theorycrafting

[ocean hawk]

why cant run stanza ?

[gritty olive]

tfym making sheets readable
its obviously not properly edited and im churning the numvers asap thats why the formatting was garbage

[frozen tide]

Akekuri is good

[unreal light]

some reason

[frozen tide]

She gives sp applies link

[unreal light]

can't hurt the cylinder

[frozen tide]

And applies thermite

Fluo is scuffed

[ocean hawk]

i mean the choice is only sig or stanza iirc

[ripe parrot]

isn't fluorite kinda clunky with her 40s application

[midnight stirrup]

Akehuri is in LR best team. Dont bother with Fluorite

[dawn patrol]

new sheet looks clean though icl

omg hi pepper

[open hare]

Huri

Huri Huri

[solar vale]

The cooldown is that long? Damn

[rich linden]

Wow antal > akekuri?

[ripe parrot]

yes lol

[solar vale]

Could have sworn it was shorter

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/원더호이-wonderhoy-wondahoy-hooray-tada-gif-27102628

Wonderhoy

[midnight stirrup]

Ok brainrot

[open hare]

It's fat

[solar vale]

Over perlica I'm assuming right?

[open hare]

Pepe dance

[keen ore]

Her P5 makes it, uh, “better”

[midnight stirrup]

Ardelia

[ripe parrot]

40 seconds like holy

[open hare]

Pepe brainrot

[dawn patrol]

pepper didn't say hi back i'm washed

[clear quartz]

guys which is better? ult uptime or dmg for Angelina???

[ripe parrot]

you can only use it twice in a trimmed rhod fight

[frozen tide]

Lr xai per ard is fine if you can kill the bosses before you go into sp starvation cycle

[solar vale]

Ok, I have her P5 so if it reduces it that makes sense

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-pepe-anime-dance-dancing-gif-16363406229036573658

[jaunty verge]

Holy ive seen someone on youtube use her as a dps with gilbert tho

[open hare]

I think they are busy

[solar vale]

You can really only use ake combo 2 -3 times too tho, right?

[keen ore]

M3 reduces it more, go for that.

[unreal light]

it's just that I don't have sig, and she's sitting right there without any weapon, so I wanted to upgrade atleast some weapon for her to use, that is not a stanza

perchance the weapon might be passed to perlica, so I was thinking about a detonation unit, or maybe even monaihe

[solar vale]

Any specific reason?

[ripe parrot]

wait, with p5 you can use it THREE times in trimmed rhod fight

[unreal light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/67-chen-vBb38ehwfwFRGRrDko

[solar vale]

M3?

[valid zealot]

mastery 3

Lv12

[rich linden]

@gritty olive i think its great! Id like to know essence/artifice level. Also the ability priority maybe note that lower % = higher priority cus some people might think its worse😭

[valid zealot]

That

is on them

[open hare]

Surely if I Invest the last two crowns my last rite gets stronger

[rich linden]

LMAO

[clear quartz]

guys which is better? ult uptime or dmg multiplier for Angelina???

[rich linden]

Fair enough ig

[solar vale]

nods

[open hare]

Angelina...

[valid zealot]

pat

[frozen tide]

Argument is that p5 per is very competitive in buffing output whilst not requiring sp

Ard has higher uptime but that only rly results in buffing one more cs per cycle

[rich linden]

My electro comp gonna go so hard

[frozen tide]

Second cs into ult can be amped fine by per

[open hare]

Zeus bolt

[solar vale]

Yeah, but with ardelia you aren't using her battle skill tho? That messes with cryo stacks

[open hare]

Avywenna is zeus

[jaunty verge]

Should I use perlica or ardelia in laevatain comp?

[rich linden]

I levelled perl a decent amount cus i played her main dps

[rich linden]

Ardelia

[frozen tide]

Ardelia has 0 source of nature infliction

And cannot mess up cryo

[solar vale]

Her battle skill

[open hare]

No

[frozen tide]

Ardelia applies corrosion not nature

[open hare]

Man

[frozen tide]

Big difference

[solar vale]

To trigger the corrosion consumption

[open hare]

She does not apply nature bruv

No

Gang

[jaunty verge]

Theres a difference wth

[keen ore]

Art Reaction vs Art Infliction

[frozen tide]

Her battle skill still does nit inflict nature

[solar vale]

I could have sworn that she applies corrosion on combo, but nature on battle

[frozen tide]

She does not

Check again

[keen ore]

Nope, and thankfully so

[peak void]

i need a physical team with gilberta in it but idk who to swap

[rich linden]

She doesnt apply nature, only corrosion

[solar vale]

I need to not be planning team stuff after midnight

Man

[open hare]

Yes

You need sleep

[keen ore]

My best teams are after 2 am

[open hare]

Cause you must be high

[rich linden]

Why would you run gilberta in physical

[peak void]

pull

[ripe parrot]

solely for aoe i assume

[frozen tide]

You might be thinking of gilberta since gilb does have nature infliction

[rich linden]

Oooo

[solar vale]

Probably

Mixing the two

[peak void]

just for overworld really

[rich linden]

Ahh

[frozen tide]

Just sub out pog or lifeng

[ripe parrot]

if it's for overworld replace panda

[rich linden]

Whats ur team rn?

