theorycrafting

[gritty olive]

welp #help is kinda hostile to me

[drifting quest]

smile

[modest thorn]

laeva doesn't have an ult cooldown?

[drifting quest]

id expect she does it just ticks down during the duration its active

[modest thorn]

i asked cause i just saw her with a cooldown

[gritty olive]

she doesnt, but she also doesnt gain ult energy when under ult

so like youre "softlocked"

[modest thorn]

her ult had a cooldown thing tho

[gritty olive]

she doesnt have an ult cooldown, but when under ult, she doesnt gain energy

[modest thorn]

cause i was doing some kill 26 enemies thing and instantly charged my ult back up again

[gritty olive]

you can treat that as your "cooldown"

[modest thorn]

but i couldn't use it

like it had a clock thing

[drifting quest]

what'd morb get timed out for

lmao

[gritty olive]

.pp

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1331192247856922696/most_defensible_btw.gif

[sour kestrel]

Where do I find a good Essence for Chen? So far it's just Agility Boost

[drifting quest]

science park

[sour kestrel]

thx

[modest thorn]

also is this from testing or official

cause i swear laeva had a cd on her ult

[next helm]

[viscid turtle]

Hi guys for Laeva what should I focus in essence farming ?

[west moon]

job

[viscid turtle]

Main Dps with Ulti gain build and I got her signature weapon

[gritty olive]

bruv

she doesnt have an ult cd omg

[gritty olive]

wuling essence
int/atk/twilight

use engravings

her "CD" comes in the form of the ult windowwhere she cant gain ult energy in that window

@modest thorn

[modest thorn]

yeah i know that but i saw her ult have a cooldown

thats why i asked

her ult was up but it was greyed out with a clock

ill try to recreate it but idk if it was a bug or smth

thus why i asked

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086682564849684/1470381866883223744/ScreenRecording_02-09-2026_19-31-35_1.mov?ex=698b1753&is=6989c5d3&hm=f1f3e073ff43e6332cb5433ac84c41374da9fb1cbce68a5acb9cffa80d8b6e44&no

maybe greyyed cuz you cant gain energy or smth?

[modest thorn]

no like i insta charged it again

22 second ult with p5, i got ult up immediately after it went down and the ult was available but greyed out so i couldn't press it

it had a greyed out clock thing

looked like it was about 5 seconds in total

oh i recreated it

[gritty olive]

oh

[modest thorn]

15 second ult this time so its not a p5 specific thing

[gritty olive]

so the 15s ult duration is the only softlock

?

[modest thorn]

i think its this clip

actually the cooldown seems to be 10 seconds

0:25-0:30 the cooldown bar is halfway done

[gritty olive]

weirdgechamp

[modest thorn]

i guess yvonne prolly also has the same thing

cause her ult says 10 sec cd but the sheet says 0s

[gritty olive]

ive probably used an incorrect source

[shrewd root]

in the sheet is says pogs threshold is sub 20%, does that mean i js dont need to upgrade this at all or am i misunderstanding something

[wooden nebula]

What are the chances that nefarith and Director Qin are the same person

[tight haven]

yes thats fine

[shrewd root]

i see, interesting

thanks

[modest thorn]

you should ask #lore-room they might know more about it

[shrewd root]

for endmins gear, should i prioritize artificing the phys dmg% and art intensity stats or his main and sub stats (agi and str)

[heady pine]

dont focus str, 1 or 2 points into it is enough

phys dmg, art intensity and agility are the focus

[drifting berry]

Generally you prioritize the stat that gear piece gives you the most, assuming you are not looking for a specific treshhold like ult energy gain. For Kits the 3rd stat, Chest and Gloves Main stat

[shrewd root]

bet

[shrewd root]

gotcha, thanks! brb

[summer flower]

The nuke

[rare nimbus]

is MI security set good for Yvonne?

[drifting quest]

Good? Ehh
Required? Kind of yes

[drifting berry]

Only viable option lmao

[rare nimbus]

Just wanna make sure im making the right choice on char gear

[drifting quest]

There isnt really an alternative

[rare nimbus]

[drifting quest]

One of yvonnes dozen of issues

[drifting berry]

Oh yeah, you can do double crit or slab at high investment apparently

[dark remnant]

Come ooooon

[ripe parrot]

you got this

[dark remnant]

working on it, the ember squad is putting in the work lol

[peak void]

1 second? lmaoooo

[dark remnant]

worst thing is, I couldve saved like 5 sec if my basic attack had hit lol

welp, whatever, got it right after, still less annoying than triaggelos

[open hare]

Balls

[gritty olive]

can someone help me do combustion damage?

[peak void]

uh

any non-fire + fire?

[gritty olive]

no. its more of surtr forced combust

[peak void]

oh u mean u wanna get as much heat stacks as possible

for combust on ebs

Wulf for sure

and then personally i like antal

with p5 wulf, this rot gives 4 heat inflict with 1 sp

wulf bs > wulf combo > wulf ult > antal combo > wulf combo

its important to save the antal combo for after wulf ult

[gritty olive]

[peak void]

and then laeva fs will consume all 4, easy ebs for combust

[gritty olive]

no like calculate damage

[peak void]

oh im sry thats outside my capabilities 🥹

[open hare]

I'll combust into a red mist

https://tenor.com/view/red-mist-kali-gebura-library-of-ruina-pm-gif-3082207638802716005

[gritty olive]

can you at least video + show your stats

ill backtrack the damage

[open hare]

Take a video and record every number your main dps deals 👍

[peak void]

I infact cannot video

[open hare]

Then you are screwed

[gritty olive]

do you have laev

[peak void]

Yes but

[gritty olive]

[peak void]

Slow wifi, on phone, about to eat, etc

[gritty olive]

raizer im gonna add the dreaded ocmbustion damage in a minute

ok cool

[rare zodiac]

You know wulf can self trigger his combo if you ult? Like cs ult cs?

[open hare]

Does Starbucks have better wifi

[peak void]

i never managed to do that myself, but adding antal there lets u get 4 stacks instead of just 3

and also less clunky

[rare zodiac]

You need to add focus so 2 sp still

Unless we are talking 2 rot

[bright wharf]

guys, is it safe to max artifice hot work + tide chest while using umbral torch with Lae? is there a better combination?

