theorycrafting

[bitter cove]

what a whale

thought only pot 1

[twilit quail]

it's probably also not insane to go for 4 stacks here maybe

[midnight stirrup]

Standard

[rare rover]

checks out i guess if u do the numbers

[midnight stirrup]

And one LR from horizon

[midnight stirrup]

Not rly

On average u spend more

[open hare]

Is this what a power of a job is

[midnight stirrup]

I got lucky with p5 laev

[open hare]

If I get a job, I can whale

[bitter cove]

have they found a way to track pull on mobile

[rare rover]

not luckier than me

[frozen tide]

Whats it supposed to show

I don't speak or read mandarin

[rare rover]

very important stuff (me neither)

[twilit quail]

just look at the timeline bro

[rare rover]

the background music is nice

[twilit quail]

[rare rover]

too lazy

[bitter cove]

its basically gil ult to boost LR ult

[rare rover]

makes sense

[twilit quail]

if that was it, it wouldnt be very impressive

but I think it's not actually insane to go for 4 ice 2 combo with this

[bitter cove]

does reaction take 1 infliction or all infliction
like lets say 4 heat 1 cryo

does it make it 3 heat or all consume for reaction

[bitter cove]

does it generate enough energy?

[frozen tide]

Maybe I'm dense but i dont see anything impressive

[twilit quail]

ok Im not sure about this you need an insane amount of charge

[midnight stirrup]

This is not a hard thing to test by yourself

Login to the game breh

[bitter cove]

thats what i wondering about

[twilit quail]

this needs

so much fucking charge

for 4 ice 2 combo

[midnight stirrup]

Yes I am

[twilit quail]

like

245.6 for ange

[midnight stirrup]

I got 2 P5, you got Ember

[twilit quail]

186 for perlica

[rare rover]

nuh uh

[midnight stirrup]

[twilit quail]

yeah probably not happening

[rare rover]

i dont have ember

[midnight stirrup]

Liar

Show ur account rn

[twilit quail]

ok see that's the thing right

it works and is competitive

[twilit quail]

and this unit is obviously, you know, much better than anything else available in AoE

[midnight stirrup]

Dont get me wrong. Its good its possible

[twilit quail]

so if someone gets gilb

with LR

I dont think they should raise ard at all

[midnight stirrup]

But if u need sig while being slightly worse than Ardelia

[twilit quail]

they should just play this

[midnight stirrup]

Ardelia with sig was free

[twilit quail]

no Im doing maths on monaihe perlica

or thermite ake

• stanza gil

and it's basically the same

[midnight stirrup]

Oh I see

[twilit quail]

LR does have the stagger

[rare rover]

no ember here

[twilit quail]

to let ake stack thermite

[clear iris]

anyone have any idea what skill prio is for yvonne

[twilit quail]

before she does the damage, generally

[midnight stirrup]

Blud ur not luckier than me 😭

Unless thats f2p

[twilit quail]

the gil sig is not that good here, I thought I needed the charge rate but I dont

[clear iris]

you know what im gonna just guess

[open hare]

Guess

Gamba

[midnight stirrup]

I mean I intended to lose

[twilit quail]

it's looking like

[midnight stirrup]

I didnt want P5 Laev

[bitter cove]

shes a dps

[twilit quail]

xaihi with one seal

[bitter cove]

so all

[midnight stirrup]

[twilit quail]

gil 3x xiranite and one hotworks bank

[rare rover]

true, bro wanted to be intentionally unlucky

[frozen tide]

Ic

[clear iris]

incredibly helpful thank you

[twilit quail]

I think the biggest appeal of this to some players

[open hare]

Let me spend 4 million wuling credits so I can artifice

[civic wolf]

how do you maintain Akekuri ult so that she's available for ults everytime Lava unleashes ult mode?

[twilit quail]

is that you get to play team with 4 girls

[bitter cove]

prio probably like ult > bs > basic = combo

[civic wolf]

do you just spam a lot of Akekuri BS?

[twilit quail]

I think that's unironically the biggest pull

LMAO

[midnight stirrup]

I got LR constantly with only 3 Pogs overall

[open hare]

I agree

[midnight stirrup]

And never touched Lifeng Ember and Ardelia

[open hare]

4 girls

[midnight stirrup]

Thats pretty fucking lucky

Icl

[open hare]

4 women

[midnight stirrup]

Esp since I wanted LR maxed

But anyway

Yea ur lucky

[wind nebula]

BS gives same Ult to the whole team no matter who casts

[midnight stirrup]

Not as lucky as me tho fuck u

[rare rover]

frankly i believe in the balance of the universe cause while i never lost a 50/50 my buddy lost all his and got 2 embers

[civic wolf]

when do i use Ake BS then?

[rare rover]

nuh uh f u

[civic wolf]

currently at 131 secs rhodagn and idk what can i improve

[rare rover]

food

[civic wolf]

yellow ginseng on Lava

[wind nebula]

AOE, or never, or if you want more heat stack and there's already one on the enemy so you don't consume it with wulfgard

[open hare]

Kill him faster

[civic wolf]

do i need to max out on weapon etching

[rare rover]

then git gud ig? theres nothing more than food u need

[civic wolf]

9/9?

[rare rover]

no i did it withou any etching or artificing first try so def not

[green acorn]

what's Laev's attack, that will generally highlight if there's deficiencies somewhere in the build

[dapper mason]

honestly just try raw hot work set

and use your er set at triaggelos and marble

[civic wolf]

marble i get 5 mins

[frozen tide]

Thoughts on lr xai ard gilb? With gilb stanza

[frozen tide]

Marble is in all metrics much harder than rhod

[twilit quail]

seems unplayable

what makes gilb work is actually

[rare rover]

makes sense, marble is a direct dps check so if u cant clear rhod u def cant clear marble

[twilit quail]

making corrosion

with ult

I guess there is like

a burst timeline you can use

but that is speedrunning comp

[civic wolf]

Ginseng active

[rare rover]

you know marbles flight attack where it bombards u with lazers, yeah once that happens your run is over , u must clear it before then

[civic wolf]

im guessing its this 😔

[rare rover]

try regular hotwork then?

is the energy build even completely etched cause if not then theres no point to using it

artificed i mean

[civic wolf]

fully artificed on the ER gain

WIP on intellect Artifice

[rare rover]

huh...

just try hotwork then, u dont need to upgrade it i dont think

but frankly

i think its cause of your rotation or som

[bitter cove]

he did a video demonstration ytd

[civic wolf]

idk

kinda exhausted on seeing people seeing it's ez but then somehow when i try to do it its a struggle

[dawn patrol]

i got this and still got the trim lmfao

[civic wolf]

currently trying to see if anim cancels makes my runs better

[dapper mason]

the last night video he sent the rotation is good

[civic wolf]

ive been hit by an account debuff that makes enemies tankier by 10% only for my account...

