theorycrafting

[midnight stirrup]

Bro

Pleek

If buff ordering matters im uninstalling

[potent hornet]

i mean, it didn't before right?

[west moon]

When are we allowed to take shower?

[potent hornet]

why would that be part of the change

[edgy crater]

i mean, my buff ordering kinda different on those pic

[midnight stirrup]

Bc they didnt replicate the exact old image with buff order

[edgy crater]

n i lose 120k

[potent hornet]

all that would matter it additive and multiplicative

[midnight stirrup]

hence their comment about it could

Gimme my 200 oreberyl

[potent hornet]

so make sure your additive dmg is up then pop multi

[midnight stirrup]

Anyway

[potent hornet]

outside of that it shouldn't matter

[midnight stirrup]

State of Play about to start

Byeeee

[potent hornet]

even if you do the additive after the multi as long as it is all there when the dmg numbers pop it should be the same

[edgy crater]

well yeah

[west moon]

What's the deal with lava ult gain again?

[potent hornet]

the only change would come from not having a buff up you did before

[west moon]

I remember it is unique, but I don't know specifically

[potent hornet]

or a weaker buff than before

[west moon]

Some clarity in buffs would be nice

Sometimes I have 10 ticking buffs and I have no idea of their origin

It just works

[potent hornet]

as far as the player side is concerned anyway

[drifting quest]

enhanced skill hit = 100 extra
combo = replacement based on # of enemies hit, 25 in sgt

[west moon]

Anyone knows what is sanity discount?

[drifting quest]

should be just half cost

[west moon]

Half cost all protocols?

[drifting quest]

x claims per day, probably 3

[midnight stirrup]

Probably specific ones

[west moon]

I'm so fucked

I spent all my serums

[midnight stirrup]

Youll still be able to max utilise it bro

Dont even worry lol

120 a day, you got that

[west moon]

Next agony is inorganic constructs, probably aggeloi

[quaint matrix]

I’m losing my sanity over the fact how much mats I need to just lvl up 2 characters skills to 13

[midnight stirrup]

I mean u can see the next enemies for agony on the homepage of the event

Two are crossed out, two arent

[midnight stirrup]

Huh

[midnight stirrup]

Why is bro screaming at me

[west moon]

I can't read

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rvappstudios-valentines-day-happy-heart-jyYLZNC0smvFiNZur9

[pulsar sedge]

is anyone else experinecing insane lag in umbral

[midnight stirrup]

No

[west moon]

Can't wait to upgrade my essense of reading comprehension

[ocean hawk]

now I know where all my Tcreds went

[pulsar sedge]

its making the third agony stage a nightmare i enter experience 5 sec of rubberbanding and then instantly die

[ocean hawk]

rubberbanding? network lag?

[west moon]

It is on you. I have lags everywhere, except for protocol space

Cause there's virtually nothing to lag

It is small isolated scene

[pulsar sedge]

my ping is fine its like 30ms

[midnight stirrup]

I got 600k T creds lmao

[west moon]

I thought you were like me for a second

[midnight stirrup]

Baited yo ahh

[west moon]

I had 35 credits at some point

[ocean hawk]

then its not make any sense tho, since rubberbanding is network lag

[ocean hawk]

I GOT BAITED

i thought peppercat is poor too like me

[midnight stirrup]

I cant even force farm essences rn cause I capped out daily originium use

[dry kindle]

Imagine being poor

[drifting quest]

umbral gave a decent tcred payout

[midnight stirrup]

[drifting quest]

too bad i have no other mats

[midnight stirrup]

True

[dry kindle]

Mfw everything gives 60-90 xp tickets

[ocean hawk]

i dont have enough tcreds to utilize this

[west moon]

Umbral event rewards are lowkey trash. I can forgive the fact that it doesn't yield pull currency, but being dripfed with evolution materials for such challenges

It is not really nice

[ocean hawk]

and this

[covert fiber]

Dude it’s no use..that guy also been ragebaiting people at AIC section

[quaint matrix]

I need those I have t-credits to realise it

[midnight stirrup]

Bro came into chat completely confused about the context to hate

[quaint matrix]

How tf you got 81?

[midnight stirrup]

W fan

[west moon]

Wild accusation

[ocean hawk]

uhhh PP ?

[covert fiber]

His going to ask BP but when someone told him to check #1461542035617091681 he when full trigger mode

[ocean hawk]

and events ?

[west moon]

[quaint matrix]

I guess I also had 80 something then. How I used all of them already?

[ocean hawk]

well, did u crown some skills ?

[west moon]

It is not like mastery barely increases anything anyway

[midnight stirrup]

This server has some interesting people breh

[ocean hawk]

since I only did crowning / mastery 2 times until now

[drifting quest]

truly the more time i spend here the less i wish to stay

[midnight stirrup]

No literally

[quaint matrix]

I have crowned 3 laev skill and ult. crowned 2 ardelia skill and crowned 2 lifeng skill both for stronger sus

[ocean hawk]

u need to see #tech-support more

where all player that has lower than minimum requirements spec

seek support

and keep arguing

I hate it there

[west moon]

How do I build wulfgard into main DPS

[midnight stirrup]

They tarnished theorycrafting too

[drifting quest]

there's no real other tc server i know of

[midnight stirrup]

If Shuo, Sworce etc are not here

This chat is pure ass

[drifting quest]

guoba's seems chill but it's dead a lot
prydwen is prydwen

[ocean hawk]

eh, did I miss smth ?

[midnight stirrup]

Yes

[elder skiff]

The event gives pull currency though, or am I missing something 🤔

[west moon]

Milestones do not repeat

[midnight stirrup]

He means a lot of pull currency bro

[drifting quest]

2.4 pulls

or 1.2 pulls per week

[plain wigeon]

Is this the right channel to ask about rotations?

[elder skiff]

event last like 27 days so that’s probably the interval idk

[west moon]

5 pulls per month

Finally, endgame we've all been craving

[drifting quest]

sort of yes sort of no

[ocean hawk]

depends

[drifting quest]

just ask away

[ocean hawk]

ah shuo already answered

[drifting quest]

the channel is help 3 anyway

[ocean hawk]

[west moon]

I thought it is #team-build 2

[drifting quest]

it's both

[plain wigeon]

Are there rotations in Endfield?
Or is it just random bs go moment

[ripe parrot]

isn't it both

[drifting quest]

there are rotations yes

[dry kindle]

Phys

[west moon]

Depends on the team

[drifting quest]

they're more varied than you might be used to coming from other arpg gacha

[west moon]

Some teams are strictly cycled

[drifting quest]

most teams tend to have 3-20 or so

[west moon]

Some teams have action variety

[drifting quest]

unique rotations i mean

[plain wigeon]

I see

[drifting quest]

unless you're doing trims in recrisis you can ignore them pretty much

[plain wigeon]

So for example
Does a Physical team with Lifeng, Pog, EdMin and Chem has one?

