit sundering looks

[cinder oxide]

Literally me

[frozen tide]

only option

if using those 2 arent in question

[cinder oxide]

The only bad thing about sundering stats is that its 2nd skill is phys dmg boost

Would genuinely be busted if it was atk boost

[frozen tide]

it already is pretty busted

[cinder oxide]

True true

[frozen tide]

5 star weapon is lower output than 6 stars by default

and yet sunderings output is perfectly catered towards the most needed stat

not even that bad it has phys second line

cause with thermite 2 stack

and full sundering stack

atk percent is getting comparably saturated

[cinder oxide]

Yeah I’m still going full in for Ascent though since it’ll scale harder with every lost 25/75 on wp banners it’s on

May take time but it’s for the drip

[frozen tide]

ascent is heavily dependant on boss timeline

but when it lines up

its rly good

[cinder oxide]

Honestly even without boss timeline the buff to stg value is alr really good

But having ult go during staggered is huge

Instantly more dmg than aspirant

[frozen tide]

buff to stagger value?

[cinder oxide]

Oh wait

[twilit quail]

It's fun to speculate on whether things being as strong/weak as they are are intended or not

[cinder oxide]

Whoops mb read it wrong

Still incredible base buffs compared to aspirant

If it buffed combo dmg it would be so damn worth

[frozen tide]

i am very confused by this sentence

[twilit quail]

like

[rare zodiac]

Mean it’s fun to debate whether they intend to do that or not?did they fuk up

[twilit quail]

did they intend for stanza to be this defining

to literally

[frozen tide]

i see

[twilit quail]

be beating sig ass

did they intend for sundering to be this good

[frozen tide]

maybe

probably not

[twilit quail]

I cant wait to see what the weapon ecosystem is going to look like in a year

[frozen tide]

its just atk percent

[kindred sorrel]

did they intend for thermite to be that good

[twilit quail]

it's gonna be really funny

[kindred sorrel]

basically all the atk% buff support weapons are strong af

[twilit quail]

if they just dont make good weapons that arent sigs anymore

[rare zodiac]

Years later and Stanza still at the top of the food chain like Bennett

[cinder oxide]

Atk boost and flat atk not being on gear defines the entire meta

[twilit quail]

in this economy

[kindred sorrel]

once we get level 80/90 gear, weapon meta might shift quite a bit

so who knows

[frozen tide]

sundered prince potential man

56 atk percent at p5

trust

[twilit quail]

after giving 50% atk to everyone with gear

[edgy crater]

crit gear still missing too

[rare zodiac]

If we have lv80/90 gear

[twilit quail]

never rest can finally be even with thermite

[cinder oxide]

I’m honestly sure atk% and flat atk gear shouldn’t exist outside of set bonus

It makes teambuilding interesting

[frozen tide]

if that happens atleast 5 star weaps with atk percent wont be so dominant

[kindred sorrel]

we probably will

[cinder oxide]

When we have more options than the obvious

[frozen tide]

they will just be economic options

[kindred sorrel]

theres definitely going to be new gear when we get new regions

[frozen tide]

i think thermite is always gonna be good

6 star output with easy proc condition

[rare zodiac]

More gear? Absolutely, higher lv gear? Questionable

[frozen tide]

id like to think they are eventually gonna introduce higher lvl gear

might take a while

[kindred sorrel]

i mean, no reason to stay at level 70 gear

when character level cap is 90

[twilit quail]

my read has always been that we're gonna get to wear one piece of red only for a while

whenever it comes

[frozen tide]

lvl 93 ascension

lets you wear 1 red gear

2 regions later lvl 96 ascension

2 red gear

last reguin lvl 100 ascension

3 red gear

[twilit quail]

we desperately need more sets though

[rare zodiac]

Yeah it’s so limited right now

[frozen tide]

we will def get more

not even entirety of wuling is out yet

[rare zodiac]

Preferably with some weirdass effect

Rather than just dmg% up

[twilit quail]

fluorite prosthetic

[frozen tide]

not even a lot of dmg percent set rn

[twilit quail]

to help with her knees

[frozen tide]

fluos btk anim is so dogshit

[distant python]

I want a set where you double the rate of infliction stacks

[rare zodiac]

Make gear set that halve hp and double main attribute

[cinder oxide]

Never Rest will likely nvr outperform therm irl cos its harder to get dupes for it

[distant python]

Make fluorite good

[cinder oxide]

Broken

[frozen tide]

that would be so unbelivably broken

maybe once every 20 sec activation or sum

[cinder oxide]

I’d take 90% atk nerf for double attri

[distant python]