[frozen tide]

And put them back on for bosses

[peak void]

soo i happen to have both, whos geting the boot

[solar vale]

Why pan when endmin

[frozen tide]

Maybe pog

[ripe parrot]

not pog for overworld

[open hare]

Xaihi dps when

[ripe parrot]

he has double dash

[keen ore]

I like pandas

[ripe parrot]

he is super omega S tier in overworld

[frozen tide]

Dont really have to sp recharge or breach for overworld

[peak void]

is the dobule dash actually useful in overworld

[frozen tide]

Is it even faster

[solar vale]

And subbing Pog just feels like bad idea

[ripe parrot]

yes

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-infomration-gif-6423869073842884707

[rich linden]

Guys i have a serious question

[peak void]

i think it just looks faster

[ripe parrot]

no it's actually faster

[rich linden]

Lifeng or pog

[solar vale]

Pog is fastest character if memory serves due to double dash

[open hare]

Pog

[ripe parrot]

unlike gilb/lifeng

[rich linden]

:0

[open hare]

Cause he's poggers

[ocean hawk]

hello

im new here

[open hare]

No your not

I have seen all

[ocean hawk]

[open hare]

And I have seen you

[ocean hawk]

trust me

[dawn patrol]

hello

[ocean hawk]

im new

[dawn patrol]

im new here

[woeful plume]

hello

im new here

[rich linden]

Hi new here, im zyrenn

[open hare]

Hello

Im new here

[ocean hawk]

[keen ore]

My mom named me new, so

Im new, too

[woeful plume]

where do we craft the theories?

[open hare]

Hi new I'm also nee

[peak void]

who is your mom

[open hare]

New

[keen ore]

New

[ripe parrot]

i can predict your question the answer is catcher / arclight / xaihi / da pan

[rich linden]

Miss new

[open hare]

I have a theory I'm new here

[peak void]

what the fuck kinda team

[open hare]

Are you new

[ocean hawk]

did my leaf role actually work

[jaunty verge]

Chat is this real?

[open hare]

Hi two new people

[ocean hawk]

[rich linden]

At the crafting table ofcourse

[open hare]

Yes

[ripe parrot]

yes ||no||

[rich linden]

It is lmao

[open hare]

Hey new people

Im new

[cosmic stump]

I think this is the best team I can make

[peak void]

scammer in this chat rn

[open hare]

Yes new

[dawn patrol]

the fact this is only 4s slower than my pb is concerning

[keen ore]

Hes got the triple now lmao

[drifting berry]

akekuri or arknight for electro

[peak void]

beware

[ocean hawk]

[frozen tide]

Yes but 200 k isn't that impressive all things considered

[peak void]

ARKNIGHT 🗣️ 🔥

[open hare]

ARKNIGHT 🗣️ 🔥

[rich linden]

My laeva hitting 96ks

Wdym 200k isnt impressive

[dawn patrol]

ARKNIGHT 🗣️ 🔥

[frozen tide]

Laeva is multi hit and not burst dmg either

[open hare]

Im gonna start mimicking people

[frozen tide]

Weird comparison

[open hare]

Like a mimic

[peak void]

im scared

[ripe parrot]

maybe add one more of those

[dawn patrol]

the real comparison is lr

[open hare]

im scared

[dawn patrol]

like fnaf secret of the mimic?

[keen ore]

That 200k is part of a like 900k combo

[open hare]

like fnaf secret of the mimic?

[frozen tide]

Lr hits past a mil on every billi video shes in

[keen ore]

But takes a whole ass minute to rotate back to it

[frozen tide]

I think i saw a 1.6 mil

[jaunty verge]

Bro what is he feedin that flourite

[rich linden]

Whale numbers

[open hare]

Bro what is he feedin that flourite

[rich linden]

Nahh

[keen ore]

Art Intensity mostly

[solar vale]

Is it worth to get to 4 stacks on LR before consuming? Or just 3 is good enough?

[ripe parrot]

makes sense

[frozen tide]

Depends on pot and ult charge

[frozen tide]

If p4 or using any ult piece you can 3 3 ult you would only 3 4 if the second cs kills

To save on ult

[rich linden]

Ive decided to build my electric team next over the phys team, cus i dont have both pog and lifeng

[keen ore]

Shocking

[jaunty verge]

Oh no hatsune miku is morbing

[solar vale]

Also, is it just me, or is it better to play litterally anyone besides LR in LR comp. Like Xaihi's combo is just faster, perlica too, ake. . . Well ok you don't play ake

[frozen tide]

Lifeng is sorta substitutable

[rich linden]

Ahaha. I see what u did there.

[frozen tide]

Pog is a must tho

[rich linden]

Ooh

[keen ore]

?

[ripe parrot]

i'd argue even lifeng is pretty crucial

[open hare]

Pog is a must tho

[frozen tide]

No point running true phys without pog

[solar vale]

Pog is mandatory

[rich linden]

"Shocking" "electric"?

[open hare]

Oh no hatsune miku is morbing

[solar vale]

Chen also is, but you get her guaranteed

[open hare]

"Shocking" "electric"?

[keen ore]

Oh, that’s funny. Nice catch.

[frozen tide]

Theres nothing that can even come close to doing pogs job theres chara that can do most of lifengs job(stagger and vuln)

[solar vale]

I don't think there's ever gonna be a better vuln stacker then chen

[frozen tide]

Tho you'll be missing dmg and link

[ripe parrot]

i agree with you there

[frozen tide]

Which is way better than missing breach and sp

[open hare]

Chara from undertale

[ripe parrot]

i just meant that lifeng has like a guaranteed spot in phys teams too

[solar vale]

Link is nice. Most of the phys members love link

[frozen tide]

Which I don't disagree

[dawn patrol]

pog and lifeng are mainstays atp

[frozen tide]

Just that he doesn't have both

[ripe parrot]

because who else are you gonna put as your 3rd and 4th? both panda and endmin?

[open hare]

Because their friendship links them together

[frozen tide]

Well the premise here is that hes missing one of the two

[solar vale]

Lifeung ult gets extra hit on link

[frozen tide]

[solar vale]

Chen ult is high aoe DMG (loves link)

[ripe parrot]

ERM AKSHULLY

chen's ult is ST

[dawn patrol]

^

[open hare]

OK, bye bye guys.

I have no more data

[keen ore]

Still loves Link. That 20% does a lot

[jaunty verge]

Who uses chens ult?