[frozen tide]

Ic

[civic wolf]

every Endfield account is personalized

[twilit quail]

ok so

you get ult with 1 ebs 1 combo 2 team skills

if you route the abilities better

[rare rover]

try antal if u can instead of akekuri

[civic wolf]

i havent invested on on Antal

💀

[twilit quail]

is that obj

on akekuri

It looks like it to me

that's really rough

[rare rover]

buddy just level him up to 60 , slap his ult and skil talants up to like 4 or 5 then give him gold gear and your good

[frozen tide]

I thought you were looking at lr xai gilb per who even has ebs

[twilit quail]

that is for lae

why would it be for lr

[frozen tide]

Oh ur talking abt that vid

Thought you were still cooking lr with gilb

[twilit quail]

there is a different discussion

in the channel

[civic wolf]

Yeah but IM THAT BROKE

SANITYLESS

[digital scroll]

It's your set. Switch to Hotwork

[dapper mason]

try hotwork

[rare rover]

man u dont even need gold gear on antal just slap anything on him

for sakes i had a mix of purple and blue on him when i used bro for trims

[bitter cove]

u can chest hunt to get mats lv for 1-60

[digital scroll]

If it takes more than a full Laev Ult skill with Akekuri buff on first phase then there's a problem

[civic wolf]

my world is dry bro

[twilit quail]

you are using charge set but gaining none of its advantages

because your ability routing is bad

also that has to be akekuri on obj

which is a problem

[civic wolf]

no its thermite Ake

how am i supposed to know that while i was investing on ER Lava set btw 😔

guess all those artifice was for nothing

[frozen tide]

Do anim cancels!

[dry kindle]

its therm

[bitter cove]

thermite looks so bad, it looks like a 5star weapon

[digital scroll]

Most guides say Hotwork

[rare rover]

the ult cult strikes again

[rare rover]

cultist , cultist are here!

[civic wolf]

maybe some of you need to tell whoever put that pinned thing that its harder to use

[digital scroll]

Ult chest piece for comfort or Lynx slab for slightly more damage

[twilit quail]

you are just standing and autoing for no reason

when you could be in ult instead

[dapper mason]

just use unartifice hotwork for this rhodagn

[twilit quail]

you cancelled like two combos and lost them completely

youre wasting wulf ult

[dry kindle]

just use the forbidden double slab miner gloves

[digital scroll]

True, I think I cleared without artifice and just basic

[twilit quail]

losing so many usages of combos

[bitter cove]

his wulf is not p5, but i agree he can use it to trigger lae's combo instead

[frozen tide]

Laev cancel is just

1 1 dash fs dash right

[bitter cove]

kust

[frozen tide]

In ult

[twilit quail]

usually we just do 1 2 combo > shift 3 4

[bitter cove]

A A dash(after the first hit) A A
can cancel 4th but u need to do it after the 2nd hit

[frozen tide]

🖕

[twilit quail]

combo cancel is really good

[frozen tide]

Theres no reason not to

Its just better dps better application

[bitter cove]

not anim cancel combo is so bad

[rich linden]

I just saw a video of pot 5 laeva taking 4 mins to clear rhododogan

[frozen tide]

[rich linden]

[frozen tide]

How

Was it like lvl 60

[dapper mason]

lvl 1

[rich linden]

They were using endmin weapon

[digital scroll]

Were they not fully geared

[twilit quail]

gaming

[rich linden]

No no

[civic wolf]

First try trim on hot Work set

[frozen tide]

That's an innovator

[civic wolf]

aight i need to speak to the spreadsheet guy

[frozen tide]

He's right here

[heady pine]

hes literally here

[rare rover]

iana is litterally here

[dapper mason]

food buff too

[civic wolf]

ye

[bitter cove]

i mean endmin weapon is locked behind paywall(1 dollah) so it supposed to be the best weapon for everyone /s

[civic wolf]

give me refund for my artificies i feel scammed

[rare rover]

[frozen tide]

[rare rover]

@twilit quail u heard the man

[digital scroll]

I just use the 30% DMG food. I was too lazy for anything else

[dapper mason]

no its really good on triaggelos and marble

[frozen tide]

Iana owes him a 30 dollar bundle

Clearly

[twilit quail]

dude

your gameplay is horrid

icl

[manic blade]

LOL

[frozen tide]

[rare rover]

[twilit quail]

youre not using the set's advantages, like, at all

[midnight stirrup]

Nuh uh f u

[rare rover]

Nuh uh F u

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-no-patrick-star-patrick-nope-gif-9473600452124631034

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-fuck-you-middle-finger-middle-finger-gif-15294280

[civic wolf]

yeah but maybe make it clear that it's harder to use than hot work 😭

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/mikonay-gif-8380132108161814674

[civic wolf]

how am i supposed to know that its harder to use

i first tried with hot work

[midnight stirrup]

@outer ermine Is it possible to one tap rhod at max invest lr without food

[rich linden]

You get forced cutscene no?

