theorycrafting

[mortal trellis]

smh

[hexed hazel]

what are some ult gain break points for Gilberta?

[vestal sinew]

does anyone know how p1 lifeng changes mono physical rotation?

[ripe parrot]

guys, this run broke me. after about grinding it out for 5 hours, I had to go out and touch some grass and now i'm back and i dunno what to do anymore other than rot

also I feel like solo poison gas agony is impossible so I guess I'm done now

[civic wolf]

bruh

[ripe parrot]

i feel that. me from 2 weeks ago

but at the very least, squeezing out 3 seconds is doable

i believe in you

[rare rover]

Wowee now do the two fat dudes, nothing impossible u can do it

[civic wolf]

think its because my food buff ran out in the middle fo a run

[ripe parrot]

i already did

[rare rover]

[ripe parrot]

3rd stage was done first because it was easy

2nd stage is uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

1st stage ??????????

how in the poison hell

[supple epoch]

When they’ve already artificed the wrong gear

Might as well double down

xD

[ripe parrot]

big brain: if you artifice essences with 3 tertiary stats you can swap them between weapons

[eternal ruin]

futureproofing

https://klipy.com/gifs/think-about-it-use-your-brain

[high tide]

What if endmin is gay?

[jagged tiger]

hello

what gears are yall putting on your Last Nut?>

[civic wolf]

i dont think i can pull it off the tentacles attacks are too annoying 😭

straight up getting hit by that is run killer, and then becuse i start with ult i have to refill the ult again, which means getting the food buffs up again

[ripe parrot]

that's honestly the worst part about re:crisis runs

mess up -> recharge ult -> reapply food buff -> mess up again because you hate yourself

[tranquil burrow]

Use the tentacles to fill up ult if you think your run is bricked, better than farming overworld mobs

[civic wolf]

i still dont know wtf they're thinking with tentacle slam

[ripe parrot]

the tentacle slam that hits multiple sides is evil

[twilit quail]

hits 1 and 5 will always be aimed towards you

[ripe parrot]

hit 5 is easily dodgeable at least

[ionic hollow]

guys, what are the best foods?

[ripe parrot]

hit 1 is not great in terms of visual tell

[ripe parrot]

ginseng, legacy. 99% of the time it's ginseng meat stew

[civic wolf]

ive taken notice that someone with a lava run conserves their 4 stacks EBS by cancling the final hit so they get to keep EBS lol

cuz of how fast tentacle dies its not worth spending 4 stacks on them

[ripe parrot]

well you can probably get an empowered EBS in and still get back 4 MF stacks before end of ult

might as well save a little bit more time

[civic wolf]

problem is this is specifically the tentacles phase

harder to get that back so that's probably why they resort to EBS canceling

[supple epoch]

That’s better then the attack buff ?

[glad roost]

what does Legacy or Ginseng do

Never used food buffs in my life i just toughed it out

[sly nymph]

ginseng is 180 flat and 11% crit

[drifting ledge]

damn even wuling got sustainable livable infrastructure

[jagged tiger]

How do i get my last rite to burst to even 100k dmg

My almos max just stuck reach 35k

[outer ermine]

check pins

[outer ermine]

ah yes, shit ive been practicing i manage to do better when im not looking and its even better cuz it doesnt use combo

mann

[tranquil burrow]

Is it me or does Gilberta seem like a fairly decent damage dealer. She can get pretty high atk & her multipliers aren't too shabby at all. Her basic multipliers are better than Lavacake and and her ult is comparable to Lavacake's EBS.

[jagged tiger]

Problem is do you need a support dealing dps

When they can do better stuff

[tranquil burrow]

I mean, this thing is passive

I just built her normally

but once fully invested I can see the vision

[drifting quest]

Speedrun stuff can build dps gilb

Known build type

[jagged tiger]

Fuck

In need thermite cutter

I picked sundered steel cause i got last rite early

Then i also got her signature

And another sundered prince dupe

So now i got 2 sundered prince

With no cutter

[next helm]

Every character should do at least 15% team contribution

Else you get this shit

where you don't want to press their skill

and then you don't use characters cause their stuff is sp locked

[half rapids]

whats the gilb dps team

[jagged tiger]

I have fluorite in last rite team solely cause i want her combo skill to procc freeze faster

[jagged tiger]

Me and Gilberta

[half rapids]

back off my girl

[warm galleon]

When fluorite ult hits harder than yvonne's

[jagged tiger]

*our

I also got her

[half rapids]

your gilberta is a fake

[jagged tiger]

our Gilberta are fake

[half rapids]

she just told me shes real

[next helm]

How does fluorite hit a lot

[elder skiff]

i love my daily yvonne slander

[jagged tiger]

Is Akekuri

Really is the best ingame vanguard

[half rapids]

def gonna be a cracked out vanguard coming sooner than later

[hollow pine]

wondering if she's gonna get nerf hammer 😂

[vestal sinew]

what does charge threshold mean?

[hollow pine]

ult gain ig

[vestal sinew]

how do you get those specific thresholds just by equiping the required gear?

[hollow pine]

yep

[rotund yoke]

Artifice

[vestal sinew]

isnt the only artifice on pog in the document?

usually the gear has an icon if it needs an artifice right?

like this

[midnight stirrup]

Wheres ur p5/p5

[rotund yoke]

There's 2 versions of that armor, one is for combo skill, that icon is just to show which one you should equip

[vestal sinew]

why didnt they do the same for pans gloves? i can barelly recognize whichs ones he needs?and if thats the case how do you use artificing or for what i still dont know what it is

[rotund yoke]

You get a quest about it in wuling

It's to upgrade the skills

[midnight stirrup]

No that icon means what passive the gear has

That chest has energy regen on ult

[outer ermine]

its doomed, ard long ass skill is holding back a sub 10 rot

xai already mid spin into lr cs but ard skill just pops and lights up now

maybe barelyyyy makes it, just unbuffed encase which is -30k dmg

[trim sierra]

which gives more numbers, physical damage bonus or arts intensity for endmin?

