theorycrafting

[tranquil burrow]

Fluorite 6 star alter

[tight haven]

according to people who signed ndas

i whaled on it a bit before realizing the devs actually didnt gaf

not even buying bp/monthly anymore bc the game lowkey might eos this year

[amber vapor]

The game is 100% a pump and dump at this point

It's like with Black Beacon

[tight haven]

yea it feels like that

[amber vapor]

I beta tested and told them they're gonna get fucked

It released to even more aggressive monetization

[tight haven]

unsure what happened to BB

i only heard horror stories

[muted charm]

Yo gang what's the highest dmg you've seen in endfield

[amber vapor]

BB had game breaking bugs and terrible monetization

[tight haven]

damn

[tight haven]

per screenshot or just as a single nuke?

for both cases probably last rite

[amber vapor]

And they bent over backwards for CN players while kicking the global players to the curb

Kinda like with P5X

[tight haven]

she can hit like 1.5mil single hits

[amber vapor]

CN market is just so damn strong

[tight haven]

ahhhhhh right

[tranquil burrow]

Another game with unexpectedly peak writing got hit with some bad early communication that spiralled out of control and misinfo agenda took it by storm

[amber vapor]

It's crazy how CN bros can keep a dying star alive

[muted charm]

On marble aggeloi no defense or all bosses

[tranquil burrow]

there was no "kick global to the curb and pander to CN" nonsense that I still see to this day

[amber vapor]

Yeah I was active in the lore scene of BB

Literally wrote an explanation on all the quantum physics

Left after release when nothing got better

[tranquil burrow]

Idk what quantum physics was in BB but the characterization in that game really was something else

[amber vapor]

Quantum tunneling, entanglement, spacetime travel, etc

How the library and Aten worked especially with how cyclical the storyline was because it was following quantum physics

Anyways that's nerd shit

If Endfield ever taps into quantum physics I'll write a explanation for it lmao

[tranquil burrow]

I felt the game was more romantic than hard science when it came to that stuff. It never tried to overexplain stuff and focused more on characterization than anything.

but either way

Peak writing

[amber vapor]

I think 1.5mil was on Rod

[tranquil burrow]

Gave me cyberpunk vibes, where the MC felt like the library itself than any single character (like in cyberpunk night city is basically the MC)

[rare nimbus]

Just for self clarification when I am gearing chars I want to focus on their primary attribute and when able to put some focus on their secondary attribute right along with whatever set effect benefits the chars play style? Im finally able to start crafting the lv 70 gear so I dont wanna F myself over

[muted charm]

For main DPS yeah for supports that doesn't matter as much unless some talent or ability scales on a specific attribute

[tranquil burrow]

and gear crafting is basically free, hard to F yourself over

[rare nimbus]

okay, Yvonne is my main DPS, but eventually ill be making other teams but I wanna focus on her for now

[rare nimbus]

Im still working on getting myself more bills atm so when I say f myself i meant as in waste the bills lmao

[muted charm]

Nah gear crafting is really cheap it's gear artificing that gets expensive

Did u just get to wuling?

[tranquil burrow]

you get a 90% bill refund if you dismantle gear btw

[shut cobalt]

theres no chance of ake/wulf sets being replaced, right? (want to artifice them)

[rare nimbus]

nah i been here. I finished everything. I was focusing on doing all the side missions while my factory did its thing for the last day or 2

I been doing delivery depots to get bills to craft gear tho

[summer flower]

Can't find wuling delivery Jobs transfered

[tranquil burrow]

the seals are fairly versatile even in the event the chars or their sets get replaced

[summer flower]

Ohh wait

Its higher upgrade for depot than avaible?

[shut cobalt]

i c, but what about the other gear of the set

[tranquil burrow]

ake herself risks being replaced if rossi in 1.1 is heat vanguard

[summer flower]

People are like "attack is most important stat" meanwhile they don't use purple gear with attack %

[shut cobalt]

so wait on her replacement and just artifice/level wulf instead?

[drifting quest]

depends if we get new good supportive sets

impossible to say

[muted charm]

I mean your sacking a lot of attribute bonus if u do that also most main dps prob have some sort of atk% in their kit or weapon

[shut cobalt]

but rn thats the best possible for laev team? im asking since the gears for the team have been replaced time and time again

[drifting quest]

is there a chance sets will be replaced? yes see akekuri on electric going back to frontiers because she can have a low enough ult gain breakpoint

[supple epoch]

They nerfed my baby wukong so I’ve been on only a few days a year since lol

Warframe can feel quite lonely to play

But having a minion with infinite ammo on nuke bows made me feel better

xD

[shut cobalt]

? @drifting quest

[drifting quest]

best we know of

its up to you if you wish to risk it

you certainly dont need to for any current content

[shut cobalt]

so there could be better sets proven better as we test more, right?

[drifting quest]

potentially yes

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

i'll just wait then

[west moon]

If we get AK modules, how would they function in EF?

Theorycrafting right here

[winged delta]

that's way past theorycrafting haha

[west moon]

No synergies and no combos

[winged delta]

It's probably just an extra equipement to slap on

I like how "simple" kits are yet synergy is already existing

There are so many ways toa dd complexity now, they didn't hit the ceiling right off the bat

There's a world between the visual clutter of Wuva and AK

And I like that AK is alrdy enjoyable as is

I wouldn't mind a module actually adding extra hits to skills or whatnot

but that's far

[amber vapor]

Higher complexity in this game could arise from multi-element reactions

Like I was surprised that solidification can only be broken by a physical skill

I was expecting some sort of "melt" status

Like imagine if a frozen character can be melted, causing steam DMG, and then become wet and then that wetness can cause them to be electrified and stunned

[heavy fossil]

wish we got more multi element team aside from shatter

[twilit quail]

ooh is this the biggest so far on obt

[sterile patrol]

steamed hams?

[summer flower]

BT DOESNT COUNT

Also open beta?

[tranquil burrow]

is this maindps wulf

[summer flower]

Ohh wait maybe China had it?

[winged delta]

It's probably a condition to have the game function.
If one element could react with 2+ others, you would not be able to create any combos without breaking the pattern mid combo.
No one would synergies with no one.