[twilit quail]

ok maybe I need to take a step back

this is

[rich linden]

Or can u bypass that w big damage

[twilit quail]

troubling

[midnight stirrup]

U can bypass if high enough dmg on combo

[rich linden]

Daaamn

[midnight stirrup]

So basically his whole hp

[rich linden]

Das crazy

[midnight stirrup]

Bro whats up with my typing recently

[rare rover]

some people have done it 1 tapping rhod

[midnight stirrup]

I be typing words that werent in my head when about to write it

[rare rover]

not sure if a laev has done it though, def last rites

[midnight stirrup]

Laev cant do it lol

[mild quarry]

Avy stew...

[midnight stirrup]

Shes no nuker

[rich linden]

Man idk if I should also build a ult gain set for laeva or not

[digital scroll]

I don't think even P5 Laev can

[rare rover]

SAY THAT AGAIN

[bitter cove]

she can if she stagger him

[elder skiff]

lr more st dmg and better nuker than laev

[midnight stirrup]

I said without food

[rare rover]

but she CAN nuke

[dapper mason]

there still 1 things . hifumi been trying to. 1 tap without using LR ult

[midnight stirrup]

Everyone can with food

[rare rover]

well maybe not ember kek

[digital scroll]

Catcher one shot

[rich linden]

Can you cook food

[elder skiff]

everyone? yvonne slander when

[rich linden]

Or do u have to uber eats everytime

[bitter cove]

u cant cook food

u craft food

[digital scroll]

Skip Yvonne the fraud. Pull Supreme Chief Tangtang instead

[rich linden]

Ah right ofcourse

[rare rover]

nuh uh my mom says i make a stellar krafts mac n cheese

[rich linden]

Do you follow the box recipe?

[elder skiff]

yvonne will be close to LR with p2 guys, i trust my potential woman

[rare rover]

(i dont make krafts mac n cheese)

[rich linden]

Breh

[bitter cove]

theres a reason why its called witchcraft and not witchcook

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/albert-einstein-lol-think-be-smart-think-wise-gif-8735407

[twilit quail]

Ive had like

so many people tell me things that lead me to believe

theyre just afking until second ebs with charge set

if the user is just like

not using the charge rate at all

[rich linden]

What

[twilit quail]

huh I guess yeah

maybe slab

maybe slab was right

[rare rover]

IANA NO

NOT THE SLAB PROPOGANDA

[dire nymph]

[twilit quail]

maybe I should just tell the average guy

to make 2x slab

[dire nymph]

<3

[rare rover]

@dry kindle STOP HER

[digital scroll]

Yes, slab

[rich linden]

What is charge rate

[dire nymph]

i have a 2x slab i built since i wanted a lifeng screenshot

[midnight stirrup]

Doube slap last rite bis

[civic wolf]

Idk what u mean by charge rate ngl i thought the way that it works is that you end your ult state with 4 stacks, you get a enhanced skill right away and be able to quickly work towrads being able to ult again?

[midnight stirrup]

[twilit quail]

1 combo 1 ebs 2 team skills

it should just be

in and out of ult constantly

[rich linden]

Yes

[twilit quail]

basically 0 downtime

[rich linden]

I agree

[twilit quail]

you can also use hotwork, do no EBS during ult

end ult with 4 stacks MF 3 stacks on enemy

[swift tundra]

2x slab is the wey. Cost efficient. Can work for any upcoming dps.

[twilit quail]

ebs > autos > team skills > ebs

[rare rover]

propoganda

[twilit quail]

and go back into ult

[rare rover]

get THEM

[twilit quail]

but Im also worried

that people cant do that

[rich linden]

Whats mf

[twilit quail]

so like maybe the average guy should just go slab

[rich linden]

And charge rate pls

[twilit quail]

and just hold m1

[civic wolf]

oh so i'm not supposed to fire team skills during ult state?

[bitter cove]

mother f acer

[rich linden]

Ive never seen that term ingame

[twilit quail]

your prio is ult uptime especially in fight like this

[civic wolf]

aside from ardelia for sus maintenance?

[elder skiff]

trusting people with the lynx slab propaganda is similar to trusting people that say yvonne is a must pull

[bitter cove]

its melting flame

[midnight stirrup]

It means motherducker

[twilit quail]

ard debuff application good

but dont do any EBS that would slow down your getting back into ult after it ends

[midnight stirrup]

Nobody says that

[bitter cove]

its on laev passive desc

[twilit quail]

you can just try to end with 4 stacks and some SP in the back

[digital scroll]

Max your slab. Don't think about the stats. Just max it

[midnight stirrup]

Exposing urself

[twilit quail]

and then you can instantly go back into ult

[elder skiff]

yvonne is a must pull guys

[rare rover]

blasphemy

[civic wolf]

so i basically need to somehow avoid ending the ult state with having 0 stacks??

[dire nymph]

i thought ur laev was on frontier

[twilit quail]

yes dont end with 0 stacks in stock

generally

[rare rover]

real ones know 2 slabs+food cannot match the atk stat of a hotwork+food

[twilit quail]

unless if you have wulfgard combo off CD

[digital scroll]

Nah, Hotwork with Slab

[twilit quail]

and you can put 3 stacks on enemy

[rare rover]

[elder skiff]

2 slabs is more atk but u lose all the dmg bonus from stuff

[civic wolf]

yeah I feel this is going to be a struggle lmao

[twilit quail]

dude

just hold down m1

[rare rover]

nuh uh

prove it

[civic wolf]

yeah but what about the combo skills?

[elder skiff]

u reach 1k int with 2 slabs

[civic wolf]

i'm already holding down M1 but apperently i did it wrong in the video?

[mild quarry]

Waiting for an agility slab

[twilit quail]

ok so basically

[rare rover]

we talking about atk prove it

[digital scroll]

Big number

[twilit quail]

ake combo is a non factor

[twilit quail]

it comes up when it comes up

[elder skiff]

int boosts atk

[twilit quail]

wulf you want to get as many usages of as possible

[digital scroll]

[twilit quail]

by using akekuri skill whenever you have the spare SP

[dire nymph]

lucksakc

[twilit quail]

because it's just free stacks

[civic wolf]

actually

i think atp its better if we get a rotation vid on ult spam Lava 😭

[manic blade]

low key

[twilit quail]

generally if you do this properly you get one EBS per ult that is boosted by suscept

[civic wolf]

Im pretty sure everyone who did a trim vid did it with Hot Rod

[twilit quail]

ok time to take off my weapon on lae

[manic blade]

go read skill descriptions on all ur characters

ard corrosion consumption is going to skyrocket ur dmg...

