#theorycrafting

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sand rain
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P1 he can apply his debuff in general?

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I wouldn't know I don't read even though I have him at P1

cinder oxide
sand rain
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I only found out earlier today that Endmin's rock cancer can be broken by Pogchamp

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I thought the whole time Endmin had to be the one to break their rock cancer

cinder oxide
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Cool would never have it happen to my goat Da Pan

sand rain
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I am now a Da Pan slanderer

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Sorry y'all

cinder oxide
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Imagine not being able to generate your own vuln stacks

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Can’t be Da Pan

sand rain
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Imagine not being able to give ads rock cancer

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Can't be Endmin

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Imagine needing P5 to work

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Can't be Endmin

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Shhhh

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I have an agenda to spread

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I see you typing there

cinder oxide
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Da Pan p5 can nuke any mf solo with 3 upswings and a bonk

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That’s goated

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He rolls out of danger

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He’s cinema

calm field
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imagine your potential is lock by major patch

sand rain
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Either way I continue resisting the urge not to pull on Yvonne's banner or Gilberta's weapon banner

late swallow
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imagine working for the bad guys who slays the 'inhuman faction' to spread rock cancer

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not me

cinder oxide
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Imagine not being the guy who has a voice line I can’t find but I swear sounds like ‘You’re cooked’

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Cos that’s my guy

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Da Pan

noble tapir
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I spread rock cancer with love

cinder oxide
sand rain
late swallow
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i dont have a 'goat' i dont fanboy over 'people' I live my life hating Endfield industry

sand rain
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Fake endfield player

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I might struggle with farm animal taxonomy

boreal coral
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Is obj worth using over clan if not at 241 ult regen? For wulf

late swallow
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yes

boreal coral
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AbbyCry maybe my clan will become useful for a future unit

late swallow
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I want to use it tooooo, they should add weapon skins
not using thermite on anyone til it gets pretty

sand rain
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Probably as either the best 2nd or 3rd in slot weapon moving forwards

late swallow
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trust

sand rain
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I don't think it's going to be a matter of if it's going to be a matter of "when" and "to what extent"

dry kindle
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Me omw to open bilibili to more horni mods

modest thorn
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am i cooking or am i burning the food if i say its worth it to go for the dossier everytime

dry kindle
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F2ps cant

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So

modest thorn
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technically like 40 pulls to get 70 pulls

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that sounds pretty worth

dry kindle
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Cool

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F2ps cant

gritty olive
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tf happened here

modest thorn
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man tf is this attitude 💀

dry kindle
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You don't even hit 80 every banner 💀

modest thorn
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u don't need to tho the 80 continues to the next banner

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and chances are you're not even gonna go over 75

dry kindle
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Watch me

modest thorn
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but like lowk isn't it more ideal for f2ps?

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since they want to get as many 6 stars as possible

dry kindle
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Again

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F2ps cant

modest thorn
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since they can't go for p5s or anything

dry kindle
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You need to swipe

modest thorn
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they'd rather get 6 stars for half the price

dry kindle
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And no 120s means lol lmao rng

boreal coral
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Def not ideal for f2p bcsideeye

modest thorn
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ok well lets just talk about spenders then

boreal coral
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But for mid to high spenders I think it worth it purely for the extra arsenal tickets

modest thorn
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yeah true

dry kindle
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You can't even sustain quotas yet alone 40 pulls pre sure

modest thorn
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i just assumed f2p players wanted to maximize their pulls

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but ye i understand

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wdym sustain quotas

dry kindle
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You need 350 quotas every banner for the 5 pulls

modest thorn
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oh wait i forgot about those, is it also 25 for that?

dry kindle
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70

modest thorn
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aic quotas?

dry kindle
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4* tokens give 5 Idr what 5* give

modest thorn
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okay yeah u def can then so like 35 pulls for 70

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cause i forgot about those lol

dry kindle
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Nvm guess you get enough

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Still need like 38 pulls of oroberyl every banner 💀

modest thorn
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well more like 35 but yeah

dry kindle
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Too lazy to do the other cert math

modest thorn
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honestly idk what the pull economy is

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but it seems like its worth it for spenders

dry kindle
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Non-existent

modest thorn
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esp if ur buying the 10 pulls every banner

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12500 oroberyl every banner for 70 pulls drool

boreal coral
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How much does monthly and pp give?

dry kindle
dry kindle
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Unless you wanna spend op on pulls

modest thorn
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ok so ppl with monthly can 100% make it

dry kindle
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Then it's like uh

modest thorn
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6k from monthly and 6k from dailies a month

dry kindle
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2400 oroberyl

dry kindle
modest thorn
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and idk what else gives u oroberyls lmfao

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oh hmmm well surely theres something else that gives oroberyls lmfao

dry kindle
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Dailies

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Weeklys

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Umbral

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Rest is paid or patch and events

hard charm
modest thorn
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surely someone has done the math

dry kindle
modest thorn
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uhhh what is that saying lol

boreal coral
dry kindle
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This site a pain