[drifting quest]

yes

there's a doc pinned that explains the baseline one better than i could

[west moon]

Agony kinda made me sweat for the first time. Avywenna team isn't exactly best for this mode

[elder skiff]

2.4 is like half of the thing, so it’s essentially 4.8 pulls every month

[drifting quest]

isnt avy pretty good

unless its antal elec not gilb elec

[midnight stirrup]

Honestly

[west moon]

Gilb is pretty hard to pull f2p if you already got laeva

[midnight stirrup]

LR lowkey got cooked too

Cause u get punished for cancelling

[plain wigeon]

Oh yeah it's explaining team buildings and all
I think i'm very late because i'm already lvl52 and I haven't even unlocked the Xiranite prod chain

[drifting quest]

minimal aoe check versus the sgt nuker

[west moon]

Ability cancelling is bullshit

[ocean hawk]

here, avy on agony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztt1yz1CDC0

[west moon]

It needs to be compensated

[drifting quest]

you're behind but not enough to matter at all

[plain wigeon]

So honestly idk where to start to build chars above lvl60

[ocean hawk]

bring to u by marisa

[ripe parrot]

I would like to say as someone attempting no hit, the crossbow guy from axe and ballista makes me want to turn dogs into fillets

[drifting quest]

the only time gated content is umbral monument which is... easy, to say the least

[west moon]

Lemme guess, he uses P5 jet?

[plain wigeon]

so would it be an error to lvl 9 all skills on Gilberta?

[drifting quest]

yesnt

[plain wigeon]

Should I do that?

[ocean hawk]

bruh

watch it first

[plain wigeon]

She's all lvl6 for now

[quaint matrix]

Umbral is such a joke. I was building up energy to ult on laev and everything is like dead by the time I do it

[ocean hawk]

lemme guess, want to change the topic to essence now ?

[drifting quest]

if you have spare resources then skill, combo and ult are fine
basic is basically always a waste
if you're trying to conserve resources then take ult to sl7 and do nothing else

[elder skiff]

laev got like 1-2 mins clear on each one, so damn dominating for aoe contents like this tbf

[west moon]

Actually I'll say that I don't have gilb

I still need to donate like 80$ to pull her

[ocean hawk]

check marisa note tho, its just make it kinda easier on stage 2 only

[plain wigeon]

Well she's the first and only character that I E3'd so I have honestly no idea what i'm doing
My mind just goes like "woah she pretty lemme upgrade"

[plain wigeon]

So yes I have spare resources

[quaint matrix]

And yeah 2.4 pulls is a meme. So if we count out all the permanent stuff we got 16 pulls from dailies in 45 days and 4.8 pulls from umbral and the photo event is like 2.9 pulls?

[drifting quest]

basically for supports like gilberta you want to prioritise levelling skills that increase the buffs/debuffs they provide, while ignoring anything that only increases their damage
Gilberta only has a debuff on her ult, and the multiplier only increases at sl4, sl7 and m1

[daring dove]

Why is the Enfield open theme so good makes me want to wait on the loading screen instead of playing the game.

[ocean hawk]

I just want HG to release the patch that bring more pull source already

[drifting quest]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Gilberta
you can give the skills a look over and see how the multipliers increase per level

[west moon]

I think someone counted 30 pulls/month

Which is on the lower spectrum

[quaint matrix]

Yeah. I feel like er set is really good here

[west moon]

ZZZ got 50 for example

[drifting quest]

per month calcs suck

[quaint matrix]

Oh I forgot weeklies

[drifting quest]

per patch is what matters

[ocean hawk]

yeah, sometimes I afk on that screen

[drifting quest]

we dont know endfield per patch income because 1.0 is an outlier

[west moon]

In the long run, one time sources don't really matter

[plain wigeon]

so about this
where do I start? Do I build one team to lvl 80 (after finishing C2P2)

[west moon]

Monthly adds 12 pulls/month, which is pretty solid for 5$

[amber vapor]

Whatever the pull economy I will just employ my usual method of just saving all my pulls for the next character I like which usually ends up being the most OP by chance

[drifting quest]

teams are generally split into one of two types right now:
hypercarry teams, where you invest a ton into your dps and less into the supports
or the rest (mainly physical variants) which need investment into the entire team

depending on what you team is, or what team you plan to use, determines how best to spend resources in the short term

[daring dove]

100 wishes per patch would be a nice amount in my opinion. But realistically we'll be lucky if it's much over 75-80.

[drifting quest]

60 f2p should be the lowest we get, would be insane if they skimped more than that

80-100 mark would be nice

120+ would be very nice

[amber vapor]

Seems like 5 banner-specific HH tickets from login bonus per banner (spread over 7 days) is to be expected

[ripe parrot]

what is a wish even

[west moon]

Hopium

[ocean hawk]

if we kept going with 3 char per patch, then 120 is sane imo 1/3 of total chartered banner guarantee

[west moon]

Pull

[ocean hawk]

[drifting quest]

we should* drop down to 2 a patch

[ocean hawk]

then 100 is sane enough

[plain wigeon]

And how many teams should one have invested in (invested in meaning all chars >lvl80)?

[ocean hawk]

80 - 90 ish

[west moon]

Yep, 15 days per character is too fast

[amber vapor]

One team can clear all content

[west moon]

Focus on one team, when you finish it, start leveling second one

[amber vapor]

Until they add a multi team thing

[drifting quest]

you only need 1 for all content in the game, a second is possible but stretching resources thin, assuming day 1 player and got to wuling early

[distant python]

just make sure you build ardelia to trivalise current umbral

[drifting quest]

the second would just be for fun

[thin berry]

its 17 but we also get less pulls if we move to 2 banner

[amber vapor]

Ardelia is in like most teams by default tbf

[west moon]

Need more teams for variety, cause playing same cycle for month straight is pretty boring

[daring dove]

I reckon it'll be 2 characters per patch cycle going forward except anniversaries which will be like launch with 3 characters. But that's purely speculation.

[ocean hawk]

building second team when u dont have commitment is kinda..... not good. Even I dont know how to properly use lae rotation (my 2nd team)

[plain wigeon]

Ok i'm cooked i'm building 3 at the same time rn
With all non-overlapping characters
They're only lvl 60 though

[daring dove]

Opps wrong reply.

[distant python]

lvl 60 is fine, just taking them beyond you want to commit

[west moon]

I think it'll be like AK

[supple epoch]

Ever see a genshin dead patch 👀👀👀

[west moon]

2 chars and third collaboration

[drifting quest]

21d per banner, 2 banners, 42d patches
common trend, works well

[west moon]

If there's collaboration

[ocean hawk]

oh, btw will AK EF had half anniversaries? iirc OG AK has half anniversaries right ?

[supple epoch]

54 pulls like 3x last year lol

[drifting quest]

potentially but prob not

[ocean hawk]

[west moon]

Do you think we are getting alters? Specifically Z7 alters

[amber vapor]

6 weeks cycle is pretty standard yeah

[drifting quest]

less likely in a 3d arpg but not impossible

[amber vapor]

Fangyi will be end of 1.1 so I'm holding strong

[daring dove]

Yeah anything more than 24 days with 1 character starts to feel a bit tiresome.