[gritty olive]

Effect Base multiplier × (0.5 + (Stack Count × 0.5)) × Level Multiplier × (1+ (Arts Intensity/100)) *
(ATK * DMG% * Stagger * Susceptibility * Amplification * DMG Taken% * Res * Def)

[gritty olive]

currently with what im getting, its the best option, and the double slab is close

[peak void]

oh yea right

[bright wharf]

aight tyvm

[peak void]

focus good tho, no reason not to apply 👍

[gritty olive]

lets discuss nuance

[karmic tusk]

does this site not account for weapon stats? its not showing fortmaker's ult gain efficiency boost

[gritty olive]

currently i have this
if youre aiming for some trims id stick to hotworks

[bright wharf]

oh damn thats really detailed ty

[gritty olive]

233% * 0.5 * 1.454 * 1 *
5756 * 1.256 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1 * 1.2 * 0.5 = 7347 base damage

[open hare]

Everywhere I go, I see slab

[gritty olive]

and the combustion dots should be 1103

just waiting for my phone to charge to 100%

[open hare]

Why

[gritty olive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/clash-royale-sneaky-golem-he-knows-his-time-will-come-Te5M06hO80Uro5GmNv

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/pekka-coc-clash-of-clans-feu-fire-gif-22990781

[gritty olive]

ill just etst it out in ipad

i just need to make this test really quick

Enemies too squishy

how do i reach 1262 damage does forced combustion follow rules

what does this mean when theres dmg% at the top

[twin plover]

This is with the 200% Ult build, ye?

[gritty olive]

yes

do you have some questions regarding it?

[open hare]

Mambo

[twin plover]

Omatsuri Mambo

[twin plover]

Nah, thought you missed the 30 intensity if it was hot work

Trying to figure it out myself

[swift tundra]

Seeing how the speedrunners on Bilibili are all gravitating towards crit set on Laeva, I can imagine a future where every character's BIS is a 6* weapon with crit rate. Less diminishing returns from atk% and damage% buff.

[late swallow]

so for daily use hotwork is better than over investing on ult charge?

[gritty olive]

better for trims as well

i just have this for now

[late swallow]

guess I'll put my artificed kits on my sups then

[gritty olive]

lets just chill for now

[late swallow]

it's not like I spent a bunch of wuling bills on her so no biggie

[gritty olive]

i spent all ofo em on the second build

im kinda bingchilling

[late swallow]

I spent all of them on dps Pog

please clap

[gritty olive]

well pog KR va has mersauls va

want to change on that

[late swallow]

anyone shares VAs with the goat gregor bug man?

[gritty olive]

in arknights there is
endfield none for now

[late swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1023638621179355167/1074957926210486322/cattoastingexpanded.gif

[gritty olive]

https://x.com/Pogranichnik_HQ/status/2018920673335222563

Timely Pogranichnik (@Pogranichnik_HQ)

Here’s the Korean version !

Pog is voiced by Kwon Sung Hyuk
His voice is so deep and soft I love it 🥹

▶ Play video

X · Feb 4, 2026, 5:32 AM

kwalijan

[late swallow]

potential man voicing the actual potential man

[bitter nebula]

guys, to farm essence, you think is better to put the keyword or the second stat?

[late swallow]

you'll be aiming for the 3 stats so...

[gritty olive]

theres three stats

affix the first one and second/third and farm for the last stat

[bitter nebula]

so it's better to put the keyword rather than the second stats

like, better twilight rather than atk%

[gritty olive]

depends on how you manage to overlap it with other stats

atk% + agl/main/int iirc ahs more overlap than if it were twilight

[bitter nebula]

no i need for valiant

for lifeng

so should be
agility
phy damage
combat

[gritty olive]

i dont believe that theres a difference if you affixed phys over combat

[bitter nebula]

idk the keyword in English, but the red one

[bitter nebula]

oh okok, so it's basically the same?

[late swallow]

you have to drop the 3 stats so I think sloting the actual weapon's passive is better and just fish for the middle one

[bitter nebula]

roger that

[late swallow]

btw what are your feelings on Gilb? saw people hating on her pre-release and now I think she's loved

[bitter nebula]

i started by saying "nah, i won't pull, i don't need her after all"

spoiler, spent 80 summons

[gritty olive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/clap-arknights-anime-chibi-77P3Fhi8L1blEseym4

[bitter nebula]

she's cute tho, so worth

[bitter nebula]

wife

idk if i want to put her in laev tho

i mean, could be viable in AoE content

[late swallow]

I'm using her on Laev, it's fine

[bitter nebula]

yeah? how's the rotation?

[gritty olive]

youre hoping every encounter is an aoe encounter

[late swallow]

tbh didn't think on how to put Gilb's skill in there so I just ult lol

[bitter nebula]

make sense

[late swallow]

saw that Gilb + Laev works better with a p5 Wulf

but mine is at p3 so no idea

at a single target encounter I mean

[bitter nebula]

because i think you can actually apply 3 stacks of heat with him

at p5

[late swallow]

yeah it his ult resets his skill

or his combo idk

[bitter nebula]

the ult reset combo

but is liken

[gritty olive]

he can get his ult relatively quick

[bitter nebula]

a very short window

[gritty olive]

but i havent tried to check how it does

[late swallow]

yeah that's why I said earlier my artificed charge kits will go to my supports xD

[peak void]

Pull her for the idle animation and all good will follow

[late swallow]

I pulled for her special dash

[bitter nebula]

valid reason

[gritty olive]

is combustion a heat infliction on itself

[late swallow]

it should be?

[peak void]

isnt it arts reac

idt laeva consumes combustion

[late swallow]

but I don't think Laev steals combustion to fuel her skill no

Laev doesn't

tried earlier

[glass birch]

Combo skill

[twin plover]

~~ Could this be it? Assuming the enemies had 20 initial points of heat res that negate your 20 res ignore from 4 stacks But then their resistance stated in game should be D so 0 points...~~
I'm just dumb, the stacks were gone before the cast

[glass birch]

Lae's combo skill (que'd when a target is inflicted w/ combust) gives 1 melting flame

[late swallow]

no no no I was talking she doesn't because of this

but ty ❤️

[glass birch]

oh yeah. Basics only care about heat infliction specifically

[gritty olive]

yeqh. but how did yoi get 24%?

i was about take a nap but wtv

[twin plover]

I see it now, you lost your stacks right before the skill

So they have 0 resistance points and you just had 0 res ignore

Anyways

From there

[gritty olive]

its 0 resignore vs 0res since i waited for the buff to go away before i casted

[twin plover]

24% * 1.454 is about 35% just like the doc says

[gritty olive]

wellshit

[twin plover]

Yeah, I missed that

But what could have gone wrong in your calc then

[gritty olive]

i probably multipljed 1.454 twice

[twin plover]

That would have made this higher than the in-game dmg, no?

Probably doesn't matter anyways

[twin plover]

This is still a mystery to me tho

[late swallow]

what are you guys trying to figure out?