[ripe parrot]

yes

[open hare]

I will be back when I get wifi

[ripe parrot]

link is indeed good on chen's ult though

[solar vale]

And endmin ult, you hit link, you hit endmin combo, and you use it to do big numbers

[open hare]

link is indeed good on chen's ult though

[frozen tide]

Heres the way ill put it

[solar vale]

ST meaning

[ripe parrot]

single target

[open hare]

Single Target

[ripe parrot]

it looks like it's aoe but it's not

[solar vale]

Pog. . . You don't use Pog ult for DMG let's be real

[open hare]

AOE is Area of effect

[solar vale]

Oh, damn.

[keen ore]

Maybe you don’t

But neither do I

[solar vale]

I knew that

[ripe parrot]

wait, guys. you don't have a pog with 10k attack?

[solar vale]

Just never seen ST for single target

[open hare]

I knew that you would know that

[solar vale]

Idk

[frozen tide]

Phys either doesn't function or functions at severly reduced capacity without pog, phys still can function albeit a good bit worse without lifeng

[ripe parrot]

pog lynx slab gaming????

[dawn patrol]

pogchamp

[frozen tide]

Lifeng is bis as he does the vuln application does bis stagger bis dmg and applies link

[rich linden]

Maybe theyll released a limited lifeng soon copium

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/pogchamp-gif-20521801

[frozen tide]

You can match some of that dmg and stagger and the same vuln with a substitute

How are you gonna match pogs breach and sp

[jaunty verge]

Is it possible to just spam embers battle skill and keep staggering the enemy so the enemy is constantly unable to do anything

[solar vale]

I don't think that any member on phys team is gonna get replaced soon

[open hare]

Nill

[frozen tide]

Endmin very well could

[solar vale]

Unless they somehow make Chen but with better numbers

[open hare]

Null

[frozen tide]

If they release a high ass multiplier crush char

[rich linden]

Then main dps electro soon?

Im cooked either way

[ripe parrot]

hyper carry phys can possibly exist

[lime bear]

Sustain 2x Vuln applicator chen

[ripe parrot]

and that would change the phys setup too

[open hare]

Fangyi trust

We need fangyi to carry the electric team

And we need the greatest support cryo character for last rite

[lime bear]

even with Avy it's already really strong

[solar vale]

Would be nice. Electro team looking kinda meh tbh

[open hare]

Make fangyi better

[lime bear]

we need more ranged DPS, Fangyi nuke

[frozen tide]

Electro is quite good with avy alr and avy is a 5 star

[solar vale]

Avy is nice, but needs too much time to set up at the start of the fight

[frozen tide]

If electro gets proper 6 star dps output

It'll be busted

[open hare]

Fangyi drops xiranite pillars

[rich linden]

Im probably gonna end up building laevatain until next patch 💀

[solar vale]

^

[open hare]

Fangyi 6 star dps please hg

[jaunty verge]

I cant wait for rossi to come out. Good bye akekuri

[frozen tide]

Make fangyi an electrification bot with sp regen

So i can use with lr

[open hare]

Rossi is the first small team member

[ripe parrot]

do i build snowshine or do I wait and cope for a 6* parry operator

[frozen tide]

[solar vale]

What element we thinking she's gonna be?

[open hare]

Cope

[solar vale]

Cope

[open hare]

Guys will we ever have small team

[jaunty verge]

Def fire

[solar vale]

But when the coping is done

[open hare]

Can we get suzuran

[solar vale]

You will have what you wish

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/suzuran-arknights-bouquet-of-smiles-pv-suzucunny-gif-2570439911827129095

[frozen tide]

Most likely fire dunno if shes gonna be mono fire or a mix

[solar vale]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-alpha-pgr-alpha-punishing-gray-raven-alpha-gif-27258814

[frozen tide]

My guess is phys fire mix

[open hare]

Where's my suzuran

[dawn patrol]

need a miyabi type char in this game idc what element atp

[open hare]

Pgr is good

[open hare]

Where's vergil

[frozen tide]

Why are we punishing a gray bird

[rich linden]

Heat most likely no

[open hare]

Becauze

[open hare]

Vergil didn't pay child support

[solar vale]

Just started playing again after dropping it for a year, and everything is different

[open hare]

Memento Amoris

[solar vale]

He has too many kids. Can't pay them all. So he chooses to pay none

[frozen tide]

Awaiting silver palace release

[open hare]

Silver palace character needs to step on me

I need to step on things

[solar vale]

I'm so gay for Cinderella already

[open hare]

Cinderella

https://tenor.com/view/cinderella-silver-palace-gif-10250388076099255764

[solar vale]

YES

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-short-scream-excited-moistcritical-gif-18689575

[dawn patrol]

how is this real

[open hare]

Just wait for 2027

[solar vale]

Because the devs are awesome

[open hare]

WWWW

Leg strength is beyond insane

[jaunty verge]

Oh no my finger is tired~ I misspressed

[open hare]

Chat I wouldn't even bother

I would fail so I can do it again

[cosmic stump]

Best team for Wuling swamps

[open hare]

Where is this coming from

[solar vale]

Imagine a mod that turns the protocol storages into frogs

[open hare]

Thaf would be weiird

[solar vale]

Would be weird

Also silly

[open hare]

No

[dawn patrol]

what is tc even about 💔

[solar vale]

Just a visual change

[open hare]

Everything

[peak void]

i have crafted a theory

[open hare]

Does

This looks like a miku

Can Hatsune Miku fit in Endfield?

[solar vale]

I would see her as an electric operator

Probably some type of support

[open hare]

Cryo or electric

[solar vale]

Cryo works too

Ye

[open hare]

Music buff +50% more dmg lel

Dmg buff with heal

[solar vale]

That's her ult

[jaunty verge]

We need hatsune miku in og arknights aswell

[open hare]

Both is good

We can only dream

[peak void]

we got her in fortnite, we can have her here right

[solar vale]

We need more Hatsune miku

[jaunty verge]

She needs to sing po pi po pi po every time she activates her skill

[open hare]

Fortnite, what's that?