[summer flower]

I never Heard of open beta

[amber vapor]

CN version of gachas is always in open beta

[winged delta]

The idea is that once you hit 2 elements, you effectively "clean" the enemy for a new combo

[amber vapor]

It's a legal thing

[winged delta]

Prob would be way too messy if everything reacted with everything

[amber vapor]

Yeah but imagine if an enemy with corrosion could be hit with fire and then cause a massive aoe explosion

[winged delta]

What they could do is add more follow-up to Art reactions, just like Laevatein combo on Combustion, they can still push it further

We have like 10% of what is really available

[heavy fossil]

really late to the other convo but pgr is pretty fun if you can somewhat keep up with meta or don’t concern yourself with leaderboards. Nice to never skip charscters

Is corrosion ever used on any teams?

[winged delta]

on lavabean

It's a debuff for the enemy with Ardelia

Idk about other teams, prob any team that uses Ardelia tbh

[drifting quest]

electric, last rite and laev can all use it

this is without considering ardelia

[heavy fossil]

so is it kinda like perlica with electrification?

[drifting quest]

ardelia force applies corrosion the same way perlica force applies electrification

wow there's like

so many

genuinely what scam are they falling for

[summer flower]

?

[drifting quest]

they were both pretty storied accounts

the scam posters

2 back to back

from old accounts

[summer flower]

With activity here?

Like account Age is irrevelant, time since they joined is irrevelant also

[drifting quest]

my point was curiosity at how they are getting hacked

especially older accounts which should be owned by more aware and mature people

[amber vapor]

Average discord user lacks literacy against phishing

[summer flower]

Ehh

You know that account can be made

[winged delta]

see g o o n

[summer flower]

And be hold in storage

[winged delta]

click

[summer flower]

Then sold

[winged delta]

gg

[drifting quest]

no these are real people

with message histories

[summer flower]

Ehh

[drifting quest]

and in lots of servers

[heavy fossil]

well I mean there are a ton of discord users so even 1% of the user base is still a lot

[summer flower]

Okay, then its probably them getting infected

[drifting quest]

yeah which was my point

what are they falling for

there's like 10 a day now

[amber vapor]

Yeah it's real users that fall for phishing scams in dms and then have their accounts hacked

[drifting quest]

im curious what exactly is baiting so many people

[summer flower]

Man, Minecraft mod once had virus in it

[amber vapor]

These scams have been around for a long time

And kids fall prey to them a lot

[summer flower]

And it was attack done on developer of that mod

[amber vapor]

Lack of tech literacy

[heavy fossil]

the only one ppl have tried on me is the one where they say someone with your account details did some purchase or smth

[tight haven]

accidental clicks

could be anything

[drifting quest]

i am aware of viruses and phishing scams

i know how they are losing their accounts

[bitter cove]

some scammer getting creative nowsday
theres like "hi, ur pfp looks cute, where did u get them from?"

[amber vapor]

There is also bank phishing scams now too

[drifting quest]

i am curious what exactly is the bait that is enticing enough for them to do it

[summer flower]

Man, fact that freaking browsers

And email providers

[drifting quest]

its 1 operation because its the same scam every time

[amber vapor]

Selling data

[drifting quest]

and its focused around specifically this server

[summer flower]

Don't ban symbols looking like normal letters

[amber vapor]

Yeah it sucks so much

[drifting quest]

because they keep getting people who were in this server and talking

[amber vapor]

It's not focused on just this server

It's any server with a large pop

[hexed edge]

we have some site for dps sim?

[summer flower]

Its any sever

[heavy fossil]

iirc see the same scam across other servers

[summer flower]

Even smoll as heck

[drifting quest]

maybe its just me but ive yet to see this exact one in others

[summer flower]

But smoll as heck its usually scraped invitie to bot posting links

[drifting quest]

but my bad if it is prevelant

[amber vapor]

Yeah no these scams have been happening since like 2019

Especially with how easy it is to use salted emails for phishing scams

[drifting quest]

this exact one

[summer flower]

With incentive for discord to have more users

They aren't really diligent with that

[amber vapor]

Essentially these scams will have you click a link that binds your discord credentials to the website

[drifting quest]

are you talking about general phishing scams

or this exact one

with the same images

[amber vapor]

Same scam just slightly different looking

[summer flower]

The fact

[amber vapor]

Like the modus operandi hasn't changed

[summer flower]

That's single click

Without two factor

Its just saying how discord would prefer inflated user count

[amber vapor]

Yeah discord does tell you though when a connection has access to your login info

[summer flower]

No, like

If one link, without confirmation from email

Or from whatever two factor you wanna use

Is giving such Access its BS on discord part

[amber vapor]

Discord isn't liable for a user lacking literacy

I am in no way defending discord but that's just the reality

If you get phished that's on you

[summer flower]

Okay, lemme put unlabled poison on dinner table

That's Has very specific odor that chemist would recognize as poison

Who is at fault when someone drinks it?

You got my point?

[frozen tide]

Phishing has been getting more advanced

Most are rly easy to tell

[summer flower]

Man, first thing

[frozen tide]

But some use imbed to make the link look legit

[summer flower]

Who never tapped something by accident?

[frozen tide]

And the actual link is a domain very similar in letter

Or look

[summer flower]

Sam fact that touchscreen accident could happen due to new message

Or mouse click or whatever

Or you are not sober

[midnight stirrup]

Bro the fact people can get your information just by u clicking on a link is wild to me

[west moon]

This thing was too stupid to be called a sword

Too thick, too bulky, and too blunt

It was more like a huge hunk of pure idiocy

[midnight stirrup]

Shes trying her best

[west moon]

I wasn't talking about chen

[summer flower]

At least sundered steel is sharp

[frozen tide]

Box cutter

[west moon]

type of shit riot games would release in battlepass

[midnight stirrup]

Tbf

[west moon]

(valorant)

[midnight stirrup]

You dissing her by dissing the sword

[winged delta]

how do I get there?

[west moon]

Buddy, you got the wrong door. The leather club is two blocks down

#help

[midnight stirrup]

Smh

[frozen tide]

Chen has the lowest intellect out of every operator

Including 4 stars

[midnight stirrup]

As a joke or literally in stats

[west moon]

87

It's lowest across the board

and those 87 actually come from her skirt, it adds 87 intellect

[midnight stirrup]

Oh my days

My poor goat

[drifting quest]

Lowest endfield op still smarter than people here

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/ayra-starr-clock-it-tea-stan-twitter-stan-twt-gif-10240124980409154737

[west moon]

but can she read?

[drifting quest]

yes

[frozen tide]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[lime bear]

I'm trying to get the 20 100% Trust Medals

need those shiny holographic medals

[drifting quest]

rotate cc + gift daily

you do it in like

4 days

[midnight stirrup]

That has a trim? Damn

[frozen tide]

Its holo?