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Aaa

modest thorn
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i swear i saw a document before of the pull economy

unreal light
hard charm
dry kindle
unreal light
hard charm
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That's not alltrollfacecreepysmile

dry kindle
unreal light
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the hell lmao

modest thorn
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oh i found this uhh

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yeah nvm this tells us nothing lmfao

dry kindle
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Yeah

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Also per patch not banner and it doesn't say 120 pulls

modest thorn
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ok i haven't kept up, have they said anything about when etching repeats

dry kindle
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💀

dry kindle
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But it's probably same time as banners

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Oh wait etching

modest thorn
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also in the original arknights do u know if they did the same thing where 3 new units come out every patch?

dry kindle
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Fuckin

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💀

modest thorn
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oh lol

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well i mean we are guaranteed (?) 3 6 stars next patch

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so thats 1800 oroberyls there 🔥

dry kindle
modest thorn
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at least i think thats what the quests have been giving me

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or what did lone wolf give me i forgot about that one

dry kindle
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Idr either

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💀

modest thorn
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ooh thanks

potent hornet
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2 hours for etching ticket resets

modest thorn
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.roadmap

modest thorn
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anyone know how many oroberyl's wulfguard gave?

dry kindle
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Probably 600

tranquil burrow
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600 iirc but I could be wrong

modest thorn
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hmmm.... so 2400 from new units per patch (maybe)

wind nebula
tranquil burrow
modest thorn
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hmmm i mean that might just be better since there'll be 2 banners

dry kindle
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If it is then ig you can 60 every banner

modest thorn
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is that including the 5 star

dry kindle
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I still wouldn't

modest thorn
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yooo wtf the connect and win thing gave 880 oroberyls again

heady pine
modest thorn
peak void
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the path ahead something something 🗣️ 🔥

modest thorn
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what is that, like 7k for free?

rose fjord
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how much SP regen does a final strike grant?

tranquil burrow
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We’re getting 880 for 4 days only

tranquil burrow
peak void
dry kindle
rose fjord
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i'm using LR

dry kindle
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30

rose fjord
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wow

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where did you find that info?

dry kindle
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Drugs

boreal coral
rose fjord
tranquil burrow
dry kindle
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Me when arclight has 5 energy combo because funny

rose fjord
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does it increase with M3 or stays at 30 from lvl 1?

dry kindle
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Stays

rose fjord
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thank you

modest thorn
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also do we know if every patch is 51 days?

tranquil burrow
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I don’t think so

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But we don’t know yet

dry kindle
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No idea

jaunty verge
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Do I need wulfgard if I have Ardelia for laev team?

modest thorn
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gotcha

potent hornet
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really i have to wait 23 days until the next protocol pass for sanity extractors

tranquil burrow
potent hornet
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i only have 2 left to fill 🙁

tranquil burrow
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Why fill

potent hornet
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the sanity discount at the end of the month

tranquil burrow
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That will be capped by attempts

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No point in hoarding sanity

potent hornet
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dumb

dry kindle
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If the devs are sane anyway

tranquil burrow
potent hornet
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why?

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its single player

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either way i'd rather have the bank for when i want to focus on grabbing something

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it will probably be to get a leav 3/3 essence

modest thorn
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does anyone know the exact amount link increases for ults and battle skills?

potent hornet
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20% first level i think

tranquil burrow
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1.2x and 1.3x respectively

potent hornet
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i may be wrong i think someone said it worked differently yesterday

tranquil burrow
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Link stacks additively with itself tho so Idk if it’s just duration or stronger effect

potent hornet
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it might be the 30-20

modest thorn
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hmmm, anyone know the arguments of akekuri vs gilberta in laevatain/wulfguard/ardelia?

heady pine
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Otherwise ppl would always rec akekuri

tranquil burrow
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And you typically replace Ardelia with Gilberta

modest thorn
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so if i have wulf i use gilb over akekuri?

tranquil burrow
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No, it depends

modest thorn
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hmmmm i do have to think about ardelia

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cause lowk im not feeling akekuri

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and i've been experimenting with gilb and it feels better but i might just be biased

tranquil burrow
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Do you have Gilb sig

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That’ll make Laev Wulf Ake Gilb very SP friendly

modest thorn
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nah i've been running stanza

tranquil burrow
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Works well enough

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As long as it’s not the BP weapon

modest thorn
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it doesn't feel like the team is that sp hungry tho tbh

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with ard/gilb/laev/wulf

tranquil burrow
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Ardelia debuff costs SP, Gilb is basically free

modest thorn
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also an interaction i've been thinking about is if i leave ult with a few stacks, i could gilb bs into wulf combo for 20 sp back and to trigger clannibal

dry kindle
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Returned sp

modest thorn
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i've never read obj why is this so recommended for him, is it just because of the ult regain?

dry kindle
modest thorn
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this looks terrible lmfao

modest thorn
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oh ok so ig def keep clannibal for that one edge case lol

modest thorn
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what happens in the video i can't tell lol

dry kindle
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7 ebs in 1 ult

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Its basically a meme but yeah

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Fuckin bili search Kannakms

modest thorn
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oh lol wtf 💀

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but yeah i am def liking the gilb build more specifically for that one case

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and cause i think her damage increase is the highest (?)

empty flower
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Bp weapon for Gilberta is good right? Or just run stanza

peak void
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Stanza

dry kindle
modest thorn
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hmmmm gilb does seem way better than ake

warm galleon
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Thinking of giving gilb an art intensity set

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Atm she's at 72 art 193.7% ult gain.