I think it would open more team building options for mixing infliction stacks for constant 4 stack electrification and corrosion or something

[edgy crater]

this one fun lol, huskar type

[rare zodiac]

Increases cd and increases base dmg/reduce cd but reduces dmg

[distant python]

Need sets based around infliction stacking for sure

The closest you get is frontiers reducing combo skill cd

[rare zodiac]

Some wacky shit like that

[distant python]

Can we get a combo skill cd reduction substat pls

[cinder oxide]

Double attri would make chen gen 4 stacks with 100sp are yall trying to obliterate game balance

[cinder oxide]

One set bonus has it

[distant python]

You could always lock it to cooldowns or certain buffing elemental types

[rare zodiac]

Imo 4 stack should be a luxury that difficult to reach

[cinder oxide]

I’d accept once per battle double attri cos p5 da pan could hit 4 stack with one swing lmao

[summer flower]

?

[unreal light]

it really depends on the amount of atk you gain

and the amount of phys

for chen with sundering, never rest will be stronger

and we still don't know what gear stats we'll be hunting for at gear lvl 90

[distant python]

Maybe make it only proc on battle skill, raised the value of characters that only inflict on battle skill, less reliance and value on combo inflictions

[rare zodiac]

Go in, drop a question mark, leave without elaborating 🔥

[cinder oxide]

As it is NR stacks phys dmg which is so much more accessible that it makes the alt not worth man

[rare zodiac]

Still too cheap

[summer flower]

Its to last message

[jagged tiger]

Max out my Akekuri?

[cinder oxide]

Once a battle like I said

[unreal light]

once again, it does depends on how accessible is atk at your character

[distant python]

Give it lower stats, infliction support should be a true role with dedicated sets for it

[summer flower]

How da pan p5 does 4 stacks in one hit?

[rare zodiac]

Best i can give you is Chen and Wulf

[unreal light]

if you run default sundering chen, you have phenomenal amount of atk

[rare zodiac]

They are at a good state

[distant python]

Fluorite

[unreal light]

which makes thermite buff weaker, and never rest buff stronger

[distant python]

Fluorite should be bis rn for stacking cryo for LR, but she's not, and this is disappointing to me

[jagged tiger]

Also what 5* sword to use on pogger

[distant python]

Thermite

[unreal light]

fortmaker

[cinder oxide]

Fortmaker

[distant python]

Oh 5*

[jagged tiger]

Mfw perlica is better than her in the cryo team

[cinder oxide]

Arts intensity and ult charge on a sword is huge

[distant python]

I'm too brain rotted from other gacha games

[jagged tiger]

I regret

[unreal light]

and vice versa, never rest buff is weaker for endmin, as Grand Vision grants up to +100,8% phys

[jagged tiger]

Picking sundered prince in the first weapon box

[cinder oxide]

Lmao

[distant python]

I do not

[jagged tiger]

I got last rite early and though i'm not gonna get her signature weapons

I did

[distant python]

Wait

[rare zodiac]

She is, for stacking, just that they rather have buffer than more stack

[distant python]

You picked sundered for last rite?

[cinder oxide]

New BP when btw is it by patch or by month

[distant python]

Are you perhaps a bit silly

[jagged tiger]

Idk

It's great sword

[rare zodiac]

Wait wrong reply

[distant python]

Sundered is ember weapon

[jagged tiger]

And she used great sword

[distant python]

LR without her Sig is pointless

[frozen tide]

sundered is better than lung atleast

[jagged tiger]

Oh well

[distant python]

Just give up

[jagged tiger]

Oh well

[frozen tide]

sundered also has potential for future units

[jagged tiger]

Now imma roll for gilberta weapon banner

Hoping i got the thermite off rate

[rare zodiac]

Sundered is nobody weapon

[distant python]

I just like it for ember

[jagged tiger]

[frozen tide]

sundered lr rly isnt that terrible

not ideal sure

[distant python]

I won't lie the crit rate is fake

[unreal light]

sundering mi fu incoming

haha

[jagged tiger]

Omg Xaihi

[distant python]

Until we get a crit support

[frozen tide]

hi

[unreal light]

or gear lvl 90 with crits

[jagged tiger]

Zhuang gonna be electric defender

[distant python]

We have m1

[jagged tiger]

With great sword

Mark my word

[frozen tide]

thatll be a dissapointment

[distant python]

M1 pieces have a lot of strength and will on them tbh, feels like they tried to make greatsword the crit class with pistols

[rare zodiac]

Crit is just ass as the stat provides so little and require so much fo now

[distant python]

But only Yvonne has true synergy with crit in her kit

[jagged tiger]

