theorycrafting

[bitter cove]

reapplying corrosion maintains the previous applicaiton's status level

[distant python]

nice

[bitter cove]

idk others
but atleast thats the case for corrosion

[hasty grail]

When I tested back in cbt2, perlica forced elec overwrote the higher lv one

[distant python]

whats the difference between corrosion and electrification functionally

ther but have the same multipliers

[bitter cove]

corrosion is -res

elec is art dmg taken

[distant python]

but ones damage taken and the other is -res

but these are functionally the same end damage number no?

assuming 0 resistance i guess

[bitter cove]

there are from different bracket

[distant python]

i guess you also can stack them

[hasty grail]

Well corrosion lowers their res overtime right? so rewriting it might not recover their lost res

[distant python]

also electrification lasts longer at higher stacks

corrosion is flat 15

[bitter cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086682564849684/1473040694569468075/Screenshot_2026-02-16_at_2.37.46_PM.png?ex=6994c38d&is=6993720d&hm=385cc41aa1ab4eaad50b1ec23d4f6cb75cc1de4b5d7adc5984564a3f9252562a&

[hasty grail]

Is the wiki wrong? It says "The reduction starts at a certain value and increases over time until it reaches the maximum. The maximum effect is reached after about 10 seconds. Refreshing the Corrosion does not change the resistance reduction, meaning a stronger reduction can be refreshed with a weaker Corrosion"

[distant python]

hold on a second, does this mean you shoulnt use ardelia skill on corrosion causes by 4 stacks of inflictions

[bitter cove]

it is not flat 15

[distant python]

15 in terms of total time of corrosion

[bitter cove]

its depends on the stack

[distant python]

not the res reduction amount

[bitter cove]

oh yeah duration is 15

[bitter cove]

depends on the team ig
the only team/vid i see that actively applying 4 stack corrosion is lightning with gil

[distant python]

true

[bitter cove]

and not using ardelia

[distant python]

but what about

arts intensity

whats the multiplier of arts intensity to the res shred?

[outer ermine]

oh no....

[distant python]

is it just convert to percentage or half and convert to percentage?

[bitter cove]

u can check the amount ingame
i saw the math somewhere but i dont really remember

this is what wiki says

[distant python]

the fuck is this calc

is this not just

[outer ermine]

wtf is missing, 830 to 919k

[distant python]

half arts intensity

as a percentage?

okay not quite

diminishing returns things

[bitter cove]

it is correct

[distant python]

okay i understand the calc now

its similar to how a lot of games do defense

but instead of defence number/ 100

they added some stuff

[bitter cove]

og arknight defence calc was very straight forward
phys to def is flat reduce
arts to res is % based (20 res = 20% dmg reduce)

idk about endfield tho

"Each point of Physical Resistance and Arts Resistance gives 1% DMG Reduction against the respective damage type, up to a maximum of 90% DMG Reduction. For example, 250 Agility translate to 20% Physical DMG Reduction."

wait the last quote was for ops

[twin plover]

Do we even have any def reduction currently?

[bitter cove]

i think res is the straight forward one, just reduce based on % amount
def translate to this

not yet

breach is phys dmg taken
elec is arts dmg taken
corrosion is -res

if we have any
its probably wont be a elemental reaction but a straight debuff like ardelia's

[distant python]

waiting for aether element to be added

3 years and we get playable nefarith with aether element

[outer ermine]

0.1 cs to break; bugged run
0.601 cs to break; normal
hell no

[twin plover]

Wait, how does this formula even work for negative def

Unless it substitutes the abs value of def there

Otherwise the less def you have, the more the bottom formula gives, no?

Capping at 2

[bitter cove]

lets say -100 def on enemy

minus 2

u get 0.73

if u have 100 def
then its 100/200
half

what does it mean?
idk its number

[summer flower]

websites for gear are dumb

no attack gloves listed

[outer ermine]

i have no idea how to replicate this shit or even see any cues

[twin plover]

Yeah but it says -def there

so it's - - 100

[drifting quest]

dare I ask if you genuinely mean the purple Mordvolt attack% gloves in a genuine capacity

[summer flower]

yes, i mean those

[bitter cove]

it goes positive when u have positive def

neg if neg

[drifting quest]

Of course it would be

[bitter cove]

so neg = more meg

idk man i need to sleep

but hitting minus def actually give so much dmg

unreal

[summer flower]

-100 def sounds a lot

cause its enemy def + 100 in reduction

[dry kindle]

Except yk

We can't interact with it at all rn

[twin plover]

Yeah but shouldn't it be just ^DEF if def is below 0?

[bitter cove]

no?
theres seperate formula for neg def

^-100 def is different than 2-0.99^-100

[twin plover]

This formula uses just def.
Bottom row says "if DEF is < 0"
So when you substitute negative def there you get a positive exponent, no?

[bitter cove]

oh

idk
the def >= 0 is ofc positive so know if its supposed to be positive/neg in calc
but isnt def < 0 is the same as neg def?

so is it just calling it as -def
or a "-" in a calc

[twin plover]

To be clear, my issue is with the - in the formula as that could be a typo

since def is already negative if we're using the bottom one

[drifting quest]

if it was +Def (when at negative def) you would have a negative exponent

[summer flower]

you want division by 0?

[drifting quest]

which would make things go

very wrong

[glacial jackal]

It basically says if def is positive multiplayer is close to 0 and if def is negative multiplayer is positive less than. 2

[summer flower]

seriously

-100 def in put in first one breaks it

completly

[twin plover]

If you don't get a negative exponent, 0 def gives better damage than going under tho, no?

Wait, negative also sucks, you're right

what the hell is that

[summer flower]

-100 def is division by zero in first one

not even going into indented behaviour

[drifting quest]

Def = 100
Use top formula > multiplier = 0.5
Def = 0
Use top formula > multiplier = 1
Def = -100
Use bottom formula > multiplier = ~1.63

i dont see what the issue is

[twin plover]

Negative multiplier?