I did not know

[midnight stirrup]

Probably cause nobody actually does that amount of friendship

Lmaoo

Im guilty too

[lime bear]

ye I was saving for 200% Laevatain but change of plans

Endmin actually counts and already 200% trust lol

I counted I only have 20 ops

and realized Endmin is one of them

[lime bear]

was confused when I wanted to invite

[frozen tide]

Whats the 4th gold trim

[bitter cove]

top left is perf delivery?

[lime bear]

20 ops and 40 weapon

[frozen tide]

[lime bear]

I'm just missing one more

[west moon]

I need one more operator

[amber vapor]

True because she actually reads

[lime bear]

I'm at 12/20 tmr should be decent chunk

[west moon]

tbf, you need all operators of this patch (-2) to even get this trim

[midnight stirrup]

Friendship is pretty easy to level if u go for the bonus friendship of characters

[west moon]

there's 22 char total

[manic blade]

Time to whale for completion

[midnight stirrup]

Wait really

[west moon]

Yes

you need 2 legendaries

[midnight stirrup]

Im cooked

I dont have Lifeng, Ember and Yvonne

[west moon]

I forgot someone, LR exists lol

[amber vapor]

I'm missing arclight and gilb

[west moon]

now it's correct

[tight haven]

23

yea

oh wait youre not counting endmin

[midnight stirrup]

Damn no Arclight is crazy is only missing Gilb

[tight haven]

i see

[west moon]

You can't friendship him

[amber vapor]

If I got arclight early I woulda just built an Avy team but rngesus gave me LR and Yvonne before a single arclight

[west moon]

Devs, release the endmin files

(and zeroth directive)

[west moon]

Not getting all 5 stars to P5 is crazy work

let alone not getting one at all

[amber vapor]

See that's the funny thing

I got a Pog and LR dupe before I even got max pity Laev

[tight haven]

okay the gilberta quest might have just been a dating sim

but the music

is pretty damn good

[west moon]

let me show you something

[terse furnace]

20 lines of redacted text

[drifting quest]

more EPs in story quests thanks

[amber vapor]

SCP foundation kinda file

The Endmin is ||[redacted]||

[west moon]

Wth is this 🥀

[drifting quest]

valentines day

[west moon]

Also 14 feb

[drifting quest]

yada yada

el banana got one

[west moon]

just let me date perlica already

I don't need anyone else

[lime bear]

I have everyone except Ember and 2 limiteds

4/5 standard peak

[amber vapor]

Wait why the Endmin panning down to the thighs

[lime bear]

still saving my selector

[amber vapor]

[tight haven]

i have like

23 6*

and somehow ive completely dodged ember

[lime bear]

whale

[tight haven]

account actually saved

[amber vapor]

Imagine spending money on a gacha for pulls

[tight haven]

actually so fucking true

i coulda upgraded my pc again

[amber vapor]

Not with current ram and GPU prices unfortunately

[drifting quest]

bro has double the amount and also dodged ember

its looking good for me

[west moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[amber vapor]

Shuo don't jinx it

[midnight stirrup]

Zamn

Bro dodged ember

GG

[west moon]

imagine people who picked ember from free selector

[amber vapor]

Ember being less useful than Ardelia for agony poison mist lmaoo

[midnight stirrup]

Ey we all start somewhere

[drifting quest]

i have what uh
10?

including 2 free

3 free rather

[west moon]

Through the valley and wuling

I alone, am the gayest

[midnight stirrup]

Who u missing

[drifting quest]

7 via pulls, 1 selector, 1 login, 1 endmin

missing ember, 2 avy and 1 arclight

[midnight stirrup]

Bro straight up looks like a girl here

[tight haven]

RAISE HIM

[amber vapor]

I've gotten like 10 Avy dupes in the time I've failed to get one arclight

[midnight stirrup]

Damn Arclight rly be dodging everyone huh

[bitter cove]

[winged delta]

thought he was a girl for the longest time

[bitter cove]

bricked acc

[midnight stirrup]

Took me a long ass time to get her too

[tight haven]

oh ggs

reroll

[midnight stirrup]

Bro that design is wild

[drifting quest]

if i had p5/p5 elec duo i would have built it over physical

[winged delta]

P1 Ember team

[drifting quest]

and then now it turns out arclight is a fraud anyway

[winged delta]

🥔

[west moon]

PLEASE ENDFIELD, I NEED THIS

My avy is kinda P5-less

[drifting quest]

(still using her)

[midnight stirrup]

Wait why

Btw

[drifting quest]

akekuri does akekuri things

[west moon]

Is p5 avy picture hot btw?

[midnight stirrup]

Is someone able here to calculate what the odds were of me getting P5 LR based on my pulls

Im really curious

[drifting quest]

LM7 the goat

[tight haven]

kinda hot

[tight haven]

oh right you literally got like

6 LRs in a row

[amber vapor]

Wulf has some of the coolest art ngl

[midnight stirrup]

Kind off

I only got Pog 3 times

[drifting quest]

i was gonna say its easy to tell LM7 art but i wonder who did the others

[amber vapor]

And they didn't have to go that hard on Antal but they did

[midnight stirrup]

nothing else

[drifting quest]

but their names are listed

in the corner

[midnight stirrup]

shuo are u able to

[west moon]

Yeah it is hot

[drifting quest]

if you have pities and full 6* list i could

[tight haven]

lifengs are so cool

[amber vapor]

Bodysuits

[midnight stirrup]

peak, do you have the time for it now

[tight haven]

sankta guy is getting p5 speedran

[drifting quest]

i could

[midnight stirrup]

That tree one is really nice

Shouldve been the profile art lowkey

[midnight stirrup]

Okay 1s

[tight haven]

monota dont be the goat challenge (impossible)

same with hou

[amber vapor]

Antal hitting the aura stance

[daring dove]

Some of these areas in this game have no right looking so good.

[amber vapor]

The environment study one that has you photographing the cherry blossoms is so good

[tight haven]

its fucking shocking to me how they made this game look as good as it does on mobile

[gritty olive]

i trimmed in mobile

[tight haven]

i still dont know how to do this shit on android

i should join their discord im curious

[midnight stirrup]

bro

it was so overly complicated

on ios

[west moon]

500 damage attack stance

[midnight stirrup]

was a pain to get through

[west moon]

antal slander never stops 🔥

[tight haven]

lmao yea its even worse on mobile

[midnight stirrup]

ios is mobile

How tf is gilberta the first thing I summoned

I thought it was laev

[tight haven]

whoops i meant android

[midnight stirrup]

oh true

i thought it was easier on android

[tight haven]

you need to download a logger, patch it through a log parser

look for a token in the log

[daring dove]

Honestly though who'd win in a fair fight a shiba inu or a tree lizard.