[peak void]

Life

we are theorycrafting life itself

[plush spoke]

has anything with the last rite team changed?

or is the guide still up to date for the new content

[open hare]

Naw

[open hare]

I recognize that pfp

You cant hide from me

[plush spoke]

i stole it from a reddit post like 5 or 6 years ago my guy, if you know what its from that makes one of us

[twin plover]

Combustion dmg from calcs was different from the one in-game but I think it's figured out already. Probably there was a typo somewhere in the multipliers during calcs

[craggy pond]

this is the one thing i still don't understand even after stripping everything down

[open hare]

You know what I mean

[craggy pond]

it could be a mistranslation

[plush spoke]

yeah i dont my guy

[twin plover]

This word scares me after checking the attribute resistance screenshot

[plush spoke]

and, lets for a moment, pretend its not ridiculous you can even notice that, what makes you think its socially acceptable to just straight talk about that

[open hare]

Honestly Google translate ain't translating all of that

[plush spoke]

im just trying to build my last rite team for bosses my guy, i spent the guaruntee i was holding for tangtangs weapon on khravv

[open hare]

Tangtangs weapon

[drifting berry]

People are not prepared to Tangtang's weapon

[tight haven]

gun stanza

[open hare]

Rpg

[gritty olive]

garbage

[plush spoke]

shes coming next patch, had 16k arsenal tickets free to play, decided to make a bad decicion and dropped them all to get last rites weapon

[gritty olive]

:diesof

[drifting berry]

Myself included, I got like 2 arsenal single pulls

[open hare]

Tangtang is gonna rocket jump like soldier

[plush spoke]

i figured id get lucky, since i got 3 gilbertas in 30 pulls, but no, had to hit pity on it

got leavatains and gilbertas weapons in one pull, but of course the random 6*'s sig i decide to gamble on makes me spend all my arsenal credits lol

[gritty olive]

i still dont know how to calculate the combustion damage

this is the closest i have

[plush spoke]

oooh complicated math, i like this, did some of warframes on pen and paper

[twin plover]

Are you calcing Laev's skill?

[plush spoke]

we have a source for the equations?

[gritty olive]

yeah the forced combustion

[twin plover]

233% is multi for initial hit lvl 1, no?

[normal tangle]

anyone know how much damage each person in the laeva team contributes

in ideal conditions

[gritty olive]

im not going to calc that

maybe like 5% wulf

[normal tangle]

yeah just vibes is fine

idc about exact numbers i'm just not a knower

[drifting berry]

Why do we care about combustion damage now? Did something happen

[normal tangle]

like is laeva doing >90%? or should i actually bother with investing in my other characters

[gritty olive]

im forced to include due to laev p3

kill me on this spot

please

[craggy pond]

i think it know what it means now, it ignores dmg% that's not elemental like battle skill or stagger or stuffs like that

[gritty olive]

thats normal

[twin plover]

Ok, that's true cause I tested that just a moment ago

[tight haven]

gilb contributes a not-insignificant amount if on her

[gritty olive]

arts% and type% should count

[normal tangle]

gilb laeva feels bad

grouping inflicts nature which fucks up ur heat

[tight haven]

you just dont use her bskill

gilb is just an ult bot

[craggy pond]

it's just that when it goes to the docs somehow it becomes "ignores all damage bonus%" which is just not true

[normal tangle]

wait that might be tech

[twin plover]

Well, to be more precise, Battle skill % doesn't affect it even if it's what triggers it. I wen't a bit too far there lol

[sick nexus]

This is why people say ardelia is better than gilberta in laevatain teams

[tight haven]

her combo and ult both deal very respectable aoe damage

[normal tangle]

her ult applies nature too

[tight haven]

you use her ult before you pop ebskill

[normal tangle]

[tight haven]

you dont actually care

[craggy pond]

wait what are you trying to calc here, her total dmg from battle skill?

[tight haven]

you can even benefit from it by converting it into a 4 stack corro with smart rotations

[edgy crater]

when does damage calculation started? on precast or when the weap/skill touch enemy hitbox?

[gritty olive]

yes since laevatain gets some combustion

[tight haven]

laev ult makes this really really easy assuming youre on ult spam

[twin plover]

But isn't her combustion DMG basically nothing since the initial hit is ignored?

[gritty olive]

im not sure. enion do it

[tight haven]

so gilb can contribute a 4-stack corro plus 33% susc at p0

its kinda nuts if you have the 'nads to figure out how to make it work for you

but even playing lazily you can kind of just spam her ult to kill off fodder in the overworld because it hits about as hard as laev off-ult ebskill with 2 slabs

[craggy pond]

but i mean are you trying calc her combustion dmg alone or like the entire battle skill, because combustion is lierally just the 1262 that you got

[normal tangle]

best potential in her kit

🗣️

[tight haven]

this is all just suggestions though

[normal tangle]

that's 2.25x to total combustion damage baby

huge increase

[craggy pond]

if we're doing the entire skill then it should also take in account of the basic sequence leading up to the additional attack

[gritty olive]

because theres another damage tick when i did ebs

a 25669 and 33153(with lvl11 skill)
the extra damage has 710% scaling, and it matches the 25669 one better

[normal tangle]

is that website discord on opera gx

[craggy pond]

that's the additional attack, the attack stat you inputted is wrong, from your video it's 5757

[normal tangle]

are you at work or something man

[gritty olive]

i dont use discord application tho i have it downloaded

hassle

[twin plover]

Weren't there 2 enemies stacked and one just didn't eat the full initial DoT part so it was lower?

[gritty olive]

i recorded it again earlier

[craggy pond]

no, one just has more defense or resistance prob

it's the same tick of dmg with the 710%

[gritty olive]

so whats the 25669 and 33153 coming from? if the 1262 dot tick came from the 35%, one of the should come from the 233% one

[open hare]

What if you do all these calculations just for Laevatain to get absolutely powercrept

[craggy pond]

it comes from the 710%

that's the unique multiplier from her battle skill, has nothing to do with the combustion

[twin plover]

25669 - Skill without the dmg from charge
33153 - Charge + Blast

[gritty olive]

so theres a 7.1, and a 7.1+2.33?

[craggy pond]

no, only 7.1

2.33 ONLY applies if it's a narutally procced combustion, which this is not

this is forced combustion

so if you're calcing the additional attack from ebs, it's 5757 * 0.5 * 7.1 * 1.256, and if you're calcing the combustion then it's 5757 * 0.24 * 1.454 * 0.5 * 1.256

[gritty olive]

ok im getting the 25669, but i cant "calculate" the 33153 one

[craggy pond]

do you know what the specific enemy is

so i can check their stats

[twin plover]

What if you added Base explosion + 6* DMG Over Time Mult to the Additional Attack mult?

