theorycrafting

[midnight stirrup]

[rare zodiac]

me neither

[rich linden]

Edge cases that only matter to 0.1%of the playerbase but hey im here for it

[edgy crater]

bruh theres no way fps different matters on ur dps

[bitter cove]

idk

[frozen tide]

it could depending on engine...

[bitter cove]

coz

[mystic halo]

the evil game known as destiny 2:

[ripe parrot]

i'm getting flashbacks to certain games

[frozen tide]

ur a destiny player?

[bitter cove]

i have faster clear when i swapped to 60 on phone
i usually play on 30 to lower the payload

[valid zealot]

Crucible was enjoyable for 10 sec when I get ult.

[frozen tide]

[bitter cove]

but it might be something else

[mystic halo]

in destiny 2 some weapons like triple in dmg at specific fps

and your movement is greatly affected by it as well

[bitter cove]

does it need to be more than 60/120+ fps

[dapper mason]

fire rate is better in better fps

[ripe parrot]

if anybody knows/has played tera, there was this one class (archer) where both your ping AND your fps mattered and it was literally like 9x the DPS if you could play on max FPS and lived right next to the server

[frozen tide]

in ds1 if you unlocked fps running would make you slower than walking

[rare zodiac]

peak p2w

[frozen tide]

but walking would make you zoom

[bitter cove]

afaik BDO also has that issue where the better ur cpu is, the better dps u get

[dapper mason]

ragnarok too

[rare nimbus]

with bdo u gotta play on runescape graphics to get that FPS to be in your favor

[ripe parrot]

korean mmos and dps being affected by hardware, name a better duo

[frozen tide]

games try not to make tickrate tied to frames challenge

[safe sand]

the heck?

[frozen tide]

what

is that a bug

[safe sand]

1 sec

let me see where tf this atk is coming from

because she normally has 2.7k

[frozen tide]

chen is good

but not THAT good

[civic wolf]

wait a minute

[ripe parrot]

fully stacked combat buffs maybe? even then that looks way too high

[civic wolf]

does the timer not stop whenever you cast ults in endfield 😭

[mystic halo]

some things stop

[bitter cove]

real timer for stage and achievement not

[frozen tide]

2 stack thermite and 5 stack sundering?

[rare zodiac]

not the timer tho

[frozen tide]

would be my guess

[civic wolf]

oh my god is that why i only score 178 secs at best

[ripe parrot]

still, it wouldn't be 9.2k ATK high

[safe sand]

thermite + sunder + endmin crystal + her own passive are the atk buffs i have

[frozen tide]

avengers level buff assembly

[safe sand]

welp time to go beat up rhodagn until i can replicate this

[mystic halo]

chen alter is here guys

[frozen tide]

now do that on a built p5 lifeng

and get 2000 atk or sm

[bitter cove]

buff and debuff timer stop when ult
when theres slow motion(such as dodge, combo), buff and debuff is also slowing down, but combo time normal (some exception like archlight combo stop combo cd), but real timer for achiv and stage always run normally

cmiiw

[midnight stirrup]

@mystic halo ive actually been wondering that

Gilb ult buff lasts 5s right

Does it keep counting while u cast other ults after

Or does casting ult freeze time

[rare zodiac]

it should freeze

[bitter cove]

u can test urself since buff debuff timer is visible

[safe sand]

ahhh! it's the operator exp domain effect. forget that those exist

[valid zealot]

mfw

[frozen tide]

also does anyone know mob respawn timer

is it diff depending on mob tier

whats elite mob respawn time

[ripe parrot]

don't tell content creators about this one little trick to double your ATK

[safe sand]

isnt it like 30m

[safe sand]

new thumbnail farming meta just dropped

[frozen tide]

could very well be

[ripe parrot]

my LAEVATEIN just hit 12K ATK???????

BIG RED ARROW

[civic wolf]

176 secs Rhodagn 😔

[edgy crater]

just keep beat rhodagon until u reach 120s

[dapper mason]

its for sure not you lae fault. the rotation

[frozen tide]

smth is very very wrong

if you are doing 180 sec rhod with that laev

did you ever post your supps

[edgy crater]

im sure some got time gated

[frozen tide]

what is time gate

[ripe parrot]

[safe sand]

[quaint matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-break-dance-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-gif-12163275330078387139

[frozen tide]

[civic wolf]

no battle skill invest wulf, ult invest on Ake

whatever lemme render a recording real quick

im convinced the game just happens to be tankier for me and no one else

[frozen tide]

yeah lets take a look

[civic wolf]

either that orfacetanking damage is a huge DPS loss

[ripe parrot]

okay as a side note, the power plateau alluvium area has the axe guy from ballista and axe and now I am REALLY good at dodging his attacks because i practiced no hit in umbral

[safe sand]

if its interrupting your batk strings it really is

[frozen tide]

i half afk watching smth with my screen minimized with 10 turrets

[edgy crater]

no matter how fast ur shit do, X mob will always spawn at Y time

[dapper mason]

post your support stuff too

[frozen tide]

ah ic

[civic wolf]

nice, this game has dogshit attack tells and Lav has one of the worst vfxslops in the game

[safe sand]

it depends on the character

[civic wolf]

rhodagn explosion sucks cuz its not a conventional red flash attack tell

[safe sand]

most atks that will disrupt your string have the red flash

[frozen tide]

do you have ember?

[ripe parrot]

skill issue

[safe sand]

genuinely you just have to memorize it

[civic wolf]

yeah but NOT rhodagn explosion since that's a walk behind wall thing

[safe sand]

i dodge when he contracts inwards

[ripe parrot]

but rhod actually has some very choreographed tells

[frozen tide]

its quite obviously a skill issue but no point rubbing it in

[edgy crater]

u can face tank it lol

[frozen tide]

we help how we can

[ripe parrot]

it does. it's like a half second after he glows

[frozen tide]

post supps

and vod too if you can

[twilit quail]

he stands behind the wall

[ripe parrot]

shiny red glow (there's SFX) -> half second -> dodge -> wait another second because there's a second explosion -> dodge

[civic wolf]

also some of rhodgan simply doesn't have that red flash like the charge tackle

[frozen tide]

what dis mean

[civic wolf]

i hate very delayed attacks so much, shit baits me into dodging earlier than i should

[ripe parrot]

there is a tell for every attack in rhod

[edgy crater]

theres hand gesture + sound signal

[outer ermine]

fuck the wall and keep dpsing and just dodge that shit

[frozen tide]

but like deadass if you are struggling to dodge rhod after multiple attempts

[civic wolf]

no amount of signals will be enough when i'm playing Lava lol

[frozen tide]

ember might be for you

this is what she was made for

her grand purpose

[rare zodiac]

what a burn

[safe sand]

@civic wolf are you doing this

[twilit quail]

so people who are being hit by every attack can beat umbral and say "guys this is good actually"

that is her purpose

[frozen tide]

im not trying to

[civic wolf]

yeah see, the first one has a red flash, fine, but the second one not having any is very ?????