[civic wolf]

i mean i know how they work including Ardelia skill after ardelia CS but like

its the combo CDs i basically have no feedback on

[manic blade]

and ur running one cycle understand melting flame stacks and how u need to ake bskill for ex before ur laev final strike

[rich linden]

I may be blind. I can't find it😭

[manic blade]

but hot works is arguably better than 1 cycle at p0 I think it's rlly close

[swift tundra]

soy hotworks+tide body surtr at 42 seconds
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hnfZBcEoi?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.0
vs
chad crit set+slab surtr at 38 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzqM95Y1cQ

[bitter cove]

sorry i lied, its on battle skill itself

[rare rover]

they just didnt have a good enough hot work trust

[elder skiff]

crit only better in ~30s clears, literal propaganda

even slab is better than hotwork in ~30s

[rich linden]

Okay so I am blind. I don't see it

[bitter cove]

its okay, its our curse, gacha gamer curse

[rare rover]

every gacha players worst nightmare, reading

[digital scroll]

We Crit fishing

[civic wolf]

so if i wanna trim the other two bosses is hot work better than ult?

[rare rover]

hotwork is better overall trust me bro

[rich linden]

Ur telling me that image says what charge rate it?

Im ab to send this to chatgpt

[civic wolf]

soo what do i do with my artificed ult gain set

[rare rover]

cry

[civic wolf]

that guide made it sound like ult gain is better than hot work

bruh

[chilly bolt]

bricked by guide

[elder skiff]

use ult gain for gil i guess

[digital scroll]

Which guide?

[rare rover]

theres a reason i call em cultists

[open hare]

Can Mon3str just powercreep everyone instead

[chilly bolt]

people dont realize you literally give up on dps to have a better ult cycle

[rich linden]

Wtf is charge rate

[bitter cove]

took me a while to process and i still dont get what u meant
wdym "image says what charge rate it?"

[elder skiff]

ult gain set propaganda

[rare rover]

fr

[open hare]

It's been on this channel for a while

[civic wolf]

i want a refund for the artifices i had to sink into this

😔

[digital scroll]

You Ult twice as fast for 1/4 the damage

[open hare]

Just get all the damage

Twice as fast just for no damage

[rare rover]

they just never believe me bro, these propograna cultists keep getting them every time

[swift tundra]

just get strong enough to kill everything in 1 ult.

[chilly bolt]

should have put a brick warning on that build

[rich linden]

I was saying how Ive never seen the term "charge rate" being mentioned ingame, then you said its in the skill. But I cant find it

[digital scroll]

Ult sets are pretty much just for supports

[open hare]

Ah yes, let me get 100 ults in just to do 0 damage

[bitter cove]

wait i thought u were asking about MF terms?

[digital scroll]

Most clears will take you just one or two ult cycles. At least currently

[rich linden]

That too xd

[open hare]

Im about to go to hibernation

[bitter cove]

idk where people say charge rate, i call it ult gen/ult gain to suit more with ingame term

[rare rover]

sleep , go to sleep

[rich linden]

I get magma fragment is mf now tho atleast :')

[open hare]

No, its my data that's running out

[rich linden]

Ah so its the same thing

[rare rover]

sleep go to sleep

[open hare]

Time to order a very large drink so I can leech off starbucks

[rich linden]

Why would u call it charge rate

[rare rover]

sleep go to sleep

[civic wolf]

the guide kinda made sense to me cuz Lava does feel at her strongest during ult state

im just sad about all the artifices i lost to that build like, man

[bitter cove]

naah
magma fker

[open hare]

I'll make you go to sleep

https://tenor.com/view/miku-angry-meme-goku-angry-miku-meme-meme-hatsune-miku-gif-5683637212704483663

[rare rover]

is that a promise?

[dapper mason]

its okay just keep the ER set. you still can trim with unartifice hotwork

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-holding-flower-gif-5334994179370395420

[icy minnow]

You could use it for literally all other content and it's very comfy

[civic wolf]

especially since some of it are the one from the one time purchase 200 artifice ticket

[open hare]

Just invade my house and I can guarantee it

[twilit quail]

I just dont know cause it looks fine on paper and I havent received any negative feedback on it from anywhere other than this server

[chilly bolt]

people dont buy 200 artifice bottles first ?

[rich linden]

No

[twilit quail]

literally only in this server

have people come and told me

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-short-scream-excited-moistcritical-gif-18689575

[chilly bolt]

im so bricked

[twilit quail]

Im having trouble doing trim with it

[bitter cove]

nono actually
miku f'er

[open hare]

I spent 1m to get the last 99

[civic wolf]

nah i was worried so i hold some restrain in buying them up

[digital scroll]

I buy the 40 first, and then use the cheap ones if I run out

[civic wolf]

currently at 120/200

[open hare]

What did you just say

Say that again

[civic wolf]

maybe its cuz the people who gave it a try mostly is from this server?

[swift tundra]

always buy out all the limited ones first and slowly chip away at the permanent ones.

[civic wolf]

on paper doesnt mean its good in practice bruh

😭

[open hare]

Yes

[twilit quail]

there's like

4 discord servers

and 3 qq groups

[chilly bolt]

i bought everything, even i bought all the 120k ones today

[civic wolf]

Well

[twilit quail]

and Ive received negative feedback on it like

once

outside of this server

[open hare]

It's like making a plan for boxing till you get Mike Tyson on the other side of the ring

[twilit quail]

from like several dozens of people who have used it

[civic wolf]

this is the most casual serv so

[bitter cove]

people were using it too on other server i joining in and they dont have any negative feedback

[twilit quail]

it's fine on paper, I did other people's trims with it

[civic wolf]

yoou're getting feedback from the people whos the most unaware of how it works

i try to look on youtube

i see Hot Work Lava

so i have no frame of reference on how to do do ult gain Lava

[chilly bolt]

my friends on server all agreed on it dealing less dps

[rare rover]

i see no conventional hotwork, i speak propoganda

[open hare]

More ult for damage sacrifice

Is it worth it

[swift tundra]

That's why good scientists back their claims with real experiments and proof.

