theorycrafting

[tight haven]

1 sec

[drifting quest]

The wiki changed like 5 times already

[potent hornet]

anyone have some farming routes for ginsing on the overworld?

[drifting quest]

This is why I ask

[tight haven]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Corrosion

[potent hornet]

thats pretty cool

dot team when?

[tight haven]

routes?

just put them in your farm!

[daring dove]

Anyway Ardelia's upto 48% shred now, need one more potential on her weapon to hit 50% shred mark. Her weapon banner hasn't treated me kindly at all her.

[frozen tide]

theres 3 sources of ginseng in overworld right

[potent hornet]

i have stuff in the farm

[frozen tide]

just grab those 3 ig

[potent hornet]

but i need to collect more to get the bp

i'm not waiting hours for it

oof really?

[frozen tide]

they probs regrow slow af

[potent hornet]

thats rough

i'm also going around to grab the other stuff to finish out the collections on them

[craggy pond]

wait wdym shred

[frozen tide]

i might deadass pull ard banner for the box

not now but maybe in the far future

[daring dove]

Her weapon works like shred as well, it's just arts shred. She naturally provides upto 28 shred with P1 for both phy & arts.

[frozen tide]

shred vuln fragile

[daring dove]

But assuming she's in a arts team with P1 + P5 weapon she'd be providing 56% shred.

[frozen tide]

beautiful

[craggy pond]

isn't shred in reference to corrosion since it actually shreds resistance

[daring dove]

Actually you could say greater than 56% shred, since 28 + 28% is going to be less diluted.

[craggy pond]

i mean i don't think it works that way though? Each of those are a separate multiplier so assuming no external source it's just 1.28 * 1.2 in your case currently

[daring dove]

Usually due to how things work if two stats do exactly the same thing & say both provide a 28% bonus to damage it's better for them to be two seperate multipliers. Rather than 1 whole.

Less chance of said stat being diluted.

[heavy fossil]

I was bored so I tried a vanguard team (perlica arclight akekuri alesh) and while I am doing basically no damage, I gotta admit it is ridiculously fun

[craggy pond]

well yeah i was mainly referring to your 48% since that would assume they're additive but they aren't

[ornate pendant]

Pelica is a vanguard?

[craggy pond]

no

[heavy fossil]

no, but she is necessary for the other 3 to work. And can’t slot in pog cause he needs another phys unit to work

[ornate pendant]

Makes sense

[daring dove]

Well 48% is an easier way of saying it, realistically it's better than 48% currently as it's as we've said two seperate multipliers rather than 1 whole. That said when the values are this low there isn't much dilution to worry about anyway.

[craggy pond]

it's just constant skill spam i'd assume

[heavy fossil]

yeah, and cause I haven’t fully upgraded them the sp recovery is only gonna get better. Although alesh isn’t really contributing as much as i’d like

maybe if he had better sp recovery in general

[frozen tide]

Just hit the fish

[shrewd root]

anyone know why iana's sheet for endmin-phys recs chen to be on 4pc swordmancers (chest gives arts intensity on stat 3) over bonecrushers armor or poncho which give combo skill% and ult gain respectively?

[dry kindle]

More lift stagger numbers ig

[shrewd root]

i see

[heavy fossil]

yeah true

[frozen tide]

Lmfao pog 3 piece pulsar

I hate that it makes perfect sense

[quaint matrix]

oh

umbral phase 2 has been moved to 22th

6 days till umbral second phase

extra 2 pulls lesgoo

[heavy fossil]

when was it originally?

[shrewd root]

the 20-26 arts int. you get from it increeases lift stag by 10-13%, lift has like what, a 10 stagger base value? so itd turn it into 11-11.3 stagger value on lift proc, how is that worth it at all??

[quaint matrix]

i dunno you can check ingame calendar

[heavy fossil]

was it supposed to be earlier or later?

[quaint matrix]

later

a lot later

[pure spoke]

But why?

Did too many ppl complain about no events?

[dry kindle]

Idk I don't play phys

[shrewd root]

wasnt phase 2 supposed to be the 24-26th? i dont think a few days is a lot

[heavy fossil]

yo is there anyone I can replace alesh with to increase my skills per second?

[quaint matrix]

oh rly? i though it's a lot later

nvm then

but they moved it a bit closer

[shrewd root]

nah it was supposed to be when yvonne banner pulled up iirc

[pure spoke]

26th

[tight haven]

its alright to change it but the current rotations iana's assuming just see it putting out more damage in a vacuum

thats the reason its on the sheet that way

[heavy fossil]

wait nvm I guess I can just give them all fortmaker 💀

[tight haven]

4pc swordmancer on chen is just the best assuming p0 pog, p0 lifeng, p2 endmin/p5 dapan, p5 chen and p5 sundered/p0 rapid ascent on chen

[pure spoke]

I felt like the pull economy was from exploring and side missions. Maybe im trippin

[shrewd root]

i suppose, but im hard pressed for a single point of stagger value to be impactful for the extra dmg in a vacuum as opposed to js straight up more ults or a large combo skill dmg bonus

like literally one single point of stagger value

uno

1

[tight haven]

the thing is you dont actually get more ults

[shrewd root]

one

singular

[tight haven]

from more charge rate

the breakpoint doesnt realistically exist

[shrewd root]

yeah ik

its chill

however

[tight haven]

youre going to generate more ult energy but it wont cause you to ult faster

[shrewd root]

combo skill dmg bonus

in exchange for: 1 stagger

https://tenor.com/view/1-one-neon-gif-13896652005655995390

that number right there

that much stagger

[tight haven]

it apparently matters a whole lot for iana's rotation

i don't buy it either

phys is pretty non-euclidean rn

[stable inlet]

Anyone know how Laevatain ultimate charge works (or in general?)
Are combos/CS + empowered skill/EBS the only sources of ult charge?
EBS is 100 ult charge, CS is 25 ult charge, ult is 300 at P0
2EBS + 1 CS is 225, with Tidefall 16% = 261, but I'm able to hit 300 ult charge somehow
2EBS + 3 CS is 275 with Lynx but still able to hit 300 ult charge
I'm so confused

[shrewd root]

i wish there was a way to see its impact

[pure spoke]

Isnt that iana doc just 1 random guy ? Using his gut feelings?

[tight haven]

you can ask iana for his justifications

[shrewd root]

iirc iana was a very popular and accurate tcer from OG arknights

at least thats what i was told

[pure spoke]

Whats tcer?

[green acorn]

from what I've seen it's all mostly based on calcs

[shrewd root]

have not seen that dude once in here

[tight haven]

i can tell you we do test his stuff here and he gathers intel from cn players

[shrewd root]

theorycrafter

the people who do the math

[daring dove]

How do people rate Lifeng, I heard he has good potentials. But I haven't used him at all yet.