[frozen tide]

shields prevents stagger right

[civic wolf]

idc if it's a skill issue, unless you reduce Lava's vfx i thnk a red flash is absolutely obligatory for every attack in the game

[frozen tide]

if he has ember sig too

he can just keep whaling on her

not giving a fuck

[civic wolf]

im not a fan when ZZZ decided to try to remove those red/yellow flashes on certain challenges eitehr

[rare zodiac]

i am a fan of that

make people less saying shit too ez

[ripe parrot]

i don't want to play a rhythm game where the game tells me to dodge everything with the equivalent of a gigantic red arrow telling me i'm dumb

[next helm]

that is required in the shitfest of animations and effects tho

We are not playing DS or elden ring

[civic wolf]

there's a video documenting that ZZZ attack dodge timing isn't consistent so the red/yellwo flash is absolutely necessary (including how visually busy the game is)

[next helm]

where you play in a sort of turn based timing

[carmine seal]

is navigator p5 better than yvonne sig at p0?

[ripe parrot]

like, this is nowhere near the level of VFX saturation where the game is unplayable. you can read everything still

[rare zodiac]

no

[carmine seal]

damn

[civic wolf]

if you're not playing as Lava

Lava is horrendeous actually

[ripe parrot]

I do play laev team though?

it's not that bad

[civic wolf]

no its that bad

[drifting berry]

difference between Navigator P5 and Signature is around 12%. Signature is better

[rare zodiac]

seem like a u issue

[ripe parrot]

besides, this is within the context of trimming rhod right?

[rare zodiac]

because i also play Lae

[ripe parrot]

rhod's patterns are so visibly distinct (and slow) that with enough practice, you can dodge them without requiring a large mental stack

[rare zodiac]

i just see 10s of vid and already die inside

[dapper mason]

hold your ake ult a little bit

[bitter cove]

i can see why

[dapper mason]

you just give link to ake bs

[drifting berry]

I've been trying to avoid it but I think it time to build Alesh for my Yvonne teams, does anyone have any video of how the rotation looks like?

[civic wolf]

what

[frozen tide]

ok

when ardelia combo skills

a bit after

[dapper mason]

or not maybe im blind

[frozen tide]

a smoke explosion happens

when that happens her battle skill button

[twilit quail]

ooooh man there's a lot of unpack

[frozen tide]

will shine

[dapper mason]

where the link goes to ?

[civic wolf]

tbh at lot of stuff in this game is just isn't immediatelly obvious

[outer ermine]

[frozen tide]

you are supposed to battle skill

when that happens

[west moon]

Devs gifted everyone 6 sanity serums, 100 each, right?

[frozen tide]

so that you get her susceptablility and weapon passive active

[west moon]

Do you think that means that they'll address sanity economy?

[frozen tide]

and it lasts 25/30 secs

[drifting quest]

hypergryph has been historically good with addressing feedback

so i'd hope the trend continues

[frozen tide]

just using ardelia battle skill

when the indicator pops

[drifting quest]

survey amount and changes made so far is promising

[frozen tide]

will increase your dmg significantly

[next helm]

Survey every time mention stat rebalance

[drifting quest]

this one didnt

[dense plank]

how much ult energy does using sp give

[drifting quest]

6.5 for team per 100 real sp

[next helm]

I mean that we should

[heady pine]

Click 4 when the prompt is up every 30 seconds

[dense plank]

does sp from recovery count?

[heady pine]

will prob cut you like 20 seconds

[drifting quest]

recovery yes
returned no

[dense plank]

I know returned doesnt count, but

ok thanks

[civic wolf]

the one guide i saw never mentioned Ardelia skill being used

[dense plank]

sorry again, what about combos

[dapper mason]

thats the only reason we use ardel

[frozen tide]

but dont click wulfgard bs

when it shines

[drifting quest]

combo is 10 to the unit who did the combo only

[dense plank]

thx

[drifting quest]

arclight combo is only 5

[frozen tide]

only click for ardelia and laevatain

[drifting quest]

the rest are mentioned in kit

[frozen tide]

pretend the wulfgard skill doesnt exist

[drifting quest]

arclights is not mentioned

[ripe parrot]

well that and corrosion I guess

[dapper mason]

oh ya corrosion for lae

[civic wolf]

Well this is dumb

This is what i use as a reference and since Ardelia skill was never used there i assume, yeah, i never use it then
https://youtu.be/KpYzd5SXwnI?t=1137

[twilit quail]

IT STRIKES AGAIN

the horror

[drifting quest]

OH MY GOD

[outer ermine]

[drifting quest]

AHAHAHAHA

THE IRONY

[bitter cove]

doesnt that vid come from beta

[drifting quest]

did you see

that all the youtubers pivoted from yvonne last rite

to yvonne snowshine

like

from one day to the next

complete flip

[twilit quail]

what like a hive mind?

[drifting quest]

yeah

[lucid widget]

honestly im enjoying the story so far its funny and light hearted with a undertone of actual like suffering in the future

[drifting quest]

i was so confused

[civic wolf]

i tried Yvonne Snowshin before getting Last Rtie

It was horrible

[heady pine]

isnt it right here

[drifting quest]

all the infographics too

[drifting berry]

Snowshine is better tho assumes you are able to parry and for general content is horrible

[drifting quest]

are snowshine shill now

[civic wolf]

its pretty much unusable on crowd content

[distant python]

ember gaming, i must now slowly upgrade the essence and some will artificing then im done

[mystic halo]

tfw the parry whiffs and I just spent SP to inflict 0 stacks

[drifting quest]

like

man

[twilit quail]

me when xaihi goes to the shadow realm for no reason

[distant python]

the 1st team looks fun though, i like snowshine and fluorite

[civic wolf]

so just use Ardelia skill whenever available?