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Ohh I'm only going to lose 29.6 ult for more arts

errant ridge
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GUYS should I roll stagger for WUlfgard? and get swordmancer set for laevatain team?

peak void
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tf

errant ridge
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well that's what Gemini insists

heady pine
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peak void
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Because its a dumb ai

errant ridge
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so SP SP for wulfgard and akekuri?

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UGE i mean

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or whatever the stat is called

heady pine
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Yeah

twilit quail
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aetherGPT generate me an endfield team

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mmmmm

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grand vision chen

potent hornet
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spent some time fiddling with my factory,

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best i could get

peak void
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lots of ferrium and amethyst unused

potent hornet
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yea i'm usure what to pump it into

dry kindle
peak void
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i do 18/18 buckA/batt, then 24 citromeC

dry kindle
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Its overkill but whatever

peak void
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i have 20 originium leftover so i use it for power

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not that i need it since im 5.6/5.7 without it, but its a nice buffer ig

modest thorn
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lol right that is something u can do

peak void
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if your zips/turrets are unoptimal tho, i can see ppl appreciating the 100 extra power

errant ridge
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I turned off all the ore mining rigs on amethyst after I capped everything I could make with amethyst

peak void
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you cant cap on citromeC

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at least not that easily

bronze plume
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my follow people

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how are we

potent hornet
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how many orbs do you non pullers have built up?

summer flower
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So is it good idea to get out sub DPS for arderlia if i have 3 other operators built for damage?

unkempt apex
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How many thermal is that

potent hornet
potent hornet
frozen tide
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How do you manage 11 usage

weak meteor
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i ve been trying to snipe eminent essence for about 5 days now and i think haimao is inside my system and perventing me from getting anything but the thing i want

potent hornet
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one of my HC factories just dumps striaght into a protocol stash

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the other rototates

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into a thermal bank

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i can't turn off the other hc factory or i run out of power

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if i turn off one of my sc thermals i also am just short on power

frozen tide
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Oh its blue battery usage

potent hornet
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yea blues

frozen tide
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Huh is blue battery less stock valley bill wasted per power

potent hornet
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that was my guess

frozen tide
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Than purps

potent hornet
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i didn't run any numbers but i figured the more i could run off the smallest battery ther mor money i should be able to get

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i only use 2 of the 12 hcs i make

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so 10/min of just profit

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unsure what the "mega" factories are putting out but this should work for me

frozen tide
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Mega factories are like 18 18 purples and another 18 blues

potent hornet
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if i feel the need to i will go copy somones

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i pieced this together with random bps

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560 is the most you can get for orginium yea?

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in valley?

unkempt apex
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I have 18 hc 12 capsule

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Its enuff to feed me each day

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The rest of the base i use it for experiment on splitter

frozen tide
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Are you applying electric engineerings thingy to endfield

unkempt apex
haughty quail
frozen tide
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Yeah

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Not that it matters since 18 18 already out produces stock gen

unkempt apex
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U can make 18 capsule a alongside 18 hc?

frozen tide
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Yeah

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You need every ferrium mined

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And have purity up

dawn patrol
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damn i'm only making 18 12

humble matrix
dawn patrol
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it's still enough to absolutely clear out the outposts but

unkempt apex
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I mean i cap 18 12

open hare
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Dang, I wish I had 18 18

frozen tide
peak void
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hi yall

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maybe i should switch over to 18/12 too

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i wanna craft more steel parts (i have 30k already but want more lol)

shrewd patrol
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What y'all be talking about some 18 12

frozen tide
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talm bout sum

karmic tusk
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cursed ah physical rotation 🙏

neat thunder
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What the hell am i looking at

shrewd patrol
karmic tusk
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lol

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end axis

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website

dapper mason
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hi, is this shop same for everyone everyday/week ? if yes, how many stanza did i miss since day1 if i only have p0 stanza rn ?

quaint matrix
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oh is this for me?

summer flower
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Yea, Arsenal tickets are nice but 75% or more discount on tcredits is better

quaint matrix
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it's so good to get 1/100 of a pull

summer flower
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At least when you still upgrading operators

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Expected by me amount is one oberyl purchase and one Arsenal purchase daily

dawn patrol
chilly bolt
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The system is alright

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It's the earn rate of the currency

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Which is not ok

outer ermine
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Hold Ultimate → auto-switch operator → jump attack → Repeat to keep rising

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steady gate
frozen tide
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one i think

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unless i missed one myself

steady gate
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Do we get one for free?

dapper mason
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😭

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i only got 1 from node level 7 reward

steady gate
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My notes say Jan 28 and Jan 31.

frozen tide
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maybe i missed the 28 one then