[drifting quest]

the ayaka incident

[amber vapor]

Unless they do rossi and then tangtang and save Fangyi for 1.2

[ocean hawk]

💀

[midnight stirrup]

Probably. I feel like theyre gonna focus more on around being able to get a 6-star in a patch rather than the guaranteed one. If you want the guarantee, you gotta bridge patches.

[daring dove]

Don't remind me

[west moon]

It is good IMO, more time to get pulls, right?

[daring dove]

Ok but what happens when you pull them day 1?

[west moon]

Continue saving?

F2P mentality

[drifting quest]

80/patch to have a 50/50 chance for one would be like okay

[amber vapor]

My most anticipated character back in the day and I missed her because I forgot when her banner was and I was busy with exams 😭

[drifting quest]

2 guarantees every 3 patches

[midnight stirrup]

Yea

I dont think theyre gonna give income based on the guarantee

120 is a lot

[amber vapor]

If you don't have enough arsenal tickets then just burn them till you do

[daring dove]

Ok but if you're waiting a month for the next character to come along you can start to lose interest.

[west moon]

Without pity carryover lowkey sounds like ass. Can't even get what you want

[drifting quest]

you'd have to spend or skip patches yes

thats the point

[plain wigeon]

About teams
In the guide I've seen Yvonne getting trash talked a lot
Is she really bad or smth?

[amber vapor]

Yes this is typically how gachas work per patch cycle

[west moon]

I started to lose interest when it turned out that there's no gameplay

[amber vapor]

Performs way worse than other teams and her kit is a coin flip

[drifting quest]

can she clear content? yes
will it be easy relative to better units? no
is she bad? ehhhhhh she definitely has sone very big, problematic kit issues that are not easily solved

[plain wigeon]

how so? I don't have her

[distant python]

however she also has large assets

[daring dove]

21-24 day character releases stops you getting burnt out a bit better as there's always something else not too far away to look forward to / consider.

[west moon]

Just one more 6 star support and she'll shine, trust me

[ocean hawk]

👀

[ripe parrot]

dude fuck the crossbow guy in umbral

why does his triple shot attack have such little windup

[ocean hawk]

prioritize the crossbow and kite the melee ones

[daring dove]

But even as a whale I agree a new character everry 17 days is too much.

[distant python]

solution

[ripe parrot]

in axe and ballista btw

[distant python]

simply do not die

[ripe parrot]

doing no hit

[daring dove]

But I'd be fine with it during major celebrations.

[drifting quest]

the year in 2030
the 60th support for yvonne has been released. they buff specifically yvonne and yvonne only, giving thousands of crit damage, applying infinite amounts of cryo and printing endless sp
last rite is still better

[ocean hawk]

ah

no hit

[distant python]

oh

gg

[amber vapor]

Her combat skill and combo skill can straight up whiff and her sig buffs DMG only if you crit on those skills (combat skill is one but and p0 burst is 3 hits in a small aoe). Her ult is basic attacks and then a big final attack but you are completely immobile and vulnerable while it happens.

[distant python]

have fun

[elder skiff]

crit is generally not good enough right now, purely because crit gears are not that good and there are no crit supports yet, so yvonne is not gonna be better than LR anytime soon until a crit support comes out

[ocean hawk]

isnt this same as Jing Yuan situation

[west moon]

It just happens that Yvonne supports also support LR

[ocean hawk]

[distant python]

tbf, the new supports were good for him, then they release the version 3.x dps which power crept everything

[amber vapor]

I pulled Yvonne and built her with LR as support just for shits and giggles because I already had my LR at a high level so LR was just a sub-dps crutch to my Yvonne

[west moon]

Any hopes for sankta spearman being good?

I kinda like how he looks

[plain wigeon]

I was deadass going to go all in to get Yvonne when her banner becomes available
And I suppose Last Rite doesn't depend on Crit?

[amber vapor]

And even with LR carrying the constant Yvonne skill whiffs was tilting

[ocean hawk]

he's already expired imo, imo the amphoreus is turning point for HSR which start to go more specific for path mechanics

[amber vapor]

The only nice thing is the instant solidification

[ocean hawk]

which follow up is kinda..... elation

[distant python]

which is also where i stopped playing

[daring dove]

To be fair they could fix CR characters fairly easily, just release a gear set that gives +100% CD.

[distant python]

me when powercreep and hyper specific teams are required to make characters function

[elder skiff]

yvonne is the only one using crit rn, everyone else doesn’t

[distant python]

i just wanted to ahve fun with himeko and jade man

[amber vapor]

LR is a single target nuker

[daring dove]

I keep replying to the wrong person.

[west moon]

Her weapon is the only one that can't be optimized in essense farming btw

[amber vapor]

Which is what Yvonne is supposed to be too but the crit version

[west moon]

She's so unique

[plain wigeon]

oh regarding that
When should one actually farm those

[drifting quest]

the game is currently easy you can use whoever you want, but future proofing advice if you want to chase meta is to skip yvonne

[plain wigeon]

Essences

[distant python]

nope, i need crit on my ember weapon

[elder skiff]

just use wedge lol it’s not even worth pulling her sig

[amber vapor]

Think of it this way. LR give a stable DMG output that doesn't rely on RNG versus Yvonne who relies on a coin flip for every attack to do any meaningful DMG

[west moon]

After you E4 your operators and weapons

After essences you do 80 > 90

[amber vapor]

LR is self-sufficient while Yvonne needs someone else to apply cold

[daring dove]

They kind of need to release a good CD boosting set. Because right now CR is such a bad stat. Any character that has a CR sub on their weapon is automatically majorly flawed.

[distant python]

you really dont need essences that badly, i just full cleared umbral with only purple essences except for ardelia weapon

[plain wigeon]

and what about essences just for the Node progress rewards?

[amber vapor]

Fangyi gonna be the Jihnsi of this game trust

Crit DMG ult

[elder skiff]

crit rate is low and even when crit there’s no crit dmg, crit is so scuffed

[drifting quest]

no critslop

[plain wigeon]

I have none
Which is concerning

[drifting quest]

we are better than the critslop

[distant python]

i like crit finishers

[west moon]

You'll get there eventually. No reason to hassle just for them

[amber vapor]

You get them from elite enemies and effluvium without spending stamina

[gritty olive]

at most the "crit" in endfield would be something like ela's second passive

[midnight stirrup]

Another essence ticket down the drain. No ATK roll

What the fuck

[west moon]

LR Sig?

[midnight stirrup]

Yes

[elder skiff]

yvonne is gonna be decent when we have an equivalent of shorekeeper i guess

[gritty olive]

"Attacks have a 30% chance to deal 150% of ATK as Physical damage; The chance is increased to 100% when attacking a target that's affected by a GRZMOT Mine"

[midnight stirrup]

I keep rolling Strength/BS/Deto

[west moon]

You mean another wife?

