theorycrafting

[daring dove]

P5 Ember is kinda bad still it's effectively a less than 5% ATK buff since it only has half uptime even if you use it every rotation.

[ripe parrot]

p5 ember by itself is kind of a hard ask

[summer flower]

Missing yvonne

[ripe parrot]

you have p5 ember??

[summer flower]

Explain so i can test it after yvonne banner

[summer flower]

Ohh

No

You need p5?

[outer ermine]

inb4 striker has p5 ember

[daring dove]

I don't even have P5 Ember

[summer flower]

Do whale shout

I dunno how they call for each other

[sudden lichen]

damn

Every single pot for yvonne is crazy

[summer flower]

Only one enemy

So most likely only for single enemy Boss fights

[ripe parrot]

wow 10sp she's pretty much a vanguard

[twilit quail]

well, not quite

[sudden lichen]

that's her specialty

[twilit quail]

after p2 she kind of

doesnt really gain anything

that is particularly meaningful

10sp refund is actually

just straight up detrimental

[summer flower]

10sp is less than 1/3rd that's all

[twilit quail]

it fucks with your maths on ult gain

[errant ridge]

guuuys can someone explain the rotation on laeva wulfgard akekuri ardelia team?

how do I generate stacks fast and consistently

[summer flower]

Okay, why would it mess up that?

[twilit quail]

damage increase is alright but you open up no new gear or anything

functionally those last 3 pots arent really doing anything

[ripe parrot]

i don't have yvonne so i don't really know her pots but 10sp is such a meme because it's on a bskill

[sudden lichen]

ngl that sounds delusional, but ok

[daring dove]

It's not just rotations its how you build your characters. You want pure ult gain on Akekuri + Wulfguard. You want ult gain gun on Wulfguard is sig is pretty worthless.

[errant ridge]

I can show my builds

[drifting berry]

Man I need another survey so I can keep complaining about yvonne

[drifting quest]

clannibal has places it can work (basic spam laev, high pots, if rossi is that goated)

[daring dove]

Ok course.

[sudden lichen]

also getting +20% crit damage isn't nothing, but maybe I don't know

[ripe parrot]

i am coping for clannibal to rise up in a world where we have good SP gain

[twilit quail]

again because the last 3 pots dont open up any new gear options

and are only very standard damage increases

this means they are below standard

as far as dupe power increases in this game go

like, yeah, theyre not really all that much

[sudden lichen]

[errant ridge]

laev on sig wulf on clannibal akekuri obj edge of lightness ardelia p1 signature

[civic wolf]

surge tower or beam tower for fillet spots?

[twilit quail]

like objectvely

these are very low value pots

[summer flower]

That's endmin

[glad niche]

The charactesr with good pots are absolute outliers tbf

[summer flower]

50 sp return

[glad niche]

so bad pots is certainly not a uniquely Yvonne issue

[sudden lichen]

that's on a reaction with his combo skill

makes no sense to compare

[twilit quail]

I mean let's look at 5 and 6*s

[summer flower]

Ehh

[twilit quail]

LR above average

p3 is very good

[drifting quest]

the goat lifeng

[twilit quail]

perlica is averageish

[summer flower]

Its on battle skill or ultimate(not sure ultimate part) on enemy that had combo skill

[twilit quail]

one good pot rest are whatever

[daring dove]

Yeah, you need to change Akekuri's & Wulfguards entire builds luckily you having started artifcing So it's all good.

[twilit quail]

chen is pretty average

[summer flower]

Pretty good comparision cause you need to use battle skill to get it

[sudden lichen]

endmin can't even use his combo without using another's combo

[twilit quail]

the only reason alesh can be good is in his pots

[daring dove]

Akekuri build.

[twilit quail]

xaihi is a bit below average actually

[summer flower]

Ehh

[twilit quail]

da pan becomes like 5x better with pot

I dunno

[drifting berry]

ultra wide monitor?

why so far

[summer flower]

You don't need to use battle skill to trigger endmin

[twilit quail]

yvonne dupes are quite low value even compared to other random chars

[daring dove]

Wulfguard build.

[twilit quail]

oh are they better than pog dupes hm

[errant ridge]

yeah I'm pretty much set with components can rebuild no problem

[sudden lichen]

is that a consensus or a you opinion?

[dire owl]

gilb's pots also seem relatively low value

[twilit quail]

it's mathematics

lol

[summer flower]

What even pog Has in dupes?

[summer flower]

Seen good pot today

[glad niche]

I mean outside of like Da Pan maxed, Wulfgard maxed, Avywenna QoL and basically all of Lifeng. Everyone else is mid at best, garbage at worst

[errant ridge]

clannibal is alright?

[twilit quail]

there are other really good dupes

[dire owl]

huh

[twilit quail]

gil 2 and 3

[summer flower]

The suscebiltiy increase

[twilit quail]

2 of lae's

eyja p1

[summer flower]

On ult

At least doubling scaling

[twilit quail]

avy p2

I dunno there's

[summer flower]

Or was it perk not pot?

[twilit quail]

more good ones than garbage ones

for sure

[drifting berry]

wait we got another survey?

[summer flower]

Heard so

[drifting berry]

let's go, gonna complain

[glad niche]

Who's Ejya in endfield

[ripe parrot]

obj is prob better with ult eff but it'll only really matter if you're reaching a breakpoint or not

[ripe parrot]

ardelia

[glad niche]

ok, yeh good p1

[dire owl]

hey look you can see all of wuling

[glad niche]

I really like Endmin's p2, basically a mini Thermite Cutter for just playing him correctly

[heady pine]

hopefully his p3 puts him decently above p5 da pan

although there will prob be a premium physical dps by then

[daring dove]

It's pretty meh honestly I have it P5 an even I think it's kinda bad. But you don't need to use ult gain gun if you wan't want to. (I'm not either).

[errant ridge]

builds I can fix but I'm really confused about the rotations to be honest

[summer flower]

Yea P2 is nice when you don't have 3 non DPS supports

[glad niche]

TangTang will need to do some heavy lifting to push out a Crusher imo

unless she crushes too

[ripe parrot]

tangtang 6* vuln spender (cope)

[heady pine]

tangtang could be vulnerabler + crusher

would prob make her way better than both

but just guesswork

[daring dove]

Akekuri Skill > Will trigger Wulfguard Battle skill > Doing a full attack chain on Laevatain triggers Ardelia's corrosion which triggers Laevetains combo skill which generates another hit stack.

[dapper mason]

@civic wolf you done yet trim rho.

[glad niche]

Or she's the Yvonne of phys

[twilit quail]

yvonne is an adjective

[daring dove]

That should get you 3 heat stacks straight away.

[errant ridge]

so should I use ardelia combo whenever it pops up ?

[elder skiff]

calling a character yvonne gotta be offensive

[dire owl]

you were right gilbs p2 increases susceptibility based on vuln stacks

[glad niche]

Even Ember mains slander Yvonne....