[pure spoke]

I dont see the calculations tho

[shrewd root]

ah so thats why hes js not here

kek

[pure spoke]

But i trust theorycrafter more than myself

[shrewd root]

i trust numbers

i have seen

[tight haven]

again you can ask him what his base assumptions are

[shrewd root]

no numbers

except

!

1

!

WOW

[tight haven]

plus he posted timelines in the phys portion of the doc

[shrewd root]

im staring at them

i dont see

any stagger value

or

stagger in general

actually

[daring dove]

You can make numbers show almost any result you want. What matters are correct assumptions going in.

[shrewd root]

i think this is wholely a staggerless doc

[shrewd root]

you know what i meant, this is not the time for semantics

this is time for

https://tenor.com/view/number-1-fire-gif-75624632996465874

stagger value

[tight haven]

bro lmao just like

dm or ping the dude

[shrewd root]

nah i dont wna interrupt his holiday

[tight haven]

@twilit quail yo why are you using swordmancer chest on chen

[shrewd root]

LMAO

[tight haven]

instead of the cskill chest

iana was here like 4 hours ago its chill

[shrewd root]

oh tight

[tight haven]

hes been on holiday for like a week

[shrewd root]

that is how holidays usually work yeah

[tight haven]

hey now

some are 8 days long

[pure spoke]

Because more damage

[green acorn]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that individual units arts intensity plays into how strong certain afflictions are, given how sideways some of the reactions work in this game 😅

[tight haven]

it is very unintuitive yes

[forest gazelle]

Stagger isn't more dmg it's more utlility

But if the stagger bonus aint like 5-7 idk if it's better than just dumping to ult gain to spam her Ult

[shrewd root]

turns out in mono phys without that 1 stagger youll js always be 1 away from stunning per rota

[drifting quest]

case 21842814821854821 of someone asking why the sheet is as it is

[tight haven]

the thing is that theres just no point building ER on chen atm

[daring dove]

I mean if you stagger the enemy sooner, that directly correlates with more damage.

[forest gazelle]

My current build almost perfectly stuns Marble Mommy

[tight haven]

no optimized rotations require her to have ult ER

[safe nymph]

have there been any aveywena one shots with gilberta?

[shrewd root]

itll only stop after all landmines have exploded

[tight haven]

any ER you build just causes pointless overflow

[shrewd root]

almost.

[forest gazelle]

True but how much is considered optimal is what we asking here prob

[safe nymph]

im assuming she has highest burst while gilberta has highest buffs

[forest gazelle]

That's with me not doing a correct rotation mostly spam chen

[tight haven]

oneshots for rhodagn i havent seen, unless its with prep time

last rite has the highest burst

[shrewd root]

lmaoo

[tight haven]

not avy

unless youre giving avy prep time

[forest gazelle]

I'll prob try Rhogdan and do a rotation

[spice chasm]

Best last rite chest armor?

[potent hornet]

ult dmg frontiers armour

before p3

[safe nymph]

so last right + gilberta is highest burst potential?

[shrewd root]

i mean if youre whaling its yvonne

[tight haven]

"yes"

[safe nymph]

really huh

[shrewd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316155486034198608/1461981690233749586/campfireren.gif

[tight haven]

it really isnt

yvonnes bursts even at like p5/p5 dont seem to beat lr at all rn

[shrewd root]

doesnt it blitz kill an agony boss in like 26 seconds

[drifting quest]

the gear choices are like what
bonekrusha heavy t1 (agi str combo)
frontier t1 (str agi skill)
mi armour (agi str inten)
swordmancer (agi str inten)

skill and combo buff minimal parts of her damage profile

intensity isn't huge per say but helps to hit stagger breakpoints sooner at little effort, might be some special breakpoint im not aware of as well

swapping to something generic like yinglung phys% loses out on agi str duo so it cuts into your attack too, which hurts even more via sundering % gains

ult gain also like gives no extra breakpoints here so is useless

[tight haven]

this really isnt an achievement

[shrewd root]

idk man im not up to date with endfield speedruns

[tight haven]

it pains me to be mean to yvonne because i want her to be good

but shes legitimately a worse LR in every way

atm

[safe nymph]

last right xahi gilberta + uhh

[tight haven]

perli

or ake

[shrewd root]

well swordmancers arts inten even at MAX artifice is a whopping 1.3 added stagger to the base 10 stagger from lift. youre trading a 20+% combo skill dmg bonus for

so idk man

[forest gazelle]

These are the thing in question for my build

[drifting quest]

add on her talent stagger, the frequency of her combos, plus her skill

[shrewd root]

can you pull up the fastest rogd kill ? im curious

[drifting quest]

more staggers converts into a lot more total team damage

comfier

[forest gazelle]

Also mb i did ult gain not combo dmg

[drifting quest]

and 20% more on combo is like

really nothingburger when you get into it

[forest gazelle]

But really how much is 100% stagger?

[tight haven]

do you have your 10s rhodagn kill vid

@outer ermine

[forest gazelle]

Cause i saw someone with that on Chen

[shrewd root]

1 single stagger point gain on lifts exclusively tho

[forest gazelle]

Chen does lift in combo and skill

[drifting quest]

yeah i wasnt clear on where the extra stagger was

thats my bad

[forest gazelle]

But in a rotato it's not many time she does so

[drifting quest]

the point was about how the other armour pieces lose more

[forest gazelle]

Me just wondering if Ult gain or stagger works better (if stagger it has to be high stagger, adding 1.3 isn't going to change at all)

[drifting quest]

ult gain adds no breakpoint so its useless

[tight haven]

yeah ult gain legitimately just does not do anything

[drifting quest]

the argument would be swapping to combo skill or battle skill %

[tight haven]

i could see an argument for skill% tbh

[forest gazelle]

it just make chen spam ult

[tight haven]

like ig it just depends

[drifting quest]

its going to be like

[tight haven]

4pc swordmancer is just "you can't go wrong"

[drifting quest]

optional

[forest gazelle]

There's onyl so many agility str or mainly agi

[tight haven]

ya

[drifting quest]

swordmancer is more future proofed / consistent

[tight haven]

no in this context it doesnt

[drifting quest]

especially if you have to swap rotation and access chen bskill less

[tight haven]

the ER you can get from a chest piece doesnt influence a meaningful breakpoint

unless youre playing with akekuri instead of pog

or some shit

[forest gazelle]

ER?