[drifting quest]

fun maybe

good no

[ripe parrot]

when the button is shining (it's after your combo skill pops on ardelia)

[heady pine]

no every 25-30 seconds

[civic wolf]

so before i waste another batch of ginseng is tehre anything else of note from my terrible run

[ripe parrot]

the CS has a windup

[heady pine]

cause thats how long it lasts

[mystic halo]

when it is shining and youre about to do a lot of autos

[frozen tide]

when it shines

use it

[mystic halo]

and stop doing random lae BS

[next helm]

Where is the gilberta in the main teams

[twilit quail]

I think it can be forgiven that alesh isnt here

because who wants to use that guy

but man snowshine huh

[heady pine]

akekuri ult link should be used on laev

so keep that in mind

[rare zodiac]

i die inside seeing that tbh

[ripe parrot]

you know speaking of snowshine, I'm probably going to start looking at what would be her optimal DPS build

[distant python]

snowshine is cute

[civic wolf]

you dont use Battle skill whenever SP is availablee during ult?

[ripe parrot]

does anybody else in the world here have a built snowshine

[rare zodiac]

i just die inside more

[distant python]

i have no last rite or yvonne so i havent build her

[heady pine]

4 stacks my brotha

4 stacks

[mystic halo]

sorry I needed a moment

you also have to think about your next cycle

[drifting berry]

Question, how many Cryo stacks does Yvonne need to consume to get her ult every other rotation?

[mystic halo]

retaining stacks towards the end of the ult is generally good especially for high uptime fight such as this

[rare zodiac]

5 stack

[next helm]

Is using laev bskill mid ult not higher dmg than akekuri?

[bitter cove]

idk if u ever watch someone's gameplay but i dont think theres any video doing that

[next helm]

Or do you stop attacking so it is a damage loss

[rare zodiac]

if p1 and 33.4 efficiency 4 stack

[civic wolf]

So only battle skill Lav when 4 stacks?

[ripe parrot]

you're basically spending 100sp to do what your auto attacks accomplish anyway

[midnight stirrup]

Damn opal ignored my question

[dapper mason]

lae ult - ake bs - wulf combo -lae normal attack while on it. - final strike - ardelia combo - ardelia bs - ake ult - lae ebs - lae combo

[midnight stirrup]

L mod

[heady pine]

its about laev batk vs laev bskill more than akekuri

[heady pine]

ur auto attacks in ult do the same dmg unless its 4 stacks iirc

roughly

[civic wolf]

at the rate im going i'll probably never be good at the video games i pick up without being spoonfeed by someone else 😔

(tbf i was busy speedrunning the game so)

[heady pine]

i mean this would be easier if u had lvl 90 and 90 weapon

[dapper mason]

this should be enough for phase 1 with your current build

[heady pine]

but you can still do it with your current build

[bitter cove]

as long as u enjoy the game
i dont think thats anyone issue tbh

[civic wolf]

I got the trim from the event already btw and i dont know shit LMAO

[heady pine]

u just need to know some of the nuance buts its not too difficult

[twilit quail]

Im more interested in who told you to press BS whenever you had SP

[civic wolf]

Thats the one time i decided FOR MYSELF

[drifting quest]

i have sp so i must spend it

[mystic halo]

Damn.

[civic wolf]

because it just visually makes sen- yeah

[frozen tide]

[mystic halo]

ok well dont do that

[civic wolf]

Big AoE attack, so clearly i must use it

[mystic halo]

it's not great

[distant python]

no reason to sit on 3sp ever imo, unless you are like 2 seconds away from breaking

[heady pine]

i mean its great for mobs

so thats prob why u trimmed umbral

but for these solo bosses yeah

[ripe parrot]

okay honestly, if you didn't actually look into what optimal laev rotations would be, it does seem counter-intuitive to not spend SP on lae's skills when ulted

[summer flower]

Combo cooldowns

[midnight stirrup]

@drifting quest do you know

[frozen tide]

has anyone tried using lock on in endfield

[drifting quest]

do i know

[ripe parrot]

yes

lock on sucks

[next helm]

Maxed weapon finally

[midnight stirrup]

Whether when you cast gilb ult the buff starts counting even when ur casting other ults

[ripe parrot]

really bad

[next helm]

don't know what to do now

[summer flower]

Used it few times

Immobile stage is very useful there

[bitter cove]

me coz iam a phone user

[summer flower]

So skills don't land on lower attack unit

[midnight stirrup]

Yea you kinda have to on LR or she starts slashing the air

[frozen tide]

it feels like the only reason lock on even has a use case is because autotracking is too strong

sometimes my final strike just bounces onto some random bum

[midnight stirrup]

True

Lock on sucks

[drifting quest]

ult animations should pause buff timers

[summer flower]

He got into vision zone

[frozen tide]

are you phone?

[drifting quest]

afaik

[ripe parrot]

me as chen ulting a random dog

[midnight stirrup]

Nope

She just starts wildin

[frozen tide]

wth

[midnight stirrup]

Ok goodge thanks

[frozen tide]

doesnt happen to me

[summer flower]

Like going in front of camera when you doing photo

[civic wolf]

so am i supposed to use Akekuri ult immediately after lava ult?

[frozen tide]

ur rite is on smth

[summer flower]

But it's targeting and skill

[midnight stirrup]

Btw Schling have u seen this bug

[ripe parrot]

wait, you can't use camera while in combat right?

[frozen tide]

which

[summer flower]

Unit is moving

Or camera moving due to your movement

[ripe parrot]

I wanted to do a run where I style on rhod by taking a selfie with him during his fight

[safe sand]

pov my endmin does a 180 turn half map teleport to seal that same dog instead of the elite im trying to kill

[midnight stirrup]

@frozen tide skill not going on fs even tho its active

[summer flower]

And i don't mean camera camera

[midnight stirrup]

Only happens with essences but yaknow

[bitter cove]

right before u do lae's Enhanced(4stack) battle skill on ult form

[summer flower]

I mean your window of world you see

[frozen tide]

is that controller?

huh

[midnight stirrup]

Ya

[dapper mason]

no

[twilit quail]

If the enemies die to the FS many such effects dont trigger, this has been in the game since cbt2

[summer flower]

Is your controller dying?