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you do get one for free from stock

chilly bolt
craggy pond
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i've already gotten close to like 400-500 arsenal tickets in total from that shop and not a single oroberyl

open hare
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Unlucky

steady gate
open hare
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I've seen more oroberyls than arsenal tickets

craggy pond
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it actually drops an unusually large amount of arsenal tickets for me

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i've been getting like 40-60 daily for a week now PerliFumo

open hare
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Im still poor

dawn shard
open hare
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Then super jump gets patched

dawn shard
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I mean now that its shown off theres a good chance itll be gone before shes even on banner

open hare
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People cant even gatekeep lmao

dawn shard
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Sucks that they are so quick about patching this stuff. Sure its broken, but it allows to make some funny ziplines

rich linden
craggy pond
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nobody knows for sure PerliFumo

rich linden
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:C

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hyperglaze would never do taht

civic trail
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In terms of getting rare prog materials, which would be more efficient sanity wise, Re-Crisis (boss fights/120 sanity) or Crisis Drills (80 sanity)? I'm leaning on the latter

craggy pond
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ig it just depends on which one is more comfy or the secondary random drops

covert fiber
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Ops wrong send

dawn shard
frozen tide
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if a game that just released

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gave 5000s oro or equivalent premium currency for every bug they found

open hare
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It would be great

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Or would it

slim spire
weak meteor
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true

valid zealot
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What the command for calling mods.

quaint matrix
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He’s already gone

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Dead

frozen tide
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<@&956153874383781928>

peak void
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mmm theorycrafting

valid zealot
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I should make a gif of Pog ult but with discord moderators instead of shieldguards.

ashen scroll
crude crag
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.umbral

summer flower
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Why the heck jump tech is requiring them both!!!

eternal ruin
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.roadmap

umbral galleon
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What do you guys use sanity for on average is it mostly upgrade mats/credits?

proud vector
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I kinda spent a lot early on credits because I didn’t want to farm for mats

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From what I hear a lot gets dumped into etching for 5-5-3 essences or 6-6-3 essences

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You do get a lot of upgrade materials kinda naturally through quests and whatnot rewards

twin plover
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I dump it on creds, sometimes purple skill mats since I don't have essences to etch rn and I feel like having lots of these two could be useful

worn field
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chat what is the chance of upgrading essence for each level?

quaint matrix
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i'm broke

rare zodiac
woeful sphinx
umbral galleon
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PerliFumo guess time to figure out the most optimal route before the march sanity event

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PerliWheeze gonna dump all my sanity potions then

twin plover
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Unless this was the case in og AK (haven't played myself) I insanely highly doubt they won't put a cap on how many double runs you can do.

umbral galleon
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PerliWaaaaa noooooo

drifting quest
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it'll be hoyo style

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x runs per day

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likely 3

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probably only available for certain stages too

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anything 80 cost i would expect

umbral galleon
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Hopefully essences included

twin plover
dawn patrol
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i'm making sanity syrup rn to save for event hopefully it'll be enough to 6/6/3 laev essence

drifting quest
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trimmed medals

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rhodagn is the go to punching bag for testing

quaint matrix
twin plover
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Ok aside from that and speedruns lol

quaint matrix
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i think i'm gonna start saving some sanity just in case

drifting quest
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these events are always designed so natural f2p stamina can fully access them

twin plover
umbral galleon
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Probably 2x rewards

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Its easier for players to participate that way less time investment

dawn patrol
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half cost is diabolical, double the farming time it is then

twin plover
drifting quest
umbral galleon
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PerliWaaaaa guess i'll use my BP stamina items for something else

twin plover
dawn patrol
twin plover
dawn patrol
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been watching a lot of re challenge runs lately, the commentary is pretty nice even without video

grand lagoon
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less manual labor = better

twin plover
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That's like a "everything went wrong" scenario + idk if it will be 3 runs even but half cost feels safer

grand lagoon
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but, isnt like most ppl will already hoarded syrup PerliFumo

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plus, i just dont want moreeee manual labor

twin plover
grand lagoon
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imagine repeating the same shit over and over again

umbral galleon
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Could use the tickets

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Do people even use those PerliWheeze

grand lagoon
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it will eventually run out real fast

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and then the 600K one....

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the real endgame ticket

umbral galleon
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Tbf after buying out the shop the valley 4 bills are pretty worthless aside from essence tickets

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I wish they could have given out like 1 standard pull per week PerliWheeze or month for like 5m or something

twin plover
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I'm currently at ~100 tickets but I hoard these for days I will really want to skip.

dawn patrol
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i have no tickets bc i keep spending them all

twin plover
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And people are complaining that the highest level costs 80 sanity

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Half the sanity, half the rewards and you end up with twice as much time spent

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No thanks

rugged vale
bold rose
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Is it true that Jincao drink is better than Yazhen syringe as a consumable

twin plover
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Jincao is instant 1278, Yazhen is 320 per s for 6 s so 1920 total. I like yazhen more + there could be scenarios where either would be better.