[daring dove]

Not sure I should bother finishing this, getting more will on Gilberta isn't going to move the needle much.

Ult gain & weapon skill make sense, but does Gilberta even meaningfully contribute to damage to max will?

[jagged tiger]

Who will tase me when i'm deflated?

Aveywenna or Perlica?

[vagrant sparrow]

how big is gilberta sig? i got her from the daily login pulls i was not expecting to get her so now idk if i pull her sig or not

[daring dove]

Stanza is better than P0 Sig, an getting potentials on Stanza will be easier. Sig is only really worth it if you're chasing potentials of it.

[wild meteor]

Wtf you maxed out it's dupes. How many pulls was that

Wow

It's beautiful tho

[lunar inlet]

Hi, anyone know what is the best gear for pog, endmin, chen, ardelia team?

[cosmic stump]

why do these kinds even drop? bug or trolling devs?

[vagrant sparrow]

i see, thanks

[daring dove]

About 20 I think, I was quite lucky.

[jagged tiger]

Shiet thanks for the ìno

[wild meteor]

Oh wow srsly. That is v lucky

[jagged tiger]

Still gonna roll for it coping yo get thermite cutter off rate

[daring dove]

It's still a fine weapon at P0, with an easy activation condition. It's just not going to compete with a P5 Stanza in terms of team damage uplift.

[wild meteor]

Yeah in at p2 for thermite thanks to the banner. Need like 500 more tickets to do my last pull to finally guarantee the delivery tho

[daring dove]

I just need 1 more

[jagged tiger]

God i wish i have the money to pull for off rate thermite

But just bought a steamdeck

So....

[neat snow]

Need to make it glow

[civic wolf]

Im finally free to build everything else 🎊

[gentle stream]

quick qestion, is everyone that got cloned have the same eyes as priestess or is this just normal for terrans?

[civic wolf]

oh great there's next to no fanfare for that

😔

[glad niche]

Because people do it with 4* now, its not a big achievement anymore

[lost herald]

Will aethertech give more dmg than yinglung?

[drifting quest]

Result of originium so reconveners

[glad niche]

(never was)

[mortal trellis]

sniff... f2p....

but!!!! my masteries are better...

[jagged tiger]

I wonder

Will TangTang be physival dmg dealer

Or other element

[elder skiff]

phys is the most complete team rn so i highly doubt it

[jagged tiger]

Don't remember pogger having that

Could be just her contact

[drifting quest]

Phys is missing a premium payoff so its possible

Its also just hard to imagine her as any other element based on story

Fire if you push it I guess

[mystic halo]

it's too hard to imagine her as anything other than physical failgirl

[jagged tiger]

Tangtang really haven't shown us like any combat move yet

Whatever she ends up being gonna be a suprise

[peak void]

her clothes are grey white so she must be physical right

[jagged tiger]

Wolfie's sister might be fire tbh

But we already have a fire sword OP

[drifting quest]

We have safe predictions for mifu, fangyi and rossi yeah

[gritty olive]

ok time for some slab calculations

im curious on potential damage

[jagged tiger]

Mifu greatsword?

[drifting quest]

Mifu likely electric with combustion flavour, or fire with electrification flavour

Fangyi likely electric, maybe with nature flavour

Rossi likely fire vanguard, maybe with physical flavour

[glad niche]

Time for this again

[vagrant sparrow]

\bro i have so much sanity and there is nothing to even spend it on

what are you guys doing with your sanity

[drifting quest]

Essences

[vagrant sparrow]

maxing support ones?

[peak void]

building my 2 other teams 🤷

[drifting quest]

Yesnt

[vagrant sparrow]

so kinda i see

[jagged tiger]

Fangyi gonna be physical

Caus that's gonna be contact between me n her

[drifting quest]

I have laev hyper
Physical

• gilb

[jagged tiger]

[vagrant sparrow]

do we like dapan or edmin more

for phys

[jagged tiger]

Dapan

[rich linden]

Endmin

[peak void]

da pan for now, maybe endmin will get better with more pots

[jagged tiger]

He started in a Pixar movie about Kungfu

[drifting quest]

Both work depends on pots and investment

[jagged tiger]

Of course he knows what he's cooking

[rich linden]

Noooo endmin wife

[jagged tiger]

[drifting quest]

Highest investment endmin took the lead again

[vagrant sparrow]

i dont have grand vision

[drifting quest]

After being behind dapan for a while

[peak void]

i like endmin more tho idk

[jagged tiger]

Female Endmin powercrept the male version tbh

[peak void]

even if da pan "easier"

[glad niche]

Endmin, because they have potential to get better, Panda does not.