[drifting quest]

there is no negative multiplier

where are you getting that from

[twin plover]

Wait no

that was ~

[glacial jackal]

Yeah negative not possible

[drifting quest]

its like 1.6339....

[twin plover]

Ok, I;m just fucking dumb

[summer flower]

try using top formula

[drifting quest]

the multiplier caps out at x2 for negative defense scaling to infinity

[twin plover]

Idk why it looked wrong, it works

[summer flower]

-100 def in top formula

[twin plover]

Yeah, I somehow couldn't register I'm already looking at the multi

my bad

[drifting quest]

happens

[outer ermine]

omfg i figured it out

actualyl fucking huge

[next helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1176006795874021427/1469320967359828092/jfb01.gif

[summer flower]

5 stacks of what?

[glacial jackal]

In that function you cant do that

[restive crescent]

bskills always generate 6.5 right -- and this is directly modified by ulti regen; are other sources always multiplied by multi regen or are there exceptions

[summer flower]

it was regarding fact that there are two formulas

[glacial jackal]

Its not formula its function

[summer flower]

my whole point

[summer flower]

and is there formula in this?

you trolling or what

[drifting quest]

always no

[summer flower]

ohh wait

[drifting quest]

some skills can generate more or less

[summer flower]

i just looked at name, yea...

[glacial jackal]

Its math

[restive crescent]

those are written in the skill desc tho right

or talents

[drifting quest]

for the most part yes

[restive crescent]

wtf are there exceptions to taht

[drifting quest]

every case might be covered for skills

thinking on it

[bitter cove]

how do u get taht number
is my way of doing it wrong or what

[drifting quest]

the main exception not listed is like arclight combo skill, which is different to your question

[bitter cove]

2 minus 0.99 empower negative 100 right

[drifting quest]

this is for positive 100 def, so wrong formula

[restive crescent]

ic

6.5 should be uniform across teammates or is it reduced for the non-caster

[drifting quest]

it would be -(-100) or 100

[glacial jackal]

Bro its -def so -(-def)= +def

[restive crescent]

im calcing regen requirements and its like off for some reason

[summer flower]

stop trolling okay?

[bitter cove]

wait what

[drifting quest]

the formula is 0.99^-(Def)
when def <0
so if def is say -100
0.99^-(-100)

[glacial jackal]

Trying to help here

[bitter cove]

ah

[drifting quest]

as long as it doesnt specify it gives more (or less) then yes

[summer flower]

i'm not one asking help or needing help with topic

[bitter cove]

i see now
iam enlighted

[summer flower]

i was only pointing out that two formulas are required because of how first one breaks anyway

[restive crescent]

hmm ok weird

[summer flower]

i dont see reason to go into intended behaviour if its invalid at speciifc negative value

[glacial jackal]

This is just a simple explanation of that function

[summer flower]

its approaching 0 for positive and 2 for negative right?

[glacial jackal]

Yeah

You cant do more than double damage even if def is negative

[raw spruce]

In a physical team, if i only got endmin built who should i focus now ?

[summer flower]

you cant go double unless rounding is happening

[summer flower]

what you got for phys guys?

[restive crescent]

oknvm i was just trolling my rotation

me dumb

[raw spruce]

Chen Pog and lifeng (with endmin)

[drifting quest]

all 3, really

[summer flower]

that looks like recomended phys team

[drifting quest]

you cant really skimp on building any of them for phys

[outer ermine]

just need a shit ton of food buffs now

[raw spruce]

but who is the most useful to focus my lucidity on ?

[summer flower]

okay, that's funny way to call sanity

you could build them all on par

or prioritise but i have no idea who would be best to do it on

[drifting quest]

there is no singular one that is best to focus on, you want them all built

[raw spruce]

Ok thanks

I've only really built one unit, the rest is still lvl 30 to 40 i will try to make them 90 with weapon 90, I'm only scared of my number of credits being low

[summer flower]

wait

[drifting quest]

ill be real

[summer flower]

you got 90 on endmin and rest on 30 or 40?

[drifting quest]

maxing one to 90 and ignoring the rest was quite the waste

[icy minnow]

Focus on all team members to 60/80 first

[summer flower]

why was it waste? @drifting quest

[drifting quest]

the team does not function with that disparity
cost to 80>90 is similar to the cost to 60>80

just overall giga griefs how long it takes for the team to come online and function

like sure if you're good enough just go solo with endmin

[summer flower]

solo chen seems more resonable than solo endmin

casue self combo

[raw spruce]

I've kinda took the habit of getting one good unit and built the rest of his team with it when i try a gacha so i kinda know i've done some waste ...

Since i've took the time to MAX endmin...

[summer flower]

i wouldnt call it waste to max first carry even with such disparity

not optimal maybe but that's an expected choice to have players do

which was even presented as option in survey they have made

[craggy pond]

late reply but i got to this number with the stats you sent in this clip, which is awfully close (it actually matches perfectly if your attack is 5690 instead of 5610 but idk where those 80 atk would come from). I will check the other clip when i get home

[drifting quest]

in other teams e.g. hypercarries the supports arent doing much lifting by comparison so you can get away with it

in physical there are 3 dps units who all want their investment

you can play hypercarry teams with uninvested supports, even if its subpar

you just cant play phys with uninvested dps

[raw spruce]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how much overkill is this then ?

[summer flower]

O.O

jealous/10

[peak void]

imo u can do pog and lifeng first, just to make the rotations smoother

after that, any further improvement is js for dmg

[summer flower]

60/80

get all perks under (circles in skill trees)

then do whatever if its maxing them out or not

[plucky warren]

Just to make sure with Yvonne currently, her pass weapon is perfectly serviceable and it's not worth getting her arsenal weapon when it swaps?

[raw spruce]

Ok thanks ! i will try to see if i got something potent for the late game event before his end

[summer flower]

Ideal shop

[outer ermine]

yuppp getting it constantly now

[drifting quest]

artzy is like kinda bad but so is navigator
but navigator is good enough

[tall swift]

you don't refresh?