[gritty olive]

dont play wuwa. what gives

[elder skiff]

shorekeeper = crit healer

basically

[amber vapor]

SK heals and also buffs crit DMG

[drifting quest]

Consumes 100 HP per second and deals 200 True damage per second to enemies that have either attacked or been attacked by this unit. Attack range +1, Max HP +60%, ATK +120%, and each attack restores 5% HP and has a 25% chance to stun targets for 5 seconds

[amber vapor]

Oh yeah there's no true DMG in this game yet huh

[dry kindle]

Hoe

[amber vapor]

And there's no built in vamp either

[gritty olive]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Hoederer. I try to play Kal'tsit. My Hoederer deals more damage. I try to play Ray. My Hoederer deals more damage. I try to play Wisadel. My Hoederer deals more damage. I want to play Sniper/Med. The best team has Hoederer. I want to play Def/Supp, Guard/Vanguard. They both want Hoederer.

He grabs me by the throat. I buy him a laptop. I cook for him. I boot up u-officials stream. He isn't satisfied. I pull Qiubai. "I don't need this much cc" He tells me. "Give me more aspd." He grabs Ulpianus and forces him to throw himself at a Sarkaz Devourer. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Chalice."

I can't get Chalice, I don't have enough ingots. He grabs my investment savings. It's empty. "Guess this is the end." He grabs Ines. He says "Ines, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, next attack restores 25% hp application. What a cruel world.

[amber vapor]

I could see Rossi being a berserker with vamp

[drifting quest]

i miss akdle

[west moon]

Prepare to spend like 20 of them

[ocean hawk]

@redditbot, remind me in 1 year when this game start being critslop just like the others

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[drifting quest]

ill take all your deep cuts

[amber vapor]

Gambling for odds in a gacha? Inconceivable!

[gritty olive]

adds crit rate
no crit damage buffs

[quaint matrix]

I think even if we gonna have 3 characters per patch which I doubt we will. And even if we get enough pulls for that like cmon,I can barely gear my second team after I build laev. If the game gave me Gilberta rn I wouldn’t be able to use her. So if in imaginary world I get 3 characters per patch there is no way im investing all of them

[midnight stirrup]

Brother

[distant python]

the encrittening

[gritty olive]

[midnight stirrup]

Did u miss the memo

[ocean hawk]

thats kinda...... sucks

all that crit fishing just for what ?

50% more extra damage ?

[midnight stirrup]

I spent like 40-50 tickets

[west moon]

Prepare to spend another 50 then

[gritty olive]

honestly

[west moon]

at least you'll get all upgrades immediately

[gritty olive]

yvonme doesnt have a nuke right?

[west moon]

[gritty olive]

like one damage being 100000% scaling

[midnight stirrup]

Im about to choke yo ahh

[plain wigeon]

Can you spend between 17-27 more tickets?

[gritty olive]

its fine for her to have crit ststs if its like thst

[amber vapor]

Her ult final hit is supposed to be that but it sucks

[potent hornet]

gib moar sanity plz

[ocean hawk]

sanity less (insane) behaviour

dont worry, we all the same

[plain wigeon]

how about using Oroberries

[quaint matrix]

Yeah I wish we get that 600 sanity pack every day

[west moon]

Oroberries

[potent hornet]

i have used everything so far

[distant python]

what do i even do, except for trim boss medals

[plain wigeon]

was that the wrong spelling?

[potent hornet]

trying to get a perfect essence for LR

[west moon]

Oroberyls

[midnight stirrup]

Guess we downloading kingdom hearts since content drought

[amber vapor]

Wanna know what's funny about Yvonne

[ocean hawk]

even with all that 600 sanity pack, I believe there's atleast 1 person in this channel that will fail (hard pity) all that essence upgrade (etching)

[plain wigeon]

mb 🙏

[amber vapor]

Her sig is worse imo compared to navigator

[elder skiff]

Yvonne got +30% crit rate and +80% crit dmg and she’s still bad, what is even crit

[amber vapor]

Because with navigator you're guaranteed more crit rate

But artzy only gives DMG inc if you hit a crit on CS or BS

[distant python]

doesnt navigator get its crit from passive though so you cant actually max compared to just having a crit substat?

[west moon]

I want to learn blender animation

So I can do funny stuff with endfield characters

[half rapids]

The optimal yvonne build is not having her in ur account

[west moon]

[west moon]

Same with ember

[elder skiff]

comparing navigator with sig for yvonne when wedge is literally there

[distant python]

nope ember is good and comfy

[potent hornet]

ember build seems decent enough

[west moon]

You just got baited by her huge ass

[ocean hawk]

"funny"

sus

[amber vapor]

The passive is +5.6% and then when you apply solidify you get 5.6% DMG + 3.2% CR multipled by 2 if you trigger the solidify

[west moon]

I swear it is not porn. At least some of my ideas

[distant python]

chest not ass

[half rapids]

Tail too big imo

[distant python]

they turned up the physics massively on ember

[ocean hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/tik-tok-meme-waiting-wait-time-gif-16450082290173148616

[elder skiff]

all tail substance should be put into ass and chest for sure

[west moon]

Avywenna personality is inspiring

[ripe parrot]

why do I get rate limited for entering umbral monument too much

[ocean hawk]

definitely

[half rapids]

Chill with the tails just give everyone bunny/cat ears/wings or horns

[amber vapor]

Too much fun being had

[ripe parrot]

after enough retries, Endfield hits me with the "This feature is not available"

cmon Endfield, both you and I know that's not true

[half rapids]

Hg said go farm

[west moon]

I had no fun on agony

[half rapids]

3rd agony stage its fun to play wheres waldo with red attack indicator

[quaint matrix]

I dunno how you farm essences but I used the website to farm similar ones and so far I got essences for: laev signature, endmin signature,thermite cutter,ardelia signature, lr signature, lifeng signature, Chen sundering steel, detonation unit, chivalric virtues. All 3/3 basically everything I ever need and all of these I got while farming for gel for 9/9/4 laev wpn

[west moon]

Bonekrusher ballista more like bonekrusher megagay

What's up with those 2k damage attacks

[amber vapor]

You farm essences by praying to rngesus

[half rapids]

Like i swear i get hit by air in that stage

[potent hornet]

thats what i have for now

[amber vapor]

The ballistas are insanely hard to notice fr

[half rapids]

Griefing hard i love it

[distant python]

🐳

[quaint matrix]

Omg… I feel painful just by looking at it

[west moon]

Don't show it to that guy who spent 50 tickets already

[quaint matrix]

Lvling imperfect essence

[drifting quest]

5/0/3

om

[ripe parrot]

why does ballista dude have no windup for push
why does ballista dude have a half second window for charged crossbow shot
why does ballista dude have almost NO animation for 3x crossbow shot

[ocean hawk]

i believe u can do it ml

[potent hornet]

i'm saving the juice i get for a perfect oner

[half rapids]

Lr too strong so they dont want atk its meta trust

[ocean hawk]

no hit agony stage 3

[ripe parrot]

it's still probably not as bad as no hit triagg but like

[drifting quest]

no hit is pretty chill

they both explode

[elder skiff]

cryo application support when, why is last rite the best applier when she’s a literal dps

[ripe parrot]

it's not that fun

at least attempts don't take long i guess

[drifting quest]

phase transitions annoying i guess

[half rapids]

Watch him get bonked in hotfix

[ripe parrot]

he's not that bad for regular attempts

[drifting quest]

another nerf has hit the endfield

[half rapids]

I hope not tho

[west moon]

How do I dps with wuldgard?