[peak void]

idk

[open hare]

Miku miku beam

[jaunty verge]

Miku miku beeeaaam

[solar vale]

Getting her in crosswords felt like a fever dream

[open hare]

Steve, MIKU AND IS THWT JOKER

[solar vale]

I thought I would main sage. But then miku appeared

And I haven't gone back

[open hare]

Stage 1

[open hare]

Your in stage 1

[solar vale]

Stage 1?

[jaunty verge]

Wth she is in crossworlds

[solar vale]

Yeah

And steve

And joker

(persona 5)

But those two don't matter

[jaunty verge]

Steve and joker I get but wth is hatsune miku doing there

[solar vale]

Miku is a multiversal entity

She goes wherever she pleases

But yeah, she even has her own music for different menus, and post race

And a couple different mid race tracks

[open hare]

Stage 1: Miku

[solar vale]

Is stage 2 Miku too?

[open hare]

No its more miku

[solar vale]

Ah, my mistake

[open hare]

Stage 3 is

The "Collector/Merch" Stage

[solar vale]

I wish I was there

[open hare]

4. The "Cultural Immersion" Stage

[heady pine]

Damn

[solar vale]

I would have so much Miku and teto merch

[open hare]

5. The "Eternal Fan" Stage

[open hare]

Another miku fan

[heady pine]

It’s me

[jaunty verge]

Is this stage 4?

[open hare]

Hatsune Miku

[open hare]

No

[cursive kettle]

someone explain to me the logic behind this, why does wulf need higher charge if p1 lae??

[heady pine]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-miku-plush-plush-hat-hat-flap-gif-14491615832420258280

[open hare]

That's stage 3

[dawn patrol]

more stacks for more ult ebs

[jaunty verge]

What is stage 4?

[twilit quail]

when SP is refunded you dont get the refunded SP's value in ult energy

[shut cobalt]

is there any more reliable way to trigger laev's enhanced skill than to not dodge at all?
any trick to make it so u can dodge while it casts?

[open hare]

You attend the concerts and start blurring the lines

[valid zealot]

P1 Lae "refund SP" which when consumed does not regen ult.

[twilit quail]

this is also what makes endmin p1 detrimental more than anything else

it's

so cringe

[valid zealot]

Sadge

[jaunty verge]

Ah then Im already passed stage 4

[cursive kettle]

why is that a thing

[twilit quail]

[cursive kettle]

pay to lose ass

[open hare]

Where's the figurines

[valid zealot]

Also iana, is Wulf need 241 sharp or rounded.

[twilit quail]

who knows

[shut cobalt]

?

[twilit quail]

uhhhh

I dont remember

but you need full artifice all

[open hare]

Yo is that pfp from the vampire shi

[twilit quail]

and 9/9 charge rate obj to hit the threshold

so I didnt bother putting exact number on it

[cursive kettle]

would this also affect the 107% charge needed for lae herself?

[unreal light]

yeah that's alucard

[twilit quail]

tide chest by itself covers it

so it's not a concern

thank you tide chest

[open hare]

No

[valid zealot]

Because full artificed is just 16+26.7+33.4+33.4=109.5

[twilit quail]

you need obj

[valid zealot]

Obj 8/9 is 31.4

[cursive kettle]

i see

[valid zealot]

Which in total is 140.9

icant

[twilit quail]

yeah you need 9/9 if you have p1

it's annoying

alternatively

use gilb

[valid zealot]

jeez

[twilit quail]

who can give 7% ult gain

xdddd

[valid zealot]

Missed by 0.1

icant

[shut cobalt]

?

[twilit quail]

you have to just wait til she smacks the orb

[jaunty verge]

Technically this isnt a miku figurine but Im already the past the point of no return

[shut cobalt]

its from a vampire anime

[twilit quail]

I think dodging after it is a small time save though

[open hare]

I don't trust that

[unreal light]

alucard?

[open hare]

I remember the characters were hot

[unreal light]

bro is horny

[shut cobalt]

but u cant dodge while its casting, and thats a big problem in agony umbral

[jaunty verge]

Lmao hot vampire go brrr

[open hare]

Hey look, its HA-

[jaunty verge]

I saw that one but someone bought it before I could

[open hare]

Miku can down my enemies

[open hare]

Sadge

[jaunty verge]

Calcium-chan figures are rare

[open hare]

How ironic coming from you

[twilit quail]

just deal with it man i dunno what to tell you

[heady pine]

Miku skin when

[open hare]

I need to go back to those stores with 20 million figurines for 500 yen

[unreal light]

oh that's of monster with horns, don't get confused

[open hare]

I know what kind of man you are

[unreal light]

a chen main

[open hare]

When you disappear like Miku

[warm galleon]

Delete this

[open hare]

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks

[open hare]

No, "Garrys mod Miku tool gun delete you"

[open hare]

That's my image now

[warm galleon]

It's my mikumikubeam

[open hare]

Just tank it like a coconut

[open hare]

No no no, you're mistaken. It's our miku miku beam.

Just like how its our miku

[dry kindle]

I mean you can

You just cancel it 🗿

[open hare]

To each Miku their own

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/patriot-arknights-walking-tanking-gif-7420185612525643349

[unreal light]

how much sp does laev need?

[gritty olive]

300 sp for one energy rotation

[torn wolf]

Assume we have tons of sp with eventual 6* fire vg, how would tide hot work laev fare against charge build?