[tight haven]

energy regen

ult eff

but yea you could do 1 million rotations with lifeng/pog/dapan or endmin and that 16% ER just will not cause chen to ult even one time more because your added ult energy will just always overflow

[forest gazelle]

Maybe perhaps because i am using Chen's BS alot more since she's kinda my Main DPS instead of endmine

Before you say it's bad. Look at me

[tight haven]

ah i see

no thats perfectly valid

[drifting quest]

it shouldnt matter

[tight haven]

i get why you would want to do that if thats how youre playing

[drifting quest]

or well

[tight haven]

no it makes sense

[forest gazelle]

It does alot tho

[tight haven]

theyre not doing like

[drifting quest]

yeah i was gonna say

[tight haven]

optimal phys rots

[drifting quest]

less pog interaction

means less sp

[tight haven]

yea

[drifting quest]

means less energy

so er% matters

[forest gazelle]

It's kinda hard to remember everything

I do try to have the rotation but because i have to focus on dodging

[tight haven]

yep thats a valid use case

if it helps it helps

[drifting quest]

ill be real my brain goes smooth halfway into phys fights

ive whiffed a good number of lifeng skills on 4 stack vuln because i forgot to breach or crush it

[forest gazelle]

Like i need 2-3 attempts locking in before i actually get a smooth 1 time cycle

But then completely lose it and not do anywa

iirc i got breach 4 stack, skipped lifeng and stacked for crush with orignium while breach was still active

[modest thorn]

if wulfguard applies combustion on his battle skill does his combo trigger?

[tight haven]

im on some weird shit rn myself

[tight haven]

oh

wait no

[gritty olive]

i did p4 tidefall + hotwork glove + 2 redeemer seal

[modest thorn]

oh ok gotcha

[gritty olive]

worse than just standard hotworn + tidefall

[tight haven]

an infliction must be applied

[gritty olive]

3xhotwork + slab might be the key

[tight haven]

anyway im doing some weird shit myself rn

with lifeng

doing calculations and at p3 i think im better off like

running no set on lifeng

idk if its correct necessarily, im not accurately accounting for aoe scenarios yet

but unironically double slab lifeng might be the fucking play

[forest gazelle]

Tho assuming you get 26 art intensity on Chen -> 100% smth stagger on Lift

[tight haven]

he just hits so hard hes getting close to pacing endmin in my rotations

[drifting quest]

p3 + mb lets him get some insane attack so slab gaming is just

insane

[tight haven]

yea thats what its panning out to be

mountain bearer is such a silly silly weapon

[forest gazelle]

how much does that add to lift stagger?

it doesn't say the base for skill panel or in info

[tight haven]

lifts stagger is 10 at base

then you add 20% stagger efficiency on top

from swordmancer set bonus

[forest gazelle]

13.56

[modest thorn]

how do i know how long inflictions and stuff are applied for

[forest gazelle]

idk if this is good for those who don't use lots of chen lift

[drifting quest]

any natural ones should be 15s
any forced ones tell you

[forest gazelle]

But it certainly adds alot considering Lifeng is also a heavy arts intensity guy

[modest thorn]

forced as in this?

[drifting quest]

yes

[modest thorn]

also im assuming this combustion doesn't proc clannibal

[tight haven]

if it doesnt specify its 15s

it doesnt

combustion would need to be consumed

via his enhanced bskill

[modest thorn]

gotcha thank u

[normal tangle]

isn't it 20

or is that just for vuln

[drifting quest]

i could be wrong or it could differ

[forest gazelle]

This is pretty alright considered I am not comepletely maxing her properly

[tight haven]

its 15s

[normal tangle]

oh

my bad i'm trogged

[tight haven]

vuln and any inflictions are 20s base

refreshed by adding more stacks

[normal tangle]

whuh

why'd you say 15 then

[tight haven]

those are arts reactions

[normal tangle]

am i tripping

[tight haven]

hmm i need to see my psychiatrist

[drifting quest]

book me in too bro

my excuse is 0 sleep

[normal tangle]

washed up tcers

[drifting quest]

i just consumed a chest locator to tell me there's a chest literally 180 degrees behind me

[shrewd root]

bro ate the locator

[drifting quest]

i bought out the aurylene locators too despite being 100% aurylene

[green cipher]

Hmmm thinking if I should artifice ult gain for wulf

[tender sleet]

Has anyone been collecting drop rate data for mastery mats? I have 17 points for Crisis but only 3 for Re-Crisis. Rates seem similar though.

[green cipher]

True but I aint farming triagellos for pink mat

[drifting quest]

the other source should give more than recrisis

[jagged tiger]

I nêd

Tcred

[tender sleet]

It's almost identical for the targeted mat, based on my limited data. Bonus might be in favor of Crisis, but I just don't have enough data on Re-Crisis to make that call. That said, if they're identical, Crisis is faster so still no reason to do bosses. I just want to confirm that.

[rose sentinel]

oups wrong

[gritty olive]

@rare zodiac this is better

than some ultspam shit

nvm

i lied

[manic blade]

Big atk oooooo gotta be meta ooooo

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-chen-qianyu-chen-arknights-endfield-gif-18168964414162263000

[gritty olive]

idk what im doing wrong here

[modest thorn]

anyone know the best time on rhodagn with laevatain is without the skip?

[dry kindle]

Explode

[tight haven]

skipless would probably cause the run to take 40s-60s

just eyeballing

[dry kindle]

CBT laev record was no skip

[modest thorn]

what was their time?

[gritty olive]

im having some doublethinking

would it be inconsitent to assume that pot1 laev also has pot1 weapon cuz why not

[dry kindle]

Sub 20 iirc

F2p rite has a 15s fraudagn kill

Wao

[modest thorn]

sub 20 with no skip?

wtf 💀

[dry kindle]

CBT laev was funny

[modest thorn]

oh xd

[tight haven]

how tf was it sub 20 skipless

[rare zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/waking-up-bubbles-tara-strong-the-powerpuff-girls-just-woke-up-gif-9231164634260244461

I wake up for this?

[dry kindle]

Bilibili doesn't wanna show cbt vids

Bleh

[restive crescent]

out of curiosity what r calc standards here

[gritty olive]

simple hotworks combo

[restive crescent]

oh i meant like skill level/artificing/weapon essence

[gritty olive]

but im trying to maximize the usage of the energyloss

[gritty olive]

m12, max artifice, max weapon essence

[restive crescent]

hmm ok

[dry kindle]

Oh right it's this one

https://vxb23.tv/ZNlnGWA

[restive crescent]

im tryhingf 2 do calcs myself but couldnt figure out what standards 2 use

[dry kindle]

Cbt2 laev go brrrrrrr

[gritty olive]

its kinda funny how like

[restive crescent]

also def formula is kinda contradictory idk if its .933 or .5

[gritty olive]

tidefall is the only armor with int main and str sub

[gritty olive]

its .5 idk where youre getting .933 from, at least for D defense enemies

[restive crescent]

idr i was sleep deprived tbh

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

[restive crescent]

easy 1 line change ig

[gritty olive]

@tight haven

whats your weapon pot for laev

[tight haven]

h

[tight haven]

5

essences maxed

gear maxed

except for str on gloves/chest which are both at +0

[shrewd root]

this song is fire

[tight haven]

you said there was no skip

[gritty olive]

im fucking cooked

[dry kindle]

It is no skip you fuck

[tight haven]

dude it skips

omg.

no phase transition

why do bitches b lying to me.