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Tho in general I don't use either

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Okaaay, I'm not deep in the healing consumable meta but if reddit doesn't lie to me, this text under jincao means that your off-field characters can use it on the one you control once per battle so could use yazhen for your on-fielder and jincao for the others

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(it really does not matter just dodge smh)

dawn patrol
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huh ig it doesn't

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odd

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i always thought it did

twin plover
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The healing over-time ones probably don't have it

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Cause it's the same for Buck vs Citrome

dawn patrol
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might switch to jincao once we get better ones

frozen tide
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accidentally pulled jet from khrav banner

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what do i do with this brick

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i dont have avy built and dont even have her p5

dawn patrol
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it's a surprise tool that'll help you later

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(i hope)

ashen scroll
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What if they suddenly release hard mode that require fully build 4 ops PerliWheeze

umbral galleon
frozen tide
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you dont need p5

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its just i already dont rly wanna build another team

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i have laev and havent built her

icy ginkgo
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yvonne is so cheeks

frozen tide
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she is and has em

summer flower
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I have avy p5

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It just happened

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Somehow

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And one emblem i got from requestion i also got surplus, so that wasnt required

summer flower
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But i don't think you can farm thorny

peak void
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arknights

summer flower
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?

ocean hawk
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free crown

summer flower
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Ohh

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I have plenty of crowns

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I didnt Really master skills

dawn patrol
ocean hawk
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iirc I only use 2

summer flower
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I probably should master some endim, maybe some ember

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But tcredits and purple skill thingies

next helm
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I don't want to use the special items

open hare
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Cheek

peak void
peak void
open hare
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Qyurii

next helm
peak void
next helm
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Let me keep these as mementos

open hare
summer flower
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There is no craftable thorny yanhzen plot

open hare
peak void
#

this particular miku is a little fat yes

open hare
#

I think Miku is eating a little big

peak void
#

she is also eating uhh

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fucking 1/4 of her size

open hare
#

Dont worry, I fed her a variety of sushi before I ordered 16 tuna rolls

#

We ate 28 plates of sushi

peak void
#

holy shit how did u not get tired of it

#

i can eat like 3 and dip

open hare
open hare
peak void
#

its PRETTY BIG

open hare
#

Everything taste good and we have a whole menu

peak void
#

or maybe the sushis i eat are pretty small

open hare
#

If it aint in japan

#

It's kinda shit

rugged kiln
#

Xiranite chest or bonekrusha chest for gilberta?

open hare
#

Sushi wise

peak void
#

Havent been there so i guess ill take ur word for it

#

makes sense anw too

peak void
open hare
#

I mean

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Swordfish

peak void
#

have u tried eel sushi

#

shits kinda crazy

open hare
#

Defo

rugged kiln
peak void
#

honestly i have no idea, just got her like 2 days ago

open hare
#

Eel is kinda meh

#

It tastes good, but the texture for me kinda kills it

#

Also gotta be careful of bones just in case

#

They cant get every bone

peak void
#

the texture is a bit of an acquired taste icl

open hare
#

What you shouldn't try is natto beans

peak void
#

lmao

open hare
#

The smell and texture for me makes me want to die

peak void
#

it is fermented

#

yet another acquired taste

open hare
#

I tasted both so yeah

#

It's my opinion

dawn patrol
open hare
#

Eel would be better than natto beans

#

All the nigiri is good

peak void
open hare
#

Albacore Tuna tastes pretty good and it has a creamy like texture to it

dawn patrol
peak void
#

okay what can we theorycraft in 10 mins

dawn patrol
#

tamagoyaki nigiri is kinda baller

open hare
#

BRB Qyurii, gotta take a shower

open hare
peak void
#

okay 👋

proud vector
#

does link work with status at all? like burst/crush/reacts

dawn patrol
peak void
dawn patrol
open hare
#

Trying sushi outside of Japan for me was always ass

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Except this one Korean restaurant I always went to

dawn patrol
#

i mean one of my distant relative runs a japanese restaurant and it was good

peak void
#

like im really picky with it

open hare
#

Got me a coin purse, ngl its fire

peak void
#

the way its served on nigiri just aint for me

open hare
#

Also sushi is cheap af here

#

So

dawn patrol
peak void
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like its always so dry 😭

dawn patrol
#

like they're quick and easy and yum

peak void
#

yea but

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i just

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idk

dawn patrol
open hare
#

Man, if you arent eating sushi in Japan. It's just not right

#

Or the restaurant is ass

#

The prices are like $20 for four pieces of the small rolls

#

Like what

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Brb

peak void
#

its kinda sad

#

now egg social credit is all time low

next helm
#

I don't know why people mention the summon income is bad

#

1.0 and I can get 2 guarantees

dawn patrol
#

it's bc it's launch patch

#

renewable income is abysmal

#

doubly worse for arsenal tickets

dawn patrol
peak void
#

chili oil is just too good tho

#

thats kinda cheating ICANT

#

add garlic too

#

faaahh

dawn patrol
#

soft scramble would go kinda hard too methinks

peak void
#

soft scramble does go hard icl

#

but like whenever someone makes me a scramble its hard

#

istg

upbeat igloo
#

You need help

dawn patrol
#

for liking soft scramble or

upbeat igloo
#

What does icl mean?