[unreal light]

ty

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275737447803654146/1471666704785604835/image0.jpg?ex=698fc3ec&is=698e726c&hm=22703ad1dd29fe9bd1a1c6fa10e36504b9a4916b6762b15760149af47b7cc09a&

[twilit quail]

the better the sp becomes the better hot work would

4x ebs in ult is already insane rn

[shut cobalt]

and thats a whole 100 sp down the drain

[twilit quail]

imagine that with better cycling

hoooooly

[dry kindle]

Did this patch not kill 7ebs ult

[twilit quail]

no but it's less total damage than 4 ebs

with good buff timeline

[jaunty verge]

Simply final strike and stagger the enemy

[twilit quail]

it sounds kinda crazy but it's truw

4 is also way easier and has better rotation after

[gritty olive]

currently the difference doesnt matter for now for p0, so id recc just sticking with hotworks when you have artificed gear already

[frozen tide]

Every day we stray further from slab

[twilit quail]

I might make crit set for fun tbh

[gritty olive]

hotworks is also better for trimmign since you value more damage per interval

[dry kindle]

Can rossi just give us 8 ebs timeline standard

[jaunty verge]

Sure

[torn wolf]

[dry kindle]

Crit slab

[heady pine]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-the-disappearance-of-hatsune-miku-2020-abf-die-gif-18501770

[twilit quail]

every time combustion is applied to enemy gain 100 sp

[civic rover]

do i m3 my battle skill for lr , do i start e4 my supports and mastery those skiils

[ashen scroll]

What it if max pot , hotwork or other one

[dry kindle]

Double slab 🗣️

[frozen tide]

What's the point of slab building if you are min maxing ult ebs

[unreal light]

is alesh a good SP recharger?

[gritty olive]

thats what raizer will be doing

[frozen tide]

Isn't slab supposed to be for btk maxxing

[gritty olive]

its poised to err spam

[jaunty verge]

Do you have xaihi?

[open hare]

Gyatt no

[heady pine]

Worse than akekuri in 90% of situations

As an sp recharger

[twilit quail]

if he hits rare fish

[frozen tide]

No

[heady pine]

Just hit every time

[ashen scroll]

What is err

[frozen tide]

If he hits rare fish every time hes better than ake!!!

[dry kindle]

Has anyone been posting the dumbass bbs sheet recently

[unreal light]

yes

[dry kindle]

Energy recharge rate

[frozen tide]

What's bbs

[jaunty verge]

When your sp charge is a 30/30

[noble tapir]

BBS sheet? I need to see this

[dry kindle]

The crit set shilling one

[unreal light]

why do you ask

[noble tapir]

[unreal light]

in what situations is he better?

[gritty olive]

@noble tapir why did you join on january 22,

[dry kindle]

Oh wait right it's nga

Whatever

[ashen scroll]

So ult built

[dry kindle]

Pipebomb

[heady pine]

Hit the 10% on his fish

[frozen tide]

Crit set might be technical ceiling for laev when assuming full stack and maintained stack

[noble tapir]

What?

[unreal light]

I'm looking for the least sp hungry vanguard pos

[unreal light]

it's 10%? tf

[jaunty verge]

You can possibly make it work if you hit xaihis skill first then get a gurrenteed alesh proc which gives you sp 50 percent of the time but at that point its better to run the sleep women

[gritty olive]

your year of date was missing on my display. gave me a slight chuckle

[dry kindle]

Probably including average crit as well

[noble tapir]

Oh lol

[dry kindle]

We fucking love gambling

[frozen tide]

🔥

[unreal light]

oh wow

[heady pine]

Always 10% no matter what rank it is

[frozen tide]

The crit set atk passive is rly strong at max

[gritty olive]

humble 1 + cr% * cd%

[torn wolf]

Alesh's taking crit fishing to whole nother level

[open hare]

Bal

[ashen scroll]

If people love gambling why saving pulls

[unreal light]

why will it be guaranteed after xaihi?

[ashen scroll]

[unreal light]

I do have her, and I do want to start with her skill

[open hare]

So you can gamble more times in a row

[jaunty verge]

Only the solidification and combo skill. The sp gain is random af

[dry kindle]

And then you remember it has 2 basically dead pieces

[frozen tide]

We look at what's important

[peak void]

delayed gratification 👍

[gritty olive]

alesh is the chilchuck equivalent?

[frozen tide]

The atk and crit

[noble tapir]

And you get crit rate but no crit dmg

[dry kindle]

Explode

[ashen scroll]

theyre fake , real gambler win the 0% chance

[twilit quail]

yvonne is using only one piece with cr

lmao

[unreal light]

nah can't be doing a sleep woman, I need a vanguard

[frozen tide]

Yvonne gets so much cr and cd by herself

[noble tapir]

There’s a reason you want 2:1 crit scaling in all these other gacha games

[frozen tide]

And yet

[torn wolf]

Yire're right

[frozen tide]

She's nowhere near self sustained

[unreal light]

so 25% crit rate it is

[noble tapir]

Real

[frozen tide]

Im sure you are joking but that's not how it works 😭

[unreal light]

[ashen scroll]

He serious

[twilit quail]

nah chilchuck is a million times better than the stupid fish guy

[gritty olive]

depends on how the crit mult works

[noble tapir]

I mean, I don’t think that has anything to do with crit lol

[gritty olive]

but it follows a simple optimization formhla

because iirc wuwa cd already has the 100% inherent scaling baked into the crit damage stat

[unreal light]

so if I don't hit 10%, I don't gain any sp or what?

[frozen tide]

Yeah i just think its ironic that she has such high multipliers and crit boosts but is so severely dysfuctional she needs all the teammate help she can get

[dry kindle]

Eewwwwwwwwwww

[heady pine]

U do it’s just worse than akekuris

[dry kindle]

Crit value mentioned

[jaunty verge]

Yes

[heady pine]

So she’s just better in 90% of situation

[unreal light]

what's the difference between them

[noble tapir]

Hey I didn’t say the word smh

[dry kindle]

Kill this user

[noble tapir]

She’s just reliant on others for reactions, I think it’s ok lol

[torn wolf]

The existence of crit set means there'll be crit supps in the future and crit investor would go stonks!!1 everything else crumble against cdit!