[upbeat igloo]

Guys I have a question

[dry kindle]

Second part

[upbeat igloo]

Why doesn’t this item work on Ardelia:

[dry kindle]

Ardelia bskill doesn't heal

[craggy pond]

her battle skill isn't the thing that heals, it's her talent which lets her bs & ult drop sheeps that heal

[green cipher]

What weapon would give ember more hp sunder, her sig or the thermite looking one

[rare zodiac]

She heal with talent

[bold rose]

If Endmin is a Penguin…
Does that mean Endfield runs on the penguin OS (aka Linux)

[vagrant sparrow]

how do we feel about gilberta in general? i got her from the free pulls and i was not even thinking about getting her ngl

[tight haven]

very very good support that most people won't find a reason to pull for

[vagrant sparrow]

ehh hopefully she gets a proper team later on

[tight haven]

because ardelia and her sig are given for free and work for anything in the game rn

[vagrant sparrow]

ill level her and stuff but prob wont use her

[amber vapor]

I've done 50 essences with no luck on a perfect essence, how long did it take you?

[tight haven]

in optimal strategies she's straight-up the best choice but those strategies require a lot of technical know-how to make work

[bold rose]

I mostly think of Gilb vs Arde as offense vs defense

[tight haven]

it took me about 30 for laevs essence

[amber vapor]

I'm going to crash out bro

[tight haven]

yeah 50 is CRAZY

[amber vapor]

I keep on getting Int/Heat/-

[tight haven]

is that using permits

damn

[amber vapor]

Yes all permits

[dry kindle]

Sir its int atk%

[amber vapor]

I don't have sig

[dry kindle]

F

[amber vapor]

Don't care to pull for it

Just wanted to essence farm for fun to get a decent Lev build

I don't have the motivation to farm for another team because there's no content for multiple teams so

I'm just burning my daily sanity and whatever sanity boosters that are expiring

[bold rose]

If I’m using Gilb as Laev support is there an actual case for P5 Stanza over P0 sig because of %dmg saturation?

[tight haven]

yes and no

some rotations will prefer gilb's sig specifically for its massive ult eff which allows her alternative gearing options (namely the ability to run 2 slab which allows her to deal pretty unreal damage for a support)

[amber vapor]

Slab is a scam do not fall prey to its allure

[tight haven]

but if you arent making use of her sig's ult eff or if you're f2p and want to be conservative then stanza is just better as a generic buffing option

[dry kindle]

Fund my sig pulls

[bold rose]

Technically I do have sig

[vagrant sparrow]

which sig

[tight haven]

when i say "some" here i do mean her best uses are using sig

[bold rose]

Gilb sig

[tight haven]

technically?

[dry kindle]

Anyway who's funding my p5 wulf

[vagrant sparrow]

i got p5 wulf by mistake

🔥

[dry kindle]

I got p4 from standard

[bold rose]

Not raised so not a option rn (still lv1, just rolled)

[dry kindle]

And fuck all pulling laev

[amber vapor]

Trade mine for a p0 arclight pls

[dry kindle]

[tight haven]

gotcha

[potent hornet]

i have p5 wolf and he is level 1

[tight haven]

you can use stanza for now

[bold rose]

I was already running a P5 lv80 Stanza with 3/3 essence

[dry kindle]

Lv80

💀

[tight haven]

and then do some research and figure out if you want to start using her sig

[vagrant sparrow]

should i pull gilb sig

since i got her

[tight haven]

you'll live without it

[amber vapor]

You don't need to level support weps much tbh unless the skills you are using rely on the stats heavily

[tight haven]

stanza exists

[amber vapor]

Like my Ardelia is purely just a corrosion bot for my Laev

And the heals

So I just put in a will essence 💀

[potent hornet]

bleh i didn't save it

[tight haven]

leveling gilb's weapon does make sense

[potent hornet]

who has the link for the essence calculator

[tight haven]

she can do pretty stupid damage

again thanks to slab

[amber vapor]

Just use endfield dev

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/

[vagrant sparrow]

okay ill skip gilberta sig then

[tight haven]

will as a main stat along with gilb's multipliers let her do some shockingly high damage

[amber vapor]

The game also tells you what fields are best for your weps essence too

[potent hornet]

bleh detonation unit doesn't have many good other options that can pop up

[warm galleon]

Will for personal damage, arts for corrosion shred

[amber vapor]

Chat unrelated but I have enough pulls to get Aemeth in wuwa and her sig guaranteed but I haven't touched the game in months

Should I reinstall just to pull 🗿

The gambler inside me wants to pull

[vagrant sparrow]

sure

she is decent

[warm galleon]

A meth?

[amber vapor]

Thing is I'll play for a day and then get bored again

[vagrant sparrow]

im skipping her for the dude but i know damn well she is def better

[amber vapor]

Luuk?

[vagrant sparrow]

ye

[amber vapor]

Good choice. Bro is a homie

[proud vector]

Damn it finally clicked

this is the way

[edgy crater]

da heck what

[frigid belfry]

What's the cap on Arts Intensity again?

[proud vector]

There is a cap? Or do you mean what is the max we can stack with what we have

[frigid belfry]

Sorry not cap but the ceiling that hits diminishing returns as they say

[proud vector]

It scales linearly so it never has diminishing returns..? (1 point = 1%) I think you mean saturation, but that depends a ton on what other buffs you can access

[frigid belfry]

Well that's good to hear. I'll bomb my Perlica Arts Intensity as much as I can

[proud vector]

Oh yeah that’s the recommended route from what I understand

Since it improves electrification’s arts amp as well

[bitter cobalt]

isnt there diminishing return on effect enhancement from arts intensity?

[vestal sinew]

i got some questions regarding the team building document,would someone be able to help me?

more specifically regarding their gear

[gritty olive]

relative diminishing returns

[frigid belfry]

Can you elaborate for me?