[quaint matrix]

Cryo is deadge

[half rapids]

Every game needs some bs

[west moon]

Usually it is phys teams who catches strays

[potent hornet]

what website?

[drifting quest]

its gonna be so fucking funny when people struggling on this umbral have to fight the actually annoying enemies

[west moon]

Building lava team will probably take a month or so

[elder skiff]

people genuinely struggling on umbral when perfect dodge gives you like 2 years worth of iframes

[quaint matrix]

I’ll dm you it I dunno if we’re allowed to post links here for 3rd party websites

[elder skiff]

most generous dodge i’ve ever seen

[west moon]

I'm just running around. 10 minutes is pretty generous

No need for haste, unless it is fucking damage mist

[amber vapor]

I'm assuming later agony umbrals will be boss rushes

[potent hornet]

kk

[elder skiff]

yvonne upscale when

[west moon]

Her ass is already too big

[elder skiff]

never big enough

or nerf her assets so she can move during ult

seems like its weight is too much that she has to stand still

[west moon]

Just give her damage immunity so she doesn't gets interrupted

[half rapids]

Any predictions when Lae will get powercrept

[ripe parrot]

hp left before i got hit

[west moon]

Imagine a character whose kit is based around PD

That would be fun

[west moon]

1.3

That's when fangyi released apparently

[elder skiff]

buff her so that her assets’ elasticity bounce back every attacks and she’s gonna be good

[half rapids]

Fangyi is gonna mog

[distant python]

why dodge when can brute force with healing and shields

[half rapids]

But if lae gets better teammates...

[west moon]

Too bad I'm not pulling her

I want Lycia

She's kinda bad

[distant python]

i got my perfect essence for ember

[west moon]

No need for deadweight when you can just dodge

[distant python]

life is good

[west moon]

lifeng?

[warm galleon]

Well we all know for sure that limited support could only work for certain team, so if we put that on equation it's pretty hard to tell.

[west moon]

Kinda mid

[drifting quest]

powercrept in what way
if you mean purely as the best team then she already is

[distant python]

dodging take effort, theres no real time limit

[drifting quest]

as a fire hypercarry? 6-12mo

[elder skiff]

can’t be bothered to build ember or investing sufficient amount of resource for supports and healers

[distant python]

gaming

[elder skiff]

attacking is the best way of defending

just nuke everything before it kills you

[west moon]

Horizontal powercreep is too hard for gryphline prob

You need more than copying genshin scheme to succeed

[distant python]

requires more investment than just building will on ardelia

or going lynx set on ember if you really want

i have built her for finsiher/stagger though

[half rapids]

Theyll succeed once they remove origeo scaling on refresh

[west moon]

Is there arguably worst team you can build? No synergies, no combos, no procs

[frigid vector]

that's actually kinda hard if you think about it lmao

[warm galleon]

We all know dodging will be optional in the future
Until they can hit 20k hp that shatters barriers and need protection buff to tank it

[distant python]

flourite wolfguard, endmin, avywenna

[west moon]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-big-brain-meme-gif-27667677

Average 20 authority team

[half rapids]

They need to make content that just straight 1shots u if no dodge

[elder skiff]

endmin to chen cause endmin can actually deal damage in that team for wtv reason

[frigid vector]

endmin would technically buff team as well

[distant python]

there is 0 way to proc avywenna combo skill, there is no electric infliction

[frigid vector]

with p2

chen probably the way since she'd build stacks but there'd be no-one in the team to trigger it

[warm galleon]

Give LR gears to snowshine, they use the same stats

[west moon]

Nice, now we need someone to trim marble with this team lol

I know bilibili community can do it

[frigid vector]

she gets it on ult

returning it iirc

[distant python]

no there is almost 0 way to proc fluorite and actually 0 way to proc avy, i need a better replacement for wulfguard

[elder skiff]

just mass put a complaint that we can’t clear marble with that team and they will nerf the boss fs

[frigid vector]

when you call back the thunderlance ex it should inflict elec

so she could get electrification through with it

[distant python]

how are you building ult

[west moon]

It inflicts only elec susc?

[ripe parrot]

well chen can probably trim marble by herself

[west moon]

Or am I missing something

[frigid vector]

should be infliction I think? let's see

[ripe parrot]

so you can just do point chen and have everyone else do nothing

[distant python]

its infliction, but you dont build ult cause you cant combo or use battle skill

[ripe parrot]

but I guess that goes against the spirit of the challenge lol

[frigid vector]

so ye it's infliction

[west moon]

I like how sundering steel surpasses rapid ascent and aspirant while being the ugliest mf to exist

[frigid vector]

wouldn't

arclight work there better as a no synergy pick

[distant python]

i put in avy

so we cant have arclight

[elder skiff]

avy to arc

[frigid vector]

I meant instead of avy

[west moon]

She can prock her kit, kinda

[frigid vector]

use arclight

[west moon]

With ultimate she gets electrif, combo and battle

[elder skiff]

full support team is worse than having like 1 dps there who can do some work

[frigid vector]

would only be through ult as well that she gets it

[plain wigeon]

lk though what does arc do?
I never see her apply electric vulnerability

[proper walrus]

ok is sustainless physical no longer viable in the new endgame hard mode?

[distant python]

same as avy, but avy literally cant use skill to build ult until she has lance

[elder skiff]

arc gives sp and electric dmg buff

[frigid vector]

you can still use bskill without spears

[elder skiff]

no one in that team doing stuff with arc

[west moon]

She's support slave in avy team. Consumes electrification for execution and sp recover on combo

[half rapids]

What stage

[west moon]

Also wildland trekker

[proper walrus]

gas

[frigid vector]

I guess avy would be a less synergistic pick simply because couldn't ever trigger any buffs via gear

[half rapids]

Do more dmg

Idk

[west moon]

Can buff electric damage of whole squad by 60% or so

[frigid vector]

well, ish, I guess ult

[proper walrus]

the gas damages you over time

[frigid vector]

with xiranite

😔

[half rapids]

But yea ur hard countered by gas

[proper walrus]

so ember is officially better than lifeng for physical teams?

[distant python]

wulfguard needs replacement, combo is too easy to proc

[west moon]

Akekuri

[ripe parrot]

it's fine i just trimmed with no issues on sustainless phys

[west moon]

This team almost has no stagger

[plain wigeon]

is she mandatory for avy

[soft tendon]

already? that was fast

[proper walrus]

how did you survive the gas?

[half rapids]

Idk if 1 stage mechanic makes the entire team shit but whatever makes u happy

[ripe parrot]

i just killed them?