dawn patrol
#

i can't lie

upbeat igloo
#

They need help bc it’s in their profile

open hare
#

Whay

next helm
#

Is umbral 2nd phase a week early?

dawn patrol
dire nymph
#

heard it moved to the 22nd

frozen tide
#

plz be 22nd

#

i need that oro for gilb pity

dire nymph
#

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dawn patrol
#

should i edge my pity on yvonne banner or wait till rossi

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bc idc about yvonne

dire nymph
#

put the rossi in the bag

next helm
#

What is your pity?

elder skiff
#

rossi cuz bumvonne ain’t worth it

dawn patrol
#

i'm like 38 from guaranteed

next helm
#

Cause it gets dangerous at 64+

peak void
#

🤷

open hare
#

I thought you were sleeping in 10 mind Eva 02

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Mins

peak void
#

I thought u took a shower

#

Guess we're all thinking things huh

open hare
#

I just took a shower

peak void
#

sasuga theorycrafting channel

#

oh

#

well shit i cant defend u now eva

#

u on ur own

open hare
#

Wait, it took me 5 mins to shower?

#

That's crazy

dawn patrol
#

i was supposed to be sleepy by now but i'm not so idk

#

ig i'm staying up for a while

open hare
#

Where tf is this miku model

#

It's too good

main sand
#

rate my blue print

#

🐒

topaz pendant
dire nymph
topaz pendant
dawn patrol
frozen tide
#

she is damn cute

#

❤️

open hare
#

Gilberta

#

Please

#

Stop taking my last rite stacks

twilit quail
#

you see

#

if you dont press the abilities

#

like an idiot

#

you dont lose the stacks

frozen tide
#

😭

#

im sure he knows iana

#

just cracking a joke

open hare
#

I was making a joke

#

Im not dumb enough to let gil take lr stacks

peak void
#

i let gil take my laeva stacks

dire nymph
#

i press wulf's skill since it glows

peak void
#

kinda, combustion works anw idk

frozen tide
#

i hate wulf

#

his kit pmo

twilit quail
#

the ice player fears the actually good applier

dawn patrol
open hare
#

Can I just slap gilberta on my lr team ngl

drifting quest
frozen tide
#

no good applies should exist in the game

open hare
#

Just akekuri, xaihi, ardelia, and last rite lmao

#

Wiat

#

Gilberta instead of akekuri

#

Idk

drifting quest
#

gilb goes over ardelia

#

if you're doing it

open hare
#

Man. I should eat the stacks then let it rip for the ult

drifting quest
#

you just gilb ult after lr consumes the stacks

twilit quail
#

gilb + ard is not actually completely ill

#

somehow

drifting quest
#

isnt it just less than ake

#

workable ofc but

twilit quail
#

ake sucks

drifting quest
open hare
#

Akekuri gives me many buffs

#

Even for LR

twilit quail
#

ok so

#

link is obviously only for ult

#

and

#

lr's talent description is misleading

drifting quest
#

its what
10+8% attack + link
vs
20-28% suscept + 16% damage taken

#

i dont know how ard suscept interacts with both gilb and last rites

#

since every suscept is coded differently for whatever reason

open hare
#

Idk

drifting quest
#

and some stack some dont

twilit quail
#

ok so

#

LR's talent suscept boost is not only limited to cryo suscept

#

do you see where Im going with this

drifting quest
#

yeah its coded as an extra multiplier on the suscept if it includes cryo

#

x1.5 on the suscept

twilit quail
#

ake is just strictly worse in all scenarios

#

even if you have to go to ult she doesnt win

drifting quest
#

they do all stack then

#

all 3

#

?

open hare
#

My cryo Susceptibility stacks with ardelias Susceptibility

#

Just dies out so quick on me

twilit quail
#

ok so

#

ake is not fighting with either gil or ard for the spot

#

that's just not happening

#

she is fighting with perlica

#

and is actually just strictly worse than perlica in current opti

open hare
#

I mean the forced electric is nice

#

But the sp return is nice for me

drifting quest
#

i mean yeah the team's always been like
lr xaihi stanza flex
i guess
stanza holder either ard gilb or perlica
flex another one of the above or akekuri