[vagrant sparrow]

i like edmin more because of the drip but there is no chance i can get grand vision

🤔

[peak void]

grand vision: can u send me $1

[rich linden]

Its free (if u pull enough on never rest banner)

[vagrant sparrow]

wa

wait

grand vison is just 1 buck

[rich linden]

Ye

[peak void]

we have perlica at home, its grand vision

[rich linden]

Thats how they get you

[vagrant sparrow]

oh hell yea let me 90/90 this Endmin fella

[rich linden]

[vagrant sparrow]

now i have a reason to spend my sanity on

[peak void]

i can make $1 in my sleep so like wtvr

[vagrant sparrow]

bro casinos pay 1 dollar if you login enough

dont tell my accountant

[peak void]

wheres my hush money

[vagrant sparrow]

now it feels kinda weird that i picked Exemplar from my selector

for dapan

should have went with the detonation unit gang

[dawn patrol]

whoops

[peak void]

the humble ancient canal

[dawn patrol]

hi qyurii

[peak void]

hello eva 👋

[tawdry canyon]

Question chat, I remember someone doing a calculation of all materials needed for Lv. 1 - 90 for an operator, how long it'd take to grind for said materials, etc... and made a spreadsheet, does anyone have it? I seem to have lost it

[dawn patrol]

i haven't seen it sorry

[peak void]

yea me neither

when i raise operators i just press buttons and close my eyes

[drifting quest]

~2months to max, no pre-existing resources

[tawdry canyon]

I'm aware I just wanted the sheet itself

[drifting quest]

if you're just doing 1>90 with promotions, nothing else it's quite a lot less

[dawn patrol]

2 months???

[drifting quest]

ive never seen a sheet in the first place so couldnt comment

[drifting quest]

assumes no other sources (e.g. dijiang, events, yada yada)

[tawdry canyon]

yeah it's like 1.5mil T-creds total, like 4000 stamina, etc..

for a single character

[drifting quest]

and that you are going for 90/90, m12, etc

[mystic halo]

when I open the level up screen I black out and buddah himself guides my hand

[eternal ruin]

we're given a lot of free stamina and incentivized to use it early, so it might seem like our first few characters were really quick to build

[drifting quest]

you WILL level up antals normal attack

[peak void]

thats kind of a useless assumption no offense

[drifting quest]

i dont disagree

[mystic halo]

ok so

[peak void]

like dijiang is constant

[mystic halo]

there is an actual case for this

[peak void]

events i kinda get

[drifting quest]

yeah you swap to antal for basics

during the animation locks

[peak void]

wait what

[drifting quest]

quickswapping is real

[peak void]

like laeva finisher?

[drifting quest]

(its nigh useless)

[mystic halo]

the great demon, baphomet, had bid that I m3 fluorite combo

ok so

swapping during ebs is a legitimate gain

it is definitely useful

if rossi has a good set of autos

oh boy

[drifting quest]

its just spmaxxing

[mystic halo]

and giving the stacks to lae just as she uses them

[peak void]

i hope i can field rossi

[mystic halo]

it's very relevant for current optimisation

[peak void]

please

[drifting quest]

physical can squeeze out an actually decent amount of damage with it

if you break your hands

[peak void]

thoughts on play with your feet angle

saves your hands 🤷

[glad niche]

Or just pilot Chen, swap off her during ult and back to her after. GG

[dawn patrol]

that's still kinda wild though

[drifting quest]

does this even matter if you're absorbing via next b3 anyway

[mystic halo]

yes

[drifting quest]

unless its the whole

prestacking via skills plus the enhanced laev skill

and 4 stack

but thats like

[mystic halo]

it's like

[drifting quest]

not exactly typical gameplay

[mystic halo]

ebs combo ebs

and the timer is frozen

the entire time

it's part of practical stuff

it's very deranged but it has legitimate value

[drifting quest]

maybe if content gets hard it becomes better but like

90% of people can just do the basic spam laev stuff and clear without having to worry

[twilit quail]

90% of people can use double slab and hold m1

obviously none of this is for the average person

[drifting quest]

clueful

[dawn patrol]

[tight haven]

alright lads

phys is REAL

[dawn patrol]

hell yeah little german boy

[tight haven]

oh fuck im so out of tc

fuuck

[drifting quest]

its okay no one does any tc here anyway you're not alone

||YES I KNOW THEY MEANT TCREDITS THE JOKE WENT OVER YOUR HEAD IF YOU THINK I DIDNT UNDERSTAND||

[dawn patrol]

[peak void]

wait

[outer ermine]

i think

[peak void]

theres

[outer ermine]

i wanna m6 ard

[peak void]

slab slop in laeva sheet 🥀

what happened

[tight haven]

rename this channel to #feelscrafting

[outer ermine]

strats channel

[drifting quest]

people dont even feelscraft anymore

its just help 3 and team build 2

[dawn patrol]

someone was having trouble trimming with ult charge set and it gave iana a mental breakdown iirc

[outer ermine]

its just sheetscrafting noone plays the game anymore

[peak void]

why are we trimming with ult charge set

do we hate ourselves

[dawn patrol]

that's what i'm sayin

[drifting quest]

or there's the daily arguments about people disagreeing with tc

[dawn patrol]

so yeah disclaimers n stuff were added and now we have slab

[drifting quest]

its easier vs marble and dorito

[gritty olive]

[frozen tide]

Ok i got u with the feelscraft

[gritty olive]

not fully artificed but

[peak void]

really?

[jagged tiger]

Tf is slab

[peak void]

i feel like i really appreciate the hot works on marble

[dawn patrol]

hot work stays winning

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

less punishing

[peak void]

lets me kill 3 tentacle in 15 seconds

and i cant really speak for triaggelos, i one tried it

[drifting quest]

technically higher edpr but w/e

[dawn patrol]

hot work is better bc it's red methinks

[peak void]

i tried ult charge on marble and it was miserable tbh

2 tentacles per ult

[dawn patrol]

fully artificed?? just to try??

what in the

[peak void]

only ult charge was full art

[drifting quest]

i get 3 tent per ult on charge set

[dawn patrol]

if i'm lucky i might get full art hot work next week

[drifting quest]

tends to require some pretty tight movement though

[peak void]

hot work 3 tentacle was pretty smooth

as long as u use wulf p5 properly

maybe the one thing i dont like abt hot works is

missing bs/ebs

if i had ult charge i probably wouldnt mind much

[jagged tiger]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iB8iY6oPGyY

Can we just talk about how they're just drilling on the parasocial relationship

[peak void]

is it really parasocial if its an ange clone

[twilit quail]

game that makes money by selling characters is trying to sell the characters

[drifting quest]

wuthering wives 2

[sterile patrol]

is this your theory

[peak void]

hi guob

we are theorycrafting

[jagged tiger]

Is that

[twilit quail]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1ARfRB3Evh/

[jagged tiger]

Guo the youtuber?