[gritty olive]

real diminishing returns is something like this

if you have 100 usd and i gave you 100 usd, you got doubled money(yehey)
if you have 1m usd and i gave you 100 usd, thats just, underwhelming compared to the money you already have prior

[dry kindle]

None

[gritty olive]

the better term over "diminishing returns" is "cost opportunity"

because instead of investing 100% atk buff when you already have 100% atk prior, you couldve put it on another multiplier like dmg%

3(1) < 2(2)

[rotund yoke]

I was so confused looking at this until i realised it's genshin

[gritty olive]

the EM scalinf is like

logarithmic

the linear scaling is smth like the green line
the diminishing returns scaling is like the blue line which is log(x)

[proud vector]

And yeah there is opportunity cost on arts intensity

After all reactions scale on like standard damage formula stuff like attack and damage amps (just not skill dmg% etc for obvious reasons)

It is however its own bracket, so it’s a pretty good boost all things considered to characters there to provide inflictions more than damage from skills

[gritty olive]

is it still considered cost opportunity if the only way to increase damage is to spam arts intensity

[fast hinge]

what are you talking about? I love my laev melt team

[gritty olive]

could laev solo dorito with p0+p0

[fast hinge]

trimmed? that sounds freaky

i feel like you'd need to have ult up for phase 2 to clear out the minions

that implies either beating phase 1 really fast without ult or getting ult back fast enough for phase 2

or somehow killing all the little goblins without ult

i guess maybe you could run a bunch of these but you lose out on jakub's 27% atk boost

[wind nebula]

I dunno if I should be happy or sad that this is all it took to trim everything. pics are pre-food.

It's cool to be able to do it with so many different teams but now I have no reason to power them up any further I guess? what are all the spreadsheets for if this is what we're up against?

[tight haven]

literally just optimizing for fun

i personally like setting goals and seeing if i can achieve them, like doing sub 1 min for all the umbral agony stages

[outer ermine]

mb just woke up

never got the kill with the new rot no, run out of all my ginseng and jakubs until next week again i can grind if cn doesnt get it by then

[wind nebula]

I've got a demon in my head constantly trying to convince me to do Arclight carry/solo for umbral agony.

[tight haven]

fuuuck

[outer ermine]

already shared in bili so hope it just gets passed around or i need qq ref so i can infiltrate them mfs

[wind nebula]

idk how you folks do rotations. I'm lucky to get my homebrewed opener correct

[potent hornet]

push button when need push

[hasty grail]

You could aim for trimming it without food assuming you folded the first time

Fooded*

[wind nebula]

I wish arbitrary things like that did anything for me. it's rare that they do

[hasty grail]

Just thought u were looking for a reason to push them farther

[ripe parrot]

DO IT

solo runs are fun

sorry, i should clarify solo runs are fun (except unorthodox tactics agony)

[potent hornet]

where is kunst tube calculated in the damage formula @twilit quail ?

[wind nebula]

It's so ass. She needs 213% Ult Gain to even get close to feeling like a complete character. she only has to use 2 empty skills to get her ult back up, iirc.

But her damage seems like it'll go from low to downright abysmal (I haven't committed any resources past 80 yet)

[bronze plume]

i mean tbf

shes not a main source of dmg in a team

[wind nebula]

oh for sure, it's clear vanguards aren't suppsoed to do a lot of damage themselves.

I jsut think she's cool and hate she gets kicked out of her only team by windy broom lady

[bronze plume]

wym shes in the electric team outside of speedruns

[brave girder]

is gilberta's weapon better than the bp weapon or should i just get laeva's sig?

[bronze plume]

its obv better then the bp

but stanza is better then the bp and in a good amount of scenarios better then her sig weapon

[steady gate]

Kunst tube gives all DMG, which should be in the DMG bucket. Use it and im pretty sure it gives you +25% physical, heat, cryo, nature, electric DMG on your character sheet.

[wind nebula]

Gilberta is great for electric and the grouping is fun, but she has anti synergy with arclight.

[bronze plume]

you work around the anti synergy

[brave girder]

you mean the stanza of memorial?

[bronze plume]

yes stanza means the weapon with stanza in the name

[brave girder]

so i should get laeva's sig right

[bronze plume]

if you want laevs best weapon yes

[brave girder]

thanks i'll just get laeva's then

[cinder oxide]

Wuling essence loves me.

[potent hornet]

gotcha thx

[sly nymph]

are ppl going 6/6/3 essence on all 3 phys dps

it seems worth

[torn pilot]

is endmin better with a set that invests into crush value?

the most recent event felt like there wasnt a lot of time for me to sit back and auto

and i thought to myself that having more intensity was probably better than swordmancer

[sly nymph]

aethertech

[twilit quail]

we dont need ult gain in the given situation and it does something instead of nothing with line 3, if you need ult gain ofc you should use the ult gain chest

[torn pilot]

all 3?

[twilit quail]

i do talk about stagger actually it's literally on the page

[torn pilot]

i thought just chen and endmin did damage

[shrewd root]

what about the combo skill dmg chest

[sly nymph]

ueah lifeng chen endmin

[twilit quail]

dogshit

[torn pilot]

ahh nice i didnt know lifeng did damage too, i just thought he was a support

[shrewd root]

as opposed to a single stagger point from the swordmancer chest?

[steady gate]

P sure only Chen and either endmin/da pan does most of the teams damage. Just 663 those two.

[torn pilot]

amma be real endmin seems a lot better than pan, on that topic

[sly nymph]

i think lifeng 20%+ even with xiranite lol

worth

[twilit quail]

you know intensity does more than just stagger right

[steady gate]

Then up to you if you want to spend your sanity on that vs other upgrades or other teams.

[sly nymph]

it will be stonks when i get p3

[torn pilot]

yeah, think thats better than swordmancer?

[shrewd root]

i mean on chen what else does the intensity do? i thought all it did was add some stagger value to lift

i may be missing something kek

[proud vector]

Damage of lift goes up

But eh

[twilit quail]

[shrewd root]

by like 10%

no?

or 20%

either one

[steady gate]

Arts intensity affects the stagger from the lift and the damage from lift itself.

[shrewd root]

i cant recall

[proud vector]

1% for each intensity point

[shrewd root]

yeah

[torn pilot]

someone told me intensity is a pretty direct downgrade to swordmancer set on chen

[shrewd root]

does that mean lift +20% does more than her combo skills dmg gain from the combo skill chest???? crazy work

[twilit quail]

combo is a small % of her total damage when you are playing efficiently

[sly nymph]

the full arts intensity feels good

[twilit quail]

combo dmg% is mathematically weaker

than intensity

[proud vector]

I mean it buffs her battle skill lift?

[twilit quail]

even if you do as few chen skills as possible

and make lifeng press bs more

[torn pilot]

the thing is that chens primary purpose isnt really to deal damage

[shrewd root]

i had no clue lift was that large of a part of her dmg

[torn pilot]

its to apply stacks of vulnerability
and her secondary function is to stack stagger

[twilit quail]

aethertech chen is not better than 4x sword

[proud vector]

It’s not it’s just that combo skill damage sucks

[torn pilot]

so swordmancer just feels far more intuitive

[twilit quail]

it's not terrible or anything

[proud vector]

[twilit quail]

it's only a little worse

[bronze plume]

im going to backflip over the family of whoever made this stupid ass weapon banner

[twilit quail]

but it's not better than sword and your net stagger is lower

[bronze plume]

oh cool i got 2 6 stars in 1 10 pull surely one of them is gilbertas weapon

nah

2 dupes of uselessness

[proud vector]

Hello Beef I see you are enjoying 25% hit chance

[sly nymph]

on endmin not chen i was talking abt

[twilit quail]

on endmin it's also strictly worse

[bronze plume]

stupid ahh 25% bro

[torn pilot]

yeah and i feel the stagger matters a lot

[torn pilot]

whys that?