Cause this is the ratio of dmg1/dmg2 and mult1/mult2 I'm getting

[gritty olive]

standard bonekrusher

0.5 def mult, 0 res

so you can just consider the 0.5 multiplier from defense alone

[gritty olive]

i think the dmg over time is from the initial cast of the skill before it explodes

[twin plover]

Yeah and this part only hit the enemy in front. the ones taking less were too far to take dmg from the "ball" but close enough for the enhanced explosion to get them

At least that's what I think happened

[craggy pond]

well i mean it's weird because this happens at the time of the additional attack and by this point the entire initial part should already be disregarded

[twin plover]

You mean shown as a separate number in combat?

[gritty olive]

well shit

why did someone take more damage over the other

[craggy pond]

well that too but also i don't think the whole initial sequence has anything to do with the additional attack

[gritty olive]

welp

anyways thanks guys, i think i now know what to do next

[twin plover]

0:03 - ball starts casting, both get hit by the initial explosion
Then the one on the right gets all damage from the ball's DoT
Then both get hit by the blast

Since the one on the left wasn't being hit by the DoT, enough time passed for the "Initial Blast" Dmg to disappear and the 25k is the exact explosion dmg.

the one on the right was being constantly damaged by the attack so the final number is Initial blast + DoT + Explosion

[normal tangle]

they didn't

the initial hit kept visually stacking dmg, other one ran out

[craggy pond]

so basically you're saying the additional attack is being squeezed with the final tick of the dot

[normal tangle]

basically it just clumped it into one big hit

[twin plover]

Yep

and the initial blast too

[craggy pond]

i mean that actually makes sense to me ngl

if say her battle skill has 6 sequences, and the additional attack happens at the same time as the last tick then that would be the exact number

[normal tangle]

oh i didn't read the wall of text that was already there

my image helped surely

[twin plover]

I was about to do this then I noticed you just sent it lol

[craggy pond]

ig it's just weird because the numbers weren't separated even though they're technically 2 separate ticks of dmg

[normal tangle]

more visually satisfying to build the number instead

apex style

gachas love micro-optimizing dopamine

[craggy pond]

so it's 7.1 + 1.29 + 0.13*6

[twin plover]

8 ticks tbh but I'm just nitpicking atp

Yeah

[craggy pond]

so she has 2 more ticks after the additional attack?

oh you mean like total

then yeah

[twin plover]

Yeah, I counted each DoT tick as a separate one

[craggy pond]

i meant like at the moment of the additional attack

[twin plover]

If you mean the "whatever charging the ball accumulated" + "explosion dmg" then yeah, you can look at it this way

Hope I'm not overcomplicating cause I think you already got what I meant before

[dry kindle]

Permanent account damage

[twin plover]

Bricked, go next

[gritty olive]

bottom line is

the damage was different because each was taking different amount of ""dot"" damage

and the 24k vs 30k one is just "final damage accumulated"?

[normal tangle]

if you're counting the ability dmg before explosion as "dot", yes

[gritty olive]

mf

[normal tangle]

technically not correct but whatever

[open hare]

Huh

[twin plover]

Some got hit with more "stages" of the skill cast, they took more damage.
If an enemy gets hit by full Laev skill cast, all the numbers are displayed as one

Does this work?

And this is only outside of her ult form I believe

[craggy pond]

well, in the end, basically the total damage for the entire battle skill would be 5757 * (7.1 + (1.29 * 6) + (0.13 * (6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1)) + (0.24 * 1.454)) * 1.256 * 0.5

[peak void]

is ult m3 endmin enough or should i also m3 their bs

[twin plover]

(0.13 * (6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1))
If this is meant to be pasted into a calculator, it's just *6 here

[edgy crater]

anyone know how xaihi ulti calculate? is it 24 + int multi <=36% or int multi <= 36% + 24%?

[craggy pond]

but it ramps up no

[gritty olive]

since im only considering the dmg of combustion + dot, id remove the 7.1 no?

[craggy pond]

the first tick of the initial explosion is 1.29 + 0.13, the second is 1.29 + 0.13*2, and so on

[craggy pond]

but why would you leave the additional attack out if it's for the entire skill

[gritty olive]

because i already have the 7.1 considered

[craggy pond]

oh then yeah

[gritty olive]

its just the forced combustion damage that im lacking

like i already have this number for enhanced skill(with 20 res ignore)

[twin plover]

I don't see the skill description say anything about it ramping up.

Here it's 4664 -> 5134 -> 5604
5134 - 4664 = 470
5604 - 5134 = 470

DoT tick 1 deals the same amount as tick 2

(In response to @craggy pond )

[gritty olive]

(7.7+1.4) * 5756 * 1.256 * 1.2 * 0.5 = matches number above

[dry kindle]

Oh FML

I forgot to call the operator xp system cringe in the survey

[peak void]

anyone know

[craggy pond]

well yes but when calculating the total damage you have to account for these ticks accumulated. Like let's say for dmg after 2 ticks it's 1.29 * 2 + (0.13 * (2 + 1)) and so on

[edgy crater]

oi sworce, u know how xaihi ulti being calculated?

[late swallow]

I wouldnt level up any bs above 6, the % are way too low just finishers deal damage
dummy

oh nvm

[craggy pond]

the ramp up part is in reference to the total dmg post dot calculation

[late swallow]

bs = skill

[twin plover]

If one tick is 0.13, then 0.13 * (2+1) is the dmg from 3 ticks, no?

If you want 2 ticks, it's just 0.13 * 2

[open hare]

.

[dry kindle]

1200 cap

[craggy pond]

well yes, because as you can see the second tick of the explosion is basically 2 ticks of the dot + 1 tick of the explosion

whereas the first explosion is only 1 tick of the dot

[edgy crater]

@dry kindle so the later formula? shes capped at 60%?

[craggy pond]

simply put if you only take 0.13 * 6 that would be the same as saying all 6 explosions deal the same dmg as the first one

[dry kindle]

Ya

[edgy crater]

[edgy crater]

btw, whats the current highest int u can get with her?

[open hare]

Miku dayo.

[dry kindle]

Idk

Probably like 900

[edgy crater]

da heck 900? which set wtf

[open hare]

900+

[late swallow]

I got 800 on Pog, its doable

[twin plover]

Maybe we talk about different stuff. Each does the same damage. the numbers you see are all "adding up" to the final one. If it goes 4k -> 4.5k -> 5k -> 5.5k it doesn't mean you dealt (4k + 4.5k + 5k + 5.5k) total damage. Just the last 5.5k is what you dealt

[dry kindle]

Frontiers

[edgy crater]

full frontier?

[craggy pond]

well i mean if you show me that video i would think it's the former 100% of the time, because the way it works in most games is each number that pops up is a separate instance of dmg

[edgy crater]

w8, is it with max pot deto?