[frozen tide]

ohhhh

i have had that too

[midnight stirrup]

Its not dying tho

[summer flower]

Ohh yea that thing

[frozen tide]

but i just started adjusting timing of it a lil

[summer flower]

Effects don't apply if target is dead

[frozen tide]

doesnt happen as much

[midnight stirrup]

Oh wait it is

Im dumb

Mb iana

[safe sand]

[twilit quail]

it's fine

[summer flower]

Like pretty sure arclight would have same behavior if perlica killed with combo

[frozen tide]

whats fs again

[midnight stirrup]

Final strike

[frozen tide]

ic

[summer flower]

It Would not trigger arclight's combo

[twilit quail]

it's kinda annoying that it's called that in english cause in chinese it's just heavy

[midnight stirrup]

That clarifies it

[summer flower]

Meanwhile i was here assuming you were cursing

[twilit quail]

a lot of the english terms are annoying really

I dont like

[summer flower]

Okay, but that's usually with translations

I don't Play games in my native language

[rich linden]

Like "dive"

[summer flower]

Dive is good

Its correct term dive attack

[rich linden]

Oho

[tight haven]

i feel like the english technical localization team was just exceptionally lazy

[bitter cove]

@civic wolf just understand this
ake's ult give link state, link state buff the next battle skill/ult depending on link's stack
lae's biggest nuke is her EBS on ult form(u cant buff her ult using link), so u want ur link buff that EBS

[summer flower]

Unless you don't make connection with parachute jumps and Word dive

Or planes and dive

[frozen tide]

i fully fucking agree

korean translations are good

maybe there was some issues with the translation team

[summer flower]

Translation is pretty fine imo

[frozen tide]

do they outsource translations

[summer flower]

Like final strike isnt horrid

[tight haven]

i know a lot of gacha game translations suffer from... some form of psychotic disorder that seems to convince them that they live in another timeline where some sort of primitive english dialect won out in favour of what we're working with here

[summer flower]

Dive is very much accurate

[tight haven]

but holy fucking shit how did gilbertas p2 description pass into release

[summer flower]

What's Horrid for translation?

[summer flower]

Effect or flavour?

[tight haven]

both

[frozen tide]

probs cause they work with non native english speakers

[tight haven]

it actively lies to you by omission

[tight haven]

yeah idk. could be a lot of things

[safe sand]

[frozen tide]

my guess is that they work with their country folks who learned english as a second or third language

and not like actual translators

tbh

sometimes movie translations are dogshit

[summer flower]

Man, effect looks nice for me

What do you mean?

[frozen tide]

and its done by top of the line translators

like they get paid a lot

[summer flower]

?

How it lies to you?

[daring dove]

Hows everyone else getting on with perfect essences for their 6* weapons, I'm upto 8 now feel like the rate of aquiring them is fairly decent?

[frozen tide]

lucky you brohamster

[civic wolf]

168 seconds.

I definitely fumbled something somehow

[summer flower]

Is it just me or for me its fine ?

[civic wolf]

if i have excess SP do you just use Ake Skill

for Ake ult buildup

[summer flower]

Its fine for me

What's wrong with that

[dire owl]

With what sanity? Lol

[jagged tiger]

Yep chinese Banned foreign english teacher since 2022

But ehh the quality is not too bas

[summer flower]

Like Man, i can understand that passive

[daring dove]

To be fair I'm only spending my sanity on essences right now for the most part doing very little material farming.

[summer flower]

How it lies by ommision?

[next helm]

Apel recommends drasticly different gear than spreadsheet does

[civic wolf]

wait, now that i know Ardelia skill is for sus boost, uh

gotta level that

[frozen tide]

sometimes i hear news from china and it sounds just like nk news

[tight haven]

what do you think it does

[jagged tiger]

so

[ripe parrot]

I haven't spent sanity on anything but essences for a long time now

[dire owl]

Wait wait wait, when you say perfect essence, do you just mean 3/3 on stats or do you mean fully perfected 6/6/3?

[jagged tiger]

There's a gear spreadsheet?

[dapper mason]

i wait until wulf combo is up. so i can get 2 infliction with 1 sp. wulf combo cd is 20 sec

[daring dove]

3/3, there's no way I'd have them all maxed not a million years.

Some are maxed

[dire owl]

Ok ok, I thought you meant you had 8 maxed essences already I was like wtf how

[summer flower]

Sus X2 normal amount if vunlerability 4 that's all, if they* have less than 4 vunl, before you calculate this skill as enemy having one more than they have

[frozen tide]

havent really even considered pre farming

for weaps i dont currently use

but i should save ones thats good for good weaps

[midnight stirrup]

Oh survey came out

Bro

[bitter cove]

kinda diff from my interpretation

[jagged tiger]

I don't think i will dabble into gear artificing much till 1.1 tbh

[midnight stirrup]

Hypergryph pointing the exact problems out in the survey

Gives me hope

[tight haven]

the enemy doesnt need to have 4 vuln for the doubled bonus susc to apply

[summer flower]

What's yours?

[dire owl]

More so just assigning stats that align with other weapons with the same third stat and if they line up with weapons you save em

[jagged tiger]

Cause i believe therel be some new gearset for 1.1

[summer flower]

Its toghether with other

[tight haven]

to be honest im not sure where you even got x2 from there since it just says "multiplies"

[jagged tiger]

That actually fits the characters more

[summer flower]

Just 4 vunl is most straightforwad case

[jagged tiger]

[frozen tide]

i consider that basically pre farming

[summer flower]

Double =x2

[tight haven]

like do you think a reasonable person would conclude that this is a 2x multiplication for the bonus susc only

[bitter cove]

on ult desc, vuln give more art susc depend on vuln stack
the pot double this bonus.
vuln total = vuln on enemy + 1, (max 4)

[tight haven]

oh wait holy shit they did change it in-game

nvm

[civic wolf]

oh. Thats Rhodagn jumping away as i cast my battle skill.

[twilit quail]

DEVS LISTENED

[civic wolf]

fuck Rhodagn...

[twilit quail]

[tight haven]

i made this complaint like 3 days ago LOL

[summer flower]

Yea vunl per stack two times, vunl count = vunlcount+1 max 4

[tight haven]

UNIRONICALLY DEV LISEN

alright you win

[frozen tide]

🔥

[tight haven]

translation twam vindicated

[tight haven]

lablol will be executed for being a rightist

[bitter cove]

am i right or am i wrong?

[ripe parrot]

oops didn't mean to quote reply

but if you think rhod is bad wait until you fight triagg

[tight haven]

vuln+1 is correct; and the bonus arts susc is indeed doubled

[summer flower]

What they did change?