[open hare]

No

[tardy smelt]

Is it worth it to level up all Laevatain skill stats? (like the last three upgrade)

[open hare]

I'll hit you with a 600 limbillion non crit damagr

[frozen tide]

Cdmg being locked at 150 means investing crit rate as a stat is terrible with gear giving very low number of cr as well

[jaunty verge]

You can kinda make it work with xaihi and estella constantly making the enemy proc solidification and trigger alesh sp gain but it still worse than akekuri

[heady pine]

Akekuri ult is 80

Alesh battle skill multiplier+ fish + ult is like 110?

[open hare]

Dedication

[noble tapir]

Fuck crit supports give me pog for every team comp

[heady pine]

I think u gotta kill 2 enemies with his ult too

[frozen tide]

Fr

[open hare]

Tensei

[frozen tide]

They should've made xaihis ult give sp on top of everything

[heady pine]

So alesh ult + kill 2 enemies + battle skill + 10% rare fish > akekuri ult

[noble tapir]

Shittara

[frozen tide]

Would've solved world hunger

[open hare]

Too stronk

[jaunty verge]

Thats easy his ult does alot of dmg when it crushes solidification

[unreal light]

ah but that gives more than akekuri

[open hare]

Milim fan I am

[torn wolf]

Enjoy your sp but I'm having my 1k crit dmg%

[noble tapir]

YAWN. IM PUSHING BUTTONS

[heady pine]

Yes if u one ability one ult kill 2 and hit the 10%

Better than akekuri

[gritty olive]

so crit hits are fixed at 1.5x damage correct?

[noble tapir]

My goat

[gritty olive]

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-milim-nava-anger-angry-gif-17562803028238532386

[unreal light]

it's not fixed, there's no bonus crit dmg at this moment

[ashen scroll]

I miss when critical mean something and actualy excite people not 100% rate 1000% cdmg slop

[noble tapir]

Yvonne has some

[gritty olive]

average damage with 5 cr inherent is 1.025

100 cr is going to be 1.50

[unreal light]

well I mean outside of character abilities

rather like from the set

[noble tapir]

Ok yeah lol

[gritty olive]

46% increase when 5 cr -> 100 cr

[unreal light]

wait it's not really 10%

it is up to 40%

[outer ermine]

thats rn if ur a speedrunner it means ALOT

[unreal light]

depending on how wise is alesh with his fishing methods

[open hare]

If only we have 100 crit rate

[unreal light]

if only one had 10k atk

[noble tapir]

That’s why I leave my aemeath at 96% crit rate. I need to GAMBA

[heady pine]

The rare fin is always 10%

No matter the rank

Unless we talking something else

[jaunty verge]

Pov: the team your trying to run

Its terrible

[unreal light]

nah it's not

I ain't snitchin

the cylinder must remain intact

[noble tapir]

Bro didn’t even spend the one dollar for grand vision smh

[open hare]

Guys

Can I

[jaunty verge]

I did Im just min maxing my purple eq

[heady pine]

Yes

[open hare]

Put whatever I wnay instead

Like

What if

Let me load my game rq

[ashen scroll]

Grand vision look ugly if it not max pot so underatandable

Crystal piss sword if p0

[unreal light]

it def is up to 40%

[jaunty verge]

Exactlyyy people said Im crazy for not using p0 grandcision

[heady pine]

Are u talking about sp recovery from infliction stacks

[unreal light]

I am talking about catching rare fish

it is up to 40% chance

[jaunty verge]

Endmin, you're a fisher man.

[heady pine]

It’s def 1p0% but let me check

[unreal light]

it is not, it is up to 40%

[noble tapir]

Bro why is fluorite there? That needs to be endmin

[unreal light]

no booba endmin

old and male

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1VTc3z3EBD

[heady pine]

It does not change

[unreal light]

yeah now read passive

[heady pine]

It is 10%

[unreal light]

it's up to 40%

[heady pine]

Oh wtf

Misinformed

Rip

[unreal light]

each day we learn from each other

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461535111223967764/1468145696912838717/GIF_20260203_134514_475.gif

[dawn patrol]

[ashen scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-ake-chen-gif-7317640194651369668

[surreal fern]

wow

[open hare]

[torn wolf]

Watch out chen 6* upcoming she'll be smart

[unreal light]

she'll wear no clothes

[noble tapir]

Chat what ult do I m3 first on physical team? Endmin chen or lifeng?

[gritty olive]

has anyone calced calcs for yvonne already

[unreal light]

and she'll make enemies wet

been there

[hollow pine]

name checks out

[unreal light]

the hell, I'm talking canon stuff

[torn wolf]

[heady pine]

Endmin

[hollow pine]

if ult Chen ult first then endmin

[unreal light]

how come not chen

[heady pine]

Endmin does more dmg share but u can do Chen

[torn wolf]

Idk why are all swords ult stuff is always flurry of slashes, then big slash as finisher

[unreal light]

I'm unsure, endmin's scale is lower

[torn wolf]

Like, make something else smh my head

[unreal light]

keqing curse

[ashen scroll]

M12 everyone

[heady pine]

I mean dmg share like she contributes the most dmg on the team overall

[unreal light]

what

[dawn patrol]

pog

[unreal light]

chen contributes the most obviously

[frozen tide]

Sword user swings their sword

🤯

[torn wolf]

Use the hilt or smth

[hollow pine]

bro if not for your name I would really say you're a nerd lmao

[unreal light]

oh it's of monster with horns

[heady pine]

On the physical team?

[noble tapir]

Is there something I should prioritize over ults? I already have pog m1 bs and ult

[heady pine]

Endmin does the most dmg

[unreal light]

yes

[heady pine]

Chen does 2nd most

[unreal light]

def not

[heady pine]

I’m pretty sure about this one

[noble tapir]

Endmin does the highest % of damage because of her crush

[unreal light]

care to prove?

[heady pine]

Sure

[unreal light]

I mean one chen skill is already more than endmin's crush

[jaunty verge]

@unreal light that gave me exactly one bar of sp lets goooo

[frozen tide]

Are we talking about dmg gained from controling

Or just their dmg ratio as a whole

[frozen tide]

?????????