[gritty olive]

this is what i thought as well

[craggy pond]

plus i think that's just the way it works here no?

i don't think it would accumulate the dot on top of the base explosion while showing the same tick of dmg over and over

[gritty olive]

basic attacks that have three ticks display them as separate

500 + 500 + 500, not 500 + 1000 + 1500

why is this not consistent

[twin plover]

Even here you can look at the HP bar. The 4k initial blast deals a significant chunk, then it's 6 small ones.Each of them is a DoT tick. If it was the way you say, it would've been initial hit + 6 chunks each one bigger than the previous

[late swallow]

if you mean by how it shows here, dot damage is shown as a diff tick no?

[dry kindle]

Whatever's on the sheet

[edgy crater]

[craggy pond]

no i get your point but that's why i'm kinda confused rn the way numbers pop up independently

[late swallow]

also I think the explosion damage is shown at lets say 0.8s when the tick is shown at 0.9s, the explosion happens before the next tick no? maybe im tripping mb

[gritty olive]

its just weird

right enemy took the full brunt so theres the 7478 that was missing

7484 rather

[craggy pond]

basically if they wanna show dmg accumulated like that, the way most games would handle this is having the number just sitting there accumulating as opposed to disappearing into the next tick

[late swallow]

unironically use fortnite as an example

[late swallow]

wait they do, during yvonne's ultimate her damage is shown ramping up

so they can be shown as ramping

[gritty olive]

so what happened is, the left guy only took the initial 4k something damage, then they got dealt by 25669. total is around 29k

the right guy took full 7484 damage and they got dealt 25669, so the total displayed is 33153?

[craggy pond]

but i mean that would explain for why the additional attack was "mushed" together with the final tick

because the game just shows it as accumulated dmg

[twin plover]

Yep

[gritty olive]

[craggy pond]

it's just such a confusing approach imo

[late swallow]

maybe its a limitation on the actual game tick speed so they just get cramped together if the difference between a dot and an hit is less than .Xs

[craggy pond]

but eh ig that's how it works

[steady gate]

game does this, also annoying if the enemy is knocked out of the DoT so you have to figure out how many ticks the enemy took.

[gritty olive]

8.39 * 5756 * 0.5 * 1.256 = 30k ish

im backtracking the 30k

[twin plover]

there was a 30k as one number somewhere?

[gritty olive]

maybe those small ticks were the 13%?

[late swallow]

ping to see the video

[twin plover]

They are, yes

[late swallow]

personally I would take small numbers as dots

[gritty olive]

fuck

[late swallow]

makes sense to me at least

[gritty olive]

there it is

[late swallow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/futakana-smug-anime

[gritty olive]

the 33179 damage is the initial 129, six ticks of 13%, and the final 710

[craggy pond]

basically if the game were to stay consistent with the way it displays dmg, it should've showed 4664 470 470 470 470 470 25669

[dawn patrol]

wait so if i'm getting this right the 33k is the total damage instead of just the final hit? or are they separate

[craggy pond]

but it does this instead

[craggy pond]

well that actually explains a lot now

[late swallow]

final ig

[twin plover]

Let's go, we got it

[gritty olive]

@dawn patrol

thanks for participating this wildgoose chase with me

[dawn patrol]

what the fuck i always thought it was just the final hit

[gritty olive]

so the 4k one is just

LOL

[craggy pond]

it's basically the total dmg of the entire skill

dumb asf

[dawn patrol]

why would they do it like this

[gritty olive]

this is the skill usage against that enemy who didnt get the 13% "dot"

[late swallow]

wait I forgot who was talking about consistency, but
Yvonne's multihit are shown as ramping up
Laev's BA is shown as 4 different ticks at the same time
Laev's BS is shown as a total damage

@w@ oh well

[dawn patrol]

arknights endfield be consistent challenge

[gritty olive]

lets make this a reddit post

[late swallow]

reddit gold

[gritty olive]

anyways now you see why im very meticulous about my simulations

[craggy pond]

make it big ts took 2 hours of my life

[gritty olive]

i just dont blindly calc

[late swallow]

it was fun tho ngl

[gritty olive]

do you guys know that the rank9 laev ult uses rank10 numbers

i wasted time

[late swallow]

her multis?

[gritty olive]

basically, enhanced N1 and N2 uses rank9 ult mults
enhanced N3 and N4 uses m1 ult mults

[dawn patrol]

why

[gritty olive]

because fuck us thats why

[twin plover]

You mean in your calc?

Or in the game

[craggy pond]

don't question just accept it

[gritty olive]

in the game

[twin plover]

Lol

[gritty olive]

i sent this to guoba but

ill try to find that video

[late swallow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vtuber-ina

another inconsistency to endfield

[dawn patrol]

i feel like this might be a genuine mistake LOL

anyway see y'all in a bit i have to go pick up my fried chicken

[late swallow]

if more people try it and the damage is shown as the same we should report it right

[gritty olive]

its very rare to see a r9 ult laev this late

[late swallow]

... mine is

[gritty olive]

go

slap something

[late swallow]

gimme 10-20 minutes my HDD is way too old to load this game

[gritty olive]

if you try to compare the N1/N2, N1/N3, N1/N4 ratios, the second and third ones are incorrect

but if you look up to the m1 multiplier of N3 and N4, it will be correct

[modest thorn]

anyone know what the rotation would be for ult build laevatain, gilberta, ardelia and antal if i start with no ult?

[mental wyvern]

does anyone know the link for this or the actual excel sheet? so i can ctrl f some stats?

[late swallow]

so the multipliers are shown as upgraded but the actual ingame calcs are wrong?

[gritty olive]

think of it like this

if youre doing r9 ult basic attacks, these are the actual multipliers

[late swallow]

I'll see if my ult is at m9 and record something

[gritty olive]

[late swallow]

'-' how

[gritty olive]

idk

[late swallow]

this game should add a target dummy

[amber vapor]

In lieu of recent theorycrafting vs feelscrafting

[gritty olive]

this is from my testing

[amber vapor]

Yeah we all want one now for a proper controlled testing environment

[late swallow]

yup m9

[gritty olive]

go

get bamboozled

[modest thorn]

you be what?

[twin plover]

IWTL linked this site in his essence video https://datafield.cc/weapons
I haven't checked the data but hopefully there are no mistakes. You can filter the weapons by all 3 stats.

[gritty olive]

https://endfieldtools.dev/guides/essences/

theres this i use

[mental wyvern]

thank you all for the links love you all god bless you all

[dry mason]

where not Fracture

[late swallow]

can I send you the vid on dm? is way too shitty cuz I had to compress it down to 7mb

also a moth just flew into my fan and died

[gritty olive]

ok

or just stremable

https://streamable.com/

[modest thorn]

lucky

[late swallow]

me or the moth, also I'm uploading it

https://streamable.com/tbhnq6

her stats

[gritty olive]

we dont care abt the stats

we kust be comparing ult N1 -> N4

im eating rn so catchyall later

[late swallow]

kk

[hollow pine]

I have a double slab which I just throw on every main DPS on teams I play whenever I want to play diff lineups that's not endmin/Chen maind DPS. Yes pog double slab ain't best maybe but hits hard

will do in a few. Good morning. Man you're still at it. Peak dedication!