[outer ermine]

okay something is happening w lr

or rhod

[twilit quail]

man I still cant believe yvonne is stuck with what she is stuck with currently

[outer ermine]

whichever

[twilit quail]

only one piece of crit...

[frozen tide]

why

[summer flower]

Man, i thought here we gonna have talk about DPS checks not reading compeehension checks

[bitter cove]

oh i thought u meant that its double including the base value

[summer flower]

Does it have base value?

[bitter cove]

yes

[summer flower]

I didnt read skill itself a lot

[drifting quest]

man i want to slam more for gilb p2

but surely its so bait

[summer flower]

Just brief look

[edgy crater]

u get different number?

[tight haven]

i claim credit for this btw

[bitter cove]

30% on m1

[mystic halo]

don't switch up when mi fu arrives with 2000% multiplier guaranteed crit

stay on that side

🙂

[drifting quest]

im skipping her anyway

my 1.1 chases would be tangtang if she's phys payoff and rossi if she's fire vg

[twilit quail]

1.1 is gonna be 2 units

almost certainly

[tight haven]

evil ass fangyi who gains 3x multiplier when attacking an enemy with vuln:

[drifting quest]

yeah

[ripe parrot]

tangtang 6* phys finisher unit (cope)

[twilit quail]

mifu is gonna be .2 probably and fangyi the patch after

[drifting quest]

1.1 being an unknown is the only reason im not going in on gilb

[daring dove]

10 more ult gain to go on Gilberrta to hit the 260+ target. Couple more days if I'm lucky?

[drifting quest]

what did the cn version of the stream say

[next helm]

260?

[drifting quest]

en implied all 6 of the teased units were 1.1 or 1.2

[ripe parrot]

I am hard skipping gilb but it feels bad because she looks fun to use

[next helm]

Did someone do gilb calcs?

[tight haven]

1 cskill 3 bskill breakpoint

with p4

[outer ermine]

it might be rhod ngl, i havent changed anything from yesterday and everyones dealing less

[next helm]

...

potential ahh

[civic wolf]

165 seconds

are u kidding me

[tight haven]

its lowkey a chud ass way of using gilb and i think its actually incorrect

[next helm]

Whats the normal ult charge you want to aim for?

[frozen tide]

genuinely boutta tweak

still no +3 twilight or deto

[edgy crater]

doesn't dat mean rhodagon got more def/res?

[twilit quail]

assigning something as ontologically chud-spirited is so fucking funny

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-5264665088346427047

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

yeah, i dont have a recent dorito or marble clear to check fuck

[frozen tide]

wtf does half those words mean iana

[daring dove]

I don't think it's possible to ultimate with her every rotation without P4, even with P4 it may still not be possible. So likely a good amount less. But I don't think there's a solid calc for it rn.

[wide latch]

any suggested pre-engraving stats? i feel like im doing it wrong

[next helm]

Shuo not doing their job

[outer ermine]

no way they buffed rhod right

[frozen tide]

i kinda hope they did buff rhod

hes too squishy for testing

[next helm]

Too squishy

[bitter cove]

depends on what weapon u trying to and if theres any other weapon to consider

[next helm]

I can't hit the timer

[ripe parrot]

doesn't seem like they buffed him

I'm doing similar numbers

let me actually compare from a previous run though

[edgy crater]

honestly, idm lol but damn they need to announce it if they do it

[daring dove]

He's too squishy for testing the other bosses are too annoying for testing.

[frozen tide]

real shit

catch me dead before i test smth on dorito

[wide latch]

i do mostly laev, gil, prefarm for yvonne, lifeng, ardelia, and prefarm pog. i havent touched <=5* characters essence so far

[frozen tide]

marble... ig i can

[civic wolf]

134 SECONDS CHAT

im actually getting better no way

[frozen tide]

ur getting close!

[daring dove]

I gave that Fidget spinner prick 1 rating across the board on todays survey. I hope he gets fired.

[bitter cove]

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/
i dont really go my way trying other tools for this but this one doing well for me
just add ur weapon and other weapon u consider to use then set which weapon to prio
it tells u what combination u should use

[civic wolf]

so when do you use Akekuri skill in the rotation?

[ripe parrot]

I'm doing slightly more but that's in line with my etching being +1 better so i think rhod's fine

[dapper mason]

every 20 sec maybe. wait for wulf combo cd

[tight haven]

theres your breakpoint

[civic wolf]

yeah but wulf combo would pretty much happen automatically during lava ult so

[tight haven]

this isnt very helpful though sadly

you want to match her ult efficiency with how often your laev/hypercarry bursts

[bitter cove]

u can do it when u feel like u need to advance the heat infliction for laev to comsume and u lack of it

[tight haven]

i think xiran/2slab gilb is unironically like

the best way to play LOL

[twilit quail]

I mean this is literally just it I think for so many situations rn

as funny as it is

[bitter cove]

e.g. outside of ult, u need 1 heat, wulf cd, theres pretty long time to get that 1 MF stack(all condition in 1, not seperate)

[tight haven]

yea she just Does Not Need to spam ult

her sig already gives so much fucking ult eff

[twilit quail]

ok so the thing is

if the weapon had atk%

IF, in another timeline that was the case

some cursed ass teams would actually be usable

im talking

perlica wulfgard gil endmin

[tight haven]

with gilb dps or

[twilit quail]

it's like

spiritually physical

where 3 units are doing dmg

if she had atk% on weapon this kinda unwell stuff

is not even that bad

[bitter cove]

whats will do on gil
more heal thats it?

[twilit quail]

atk

[tight haven]

she does dummy high damage with 2 slab

for a support at least

[stray thunder]

slab?

[bitter cove]

i see

[tight haven]

lynx slab

its a gear kit

[stray thunder]

oo ty. idk why but my brain instantly assumed it was an acronym

gotta learn the gear set names i been kinda glossing over that

[bitter cove]

slob
slab slop

[distant python]

Pog?

[noble elm]

Does anyone know iana's discord? I got some questions about her/his calc and I would love to discuss them with her/him

[safe sand]

if you want to talk to them just ping them here iirc they don't like to be DM'd that much

[twilit quail]

i'm literally here

[bitter cove]

pretty funny since the person u talking about is at ur face

[noble elm]

ah it's you

[twilit quail]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-meme-seiun-sky-laughing-ishowspeed-gif-14113194394369007579

[civic wolf]

so about Ardelia combo skill

[noble elm]

there are thousands of ianas here so i wasn't sure

[bitter cove]

fair

[civic wolf]

since ardelia cs triggers lava cs do you fire Ardelia skill first for sus apply?

before doing lava cs

[dapper mason]

if you have ult on save the cs. use it after ebs.