#

id have to look at the math i guess for ake vs perlica

#

but i can see why ard gilb is good if they do stack and its confirmed

open hare
#

I don't have stanza lmak

#

My team is ass

#

One second

#

Let me show this

#

After I get my delivers

twilit quail
#

also fluorite is not complete dogshit

drifting quest
#

always been the cope option

twilit quail
#

with ard p1 and gil p2

#

suscept bracket is actually being diluted noticeably

#

which is funny to think about

frozen tide
#

cause it lets you skip to 3 or 4 stack cryo rly fast

twilit quail
#

it's overall loss

#

without extra buffer you either like

#

cant kill with the one combo

frozen tide
#

yeah theres actually no appliers for cyo

twilit quail
#

and if you have to go to ult it's also worse than others

#

oh god 30 minute unsubtitled basically unedited video

dry kindle
frozen tide
#

ur a whel

#

what concerns you

dry kindle
#

Mf I can't even pull gilb sig

frozen tide
#

110 pulls in still no gilb

dry kindle
#

L

#

Whel

lime bear
frozen tide
#

im getting the 120 one way or another

#

i am not giving up on her

#

need 20 more pulls cause 10 was emergency recruit

open hare
#

Just tested ardelia, gil, and xaihi

#

If I can time it right and all that. I can do some major dmg

#

Just did 450k+ with a ult

drifting quest
#

oh right

open hare
#

I think I did 800k+ dmg overall

drifting quest
#

does anyone have chiv

#

ard and gilb

open hare
#

Thats without food

#

Nope

drifting quest
#

apparently they work now

open hare
#

I didn't get chiv

#

That would be great for my xaihi though

#

Wait nvm

frozen tide
#

what u talkin about shuo

#

whos chiv good for

inland prawn
#

.

frozen tide
#

.

open hare
#

Ard and gil or something like that

#

Cause of the heal right?

drifting quest
#

chiv working on ardelia and gilb

frozen tide
#

🤔

#

how does it work on gilb

drifting quest
#

before (i was told) it didnt work on them

#

i dont own a chiv so i cant test

#

now (im being told) it does work on both of them

frozen tide
#

this is the only source of her heals right

drifting quest
#

yes

#

id expect ardelia still doesnt work but gilb does

#

and whoever told me it doesnt work on gilb LIED

frozen tide
#

oh is it bugged

#

or was

drifting quest
#

no its like

frozen tide
#

is that what youre talking about

drifting quest
#

ardelia heals on her talent

frozen tide
#

mhm

drifting quest
#

gilb upgrades the combo and skill

#

hence chiv wont proc on ard but will on gilb

#

but i was told it didnt work on either before

frozen tide
#

i didnt even know it didnt work on ard

drifting quest
#

i mean it might work on ard

open hare
#

So does it work on both now?

drifting quest
#

i dont own a chiv to test

#

thats why im asking someone who has all 3 to test

#

so i can know going forward

frozen tide
#

i can test ard if you want

#

but gilb i have yet to get

#

im gonna make it happen tho

#

before banner ends

tranquil burrow
#

I'm rooting for you

drifting quest
#

testing either case helps

#

as said id expect it always worked on gilb, never worked on ard

#

but i keep getting told misleading things

#

but cannot test myself

open hare
#

I have gilb but no chiv

tranquil burrow
#

I have all 3 but i'm at work PerliFumo

frozen tide
#

i have lvl 60 p0 no essence chiv

open hare
#

I wish I had chiv

tranquil burrow
#

Why can't I be here

open hare
#

Cause the

tranquil burrow
#

🧱

tranquil burrow
twilit quail
#

ok so
if you have to do 3 combo > ult > 3 combo > 4 combo > ult gil wins by ~1%
if you enter with no energy and do 3 combo > 4 combo > ult ard wins by 0.2%

drifting quest
#

stanza on both or sig v sig

twilit quail
#

sig sig

#

the more important takeaway however is that

drifting quest
#

fair

twilit quail
#

you shouldnt use gil if you have no hands

#

from a practical perspective

#

and so that makes it lose a lot of value

#

for many people

next helm
#

define hands

tight haven
#

technical know-how

#

not just spamming skills or not positioning yourself properly

#

keeping appropriate timing in mind so enemies dont just run out of gilbs field

next helm
#

Yeah that I understand

#

but what is it exactly you can fuck up a lot

tranquil burrow
#

when even the training dummy can jump out of the field lel

twilit quail
#

ok and with 3/4 combo > ult for kill gil is also very slightly better

next helm
#

For yvonne for example you want gilbs ult duration at the good portion of your ult

#

Thats easy to understand

tight haven
#

i abused this in my umbral sub 1s to allow laev to get to 4 stacks while still procing corrosion on the first wave of enemies

next helm
#

I know for Laev wulf ake gilb

#

That you I use gilbertas bskill after the first batk it lines up nice

dry mason
tight haven
#

yeah it usually does

next helm
#

laev batk 1 -> gilb bskill -> ake bskill -> heat on everything when you hit batk 5, wulf explosion gilb explosion everything coroded -> laev bskill (optional gilb ult)

tight haven
#

How Does She Do It

next helm
#

I don't know if that is good

tight haven
#

you wont have gilb ult up without precharging with just 2 bskills

next helm
#

but it does well in aoe

tight haven
#

in any case gilb is just more difficult to use than ardelia or even antal was the point

#

but i do think shes a very worthy consideration even in single-target scenarios

#

never ever having to use bskill on her is very comfy

frigid vector
#

can run some tests

#

hm I need to hit multiple enemies for the heal on gilberta though, guess I can try in umbral

oak vigil
#

Stupid question:
Does this mean Oblivion DOESN'T stack damage if I used both ultimate and combo or does this mean that both of these effects have seperate rundown time?