[tight haven]

idfk how to do any of this shit what does the token even LOOK like

[midnight stirrup]

oh yeah no then its the exact same

but prob diff programs

[manic blade]

Fk Antal

[midnight stirrup]

or apps rather

[west moon]

uma musume

[manic blade]

Me and the homies hate antal

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/mambo-mambo-mambo-omatsuri-mambou-matikanetannhauser-gif-12623842818647218209

[midnight stirrup]

How can u hate Antal

Hes great

[manic blade]

Slimy stinky lizard man

[west moon]

He has zero impact on the team, less than 1% damage dealt

[midnight stirrup]

But hes cool

😎

[daring dove]

[west moon]

He's cool cause he wants fluorite too

[midnight stirrup]

Bro fuck Fluorite

[bitter cove]

i would

[summer flower]

Ehh?

[midnight stirrup]

LR fraud slot

[west moon]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-satono-diamond-vr-chat-tongue-out-meme-gif-17865685083697075722

[summer flower]

Forbidden

[midnight stirrup]

@tight haven Did u get Gilberta

[drifting quest]

Exact 6* sequence, pity not considered
0.00000003814697266%
or
1/2621440000

Exact pull sequence, pity considered
1.469607290151837*^-73%
or
haha no im not checking that

[west moon]

I wanna provoke lucid dreams

But that's not working for me

[gritty olive]

slav

[drifting quest]

should be noted this is equally as lucky and any equal amount of off rates

doesnt really mean much in that sense

[bitter cove]

thanks for the work tine

[midnight stirrup]

💀

[drifting quest]

1 of each, all last rites, etc etc

[midnight stirrup]

Thats crazy odds

[west moon]

does that means that charge set is bad

[midnight stirrup]

Thank u for checking shuo

[drifting quest]

the thing is that it will

[midnight stirrup]

🙏

[drifting quest]

its just misleading in general

hard to verbalise

[daring dove]

Is this her best weapon, when resources aren't so horrible I'll build her one day.

[gritty olive]

we will see

[lean pawn]

Man its great to able buy every mat

[amber vapor]

Obj has more value overall I think

Unless you're doing dps fluorite

[daring dove]

Of course

[west moon]

unironically, how much do you need to earn to be able to afford whaling?

[amber vapor]

Opus or Navigator imo would be better than wedge for DPS fluorite

[west moon]

Navigator is cryo tho?

[daring dove]

Not a lot 50-60k a year as long as you have your basics already paid for (hourse / car & such).

[tight haven]

nvm i found a good way to do it

definitely not safe

[amber vapor]

Solidification or corrosion

Both work for it

[tight haven]

but im lazy if it fucks me over it fucks me over

[west moon]

It is safe

[drifting quest]

should prob delete

lmao

[gritty olive]

btw

those are probably against TOS

[drifting quest]

pepper got warned for posting anything gacha related

outside of the gacha channel

plus tos yeah

[tight haven]

oh tru

[west moon]

Doubt it

[tight haven]

ahem

[gritty olive]

this discord doesnt have proper guidelines to with TOS breakingnmeasures

[tight haven]

back to discussing arknights endfield

[gritty olive]

which is never

[drifting quest]

it has a blanket ban on tos banned things

Please read both Discord's Guidelines and Terms of Service as well as Arknights: Endfield's Terms of Service carefully and deliberately.

[tight haven]

Please read both Discord's Guidelines and Terms of Service as well as Arknights: Endfield's Terms of Service carefully and deliberately.

[drifting quest]

then the whole yada yada breaking tos is breaking server rules

[tight haven]

amirite or amirite fellas

what a beautiful day of following tos

[rare rover]

Your asking for the impossible, asking gacha players to read

[drifting quest]

im jumping ship at least now

[west moon]

Catcher wields kitchenware better than greatsword probably 💔

[amber vapor]

Shuo is a double agent confirmed

[drifting quest]

now that tc is getting micromanaged more + the whole deviation from tc to feelscraft it just aint it here

[rare rover]

I knew he was a bit sus

[amber vapor]

Where you jumping ship to tho

[west moon]

Antal is getting it 😭

[drifting quest]

whatever server has an active enough tc community that i find first

[rare rover]

Cause hes a pirate, and pirates jump off the plank duh

[drifting quest]

failing that i just go sit in guoba's server i guess

im already there

[rare rover]

[amber vapor]

Ah. I'll bother you when Fangyi releases in 2 months or whenever

[gritty olive]

trackers are probably banned due tot his

best not to engage

[amber vapor]

Yeah third party software tracking game data is considered data mining

[drifting quest]

prydwen has a forums sort of section that i could vibe in i guess, even if the general prydwen recs are bad

[rare rover]

[west moon]

Why prydwen is getting slandered?

[drifting quest]

misinfo

[amber vapor]

Theorycrafting exodus to SKPort forums 💀

[rare rover]

Why wouldnt prywden get slandard

[drifting quest]

real

[gritty olive]

prywden does "calcs" without some sheet backup

[drifting quest]

i doubt anyone else is leaving anyway so it'll be fine here for the rest of you

[gritty olive]

and they "do" it by employing singular character calculations

[amber vapor]

I'm kinda bored of the game so I'll prolly wait till 1.1 now

[rare rover]

[rare rover]

Contentlessfield

[gritty olive]

when the maintenance mode

its normsl

[amber vapor]

Kura what you just said made no sense

[amber vapor]

Iana got tired of feelscraft too it seems

[gritty olive]

you are now entering "maintenance mode" in a gacha game where you just do dailies and logoff

and wait for big timesinks that those offers

[amber vapor]

Oh yeah ik

[drifting quest]

i know iana was frustrated too yes

[gritty olive]

iana left?

[drifting quest]

no(t yet)

[gritty olive]

good

theyre my source of ideas

[amber vapor]

No people just came in asking dumb questions without actually trying things out or actually reading the docs

[rare rover]

Her energy build for laev was getting sideeyed yesterday lol

[amber vapor]

Imagine making a very easy to read doc with recommendations on how to do builds

And people just follow blindly without even thinking about what they're building

[gritty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/lapwing-vrchat-hash-gif-18270552309835861756

[amber vapor]

I mean it's one thing to do all the math and have a tentative build guide

[rare rover]

conventional best

[amber vapor]

It's another thing for others to just "feels craft" against it

Without providing any of their own testing to back it up mathematically other than to just say "nah this feels better"

[gritty olive]

@hollow pine can you send me your build

[amber vapor]

This is just for p5 tho no?