[open hare]

Fah no

[rare rover]

big numbers make me go hard, does ult charge do that? no

[open hare]

What about the 2 billion damage on hsr

Thats a big number right

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-hot-busted-nut-gif-21810567

[open hare]

I think he busted

[chilly bolt]

but ult gain definitely does make using surtr feel very fluid

[open hare]

This isnt the surtr I know anymore

Where's my patriot solo

[digital scroll]

Fast Ult doesn't really make sense when you can start with ult, and can easily build to another Ult for a two ult clear. I think only fast Ult is good for the triangle boss

[rare rover]

careful laev is gonna neuter u if she hears u call her that

[bitter cove]

bcoz it is not surtr
its laevatain

[open hare]

What

[bitter cove]

what

[rare rover]

ayo

[chilly bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-arknights-just-use-surtr-gif-24975177

[bitter cove]

i mean would but what

[swift tundra]

okbuddy

[open hare]

What are you guys talking about

[compact bridge]

What is the best gear for gilberta? Xiranite or bonecrusher?

[open hare]

Clear signs of hallucinations here

[rare rover]

why arent u getting ready for your sp banner eh?

[bitter cove]

ok ill mf

[twilit quail]

there are other considerations that I didnt put in the document like other characters also being able to use the charge set pieces

[civic wolf]

is fast ult going to be good only on open world and crowd scenarios?

[twilit quail]

and the probable 0 ult start becoming the standard later

[gritty olive]

yeah it does less damage but you get more consistent damage

[twilit quail]

cause it's not directly relevant

[digital scroll]

Probably, yeah. It makes sense to use it there

[open hare]

What if Yvonne had 100% crit rate

[rare rover]

shes still not hit 1m

[open hare]

Does she shoot 50 caliber

[gritty olive]

but for now, that more consistent damage is not relevant. i have a full artificed er set and i trimmed medals with a half built pyrometers

[open hare]

Aw man

[swift tundra]

Her burst damage being spread over 7 seconds of mandatory animation is her problem.

[rich linden]

It does less dmg during ult, but you stay in ult longer

[rare rover]

u guys artificed gear to get trims?

[bitter cove]

imagine need to be a sitting duck for 7s to burst

[gritty olive]

you dont stay in ult longer
more like you wait less for thenext ulr

[compact bridge]

Who spread that misinformation? 70k jades with 230 ticket ready to use rn

[rich linden]

I still dont have my trims

[sly nymph]

why are some ppl using arclight with yvonne

[digital scroll]

Don't you have P5 Laev

[open hare]

Guys, where's my oroberyls

[rich linden]

I mean overall during the entire fight

[rare rover]

well technically she was like p3 or p2 at the time

[gritty olive]

yeah sure

[open hare]

Guess I gotta clean Valley IV of the chest

[gritty olive]

stay in ult longer kinda means "you stay in ult for 10 seconds more each cast"

but i understand

[rich linden]

Yea mb

[midnight stirrup]

Zyrenn

[open hare]

Daijobu Skadi

[rich linden]

Yeees

[noble tapir]

The hardest part about the endmin 4/3/4 rotation is waiting for pog cs to come back up before doing the first crush lmao

[midnight stirrup]

You know Kuratine is one of the people that came up with ult set right

[open hare]

Your fish squad is Daijobu

[midnight stirrup]

[gritty olive]

i didnt. i saw on iana's sheet that ult is recced

so why not

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

[civic wolf]

jades
go back to Honkai Fraudrail

[midnight stirrup]

Then mb

[open hare]

Honkai isnt that bad

[rare rover]

hey hey we dont diss on honkai peakrail

[bitter cove]

wow what a missinformation

death penalty

[twilit quail]

is it literally just the order theyre put in

oh my god

it's just bceause it's first on the left

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[open hare]

I only came back to Honkai cause of Saber

[gritty olive]

what are you babblin iana

[open hare]

Even though my whole team is literally saber

[twilit quail]

so like for the record

hot work has always been the ceiling

[open hare]

Isn't that saber

[twilit quail]

for 0+1

[gritty olive]

honestly idk

[twilit quail]

if the player is playing well

it is going to be superior to everything else

[chilly bolt]

people are too used to tierlist they automatically assume left build > right build, upper build > lower build

[bitter cove]

0+1 is p0 with sig?

[gritty olive]

yeah. it should be 0+0 here

[rare rover]

u should really put an expert warning to the guide or like a very detailed guide on how to use it

[gritty olive]

but 0+0 is assumed to be no sig for genshin and hsr i guess

[twilit quail]

no i think

[rare rover]

but hotwork still better

[twilit quail]

im going to unironically

[rare rover]

[midnight stirrup]

[twilit quail]

tell people to use 2x slab

2x slab is going to be better for bad player

than hot work

[rare rover]

PROPOGANDA

[midnight stirrup]

So 90% of the playerbase

Fair enough

[gritty olive]

i will also calculate slab

[twilit quail]

like genuinely

[digital scroll]

Nah, hot work and Ult chest is better for a good majority.

[twilit quail]

I think the average player is probably going to get better results with it

even if the ceiling is objectively lower

[gritty olive]

@rare zodiac youre gonna get dragged to this mud with me

[twilit quail]

if you optimise the autos it's like

[gritty olive]

[twilit quail]

it's not super far off

[rare rover]

propoganda i say as they silence me in numbers!

[twilit quail]

and rather than telling people with hot work to go

end ult with 4 stacks MF and 3 stacks fire on enemy

it's probably easier to just have them use slab

[noble tapir]

Is there any content where ult efficiency set actually makes a meaningful difference?