[outer ermine]

[summer flower]

Look cost

[plucky warren]

They refreshed once

[tall swift]

I'd refresh again tbh @.@

[summer flower]

I saw shop with every Item being desirable

So i took them all

[plucky warren]

But the other options aren't any better?

[tall swift]

aight

[summer flower]

Tcreds purple skill thingies

[chilly bison]

well still remain that I have ginseng stew meat buff

[drifting quest]

wedge is better at equal pots, higher pot navi can scale above lower pot wedge
both can approach p0 artzy, higher pot wedge can overtake p0 artzy pretty easily

[swift onyx]

Ill do u first

[drifting quest]

generally about 2 pots is required for navi to beat wedge

[tall swift]

so basically always skip

[plucky warren]

No wedge but could p3 Navi

[craggy pond]

you mean i haven't accounted for it?

[drifting quest]

artzy is pretty mid

[peak void]

wtf even here? 😳

[drifting quest]

mid sig for a bad unit

[chilly bison]

idk if you accounted it but just remain it

[tall swift]

yeah looked pretty terrible, tbh Yvonne's numbers aren't looking too hot atm, but that might be bc we don't have many good team options for her just yet

[craggy pond]

btw it should be added to your attack stat so if you could then send me the atk after eating all foods to make it easier to calc

[drifting quest]

unfortunately yvonne is likely forever doomed to exist in last rite's shadow

[chilly bison]

also the on video is quite old so the before LR atk should less then current 5610 one

[drifting quest]

any support for yvonne likely just makes last rite better

[craggy pond]

is 5610 your attack after eating every food

[tall swift]

maybe, we'll see

[chilly bison]

well the food buff add 180 flat attack so shouldn't be that hard ?

[chilly bison]

no that current default attack

[tall swift]

don't food buffs not stack

[craggy pond]

i wouldn't know i never tried more than 1

[peak void]

true…

[tall swift]

ah, well yeah pretty sure they don't stack

[chilly bison]

food don't stack

[craggy pond]

so it could be that your attack at the time after eating ginseng is 5690

[chilly bison]

yea maybe

[tall swift]

ginseng attack buff gives more than just 180 though, because it's multiplied by the other constants no?

[chilly bison]

but then where's my last 200k go ?

[tall swift]

additive > % boosts in this game iirc

[craggy pond]

well that would explain for that clip because this is the number i get with 5690

[drifting quest]

jakubs can scale higher than ginseng

depends per unit and team

[amber vapor]

Last rite is the true fashionista

[tall swift]

really?

[drifting quest]

yes

[chilly bison]

ye ayea it scale higher

by abit

[drifting quest]

differs by unit

ginsengi s more for some

[tall swift]

so it's situational? or depends on operator equips etc

[drifting quest]

jakubs is more for others

[tall swift]

that's pretty darn cool actually

[chilly bison]

if you want to mald for more crit

[tall swift]

that they made it pretty even

[chilly bison]

ginseng better

[drifting quest]

the crit is a non factor

ginseng straight up is more attack for some units

[tall swift]

yvonne would benefit from it though yeah?

[chilly bison]

yea

[drifting quest]

yvonne already overcaps on crit

[tall swift]

oh really?

[drifting quest]

yeah

[craggy pond]

it's weird because i got to the 300k range with literally every buff accounted for, so unless there's something i miss there's no chance it could ever surpass 400k

[tall swift]

geez

[chilly bison]

but still

aren't crit quite low for 50% ?

[restive crescent]

yvonne crit requirements r pretty low unless ur trying to stack artzy with like 99% consistency

[chilly bison]

like 383k > 425685 is quite ficking low gain for a crit

[craggy pond]

this means your base dmg is even lower here

because the crit multiplier is x1.5

[tall swift]

imo that's a good thing lol

also with newer sets we might get more cdmg, i think we'll just have to wait

[craggy pond]

so at the minimum you should be dealing close to 600k with your 380k base

[chilly bison]

but isn't shouldn't be lower then 383k since no buff or debuff is missing

[summer flower]

wait what

[restive crescent]

is that from the ult

[chilly bison]

no combo skill

[restive crescent]

or the additional hits of the ult

[craggy pond]

that's why i said your base would be even lower there

[gritty olive]

your crit mult seems tk be 1.111

but thats impossible. you should have a lower base

[chilly bison]

then I could assuming that last rite combo is buggy as heck

[craggy pond]

if your crit is 400k then your base is like 2xxk

just saying

[gritty olive]

400k crit is 266k base

[craggy pond]

i think my bigger question is how you even reach 500k with combo in the first place

[restive crescent]

o this is lr

[craggy pond]

because as mentioned i accounted for every possible buff/ debuff

and it didn't surpass 400k

[chilly bison]

that the neat part

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

like her combo damge just doesn't make any sense

[craggy pond]

rn my theory is you didn't lose dmg per se but she dealt more than she should've

now she's just fixed

are you able to replicate a 500k today

or is that only doable in the past

[summer flower]

was there time difference between those two numbers?

[chilly bison]

yea

[craggy pond]

do you have the clip for that

[chilly bison]

7 run out 4

[craggy pond]

if possible, go in her stat page and show me every single one of her stat before the run, just to make sure

because calculation error can happen and it helps minimizing it

[summer flower]

500k ohmmm okay

[amber vapor]

529816 on combo damn

225285*2 + 418061 on ult

[silent hound]

is art susceptibility in the same damage bracket as art DMG taken?

[craggy pond]

no

[amber vapor]

425685 crit on ult last hit hmmm

@chilly bison yeah something's fishy here

[pure spoke]

Damn where is this from? I am pretty sure i watched it

[chilly bison]

that combo skill\

[outer ermine]

w new tech

w/o

its so fucking good

[summer flower]

WAIT WHAT

[outer ermine]

lemme crit bruh i wanna see 1.3m

[summer flower]

isnt crit one hit for that boss then?