[proud vector]

At least the base is 4% so it’s 1% to hit but still

Rough

[torn pilot]

btw does swordmancer empowered attack apply to units off the field too?

[twilit quail]

cant use set effect like at all

[dry kindle]

Look at endmin

[twilit quail]

just does nothing

[dry kindle]

Guess

[bronze plume]

still terrible for how the weapon system works

[twilit quail]

lower dmg than sword and less stagger

[sly nymph]

isnt the buff up for 2nd crush

erm

[proud vector]

the offrate 6* weapons are a bit balls

If they were stanza level we’d be vibing at 4% rates

[bronze plume]

i got a white frost nova

and something else i already hjad

both 2 dupes of useless

at least i got 3 6 stars in 60 but 2 white nights

i am not a white knight for you HG

[solar vale]

Ok, for LR. I almost feel like it's safer to play anyone besides her in your main comp. you can stay further away, and you have less chance of getting your combo interupted. Plus most of the other operators just have faster combos then she does

[torn pilot]

what should be the priority of operations for leveling up my endmin to max?

[dry kindle]

Lr has 30 sp final hit

[proud vector]

It’s just more stagger and SP regen if you use her
So if you can it’s good

[twilit quail]

can you tell me how endmin activates aethertech effect?

how will endmin apply a vuln stack

when the enemy has 4

or more than 0 for that matter

[torn pilot]

intensity works with crush

[twilit quail]

bro

[proud vector]

Not activating set bonus fully?

[solar vale]

Ah, ok. got it. so she basically just is higher commitment for more reward then say, playing Xaihi

[proud vector]

Yea pretty much

If I have a lot of SP from downtime swapping to Xaihi to like

Turbo out a LR combo in 6 seconds (2 final strikes) flat is pog

[dry kindle]

Not even 3s

[rose fjord]

is there a confirmed formula for arts burst damage?

[proud vector]

Yes, sec

[proud vector]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage_calculation

[rose fjord]

thanks

[solar vale]

Cause lvl 80 marble is kinda kicking my ass, and I realized its cause I keep missing damage windows cause it keeps dodging out of my last hits as LR, and forcing me to dodge and drop the combo. plus, if I ever get comboed, and LR goes down, there goes all my DPS

[proud vector]

Reactions basically scale very similar to attacks, they just use a calc to replace the base damage%

Like how an ult says it does 1100% damage etc

A reaction would do like 80% + 80% per infliction consumed

……
This unfortunately means that uh reactions aren’t as hard hitting as just enabling your striker

We kinda need a “I want to boost my arts intensity! mad giggling” character to make reactions more pog

[torn pilot]

is it worth it to max all of endmins skills including mastery

[rose fjord]

yeah i was asking because i have xaihi lvl 80 and her cryobursts deal higher damage than LR's skill

[proud vector]

O yeah a burst at lv 90 is 230% mult

[fresh lynx]

Xiranite really beats damage set on Lifeng even if you have his sig?

[sly nymph]

doesnt this tooltip say it applies vuln regardless? “such skills then apply the actual physical status of crushed”
and if it didnt work then why is every endmin gameplay on yourube using it

[proud vector]

But since it scales off damage stats it like does a ton

[torn pilot]

yeah this is correct

[tight haven]

okay i really dont know where to begin for my laev sub 1 for b&a

im lowkey like thinking of subbing in chen just for faster staggers because holy shit the phase transitions take so much time

[torn pilot]

what would be the best full set for aether on endmin btw? just slamming 4 piece or what

[twilit quail]

It doesnt work because it only applies a stack of Vulnerable when the enemy is at 0. If the enemy has more than 1 it simply applies the physical status which is crush. You can even see in the description here that it simply consumes them

[tight haven]

i need this mf dead frame 1

[twilit quail]

it does not apply another stack

lift and knockdown explicitly

apply another stack when the enemy already has vuln

[harsh slate]

Hmm Guy how's my AIC looks like?/j

[sly nymph]

the tooltip implies that it procs vulnerable status

so the tooltip is wrong?

[twilit quail]

ugh I'll open the game

[proud vector]

How does aether tech proc

[tight haven]

wdym "proc"

[twilit quail]

and see what it is in chinese

[proud vector]

Is it just applying vuln or applying vuln on something with vuln

[tight haven]

crush cannot INCREASE a vuln stack

it can only begin one

[proud vector]

Oh so you can trigger the first effect

But the bonus effect at 4 vuln is completely out of luck?

[twilit quail]

you can do a shit rotation to gain 1 stack of the effect

[dry kindle]

En tl go brr

[twilit quail]

at best

[sly nymph]

“skills with the crush effect first make the enemy vulnerable. if the enemy is already vulnerable, such skills then apply the actual physical status of crushed” this wording makes it seem that there is always vulnerable

even if there is no stack

[proud vector]

Ah that’s not how it functions

It’s more of an OR

[tight haven]

yeah no your interpretation is incorrect

[proud vector]

The language may be right but

The game mechanics says you wrong

[sly nymph]

then why do ppl use the set

[tight haven]

i think the wording is clunky too

[twilit quail]

cause theyre fucking stupid

[proud vector]

^

[twilit quail]

it's literally just strictly worse

[tight haven]

ugh.

weapon banner.

oh clannibal

if only you were useful

[twilit quail]

the wording could be better but your interpretation of how it works is wrong yes

[dry kindle]

En gacha players very smart

[twilit quail]

again

this is explained

[proud vector]

theorycrafting? More like complaintcrafting

[twilit quail]

in my fucking document

I hate this

[proud vector]

It’s not pinned

Nothing is pinned still argh

[grand lagoon]

eat that clannibal, adopt cannibals, became cannibal

ba dmm tss

[proud vector]

Not even the basic ass damage formula, the key to like understanding why people do thingy

[tight haven]

well hell

at least my sundered is finally p5

[wind nebula]

Arts Infliction tooltips read the same. do they apply infliction if they trigger a reaction instead? no, they don't

[grand lagoon]

is there any number shown in game about vulnerable, susceptibility, breach, etc

like how much increment

i think its mostly exist outside on the internet

[tight haven]

it does not say in-game no

talos wiki's information is up-to-date

[dry kindle]

Ok whel go away

[grand lagoon]

[glass birch]

Susceptibility is shown via the skill that applies it

[grand lagoon]

ah righttt

[glass birch]

Like ardelia's battle skill or Gilberta's ult

Same with Amp effects

[tight haven]

physical statuses, arts inflictions, reactions and bursts are not though

which is annoying

we know what they are at least

[glass birch]

It very much is so. They should've added that info into the guides or tutorials for each effect

[grand lagoon]

all of them, just says..."increase damage taken" like... ok, but how much

is probably every players first reaction

[glass birch]

Or even just a small chart added to the description for each effect

[fresh lynx]

Is the lifeng recommended armor Bonekrusha or Bonekrusha T1 chest?