We should adopt warframe crit system

[frozen tide]

cdmg not being increasable by most characters is debilitating for crit rate building

[jagged tiger]

I want my character to have super red crit

[distant python]

Yeah but we have diminishing returns on many things

Instead of multiplicative

[frozen tide]

[rare zodiac]

Wut? We have the most multiplicative i ever seen in a gacha game

[frozen tide]

atk percent is extremely valuable and its still one of the most saturated multipliers

dmg bonus ofc being the most saturated by far

[distant python]

Warframe has stuff like firerate and many sources of crit rate for super crits

Or huge base damage amplifiers

[rare zodiac]

I think this much is enough fr

[frozen tide]

"base multiplier" has sub multipliers making it up

[lost raft]

JET is only good for avywenna no?

[cinder oxide]

Apparently lifeng has the fastest sp generation and stagger build speed when looking at pure auto atk without skills or dash cancels alone

He’s so held back by slow skills though

Shame

[distant python]

I mean

You only need to cast skill once at start

Then you can play lifeng

Swapping between characters if you really want to minmax

[frozen tide]

once youre in the btk sequence

changing chars is time loss

to get to fs

if you swap it should be after fs or after btk got fully cancelled anyhow by bs ult etc

[cinder oxide]

Combo also takes a while but tbf Link is gained almost immediately in cast

[distant python]

Yeah but at the start do 1 basic sequence with endmin or ember while lifeng skills, then swap to lifeng after you finish the chain

True the combo is a problem

I CBA to micro and swap characters that much

[frozen tide]

final strikes are essential for sp and triggers

there are timings you swap lifeng

he just isnt the default controlled

[distant python]

I use ember for finishers

Because M3 basic on her

[frozen tide]

lifeng is insane for finishers

due to the nature of his char having absurd atk

[distant python]

Yeah but my lifengs attack is cooked cause no 6 star

He's just an ult bot for me rn

[summer flower]

You sure?

That's true?

[cinder oxide]

My lifeng is too crippled cos of the ult charge I put on him screwing his atks

[summer flower]

Not one of 25 stagger in last hit?

[frozen tide]

the 25 stagger ones are greatsword

[cinder oxide]

He gets to that last hit faster than the 25vers apparently I’ll link the math post on reddit

[frozen tide]

idk how fast each weapon type sequence duration on avg is

[distant python]

However I have sundered and animation cancels on ember so

[frozen tide]

but i doubt greatsword is very fast

[distant python]

Ember better for me

[summer flower]

I know that ember Has less attacks than endmin before last one

[distant python]

Yeah but they are long animations

[summer flower]

Yea but talking about stagger, last hit is one that matters

[cinder oxide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/s/35u3nssLtl

[cinder oxide]

Yeah but getting to last hit faster is = to more stagger per unit time

[humble phoenix]

ember also has access to the 2hand sword extra stagger while you control her

[frozen tide]

doubt that sheet takes cancels into account

still good to look at

[summer flower]

End Axis... Is that avaible in non Chinese

[humble phoenix]

sundered prince*

[cinder oxide]

Yeah it doesn’t count cancels and more importantly it eyeballs sp gain cos we don’t have hard numbers for those

We don’t know how much sp each final hit gains per chara

[summer flower]

Yea i don't think its accurate

Its 25 vs (what's lifeleng stagger?)

[dry kindle]

endmin 20sp
wulfgard 18
arclight 17
perlica 15
chen 18
ember 28
xaihi 15
antal 15
avyw 19
gilb 16
lifeng 21
snowshine 25
laev basic 20
laev ult 22
yvonne 17
ardel 18
pogra 20
dapan 21
akekuri 19
last rite 30
catcher 25
estella 19
fluorite 15
alesh 19

[cinder oxide]

Damn where this from nice though

Dan Da Pan is depressing

[summer flower]

I wanna know stagger not sp

That's eyeballed

[distant python]

Stagger is in game

[summer flower]

Man, i don't have lifeng

[distant python]

Like directly mentioned

If you look at basic attack descriptions

[summer flower]

So 25vs19

0.76 ratio

[open hare]

Ruinanananana

Sup my boyos tc

Hatsune Miku is back in chat

With internet

https://tenor.com/view/jamiroquai-miku-virtual-insanity-slide-furniture-gif-7987079839278934990

[dry kindle]

\

[humble phoenix]

sequence in which the stagger happens is quite important

[summer flower]

Is it 3.16 and 4.427 ?

[frozen tide]

is this accounting canceling fs recovery with dash

[summer flower]

For time for both?