[peak void]

maybe

[sterile patrol]

what is this

[jagged tiger]

He is

[mystic halo]

it's speedrun

[peak void]

ffs 😭

now this is theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

sanityless behaviour

[twilit quail]

did you guys also know that

because healing in this game is coded as negative damage

[peak void]

theorycrafting the fastest way to get 0% delivery

[twilit quail]

if you place healing turret

it goes into someone else's world

and it heals them while they are doing ubereats

their package will be damaged?

cause they are taking negative damage

[frozen tide]

[eternal ruin]

found satan

[dawn patrol]

new levels of unhinged just dropped

[frozen tide]

You can troll with structures a lot

[peak void]

hg spaghetti code strikes again

[frozen tide]

You can put down lowest tier turrets to lure enemy to depot routes

[peak void]

what if u just put a healing bot on every delivery spot

[dawn patrol]

that would be evil and i will personally hunt you down

[frozen tide]

You can place anything to block ppl using jump pads and die

[peak void]

nvm wont u just not get healed if you're already full

[dawn patrol]

seen a clip of this with an ez stash LMAO

[frozen tide]

Yeah lmao its funi

[peak void]

Oh you're gonna hunt me huh

[tight haven]

oh gilberta

why couldnt you apply phys susc

[midnight stirrup]

Youre giving me ideas

About to spawn healing turrets everywhere

The same way mfs made all their water xiranite

[peak void]

the humble 13 turret limit in wuling city

[frozen tide]

Doesn't yahzen water heal u

If you fill up things with it

Ok heres peak feelscrafting

[mystic halo]

post it on reddit

[drifting quest]

tier list based on animations

did i guess right

[peak void]

wulf up 1

[winged delta]

Chen can't be S in animation

She coud have looked so much more cool

[frozen tide]

Should i make a reddit acc just for this

[midnight stirrup]

I have no clue I suck at wuling factory stuff

[frozen tide]

[midnight stirrup]

Btw

Those people who made all their water xiranite

Did they cook their account

Can u come back from that

[frozen tide]

You can

[drifting quest]

yes

[midnight stirrup]

Oh word

[frozen tide]

Theres inf water sources

You can't fuck up that bad

[twilit quail]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV197FXzDEgi/

[midnight stirrup]

Bc I saw everything in Wuling being xiranite

Was funny

[midnight stirrup]

Well that was easy

[frozen tide]

I do wonder tho

If there wasn't inf water sources

Is there a way to create water dupe

[gritty olive]

befoer and after max artifice

im scared

[drifting quest]

this is during ult yes

[gritty olive]

this is total damage

[frozen tide]

And also what's the rot

[gritty olive]

• slab assumed with standard damage

[drifting quest]

same rot or specialised rots

[gritty olive]

same rot

i just adjusted equipment numbers

[drifting quest]

ah ok

[frozen tide]

I hate the chinese girl tts

[drifting quest]

i was confused on the numbers but that'd explain it then

[frozen tide]

Everybody uses it

[quaint matrix]

bro turned every water source into monster energy.....

[quaint matrix]

so blight is banished i guess? we won?

[gritty olive]

err spam was worse

[drifting quest]

yeah if its not ulting twice as much then it would be

[gritty olive]

no it was ulting twice as much

[drifting quest]

oh not same rot then

ebs spam or basic spam

[gritty olive]

same ult rot: 3n4s, one ebs

no bullshit inbetween, just basic

[drifting quest]

the ult charge build can do less skills

different rot

something something we love sheeting we love sheeting

[gritty olive]

WE LOVE SHEETING

[neat snow]

Don't forget to wipe

[twilit quail]

i love yvonne!!

[gritty olive]

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I FORGOT TO ACCOUNT THAT I HAVENT ACCOUTED FOR ARDELIA SIG

NO ONE WILL BAT AN EYE. THE AGENDA MUST BE MAINTAINED

[dawn patrol]

put ard sig in.

[drifting quest]

0ebs vs 1ebs vs 2ebs vs 3+ ebs laevatein ult rots

which are you calcing

[dawn patrol]

hot work will reign again.

[drifting quest]

smile

[midnight stirrup]

Gilberta is so funny

[tight haven]

my single-target goat...

[midnight stirrup]

Huh

[gritty olive]

new calc

[tight haven]

theyre calling gilberta the greatest stdps of all time

[gritty olive]

one ebs

[midnight stirrup]

Who

[gritty olive]

slab is still wip, total dps is poised to be lower at p0 since youre not getting enough

also

289 energy, needs 2 skills

[peak void]

i am not building slab 🗣️ 🔥

billions must riot

[gritty olive]

butbutbut

potentially stronger versus two targets

[peak void]

nahhhhhhhhhh

[dawn patrol]

speak your truth

[open hare]

Slab

[rare zodiac]

It’s pain me to see slab but work is work

[open hare]

Can I raze your house to the ground

[open hare]

Rhodes Island is simply built different

You can't say otherwise

They would mess Talos-II so bad

[rare zodiac]

If you allow me to raze you after then considered it done

[neat snow]

[open hare]

You are freakiest than me

Freakier

[peak void]

Its that time of tc again huh

[open hare]

Even my server ain't that bad

[open hare]

Mommy

Coddle me Eblana

[quartz ivy]

is the slab worth it for p0 leva

[open hare]