[outer ermine]

supposedly now yes

[dry kindle]

Rhod is 2.2 smh

[amber vapor]

Oh I skimmed lmao thanks for the correction

Either way a crit hitting lower than a normal proc is weird if everything else is exactly the same

[outer ermine]

so it should be 99% easier now, only need to fish 115k from ard, cs crit and either the freeze or break

[outer ermine]

its not like i only deal 1.3m across the whole run smh

[craggy pond]

this is no food?

[chilly bison]

yes

all no food

[outer ermine]

the break crit fish is better now too since it happens .100s after cs instead of .600

someone gib me ginseng

and time

inb4 bug abuse and gets patched

[glacial jackal]

Dose gilbert have potential to be in every elemental team for reactions and grouping?

[amber vapor]

Watch them add an invuln between phases in future bosses so that you can one shit with crits 🗿

[glacial jackal]

She will be best elemental support right

[drifting quest]

potential? sure
realistically? less so

[glacial jackal]

Why not

[glossy light]

does clannibal's effect counted as susceptibility?

[drifting quest]

she currently can go in every elemental team, and is optimal in a decent few, but requires understanding her kit and playing optimally to work
other units do what she does with less effort and less chance to mess up

as a generic support she is also at the mercy of dedicated supports not releasing, which is likely to happen

[glacial jackal]

Her weapon buff is also op

[drifting quest]

her sig is like worse than stanza a good chunk of the time

[glacial jackal]

Ooh

Need to check

[tight haven]

she'll remain relevant for aoe but i think few players will want to use her over ardelia for anything ever

she has a far higher competency requirement to use properly and cares about gearing far more than ardelia

[granite marten]

Anyone know which weapons xaihi wants in a Yvonne/LR/gilb team

[tight haven]

detonation unit

gilberta uses stanza or sig

[granite marten]

Ic, the other two will have their sig so that’s settled

[glacial jackal]

True

Only if passive was better buff/debuff

[jaunty verge]

Should I max a skill yet after hitting 9/9/9 on all skills?

[glacial jackal]

Yeah they are

[tight haven]

sig is really only used for its ult eff

if its not needed use stanza

[drifting quest]

If sig didnt have ult eff

[tight haven]

yeah lmao

[glacial jackal]

Yeah

[tight haven]

arts dmg% is such a bad stat

and its so low too

[glacial jackal]

She is starter banner afterall

I hope upcoming supports will be tailored

[frigid vector]

tbh getting stanza dupes at this point

harder than sig

[tight haven]

tru

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[frigid vector]

im not whel yet, biding my time

[drifting quest]

Stanza should be in daily shop this week

I think

[frigid vector]

gotta check it later

[dry kindle]

Please no

I needa save my arsenal tickets

[tight haven]

punished

[drifting quest]

My daily rotation tracker is fucked

So I'm not certain

But I think we had WW Finchaser before

[frigid vector]

is it on a fixed rotation? that's pretty neat if so

[normal tangle]

lowkey do i just put nova on pogra

this is kinda crazy

[dry kindle]

Bleh

[peak void]

ehh

where fortmaker

fortmaker is peaker

btw does anyone know if i can somehow sneak an alesh skill in yvonne team rot

[tight haven]

fortmakers better because of the ult charge

[peak void]

for finchaser schizo

[drifting quest]

I assumed it was but thinking on it there's a chance it might not be
We'll know in a week or two since we would be looping back by then

[gaunt apex]

is this p3 LR?

[chilly bison]

yes

[gaunt apex]

why not use perlica who can give an extra 800% damage and crit rate? or is gilberta actually better?

[dry kindle]

Finally bothered finishing laev set

[chilly bison]

where's is that 800% damge and crit rate come from ?

[dry kindle]

Drugs

[chilly bison]

even drug don't give that much

[gaunt apex]

correct me if im wrong

[chilly bison]

she deal damge

[gaunt apex]

wait, its not buf?

[hasty grail]

imagine an 800% damage buff

[chilly bison]

imagine 800% damage buff x2

[gaunt apex]

😭

[chilly bison]

it clearly say suffer massive electric dmg

and it damge mutlipler is 800%

[dry kindle]

No shit 😭

[craggy pond]

i wonder why perlica isn't the best support in the game with 800% buff

[gaunt apex]

guess im trippin’, i thought perlica was the goto for LR because of this

[craggy pond]

with that buff you could one tap every boss in the game

[gaunt apex]

ez endgame content 😹

[chilly bison]

well depend, gilberta give better long buff + more on LR ult

while perlica is for short burst

[outer ermine]

9.7s looks like my limit, 2 runs same time, everything else above, 0 cs crit

[chilly bison]

yea last rite combo crit just broken

cause aint no way this is lower base damge

meanwhile the ult

[gaunt apex]

r u using combo skill chest gear?

[bronze plume]

one step closer

[gritty olive]

one step forward, two steps back

[bronze plume]

agreed 0 crowns

imma lvl 90 avy and gilberta

[unkempt apex]

Why not her sir

[craggy pond]

i don't think she's even supposed to deal that much with ult

what is this weird ass phenomenon where nothing makes sense

[bronze plume]

why tf would i care for aurora

[chilly bison]

well it crit so it match her base

meanwhile the combo isn't

[craggy pond]

it doesn't even is the thing, the problem i find rn is not even the fact she's hitting lower, it shouldn't even be physically possible to hit 500k with combo let alone the ult

[chilly bison]

I mean because am in food buff soooo

[craggy pond]

well that part would make sense then

[chilly bison]

mean while the combo crit act like it doesn't crit

[craggy pond]

ig what makes no sense is combo with food buff & crit hitting lower than combo without food buff & no crit

[chilly bison]

30k diffirent with crit

unbeliveable

428k is with food btw

[craggy pond]

yes that's why i'm confused, cuz you hit 520k with no buff & no crit

[chilly bison]

buggy skill for sure

[fading fog]

How does Estella Endmin shatter compare to Xaihi Alesh Hyper for Yvonne (gilb as 4th in both)?