[gritty olive]

outside of wuling

[rare rover]

[gritty olive]

this is p0 + umbral/forge

[amber vapor]

Oh I meant double slabbing

[sour kestrel]

can that distance from the weapons menu get even further

[gritty olive]

apparently if you do tidefall armor and double slab it like full charge set

its going to be competitive

[amber vapor]

And this is without artificing?

[west moon]

So... Is hotworks better after all?

[rare rover]

Propoganda, hotwork best

[daring dove]

Not unless you have a monitor that's 32:9 & 8k resolution across like mine.

[gritty olive]

this is with artificing

god

[gritty olive]

currently with forge, you can use whatever

but for trimming medals, id recommend using since it offers the highest damage potential on a limited timespan

i have a full charge set yet i trimmed with this

[west moon]

Oh right

the difference is mostly for umbral

for forge doesn't matters

I can't read fr

[sour kestrel]

do it, do it, do it, do it

[winged delta]

did you run the calcs assuming max artificing

slab should pull back a little no?

[gritty olive]

this is full artifice

[winged delta]

oh ok

[gritty olive]

back then i wasnt considering full artifice yet here we are now

[winged delta]

it really sounds foolish to try and create all kinds of different builds when in the end Hotwork is just Bis lul

[drifting quest]

clueless

[gritty olive]

basic attack damage pulls ahead at higher invests

so no

[rare rover]

See HE GETS IT

[west moon]

This picture NEEDS to be remade for endfield.

Which operators should take places on this picture?

[gritty olive]

more like

[drifting quest]

im so glad we had a discussion about how feelscraft was overtaking tc

!!

[winged delta]

oh, which higher invest do you consider

[gritty olive]

theres not a lot of people doing calculations -> no good ground to base people

[winged delta]

Because you alrdy have max arti, essence as well i assume.

So whaling then?

[amber vapor]

You can max artifice and max essence without whaling, it's all just rng

[bitter cove]

people too used with 5-piece elemental gear set that it seem obvious
this game doesnt really tell u that since its 3 piece set with 4 piece of gear

[amber vapor]

You don't need to max essence nor artifice to trim tho as long as you get good at your rots

[rare rover]

Well teeechnically no, u need p5 to "fully" max out a esssense , or would that count as the weapon itself, i guess the later

[drifting quest]

blue gear trims

gearless trims

exist

[gritty olive]

does someone have full artifice

[amber vapor]

There is also the fact that set bonuses aren't a be all end all, but also the fact that main stats and other modifiers like link, food buffs, debuffs, etc play into the calc

[drifting quest]

ive seen fully artificed builds yeah

[gritty olive]

forgeborn + tidefall and 3hotworks

[drifting quest]

somewhat rng

[tight haven]

so why is nobody talking about how slab on pog is bis

???

[rare rover]

Yeah its been weeks

[drifting quest]

crashout

genuine suggestion too

like man

[warm galleon]

3pc + slab

[gritty olive]

p0 + forgeborn p0

[tight haven]

?

2 slab

[gritty olive]

can i see?

[tight haven]

wdym

2 slab

aethertech

and xiranite gloves

[rare rover]

That doesnt affect artificing tho?

[gritty olive]

i just need to check this

[tight haven]

👍

[winged delta]

Kuratine, did you calc a Crit build with Ginseng.

[rare rover]

Oh

[winged delta]

Because food is plenty enough that we can just run it perma against bosses

[tight haven]

ok ok im taking the piss

[rare rover]

Yea cant help u there, p5 p5

[tight haven]

someone here earlier genuinely suggested slab on pog

is the context

[warm galleon]

I forgot to reply tag the user, it's not for you.

[tight haven]

gotcha gotcha

[warm galleon]

We just happened to post a few second apart

[amber vapor]

It definitely doesn't help that the game doesn't give the most coherent breakdown on DMG calcs

Coherent meaning not needing to do any external math like basic arithmetic 🗿

[drifting quest]

i cant believe my game for adults requires me to do math a 10 year old is capable of

[gritty olive]

no because im simmimg against umbral monument

[winged delta]

oh is food not available against that

i didnt run any so i didn't know

guess food is out then mb

[amber vapor]

The devs saw how MonHun has decos that say "under certain conditions gain X effect" and took it to heart

[neat snow]

Yes what do I need to show you

[daring dove]

Seen people keep commenting about my weird aspect ratio figured I’d show you why it’s that way.

[winged delta]

it is

big screen is so enjoyable in these games

[sour kestrel]

so what if it was 360 degrees

[winged delta]

i wish

would be better if you could edit UI

[gritty olive]

attack

[gritty olive]

see if this matches with full artifice, p0 laev + p0 forge mac essence

[neat snow]

I have 20 more int from being p5 but otherwise

It's 5848 attack so minus the 20 int from that

[gritty olive]

wrong pic

[daring dove]

Well wouldn’t that be in Wulling? You’re also getting 5% ATK?

[neat snow]

No buff right now

[daring dove]

Is this maxed out ult gain set or something else?

[gritty olive]

maxed out hotworks3 + tidefall armor

[gritty olive]

[winged delta]

P5 lavabean sounds so comfy

so much energy for ult

[neat snow]

My I also have the ult gain artiticed build so I usually use that

[west moon]

Why not 10k ATK

[neat snow]

My slabs are still in the shop

[gritty olive]

ive already matched it with mine

i just need to see double slab

[daring dove]

I imagine Ult gain set attack will be very close to that maxed out, I have like 5600+ without buffs but still missing 4 strength pips & 1 int pip. Decided to focus my artficing elsewhere for now.

[boreal coral]

I have maxed ult gain 720 int

[neat snow]

Yes it's actually slightly higher attack

[gritty olive]

i have someone that has this as double slab, but i have
already added back a 5% atk buff in

[gritty olive]

yeah thats normal

[rare rover]

Where yer 10k

[gritty olive]

i also have 700 intellect at p0, so +20 with p2

[west moon]

I'm not whale

[rare rover]

[boreal coral]

At p0 which set feels stronger? Id assume the hot works for most situations

[gritty olive]

what

[woeful plume]

when the answer is just

all

[boreal coral]

Literally no difference

[woeful plume]

where is double slab calc mr theory crafter

[daring dove]

Ult gain set feels the most comfy but realistically if you learn a fight an use your damage windows correctly I can see hot works being better at P0 with P0 weapon.