[daring dove]

Combo trigger yeah as it'll trigger Laevatains combo trigger which gives you another heat stack + nice damage.

[ripe parrot]

after her CS pops, if you need to apply arts susc you use her BS

[drifting berry]

Tangtang has a 95% of being physical and about 5% chance of being cryo crush enabler

[summer flower]

Wait lemme check ember pots

[heady pine]

tangtang 6* estella

[twilit quail]

I do wonder if they will just give every team enemy gathering

[elder skiff]

even yvonne have enemy gathering

[daring dove]

The reason you run a ton of ult gain on Wulfguard is his ulltimate can help get you that 4th important heat stack quickly.

[summer flower]

I take 20*2 attributes over 10sp refund

[ripe parrot]

my guess is yes but not as easily as gilb can

technically, phys has enemy gathering with pog and lifeng ult

did you guys know that enemies slightly bunch together with first hit of pog ult

[dire owl]

idk a cryo blizzard mage could do something similar and apply cryo stacks or somethin

[summer flower]

Yes

[daring dove]

Reason you run a lot of ult gain Akekuri is her ultimate helps generate SP, which will allow you bonus SP to do nice things like cast Ardelia's BS to give the enemy resistence shred.

[summer flower]

It was shown in his operator training

[ripe parrot]

the people who do op training is few and far in between

[summer flower]

There was task for 5 done

And with current amount of operators 5 ain't that smoll number

[ripe parrot]

you know what that's fair

[twilit quail]

the thing is gilb gather is like

terrible compared to enemy gathering in other games

[errant ridge]

if you could elaborate pls I'm new to the game... So I go akekuri BS>wulfgard BS> final strike Laevatain> Ardelia CS> wulfgard ult> laevatain BS ?

[twilit quail]

but it's still mega turbo here

cause everything else is even worse

[summer flower]

You need laev ult before laev BS

Cause you want ultimate version

And you want akekuri ultimate just before laev UBS

(link was in ultimate right?)

[daring dove]

Nope, sorry I should of been a bit more clear earlier, you start with Akekuri BS, which triggers Wulfguards Combo skill, while you are doing that you need to be triggering a full attack string on Laevatain to get off her final strike.

[twilit quail]

anyway mi fu waiting room

I just want to see what the fuck she does

[glad niche]

🤜

Mifu

[twilit quail]

save the electric society

[daring dove]

That triggers Ardelia's Combo skill, which in turn triggers Laevatains Combo skill, then depending on the encounter you do 1 of 2 different things... If ST boss you'd use Ardelia's Battle skill on the enemy with Corrioson applied to trigger her resistence shred to the enemy.

[outer ermine]

it was crit text bug again

[daring dove]

However in an AoE situation you'd instead just use Laevatain's BS to get your Heat stacks earlier.

[tight haven]

drip marketing is dead

hg killed it

[outer ermine]

back to crit farming ig

[daring dove]

As for the usage of Akekuri's & Wulfguards ults just use them on CD it isn't that deep. Although with Akekuri's you'd want to align with when using Laevatains burst if you have Thermite cutter. Hope that all made sense?

[drifting berry]

Man this survey is long lmao

[drifting quest]

both ake and wulf ult can be spammed on cd for brain off gameplay but if you want to be optimal there are cases to hold them

[drifting berry]

I started almost 20 mins ago and I haven't finish it

[errant ridge]

Yeah I'll test it out thank you so much!

[dapper mason]

this channel is good right. vote later for best channel award

[elder skiff]

our general 2 is the best channel fs

[dusk zenith]

why is using endmin’s crystals on 2nd hit of lifeng’s skill preferable over using it for endmin ult in the 4/3/4 rot?

[twilit quail]

uh

are you reading the wrong notes section

I think you are

[dusk zenith]

am i

[oblique galleon]

Why double xiranite aux

Just 1 redeemer ult gain seal instead, no?

[dusk zenith]

Try to start with a FS, then press Lifeng Skill as your next basic chain is starting. Lifeng's Combo Skill is placed before Endmin's in the graphics here to illustrate the more common scenario in practice, which is that you will be unable to get Lifeng's Combo into Endmin's Crystals damage increase due to Final Strike timings. If you can manage to do that, though, you generally should.

misremembered it as skill and not combo, but wouldnt buffing endmin ult be better over lf combo? what am i misinterpreting

[daring dove]

I kind of feel Gilberta was given a bit of a bad rap prior to her release. The more I use her the more I think she's right up there with Laevatain & Ardelia as a top tier.

[oblique galleon]

She's easily the best buffer + debuffer

People glaze prydwen too much

Only downside is you can't mash

[outer ermine]

100k to 115k ard crit big, 15k more

[drifting quest]

she still has issues

[oblique galleon]

You actually need to use 1 braincell

[drifting quest]

the issues can just be navigated if you have a brain

[daring dove]

Main thing I'm loving is how easy it is to trigger her weapon buff in battle. Especially when it ends up hitting 2-3 enemies it feels really strong. An nothing else triggers quite as easily.

[drifting berry]

Man they should have made Part 1 and Part 2 survey, this is taking so long

[edgy crater]

make sure u check it the boss too easy on rhodagon lmao

[supple epoch]

Idk why. Prydwen is very clear that their tc is for casual play. Their tierlist is justified by a compilation of in server self reported clears (eventually over 3 patches ). Someone posted a 7min Miyabi clear once lmaoo. And the TC channel in prydwen isn’t even associated with their website tc

They take 0 input in server despite any evidence. No matter how significant

I’d rate them pretty low comparatively to other tc communities.

[dapper mason]

i pulled gilb today, gilb without sign is good enough to replace ardel in lae team ?

[heady pine]

gilb with sig usually doesnt replace ardelia in laev team

[supple epoch]

For aoe 100% prefer her. But personally I’ve found her healing lacking ( non existent in solo fights ). So if you don’t play well, you’ll apologise to ardelia 🤣

[dapper mason]

oh is it bcs 5 sec ast sus ?

[daring dove]

I find her a better replacement for Wulfguard in general gameplay & AoE content. I only use Wulfguard in ST encouters not Ardelia is too much comfort to give up for me. That an she can provide the team with meaningful buffs someting Wulfguard cannot.

[supple epoch]

Someone made an ardelia apology form on Reddit 🤣

[heady pine]

if u play it suboptimally, gilbert takes stacks away from laev

[dapper mason]

okay noted

[heady pine]

if you want to play around gilberta interrupting the heat stacks u can

[frail plinth]

Personally I just play lae, ake, gil and ardelia. Ye, I have less heat inflictions for lae but it is super fun.

[heady pine]

but ardela is just simple

[outer ermine]

NOOO

[daring dove]

They're not needed in AoE content anyway. That's why Wulfguard who provides no meaningful buffs is the replacement for everything but ST.