[chilly bison]

also

aren't combo skill

suppose to deal higher damge then ult ?

[craggy pond]

way higher

[chilly bison]

am pretty sure combo skill with full stack cyro have higher scale then ult

[craggy pond]

i mean compared to the last hit

[chilly bison]

yea compare to last hit

[craggy pond]

last hit of ult is 800%, combo with 4 stacks is 1120%

[chilly bison]

so it that sense it shouldn't even lower then last ult damge

[craggy pond]

wait does the crystal shard dmg count for combo skill dmg as well

that's the 1 part i didn't get when reading her skill description

[void wraith]

Apologies for the sudden ping. I was backreading & searching about yvonne gear and saw this message. Which "slab" are you referring to

[craggy pond]

why are there 2 different multipliers

[chilly bison]

no, only her last bonk scale

[chilly bison]

cause her combo skill have 2 hit

[craggy pond]

so the first one triggers weapon effect

ig that makes sense

[craggy pond]

actually i found a mistake in my calculation earlier and the supposed number is now even lower at 370k

with combo

[chilly bison]

one hit with freeze enemy

[craggy pond]

I can't find a single way to increase that further

[chilly bison]

one with the bonk and scale with cyro stack

[chilly bison]

so conclusion

her combo is buggy

[craggy pond]

also, this is with 5610 atk?

[chilly bison]

yes

[craggy pond]

also show me her dmg% bonus part if you could, i wanna double check that one cuz it's the one i'm unsure about

like in her stat

[tight haven]

lynx slab

the kits on lifeng here

[green cipher]

Slab propaganda

[craggy pond]

nvm i got it right i'm utterly defeated now

[green cipher]

[chilly bison]

[craggy pond]

the only multiplier i think could possibly be in the way is the stagger multiplier but that makes no sense

cuz he isn't staggered

[chilly bison]

I mean

her crit being low

already doesn't make sense

let alone how that 500k+ happen

[bold rose]

idk how some ppl get to 700+ this is me maxed out gear and essence

pots?

[craggy pond]

this build at p0 caps at 696

[bold rose]

or are they using slab

[craggy pond]

over 700 are either p2 or lynx

[proud vector]

Pot stat buff do be existing
(Truly the saddest of potentials)

[civic wolf]

is it just me or is this kinda useless? can i just... not get it? in this resource trying times?

Antal btw

[neat snow]

Pot gives 20 int

[proud vector]

It’s kinda useless, but then again

Your AI aren’t immune to damage or anything and this probably helps with that. Especially since as a support Antal won’t have the highest level

(They dodge really good but making them do skills locks them into animations that can get them hit)

[civic wolf]

i'll get the second upgrade if i ever see Antal die i guess

[proud vector]

That’s the spirit

[drifting berry]

So there is this official art and Tangtang is handcannon and Mifu is great sword

Iwas honestly not expending a Hand cannon operator for like 3-4 patches

[civic wolf]

anything to upgrade on Gilberta atm? or is it largeley irrelevant

seems like all of stuff is personal damage and lol support damage

[craggy pond]

wait wtf this is her dmg non crit, it's actually correct

[drifting berry]

Ult M1 gives the maximun vulnerativily and artice energy regen on gear. Everything else is personal damage

[craggy pond]

accounted for ginseng buff

[civic wolf]

ONLY Ult M1?

[chilly bison]

yes that with ginseng

now where's the 50% crit go

[craggy pond]

no like this is supposed to be her dmg with food without crit

[drifting berry]

M1 gives 30% + 3% per vulnerability, doesn't go higher than that

[quartz flame]

do i take it or do i keep rolling for 3/3

the intellect boost doesnt really matter but it's really annoying to have only 2/3

[open hare]

Ball

3/3

You must achieve perfection

[quartz flame]

kinda crazy the purples ive been getting

[open hare]

Now I must farm my daily essence

Because I need 15 more legendary essence

[pure spoke]

Its not official. The fanarts in the official website dont reflect the actual game. Its stated somewhere in the website

[warm galleon]

^endmin slapper confirmed!

[quartz flame]

6 star weapon

slapper

[drifting berry]

Supreme chief Tangtang at some point mentions that Mifu took her favorite hand cannon or something like that I think

[pure spoke]

Yes she did.

[drifting berry]

Tho Mifu being great sword might me outdated

this fan art is also somewhat old

[pure spoke]

You can also see her holding a pistol in the beginning when you fight monsters

Also in the trailer

There was also an artwork of kal tsit or mon3tr and ppl thought it was confirmation that m3 was her or something like that. But thats just fanart

[warm galleon]

Everyone can be using arts unit and still passable

[dawn patrol]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1468631838695100592/my-toughts-after-100h-as-a-brand-new-gacha-player-v0-bqokg61ag3hg1.png?ex=6984b97c&is=698367fc&hm=1d9878061e5afb7ee7e2e8962a56f98397918e0aac3faa4bb9fe78c44e44697e&

[pure spoke]

Isnt the roadmap outdated?

[vestal sinew]

does ult gain threshold stand for something different than ult gain efficiency?

[warm galleon]

Threshold definition

[drifting berry]

I don't remember that one on the trailer but I will trust because is the second time I hear it I think

[pure spoke]

I think at least 37.5%

[vestal sinew]

yeah but it doesnt make sense tho? why would it ask you to get 37.5% if the gear suggested already gives more than that?

[potent hornet]

because you want at least that much before the build starts to come online.

[craggy pond]

it doesn't, it just inform you that in case you want to change any of the piece

that you need at least 37.5% charge for the build to be viable

[vestal sinew]

i see,thanks i was a bit lost regarding that

[pure spoke]

Trust me i watched the trailer like 10 times xd

[craggy pond]

if the threshold was higher there would've been artificing involved

but there's none here so

[warm galleon]

4pc of the same thing can be 3/3 with a slab or replace glove with this and that instead type of thing.