[bitter cove]

umbral

[rare rover]

i cant believe im hearing all this blasphemy

[gritty olive]

[elder skiff]

[rare rover]

nuh uh

[gritty olive]

"hypothetically" in umbral monument with no ult start

[noble tapir]

Bro said fuck it we run it all

[dawn patrol]

finally cleared hub of chests and aurylenes

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275737447803654146/1471666704785604835/image0.jpg?ex=698fc3ec&is=698e726c&hm=22703ad1dd29fe9bd1a1c6fa10e36504b9a4916b6762b15760149af47b7cc09a&

[rare rover]

congrats have a sticker

[gritty olive]

ill put slab on top

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/coach-josh-wood-coach-josh-gold-star-gold-star-gif-593378152944786379

[dawn patrol]

can i have a fan instead my laptop is so hot rn

[gritty olive]

so that you know its better than h*tworks or ch*rge

[rare rover]

no thats too expensive

[civic wolf]

okay nevermind maggle trim is miserable

[chilly bolt]

what's this sheet

[open hare]

Just go play in the anartica

[gritty olive]

my sheet

[civic wolf]

MY ATTACK MISSES BECAUSE THEY DECIDED TO FLY AWAY

[gritty olive]

for laeva

[rare rover]

cult propoganda

[gritty olive]

marble?

[dawn patrol]

dodge cancel

[open hare]

Well, run faster

[chilly bolt]

can i have the link

[civic wolf]

yea

[dawn patrol]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=245588407#gid=245588407

[digital scroll]

Looks good

[noble tapir]

I could see the third umbral stage having ult efficinecy maybe mattering

[gritty olive]

so

[noble tapir]

But the other two I just killed in one laev ult anyawy

[open hare]

Third stage is so buns

[gritty olive]

nvm its hard to explain

[dawn patrol]

third isn't as bad as worms

[midnight stirrup]

Skill issue. Happens in wuwa all the time

[open hare]

I cant even bother to bat a eye on third stage

[midnight stirrup]

[dawn patrol]

hi pepper

[bitter cove]

just fly

[open hare]

Wuwa bosses are also buns

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-fish-gif-2661450688707713913

[gritty olive]

ill complete this

[noble tapir]

wuwa endgame has Hyvatia now

[gritty olive]

[noble tapir]

:)

[open hare]

Still buns

[dawn patrol]

looking around for what you're the only pepper here

[gritty olive]

let me just finish my inschool tasks

[open hare]

I only like

[gritty olive]

byebye

[rare rover]

f u btw [im winning this bickering]

[midnight stirrup]

No im salt today

[noble tapir]

That's the point, he goes to space every 5 seconds for shits and giggles

[elder skiff]

i mean like mornye and aemeath can literally fly, bosses flying can't be a problem right

[dawn patrol]

🧂

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/zani-zani-wink-wuthering-waves-wuthering-zani-wuthering-zani-wink-gif-7290781448361088272

[civic wolf]

also wuwa characters sometimes straight up have comically larger vertical hitbox

[midnight stirrup]

Peppercat left dead in a ditch from all the cringe in this chat yday

[dawn patrol]

what happened yesterday

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-gif-gif-8524601943548603280

[noble tapir]

Sure if you use that one specific team. God forbid you're using like... Calcharo or some shit

[open hare]

Favorite wuwa character

[civic wolf]

its a lot less of an issue there than Endfield who is 1.0 and is ALREADY having bosses that are way too fast for characters to land their attacks

[digital scroll]

Just use Brant for flying enemies

[midnight stirrup]

Idiots in chat being idiots making me and shuo lose braincells

[noble tapir]

Wife mentioned

[elder skiff]

who uses calculator in wuwa

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-wuwa-cartethiya-chibi-anime-gif-6278703549286853662

[midnight stirrup]

Respectfully

[civic wolf]

Maggle suddenly jumping to the side is very ????

[open hare]

This is also good

[dawn patrol]

isn't that just normal tc anyway

[open hare]

Now where's my great vertical split

[midnight stirrup]

Depends on the time of day

[gritty olive]

btw i lost yestenright

[rare rover]

bro brough shou outta nowhere

[midnight stirrup]

Yesterday was rly bad

[gritty olive]

hoederer wasnt blocking amiya

[open hare]

Imagine

[digital scroll]

You just have to stagger them as fast as possible and ult

[gritty olive]

[midnight stirrup]

Did I lie

No

[civic wolf]

stuff like this makes me question if i should keep investing on Lava and do a hard turn to Ember 😔

[noble tapir]

Also I missed idiots in chat? Woe is me

[rare rover]

FRICK THERES TOO MANY TO PING

[dawn patrol]

you spelled it wrong too 💔

[midnight stirrup]

L fan

[gritty olive]

this is why i changed my nickname

[bitter cove]

calcharo in 2026? damn

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/henya-vshojo-wave-hi-gif-3346747010309976301

[noble tapir]

Morment will never let him die

[rare rover]

oh i was wondering why i never saw monika for a bit

[noble tapir]

Also DPM wants 6 teams so it's more reasonable to use him there

For literal max rewards anyway

[digital scroll]

Up to you, but then you can just use Wulfgard to shoot them and physical doesn't really have range

[elder skiff]

calcharo is a good teammate for S6 cartethyia, it's just that you can't switch out of car so the team can be good

[bitter cove]

can or cant be good?