[outer ermine]

u are absolutely fucking w me

[zinc maple]

only in multiple enemies scenario, she perform worse on single target imo

[twilit quail]

LF combo will never consume because it doesnt apply a physical status(also these are two separate statements that I should have formatted better)

if you can get it into crystals it's just free dmg

[dapper mason]

im comfortable with ardel rn. its just i see a lot people saying gilb buff better than ardel. i thought its on lae team

[heady pine]

think they mean for yvonne/avywenna teams

[zinc maple]

u gonna need some heat infliction though

ig akekuri is enough if you can hit all the enemies with her skill

[urban plaza]

Gilb is just super comfy for overworld/AOE stuff
You can do gilb BS -> wulf combo -> lae+gilb combo and kill every trash mob of a wave with 0 thought or running after them

[zinc maple]

gilb buff better but the uptime is really low compared with ardelia

so ardelia is kinda better when you fight bosses

[urban plaza]

Gilb is for burst or AOE content

[outer ermine]

i got everything i want but i fucking swapped out hotworks ard to try more int on xaihi

can i go back in time bruh

[zinc maple]

i usually do gilb skill -> ake skill -> lae attack 5 -> ake skill and its already enough to decimate my enemies

[zinc maple]

wow 1 mil crit

[dire owl]

how upgraded are your supporting units/weapons?

[dapper mason]

i thought so too. nvm i will just stick to ardel

[summer flower]

i heard info sundered prince doesnt increase finisher damage on enemy

[outer ermine]

30k more on combo vs 40k on crit w ard i threw that so hard

[summer flower]

but it was from team build so probably BS, can i get info from here?

[edgy crater]

u wanna make ardel dps lol?

[outer ermine]

it was suppsoedly that way yeah

[zinc maple]

yea gilb mostly useful when you use nuke team like last rite team or electric team

or to gather enemies

[outer ermine]

i just wanted to try more int for xaihi for a bit but i got the run

the timing

[dire owl]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[outer ermine]

mb, all 90 aside from perlica

[dire owl]

how bout pots on weps?

[outer ermine]

needing ard to do 115k dmg on skill should tell u what monstrosity this needs

[zinc maple]

full damage build is crazy

[frail plinth]

depends on your resources mostly. Personally I have them lvl 80 and their weapons as well. But some ppl uses those units literally just as amp units and nothing else so they have them at lvl 60 or 70

[dire owl]

im asking because my LR is maxed with a p4 Khrav, and my damage is off of theirs by a decent bit. trying to figure out the differences or if its a skill issue lol

[outer ermine]

its 1.18m if im running hotworks ard

[daring dove]

You really don't in AoE content. Using her ult is basically free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXt1bYIJIUU

[frail plinth]

could be gear, roation, weapons, skills

[dire owl]

right thats why im asking lol

[dusk zenith]

Oh i see now, but then pog would end up consuming the crystals with his skill since he applies breach no? is buffing lifeng’s second hit and pog skill around the same team dmg increase as buffing endmin ult?

[summer flower]

Is it accurate?

[twilit quail]

look at the sequencing here

endmin's combo will trigger before pog's and be first in the queue

pog's BS 2nd hit which actually applies the breach

connects after lifeng ult's 2nd hit

so now you have endmin and pog combo in the queue

this way pog combo > ult will also get the crystals dmg increase(even if the dmg is basically nothing)

[outer ermine]

ill continue later

[twilit quail]

then you endmin ult which actually eats the crystals

[outer ermine]

its p5 det, khra, starry, stanza

[ripe parrot]

so close

[twilit quail]

freesia for + crit rate

[dire owl]

ok yeah thats where i figured the difference was lol, i have p5 stanza and p4 khrav but the others are like p2 p3, ty!

[edgy crater]

why freesia

[dusk zenith]

ah i get it now. appreciate the clarification

[twilit quail]

if it feels tight

m3 endmin combo

[zinc maple]

oo interesting so ardelia combo is already enough to get 4 heat infliction

[twilit quail]

for +1s crystal duration

you should do it first on them anyway

also make sure you dont pog ult too early and eat the 3rd combo hit

denying yourself sp

[outer ermine]

i was edging my food buffs too, shit was abt to expire in 5s

[dusk zenith]

worth m3ing endmin ult as well? and anything worth for lifeng and chen?

[drifting quest]

can also just m1 and test

for the .5

[edgy crater]

btw, u m3 xaihi bp?

[outer ermine]

m6

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

ult and skill, lv9 ba too just cuz

im desperate

[drifting berry]

Should I try to get a 3/3 Essence for Gilberta signature or should I settle with a 2/3 Ult/Pursuit?

[edgy crater]

yeah i thougt u only need to m3 her ulti, until someone told me her bp got +2% on m3

[outer ermine]

big upgrade fr

[drifting berry]

Skill goes from 9% to 15% at m3 no?

[twilit quail]

BS for lifeng, other skills for him can wait

[drifting berry]

lvl 9 is like 12% and M3 15%

[twilit quail]

chen is annoying cause it's like all 3 abilities xd

[edgy crater]

lvl 9 13%

[twilit quail]

and basics too really

endmin ult is not bad but I wouldnt do it before getting important abilities on others

[drifting berry]

I mean, if you are investing M6 Xaihi getting a 3/3 essence for Gilberta doesn't sound that bad

[craggy pond]

@twilit quail was trying to calc something myself, does the additional ult energy gain from surtr's combo skill replace the initial 10? Because i thought it was added to it

[dusk zenith]

works for me since i wanted to crown all of chen’s abilities anyway, it’s just not an upgrade id want to prioritize over everyone else yet
ill get pog bs and ult to m1 and test my rot from there

[drifting berry]

Chen deserves the M9

[ripe parrot]

rhod is such a punching bag. I tried doing a no WASD and no camera movement run and it was 99% the same fight

[ripe parrot]

M12 or you're a coward

[outer ermine]

oh yea camera movement, i literally cant move my screen cuz of that arrow jittering in the middle when i alt tab

[drifting berry]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-chen-arknights-chen-nuh-uh-arknights-gif-2950714328036542260

[twilit quail]

it is, it's annoying I know

[weak meteor]

are you loaning materials where are you getting them from

this took my from release till now and its not even m12

[summer flower]

Not whaling/using stamina pots enough

[ripe parrot]

the events gave a ton

[summer flower]

But at this point i think F2p is definetly capable of m12

[ripe parrot]

yeah F2P can since my chen account is all F2P

that account is also like 13 days-ish old?

also I was issued a challenge to do no hit 3 worms stage in umbral

i think I can do it but like

it's so boring

[weak meteor]

i did spend a lot on essenses

[potent hornet]

is there currently a decent credit farm that doesn't require sanity

[edgy crater]

which credit?

[potent hornet]

tcredits

basic money

[rustic knoll]

is there a way i can make my friend take my depot job instead of hoping a rando doesnt get it?