You're dead, but your still fine af

[open hare]

Stop spreading slab propaganda

[frozen tide]

Slab gets better with sig pots

[gritty olive]

potentially if you somehow have energy

which is idk

[twilit quail]

slab definitely has, like, a target audience

so to speak

[rare zodiac]

If not p4 don’t even look at slab

[neat snow]

Slab backwards is bals

[peak void]

we cracked it guys, slab propaganda is demolished

[open hare]

Uoogh sensei, slab is bals

[quaint matrix]

her name is a meme for russians

[open hare]

What is it

[frozen tide]

Would you recommend slab to folks struggling trims with full investment

[open hare]

No

[twilit quail]

ok so slab is spiritually similar to 3pc tide

[open hare]

Spiritually

[frozen tide]

Ontologically chud spirited slabs

[quaint matrix]

[open hare]

Holy shit, can she do that to me despite being dead af

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

i am struggling to clear with investment so i will swap to the build doing less damage

[open hare]

Not you too shuo

The slab propaganda is working

[frozen tide]

My world view changed after seeing a run in the channel earlier

[open hare]

Everyone is falling to the slab propaganda

[quaint matrix]

the translator is actually stupid. this word in russian means insult. you can translate it as something like: "complete fucking idiot/degenerate"

[dawn patrol]

bruh

[open hare]

That emoji reminds me of a content creator that just has characters lick stuff

[dawn patrol]

not even engraved

[open hare]

Same shit

[open hare]

Rip right

Right?

[gritty olive]

[frozen tide]

What bout double slab

[dawn patrol]

yea i already had one so

[frozen tide]

Can you add that

[twilit quail]

this is the wrong slab set

1x slab is worthless

[open hare]

Yeah, who was that guy again?

[twilit quail]

and not worth talking about

[gritty olive]

bottled stardust

[gritty olive]

do we 2x

[twilit quail]

2x slab is the subject of the topic at hand

[gritty olive]

so what

[twilit quail]

hot work but both kits are replaced

[gritty olive]

???

[twilit quail]

yes

[gritty olive]

ok

[frozen tide]

What server are those emotes from

Fire

[open hare]

I swear the emotes are from the one creator guy

[hollow helm]

How frequent the collab are with arknight ?

[open hare]

The YouTube dude that just makes the huge lick shiz

[frozen tide]

Guoba?

[gritty olive]

bottled stardust

[open hare]

Not much, but they do it every so and then

[open hare]

Thats the name of the youtuber?

[gritty olive]

not likely

[gritty olive]

yes. theyre from china

so its just a youtube channel for em

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466958391174889722/1469332220689911850/95432420d712308dc0cf6101605d37938489578_________________1.webp

[open hare]

Then Battlecats do every collab possible in existence

Battlecats literally collab with fucking anything

[twilit quail]

oh dude I cant wait to have to start defending double slab

in team build channel

in a week

[hollow helm]

yeah battlecats can’t live without collab

[twilit quail]

what an excellent hole Ive dug for myself

[open hare]

I literally had to skip street fighters

[open hare]

Princess Punt is going eos

Japanese getting the collab but US servers no shot

Like why

[open hare]

Fuh no

They had a nuker

[gritty olive]

vs hotwork slov assuming with extra er

[open hare]

Isn't penguinistrator hot

Female endmin is hot right?

[gritty olive]

i just realized how the fuck did slab not catch

[frozen tide]

She's cute

[open hare]

This was in the art channel

[frozen tide]

[open hare]

Holy fuh

Penguin

Anyways

You know what's better than slab propaganda?

[elder skiff]

what about like setless double slabs

tide chest + hotwork gloves + 2 slabs

[dire nymph]

we’re doing now?

[elder skiff]

2 slabs setless is the best for high attribute

[gritty olive]

if you checked above i said its double slab

[dire nymph]

) :

[elder skiff]

[elder skiff]

what about

crit laev

[dire nymph]

my double slab will be used soon (tm)

[elder skiff]

[gritty olive]

btw

does someone have double slab fully artificed so i can try to check

[frozen tide]

Crit laev has inconsistent results

[gritty olive]

or hotworks + tidefall

[drifting quest]

double slab gamers when the enemy is not a stationary target dummy

[gritty olive]

can i see if you have this attack

?

[dire nymph]

cant they like add fav sword

or something to this game

[gritty olive]

[dire nymph]

[gritty olive]

[open hare]

Damn

[dawn patrol]

ion have hot work fully artificed yet 💔

[open hare]

Sell to the poor so you can be rich

[dawn patrol]

maybe next week if you still need it LOL

[dire nymph]

im 1 roll off fully charged set

im out of artificers

[mortal wolf]

I know guide says Pulser but has anyone bothered with numbers for the difference between that and Frontiers for Pog

[twilit quail]

frontiers is so worthless it hasnt been considered in more than half a month

[hollow pine]

double slab maxed

[frozen tide]

@manic blade

[gritty olive]

what pot

[open hare]

Where tf is 992 intellect coming from

[peak void]

arts intensity go brr

[elder skiff]

that’s <p2, p2 reaches 1k

[peak void]

shes really smart i guess

[elder skiff]

[open hare]

If I slap 900 strength on my LR it wouldn't do shit

[gritty olive]

🥀 tf happened

[peak void]

is LR bad?

[open hare]

No

[gritty olive]

do yours have potential

[open hare]

What

[gritty olive]

also i lied what the fuck

[open hare]

LR?