[vestal sinew]

how do yall choose on what to artifice like whats the artifice priority?

[potent hornet]

is there a new trailer?

[open hare]

Balls

[potent hornet]

gonna need more info for that question. which character, which sets

[pure spoke]

No

[vestal sinew]

these

[drifting berry]

I don't think there a specific order I always priorityze 3rd stat on the kits, and primary stat on chest and gloves.

[open hare]

Tang tang

Where's my rpg

I need to shoot civilians tang tang

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[open hare]

Trust me, their infected.

Oripathy is contagious, I swear.

[pure spoke]

We arent in terra smh

We have different racism

[open hare]

The Ursus government doesn't believe that

[pure spoke]

U r sus

[open hare]

They sent me, Hatsune Miku to spread propaganda of Ursus

[heady zenith]

If I use Laevatain as a Main with wulfguard as a sub dps. Is it still worth getting his BIS gun?

[pure spoke]

Isnt wulf just a buff hoe for lae?

[open hare]

Yes

[heady zenith]

Kinda provides stacks

[boreal coral]

The 5* is bis

[pure spoke]

Rip

[potent hornet]

start with whoever you are using as your main dps, and yea 3rd stats first then your primary scaling stat on chests and gloves, fill in your secondary stats later if you care about them

[heady zenith]

Ok, thanks

[pure spoke]

Damn can we skip yvonne banner for tangtang

[potent hornet]

yea gotta wait a while

[warm galleon]

Just wait faster

[open hare]

Yvonne banner

Is ass

"Ass"

[pure spoke]

She has ass

[open hare]

Wait till she gets gear and just kills everythint

Pew pew pew

[pure spoke]

Yvonne the ice agent

Cryo

[warm galleon]

Operator*

DLC*

[heady zenith]

So I should just upgrade *5 and put copies into it if I get some?

[open hare]

Yvonne, shoot the cryo minigun

[pure spoke]

Stop resisting

[open hare]

You stop resisting

[boreal coral]

Its just the ult gain that matters

[open hare]

Im saving my pulls

I got both gil and surtr

[pure spoke]

Who? I only know ange

[open hare]

I hit pity on surtr, and got gil in 60 pulls

Im broke man

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-yvonne-tada-gif-3763821894077782945

[warm galleon]

I got Gilb on 120 pity but got lae and yvonne on the process.

[open hare]

Get flashed

[pure spoke]

Its no fair

[open hare]

Ptsd now

[heady zenith]

Alright, better put a hold on those coins for another weapon then 😂

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pea-arknights-eyjafjalla-post-this-sheep-gif-14825646896280885920

[pure spoke]

I got p1 surtr at 70 pulls and ange at 60. But i dont use surtr

[open hare]

Surtr it

You know you want to

[pure spoke]

I just want to nearl it

[open hare]

Fair

But

[pure spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205632273580425268/1232417363933139096/JustUseNearl.gif

[open hare]

Always watching....

[pure spoke]

Im team theresa

Fk priestess

[open hare]

Im team both

[open hare]

Bet give me timr

[drifting berry]

Virtuosa 🔥

[pure spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1368212272345907260/1466630656879493365/chen_scratchy.gif

[open hare]

I made a priestess channel for my friend

And let me tell you

I cant find the end

[normal tangle]

which of these are actually useful

[dry kindle]

Just buy all of them

Weirdo

[open hare]

You should just buy all of them

[normal tangle]

but that's so much money 💔

[open hare]

No its not

[pure spoke]

200 wuling arrificing

[drifting berry]

literally free

[dry kindle]

MF homeless

[warm galleon]

Buy the weekly 40 artificing then extra goes to the 200s

[open hare]

Lee, whatever gif you posted just gave me

[pure spoke]

Yall mf act like you werent broke the first few days in wuling

[open hare]

15mb to my data

[open hare]

Cause I wasn't

[pure spoke]

I have a way bigger one

[drifting berry]

5000 doesn't even give you 1 arteficing

[pure spoke]

81 mb chen gif

[open hare]

You better not

Im running on datat

[warm galleon]

Hours*

[gritty briar]

If you are really that broke, just buy them when you need them

[pure spoke]

Ok

Im generous today

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[open hare]

Wowo

Happy Miku

[pure spoke]

What meat is this?

[open hare]

Tuna

[heady pine]

Thanks

[warm galleon]

Mikumikubeam!

[open hare]

Japanese Sushi

[pure spoke]

Ayo tuna

[open hare]

Miku feeling a little... hungry....

[pure spoke]

Not the biggest fan of raw tuna

[open hare]

Well, its in Japan so everything tastes good

[pure spoke]

Thats what a weeb would say

And i approve

[open hare]

I was about to say something till you finished that

[pure spoke]

Lmao

I was in japan last year

[open hare]

Yes, but.

https://tenor.com/view/black-souls-grimm-gif-7446727413663148207

Where's Alice

[pure spoke]

Sry i dont get this fortnite reference

[proud vector]

p0rn game no?

[pure spoke]

Oh thats black soul?

[open hare]

Or is it

Where's Alice

[pure spoke]

Vsauce

[open hare]

I'll give you a v in sauce

The letter v

In your cereal

Cause you're a cereal killer

[pure spoke]

https://i.redd.it/jhpbe6uxbrgg1.gif

[open hare]

Im talking to 5 different people

[wind nebula]

in a few days you will probably think it's chump change

[normal tangle]

no i have 5m stock bills

that's still a lot of money

that's like -2 artificing attempts

[open hare]

Hey guys, I need help.

Anyone know a #1 Theresa glazer with 10T of Theresa pics? I

Darn.

[wind nebula]

that's less than a single level 2 Wuling delivery, and we'll eventually have level 4 Outpost and level 4 deliveries.