[rare rover]

In neverland

[woeful plume]

if ur non ult eskill is one shotting things or closing up a fight with hotworks

hotworks can end up better

[woeful plume]

or if u will know that if u all in in your current ult that u will win (raw skill etc)

[woeful plume]

oh shit

[ashen scroll]

Double slop

[boreal coral]

Might be worth to build both sets if the calcs looks like this

[winged delta]

hotwork requires to hit Bskill for most of the dmg, the up time is much more manageable albeit you can't fail the rotation

[gritty olive]

i wont budge to calculate further until i see my double artificed slab build

[winged delta]

if other sets barely catch up i don't see the point

[gritty olive]

[gritty olive]

basic attacking is more powerful later

[winged delta]

am I reading it wrong

[tight haven]

with improved timelines you can hit like 4+ ebs during ult

[daring dove]

I think once you have P2/P3 or higher on Laevatain’s weapon though there’s really no reason not to be using Ult gain set on her. Unless you just heavily invested in another set an don’t wanna do it over.

[tight haven]

its more accurate to say basic attacks are more powerful the more laev and sig pots you have

[rare rover]

I geniunely cannot tell what side monika is on hotwork or slab

[winged delta]

oh k saw edit

You said you compared max artifice tho so idk what more you expect besides P5

[tight haven]

use hot work

[rare rover]

U dont need to tell me that

[bitter cove]

u can give ult build for other support anyway, its not a full waste if anything

[rare rover]

CULTIST!

[tight haven]

its literally only worse if you never try and make use of its set effect

but yea ult set feels the best imo

super super comfy

[midnight stirrup]

tbf

[amber vapor]

Fighting agony ballista yesterday and having to deal with the aoe rng makes you lose a lot of potential DPS

[midnight stirrup]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex is full of it

[ashen scroll]

I have built hotwork and energy build and max it , both of them are fine . . . But you can turn off your brain more with energy build

[rare rover]

Ive made it my mission to make it known hotwork is the best

[midnight stirrup]

smfh bro

[drifting quest]

average tc channel comment

[gritty olive]

and ignorance is not a reason for you to be absolved of a crime

[rare rover]

[gritty olive]

oh sorry i didnt read the law that its forbidden to shoot another person cuz i hate them. sorry!

[tight haven]

thats true

[midnight stirrup]

it aint that deep

[bitter cove]

i honestly think that ult gen is better coz i think people have easier time piloting laev
but after that day, i lost all of my faith to average people playing this game

[midnight stirrup]

im just saying it happens a lot in salt gacha

[gritty olive]

"it aint that deep" is just a deflection

[midnight stirrup]

you never heard me say it wasnt deserved?

[rare rover]

Im lost what was

[midnight stirrup]

idk why u taking this so serious lmao

are we the police now

[ashen scroll]

Yes hotwork only require 1 braincell while energy you can do with ceobe amount of intelect

[daring dove]

For most people hot works likely is the best. It’s only once your fully artificing your gear & likely have a few potentials on your weapon where you do ult gain.

[drifting quest]

it also can just strictly perform better in some cases

[gritty olive]

cataloging pull data

[rare rover]

Tracker?

[gritty olive]

and posting it in #salt-mine-gacha-flex

[midnight stirrup]

posting of those gacha screens

[gritty olive]

yeah

those are mainly banned due to tos violations regarding accessing data

[distant python]

its there some merit to building crit off piece on perlica due to her p5 giving her ult crit rate?

[rare rover]

Im a conventional purist at heart, hotwork forever

[gritty olive]

laev skill -> miss

[amber vapor]

Need to see people post their agony runs against the ballista and axe duo to filter them

[gritty olive]

sucks hard but theres reset button anyways

[distant python]

if i swap xiranite gloves for this on perlica

[ashen scroll]

Isnt ppl say the mode too easy and now theyre dying?

[midnight stirrup]

APRIL

WHERES UR TRIM

[rare rover]

I mean

[distant python]

i end up sitting at around 60% crit rate pre food buff

[amber vapor]

Two types of "whiff", one where the skill goes through and hits nothing and another being an animation cancel early enough in the animation that the game refunds the skill

[drifting quest]

the same people calling it easy are not the same people dying

[midnight stirrup]

^ this tbh

although theres def people who got their ass handed and say its easy after

[amber vapor]

Are you telling me I actually have to learn the attack patterns and can't spam dodge and attack?

[distant python]

i got my ass handed to me, then decided to use ardelia, then it was easy

[drifting quest]

what attack patterns

[amber vapor]

Wdym the elites don't stagger from my attacks!?

[midnight stirrup]

combat in akef has been refreshing even tho its fairly simple

i rly like the bosses so far

[distant python]

i was losing to fog, not actual enemy damage

[midnight stirrup]

theyre fun to fight imo

[amber vapor]

With the agony duo you have to pay attention to the aoes albeit not by much

[ashen scroll]

The trim worth nothing , idk if i got it , but it so easy i can tell i got it even i dont see it

[amber vapor]

You can't face tank hits against them

[midnight stirrup]

yea just walk out of the circle

[midnight stirrup]

MHM

[rare rover]

Whip up your medals lets see

[distant python]

laughs in ember

[gritty olive]

wait until we get our version of setekh wenut

[midnight stirrup]

if u got them dont be afraid to show the class

[daring dove]

I think combat in this game is a lot deeper than people give it credit for to be honest. There’s tons & tons of optimisations you can do.

[ashen scroll]

Aight holup

[midnight stirrup]

was that one in arknights

[gritty olive]

no in genshin

[bitter cove]

some people died using ember on axe and ballista agony stages

[midnight stirrup]

oh

[distant python]

i dont have trim for REcrisis cuase dps races boring and i dont have pog whose the main damage boosters for phys

[boreal coral]

Got my ass handed in umbral cuz I tried tanking a hit to reach a stagger point not realizing I couldn’t use food

[midnight stirrup]

the dendro dragon?

[gritty olive]

they call me 0 0 7
0 damage
0 energy
7 minutes underground

[midnight stirrup]

they push u around a lot yeah

[gritty olive]

its this shit

[midnight stirrup]

Btw is marble not just inspired by deoxys

[gritty olive]

this aint a dendro dragon but whatever

[midnight stirrup]

or am i tripping

[amber vapor]

I trimmed agony with lvl 80 Laev with lvl 60 supps. It was a fun self imposed challenge having to actually time my skills and pay attention to attacks.