[twilit quail]

see

this is why

I put it in there at all

it's not that bad

[open hare]

Would double slab even work on lr lmao

[peak void]

i was being sarc 🥀

[gritty olive]

🥀

are we the bad guys

[open hare]

I don't get jokes and sarcasm very well

[peak void]

ffs i opened endfield launcher just to close it

[twilit quail]

It's legitimately like

[peak void]

what am i doing

[open hare]

U need sleep

[twilit quail]

a reasonable choice for people who arent good at timelining ebs

and just want to auto without losing that much

[hollow pine]

I used my team main DPS double slabs while saving artifice mats even my avywenna runs on double slab

[open hare]

You slabist player

[drowsy wyvern]

how do gilberta's weapons stack up compared to her sig in avywenna teams? i know sig is better obviously, but by how much? (copypasting from #help cause im getting ignored)

[dire nymph]

i slabbed lifeng to trim something

[hollow pine]

the only prob is you can't do that on phy team

[twilit quail]

so low dupe gil sig is like

[open hare]

Im gonna start calling you guys slabbists

[twilit quail]

not even really better than stanza

p0 sig is actually just worse in a lot of situations

even without the ult charge

[frozen tide]

Damn

[hollow pine]

its smart investing since most of them will probably die in 1.1. Atleast I get to play all teams I wanted to play

[frozen tide]

I thought ult charge+vuln was goated

[elder skiff]

cn got the laev’s calc already, from top to bottom it’s hotworks - tidefall - crit - double slabs

[peak void]

iana can u shill gilb sig a bit so i can feel better

[twilit quail]

this is piece of shit calc

with like

the most dishonest timelining

and vile assumptions ever

[elder skiff]

rlly?

[twilit quail]

this guy calcs with random ass wulf skill

[elder skiff]

damn

[twilit quail]

wasting SP

the WRONG GEAR PIECES

[elder skiff]

i seep

[twilit quail]

for sets he is comparing against

[drowsy wyvern]

im assuming stanza is p5? how hard would getting stanza dupes be

[twilit quail]

assumes eyja suscept 100% uptime(??)

[elder skiff]

i put cn on a too high pedestal

[twilit quail]

assumes 100% xiranite uptime(literally impossible)

[hollow pine]

I tried the Crit+slab alr it's actually bad since your only multi is 1.5x on Crit

[elder skiff]

crit is really inconsistent though, really high margin of error

[twilit quail]

like double slab is not bad

[elder skiff]

shouldn’t even consider it tbh

[gritty olive]

brought this up just for cross referencing correct?

[twilit quail]

but it's not what this guy makes it out to be

[frozen tide]

P5 might make it hypothetically possible

[elder skiff]

[drifting quest]

if double slab is just basic spam why arent you just running charge set

doesnt basic spam charge set dogwalk slab

[elder skiff]

the other guy said this calc sucked ass so just ignore it

[dawn patrol]

you don't need to artifice ig

[drifting quest]

i guess but also slabs without artificing is kinda

[gritty olive]

ok

[gritty olive]

gang

do you have potential

[hollow pine]

double slab is just an ok go to if you don't wanna use so much resources artificing different kits for different team dpss excluding phy team. But if you main pog control and DPS double slab ain't bad on pog

[hollow pine]

She's on p1

[gritty olive]

what else

[drifting quest]

slab pog

[elder skiff]

i only consider ult gain or like arts intensity pog

[gritty olive]

?

[elder skiff]

never heard of slab

[gritty olive]

[twilit quail]

slab wulfgard

[tight haven]

why slab on pog

[twilit quail]

3x crit and 1 slab is optimal for personal dmg

[drifting quest]

this is the issue with slab man

[tight haven]

or is this an epic troll

[hollow pine]

maxed out essences ahm tide yeah and how gloves

[gritty olive]

fuck me

[drifting quest]

people will look at one somewhat niche use case of slab and then start suggesting slab on other units unironically

[gritty olive]

send a video please i want to check

im currently doubting myself

[hollow pine]

as long as they clear trim could care less TBH maybe I would invested fully on gears if we get like 6* gears

[twilit quail]

im gonna tell people to start playing wulfgard main dps

[hollow pine]

I would try but still on dinner date 😂. Maybe tmr

[twilit quail]

it can trim marble!

[tight haven]

okay but why would you put slab on pog

[drifting quest]

im gonna start recommending blue gear

it can trim

[gritty olive]

do on your earliest convenience

[drifting quest]

together we can ruin the tc reputation forever

[hollow pine]

my wg on lae team is battleskill set like 142% ish he hits like 80k ish

[gritty olive]

[elder skiff]

2 gears equipped trim

with 2 empty gear spaces

[dire nymph]

i hope they add a ball boss

[elder skiff]

[dire nymph]

i trimmed the balls

[hollow pine]

so wg dps is just ok

[twilit quail]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1mcFBzKE47/

[dire nymph]

kohaku

wtf

[twilit quail]

BIG NUMBER?!

god his auto animations aer so bad

[drifting quest]

what is this evil

dps wulfgard alesh

[hollow pine]

I think this game is just peak that it doesn't matter what you run as long as you can make them work together lmao

[tight haven]

idt anyone here disagrees

this is just the theorycrafting channel so we're like

really autistic abt the game

[elder skiff]

when will the worst team possible clear the game

[drifting quest]

future proofing, minmaxxing, people who dont know what they're doing asking for advice

yada yada

[elder skiff]

arclight + catcher + flourite + something i forgot

[tight haven]

you can already solo catcher everything except the dumbass poison gas stage

[frozen tide]

There's probably separate teams for worst to progress vs worst to trim

[hollow pine]

someone solos trigo with lvl1 catcher

[drifting quest]

the whole use your favourites power of friendship is fine if thats how you want to play but its a detriment to the quality of the channel when it becomes the accepted norm

[hollow pine]

arknight endsouls lmao

[drowsy wyvern]

as long as we dont get dps time checks we'll be fine yeah

[elder skiff]

catcher is like the only one that can do it though because his parry is fast enough

others either don’t have parry or have slow ass one

[tight haven]

yeah id just say dont be surprised if people pick on you in this channel

[elder skiff]

[tight haven]

we already have #team-build for the feelscrafting crowd

[gritty olive]

by chance

[drifting quest]

likelier outcome is just people who are autistic about the game leave the server because theorycrafting genuinely just becomes teambuild

[gritty olive]

are you in wuling

[frozen tide]

I don't even think tc chat is that strict when it comes to comp

[hollow pine]

yeah

[gritty olive]

go out of wuling

[frozen tide]

As long as the comp makes sense to some degree

[gritty olive]

theres a small atk buff there

[drifting quest]

i know im jumping ship the second an actual tc space pops up

[dire nymph]

wuling has an atk buff?