[late swallow]

hmmm I see the vision

[craggy pond]

this still follows the lvl 9 numbers all the way through

[hollow pine]

it's a build enough to trim for me so I have lots of resources for other chars I want to build like lifeng/Chen/ since phy teams set have Muti which is worth investing more

[tight haven]

i feel compelled to reiterate that double slab is just not a good way to be playing pog even if you want him to be your main dps

if you really really had to, he's not the worst aethertech user

[late swallow]

I know

[tight haven]

i get that "it works" but like its just mathematically not the way to be going

[late swallow]

I don't use Da Pan/Endmin either

[tight haven]

im partly saying this for the peanut gallery

i dont want people seeing this and thinking double slab pog is worth investing into

[hollow pine]

not a good way -maybe but if youre someone who likes to play almost every single lineup coz you enjoy varieties of teams and learning to use every single on of em. Resources wise you can get away with double slops

[tight haven]

yeah if you have them artificed and lying around its not bad since his main stat is will

but if you do care about being efficient pog's kit design is in conflict with him being a main dps in a phys context. he just is not meant to be the main damage dealer, but rather a support

again just saying this for people who might read this back

[urban dagger]

how the heck did you get to that level??

[bronze plume]

what about quad slab

[late swallow]

you wouldn't understand

[tight haven]

lynx slab pumps will hard

[rare rover]

filthy slabbers

[tight haven]

pog's main stat is will

[urban dagger]

Oh that makes sense

I use slabs on Ember

[bronze plume]

me when a set piece has only 1 stat boosting it to oblivion

[tight haven]

the atk numbers look big but its very low-value damage

[urban dagger]

bc I'm a filthy greatsword user in any game

[late swallow]

this is my pog without slabs

[urban dagger]

gotta bonk hard

[tight haven]

pog doesnt have the multipliers backing it up to make it worthwhile so you can give him all the atk in the world and almost everyone else in a proper phys team will just outdamage him atm

[late swallow]

Its fun

[tight haven]

it is

[late swallow]

I dont have fun with Laev tho

[tight haven]

look im not saying this to debate anyone here

[late swallow]

ik

[tight haven]

i really just dont want folks reading this later to get the wrong idea

[rare rover]

a fake believer

[tight haven]

this is still the tc channel so people expect us to be like

a bit more serious lol

[late swallow]

never was one

[late swallow]

ye

[rare rover]

[rare rover]

im very serious

im a very serious man

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

if you were serious you'd be using double slab ardelia

[gritty olive]

@proven rapids do ypu still have that vid

oops wrong ping. @tight haven

[rare rover]

filthy scum slabber

[tight haven]

what vid

[bronze plume]

can we theory craft how long itll take to get more crowns

my ardelia has ran out

[gritty olive]

like you havr rank9 abilities and you fought rhodan

[urban dagger]

Ik when we get more

[tight haven]

oh

[gritty olive]

the streamable link has expired so

just realized

the font is the same

[hollow pine]

I actually went to YT and search DPS pog lmao https://youtu.be/0cgo1Aiq92k?si=FNG3JFNL5CZjQ131

I thought I'm crazy

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

ok this was not me

[hollow pine]

but yeah the game is so peak as long as you want it it can work

[tight haven]

it does work but this sort of thing is just a meme compared to what proper phys can do

ik im being annoying abt it i dont think i need to repeat why

[tight haven]

you got someone else to record this

i think

[late swallow]

its fine we get it, but people who love X character will do funny things with them one day, its normal

[tight haven]

all the videos i have on hand from when you made me test was me going out and whacking mobs

[bronze plume]

speaking of funny thing

[tight haven]

i get you it doesnt come from a place of me wanting to look better or anything

[bronze plume]

dps ardelia what set we thinking

[tight haven]

its genuinely just

people have come in here

seen us tc'ing ember strats 4fun

got the wrong idea

thought ember dps was unironically lifeng-tier

[late swallow]

yeah they spend time and resources on a meme build

[tight haven]

and then they see what real phys does

and go oh shit

[urban dagger]

what is Lifend tier? Sorry first time tuning into the chat

[tight haven]

i just spent like a week of resources on a joke team

[gritty olive]

I SWEAR TO GOD THIS WAS NOT THE CASE WHEN I WAS SIMMING IT

[late swallow]

anyways the problem rn is Laev and her wacky inconsistency on damage as shown ingame

[gritty olive]

[craggy pond]

maybe they secretly patched it who knows

[late swallow]

thats what im thinking lol

[tight haven]

ember is often seen as an alternative to lifeng in a standard phys team (pog, chen, endmin/dapan, lifeng) but shes strictly worse in almost all contexts

[late swallow]

tbh I use ember instead of a crush dps but its just a lazy man build, I dont recommend this as an endgame one

[tight haven]

yeah it works that way too

[late swallow]

free heals and vuln but not that great overall

[tight haven]

ovviously far worse but its functional ofc

it is worth noting as well that legitimately nothing in the game is that difficult rn

[craggy pond]

i don't think i have ever seen accumulated dmg being displayed this way as separate ticks of dmg, but maybe i'm just old

[gritty olive]

This isnwhat i had

[tight haven]

catcher can solo lv90 umbral monument (except for the gas stage)

[gritty olive]

2 weeks ago

[late swallow]

only Yvonne's damage ramps up

[gritty olive]

Im not insane

[late swallow]

I saw that

[craggy pond]

does it do the same thing as surtr's battle skill?

[late swallow]

they saw and patched it

[late swallow]

you can see Kuratine's video up there, it doesn't

[urban dagger]

Made me want to make an alt account and just solo everything I can with him

[tight haven]

i did catcher solos in beta, very fun to do

hes a great challenge op

has a huge damage reduction window so you can kind of just play dark souls with him

[late swallow]

im lurking here to see if someone cooks a dps Arclight btw

[tight haven]

arclight is getting fucking cooked rn

shes basically jobless thanks to akekuri

[late swallow]

Akek keeps winning even after being nerfed

[bronze plume]

arclight in cbt1: i use to rule the world

[late swallow]

but Arc is so pretty I wanna use her as a main dps yk

[tight haven]

they didnt kneecap her enough

[urban dagger]

Waifu > meta

[late swallow]

I was dunking on Akek til I tried her out

[bronze plume]

arclight made vanguards as a whole come into cbt2 therefore making akekuri exist therefore she nerfed herself

[tight haven]

120 ult charge and still shitting on the sp economy

[late swallow]

and she is just a ult bot right

full charge%

[bronze plume]

yeah full charge% unless doing bosses

[tight haven]

in which case she uses frontiers yea

[late swallow]

any database for these tcs or just this chat?