[open hare]

Y

[weak meteor]

sorry priestess numba 1

[open hare]

I already have a #1 priestess glazer

I need #1 Theresa glazer

So I can start a war

Where are my tc

[elder umbra]

Tf does ur freak have to do with tc

[open hare]

Im not freak

They are

[open hare]

Who are you

[weak meteor]

they ate pita bread and died

[open hare]

Who

Yu

[weak meteor]

yu like my little brother

[pure spoke]

Im number 1 nearl fan

https://tenor.com/view/well-behaved-bottoms-margaret-nearl-arknights-gif-11207974689752791564

[open hare]

I can convince you

[pure spoke]

Convince what

[open hare]

To come to priestess

[pure spoke]

Im team edward tho

Theresa

[boreal coral]

Level 4 outpost with 2 forge of the sky

[weak meteor]

well if you wanna win the war thenyou better convert

[mental slate]

How do we go about the gear artificing? Do we just focus on the main stat?

[pure spoke]

I dont win wars . I win the battles

[weak meteor]

you focus depending on what gives you the most damage, if crush then arts intensity or thigns that give stat or if just straight up damage like surtr the damage bonuses

like heat bouns

[pure spoke]

Cant go wrong with 2 2 2

[open hare]

Lee

[pure spoke]

Well if the 2nd stat isnt useless

[open hare]

I got something for you

[pure spoke]

One republic? Give me something

Ambatu

[open hare]

What

What are you talking about man

Theresa isnt all there is.

[pure spoke]

What what? You dont know the song?

[pure spoke]

Give me something

[open hare]

Im not giving something

[pure spoke]

https://youtu.be/YvZ47rREvms

[open hare]

You gotta give me thing first

[weak meteor]

not a games award watcher

[pure spoke]

Ikr

[open hare]

Cause Im watching both of you

[pure spoke]

Both of you - nicki minaj

[weak meteor]

im hiding you cant

[pure spoke]

Hiding between ines thighs

[open hare]

Kokoro

[pure spoke]

You didn't convert me btw

[weak meteor]

ines has no thighs

[pure spoke]

Reminded me of la pluma skin tho

[open hare]

TC

[pure spoke]

Whats tc?

[open hare]

Last Rite but 20000000000000 dmg

[weak meteor]

terrible circle

whenever someone draws a bad circle you say tc

[signal sundial]

anyone did the math on eternal xiranite power core (ultimate gain efficiency) vs power core t1 (treatment bonus) for ardelia?

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-art-squidward-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-7542501

[signal sundial]

i figured spawning more sheep = more healing right?

as opposed to each sheep healing for more

[weak meteor]

i dont hink anyone calculates anything but damage

[signal sundial]

lowkey not surprised

[pure spoke]

I think less and stronger heals are more worth it because you dont wanna use sp for more sheeps

Just a hunch

[open hare]

The hunchback of

[pure spoke]

[weak meteor]

im interested now

i might have a little look at it

[normal tangle]

treatment efficiency lowkey does not matter

unless you're getting hit by literally every attack under the sun, her base healing is more than fine

[open hare]

You will soon

[normal tangle]

?

[open hare]

I'll hit you with the

https://tenor.com/view/griddy-miku-hatsune-miku-vocaloid-gif-5951458306926896882

[weak meteor]

feisty miku

[signal sundial]

lowkey i keep dodging into attacks when doing umbral

skill issue

[weak meteor]

sounds like ember is the operator for you

[potent hornet]

So it looks like Rhodagn can now phase mid dmg

on LR ult

[open hare]

Because LR is built different

[outer ermine]

sounds like ur not doing enuf stagger

[bronze plume]

just run xiranite icl

[hexed edge]

everytime i see a red zone, i use skill, i think myself all skill have invunerable frames -.-

[bronze plume]

she holds its dmg buff perfectly and if you really need to max out her healing each dolly heals probably around 700-750 assuming ardelia is fully maxed

[potent hornet]

i think you might be right, i'm just short of first stagger bar when i hit my combo

[bronze plume]

if you use lynx its probably around 1300

[potent hornet]

i guess this is where a crit would be nice

[outer ermine]

go slower or, m1 ard ult

[bronze plume]

my ardelia is M9 so far

[outer ermine]

ard dps soon

[bronze plume]

fr

[signal sundial]

icl?

[bronze plume]

i cant lie

as in nothing else is better

[signal sundial]

oh

[bronze plume]

unless you really need more healing

[signal sundial]

both are technically the xiranite set yea

ulti gain does sound nice

more sheeps go brr

[bronze plume]

just use ultgain

she can only have a max of 10 sheep if you didnt know

[signal sundial]

i think i waws having trouble with the first umbral stage on hard mode

not sure if i was bad at dodging or i keep sending arclight to her doom

[open hare]

Waw?

Where is Aleph

https://tenor.com/view/lobotomy-corporation-lobotomy-lcorp-apocalypse-apocalypse-bird-gif-11366297067290622337

[proud vector]

it’s just the toxic gas going brrr

[open hare]

Thats why you need a helaer

Lehaer

[signal sundial]

ardelia has the benefits of being both a healer and cute

so thats not an issue for me

[dry kindle]

Or yk laev solo

[proud vector]

she actually outputs crazy heals tbh

A double trigger is 6 sheep

That’s like a good 4~k heal if wise enough

[bronze plume]

tbh i doubt most people have her invested enuf for over 600 healing per dolly atm

[signal sundial]

mines around 500 or so

[bronze plume]

mines 700ish

[proud vector]

truth be told I got annoyed at the 2nd umbral stage so I slapped a treatment set on

[bronze plume]

with unupgraded lynx set it goes to 1050 per dolly

[signal sundial]

i do want to e4 my ard so i can permanently leave her in the reception room tho

[proud vector]

Skill issue can be solved by factory

[signal sundial]

but ya my ard rn is just at the e3 60 breakpoint

[proud vector]

glory to the factory

[signal sundial]

havent started to artifice gear yeat and im not even sure i want to artifice for ardelia sine there's dps to work on

[bronze plume]

yeah mines uhh lvl 90 lvl 90 weapon maxed weapon nearly max gear and M9

[open hare]

Doll dill dol

Didy

[bronze plume]

yeah do dps first

[proud vector]

idek if I want to start artificing

[bronze plume]

i mean what else you finna use the stock bills on

[proud vector]

I think I prefer to hoard ticket until more Wuling stuff unlocks in like a bit

Who knows maybe more sets

[bronze plume]

i mean yeah obv there will be more

[proud vector]

my f2p ass ain’t speed killin’ any time soon anyways

[bronze plume]

id like to see the day where the arguable best for units cant just be no set

[proud vector]

I think that exists

For the stupidly high ultimate charge stuff

Laev 202%? Needs the int boosting ultimate charge gears no?