[proud vector]

That’s more for teambuilding

plus the TC is a bit speed kill oriented here

[tight haven]

bonekrusha heavy armor

agi/int/ult eff

assuming you have 3pc swordmancer on him besides

[wind nebula]

hmm interesting. Shatter is an Arts Reaction the deals physical damage. so operator level would have a bigger effect on it than normal physical statuses

[sand rain]

If you already got Gilberta + Laev + Laev sig is it worth it to pick up Gilberta sig or should I just save?

[heady pine]

depends on if u have stanza or opus

[sand rain]

only got Stanza

[heady pine]

just use stanza

save weapon pulls for dps or those with a bigger need

[cinder oxide]

Tk the lord for stanza so I can save

I need another 2.1k arsenal HG pls

[sand rain]

Are Pogranichnik or Li Feng those with a bigger need?

[tight haven]

pog no lifeng kind of

[heady pine]

pog doesnt even want his sig weapon he wants thermite more

li feng if u dont have valiant, go for mountain bearer

[cinder oxide]

Pog sig is bad and Lifeng can just use Valient

[tight haven]

without his sig lifeng is relegated to just being useful for his support effects

[heady pine]

theres a big diff between lifeng's two best weapons and his 3rd

[cinder oxide]

Nah Valient has solid dmg

[tight haven]

ehh

[cinder oxide]

U can build him ok subdps on valiant

[tight haven]

it's fine yeah

hard to justify going for sig when phys has no issues with anything rn

[cinder oxide]

Basically nowhere but his wp banner gives Mountain so like yeah too much effort

I’m currently 8.9/10 to the box on NR banner

Gonna get ascent from box

Cos my luck so bad

[sand rain]

besides sustain

[tight haven]

nothing really lives long enough for that to matter

[dry kindle]

Just kill faster

[sand rain]

My only team being mono physical is making the first level difficult for me

[sand rain]

If that's the case would it be worthwhile to pick up whatever lifengs sig is or nah?

[tight haven]

no

you can definitely clear without it

[proud vector]

Not with Tangtang on the horizon

[tight haven]

if you want the best phys team possible get it for him

[outer ermine]

[proud vector]

Arsenal tickets are primo shit yo

[sand rain]

if tangtang don't replace my bumass Chen I'm rioting

[dry kindle]

Inb4 5* breacher

[tight haven]

it will be so fucking funny if tangtang ends up being nature

or just anything besides phys

[proud vector]

You know what

[sand rain]

Please let Mi Fu be the 6* physical applicator please lord I beg

I need this

[dry kindle]

That is

[proud vector]

Yeah why did I assume Tangtang was phys

[dry kindle]

Not happening

This isnt pgr

[tight haven]

half this server has gaslit themselves into believing shes phys for...

reasons

[proud vector]

Mi Fu is likely a DORAGON INSTALLERU character like Laev ngl

Her weapon is (great)sword but she is gauntlet user

[sand rain]

Dull colors + Goofy = Phys

[dry kindle]

Greatsword

[proud vector]

Sry greatsword

Is still a sword technically lmao

[dry kindle]

Die

[sand rain]

Either way the only thing I need is for either Mi Fu or Ardashir to kick out my bumass Chen and I'll immediately P5 them

[proud vector]

Chen doesn’t deserve this

[sand rain]

Please don't boot my Lifeng I already have him at P1 I don't want to lose allat

Esp if I lose a 50/50 to him

[tight haven]

lifeng is really hard to boot from phys imo

he does too much

[proud vector]

I’m just hoping Rossi isn’t vanguard since I don’t have Laev lol

[dry kindle]

Dps is getting kicked

We just need to actually get one

[sand rain]

all of the phys team kinda do too much the only bums are Chen and maybe Endmin and even then Endmin good for their debuff and Chen... Chen's only purpose is that she doesn't consume charges

[tight haven]

yeah endmin/dapan are on the chopping block if anything

[dry mason]

I think I'm max Str

[proud vector]

Poor endmin

[dry kindle]

Actually dapan p5 exists

[tight haven]

tru

[proud vector]

You’ll all rue the day endmin unlocks p5

[dry kindle]

1.2x ult

[dry mason]

@outer ermine Now fund me LR p4

[proud vector]

And she/he applies vuln every 2 seconds

[dry mason]

[dry kindle]

Where's your 15s rhodagn kill

[sand rain]

I would probably say Chen is closer on the chopping block, isn't her entire purpose taht she's just the only other unit that doesn't consume phys charges?

[dry mason]

Is it even possible for p2w0

[proud vector]

God imagine if hitting a 4 vuln crush applied an originium crystal LOL

That would be so spicy

[tight haven]

shes a competent damage dealer and the best controlled op in phys besides

[sand rain]

P5 Endmin

[dry mason]

Btw is it worth to artify sub stat on gears

[tight haven]

you could definitely easily replace her but it wouldnt matter much

[dry mason]

[tight haven]

vuln stacks arent a concern for da pan rotations

[proud vector]

Da pen apparently prints them

[tight haven]

it may matter for endmin rotations depending on how they are applied

[dry mason]

@dry kindle

[sand rain]

I wouldn't know my Da Pan still at P1

[dry mason]

[sand rain]

How I have a Lifeng at P1 and a Da Pan at P1 idk

[tight haven]

i want my lifeng p4

[proud vector]

Do you still have like pull savings

[tight haven]

maybe ill just dump the 170 pulls into standard already

[sand rain]

Me? Like 30 right now. Granted I have so much content to clear I can easily get it up to like 90

[proud vector]

Yea, you don’t get high up into potentials until you full pull haha

[dry kindle]

https://vxb23.tv/WkuJTXT

[sand rain]

I was doing the 50/50 maximizing strategy

and then I realized I really don't like Yvonne that much

[outer ermine]

im allergic to aether chest

[sand rain]

so I'm gonna stop that and move back to "only pull when you get 120 pulls"

[dry mason]

Okay that was a fat last ult crit

[outer ermine]

u have the chance to do it faster shino w the new rot

[dry mason]

Maybe I'll try

But Aether armor

[tight haven]

nothing will make you like yvonne less than playing her

[outer ermine]

do sub 13

[tight haven]

she controls so badly

[dry mason]

Back to my old question

[tight haven]

and does nothing last rite cant do better

depressing op

[dry mason]

Is it worth to upgrade sub stats on gears

[potent hornet]

UHHH

[dry mason]

[tight haven]

her signature is actually kind of dogshit thankfully

[potent hornet]

did anyone else get a second in game mail already?>

[cinder oxide]

The very last thing to do since it only costs bills

[tight haven]

it gets beaten by wedge p5

[dry mason]

I'm alr max everything else

[tight haven]

asia players already did

[dry mason]

Only sub stats left

[potent hornet]

i just did as well

[cinder oxide]

Build another team?