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-cartethyia-cooking-bilibili-frying-gif-17089120213738119546

[noble tapir]

He got a boost with Lynae at least

[outer ermine]

prob need ult but yea

[gritty olive]

the fuck

never bothered to check people

[open hare]

How do the developers see us I wonder

[noble tapir]

Psychos. They even posted about it

[civic wolf]

trying to do triaggleos only to get knocked by the first meteor

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-gudako-gif-11289598

[rare rover]

dead ah earlier i was talking about the group of theory crafters i know and i was like

theres shou, iana, sworce and who was that one person i talked to weeks ago i didnt realised u changed yer name

[civic wolf]

multiple times

WHEN DOES THE HITBOX HAPPEN

[digital scroll]

Skill issue

[civic wolf]

no seriously that meteor has a hitbox that's larger than its animation

[dawn patrol]

yes

[open hare]

Just dodge bro

[bitter cove]

just run bro

[noble tapir]

Just right click

[digital scroll]

I just run until it hits

[dawn patrol]

just learn timing lol

[open hare]

Dodge to aurafarm

No need to heal if you dodge everything

[bitter cove]

u dont need to force urself to dodge that shit when u can just run

[gritty olive]

.mommy

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1394343900260335748/ezgif-4f404687b7d39a.gif

[open hare]

Indeed a mom

[digital scroll]

You can't hit the dude, so no point dodging. Just run until mf is down to hit

[rare rover]

[open hare]

Till you remember what she did in ursus

Skadi, ⚓️

[rare rover]

whatever she did in ursus, she can do me

[open hare]

You are cooked

She ain't doing anything to you

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/im-ready-to-be-punished-andrew-ruthless-s1e19-im-ready-to-take-the-consequences-gif-25018319

[open hare]

The government is

All she did was see if you were lying or not

Then you get your ah rocked in

[rare rover]

is that a promise?

[open hare]

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-holding-flower-gif-5334994179370395420

[rare zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/300-gif-23783717

[open hare]

Syeuo is a mimic

[civic wolf]

TRIANGLE TRIM TOO

[rare rover]

yeah probaly a mimic

[civic wolf]

ULT SET IS A FRAUD

AAAAAAAAAAAHH

[open hare]

yeah probaly a mimic

[rare rover]

never heard of this syeuo fellow though

[open hare]

never heard of this syeuo fellow though

[digital scroll]

Side question. Anyone know which variation of the Physical team has been calced the strongest

[rare rover]

cultist!

[open hare]

cultist!

[rare rover]

the one thats the strongest

[digital scroll]

[rare rover]

am i wrong?

[elder skiff]

an iq too high

[digital scroll]

[elder skiff]

[open hare]

I would keep mimicking but

(｡Ó﹏Ò｡)

[bitter cove]

the strongest? probably gojo

[open hare]

I would keep mimicking but
(｡Ó﹏Ò｡)

[rare zodiac]

Spam report

[open hare]

Ok

My baf

[noble tapir]

I would keep mimicking but
(｡Ó﹏Ò｡)

[open hare]

Wiat

It wasn't me

[rare rover]

why u spamming

[open hare]

Yo

[civic wolf]

i am so glad i dont have to fight dorito ever again (for now)

[open hare]

He's framing me

[civic wolf]

somehow the lamest boss ever

[rare zodiac]

Lmao the frame work

[digital scroll]

Yeah, it's my least favorite

[open hare]

Im getting framed

[civic wolf]

even the music pisses me off

[open hare]

What music

[civic wolf]

fuck this orchsetralslop

[open hare]

You guys get music?

I know what I'm getting though

[digital scroll]

I do bosses with no sound

[rare rover]

a baconator?

[bitter cove]

idk i do the bosses

[rare zodiac]

Yeah i just do it one, trim, and never see that flying piece of shit again

[open hare]

Wow, that's quite impressive. How do you get them to be quiet

[digital scroll]

Tell them I'm their mom

[open hare]

You said you do the bosses though

[digital scroll]

Yeah

[open hare]

[rare rover]

yo why are u doing the bosses

[midnight stirrup]

Have u succeeded before doing it?

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-gif-21708339

[midnight stirrup]

Or still testing

[digital scroll]

Marble does things to me

[rare rover]

[midnight stirrup]

I do it with sound on cause Marble moans very nicely

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/lemuen-arknights-gif-12031385960573454037

[rare zodiac]

That was nice?

[open hare]

Lemuen

[bitter cove]

freaky ahh

[noble tapir]

I just spam Rhodagn over and over again to muscle memory physical rotation

[gritty olive]

Dw, we just get to calculate potential dps during ult as well!

[open hare]

How do I carry Lemuen properly

[midnight stirrup]

Its a joke

[open hare]

Lemuen, where's my AWP

I need to counter the terrorists

Counter the strike

[noble tapir]

What if you're on the terrorist side?

[open hare]

Then I'll terrorist the counter

[noble tapir]

[digital scroll]

Time to start a Sarkaz revolution in Talos II

[open hare]

We are not eating people

[digital scroll]

Why not

[bitter cove]

not all sarkaz eating people

its just last rite

[rare zodiac]

Let LR nomnom in peace

[dawn patrol]

what the fuck

[civic wolf]

I managed to skip the meteor phase but I did not get trim

what

[digital scroll]

Just the vampire freak and the necro ones and a couple others I forget

[dawn patrol]

same person who had a reaction to me saying goodnights make me feel like a special girl btw

[civic wolf]

Aw hell naw

[open hare]

Guess what

[civic wolf]

i had a Lav Skill miss because Maggle did a backstep in a middle of Lav skill 😭

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[rare zodiac]

Ez just BA to dead

[open hare]

It's all saber

[rare zodiac]

Seiba face

[open hare]

Except for the caster and archet

It's all seiba

[digital scroll]

I wonder what the first Endfield collab will be with

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/artoria-pendragon-fate-grand-order-beyond-the-tale-fgo-saber-seiba-gif-12959211660683949712

[midnight stirrup]

Man

Game barely came out

[open hare]

Hypergryph

[midnight stirrup]

I dont wanna see a collab for another year

[digital scroll]

Arknights collab

[open hare]

We need a Hatsune Miku collab

[rare zodiac]

I just want more char and gear

[midnight stirrup]

No we dont

[digital scroll]

Just OG Skadi

[open hare]

Hatsune Miku with a M4A1

[twilit quail]

the game could use a lot more gear

[rare rover]

no no he has a point , let this man cook

[midnight stirrup]

No

[open hare]

Or Hatsune miku with a Hk416 would be sick in arknights

[midnight stirrup]

We got Hatsune Miku already

[rare zodiac]

It feel so confining

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/last-rite-takdes-endfield-takdes-endfield-endfield-meme-gif-10341933687894183164

[open hare]

When

No way I missed it right

[bitter cove]

i forgot what collab did limbus get last time but i think that one suit to get collab with endfield

[noble tapir]

More levels in pog cs don't lower the cd right?