[civic wolf]

oh

so no Lava CS during Lava ult? wtf

[bitter cove]

personally i consider lae's cs as stacking tools rather than dmg

[dapper mason]

you can get 4 stack with ult on with ake bs wulf cs and and 2 times 3rd enhanced basic attack

[noble elm]

I'm curious about your testing criterias while doing the calcs (specifically lae), I'm trying to do some calcs on my own so knowing your testing criterias would be helpful. Also there are so many different calcs with different results online about the same things, which makes me wonder what influenced the results

[twilit quail]

it would help if you were more specific

[dapper mason]

you do use it after the first rotation. if you want faster stack

[noble elm]

Lae's weapons. What did you take into account while doing those calcs?

if it's something you prefer not to share it's fine

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-arknights-chen-qianyu-chen-arknights-endfield-gif-18168964414162263000

[twilit quail]

uhhh

those were on an older standard rotation

standard meaning

2 cycles of 1 ebs 1 combo

[drifting quest]

forge is even further ahead with charge build

[twilit quail]

there have been new developments that actually make torch a little bit better than before

[drifting quest]

you can see morbika's calcs

[twilit quail]

with chargemaxxing wulfgard p5

[drifting quest]

or well it depends if its

ebs spam or basic spam

in ult

i guess

[twilit quail]

you just have to use hot work

and put in a shitton of effort

to make it like 93% perf at p5

losing atk% is just so devastating

[bronze plume]

hello

people

with flesh

like me

:)

[noble elm]

Hmm ok

[twilit quail]

typically for weapon perf%

we use solo performance

[twilit quail]

cause it gives the most reliable results to use as a general guideline

with different buffs such as thermite in play the results will vary a bit and it's unavoidable

[noble elm]

makes sense

[twilit quail]

different people will end up with some differences when doing these things and it's pretty normal

[drifting quest]

morbika's should be per team

unless i missed something

[twilit quail]

usually if you want to be rigorous

you do solo performance

then also team performance%

I did it with physical at one point but it became an unbelievable pain in the ass

and I gave up

[noble elm]

I see

[tight haven]

i do think phys is a unique case because results lend themselves to volatility more than any other team

[potent hornet]

everyone better be slamming better rewards in the survey

[frozen tide]

i did

!

[twilit quail]

I still might

try to calculate rdps

for physical

just cause it seems fun

[bitter cove]

raid dps?

[twilit quail]

yeah

[tight haven]

i put in that i cant recommend the game to my gacha friends bc the gacha aspect just feels so fucking bad

[civic wolf]

131secs

yeah i think im at a point where i just need to invest more into Lava

[tight haven]

my friends who have already tried endfield and expected a good gacha experience have all stopped logging in like

4+ days ago

[bitter cove]

did u know about this tech called animation canceling

[manic blade]

I mean with their profit they could very wel afford to increase pull rate the question is if they would.

[bitter cove]

it might boost ur dps if u do it correctly

[tight haven]

scrounging up pulls and working toward guarantees is just too much of an uphill climb

[tight haven]

yep

[potent hornet]

i got really lucky with my pulls, and i know it. This scraping for sanity and basic pulls feels gross

[civic wolf]

yeah but idk what should be canceled

[tight haven]

the enemy

cancel their life buddy

[tight haven]

yeah...

i actually feel like progression is... uh...

[quaint matrix]

btw they promised more early game hh resources, where are those, huh?

[tight haven]

is it controversial to say it's fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine?

[bitter cove]

specific attack string and lae's combo
on ult form, 2nd attack string is 2-hits, but if u dodge after the first one hit, the attack string continue
for combo, u can just dash away after lae's sword hit the ground

[tight haven]

i still FULLY AGREE it should be increased though

idk idk i did p5 two 6* at this point so like

skewed perspective

the aic quota shop is broken as hell

[civic wolf]

i wont lose energy gain if i just dash away after the stab?

[bitter cove]

ye

[quaint matrix]

me farming for 2 days to lvl 1 skill from 11 to 12.... yeah it's fine

[bitter cove]

u can try on normal mob first

its easy to do

[tight haven]

yeah i think tc in particular could benefit from just being way easier to stockpile

[quaint matrix]

oh i forgot to include purple skill shards

maybe more than 2 days

[tight haven]

in og ak we had trading posts

we have nothing in ef

[twilit quail]

oh god

[tight haven]

tc is such a hard progress gate

[twilit quail]

ok now yvonne is going into the grill

[bitter cove]

low effort but since lae's dps tied to how many basic attack u did on ult
its worth it

[twilit quail]

in terms of what we're using

[ripe parrot]

well in OG AK if you remember the early chapters, we were starving for LMD real bad too

[tight haven]

EVERYTHING needs it

[tight haven]

what happened now

[twilit quail]

navigator

is better than we thought

[tight haven]

bruh

like "sig is homeless"

[twilit quail]

yeah

sig is

[tight haven]

or is this an umbral torch situation

[twilit quail]

kinda homeless

it's not looking that good

cause next bp we can max dupe nav, right

[tight haven]

maybe

if the crate lets us pick from older bo sigs

because otherwise we would need one more bp cycle to max it

[quaint matrix]

don't tell me p5 nav>sig?