[dry kindle]

yes

[humble phoenix]

if u compare with ember ye

[open hare]

Damn

[dry kindle]

do it yourself

[frozen tide]

3.16 is nuts tho

[summer flower]

So 0.76 stagger for 0.71 time is that correct?

[frozen tide]

😭

[summer flower]

Does it cycle without gaps?

[cinder oxide]

Lifeng just gaps tf out of everyone if it wasn’t for BS and combo

I’m starting to think it was a thought out nerf

[frozen tide]

im messing around with ember

you can cancel fs before the hitbox is actually out

and it resets the sequence

without the fs ever actually procing

😭

i dont think thats normal?

[humble phoenix]

happens with everyone

[frozen tide]

normally it doesnt reset the full sequence

[humble phoenix]

i noticed on pog but only 3 times

[frozen tide]

atleast with the chars i have experience with

[cinder oxide]

I’ve nvr had it reset on Da Pan

[frozen tide]

it resets to the last sequence leading up to fs or the fs sequence itself

[summer flower]

Maybe it's reverse, he was too slow on skills

So they speed up his basics

[cinder oxide]

I could straight up have landed on the ground as Da Pan and still dash cancel my final

His Nvr fks up

[summer flower]

Okay, what's lifengs dmg multiplier/sec for basics?

[summer flower]

What are Red Dots there?

Also it doesnt look right

[cinder oxide]

Basic Attack Sequence 1 Multiplier: 55%
Basic Attack Sequence 2 Multiplier: 65%
Basic Attack Sequence 3 Multiplier: 79%
Basic Attack Sequence 4 Multiplier: 152%
Finisher ATK Multiplier: 900%
Dive ATK Multiplier: 180%

At lvl 12

[cinder oxide]

That’s the hits landing

[summer flower]

Okay

Ohh so two hits in finisher?

[frozen tide]

yeah no it seems like an ember only thing

wtf

[summer flower]

@frozen tide hit is in half of finisher sequence

[frozen tide]

what

[cinder oxide]

Ember once again showing how she’s the worst standard launch 6*

[frozen tide]

you can cancel fs with dash before actual hitbox is out

and it resets full sequence

with ember

[summer flower]

(55*2+65+79+152+900)/3.16

[humble phoenix]

keep in mind ember has sunder prince weapon

which brings quite bit of stagger boost

scaling with potentials

[cinder oxide]

According to the math reddit post he has #6 best basic atk dps

[frozen tide]

i doubt the reddit post takes individual char atk and dmg bonuses into account

prob just takes account btk multiplier itself

[summer flower]

413/sec

[cinder oxide]

That’s true it’s likely entirely on multiplier

[frozen tide]

lifeng has exceptionally high atk once built

[cinder oxide]

That just means he’s even stronger though

Legit hella nerfed by battle skill and combo skill

Could be the goat but now he’s just a bum

[summer flower]

Wait whar

I dont remember ember being shown seq 4 multiplier in game

[steel trench]

any tips for upgrading the weapon orb thing? do I just feed literally anything im not using or is there an efficiency guide like in artificing?

[open hare]

Joe

[cinder oxide]

Check pins in #help for essence per weapon and just save essences on that list. Dump the rest at your own discretion it doesn’t change anything

Also use that list to match essences so you don’t waste engraving when u could farm more types of essences from one spot

[frozen tide]

wait looking at help pin

i found a use for yvonne

shes a part of optimal dijiang setup

[cinder oxide]

Yeah her Dijiang skills are all in on growing

Only she has green only skills

[frozen tide]

shit might have to pull for her

[cinder oxide]

The next best shroom is da pan

[frozen tide]

cant let my dijiang go unoptimized

[cinder oxide]

I alr have optimal clue

[summer flower]

Yvonne redemption arc?

[frozen tide]

i never have optimal anything cause im farming friendship

[outer ermine]

smh just gift

[summer flower]

1/3 trust farm 2/3 for dijang skills

[cinder oxide]

Lmao yeah gift 1st layer everyday to everyone

[bitter cove]

based from the biggest ember shill, with cancel its 258frame, 60fps

[frozen tide]

some operators take wuling gift

its expensive af

[bitter cove]

4,3

s

[cinder oxide]

U gotta optimise them gifts

Honestly only about 5 doods have WL gifts as necessity

[outer ermine]

better than 120k for artificing

[cinder oxide]

I run out of puzzles a lot more

Like 4 people want puzzles bro

Brother it’s the exact same puzzle

U don’t need 15

[summer flower]

Then its 0.73 time for 0.76 stagger

[rare zodiac]

Sound extremely cool until i do mental cal and it land on 4 ish s

[frozen tide]

thats still very slow icl

[summer flower]

Still dude wins

Sundered math probably is in ember favour

Also yea that sounds slow

Also question, if sequences are done is there delay before next sequence

[distant python]

Not really, I buy out the cheap gifts and still have enough for all the cheap catalysts

[summer flower]

And was that cancel taking into account dodge time cost

[frozen tide]

i dont have 30 gifts to scarf down one operator for 20 percent

trynna get every one 100 percent

[bitter cove]

theres Hitstop yes

[summer flower]

Ohh how long hit stops between them two then?