[open hare]

Limbus got arknights collab

[rare zodiac]

M3 does

[midnight stirrup]

Next gear is probably 6-star vs lvl 100 enemies

Or 105

[open hare]

6 star lmao

Red gear

[noble tapir]

[rare rover]

silence

dont give them ideas

[rare zodiac]

Nah hope not, just more gear set

[digital scroll]

My farming

[bitter cove]

yea that one can collab with endfield

i think would be dope

[midnight stirrup]

Duh

[open hare]

Limbus collab with endfield is not what we need

[noble tapir]

Red Gear is year 2, guys, lets not get ahead of ourselves

[bitter cove]

i want my scwing scwing

[open hare]

Depression + Depression is too much

[bitter cove]

not limbus

[open hare]

Boohoo my Amiya died

[dawn patrol]

the thought of higher tier gear makes me want to kms

[digital scroll]

Can we call all current teams trash because Fangyi powercrept them already?

[bitter cove]

arknight collab with endfield

[open hare]

Fangyi about to do 5m damage

[digital scroll]

We theorycrafting the future

[open hare]

Amiya died chay

Wait

Or did she

[rare rover]

we already have that, we have surtr

[open hare]

We'll never know.

[rare zodiac]

Funny if she is a defender and do pepega dmg

[bitter cove]

i mean theres some text regarding green creature's kit

its in the game

[open hare]

Just give HG 3 million years to finish the story

[digital scroll]

Shhh... No talk

[open hare]

True damage trust

[midnight stirrup]

Datamined?

[vestal sinew]

how does the position/order of characters in a physical team affect it? also is the best physical team da pan,pog,lifeng and chen? and why isnt there a da pan section in the doc guide for physical section?

[open hare]

M3 true damage is back guys?

[noble tapir]

There is

[rare rover]

thats like every gacha

[digital scroll]

M3 looks so goofy in Endfield. Hope she becomes a bit more serious in combat

[gritty olive]

man vs self

[open hare]

Mon3str form

[vestal sinew]

where? and would you mind answering the other questions?

[gritty olive]

i want her to do mont3r form

[open hare]

What is this MVM tf2 ah situation

M3 should have her Mon3str form as a ult

This is good

[noble tapir]

It's at the bottom, right under the pog endmin team. I don't know about team order thing, and endmin vs. pan is complicated and there's no right answer imo

[open hare]

Can we have Lemuen in ENDFIELD

I want to be a f1 racer

[digital scroll]

We need to build handicap accessible places

[noble tapir]

I think pan is comfier because you can use pan ult to stack vuln and his crush is cs and therefore doesn't cost sp, but endmin probably has higher screenshot numbers

[open hare]

She can probably parkour with a wheelchair anyway

[dawn patrol]

endmin higher ceiling but tighter on sp

[bitter cove]

what race is laterano people
sankta?

[digital scroll]

Endmin has more potential

[dawn patrol]

feels a bit clunkier

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/lemuen-executor-arknights-6th-6th-anniversary-gif-12077620749233372548

[vestal sinew]

there is no explanation of pan in this section tho,like at the beggining there is an explanation for endmin,chen,lifeng and pog but nothing for da pan,like this,also it says team order matters here idk why.

[dawn patrol]

teekaz

[bitter cove]

teekaz is pre sarkaz and sankta no?
before humanified

[noble tapir]

Oh that part, I thought you just meant like rotation and stuff, idk why

[quiet grove]

gimme the doc to that pls

[gritty olive]

pin

[open hare]

Aice is suzuran mom lover I see

[vestal sinew]

im so confused then does team order not matter or does it matter,cause the doc says it does

[hexed frigate]

i thought this chat was for different kind of theories 🥀

[open hare]

No

We don't craft theories here, that's my theory

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-smiley-wave-skysailz-gif-12258814894311892312

Once I get wifi I'll be unstoppable

[twilit quail]

it's cause a toddler could understand his abilities and his autos arent good

talent 1 is + damage

talent 2 isnt very relevant for current optimisation

[vestal sinew]

still to the point where its not worth saying anything about him? chen is simple too and there is info about her

[twilit quail]

because when playing optimally

you need to control her(or at the very least use her basics a lot)

and it's important to know why

[vestal sinew]

i see i understand that but i still dont know why it was saying team order matters for it

thats whats confusing me the most

[twilit quail]

when more than 1 combo is triggered by the same game action

the order they appear in the queue is decided by the team order

this generally doesnt matter for most teams

but sometimes physical gets tripped up by it in edge cases

[vestal sinew]

oh so thats why,thanks also what does BS stand for in the rotations is it basic?

[twilit quail]

battle skill

[vestal sinew]

oh tyy

[open hare]

I must depart

[twilit quail]

ok yvonne updated hopefully I can put that aside for now

[vestal sinew]

if lifeng is p1 does the gear needed for mono physical change or just the rotation?

[rich linden]

chat how long does akekuri p3 last?

the atk buff "when ult is active"

[dry kindle]

Basically not real iirc

[rich linden]

lmao

if its atleast 2s its chill ig

[dry kindle]

wat

[midnight stirrup]

Basic = NA = Normal attack
BS = Battle skill
FS = Final strike
C = Combo

Usually

Ult is Q I think

[vestal sinew]

do you perhaps know how p1 lifeng affects the rotation?

[midnight stirrup]

Nope I dont play physical

LR main

[eternal ruin]

i never should've looked at this guy's profile 💀

[midnight stirrup]

Laev P5 pffft

[tranquil burrow]

I've seen much worse

People with maxed out 2 slot essences

[rare rover]

might be better than my laev

[tranquil burrow]

I took these screenshots early on but this is WAAAAY more common than you might think

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[midnight stirrup]

That guy is weak

Oh right and this one

[eternal ruin]

are people really out here dumping hundreds to thousands of stamina into bad essences?

i get that the system might not be super intuitive