[dry mason]

Str on Lae, Will on LR

[tight haven]

oh we're due for it now yeah

[dry mason]

2 teams

[dry kindle]

I guess

[tight haven]

it's been 12 hours

[dry mason]

Fire and Ice

[cinder oxide]

Do Phys now

[dry kindle]

Artificing should be easy when wuling updates

[dry mason]

Phys is copium

[potent hornet]

i got another 880

[dry kindle]

If it ever updates

🗿

[cinder oxide]

Phys is fun I promise

[dry mason]

No way I'll invest on Trashmin and 2 5* units

[outer ermine]

art int on perlica and more int staccing w xaihi its worth trust

[dry mason]

[dry mason]

I was thinking about it too

Maybe invest on art int Perlica

[cinder oxide]

I mean what else are u spending those Wuling bills on anyway

[dry mason]

But ig I'll chill fn

I can buy green jars and save

For 3rd team

[sand rain]

Last Rite Player

That's all I had to know

[dry mason]

Or just max sub stats first

[sand rain]

Last Rite mains are a different breed

[outer ermine]

i just did 2/3 on all i dont have the luck for those +2s

[cinder oxide]

Max the last stat and leave

[dry mason]

Wdym last stat

Cryo / battle skill dmg ?

[cinder oxide]

Artificing stat 3 yeah

Esp if it’s ult charge or smth

[dry kindle]

Just win

[cinder oxide]

For phys maxing arts intensity is basically all I did so far

[outer ermine]

u first

ill follow

[dry kindle]

I don't even have p5 wulf

[outer ermine]

[dry kindle]

Unironically gonna pull out the double slab

[outer ermine]

all roads lead to slab

[dry mason]

Just only Str left on Lae

Will left on LR

I have insane luck on artifact tbh

[dry mason]

[dry kindle]

Who needs hotwork gloves

[cinder oxide]

Ok what does Laev even want at this point tk god I haven’t started on her fr yet

[tight haven]

3pc hot work and tide fall chest

[warm galleon]

and a credit card

[tight haven]

lmao

laevs preferences only significantly change at very high potentials

[dry mason]

I'm afraid as time goes

[tight haven]

p4+ on herself and weapon dupes

[dry mason]

P0 Lae wants ult recharge mix

[tight haven]

it overtakes over very long timelines yeah

[dry kindle]

I'd just throw the 4ebs at people

[tight haven]

but realistically hot work is the way to go for f2p/light spender laev players

[dry kindle]

But you need p5 wulf for that

[dry mason]

Img having p5 wulf

[calm field]

rossi will replace him trust

[crude crag]

pity wulf aint a waifu

[cinder oxide]

I have p10 chen and p8 wulf

Can’t get an Arclight to save my life though

[warm galleon]

Rossi cutscene: fast heavy sword user
Rossi gameplay: slow heavy sword user

[sand rain]

Unless you're physical.

Then all roads lead to bonekrusha

[cinder oxide]

Nah Rossi fastest atk cycle greatsword user trust

[cinder oxide]

All roads lead to AEthertech brutha wyo

[sand rain]

Nah Rossi will use one of them magic wands Perlica and Akesh use believe it

[calm field]

rossi will bench laev in pyro team trust

[sand rain]

I may have to craft 12 more pieces of wuling gear

[sand rain]

When Akekuri exists is crazzy

[warm galleon]

Æthertech™

[crude crag]

.lastrite

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1470984963016097802/last-rite-takdes.gif?ex=698d4900&is=698bf780&hm=de9cb77fcafdb6cfc5d0901496d9e7ad0b9c81487d6ae671310a03f4218d9bb6&=&width=548&height=274

[crude crag]

you only need last rite

[cinder oxide]

.stop2

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/zhuang-fangyi-zhuang-fangyi-dragon-dragon-girl-gif-17711825278584358889

[sand rain]

You only need aussie bunny

[cinder oxide]

GENTLE TYPE

[sand rain]

https://tenor.com/view/avywenna-arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-avywenna-arknights-gif-7018676886697133251

[cinder oxide]

Ayo get that Marmite out its an eyesore

[sand rain]

I just remembered the guy who like filled 500 fluid pumps draining a river and then asking what to do with all the water

[crude crag]

nah last rite is so good to the point she has a bot command here

.lastrite

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1470984963016097802/last-rite-takdes.gif?ex=698d4900&is=698bf780&hm=de9cb77fcafdb6cfc5d0901496d9e7ad0b9c81487d6ae671310a03f4218d9bb6&=&width=548&height=274

[sand rain]

.landmine2

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086673530314832/1434154209674264647/perlica.gif?ex=690945f0&is=6907f470&hm=f57a83ed37d87a842baad4b002dc93ff2d9b2ef2e712e3e63e00a57be134b4ab&=&width=138&height=138

[cinder oxide]

.gyatt2

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/635439835364196353/1354538951670497491/caption.gif?ex=6971d2f4&is=69708174&hm=d754eecdcead1975cf086d97ba7f33f6aad733bee931937681df051ed8c5d37c&=&width=487&height=593

[sand rain]

A missinput will fuck up Last Rite's day

[crude crag]

wake me up when aussie bunny gets a bot command

[sand rain]

a missinput will make your Endmin useless for 2 seconds before they immediately apply their rock cancer

[sand rain]

.australia

.avystralia

Either of those can work

[cinder oxide]

A misinput on hyper crush is just an alternate pathway

All roads lead to 4 stack vuln

[sand rain]

Holy shit Neko with the Scam clutch ⁉️

[sand rain]

All roads lead to "Pogranichnik stop missing your ability cast"

[cinder oxide]

Ok fair

Same with Lifeng battle skill tbh

[sand rain]

or worse "pogranichnik get off the fucking floor my crystals are about to expire"

[cinder oxide]

You’d nvr have that with my GOAT DA PAN

[sand rain]

Lifeng's skill casts have been a hell of a lot more consistent than Pogger's for me

and if Lifeng misses a skill it's not a biggie

He can just reapply his debuff next cycle

If poggers misses a skill Lifeng can't apply his debuff

And you have to wait to use pogger's skill on some random mfer with 1 vuln stack on them

[cinder oxide]

Lifeng can proc off his own battle skill though?

[sand rain]

Aren't one of his debuffs based on him being the first person to apply a vuln stack?

[cinder oxide]

Yes only if u p0

Which I ain’t