[midnight stirrup]

oh thought it was the weekly u meant

[ashen scroll]

Which one is the medal again

[daring dove]

Ultimately it’s just an investment thing, your damage will go up overtime. Eventually they’ll be easy to trim

[amber vapor]

Laughs in Ganyu

[midnight stirrup]

beat all agony stages

[gritty olive]

you didnt redeem him?

[boreal coral]

Im surprised ganyu mains still exist. Reminiscing the 2021 genshin era

[rare rover]

Agony no ,umbral was mad dissapointing for how much it got hyped as end game

[distant python]

saving it for if i get last rite or pog from 50/50 then getting the other with selector

[gritty olive]

ah ok

thrifty person

[distant python]

min maxing character variety

[midnight stirrup]

i mean it wasnt rly hyped, people knew it was easy from the beta

[distant python]

i got p1 gilb though

[midnight stirrup]

it was hoped difficulty got increased

[distant python]

i used my urgent recriutment 10 pull and got her again

[midnight stirrup]

its just that its our only source of endgame

[gritty olive]

.we want endgame

integrated strategies

https://giphy.com/gifs/leroypatterson-wish-monkey-paw-fSGqUm3IcVBESFM0hK

[distant python]

i realised i had enough pulls to hit 80 pity this banner and still keep 120 for next banner for yvonne

[rare rover]

It got hyped from my perspective as being end game content that would last a bit

[daring dove]

For some people it likely is endgame. I bet the average player has a bunch of level 60 half built characters in their team rn. It’s only a few of us have have even reached close to peak investment in 1 team.

[neon wolf]

i just want more pulls

[midnight stirrup]

endgame never lasts long tho

[gritty olive]

would you guys prefer this game having more pulls but powercreep is more invasive

[distant python]

so i went for the 80 pity where i win 50/50 and then had urgent recriutment which got me p1

[gritty olive]

and us needing two teams always

[rare rover]

Say that ti the simulated universes mode in hsr

[neon wolf]

eh idk i think powercreep will not be that bad in ake since the og is pretty noice

[distant python]

i would like needing 2 teams later on, but not power creep, make us build more teams, not invalidate our old teams

[amber vapor]

Said this earlier but we're still in release patch cycle which is content that's been in the game since the beta tests. I am expecting 1.1 to be a refreshing patch cycle with higher quality content and endgame.

[midnight stirrup]

ehhh do we rly consider simulated universe endgae

i mean ig

[rare rover]

Yes

What else is it?

[amber vapor]

I think the devs wanted to spend more time streamlining the game and getting it out more than anything

[gritty olive]

powercreep is inevitable in gacha games since these are not MOBAs or shooters where game balancing hits everyone

[neon wolf]

idk about need 2 teams but definitely make having 2 teams convenient

[midnight stirrup]

when i think of endgame i think of challenging content u gotta progress to

[rare rover]

Its something that gets extremely hard, its content after your done with story and it last an f ton

[midnight stirrup]

simulated universe shit was built for u

[distant python]

they could definitely make the umbral enemies have differing amounts of elemental resistance

[rare rover]

Simulated universes hard mode is a b to progrrss through

[neon wolf]

for sure dude umbral monument is such a snoozefest

[midnight stirrup]

simulated universe hard

[amber vapor]

Roguelite endgame modes are the easiest implemented endgames and somehow I still enjoy them the most because there's something fun about rng meme builds

[distant python]

1 cycle maybe electric team more effective, another cycle maybe heat team is more effective

[manic blade]

Fraudal monument

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nbcgoodgirls-nbc-210-good-girls-dWNiglgPz5aKdVRG3B

[daring dove]

I think by mid patch 1.1 it will be reasonable to except people to have built two teams?

[distant python]

but dont just hp creep things

[gritty olive]

if the daily goods restocked sure

[midnight stirrup]

people are speculating the 2nd part is two teams

but feelscrafting

yaknow how it be

[distant python]

add interesting mechanics that encourage team diversity, not big number go higher

[boreal coral]

Agreed. Devs are being very responsive to community output. I think we just let them smooth things out and eventually we’ll get some quality endgame content

[neon wolf]

lel stat sticks are such a popular thing in these kinda games

[manic blade]

I am low key cooked if 2 team comes within next month

[gritty olive]

HG never implemented statsticks aside from gamemodes that do them

[midnight stirrup]

bro the amount of surveys weve gotten with good oreberyl rewards shows how much they want our feedback

its wild

their patches also last like 2s

[amber vapor]

Yeah. Part of the life cycle of a live service game anyways. The first patch (release) tends to be the least remembered and most ridiculed later on in a live service game's life.

[neon wolf]

idk about good oroberyl rewards but yeah it is something

[distant python]

permanent content being kinda stat stick like trimmed medal recrisis is fine

[midnight stirrup]

the options u get in the survey are also very specific complaints from the community

[gritty olive]

so like you can always assume an enemy is 5000 hp constant althroughout, unless stage changes.

[drifting quest]

hg is good at taking feedback

historically

[midnight stirrup]

bro u dont get premium currency in most surveys in other gachas

[drifting quest]

whether that translates into gryphline is tbs

[neon wolf]

ikr i actually almost select the majority of the options in it

[amber vapor]

Trimmed medals are purely for self satisfaction though

[midnight stirrup]

like they do it rarely

[distant python]

wuwa 1.0

[rare rover]

Yea its easy....the normal to lower hard lvs....but those fricken max difficulty ones

[gritty olive]

was about to send a cheng the holunggay but whatever tenor is dead

[midnight stirrup]

True

[gritty olive]

garbage

[neon wolf]

doesn't mean i can't dislike it still lol nobody gets off lightly

[manic blade]

Prolly build phys as second team if I needed to

[midnight stirrup]

it has value which means they know people will fill in the survey

genshin gives u 20k mora per survey

bc they never care about feedback

[amber vapor]

Medal next to shopping cart one

[manic blade]

Get last trim whale WHALE NOW SWIPE SWIPEE SWIPE OOOOOO

[midnight stirrup]

not to start tribalism

but u get what i mean

[rare rover]

Wheres them whel badges

[distant python]

yeah but it does mean some peopel just rush the feedback without properly thinking

[ashen scroll]

Qhat is whale badges

[midnight stirrup]

ofc but ur gonna keep that regardless

[distant python]

some people just click random buttons to get through survey for rewards

[daring dove]

I do wish they’d kind of limit their surveys to 20-30 questions though. I always go in with the best intentions & find myself falling asleep once we get to question 45 of 90

[neon wolf]

i actually took time to do it hope it helps

[gritty olive]