[bronze plume]

and like

[open hare]

Hoard hoard hoard

Har har har har

[bronze plume]

lots of supports just use max ult gain

[signal sundial]

surely at some point they'll put out a battle analysis feature

then all the math nerds can sweat it out doing the perfect combat rotation

[open hare]

I analyzed you shoukd dodge more

[proud vector]

time to become an Estelle expert

[open hare]

And I must forsake my path here

[lilac bloom]

i always forget estelle bc she just looks like budget snowshine

[proud vector]

out of all the 4* she is the cutest and actually isn’t kneecapped by a GODDAMN 40 CD COMBO SKILL

Also 70 energy ultimate poooog

[open hare]

For I must acquire the mats to make Last Rite

Gyatt

[signal sundial]

real and true

[late swallow]

Most of them do I think

[proud vector]

It’s usually “enough energy gen to hit rotational threshold”

[bronze plume]

that is literally what i said yes good job parrot

[weak meteor]

damn

[proud vector]

Honestly is it?

Akekuri does for sure

[signal sundial]

but on a serious note, i do think maplestory does it right

[proud vector]

But Perlica wants infliction

Ardelia could go any number of ways since her ultimate isn’t really a damage buff

Hell Ardelia could use that lv50 set that refunds you 50sp on first battle skill use

[signal sundial]

no way to objectively call your whales shit at the game except to get them to record a boss run analysis

[proud vector]

not the maplestory

Fckin billions of damage

Screen vomit

[signal sundial]

eh

its korean game coded

they like that kind of stuff ig

[lilac bloom]

what

oh like maplestory

[proud vector]

classical maple when

[signal sundial]

big number go brrr

but i agree the screen clutter is garbage

back when i played i had it set to display 1 line of damage at a time

[proud vector]

Truly

After being forged in the p2W hell that is Korean MMO

The psychological tricks of a gatcha game are nothing much huh

[signal sundial]

try enhancement system with 0 pity

[pure spoke]

Im sad estelle doesn't have more fanart

[signal sundial]

oh and if you fail your gear blows up

shoutout maplestory and bdo

[pure spoke]

I hate bdo

[dawn patrol]

shoutout elsword

[pure spoke]

[signal sundial]

did bdo ever get better or are y ou still forced to lifeskill with your pc on

[pure spoke]

No clue i only played like 1 year like it was my first life

[signal sundial]

i really enjoyed maehwa except apparently she's just shit at everything

[pure spoke]

Did you see crimson desert?

Coming next month

[signal sundial]

looking forward to it

[pure spoke]

Same.

[signal sundial]

i got my pc ready

and my ultrawide monitor ready

[pure spoke]

I hope its gonna be decent

[signal sundial]

so they better not drop the ball on 21:9 support

[pure spoke]

Better be good optimized

[signal sundial]

if it runs on the same bdo engine

[pure spoke]

In this economy tho

[signal sundial]

i imagine it should

then again i do remember losing some frames when bdo got remastered

[pure spoke]

Was more like server connection issue for me back then

[signal sundial]

ah

[pure spoke]

Blag desert

[signal sundial]

i played from singapore so most game servers are in sg (i think)

[weak meteor]

beige desert

[pure spoke]

I see

[signal sundial]

or at least it felt like it was in sg

when maplesea moved their servers out of SG to like thailand or something you could really feel it

but that was a long time ago

[pure spoke]

Never played maplesyrup online

Didnt they create p2w or gacha?

[signal sundial]

they had a literal gacha machine yes

[pure spoke]

Ah they did the f2p with microtransaction first

The root of evil

[signal sundial]

but they're one of the first few to do cashed player progression i think

[pure spoke]

[signal sundial]

runescape had freemium that locked most of the game behind a membership i suppose

[pure spoke]

Imagine a timeline without maplestory. The world would not have endfield or genshin and ppl would not have depression

[signal sundial]

so did adventure quest (holy fuck)

[proud vector]

Why

You invoke the deep names of nostalgic memory

The fucking dragon fable box fort aaaaAAAAAA

[late swallow]

Not a lot of tc going on today it seems hmm yesh yesh

[ocean hawk]

hehehe

[proud vector]

it’ll get a lot more busy with new characters

Or endgame

[late swallow]

I just want someone with a better brain than mine to cook an Arc dps team
I said I would do it... I didnt

[proud vector]

Arclight dps

Sounds sad

[signal sundial]

real

I have this too but i gues this one can wait

[ocean hawk]

well uhhh

raising phys team is a resource sink

coz all needs lvl 80

[signal sundial]

F

there's the f2p team as well

i just need to level endmin

[ocean hawk]

f2p ?

eh which team

since crush team also need all to be 80

[signal sundial]

chen/perl/endmin/ard

[ocean hawk]

oh

[open hare]

I forgot

[signal sundial]

like literal f2p

[ocean hawk]

well

[open hare]

Do I level up attack boost or strength boost for my lr

[signal sundial]

someone did no pulls team as well

chen/perl/endmin/pog

pog from the selector ofc

[open hare]

Whayssww

[weak meteor]

ark

ATK

[proud vector]

it’s like

Arclight just does

Hybrid damage

[open hare]

Wowowo

[proud vector]

Random ass physical combo skill

[open hare]

Why is that again?

[proud vector]

on an electrification unit