[bronze plume]

its only really speedrunner activities that care for the frontier

[tight haven]

also in elec you just pump frontiers

all the time

[bronze plume]

god i hope

rossi

[twin plover]

I feel like hot work could cook here.

[bronze plume]

makes ake cry

[late swallow]

Rossi as a vanguard?

[tight haven]

rossi replaces wulf trust

that would suck

[late swallow]

I bet she's Wulf's best sup tho

[dawn patrol]

that would super suck yeah lmao

[late swallow]

she makes Wulf a dps

[tight haven]

let me use them together

💔

[bronze plume]

if she would make wulf a dps

laev will just be better so like

[dawn patrol]

i hope rossi powercreeps the shit out of ake

[twin plover]

Rossi creeps Laeva actually and wulf supports her, trust

[late swallow]

buy 1 rossi get 2 buffs

[bronze plume]

for heat teams*

[tight haven]

all rossi needs to do unironically is have link + amp or some shit

[bronze plume]

ake shoulda just be a general master of none good at all kinda vanguard

[dawn patrol]

if rossi is actually a heat striker i think the community would riot

[bronze plume]

but instead they gave her link and thermite and ez access to ult spam

[tight haven]

if you want amp in heat youre still forced to use cringe ass antal

[twin plover]

I'm coping so hard she is phys cause if she's fire no way she's a dps

[bronze plume]

link + amp + sp regen + is sword = thermite = W

[dawn patrol]

heat vg incoming

[twin plover]

Could be even nature for all I care, jut a dps

[late swallow]

I dont think he's cringe but having a shitload of sp?

[tight haven]

her sig just needs to be thermite with ult eff

surely

[normal tangle]

lowkey is the future of physical doomed

i don't see how they'll improve upon this

[tight haven]

hes cringe because his amp amount is fraudulent

[late swallow]

best team in the game, trust me

[late swallow]

14% 🔥

[tight haven]

but hes the best we're getting

[normal tangle]

they'll add a limited crush unit...but then what

where do you go from there

[dawn patrol]

heat xaihi soon™

[late swallow]

a new vuln bot to give Chen some rest

tbh I think Tangtang is phys

[twin plover]

Similar units, bigger numbers. Always works

[potent hornet]

give me a cryo link provider

[late swallow]

oh yeah cryo exists...

[tight haven]

cryo needs a vangaurd

oh my god bruh

[bronze plume]

yeah itll be hard for them to change how physical as a whole actually works itll just be the same thing with bigger numbers

[normal tangle]

bro doesn't know about alesh

[bronze plume]

stack 4 consume

[late swallow]

dont talk no thing about Alesh my fellow br

[bronze plume]

this is the way most will owrk

[tight haven]

alesh is NOT a cryo vanguard

hes 20% of a cryo vanguard

[potent hornet]

i'm really hoping tangtang is a cryo vanguard

[bronze plume]

alesh is a gambler

[dawn patrol]

alesh is a cryo vg if you're the luckiest mf on the planet

[bronze plume]

thats all he is

[late swallow]

a brazilian with a rng kit is way too close to home tbh

[normal tangle]

i'm really hoping that tangtang is bad so i don't have to pull her because i don't like her

[twin plover]

Aren't we all?

[deep topaz]

is this the best filter for farming Lae sig or should I change anything?

[bronze plume]

W

[valid zealot]

Wheres ur 27/27 starry

[normal tangle]

yuh this is good

[bronze plume]

wtf is a 27/27 starry

[normal tangle]

you can use https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/ btw

[bronze plume]

i am aware that exists

and personally idc bout it

[normal tangle]

no i was talking to the other guy

[bronze plume]

oh

im not the center of attention

[late swallow]

this guy

[valid zealot]

Arde sig pot5

[bronze plume]

🥀

[bronze plume]

what do you think i am

[normal tangle]

nobody wants you fr 💔

[valid zealot]

Insane

[bronze plume]

my wife did

i hope

[valid zealot]

Fym you hope

[dawn patrol]

time to boot up endfield just to do nothing for 30 mins

[bronze plume]

i like ardelia but im not going to blow like $800 for some pixels

[valid zealot]

Understandable.

[bronze plume]

not unless they make the game

actually good

[valid zealot]

You're married you're on the better side.

[bronze plume]

no im not she doesnt help the gacha addiction

[late swallow]

I wanna know about Laev's damage calcs tho, no news?

[valid zealot]

What did you get.

[deep topaz]

ohh I get confused when using this
it show even the ones not in wuling and you cant select multiple primary attributes

[normal tangle]

no you pick the weapon not the attribute

picking scathe shows this

tells you what primary to pick to farm what weapon

like for example you could do what you did, OR you can lock twilight instead to also farm rapid ascent

[bronze plume]

W my ardelia heals 673 per dolly (nobody make the joke or you will stub yo toe)

i just need to max the will on her gear now

[deep topaz]

ohh yeah but I feel like this feels easier to see in one glance

[boreal parcel]

is 1st or 2nd build better for laev?

[valid zealot]

2nd, slab is fake.

[valid zealot]

at your level.

[bronze plume]

thats cursed

thank you dolly

[valid zealot]

Nice heal.

[boreal parcel]

what does this mean

[bronze plume]

3153 healing per ardelia skill goes hard

[valid zealot]

Lynx slab is really niche.

Also check pins.

[bronze plume]

with maxed lynx ardelia probably hits 1200+ healing per dolly

[peak void]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[bronze plume]

thats gains

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-dies-dies-from-cringe-dying-from-cringe-dies-to-cringe-gif-7438506245051526559

[valid zealot]

Oh m g I dropped a 3/2/1 for da sheep.

[frozen tide]

What a goat

[peak void]

literally a goat

[normal ruin]

Hi, will there be increased chance of essence success if i use a higher lvl +4 for a +2 level up?

[valid zealot]

You wish.

I wish.

[peak void]

we wish 🔥

[normal ruin]

So i can say, same stat line does not matter when enhancing essences too?

I have been using the same line to enhance

[peak void]

doesnt matter yes

just get the right stats first time and dump wtvr in it

[normal ruin]

Alright thanks

[rich linden]

Gm chat

[frozen tide]

Gm

[boreal parcel]

whoever made that really hates yvonne lol

[dry mason]

@dry kindle

Am I graduated

[halcyon lark]

Hey guys... Can i use Endmin,Gilberta,yvonne,Xaihi for shatter team comp?

[halcyon lark]

like endmin can buff...

just not sure how much.