[west moon]

And there's no point in applying heat

[distant python]

akekrui is too general, ult will be good, and procs combo through stagger

[drifting quest]

Powercrept might be misleading, better to say she never was the best

[proper walrus]

but i thought the gas wipes your team without a sustain

[ripe parrot]

if you're slow

[half rapids]

Not if u kill fast

[rugged vale]

takes a long time to kill

[elder skiff]

akekuri before catcher wow

[west moon]

Fair. What about Yvonne on a team?

She's literally useless by herself

[distant python]

then i would need to swap out flourite

[west moon]

Makes sense

[distant python]

fluorite is here because her combo is miserble to proc solo

[elder skiff]

no need to swap out flourite though, yvonne can’t inflict cryo

[soft tendon]

is there a general consensus for the best team or is it just like "everyones good but nothing that makes them concretely better"

[west moon]

2 battle skills for 1 combo, true

[distant python]

oh we swap endmin for ember btw

[west moon]

We've got few main teams competing

Lava, LR, Endmin, Avy

Yvonne is out of the picture

[elder skiff]

ember will make that team survives though, so it will be a stalling team instead of just being useless

[drifting quest]

Depends on content and what you want to do
Speedrun with prep time? Avywenna
Consistent sgt dpr? Physical
Yada yada yada

[distant python]

time wasting is worse than simply dying

[soft tendon]

makes sense

[elder skiff]

time wasting might help you win but simply dying doesn’t

[distant python]

hmmm

maybe pog angle?

instead of ember

cuase breach will do literally nothing

[soft tendon]

im assuming sgt dpr = single target dmg per round?

[drifting quest]

Per rotation

[west moon]

Actually, why don't we add antal?

Then we would have to swap wulfgard though

[distant python]

swap wulfguard is fine

wulfguard combo too easy to proc

[west moon]

Antal, Fluorite, Pogr, Chen

Can we make it worse?

[ornate pendant]

How much is a rotation

Like one cycle of skills

[distant python]

antal fluorite have synergy

bad

[west moon]

You mean lorewise?

[elder skiff]

pog to uh catcher

[distant python]

this gives flourite her combo

[west moon]

Oh, I thought that antal takes only heat and electr

[elder skiff]

antal to arclight

no one using the elec dmg bonus and no inflicts for combo skill

[west moon]

Arclight, Fluorite, Catcher, Chen

[distant python]

perhaps avy over arclight, but doesnt make much difference

[elder skiff]

avy does damage, arc doesn’t

[distant python]

avy needs spears to do damage

she has no spears

[elder skiff]

stall until ult for dmg i guess

more than arclight can ever do nonetheless

[distant python]

hmm

true

wait

why arent we using lava

instead of chen

lava actually does nothing without heat infliction

[elder skiff]

i don’t think we should consider any dps cause they can somewhat do damage

[distant python]

lava needs stacks to do damage

and she doestn get stacks

[elder skiff]

lava skill can inflict heat herself and at one point it gonna become 4 stacks

and big dmg

[distant python]

4 sp later with no regen

okay

[elder skiff]

still technically work though

[distant python]

but you sac all the teambuffs

that somone like catcher could give

with xiranite

[elder skiff]

lava and lr are 2 dpses that can operate solo because they can apply inflictions themselves though, so they have to be the first to be out of the conversation tbf

[thorn shore]

whyre we tryna fix such a team comp with just one char change

dump that shit entirely

[elder skiff]

a team comp that can’t work

[west moon]

It is actually harder to build than team that somewhat works

[icy minnow]

Actual theory crafting

[west moon]

To score 0/100 on exam you need to know all right answers

[gritty olive]

It doesnt

She just gets magma stacks every skill usage

[elder skiff]

o yea

no inflict

but 4 stacks still big dmg

[gritty olive]

Her only inflitctiom is n3 enhanced basic

[elder skiff]

hm

still

[icy minnow]

Same difference though, she's too self-sufficient

[elder skiff]

4 normal bs + 1 enhanced bs -> combust -> cs, and like 2-3 of this rotations gonna give her ult

not as self-sufficient as lr but still works ig

[west moon]

You still can do story with this team probably

[eternal ruin]

how much atk am i missing out on by not having strength artificed?

should i at least artifice strength on the chestpiece?

for laev

[gritty olive]

are you willing to go for ultspam

[eternal ruin]

i have ultspam already

[gritty olive]

Id artifice strength

[eternal ruin]

alr

[gritty olive]

If you dont mind wasting the artificers potentially on future units

[quaint matrix]

Man I’ve been thinking,like what’s the point of minmaxing if the content is so trivial. Like even with no artificed gear and maxed essence umbral is still so easy

[gritty olive]

do you want an integtrated strategies equivalemt

[edgy crater]

which is equivalent

[gritty olive]

Arbor

Elemental damage

[edgy crater]

[amber vapor]

Because the content in a gacha is designed to be easy

[edgy crater]

yeah no

[amber vapor]

You minmax because you want to, not because you need to

You've poisoned your expectations from playing to much whale-centric hoyoslop

[ripe parrot]

I like to minmax to enable funny challenges

[eternal ruin]

i max my characters for the screenshot /s

[ripe parrot]

I do enjoy the fact that there's a ton of skill expression in this game, so things like minmaxing just get me to the highest end of that

[gritty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/mizuki-gif-16902487653241244522

[amber vapor]

Skill expression because you can't turn your brain off and mash but yes

[ripe parrot]

there are a lot of minor things you can do

like the difference between someone who semi-optimizes vs doing full optimization is like a crazy range

[gritty olive]

Istg i think people who whines about gacha game combat being very basic wants to do tekken type of combos

Go play those instead

[drifting quest]

I like endfields

Not too simple, not too complex

[ripe parrot]

It has a good middle ground with a high skill floor and a decently high skill ceiling

[thorn shore]

ok there is NOT a high skill floor

[ripe parrot]

Is it not? In terms of mechanically-intensive combat, you can get pretty lazy with Endfield.

The leeway to do things and combo and whatnot are generous

you don't really get unc checked that bad in this game

[thorn shore]

high skill floor means you need to be highly skilled to perform at a base level

[drifting quest]

Low skill floor
Med to high skill ceiling

[gritty olive]

i believe high skill floor to “learn” the actual rots

[ripe parrot]

oh I meant the opposite. low skill floor, sorry

I just mixed the term up

[gritty olive]

Lets just not use jargons

For clarity fr

Low knowledge barrier for damage
Potentially high skill expression

[indigo cobalt]

Is this additive or multiplicative with other things like attack increases from main/secondary atributes etc ?

[gritty olive]

Effectively multiplicative

[drifting quest]

Stat based attack% is multiplicative
Other 'external' attack percent is additive

[gritty olive]

[baseatk * (1+baseatk%) * (1+conditionalatk%) + flat attack] * [1+attribute attack%]

It goes on the base atk% portion

[indigo cobalt]

Thanks, that's what I wanted to know

[gritty olive]

If we remove flat atk, then all of them are multiplicative to each other, but same buff = additive to each other

[drifting quest]

Is it multiplicative with stanza and thermite effects

Huh

[amber vapor]

I can't believe a game designed to be played on a phone that releases characters often with varied kits doesn't have a complex combo system involving multiple buttons to press.