[outer ermine]

11.33 if that killed i dont see more space for improvement aside from later dodge

combo slow rule doesnt matter much here too hmm

[dapper mason]

oh i just realized you are ratoonese too

[ripe parrot]

no not really

[potent hornet]

bleh

[ripe parrot]

time to do all the side quests

and if you did that time to cry

[potent hornet]

guess i'm farming mats for orbs

i have a small amount of side quests left

i might have overleveled some things that didn't require it

[outer ermine]

🐀 fellow rat

[dull oriole]

There’s a decent amount in v4 stock exchange if you haven’t bought it out yet

After that just sanity/events 🥀

[drifting quest]

bit the bullet

p2 gilb

surely the extra 9 suscept is worth it

[potent hornet]

hate it when i find a game i like but the game is basically forcing me to not play by putting all these walls everywhere. Like why limit basic credits. make them drop off mobs, doesn't need to be a ton, just something.

[quaint matrix]

omg i want that

CHEN

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-flabbergasted-gif-1115242770197379648

[sly nymph]

real the credit bottleneck is so ass

[ripe parrot]

it sucks that this game is a gacha because i'd rather it just be a good game

[warm galleon]

Just think of them as DLC operators

[weak meteor]

tbf they were going the right direction with making crit more of a kit thing

[tight haven]

anyone buying the $800 fangyi dlc

[ripe parrot]

I meant moreso that they inflate player retention with things like FOMO, sanity timegating, and random things like t-creds being something you gain little by little

which is widespread across every gacha game ever

[drifting quest]

the humble limbus company:

[neat snow]

I wish a 5 pot was only 800

[tight haven]

hey it'll be $800 if you save up starting now

[fading fog]

how noticable is p0 vs p1 gilberta?

[tight haven]

not worth it

[sullen silo]

on single target none

[tight haven]

p2 is her most valuable pot imo

followed by p3

[drifting quest]

dont say that

[tight haven]

p4 and p5 dont seem to open up interesting gearing or team options at all

[drifting quest]

i just grabbed p2

i dont want to go for p3 too

[tight haven]

her p3 is just the Potential Potential™

[sullen silo]

might as well it's just 1 pull away

[neat snow]

Gilb was my cheapest p5 so far because I pulled her 4 times on Laev banner

[sullen silo]

theoritically

[tight haven]

12% ult eff is just rly strong

doesnt have many applications rn

[drifting quest]

are you buying me the p3 when 1 pull does not get her

smh

[tight haven]

pull once and find out

👍

[drifting quest]

say less

HOLY SHIT

NO WAY

[tight haven]

xaihi

LOL

dude you got a supporter

[drifting quest]

supporter good for electric and fire teams who uses stanza of memorials over their sig

[sullen silo]

i was expecting catcher, but antal is cool

[drifting quest]

sounds like i got the right one

[hollow pine]

deym 9*

[summer flower]

THE REAR VIEW XDDD

body type

i cant

[tight haven]

i wish p1 affected gilbs ult too

the range on it isnt bad but it would be nice if it had +20% radius

[tacit bloom]

anyone know how much dmg increase c5 laevatain is vs c0?

[drifting quest]

~10-30% on average

[tight haven]

about 130% team (assuming wulf ake/antal arde)

140% solo

[drifting quest]

yeah

[tight haven]

p4 is her only really nutty pot imho

p5 is obviously really good but eh

if youre getting p4 you're not stopping there lol

but p4 is when you can swap out xiranite gloves for hot work gloves on the ult spam gear set (2x redeemer seals, tide fall armor) which is a big big damage boost

[drifting quest]

'whoops i dropped my super cool 5 laevateins in 1 10 pull screenshot, f2p btw haha i didnt even want to pull her im saving all my pulls'

[tight haven]

it should be noted that the worthiness of p4's real damage increase is highly correlated to how many copies of her sig you have as well since ult spam is so viable with it

[heady shale]

I kinda want to start working into making damage-boosting food in Eco-Farms now for Trimmed Boss Medals.
Are the effects and stacking behavior documented somewhere? Like ATK vs. Damage Dealt and stuff..

[tacit bloom]

i got lucky cause i got a copy of her that made her c4 then that was the last 10 roll for guaranteed copy to get 1 more copy lmaop

[drifting quest]

generally speaking atk > dmg%

some exceptions can exist

[heady shale]

Noted. One Food at a time?

[tight haven]

should be noted that atk% is only so desirable because the game oversaturates heavily on dmg%

[drifting quest]

only one consumable can be used at a time per unit

[heady shale]

oh, that makes things easier I guess.

[drifting quest]

(but also because stat atk% is multiplicative)

[heady shale]

Jakub's Legacy looks promising rn unless I miss smh

[drifting quest]

jakubs and stew meeting

which is better depends on the unit

stew meeting?

[tight haven]

ginseng stew

[drifting quest]

ginseng meat stew

[tight haven]

meeting is the ult food

[drifting quest]

stew meeting brainrotting me

for real

[heady shale]

yeah I was gonna ask, the other is instant Ult

np

[drifting quest]

i just farm ginseng in wuling and citromes in v4

the rest is overworld grind haha fun

[heady shale]

So Chars that build on Crit Rate/Damage somewhat probably want Ginseng huh

[drifting quest]

the crit is ignored

[heady shale]

oh

[drifting quest]

its just the attack

[heady shale]

so the 180 ATK

is that pre ATK multi from Attributes?

[drifting quest]

it recieves bonus from your stat attack % yes

[heady shale]

hmm

[drifting quest]

hence why which is better is per unit

i could probably set up a simple calculator for it to be honest

there's only so many external attack buffs to consider

[heady shale]

So I basically wanna check whenever 180 * Attribute Multi or Total * 1,27 is better huh

[drifting quest]

the formula is
Attack Power = [(Operator Base Attack + Weapon Base Attack)(1 + Percentage Bonus (ATK%)) + Fixed Value Bonus] * (1 + Stat Bonus)

jakubs goes in the percentage bonus

[heady shale]

opens OnlyOffice

[drifting quest]

ginseng goes in the fixed value bonus

yeah its a case of just stick it in excel and see which comes out bigger

[heady shale]

Thanks everyone

using Food will use it on currently active OP or ask which one?

[drifting quest]

it lets you pick who to put it on

[heady shale]

convenient

[drifting quest]

each unit can have one separate buff

[heady shale]

yeah

[drifting quest]

but means x4 the cost if you want to use the same on every unit

[heady shale]

good news I piled up on the foods just not used them yet

kept Eco-Farm busy and found out about that Super-Fertilizer earlier

[drifting quest]

Bottleneck is slug meat and fillets anyway so I never bothered with fertilizer

[craggy pond]

i was wondering why wulfgard needs 241% charge for p1 surtr, then i realized the sp return doesn't count for ult gain

ts is so dumb

[amber vapor]

Wait does fertilizer increase yield or just reduces growth time?