[frozen tide]

Where are u getting these numbers

[gritty olive]

iana cmere

[hollow pine]

if you have built lifeng and pog as supports it's better to prioritize Chen - Endmin first on masteries. For 1 the scaling is higher/faster prioritizing them first. Pog and lifeng tbh contributes alot on sp and dmg%

[unreal light]

someone said something, still no proof

[frozen tide]

Yo where did u get that chen bs does more dmg than endmin crush

[noble tapir]

I’m on ai for pog and xiranite for lifeng so I guess Chen ult it is

[heady pine]

Yeah that’s certainly a take idk how he can come to that

It just doesn’t make sense unless he says battle skill without the endmin combo

[frozen tide]

@unreal light

[unreal light]

the same level of proof I guess

[heady pine]

I mean I can send some endmkn dmg numbers

[gritty olive]

[ashen scroll]

[jaunty verge]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-confused-jimmy-butler-confused-eye-squint-gif-12144635464811342257

[hollow pine]

whenever I see this I hear saintotas voice lmao

[heady pine]

Can someone send the 200k screenshots of endmin dmg

[ashen scroll]

If you play endmind solo they will do 100% more damage dealt 🤓 problem solved

[unreal light]

so we're comparing the damage per screenshot now?

xd

[heady pine]

Bro what

[gritty olive]

?

[frozen tide]

I get what horn is saying in that you shouldn't take someones word blindly as the truth but like where did he get the 1 chen bs does more dmg than endmin crush

[heady pine]

How much does Chen battle skill screenshot do

Like

Ofc we are comparing screenshot dmg

How else Do we get proof

What proof are we looking for if not screenshot dmg

[noble tapir]

I’m so sorry

[heady pine]

Between Chen bs and endmin bs

Am I missing something

[unreal light]

the fuck

damage per rotation

not per screen

[jaunty verge]

I keep reading bs as bull-

[unreal light]

"someone send 200k dmg crush"

like lmao

[heady pine]

Am I being ragebaiting

We went from “”who does more dmg” to “more dmg per rotation?”

[unreal light]

is that your screenshot

?

[jaunty verge]

"Dmg per screen"*** woke***

[heady pine]

No but it’s a pretty common amount of dmg for endmin crush

[ashen scroll]

Isnt physical team spread their resources? Not funneling hyper carry like fire team

[heady pine]

Like there’s many examples of this idk why we moving goalposts

It’s fine if u think Chen bs does more

[frozen tide]

With just 1 stack of vuln not to mention 4 endmin bs smurfs on chens

[heady pine]

But like idk why we’re changing the definition of “does more dmg” once I send screenshots

[peak void]

this is such utter poor problems can we just mastery both

[frozen tide]

Per cycle dmg would also depend on how much you buff each

[unreal light]

is that your screenshot or not?

[heady pine]

I said it wasn’t

[frozen tide]

@unreal light

[unreal light]

you didn't send it?

[frozen tide]

Yo does this guy have me blocked

[unreal light]

it was you who send the screenshot of the dps share

[frozen tide]

He has yet to acknowledge my existence

[ashen scroll]

Theyre poor dont say that , its insensitive

[jaunty verge]

Nah I think hes just tunnel visioned

[ashen scroll]

Sometimes people arguing to humiliate other not for truth

[heady pine]

Yeah cause there’s a lot of endmin players here who can hit those numbers

[noble tapir]

The ragebait is real

[heady pine]

I’m def being rage baited

Fell for it again reward

[unreal light]

bro do you even understand what screenshot am I talking about

not about the crush screenshot

[hollow pine]

idk which one dealt more

[heady pine]

Oh the dmg share one

[unreal light]

but about you sending the dmg share screenshot

[heady pine]

Yeah I sent that

[peak void]

I mean im poor myself, i havent even m1 pog bs and ult yet

[unreal light]

so what's the reason saying moving the goalposts

if that is you who started the whole team damage share stuff

https://tenor.com/hCSY1hBAcfk.gif

[heady pine]

Is this not you

[unreal light]

yes

[heady pine]

Then we moved goalposts to “Chen bs does more dmg than endmin bs”

Then we moved it again to “Chen does more dmg per rotation”

Like

[unreal light]

okay feel free to return to the team damage share

[heady pine]

Ok

…

[frozen tide]

Hey hornymonster how has your day been

[jaunty verge]

Bro you need to elaborate wth am I looking at

[frozen tide]

Maybe i was too abrupt with my approach

[unreal light]

team damage share proof

[ashen scroll]

Ignoring him also a option yk

[frozen tide]

We can start by talking about our days!

[twilit quail]

bro what is this

[ashen scroll]

[twilit quail]

?

[hollow pine]

you need foreplay bruh

[gritty olive]

damage share or smth

[heady pine]

I sent him the dmg share between endmin and Chen

[gritty olive]

lips sealed on this one

[heady pine]

And he sent me the screenshot above in response lol

[unreal light]

you've sent the screenshot of the @twilit quail document

[heady pine]

Yes

I did

[rich linden]

this is beautiful

[peak void]

iana since ur here can i ask

[twilit quail]

I

whatever Im not going to try and figure out what that convo was about

[hollow pine]

now buy toto 99% chance of winning

[ashen scroll]

Its actualy schling fault for not providinf math that even kids understand , that why thye ignore you

[unreal light]

ah I felt like you didn't know

[ashen scroll]

[frozen tide]

Tldr who does more dmg per cycle endmin vs chen

[unreal light]

soz

[river scroll]

what is Chen hyper carry team?

[heady pine]

Oh

No problem

[peak void]

how come these guys have lower ult charge req now

[jaunty verge]

Dps chen lets gooo

[twilit quail]

because we have longer rotation with more skills

if you go back to 2c6s then you will need 52.6 again

[river scroll]

Chen isn't nuke. but her damage per seconds is sexy

[hollow pine]

phy team honestly don't hypercarry so you would want resources spread among 2 main DPS like endmin-chen or pog-Chen or whatever you feel like it

[river scroll]

NOOOOO

[peak void]

im ngl idk what 2c6s is

2 combo 6 bs?