[tight haven]

aurylene bonus

[hollow pine]

oh yeah the tp buff

[dire nymph]

ah

[gritty olive]

[elder skiff]

teambuild is help-2 and theorycrafting is help-3

[gritty olive]

this stupid fucking wuling buff made me double doubt myself

[gritty olive]

@tight haven

[tight haven]

YOU.

[drifting quest]

you made me panic that my food buff calculator was broken but i havent done my wuling city aurylenes

[tight haven]

download endfield NOW

[hollow pine]

trust issues self unlock

[gritty olive]

why tf is mf full not good

ahok

fuck

well shit i could say the full mf elsewhere

[dire nymph]

motherfuck

[hollow pine]

mod reading the filters scratching their heads lmao

laters

[gritty olive]

puts a smile on my face that its consistent

[elder skiff]

perfect 700 looks so uncanny

[gritty olive]

i already trimmed

what more do you want

[frozen tide]

Do dailies

Save up for smth

[drowsy wyvern]

do we know what the damage formula is? (i dont trust google to give me something up to date, it'll prob give me some cbt shit)

((trying to figure out if atk% is still good with how big atk stats can get in this game))

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

atk% here is funny

since there are three multipliers: atk% on base atk, normal atk%, and atk% from attributes

[drowsy wyvern]

im trying to do balatro shit rn, trying to balance chips and mult

[gritty olive]

and all are multiplicative to each other

[drowsy wyvern]

i dont wanna dump on mult

[gritty olive]

and ironically, one of the rarest rn is normal atk%

[dry mason]

@dry kindle

I found new build

[gritty olive]

@dry mason

[drowsy wyvern]

i assume you get it from weapon buffs?

[drifting quest]

what is atk% on base atk

vs normal atk%

like what sources

[gritty olive]

base atk atk%

[dry mason]

Laevatain max Art Intent, Last Rite in same team

Continuous combust

[drifting quest]

[dry mason]

[gritty olive]

shinonono do you have double slab artificed

[dry mason]

no i dont

[gritty olive]

fuck

[dry mason]

I followed the web

[drifting quest]

im glad that my question is sufficiently answered

[dry mason]

Which is baited?

[gritty olive]

im gonna wait for forswall then

[gritty olive]

the fuck just tell me if its confusing

[drifting quest]

what sources

since the damage doc doesnt distinguish

but 1 of the other 2 formulas does

[dry mason]

I mean Im already cleared all contents, maybe save resources for future

[drifting quest]

but nothing ive found in game has them as multiplicative

[dry mason]

But Im thinking about max ult charge mix

[gritty olive]

base atk "atk%" is from forgeborn for example. atk% that is explicitly stated to be unconditional
atk% is from "normal" atk buffs, like wait

[drifting quest]

but forgeborn is additive with things like stanza

same for food buffs like jakubs

[gritty olive]

guess its only multiplicative twice

i misread myself

[drifting quest]

if you look at something like sundering too that has both permanent and conditional attack %

[gritty olive]

cool cool. ill adjust my sims later again

[frozen tide]

It has attribute multiplier

[drifting quest]

i kept tweaking out because people were posting formulas that were triple multiplicative

[frozen tide]

And everything else

[west moon]

Next major event when?

[drifting quest]

and none of my calcs lined up as triple multiplicative

[gritty olive]

yeah thats what i thought

mb champ

[drifting quest]

i went and made attack% food to test too

[frozen tide]

I damn hope its soon im like 15 pulls short from force ange pull

[west moon]

How come that sundering steel is better than Chen signature and aspirant?

Seems silly

[drifting quest]

attack go brrrr

[west moon]

It doesn't even shows up as recommended

[drifting quest]

recommended sucks

so yeah

[twilit quail]

recommended tells you to use wnn on random chars

[west moon]

Usually it makes sense

[frozen tide]

Theres no damn way recommend has wnn in it

[drifting quest]

for most units its just wrong order of rec

[frozen tide]

That brick is worse than a lot of 5 stars

[drifting quest]

or missing nuance in recs

[gritty olive]

white night my beloved

[west moon]

Any idea when we'll get new grand vision sources?

[fading fog]

sometime I wonder what were the devs thinking here

[frozen tide]

Isn't it in perma weap banner

[lime bear]

holy this build is truly peak

[west moon]

Arclight signature that makes no sense on arclight

My favourite

[lime bear]

1 EBS + 1 CS into Ult

[west moon]

It is actually tier 2 weapon for laevas

[drifting quest]

like may 13th or something

[lime bear]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-uma-musume-its-peak-its-so-peak-umazing-gif-3466440184519113997

[frozen tide]

Somebody just shouted hey shut the fuck up rly loud outside the apartment

[west moon]

That's weirdly specific

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[frozen tide]

Cause they mowing grass at 4 am

For some reason

[drifting quest]

thats when the weekly rotation resets back to grand vision

[frozen tide]

[west moon]

Gifs when I have 1 microsecond to make a joke:

[lime bear]

P5 GV in 2 years

[west moon]

Wait, I could've had grand vision of first week?