Never cared to test

[solar vale]

Should I wait till I get Stanza to start leveling perlica weapon? Or will Monaihe do well enough? (last rite)

[drifting quest]

stanza, doesnt need levelling anyway

[heady shale]

oh, what goes into Stat Bonus

[drifting quest]

thats your attack% from main and secondary attack

0.5% per main stat point
0.2% per secondary stat point

[heady shale]

ah, thats processed that late

hmm

[drifting quest]

thats why ginseng is so good

but it can be outscaled

[heady shale]

hmm

Yeah I trnya puzzle the damage formula together atm

[outer ermine]

poop is for growth time, premium is yield iirc

[robust vault]

should I be using arclight or akekuri on my avywenna / perlica / gilberta team?

[heady shale]

Yes, Premium doubles yield and is made by mixing Poop with Liquid Xiranite in Forge of the Sky

[drifting quest]

akekuri for speedrunning
arclight for general content

[drifting quest]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

[amber vapor]

Way too much effort for something that's not automated

[solar vale]

Yeah, But i don't have any other real weapons I want to level rn tho. Xahi's Deto unit is 80, Ardelia's dreams is 80, I don't have LR sig, Pog's Thermite cutter is 80, I dont care enough to level (endmin) sundering or (chen) ascendent more then they already are, and I feel like theres better for Lifeung then Valiant

[heady shale]

aye. I plan of some Switches but yeah

[drifting quest]

You will gain more from levelling dps weapons than the support weapons you have levelled

The only current spear better than Valiant for Lifeng is Mountain Bearer which is only currently via the gacha

[robust vault]

will akekuri perform fine in general content as well? cause ideally i want to speedrun but im already building a lot of characters and wanted to start hyper investing in electric

ok good ty

[solar vale]

Yeah, but like. . . I dont have either endmin or LR sigs, so I don't want to invest into them, since they're the two main DPS that I have for my 2 teams

and im gonna want to get their actual weapons before I invest

[drifting quest]

Might as well hold the xp then

like do it if you want, it'll just do nothing of value

[solar vale]

ok then

guess I wait

Also, any reccomended operator leveling?

like, DPS first, but then which support next?

Any specific skills to more heavily index into

[drifting quest]

most supports (exc. Xaihi) can be parked at 60

[tight haven]

does feel nice to have non-boss fights that last long enough for you to Do Things

[west moon]

Just get the e4

[drifting quest]

which skills to invest in depends on which unit you are asking for

[tight haven]

though this is basically designed as a boss fight complete with small invuln windows

[midnight stirrup]

Akekuri is extremely easy and cheap to build

So yeah

Only level ult and ur good

[robust vault]

does anyone have a link to an afk farm setup for xp mats? i saw a tweet about it but my bookmark didnt save

[midnight stirrup]

I dont think you can

[robust vault]

they were getting lvl0-60 mats from afk farming

[midnight stirrup]

Only way to get exp non sanity is chests or daijin

[robust vault]

or maybe the xp directly?

😩

[midnight stirrup]

Directly idk

[drifting quest]

am i missing anything obvious

[midnight stirrup]

Seems like cope but idk

[robust vault]

they showed it in the tweet but its gone now and i think it was in japanese so i cant search it lol

[drifting quest]

shouldnt be but brain might be dead

[heady shale]

kk think I got it., ty

[midnight stirrup]

Well if its actually reliable

Itll show up sooner or later

As a strat

Just gotta be patient

[hollow pine]

she's universal in almost every team so yeah she's worth the investment and it's cheap

[hollow pine]

park supports 60/80 or you can lvl 90/1/1/1 can still finish everything

[robust vault]

i keep seeing posts about afk farming though what is that for? just being able to multitask then claim rewards or is it enemy drops?

[drifting quest]

drops usually

e.g. slug meat from the hub alluvium

[heady shale]

Alluvium AFK Farming.
Turrets to kill stuff + block off the Operators. Apparently in Wuling its even easier with Pipes.

Can use that for Ticket Farming but there is a soft cap for Tickets from Enemy Drops, some drops etc

[robust vault]

ooh need tickets too

guess ill have to set some of those up

[drifting quest]

the tickets gained are

nothing

its like 42 per enemy

like 10k tickets a day ma

x

[heady shale]

you had need to be very desperate for tickers to do that, ye

but ya know, people do that cuz Sanity-capped and bored or so

I can't blame them :D

But the Softcap also implies it was gonna be predicted that this would happen

[drifting quest]

naturally

[tacit torrent]

This is kinda late, but it's the same on both sides. Left side is just sorted by Secondary while Right side is sorted by Ability. It's for ease of reading/searching, especially since this is an image and you can't ctrl+f to find something specific.

[rustic knoll]

yuh dw i got it now

[fading fog]

I think I've just spent like an hour filling out the survey

[stiff eagle]

while i know ember isisnt optimal in any sense, what would be the best gear for her? i currently dont have sundered prince, so for now its exemplar with either 3pc swordmaster or 3pc aethertech

[midnight stirrup]

Kinda mid damage but im not used to phone yet

@drifting quest ive been using ults after LR starts casting. Should I be casting them before combo? Like does combo even benefit if I cast ults mid cast

You can fast forward to past cutscene before is just to get to the cutscene

[drifting quest]

i dont know but what's the harm in precasting

[midnight stirrup]

Theres none, its just a habit ive built casting the ults after she starts casting combo

[drifting quest]

test it once

[midnight stirrup]

Alright

[drifting quest]

if the damage is higher time to break the habit

if its the same then it doesnt matter

id expect it only checks when damage is dealt and you are fine

[ebon thicket]

Best Pogra gear set? In general, mainly used as a breach support and/or sp battery, I’m not using a physical team rn but am anticipating an upcoming physical dps (no leaks, but given we have fire and ice dps and nature support, next banners make sense to be physical + electric, and one of them gotta be a dps so imma hope for physical)

[outer ermine]

2 mins vid when its lr wtf

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest It makes a difference

[midnight stirrup]

Im not max etchings yet not artificing

Nor was food used

Nor are my supports built like yours

[drifting quest]

gg

[midnight stirrup]

Holy shit im having dejavu

What the fuck

I wonder if Rhodagan has resistances

Actually nvm I did that 400k on marble during stagger

Lemme actually test marble

[west moon]

WHAT 😭

[daring dove]

Funny enough while P5'ing both Laevatain & Gilberta, I never pulled any of the other limited characters early once.

Not that I'm complaining I don't really want Yvonne.

[midnight stirrup]

It means the back. The part youre looking at while playing

Get your head out of the gutter

[west moon]

I know what is rear, I drive a car

[outer ermine]

how close b4 dodging?
yes

[west moon]

It's just a weird question to ask

[midnight stirrup]

Huh

[midnight stirrup]

Get your head out of the gutter

Bro playing this game on mobile is so pain

Idk how some of yall do it

[daring dove]

Did you finally get LR essence?