frigid vector
#

even at max HP, using her battle skill and hitting multiple enemies triggers an atk increase buff

frozen tide
#

What

#

You don't actually need to heal for chiv?

frigid vector
#

goes from 266 to 290

#

no gear equipped over than chivalric virtues

frozen tide
#

That's crazy

#

I thought it had to actually heal

frigid vector
#

since I have it at p0, that's 9% attack, which aligns with the increase

next helm
#

Classic doesn't load bug

frozen tide
#

Wait

drifting quest
#

i got lied to

frozen tide
#

Would the same not apply to xai because she has separate triggers for full hp teammate vs not

#

Or does it work the same

narrow rover
#

Guys am I just lucky or are farming for 3/3 stats at Alluvium easy? If so, doesnt that mean it's fine to feed the 3/3 essences from weapons you dont own yet?

frozen tide
#

If you plan to own a weap

#

Plan around it

#

If not its up to you but i wouldn't bother

next helm
#

3/3 isn't that rare

#

To upgrade its 5%

frozen tide
#

@frigid vector can you check if chiv works on xai when target is full hp if ur still on

frigid vector
#

doesn't seem to work for ardelia if her HP is full

twin plover
#

I tend to keep ones that have initially upgraded stats (eg. 3/3/1) and aren't bricked with 2x skill stat etc. the rest depends on whether I plan to get the weapon it's 3/3 for or not

narrow rover
# next helm To upgrade its 5%

thanks! I asked cuz it's a pain to keep cross-referencing through the menus and compare essences you own and weapons you dont own

frozen tide
next helm
#

Why would you throw away good essences tho?

frozen tide
#

Her sheep don't count as her healing or smth

next helm
#

Like duplicates are fine, but if you have a good one just keep it

frigid vector
#

even when healing

#

it doesn't seem to do anything to ardelia whatsoever

frozen tide
#

Every combination

frigid vector
frozen tide
#

Yeah I'm guessing it counts as the sheep healing or smth stupid

narrow rover
frozen tide
#

Can you check if it works on xai for full hp teammates lin

summer flower
#

Yea, i doubt you going to gain more essences that required to full upgrade while farming for specific

drifting quest
#

yeah ardelia heals off talent only

#

gilb upgrades skill adn combo so should work

broken shale
#

for endmin is there any mastery that's worth it besides skill?

distant python
#

Combo is nice for longer duration

frigid vector
#

she gets both the amp from her skill and the atk % buff

distant python
#

Skill isn't even that worth it because the damage mostly comes from crush, which is affected by character level and arts intensity not skill level

frigid vector
frozen tide
broken shale
#

i thought it was related to mastery as well

twilit quail
#

bs m3 💀

frozen tide
#

Ult mastery increases both ult dmg itself and crystal pop

frozen tide
next helm
distant python
#

Most masteries are the same as just upgrading the skill normally

twilit quail
#

the crystal consumption multiplier is not affected by ult level

#

it just becomes ult damage when popped by ult

#

you still need to m3 combo for 400%

narrow rover
#

sigh

broken shale
#

so ult and combo skill are the only decent upgrades for endmin?

distant python
#

Certain masteries increase duration or reduce combo skill upgrade

#

But

frozen tide
next helm
distant python
#

Ult bonus multiplier requires crystal but is seperate from the actual crystal consumption multiplier on combo skill I think

summer flower
twilit quail
#

ult dmg

#

additional ult dmg

#

crystals

frozen tide
#

Ah

#

I see

summer flower
#

Wait.

frozen tide
summer flower
#

Is skill having crystal pop ?

broken shale
#

thats really confusing

twilit quail
#

this is how we get 800+400+600 for 1800% total

frozen tide
#

Ty for clearing it up didn't know it works that way

narrow rover
distant python
#

The reason you want to pop crystal with endmin is cause of the SP return and the attack buff you get

next helm
summer flower
distant python
#

Ideally the longer you can keep it on the better though since you get phy damage amp on people who have crystal attacked

next helm
#

There are websites btw that can make it easy for you

summer flower
narrow rover
#

oki

distant python
#

But the only big hit that really takes advantage without consuming the crystal is like Chen ult or finishers

next helm
#

You can "roll" for multiple weapons essences at the same time for example

narrow rover
#

I guess ill just note pad every 6* wep i want then

#

for 3/3

distant python
#

Datafield is the site I use

frozen tide
#

Chen is so good

narrow rover
next helm
#

You do know that you can upgrade essences right

frozen tide
narrow rover
next helm
#

Alright

distant python
#

More weapons use crit rate than crusher

frozen tide
#

Huh what comp u run dark

#

Do you use ember or smth

next helm
#

I would look at the weapon you want to farm, and check what other weapons you can do at the same time

#

In wuling for Laev for example you can farm like 5 weapons

distant python
#

Ember, endmin, pog, lifeng it looks like

summer flower
#

Based

distant python
#

I have no pog yet

#

I use Chen instead

#

No breach is quite depression tbh

frozen tide
#

No chen is depression also

#

Chen pog are the backbone of phys