Dammit

[tranquil burrow]

On pace with P5 Endmin

[west moon]

It means someone already has granny p3

[lime bear]

I never realized 😭

bought the 1$ pack for me

[west moon]

Weapon potentials is bullshit, I'd rather do essences

[gritty olive]

.lookinside

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1460761780866519173/T3R.png?ex=696817ec&is=6966c66c&hm=513939e651da4684d6bdcc0e9f34ed325e5410f4168763af633d92aa9e3de81c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=406&height=404

[west moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[tranquil burrow]

I love essence system in this game, it’s so peak coming from RNGfest

[lime bear]

I'm OG since it's first announced ✊ when the server was so shit

spam everywhere

[west moon]

Traded rng for rng ngl

[tranquil burrow]

This rng has an end

I already have two maxed out essences

[west moon]

They really integrated gacha system even to artificing and etching

Think of something new goddammit

[next helm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[west moon]

If we didn't had engraving tickets, it would be basically the same as other gachas

Which is funny

[gritty olive]

Shit youre also mar16 2022

[dry mason]

[gritty olive]

Hard to see one

[west moon]

When people lookinside you, despite the fact that you just left the server for a while 😔

Devs, please make sanity regen 2/m 🙏

[wild meteor]

What is it now btw

[outer ermine]

[frozen tide]

Isn't it 1/7.2 rn

2/1 is an insane increase

[gritty olive]

1/8

[wild meteor]

Oh wow

Fine increase it to 1/1

[west moon]

24 hours for 3 protocol dives is just not real

Imagine if they integrate boss rush that takes 240 sanity to claim rewards

[frozen tide]

Doesn't it say 8 in game cause its over 7 mins not cause its 8 flat

[frozen tide]

Still an absurd increase

[west moon]

I count it as 10 stamina per hour cause you also get daily syringe

So 200+40 stamina

240/24=10

[frozen tide]

Id honestly take 1/4 or smth

[west moon]

Either double stamina gain or halve protocol cost

Cause this is absurd

I do not progress without events, chests or smth like that

The gain is just that small

[fading fog]

I think it takes around 2 whole days to get the t creds for 80 to 90 and like another 3 to get the exp

[quaint matrix]

yeah it's 3rd day and i still can't lvl lifen skill from 11 to 12

[west moon]

Don't forget about blue guys

[quaint matrix]

the costs are absurd and the amount of stam we get is abyssmal

[glad niche]

Meanwhile I'm storing sanity in the thing from the BP because I am gaining more stamina than I need rn...

what are you people doing

[fading fog]

I wrote about the gains for these mats in the survey

[west moon]

You're just not doing anything?

[drifting quest]

essences, materials, etc

never enough sanity

[frozen tide]

Is the games stam even worse than other gachas

[quaint matrix]

same

[glad niche]

I have a max phys team

[frozen tide]

I remember genshins resin being pretty dogshit

[west moon]

I just set 1★ for operator progression in survey

[glad niche]

4 full investments

[fading fog]

I wrote either increase sanity gain or increase the rewards

[west moon]

Should be enough to understand that I don't like it lol

[frozen tide]

@west moon have you played other gachas

[west moon]

I played genshin for like 20 hours

[fading fog]

farming tcreds with sanity feels especially bad

[west moon]

comparing end field to genshin is pretty low bar

Don't you think so

[fading fog]

you need the thing for everything and then you get 34k for 80 sanity

[frozen tide]

Well doesn't have to be genshin

I was just wondering how endfield compares to other gachas

[west moon]

I avoid going 80 -> 90 leveling, gone from poverty to 400k tcreds

[frozen tide]

Cause whenever i see folks complaining abt smth in endfield i just think it ain't no better in any other big gacha either

[west moon]

250k for minor attribute increase is crazy

[frozen tide]

😭

[quaint matrix]

in survey i said 4 things:
story sucks,progression sucks,event rewards is very meh, no good source of arsenal tickets

[west moon]

Could ve just said that game sucks at this point

You didn't mentioned free rewards though

[fading fog]

I only 80 to 90 the main dps chars, once I'm done with yvonne I'm for sure not doing it until the leek tianshi is released

[quaint matrix]

nah, i like it.... or maybe it's because this game is something new to me. like i played wuwa for almst 2 years and now if i log in i wanna throw up and press alt+f4. only thing good there left for me is mainstory. but in endfield i feel good... for now atleast

[west moon]

And I just say, why should we compare ourselves to someone inferior?

Crave for better

[dry mason]

btw @dry kindle

ult recharge mix Lae still stronger than Hot work ?

[frozen tide]

Gachas have a reason for this standard rate of daily progression so people are inclined to play or atleast log on every day

[fading fog]

I've already cleared like 99% of the chests that could drop this 🥀

[dry kindle]

Idk 🗿

[dry mason]

[frozen tide]

I wouldn't mind if endfield didn't have this ofc

[twin plover]

Has anyone calced how long it takes to max a character including crafting mats on the ship btw?

[dry mason]

why the priority in sheet has shifted

[frozen tide]

But im not sure how good it'd be for monetization

[dry kindle]

Fund my p5 wulf

[dry mason]

My Wulf is only p3

[dry kindle]

[west moon]

24 days to raise character from 60 to 80

1 mfg cabin

Forget about dijiang, it is useless

[quaint matrix]

which one? Free selector or daily logins? i think the rewards we got on release are good. like ardelian+sign, enough std pulls for 2 6* and an extra character selector. However the wpn boxes we got are not really good imo. i would've traded 2 boxes for 1 box with std character signatures