[tight haven]

this was already the case

[frozen tide]

my game almost crashed doing snowshine operator guide wth

[tight haven]

it was VERY SLIGHTLY better

[bitter cove]

they probably just add more option to the box rather than replace it
atleast i hope so

[tight haven]

than p0 sig

[frozen tide]

is 3 shatter with ult vfx that taxing

[twilit quail]

ok so

p5 wedge

was better than sig

in what we were workingwith

p5 nav was looking like 92-94% with 0 ult start timeline

[tight haven]

wasnt p5 nav better too by a magnitude of like 3%

oh

[twilit quail]

not quite no

[drifting quest]

like

[quaint matrix]

wow,does this mean i can stack up my boxes and some future character bp wpns can be actually better than sig so i can save 15k arsenal tickets? i hope navigator wasn't just misscalculation from devs

[drifting quest]

sig is kinda ass

the more i look at it

the worse it looks

[twilit quail]

with the buffs to nav it is providing: 490 atk(15 less than sig), 156 int(same), 21% cr, 62.9% cryo
p5 wedge: 500 atk(5 less), 132 int(24 less), 19.5% cr, 100.8% arts dmg

and, basically, with the improved timelines

nav is almost 100% uptime on its 3rd ability buff

[drifting quest]

if you ever whiff a crit on sig then its like

so bad

[twilit quail]

and it's, uh

it might be better than sig

[drifting berry]

omg please not again

[thorn shore]

they got a trap channel to auto ban those guys

[drifting berry]

it's gone

[thorn shore]

its funny

#do-not-post-or-get-beaned

[drifting quest]

you gotta wonder what exactly they are all falling for

[twilit quail]

or if it isnt better

navigator is not worse enough

to make sig worth it

[drifting quest]

i feel like in a good chunk of scenarios even p0 wedge or navi can just be better

because of downtime on sig

[frozen tide]

i have that chat hidden

[twilit quail]

it's just that cause her best set is only using one piece with crit rate it's so hard to

[frozen tide]

so i stop getting temptations

[drifting quest]

i have every channel except the help and guides section hidden

[quaint matrix]

i hope yvonne sign is not misscalc from devs and such cases will happen occasionally where r5 bp is on part with sign or even better

[civic wolf]

aside from me not noticing the opportunity of using enhanced Lava skill with Ake ult (because i casted lava BS before casting Ake CS oops)

[drifting berry]

And the calcs for Wedge are still the same? P5 being about 105% compared to signature?

[civic wolf]

this is how you do this right?

[drifting quest]

it'll be the exception not the norm

same for gilb sig

[civic wolf]

did i do anything notably wrong aside from not being aware about being able to cancel Lava CS

[drifting quest]

they probably dont want sig weapons to be on par with or weaker than 'free' alternatives

[quaint matrix]

is bp one better than her sig?

[drifting quest]

for gilb no

but stanza is

gilb bp weapon is kinda

bad

[quaint matrix]

man gilb sign just gives diluted buff it's meh. ardelia sign is op meanwhile

[drifting quest]

fine for anyone doing daily gaming

ardelia sig is also kinda just worse than stanza a lot of the time

[civic wolf]

bump, asking for feedback

aside from me using Lava EBS during ult without knowing i can activate Ake Ult

if i just wait a few seconds in the middle of the run

[twilit quail]

as it currently stands we're looking at an order of: max wedge > no dupe sig > p4 wedge > p5 nav > p0 wedge

roughly there

but nav is like

it's definitely better than we thought it was

[daring dove]

Ardelia's sig is just better for ST bossing outside of that yeah Stanza's better.

[dapper mason]

can i see your buffer gear and stuff

[twilit quail]

the one thing saving sig is the 30s duration on buff

[drifting quest]

even in sgt stanza can be better

depends on team

attack buffs are kinda just

[civic wolf]

pretty much the spreadsheet build

[drifting quest]

that good

[twilit quail]

it's just that BP weapons cant be allowed to be both decent and versatile for multiple reasons

[daring dove]

Naw, Ardelia's will beat Stanza at matching potentials but if you don't align the potentials then sure I can see it.

[dapper mason]

all that buff but ebs hitting 110k is weird for me

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah im not considering p1+ ard sig 99% of people will not have it

maybe 99% is unfair

90+%

some will get p1 via the free 10

but stanza is pretty chill to get pots for

[drifting quest]

p1 guaranteed so far, easily p2-p5 with luck

[civic wolf]

7/9 6/9 4/4 Lava sig

maybe its etch that i dont max out enough?

[outer ermine]

its not rhod; perlica should be unaffected which she was so it was xaihi +15 int but

[civic wolf]

M2 Crown BS and Ult on Lava

[outer ermine]

am i going insane or wut, could be insane tight timing issue at the end but lemme get the vid for that inb4 im falling for the crit bug text again but ive got 4 runs where i "crit" 800k
that +800k should be my nocrit dmg; crosschecked from yesterday and today, and 11-12m for crit (havent seen toda, yet)

[daring dove]

Yeah, the main reason I give it to Sig for comfort though is not really the team buff it's these two stats. Together they can effectively almost doable the effectiveness of her teamwide healing.

[frozen tide]

you can cancel seq 2 and 4 of btk

[dapper mason]

oh you using er set

[edgy crater]

w8, yeah, aint u already do 1.1m crit?

[drifting quest]

likewise i dont consider TE% a thing at all because dodging is so good

not to say it doesnt have value for some

[civic wolf]

yeah but how early is the cancel?

[frozen tide]

for seq 4 you can just do it as soon as the dmg hits

[civic wolf]

seq 2?

[quaint matrix]

where all of mine wulling deliveries?

[outer ermine]

this is today, this is jakubs xaihi cuz yea rotation wise only thing i changed is tighter ard skill timing

[frozen tide]

seq 2 try experimenting

[quaint matrix]

i need those 210k extra

[outer ermine]

forgor to mute audio

[civic wolf]

aside from that is everything else good?

[drifting berry]

Question, does anyone how much debuff Perlica combo still does?

[dapper mason]

your er set fully artificed ?

[twilit quail]

where is the hotworks crit chest ardelia

[quaint matrix]

should be 12% if you have zero art intensity

[civic wolf]

full ER artifice yes

[drifting berry]

Oh that's why you max Arts intensity

[civic wolf]

currently working on Intellect Artifice

[bitter cove]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxOCd9DEzfW162FPYG89Z4Ni_4JXn_iWZ1
u can further improve the cancel on combo, he didnt do it in this vid
cancel are not strict to dodge, u can do it with combo

[outer ermine]

this is yesterday, but +15 int

[frozen tide]

start the fight swinging on the air dont wait for him to land to start

only the final strike needs to actually land

[outer ermine]

make her crit

[drifting berry]

Also other than Perlica combo skill and weapon skill like Stanza, does she offer anything else to the team (outside of electric teams)

[twilit quail]

she can use xaihi nature amp 🙂

[outer ermine]

i only do 100k on skill and i cant squeeze more out of her aside from more int from xai

but 128k a pop is

more outpost pls

[civic wolf]

oh, swing the air and dash cancel a bunch of FS? wouldn't that get interrupted when the guy lands though?

or am i going to be able to facetank that LOL

[frozen tide]

btk sequence doesnt get canceled from dash

[chilly bolt]