[bitter cove]

but idk if his test with hitstop or not

coz the vid doesnt say and doesnt show the clip of the test
only table which is sux

[oak vigil]

Tbh I recommend just doing it with only gifts operator likes and only up to their green circle fills up

[cinder oxide]

Just do green circle and youll max the operator in 25 days

Or

[frozen tide]

which for some operators is exclusively wuling store bought ones

which is why i said its expensive

[cinder oxide]

Honestly I barely use the WL stuff unless I absolutely have to

[summer flower]

Just slap them in dijang

[cinder oxide]

Again only 5 absolutely need WL to 1/3 a bar

[summer flower]

Control room

Ohh wait

[cinder oxide]

Hell nah only regenners go in there

[frozen tide]

which is also what i have done which i was talking about which is when somebody told me to just give them gifts instead

which is how the whole convo started

[summer flower]

Yea no, slap more of valley gifts instead

[oblique hemlock]

Any idea what type of unit tangtang will be?

[frozen tide]

[bitter cove]

i got vid
lemme clip it out

[summer flower]

I don't think there is someone who only can take wulling gifts

[frozen tide]

scroll up

[rare zodiac]

no leak in official or get bonk

[cinder oxide]

Its not worth to load 9 subpar gifts at all

[summer flower]

I disagree

[cinder oxide]

I just take the extra WL bill hit

[summer flower]

Its valley bills vs wuling bills

I think ratio of use is skewed more than 9:1

[cinder oxide]

Im hungry for WL bills but not THAT hungry

[summer flower]

Then you didnt artifice enough

[oblique hemlock]

[cinder oxide]

Ive alr gotten all the WL essences I need so I usually can buy out artifice store

[summer flower]

What's gain ratio even? With max theorytical?

[cinder oxide]

While still buying gifts

[summer flower]

Then you multiply gain ratio with demand ratio

[cinder oxide]

Plus the expensive WL gifts cost 9k per and thats not a lot tbh

[summer flower]

Bam, like 20:1 or 15:1 at least

[rare zodiac]

8k is one gear

[bitter cove]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxlzYU4gzrC911Y2Jaxbk8XEZMRoBVjLgN
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxeS9gWykUNrrO62DyT26kpALDJoYcrore

[rare zodiac]

so 9k is a lot imo

[cinder oxide]

The cost of gear is nothing compared to 60k catalyst

[distant python]

60k catalyst is fine

But fuck the 120k catalysts

Not worth imo

[cinder oxide]

Nah I buy it out too

Imagine not cleaning out WLC essence

[rare zodiac]

just need to hit one of these

[summer flower]

3:50 damn

[cinder oxide]

Honestly thats whatever the sell price is way more important

If its below 5.5k I dont sell

[summer flower]

3:20?

[outer ermine]

[summer flower]

Secret tech

We were canceling on wrong hit

[chilly raft]

I think of roading building gameplay

You will have to build road in order to use mount(let the dev decide if you even need mount)
Need materials and etc... to build road(put some reward here)
Road will be destroy by monster every weeks and you have to beat them and rebuild (put some reward here)
Strong Monsters-Bosses will drop rare item or gacha currency (make it endgame perma content)

[mortal trellis]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gzrq0Uj86TP0oXb5Qb5wt6WNwNMXekmuA_mjYMeFUC0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
I saw this post on reddit, I'm not super knowledgeable batk sequence stuff so does anyone know if there's any caveats

currently just onfielding chen for most of my clears but my pog for sure does more damage since i have him much more invested

actually im not even sure if it considers anim cancelling, imma ask

However, since no numbers exist in each character's Basic Attack info to differentiate them, and the amount of SP recovered with each character's Final Strike that I've tested has all provided near-identical amounts to the naked eye, I'm going to assume that the amount of SP recovered with a Final Strike is universal.
ok nvm

[chilly raft]

lmao

[dry kindle]

It isnt so

[mortal trellis]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lTmtm4I9Fp2SiSvN2tmWDHYeU885PD86qSq7POCXeB4/edit?gid=0#gid=0
okay now i found another spreadsheet that claims to consider animation canceling, but i see chen with only 1 cancel