[frozen tide]

Phys team hypercarry would be possible if there were higher multiplier crush skills in the game

[river scroll]

what about an overall buff team to buff all Chen damage instead of nuke buff

[jaunty verge]

If only gilberta could proc endmin like she does with arts teams

[unreal light]

yeah sorry for being tunneled, It's just I used the words unproperly. I meant only bs not as bs once, rather "if we just take the damage done by chen battle skills", cause she uses more than one skill per each endmin's crush, rather like from 3 to 4

[river scroll]

which char or weapon that can give have long buff duration?

[ashen scroll]

Honestly endmind should havs unique element whytf they physical

[frozen tide]

Huh

I see

But when you consider crush multiplier

With 4 stacks

[river scroll]

yeah it should be originum cancer element

[frozen tide]

Which is when endmin crush gets used

[jaunty verge]

Endmin gives you rock cancer dmg

[ashen scroll]

Should have react to anything produced by the rock

[frozen tide]

Its 920% multiplier with crush alone no other buffs

[twilit quail]

yes

[frozen tide]

Which means to get the same dmg with chen bs

[ashen scroll]

Those 2 are just doing " my wife better than yours" they dont really care if chen or admin does more

[twilit quail]

it's as the doc describes but endmin has buffs and chen is using her crystals fragile

[ashen scroll]

[frozen tide]

You would need to bs 8 times assuming same atk

[twilit quail]

are you familiar with concepts of adps rdps and cdps

[hollow pine]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-martin-scorsese-cinema-this-is-cinema-gif-11588665845979953173

[heady pine]

Their both the first to be replaced in physical

[unreal light]

yeah, and if chen uses her bs 3 times, it is 1140%

and I don't know much about your rotation, but my rotation is 4 -> breach, 4 -> crush, so breach buffs all the ultimates in the team, and thus one cannot use endmin's crush without using chen skill from 3 to even 5 times

[ashen scroll]

[twilit quail]

actually calculating rdps for this team would be really fun

i might do that later

[frozen tide]

Its 920% of 350%

[river scroll]

i do know that dps mean damage per seconds and not mean for nuke

[frozen tide]

920% does not overwrite

[unreal light]

Didn't get your idea right

could you elaborate?

[frozen tide]

Actually

Its additive not multiplicative is it

🤔

[twilit quail]

adps is your personal damage + damage contributed to others with buffs + damage contributed to others' buffs
rdps is personal damage + damage contributed to others with buffs
cdps is just personal damage

[frozen tide]

So it'd be 350+920 assuming 0 arts int

[twilit quail]

what makes this really interesting in this case is the vuln application

[unreal light]

what were you trying to say

[raven escarp]

Meyow

[frozen tide]

I was mistaken so scrap what i said but

[frozen tide]

Crush dmg and endmin skill dmg is separate

And both are dmg

[unreal light]

yeah

true

[frozen tide]

So at 0 arts int its more like 1270%

+other buff sources

Like breach and crystal break and endmin talent

[twilit quail]

each time you are crushing or whatever you will also have crystals

so you need to count that

[unreal light]

where do you get this 920% multiplier?

[twilit quail]

plus whatever damage type it is(for bs vs ult)

[unreal light]

I mean, your first and third screenshot are both from the talos wiki

[frozen tide]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?usp=drivesdk

[unreal light]

and this is what the talos wiki says about crush

[frozen tide]

Might be accounting lvl bonus

If not one is wrong probs

🤔

@unreal light

It is accounting lvl bonus assumes at 90

[unreal light]

I see, thank you

makes sense

[frozen tide]

And lets add the crystal since iana brought it up

[river scroll]

who made this even? are we really going to continue to use the term "dps" for everything and even nuke?

[unreal light]

why would one have crystals when crush

[frozen tide]

@twilit quail does this apply on the consuming hit itself

[unreal light]

I mean you spend crystals on your ulti

[twilit quail]

(150%*1+4) * 1+(90-1)/392

[unreal light]

cause sig and stuff

[twilit quail]

with gv cs bs 4crush multiplier is 2022%

slightly higher than no link cs ult which is 1800%

[twilit quail]

this is explained in my doc

[twilit quail]

these are MMO terms which actually apply very well to this game

[frozen tide]

Mfw i have to read

[twilit quail]

like ok to put it plainly

dpsp is also a useful concept

but it also is just dps in a trench coat

of fucking course dps matters

[unreal light]

what for do you compare gv cs bs crush with non gv cs ult

you know gv buffs ulti aswell

[neon cave]

whats the difference between stagger and stagger efficiency bonus? do we know the formula for stagger?

[frozen tide]

You consume crystals with ult on breach rotation and consume with crush on dmg rotation

[unreal light]

I use both ults and crush once enemy is staggered (and breached at this point)

[twilit quail]

ult's advantage is that it doesnt fight for stacks doesnt use sp and you can use ult dmg% hands

but you cant just ult every time obviously

[ashen scroll]

Imo dps term is use for everything in general for goalpost related damage calculation, the other are used for the math and calc
And if your think about it most game like this either dps check or/and how much you can "nuke"

Then the smort ppl calculated and use said term for something more precise

(Not me)

[unreal light]

so why didn't you include gv here

[frozen tide]

In that circumstance i suppose you would ult consume crystals first then bs crush since bs cashout is bigger

[heady pine]

Stagger efficiency bonus is how much dmg u do to stagger bar

[frozen tide]

[twilit quail]

and the multiplier from crush is bigger, ignoring the multiplicative brackets at play

[heady pine]

Isn’t stagger just a mechanic

[twilit quail]

if you werent stupid you wouldnt be dwelling on this

is all I have to say

[unreal light]

okay, no argument, only insults

[twilit quail]

like of course it also works for ult

[unreal light]

says a lot