Literally just stanza bot and arts amp, you don't even need to touch her skills at all cuz it doesn't increase amp value

[frozen tide]

you swing towards him

[civic wolf]

yeah but u can only do up to two dash cancels

[frozen tide]

and before you reach fs he'll jump

[civic wolf]

before you have to finish FS

[frozen tide]

you dodge the jump

and land the fs

you shouldnt even be at fs when he reacts

[outer ermine]

just gonna crit fish till i see a real crit, dmg

[chilly bolt]

Is this p5 lr and p5 sig

[outer ermine]

yes

[chilly bolt]

Good luck with achieving this

[drifting berry]

I can also play at 144p

easily

[chilly bolt]

[edgy crater]

replaying for crit isnt hard, its just lazy to always ready xaihi n perlica ulti lol

[dapper mason]

i feel like there is small really small window that the 1st is 3 cyro stack and 2nd has 4 cyro stack

[outer ermine]

is that yz run

[chilly bolt]

Indeed

[twilit quail]

yz needs to stop making yvonne + lr videos man

[ripe parrot]

[twilit quail]

he's genuinely just bricking people's accounts

[ripe parrot]

having to spend sanity on 440/450 is just so evil

[outer ermine]

its the double crit at the end that im chasing ive critted both on main combo dmg+ard skill but im missing the last one

[twilit quail]

it's actually so cringe

[chilly bolt]

Duo dps cryo team

[twilit quail]

imagine being baited into building this shit

and getting omega cancer

trying to do literally anything

[drifting berry]

People are not ready for Seeker of Dark Lung Last Rite subdps.

[edgy crater]

doubled crit on 5% crit rate

[drifting quest]

its snowshine's turn

to be recommended in every yvonne team

[sterile patrol]

how fast is the clear these days

[drifting berry]

I would use Snowshine if my computer wasn't so slow

[ripe parrot]

who's next? estella?

[chilly bolt]

Does yz have a yt channel?

[drifting quest]

she had her phase already / still is

[edgy crater]

aint snowshine work better on shittier pc lol as u hardly dodge

[twilit quail]

he did 28s rhodan with 0+1 on both(10s slower than 0+1 last rite with 3 buffers)

[outer ermine]

as long as the stack flashes jsut b4 lr combo hits then it counts as 4 but im giving it a bit more room in a bit im too used to it rn so its hard to adjust

[twilit quail]

and he made a video saying

yeah man this works for f2p as well

🙂

fucking

unbelievable

[drifting berry]

idk, I have a easier time dodging than using her skill for some reason

[drifting quest]

honestly 10s worse is better than i expected it to do

[sterile patrol]

[drifting berry]

more familiar motion to right click to dodge

[ripe parrot]

reverse skill issue?

[twilit quail]

he's said before that it's not good

[outer ermine]

16.4%, ginseng supremacy

[twilit quail]

that it's just strictly worse than LR

and that it's just for using yvonne because he wants to

but he keeps making the dumbass videos

[edgy crater]

ok, 16% still manageable, just gonna cope with the loading screen lol

[dapper mason]

i guess rhodagn actually get ghost patch

[outer ermine]

or lr imagine i miss out on sub 11 cuz i grinded late

[ripe parrot]

i don't think it's rhod

[edgy crater]

shadow nerf

[twilit quail]

I also worked out a deranged

[drifting berry]

Man if Xaihi was 1 final attacks instead of 2 this whole discussion would not exist.

[outer ermine]

most likely lr

[tight haven]

the thing that makes gilbs sig so good is the ult eff on top of the passive

[twilit quail]

yvonne ange chen endmin

and it's like

[tight haven]

opens up some really really good gear combos

[twilit quail]

it's not even that much worse

than her actual team

it's so unserious

[edgy crater]

w8 really?

[drifting quest]

yeah removing bad units for good ones tends to do that

[sterile patrol]

wheelchair comes for us all

[drifting quest]

[twilit quail]

it's genuinely

playable

if you made me play yvonne

that might be what I pick

[drifting berry]

I saw the Yvonne Gilberta Estella Endmin, that other team is just physical with Yvonne

[edgy crater]

w8, ange chen endmin, aint dat just pysical in nutshell

[distant python]

Yvonne as the solidifier for shatter 🧠

[ripe parrot]

okay what if we just remove gilb and yvonne and just add idk someone like pog and lifeng? wait this seems like a decent team now

[drifting berry]

Yvonne was always meant to be Shatter enabler

[twilit quail]

I think chen is better than estella in here

if youre not poverty and cant afford more than lv60 in that slot

[ripe parrot]

just for more vuln sp economy?

makes sense to me

[twilit quail]

yeah so estella

[drifting berry]

With Chen does Yvonne even get to ult, or is another lr enabler situation?

[twilit quail]

actually has trouble stopping vuln stack from expiring here

the 20 second clock legitimately pressures her

[edgy crater]

aint dat mean, yvonne just got slapped into endmin 3op team lmao

[twilit quail]

every other cycle

[daring dove]

1 more skill on Akekuri an best girl is complete.

[civic wolf]

so how do you quickly get a lot of fillets

[ripe parrot]

m12 her coward

[outer ermine]

meat mines

[edgy crater]

extinct locall wildlife

[ripe parrot]

zipline dog trail or farm power plant alluvium forever

you get two awful options pick one

[drifting berry]

Ziplines for fillets is crazy

[outer ermine]

alluvium is more awful so set them ziplines up

[twilit quail]

oh

wait

[ripe parrot]

alluvium is easier to setup

[twilit quail]

Ive made a discovery

[edgy crater]

not really, fillet near rare growth

[twilit quail]

p5 ember is actually almost good here

in place of chen

ok

[ripe parrot]

so i do alluvium because i am NOT going to set up another zipline and do that for two accounts

[twilit quail]

🔥

[edgy crater]

[ripe parrot]

yooo p5 ember

[chilly bolt]

Dreamy was right?

[twilit quail]

so you are playing

[drifting berry]

I better get Ember from my selector so I can get her P5 in 6 years

[twilit quail]

yvonne gil ember endmin

it's so fucking unserious HAHAHA

ok so

you give ember xiranite

she can activate it with shelter

just get hit

and you can actually still play the game

ember p5 also helps patch up yvonne's missing atk

HAHAHA

[summer flower]

Alluvium is quite fast

[twilit quail]

dude I kind of want to try this

i wonder if anyone I know has an account with these units