[outer ermine]

if u played a lot of mobile moba its ez af

[west moon]

Bruh, I wonder if I selected too much

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah today

[midnight stirrup]

Fair enough

Hifumi can u test what ur damage is vs Rhodagan without food with Akekuri instead of Ardelia on Thermite?

Perlica on Stanza, Xaihi on Det

[outer ermine]

full stack into ult?

[peak void]

good morning my 2nd fav chat

[outer ermine]

2mins, my buffs still on

[errant moon]

What is the damage formula in Arknights Endfield and how do ATK%, DMG%, and stats affect it?

[drifting quest]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

[hasty jackal]

how was 4 vuln reached here to trigger the breach?

[drifting quest]

dapan p5

[peak void]

pan do 2

[hasty jackal]

ah i see

[peak void]

wtf its john arknights

[hasty jackal]

arknight bro

[summer flower]

i wanna swap endmin and chen gear

but i dunno to which

(swapping out of swordmancer)

[drifting quest]

bonekrusha i guess

if you insist

[summer flower]

if this is one that has fitting stats it might go to chen maybe? but i'm sure bonekrusha wasnt correct for endmin somehow

something was not okay with it

[peak void]

i just run swordmancer on both ngl

not sure if its the best but it works “fine”

[drifting quest]

'best' based on current understanding

[summer flower]

it feels too close to crit gear set to judge

[drifting quest]

the baseline at least

[summer flower]

i'm considering purple + slab

[peak void]

slab again 🥀

[outer ermine]

just realized lr cant use stew

[dry kindle]

I keep forgetting this game is 6am not pm reset

[summer flower]

4.9k attack endmins starting with old, 333% on attribute, to 6.4k with 371% from attribute

[dry kindle]

Permanent account damage

[summer flower]

GUYS

at least for not artificed setup

purple + gold is highest attack

[midnight stirrup]

Ya 4 stacks

[summer flower]

1k+ attack difference

[dry kindle]

That doesn't make it a good idea 🗿

[summer flower]

dude, if i trimm after this change

[midnight stirrup]

You know you can trim without doing all that extra stuff right

[summer flower]

i dont wanna spent everything on endming getting masteries

[midnight stirrup]

I doubt you need it

Arent there trims of solo chars

[peak void]

yea there solo catcher trim

[midnight stirrup]

Glaring skill issue then

[peak void]

I pulled that outta my ass btw

theres solo umbral but idk abt trim

[summer flower]

and how much masteries catcher did had?

[midnight stirrup]

Even if not catcher

I think theres Chen and Da Pan solos

[peak void]

Read further

[summer flower]

AND HOW BUILT THEY WERE?

[drifting quest]

Not hugely

[midnight stirrup]

I mean it doesnt rly matter Rell

Its 1 char

You have 4

Git gud

[peak void]

^

[drifting quest]

I think there's a sl9 4/4/3 chen solo

[summer flower]

Get out of how i wanna play okay?

[peak void]

The ceiling is high but unnecessary to reach

[fiery spruce]

actually before i upgrade what is pog's bis gear

if he is the main on field dps tho

[midnight stirrup]

Its not even about how you wanna play

[drifting quest]

On field dps pog is

[midnight stirrup]

Im just saying if u cant beat trim thats on you

[drifting quest]

Not something tc'd

[midnight stirrup]

Theres solo trim clears

[summer flower]

i'm not trying to get trimmed right now

i'm using trimmed to compare time

[midnight stirrup]

?

[peak void]

you’re in theorycrafting, if u js want ppl to echo u go to general or smth

[drifting quest]

You are on your own if you want to do dps pog

[summer flower]

like X/120

[ripe parrot]

i want to die i spent 4 hours trying to no hit umbral-2

[peak void]

exactly this lol

[outer ermine]

im doing too much dmg to this mf i need more stagger wait a bit

[peak void]

why even bring up trim when youre “not tryna trim”

[ripe parrot]

it is so mindnumbingly boring

[fiery spruce]

I cant decide who to main field with this team I've been using all of them and i dont care for panda

[drifting quest]

All 4, maybe not so much dapan, are fielded in some rotations

[summer flower]

cause it would mean purple slab is higher damage

[drifting quest]

You can field pog without him being a dps

Check out the pins

Give it and the timeline a read

[peak void]

His anims suck tho

thats the catch

[drifting quest]

Pogs?

[peak void]

His skill is long

[drifting quest]

I really like them lmao

[peak void]

for me at least

well okay it looks cool but its long

[drifting quest]

Visually

[fiery spruce]

think I will do chen then

[drifting quest]

Ideally you'd be quickswapping

[west moon]

To get a character from 60lvl to 80lvl, you need 47 of orange carriers

I've calculated that on average, your MFG cabin should work for 24 days to level up ONE character from level 60 to 80

ts is so useless 💔

[fiery spruce]

you have an example on a boss like a vid, been using my lev team mainly so haven't been doing swapping much

[peak void]

good thing we have other sources like credit shop

and idk but the events gave me a lot of the 60-90 stuff

i actually need 1-60 now

[drifting quest]

Not on hand, again give pinned doc a read, explains it all in depth

[west moon]

Credit shop material gain is even more miserable than dijiang in fact

[peak void]

I wont disagree

but it is another source 🤷

I just cashed in a whole 1k today

[west moon]

I've spent 1,2k creds on 80 arsenal tokens

That's like

0.04 of a weapon pull

[midnight stirrup]

I mean credit shop can be decent

If u pay like 20 credits for 25 oreberyl

But uh

Rarely happens

[summer flower]

i once spent 400 on rolling

bought oberyl twice and arsenal once or twice

within same day

also grabbed somethings else

[fiery spruce]

am i just following the time line in battle with the skill and ult order? is that why you can swap around on the team cause im a bit confused there

[quaint matrix]

1 character banner is 15 days?