[drifting quest]

I gotta double check some calcs tomorrow

[amber vapor]

More buttons = better combat mfs when they still struggle to do DMG with two buttons

[quaint matrix]

I don’t play hoyo games. The only gacha I played recently was wuwa. I enjoyed quickswapping there but got bored at the end

The problem with that game for me is that I kinda want some of the new characters and build them and play around but I’m so tired of echo grind, the general routine there like dailies,open world exploration and events. It felt good once but now it’s just a chore. Boring and not enjoyable anymore

[midnight stirrup]

Managed to max out Det Unit to 6/6 without using cooling gel

Goodge

Can keep it for my LR when I get my essence in a billion years

[bronze plume]

finally max pot wulfgard

[midnight stirrup]

Oh shit

God of War 1-3 Remake is official

[bronze plume]

bro this game is wack

the 2 free pulls today

gave me a stupid ass 6 star

but idk if i should be mad or not

who invited you

literally just missing ember now'

holy dodge

[tight haven]

account sadly bricked

[tight haven]

LMAOOO SAME

i have gotten like uhh

[bronze plume]

i shoulda got ember from the selector for the gang

but alas pot1 ardelia

[tight haven]

20 6* so far

no ember

[bronze plume]

shes staying lvl 1 icl

no point leveling cuz you dont get standard pulls from promotions unlike 99% of other gacha games

[tight haven]

im probs gonna e4 her soon

just for her dijiang skills

[bronze plume]

im just working on essence atm

going to max the support of clannibal then full max ards and laevs essence

[tight haven]

i actually did get an yvonne sig essence randomly

hm

[echo crown]

Been hearing that Ember is now the danjin of arknights

[rare nimbus]

Shes dope I love her. Almost done with the wedge. but im also farming the essence for her BiS weapon that comes out in the next week and a half

[bronze plume]

congrats i guess

[wicked cipher]

I mean she isn't really thaaat bad herself no? it's just that her teams suck ass and needs more units

[bronze plume]

i just dont like her its not a matter of her being good or bad

[elder skiff]

is wedge or sig better for yvonne though, wedge effect is always guaranteed to activate but her sig requires crit on BS or CS which is normally ~60%

[quaint matrix]

Brother. Im really sorry for announcing this horrific truth. But it’s over for you. Account forever bricked. There is no turning back from this

[elder skiff]

i don't really like her sig tbh

[wicked cipher]

Well yeah that's a different matter

[tight haven]

sig is about 20% better

assuming a team of xaihi gil lr iirc

[bronze plume]

is wedge better then nav for her even?

[tight haven]

though i still feel like lr yvonne is bait

[tight haven]

no

[edgy crater]

it is a bait

u just end up using yvonne on 3 lr op

[tight haven]

at p0 vs p0 i believe wedge is SLIGHTLY better

[bronze plume]

poor bp weapons bro

[tight haven]

but since its cheap to p2 nav it just wins

[tight haven]

yeah i really do believe akekuri is literally just better idk

or perlica

[bronze plume]

lr as in last rite?

[summer flower]

will we have later operators with rifles instead of handcannons?

[edgy crater]

probably, is there any new record regarding those team? as the last one i know is 1m ulti lr lmao, while yvonne deal like 800k i think

[rustic knoll]

some1 give me an essence 101

[tight haven]

yvonne can definitely reach over 1m

[edgy crater]

n dat with assumption, lr as subdps

[tight haven]

if you cant its an investment issue

[edgy crater]

[tight haven]

oh

yeah

yeah.

lr just trashes yvonne in every use case

its embarrassing for her

[edgy crater]

from current record, yeah

[gritty olive]

Theres a site that gives you which essence farm you should farm based on your weap

https://endfieldtools.dev/weapon-essence-solver/

[mild quarry]

Or just look at the pins in #team-build

[rustic knoll]

so there is this

[rare nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIU3kcdl60

[rustic knoll]

i understand i have to farm for like 3 stats i want , bu what is a pre engrave etc

[rare nimbus]

watch the video I sent, he goes over everything

[bronze plume]

pre engrave just lets you select the stats you want it to roll into and it will always roll those stats

[dawn patrol]

hi chat

[rustic knoll]

alr will do

[rare nimbus]

but it only allows u to select 3 attribute stats and either 1 secondary stat or skill stat. so its still RNG at the end of the day but with a slightly better chance to get what u need

[gritty olive]

Without it

Chance from around 1/24 drops to 1/4096 or smth

[rare nimbus]

shiny pokemon odds

[lost raft]

Is Detonation Unit universal or "ok-ish"?

[bronze plume]

tldr use engraving if going for a 3/3 essence dont use them if you just farming em for etching

[rustic knoll]

i see so i pick a few stats i would like (use the cheat sheet to know what i am looking for) , i have a 1/24 chance to hit, once i hit the jackpot, i dump other shit i nto it till its maxed

ye?

[rare nimbus]

etching will be the death of me

[summer flower]

which healer for phys team?

[bronze plume]

yuh

[dawn patrol]

real

[bronze plume]

supporter weapons dont really need anything besides the last stat since support ops dmg doesnt really matter

[rustic knoll]

i see and how much typically do u need to spend for upgrades till a maxxed BIS essence?

[dawn patrol]

a lot

[rare nimbus]

yea, and the cool thing is that u can either lock it so it wont be used or mark it as trash so u know whats waste and whats not

[dawn patrol]

ion even have one yet so

[bronze plume]

probably over 100

[rustic knoll]

so u infuse 100 golds into it roughly ?

[dawn patrol]

at least 4

[bronze plume]

hitting the 8/9 etch is like a 1% chance

[neat snow]

But once you max the essence the weapon will glow 🙂

[bronze plume]

45 failed attempts gives the coolant to max it

thats 90 on just the last 2 alone

[rare nimbus]

this one alone I spent about 50 trash essence's and its still not done

[bronze plume]

50 on just +4 +4 +2 is rough

[rare nimbus]

yea RNG was not on my side

[rustic knoll]

when you etch do u have to have a matching stat to etch or can it be ANY of same colour

[neat snow]

Just gold

[bronze plume]

any

[rare nimbus]

even at high rate I still failed it like 6 times lmao

[rustic knoll]

ok so its basically the exact same gimmick as artificing but ur stamina locked instead of wuling bill locked

[dawn patrol]

i'm at 4/5/3 on my scathe and it's so soul draining

[bronze plume]

pretty much

my laev is 8/9/3 and im losing it

[rustic knoll]

im finna farm kravenger essence even tho i dont have kravenger 🤣

[bronze plume]

only need 60 coolant for the 450 tho

[dawn patrol]

you're basically there already

[elder skiff]

got lucky on the etching and still took me like 15 days worth of essence farming for a 6/6/3 for scathe so it's gonna be worse for other weps

[dawn patrol]

60 is just one double run

[bronze plume]

that is how math work yes

[rare nimbus]

but before you get rid of all your other essences check to see if u have any other ones that may work for some other weapons. I found like 6 that work for some other 5 / 6 star weapons so i locked them for now

[thorn shore]

whats ake ult gain breakpoints? worth fort over thermite?\

[rustic knoll]

kk preciate you

and at what point do u use coolant gel, for the final hit on each stat?