[late swallow]

you can use whoever you like but shatter is ran with endmin/alesh/estella no?

[halcyon lark]

I mean i saw endmin potential 1 and return 50sp is GOOOD.... Like why would i use estella that only gets 15sp back...

[late swallow]

alesh and estella are made for shatter

[halcyon lark]

yeah but gilberta already does that... I just want endmin to eat the vulnerability debuff...

so I can just use sheep to corrode.

[late swallow]

if you want endmin to eat vuln you make a phys team

[boreal parcel]

is antal or ake better for laev?

[late swallow]

ake

[halcyon lark]

Nooooo

[late swallow]

antal amp is tiny

[halcyon lark]

Ake is too beefed up.

antal was no match

[late swallow]

also your gilberta is buffing 0% of endmin's kit while you have a hypercarry (Yvonne) who does nothing on this team

Yvonne wants solidify not shatter

[halcyon lark]

I have gilberta's gacha weapon.

so I am buffing lol.

[late swallow]

it buffs arts

[halcyon lark]

NOOOO

Endmin skill isn't arts?

[modest thorn]

i thought antal was better in bosses

[halcyon lark]

Why does it look like arts...

[late swallow]

its phys

[halcyon lark]

AAAAAA

[late swallow]

he's a phys unit

[valid zealot]

For good reasons.

[green acorn]

Yvonne, aka we have Last Rite at home

[mystic halo]

antal is a good unit despite the nerfs

whenever we dont have to deal with AoE we still use him, cause 1 sp bar for 3 combos from him is still a part of the team's fundamental framework

if you have to bench someone for ake it's ardelia

[late swallow]

p5 Wulf gives 3... but then Antal's stocks goes up as well hmmm such a beautiful thing

[halcyon lark]

Yeah... I just found Gilberta/Yvonne/Endmin/Estella working...

3 stacks of vulnrbility.

[dry kindle]

imagine having p5 wulf

cant be me

[late swallow]

me neither

stuck at p3

[late swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1434277626914017310/Get_his_ass.gif

[open hare]

Hong Lu

[late swallow]

brother wants a phys team but cant drop his waifus

[open hare]

Hong Lu, let me hit on your sister

https://tenor.com/view/jia-xichun-limbus-company-xichun-gif-13060587557048632848

Is that a no?

[late swallow]

based heishou gameplay

that's why phys is the goat

[halcyon lark]

Welp, I am going lift team...

[late swallow]

its all phys

[open hare]

I'll take that as a yes

[late swallow]

lift is a builder to either breach or crush

[dawn patrol]

lift and knock down build, breach and crush consume is the tldr

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/jia-xichun-worm-jia-xichun-ishmael-worm-ishmael-fishmael-gif-11704989561247731114

[dawn patrol]

that's basically how you play phys extremely oversimplified

[late swallow]

he wont change his team tho he wants to use gilb and yvonne in a shatter team

[open hare]

Oh

[dawn patrol]

w-wrong reply?

[late swallow]

what

I wont delete that

[open hare]

Well, waifu's are waifus.

[dawn patrol]

LOL

[potent hornet]

if you want a waifu team just build LR

[dawn patrol]

yvonne doesn't shatter anyway why bother

[late swallow]

just build phys

[potent hornet]

oops all waifus

[late swallow]

all waifus and husbandos

[open hare]

I wouldn't drop my Hatsune Miku player model on garrys mod just to look like a badass military player

[dawn patrol]

NOOOOOOOO ERENION WHY AREN'T YOU THE LITTLE GERMAN BOY

[late swallow]

he wants to

[halcyon lark]

last rite doesn't really lift... she dead without her weapon...

[open hare]

Last Rite lifts my mood and ambition to work for my mats

[late swallow]

you can use this team, you'll get stuck on umbral monument tho

[boreal parcel]

sinclair already hitting that

[open hare]

You mean Don Quixote is already hitting that

[potent hornet]

[dawn patrol]

also gl with recrisis trims lol

[halcyon lark]

I wonder how are people getting Premium weapons... though...

[open hare]

Damn

[halcyon lark]

all i see are whales.

[open hare]

I wish they gave us a crate to MLB any 6 star weapons

[halcyon lark]

AAAAAA

[open hare]

Guys, where's my MLB black grail

[potent hornet]

not gonna lie i have spent a little bit

[open hare]

So I can one shot all the bosses

[potent hornet]

but not as much as you think

[open hare]

Everyone sacrifices a little to get what they want.

[potent hornet]

i got laev before the 50/50

and her sig on the first 10 pull

everything else went into getting kragg

wasn't playing when yvonne was available

[open hare]

I wish I had her weapon

Im 30 pulls away

[halcyon lark]

whose weapon yvonne?

[open hare]

Surtr

I mean Laevatain

[halcyon lark]

Ah...

[open hare]

Im 30 pulls away, but I want to save for Fangyi

To add another waifu to my collection

[dawn patrol]

i'm p2r2 laev so guess what

[open hare]

The whales are taking my luck

And so are the f2ps

[potent hornet]

i stopped pulling after i got p3 LR

i'm saving for tangtang now

[gritty olive]

to people who have LR

[dawn patrol]

yeah i stopped after p2 laev i'm saving for rossi now

[gritty olive]

i wanna play her. no khrav. is it bad

[potent hornet]

not worth it

[dawn patrol]

20% diff iirc

[frozen tide]

you can force pull atleast 1 sig f2p

[frozen tide]

if you want to just do it

[dawn patrol]

so it's pretty bleak

[open hare]

If you have no sig, you are dead

[frozen tide]

content is easy rn anyw

[open hare]

Your life will be suffering

It's like a helldiver without a drop pod

[potent hornet]

its doable but you won't have uber nukes on your ult

[halcyon lark]

Uhhh I don't want to do that... i'll wait next new premium character that might kick off the current banners...

[frozen tide]

then do that

[open hare]

Fuh it

If I get all the chests

[frozen tide]

people arent just whales because they used the free currency they were given tho lol

[open hare]

Surely I get something right

[frozen tide]

instead of saving

[open hare]

I want to save

But I need laevatain sig before it expires

Or I'm actually cooked

Im 30 pulls away from either winning or losing

[frozen tide]

im trusing that powercreep wont be bad to the point lr cant clear endgame within 3-4 patches

[open hare]

I have 14k only

[open hare]

I hope not

The only thing I have to clear is the factory

Thats the endgame

[potent hornet]

all we need is a cryo vanguard for her and that will boost her back up again

[open hare]

I mean

[frozen tide]

because lrs bs is locked behind fsing

[open hare]

Can we have snowshine do more parry damage please

[frozen tide]

cryo vanguard wont help that much unless the said cryo vanguard also buffs

[open hare]

What if they parry like snow shine

Double parry