[west moon]

I wonder why there's 2 different weekly refresh dates

Just why

[west moon]

16

But it's subject to change, 3 characters per patch for gachas is too much

Too much strain on developing teams, pull currency and whales' wallets

[quaint matrix]

so 1.1. is 26 days away?

omg

this is sooo long

[drifting quest]

Whenever a character is during a skill or ult anim you want to be fielding someone else to basic attack

[west moon]

Sometimes enemies like to interrupt your crewmate skill

And mess up the rotation

[drifting quest]

Not an issue ive personally experienced often

[west moon]

ts is infuriating

often enough to notice how your skill just disappears

[midnight stirrup]

While true

Fuck that

[drifting quest]

Learn the micro

[wild meteor]

Wow I wish I was that lucky

[midnight stirrup]

I aint doing allat until content requires me to minmax like that

[drifting quest]

If I can do it (I have a disability in my hands) you can too

[midnight stirrup]

Why sweat when lazy is more efficient

[west moon]

Just press Q before pressing buttons

[midnight stirrup]

[outer ermine]

ight heres ur shiba inu, im going back to crit farming

[drifting quest]

I use f keys

[midnight stirrup]

Thank u daddy

[outer ermine]

i havent lr lead in a while damn

[midnight stirrup]

Hifumi

[west moon]

In order to press F1-4 keys I need to let go of movement keys and push my hand forward

[midnight stirrup]

You know you dont have to use Akekuri ult before ult right

[west moon]

Which is very impractical

[midnight stirrup]

Link doesnt get consumed by combo

[outer ermine]

i pressed combo b4 everything else so

[midnight stirrup]

Oh right

About that

I tested it earlier

Use ults before combo, it makes a difference

Pretty big one too

I did more damage ulting before casting combo then during casting combo

But damn why yo damage so high

U got R5 Thermite?

[outer ermine]

maybe

[midnight stirrup]

Okay yea adds up then

Shouldnt be too far off but still noticeable gap

Try casting ur ult before combo next time

Should see higher numbers

[amber vapor]

Literally my philosophy to life

[outer ermine]

whos ult

[warm galleon]

I had a skill issue when I left a wep at lv 1, I fed it on no dupe wep

[midnight stirrup]

Perlica, Xaihi and Akekuri before triggering combo, rather than during casting combo

[outer ermine]

unpaused and saw xaihi got bodied

[west moon]

I have skill issue with gassy agony

I don't have sustain to survive and not enough dps to kill everything under 2 minutes

[midnight stirrup]

Based

We love someone that can acknowledge its skill issue rather than the game

Youll get there

[amber vapor]

What's your team comp

[west moon]

I do not in fact consider gas challenge to be my skill issue

[midnight stirrup]

Not Xaihi

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/stevewilkos-thinking-hard-steve-wilkos-the-show-5EVBzx3JXxTFb6ktSO

[summer flower]

you wondering why?

i had ardelia and ember

[midnight stirrup]

What even is gassy agony

stage 3 or 2

[summer flower]

0 healing

[west moon]

Damaging myst

[drifting berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[summer flower]

the new thingy, withd dmg overtime

[west moon]

I completed stage 2 and 3 on pure skill

[midnight stirrup]

huh

what damaging mist

is this stage 1

[summer flower]

ehhh

[midnight stirrup]

just say the stage its in

[summer flower]

i have not seen anyone but you use number

[amber vapor]

Swap out antal for Ardelia or another healer

[west moon]

Tried, ardelia healing can't keep up with gassy damage

[summer flower]

like man, this is gas/mist

[midnight stirrup]

brother

its 3 stages

[summer flower]

other one is immobile

[midnight stirrup]

which stage does it appear in

.....

[summer flower]

and last one is like rock, or duo

[amber vapor]

It does. You just need to pop ult whenever it's up since healing is shared.

If you're running ult and treatment on Ardelia you can out heal the DMG

[summer flower]

i had to spam ardelia skill

[amber vapor]

Especially with an Avy team

[summer flower]

while having treatment set on her

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest which stage of the 3 has damaging mist

in agony

[drifting quest]

1st

[midnight stirrup]

thank u

see guys

was that so hard

[amber vapor]

First stage, the one that says mist

[summer flower]

.....

[drifting berry]

Haven't touch the event

[midnight stirrup]

mfs giving me a whole roundabout answer for what

lmfao

[drifting quest]

1st is mist
2nd is stationary enemies
3rd is x2 elites

[summer flower]

man, you giving non descriptive name

[midnight stirrup]

brother

theres 3 agony stages

i asked which stage the mist appears in

[summer flower]

YES

[midnight stirrup]

how is that complicated to u

get a grip

[midnight stirrup]

didnt even notice any mist icl thats why i was confused about which stage it was in

[summer flower]

and i have not seen anybody using numbers for talking about it

[midnight stirrup]

who tf cares its not a hard question

[drifting quest]

Its not particularly potent so easy to miss

[summer flower]

it was in descrition you see before entering

[midnight stirrup]

oh my days

https://giphy.com/gifs/mystical-mythical-redhatgifs-dCwNmR9BBOzKpiBQOs

[amber vapor]

Anyways @west moon just run Ardelia with a treatment set

[midnight stirrup]

wtf is this chat

[midnight stirrup]

i see

[west moon]

Lynx?

[drifting quest]

Average day in tc

[midnight stirrup]

im losing braincells

istg

[summer flower]

@west moon if you need you can spam ardelia skill for more healing

[drifting berry]

guys is hsr good now?

[summer flower]

yes

[midnight stirrup]

i mean

[amber vapor]

This is not the place to ask

[midnight stirrup]

yet to see

youll get 100 tickets if ur lucky tho

[drifting berry]

I mean, if I as on hsr discord they gonna say yes or something

[midnight stirrup]

its fine

[amber vapor]

Yea iirc

[west moon]

any gacha is good if you have infinite money tbh

[midnight stirrup]

id argue having money ruins ur gacha experience

[amber vapor]

You can run the seal that gives ult charge as well

[midnight stirrup]

i enjoyed the game more as f2p

[drifting berry]

idk gonna log in, pull for sparkle 2 and probably quit

[midnight stirrup]

sparkle isnt on banner rn

second phase

[drifting quest]

I reinstalled, pulled evernight, uninstalled

[drifting berry]

aaa

[drifting quest]

Lmao

[midnight stirrup]

evernight the goat

got her e2s1

[drifting quest]

I would have grabbed sparxie if she was phase 1

[quaint matrix]

man, i wish i had that much but wulling

[west moon]

About rear view, can we talk about how bulky laevatein halo looks like?

[midnight stirrup]

you know you can convert bucks at a 2:1 rate right to wuling

[west moon]

Blocks half of the model

[quaint matrix]

what?

[midnight stirrup]

fr

[west moon]

Endposting

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif?width=160&height=160

[quaint matrix]

you'r trolling me

[midnight stirrup]

bro didnt read the tutorial

[west moon]

You can't, in fact, convert bills

[midnight stirrup]

oh my days

[quaint matrix]

i only send some shit into wulling through my ship

and do wulling deliveries

[quaint matrix]

also the 40 limit of gear tunning mats is ass

[west moon]

It's not like artifice is mandatory anyway

You strictly need it for charge sets

[tired plinth]

How big is the difference between Clannibal and Rational Farewell for main DPS Wulfgard?