@ashen scroll do you have laev, and do you have double slab fully artificed

[rare rover]

20 operators, 15 p5 chars, 40 weapons, they grt a shiny animated icon

[drifting quest]

20-30 questions would be more than in the surveys

[amber vapor]

I was a cbt player and seeing the drastic change in 1.0 was sad but hey gachas have always been fun little side games that are end of day time wasters for me so

[midnight stirrup]

what survey u did that has thast many

crazy exaggeration

[manic blade]

25 weapon skill combined lvl is a trim medal with 6 6 3 essence you need a p3 weapon

[midnight stirrup]

[distant python]

i have 40 weapons f2p, i just need 2 more for 20 character (missing lava, yvonne and somehow xaihi)

[distant python]

you can do this on 5 star or 4 star weapon though

[rare rover]

Alternatively if 15 p5 chars is too much u can 100% trust 20 operators

[amber vapor]

Ngl I like the holographic crown affect on reforged 3 medals more than the platinum chroma sheen on trimmed ones

[manic blade]

Ya

[boreal coral]

The first one I think?

[midnight stirrup]

agree

[gritty olive]

always irks me people calling laevatain "lava"

[rare rover]

No they're gold medals with animated icons

[gritty olive]

[daring dove]

The latest one, I spent about 20 minutes doing it, most of the surveys have multiple answers as well. You’re expected to select all that apply. In that format there’s easily over 50 answers.

[drifting quest]

lavacakes

[manic blade]

Surtr

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-arknights-just-use-surtr-gif-24975177

[boreal coral]

Ohhh those ones

[gritty olive]

tehres already a lava in arknights

yall are confusing me

[midnight stirrup]

It def felt long cause they kept asking questions within questions

[neon wolf]

what is the 1st trimmed one on that set

[distant python]

im new gen

[midnight stirrup]

but it was not that many fr

[drifting berry]

Man I download HSR again to test the waters and I forgot how ass the Relics system was, I have spend around 1200 stamina and I have gotten a grand total of 2 mid pieces and I'm still missing boots with the correct main stat.

[midnight stirrup]

Yesn't

[distant python]

i played arknights for like 1 to 2 weeks over a year ago

and the entire time i just followed kyostinv guides

[neon wolf]

og arknights is very good

[midnight stirrup]

The gold ones are whale

[manic blade]

Lot of free custom relics stuff u can do tho

[neon wolf]

i got so much resources lol idk what to do anymore

[midnight stirrup]

And the essence one

[distant python]

unfortunately i suck at tower defense games

[boreal coral]

Weapon artifice

[rare rover]

I see you havent been taught the bloons td ways

[gritty olive]

dw its normal

[distant python]

bloons easy compared to ak, dont have to worry abotu investing in characters

[neon wolf]

ohhh

damn i need to essence farm more then i am like 1off of it

nvm 25 is crazy

[boreal coral]

Pot3 weapon

[ashen scroll]

Isnt thatjust ultimate weaponery?

[distant python]

i have pot 1 detonate

[midnight stirrup]

Yea, the value will fall off over time

[ashen scroll]

Rank 25 weapon right?

[neon wolf]

isn't it p4?

[midnight stirrup]

But rn most f2p dont have it

[distant python]

should i combine my thermite cutters into pot1, im concerned that maybe future teams might run double vanguard

[ashen scroll]

What even rank of 25 even mean tho

Essence?

[daring dove]

Can’t wait to perfect my subs by EoS

[neon wolf]

your weapon stat levels added up

[bitter cove]

3
weapon start with p0, 994 max
p3 997 max

[neon wolf]

if i get my last attack boost i am at 24 points

[rare rover]

6 6 3 essence + p3 weapon

[ashen scroll]

Oh

I only -1 essence

[neon wolf]

should've just skipped gilberta's sig and gotten an extra pot for laev sig damnit

[midnight stirrup]

Oh that reminds e

[manic blade]

I may of 0 cycled plight in the latest HSR endgame…

[midnight stirrup]

I gotta do my ticket

[rare rover]

Unbelievable, i cant believe u smh

[neon wolf]

gotta do what i gotta do

[bitter cove]

if u have 663 pf essence for forgeborn
just p3 stanza since it has the exact same stat

[daring dove]

That’s cheating

[neon wolf]

oh really?

cheat codes

[ashen scroll]

Do you have the emblem picture

[winged delta]

I wouldn't

[rare rover]

Im not at my pc

[distant python]

yeah, i think ill keep them seperate, i did combine my oblivion since only perlica can use that rn

[sour kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-chen-qianyu-cute-hands-wave-hands-gif-2253969272498112252

[ashen scroll]

I think i missing the Pot requirement

[amber vapor]

It's a holographic crown iirc

[rare rover]

If u trust 100% 20 operators that medal also has a animated icon

[amber vapor]

Like this one

The little crown at the top angle of the pentagon is animated and holographic

[sour kestrel]

YO THATS SO ME

[gritty olive]

when are we going back to actual tc again

should i even calc like

potentials atp

[drifting quest]

join us in the great tc exodus

[summer flower]

I think question is how likely it is that its gonna be used on two operators in same team

I just noticed that crystal on endmin is activated by any of phys statuses

[gritty olive]

ok

[amber vapor]

Do it if you enjoy doing the math

[smoky viper]

just to confirm, in order to get this one trimmed, you need dupes for a weapon?

[ashen scroll]

Yeah i only missing essence and few pot , my priority rn is to make all my ops beside my main to level 69

[manic blade]

Yes but it doesn’t have to be a 6*

[ashen scroll]

[smoky viper]

yeah, that's what i was thinking

[manic blade]

Like someone said if u play laev w sig u could throw it on p3 stanza and get the trim

[gritty olive]

so like does someone have fully artificed + p0 laev with max trust nodes(+60 intellect) + p0 994 essence forgeborn? im trying to cross check my attack here. thanks

[ashen scroll]

Idk who would , slab reps is kinda bad no?

[drifting quest]

triple kit meta

[drifting quest]

7428.452011

i got the same value

990.472 int
251 str
545.436% stat%
318 batk + 510 watk
39% atk%

((318+510)x(1.39))x(6.45436)
= 7428.4520112

[modest thorn]

do diff units have diff ult cooldowns?

[drifting quest]

yes

[modest thorn]

is there somewhere i can find them all?

[drifting quest]

its just based on ult duration

[gritty olive]

i already have em tabulated

[drifting quest]

i cant think of any off the top of my head that have difference not tied to duration

[gritty olive]

@modest thorn

[drifting quest]

or that

i stand corrected