[bronze plume]

i only use it for the final and 8/9

[rustic knoll]

kk

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[bronze plume]

my main 2 are this so far

[rustic knoll]

and w this

why are there some weapons named twice

like there are 2 kravengers with LR on both of them

[bronze plume]

because theres more then 1 place you can get them

[elder skiff]

you're farming for ard as well? i only got a +3 inf purple for her and called it a day lol

[bronze plume]

read my name

[elder skiff]

oh yea

[rustic knoll]

am i tripping the chart doesnt show drop locations just what the weapon wants

[elder skiff]

[dawn patrol]

that treatment efficiency must go crazy though

[gritty olive]

beef

I almost completed those sims

[bronze plume]

i have no idea if theres a area for the locations i havent used that chart

[edgy crater]

essence? u can see it ingame

essence doc solely to simplified ur process, but all infor already ingame if u try to read

[edgy crater]

max on 45% lol

[rustic knoll]

i meant like what is the diff between the 2 circled its the exact same info unless i missed sum

[bronze plume]

629 atm

per dolly

[west moon]

Secondary vs ability

read the damn excel table 🥀

[bronze plume]

slowly but surely

[edgy crater]

or dat

[dawn patrol]

per heal? that's like double mine LOL

[edgy crater]

w8, dats really high

mine only 547

[rustic knoll]

i do NOT understand

[bronze plume]

its engraving atk% over detonate

[west moon]

Screw it, you need essense of reading comprehension 😭

[blazing lake]

@rare rover did you get your trim

it was pretty easy

[bronze plume]

8/9 on the treatment eff of her weapon moment

[rare rover]

15 min trim

[potent hornet]

p3 LR LETS GOOOOO

[rustic knoll]

? theres no colour key, u cannot expect a person who does not know what the definitions are to know what it means

[blazing lake]

yeah idk

they should've made this harder somehow

phy team and surtr nuke clears

[edgy crater]

nah, its already 363, but my ardel still e3 60

[bronze plume]

thatll also happen

mines 785 and level 90 wep and ard

[edgy crater]

[bronze plume]

im also using the boneruksha chest piece for the ult gain not xiranite cuz its main stat will

[blazing lake]

literally 99% of the playerbase perhaps

[dawn patrol]

the m7 ard is actually killing me wdym you m1'd her basic

[edgy crater]

80% ulti gain? same lol

[bronze plume]

shes going to be m12 gang

[floral cosmos]

question about phys team gear

im running endmin with sig, lifeng p1 with sig, pog with thermite, and p5 chen with sundering steel. im reading prydwen and its saying all of endmin/chen/lifeng should be on swordmancer, should i do that or does someone want bonekrusha?

[west moon]

prydwen

[potent hornet]

neat and p5 detonator

[west moon]

J

[blazing lake]

i got pinged

#letmeknow

[bronze plume]

much wow

[summer flower]

okay gas done, duo done, time for immobile to be done

[floral cosmos]

soooo all on swordmancer huh? lol

[summer flower]

yea no

its not that good

[rustic knoll]

ts is depressing

[distant python]

Immobile is the most aids one

[summer flower]

swordmancer ember feels pretty nice? but i dont feel much of increase from other guys

[distant python]

Swordmancer ember

Seems miserable

[bronze plume]

tbf

ember

[distant python]

Incorrect substats

[summer flower]

ehh, a lot of stagger

[bronze plume]

is miserable

[distant python]

I guess if you are going pure stagger

[summer flower]

but on rest of team it feels bad

[distant python]

And sacking all damage output

[bronze plume]

ember does dmg?

[distant python]

Ye

[bronze plume]

oh yeah i get it

[distant python]

Basic attack and finisher's

[bronze plume]

account dmg

🥀

[distant python]

Ember is probably the best basic attack user

[elder skiff]

ember will deal dmg at p5, im half way through

[distant python]

Every other character kinda wants to skill a decent bit

Ember skill is

Quite bad

Tbh

[elder skiff]

10% atk gonna carry her dmg or smth

[bronze plume]

thats just because

ember is bad

[distant python]

Left click with sundered

Good stagger

Ult is nice

Combo can be nice to force a proc and extra vulnerable stacks

[quaint matrix]

it woudl've been so much better if it was a teamwide buff

[elder skiff]

teamwide buff would make even more sense considering she fits in the phys team

buffing only the wielder is so weird

[quaint matrix]

yeah

[summer flower]

yea, i'm considering crit set

[quaint matrix]

she could be descent with p5 and teamwide buff

[summer flower]

with sundered

but i would need a freaking essence to be correct

man, i wonder how to equip ardelia for best healing

[elder skiff]

the forbidden ardelia lynx set

[bronze plume]

if you want pure healing you just

use lynx

[distant python]

Crit ember

Devious work

[summer flower]

its because of sundered

[distant python]

Yeah

[summer flower]

i took sundered instead of other option

[distant python]

Yep

[summer flower]

due to other option occupying same box as jet

[distant python]

Same

[tough coral]

I WISH ZFY IS LEAKED SO I CAN THEORYCRAFT

[distant python]

How much crit can you get from security set

[rustic knoll]

fr i wanna pull gilberta if shes good with zhuang but we dont know 😭

[tough coral]

how many pulls ya got

[distant python]

And are the substats even usable

[rustic knoll]

170

[tough coral]

i pulled e1 with 40 bc i just like gil

i think she'll be great with zhuang

(im coping)

[rustic knoll]

pre sure some not official leaks said she has an aoe ability so grouping will be nice

[tough coral]

bc electro and nature dont interfere with each other

i mean a lot of the current ops benefit from grouping

so i think gil will last a long time

[rustic knoll]

and even if i get gil now she will just be collecting dust cuz my only team rn is last rite

[tough coral]

gil is rlly good for last rite team tho

u sure?

[rustic knoll]

how can u fit her in

i guess replace ardelia ?

[summer flower]

?

[tough coral]

yes

[summer flower]

so for perlica + avyenna i could slap two natures?

[ripe parrot]

god damn it took so long but i finally did it

super sloppy though

almost panicked and threw really hard at the end

[drifting berry]

I think Gilberta doesn't have uses on Last Rite team outside of 1 rotation kill.

If I'm correct because Gilberta ult applies Nature and this messes up with cryo application once you start the next rotation, forcing you to waste an skill just to clear the nature infliction. Still viable probably

[tough coral]

replace ardelia, her M1 ultimate has 30% art debuff for 5s

[drifting berry]

Ardelia doesn't apply nature so she doesn't have this problem

[tough coral]

and then her BIS gives you arts dmg bonus up to 40% i think

[edgy crater]

more like one shot nuke

[tough coral]

yea gil is used more for one shot nuke