[west moon]

It's really dumb that you can't even use buff food in agony. They really added it just because genshin has food too

And genshin has food because zelda has it too🤦🏻‍♂️

[outer ermine]

looks the same on my side

actually did less on my ult for some reason and the recording is cut wtf i cant even check

just gonna crit fish again

[drifting berry]

Yeah I was thinking, fgo doesn't have food, honkai impact 3rd doesn't have food, Azur lane doesn't have food, Girl's frontline, princess connect. It all started with Zelda botw

[ripe parrot]

guys I'm noticing something. In the second stage of Umbral, the crossbowman have a set attack pattern they follow

If all 4 crossbowman shoot at the start, they always throw bomb at the same time too

I think the no hit strat might be to kill one mob at a time lol

[neat snow]

[ivory widget]

Anyone know if Wulfgard's forced combustion scales off arts intensity?

Wondering if it's consistent with arts intensity not applying to forced solidification

[eternal pilot]

hello whats the talent upgrade priority for laeva?

[dry kindle]

🔥

[drifting berry]

got it from pins

[eternal pilot]

ty

[gritty olive]

Ult > skill >= combo > basic

Tho combo has the weakest share, the 1s reduction might be useful later on

[drifting quest]

There's some rots that require m3 combo but

Yknow

Dont waste resources on that

[gritty olive]

Id just leave it at r9 for now

So like 9/m3/9/m3 is good

[humble matrix]

Best P0 LR armor? I'm not sure Aethertech is always optimal

[drifting quest]

See pins

[outer ermine]

90ing everything mightve been the move

freesia crit buff is a lie

[humble matrix]

How accurate is that though? What was the testing? Recommends ult dmg chest. Does it supercede Yinglung's all skill?

[neat snow]

Test it

[drifting berry]

Pretty accurate, any answer that you can get here will give you a less accurate answer at least.

still arteficing is cheap, just use both

[drifting quest]

Should be better when you account for stats too yes

If it's wrong and you have proof of that then worth bringing up

I havent done calcs

[amber vapor]

Is this the actual verbiage they use?! Based devs if so

[red mulch]

Moderate burden of thinking during combat

[amber vapor]

I don't think, therefore I mash.

[quaint matrix]

What is the fastest p0 laev clear on roddahn?

I just saw a guy cleared in 38 secs with crit set

[drifting quest]

13s

Oh p0

Like 20

[quaint matrix]

Is there a link to that video?

I wanna see that p0 20 sec clear

[drifting quest]

See bilibili

There'll be a ton

[outer ermine]

i have a vision, this shit has to work

[drifting berry]

pretty sure this is not how graphs work

[drifting berry]

I'm scared

[gritty olive]

This is why you shouldnt trust rpwyden on dupe calcs

[drifting berry]

I just check it for fun at this point

[restive pine]

does anyone know what should be Last Rite's equip if I have her at Max pot for faster ult rotations?

[shut cobalt]

anything on prydwen for that matter
if anything char info is accurate ig, the rest questionable at best

[shrewd root]

ts is how gpu manufacturers showcase generational performance differences

[drifting berry]

And is not even good at it, endfield wiki actually gives you the multipliers of each lvl, materials and basically everything

there are no 4* striker btw

[bronze plume]

i mean yeah theres only 23 characters

theres lots of theres no x

with 6 clases and 5 4 stars that kinda just

will happen

[shut cobalt]

wow, im so shocked, turns out prydwen wasnt good at the only thing i thought it was good at

[drifting berry]

It would have been funny how a 4* striker would perform

[shut cobalt]

jokes aside, why were people recommending prydwen as "reliable" back in the release

it couldve not been more wrong

[bronze plume]

i recommend prydwen

[drifting berry]

I think for hsr is more decent?

[bronze plume]

cuz i say to do the opposite of it

hsr is the only decent one

cuz of gouba

[shut cobalt]

except tierlist

[bronze plume]

and thats the main game he focuses on

[bronze plume]

all tierlists ever no matter what

should be taken as a joke

[shut cobalt]

ngl at this point i think its a joke for all their tierlists to be that bad

cuz theres no way separate teams for 10 games would all make trash tierlists

[bronze plume]

i mean its not just prydwens

[drifting berry]

forgot I was supposed to try hsr

[bronze plume]

dont try hsr

[drifting berry]

lets se how many pulls get

[bronze plume]

do not

play hsr

[drifting berry]

just going there to gamble

[bronze plume]

its not worth the gambling gang

[shrewd root]

how much worse is p1 Aspirant vs p3 Sundering Steel? i may have accidentally levelled up the wrong one early game b4 witnessing le doc

[gritty olive]

i already got my e0s1 yaoguang

[red topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1467265372498563318/1471620939048423526/LaeBallerina.gif

[tired plinth]

Is Arts Damage Bonus and Arts Damage Dealt the same stat?

[pale solstice]

Play hsr
Just don’t expect to clear endgame

[drifting berry]

I got fk twice in a row by og arknights, I need to actually get something

[red topaz]

wait wrong channel

[gritty olive]

i dont remember arts damage dealt, but the latter should be vulnerability type of debuff, and the former being a dmg type of buff

[shut cobalt]

some tierlists can be actually reliable if done right, if it takes into account every possible scenario the char can be in, the teams etc
but regular tierlists just put:
GOD: X
SSS+++ Y
trash: Z
and turns out Z was actually needed for some teams for a specific content

[gritty olive]

so they should stack multiplicatively. can i see the two instances theyre worded ou

[bronze plume]

yeah and 99,9% of tierlists dont do that

[gritty olive]

the thing about tierlists is that its not only an x vs y format

[shut cobalt]

thats the problem with them and why they are notoriously bad

[gritty olive]

its an x vs y vs z format

[tight haven]

tierlists are good for making my tummy hurt

[bronze plume]

stop looking at food tierlists Enion

[gritty olive]

you cant just can every single scenario on a tierlist

[tight haven]

alternatively: tierlists are good for making me feel good about my decisions

[shut cobalt]

i've seen one game do it right atleast when i played it, browndust 2
had separate tierlists with what chars did for every gamemode
and no it wasnt as unhinged back then

[untold turtle]

I like tier lists (or people's reaction to them). Pretty fun conversation during the dry 4 weeks after the initial 2 weeks of a patch.

[tight haven]

they are very funny for discourse

[dire nymph]

tierlists are funny for pushing the agenda

[dry kindle]

Prydwen

[tight haven]

its the same ragebait every time and people cant stop falling for it because it is technically harmful

[dry kindle]

[shut cobalt]

btw, question, are moderators kinda lenient on offtopic conversations here?
seen multiple times it going very offtopic without intervention
not complaining, but its just weird

[wind nebula]

How does the TC community feel about the current low to mid-level performance floor required to clear current content?

[karmic tusk]

can endaxis keep track and give me a graph of ult energy like it does for sp?

[drifting berry]

without off topic this chat is death

[untold turtle]

tier lists are tc. just casual tc

[gritty olive]

@raizer

@rare zodiac

[gritty olive]

currently my laev simulator employs a very basic rotaiton

it being sims, you cant accoutn for on the field battles

on my view this is pretty basic