theorycrafting

[twilit quail]

we apply 1 stack of nature

[foggy birch]

Whats a good weapon for perlica in this team

[twilit quail]

we freeze them

we activate estella and gil combo

chen bs cs for 4 stacks

[frozen tide]

Does shatter do elemental?

[twilit quail]

phys

[frozen tide]

Ig stanza

[twilit quail]

and it's less dmg% than crush

the advantage over alesh is that you build more stacks and you dont have to use alesh

[amber vapor]

Shatter shoulda been a guaranteed crit thing don't @ me

[lime bear]

shatter team

[twilit quail]

like it legitimately functions fine

[brisk pecan]

it requires 3 elements kinda so it should've been stronger i feel

[drifting quest]

'the advantage over alesh is that you ... don't have to use alesh'

cinema

[twilit quail]

gil there

it's not amazing or anything

[amber vapor]

But gambling is fun

[twilit quail]

but it's much better than the others there

[frozen tide]

What is the definition of function

Used here

[amber vapor]

It works

[twilit quail]

it can do a good cycle

wehre the team's resources are mostly used productively

[frozen tide]

I see

What's the worst you'd say then

Out of the four

[twilit quail]

the 0 pulls challenge one

for obvious reasons

[amber vapor]

0 pulls but no wulf

Wtf

[frozen tide]

Chen ard per endmin?

[twilit quail]

yes

[frozen tide]

Perlica does do nothing there

Ardelia is whatever ig

And chen endmin

Where do you get sp

Or stacks

[twilit quail]

epic rotation

chen bs bs bs

[swift tundra]

Out of all the status effects, which one deals the most damage at lvl 90? Trying to figure out what is worth building around arts intensity.

[frozen tide]

Arts intensity scales with everything even physical stuff

[foggy birch]

Guys for supports is it worth it to raise their weapons to lvl 80? Or just focus on essences?

[frozen tide]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?usp=drivesdk

[twilit quail]

if your supports need to unlock 9th pip on first two lines it's worth

like fortmaker or obj ult gain

[frozen tide]

This document has an arts intensity section and the games attribute tab if you hover over question mark next to intensity it tells you quite a bit too

[swift tundra]

I need numbers on the status effects. Ie, if knockdown hits harder than lift at 0 arts intensity then knockdown>lift.

[frozen tide]

The doc has numbers on that

[amber vapor]

Schling why do you still have the "new" role

[frozen tide]

I bought it

Its available in the bot shop

Isn't the leaf cute

:3

[amber vapor]

[foggy birch]

I seeee

Just cleared agony with tutorial team lmao

[swift tundra]

It seems most of the status effects are equal in numbers. Feels kind of disappointing even though less thinking involved.

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah that was easy

Last stage in agony was a little aggressive but nothing difficult

[quaint matrix]

yeah,this mode is a joke. but i can say that in 3rd room mobs hit pretty hard

had to use 1 braincell on dodging

[midnight stirrup]

@frozen tide Did another 2 tickets

Still no essence

Fuck ahh game

[quaint matrix]

so how much pulls we got from that mode?

[twilit quail]

like 2

[frozen tide]

😭

[midnight stirrup]

Also realised I never upgraded my stock distribution in lodespring

L O L

[daring dove]

Yep, now hurry up an get your ultimate weapon trim

[midnight stirrup]

IM TRYING

Schling did the calcs

Im the most unlucky person ever not getting LR essence

[drifting quest]

2.4 pulls / umbral
4.8 this patch
assumedly 7.2 every normal patch

[dire nymph]

wait wat

[midnight stirrup]

Spent like 1.5-2k sanity nothing

[dire nymph]

i thought u already had it

[daring dove]

[dire nymph]

thats fucked

[midnight stirrup]

I dont

[quaint matrix]

man i'm sitting on 200 pulls now and i need to contain my urge on pulling stupid characters i will never use

ffs

[midnight stirrup]

Im about to finish artificing my gear faster than getting an essence watch

[drifting quest]

it takes 50 umbral monument cycles (100 weeks) to guarantee 1 limited unit (120 pulls)

[daring dove]

That's pretty bad I have LR essence an it was like 6th or 7th on my essence priority list.

[drifting quest]

2 years to 1 unit

[midnight stirrup]

Nah fr

I have like

1200 cooling gel

Ready

[amber vapor]

Desire sensor go brrr

[midnight stirrup]

I mean game didnt care where I desired p5r5

[frozen tide]

Its luck karma

[midnight stirrup]

Its rly true when they say u either have gacha luck or artifact luck

Im the gacha lucker

[drifting quest]

fwiw this is only 7 weeks slower than hoyo/kuro style gacha on their old/current systems
160 pulls to guarantee, ~3.75 pulls per cycle
(~43 weeks to guarantee 1 unit)

[frozen tide]

Theres still slots left for permanent events

The tab has vacancies

[midnight stirrup]

I wonder when the 2nd half of uh

[drifting quest]

1 more slot

[midnight stirrup]

Monument is

[drifting quest]

2nd monument this patch is 26th

[amber vapor]

Etchspace and Umbral

[midnight stirrup]

Oh big

[drifting quest]

future patches presumably have 3

[amber vapor]

What's next

[midnight stirrup]

Wait

[drifting quest]

no more permanent event this patch afaik

[midnight stirrup]

Doesnt re9 come out the 26th

[dire nymph]

heard smt abt it being moved to the 22nd but its a dubious source

[midnight stirrup]

No monument for me

[drifting quest]

idk

[dire nymph]

prob just 26th

[drifting quest]

the official calender says 26th

[quaint matrix]

wow,that's awesome. i'm really happy that developers are such a generous ppl

[daring dove]

Do it yay or nay? Seem very expensive for 2 more SP gain.

[drifting quest]

about on par with the industry average

whether you like that or not

[daring dove]

I suppose I should just do it, then I can consider Akekuri done?

[amber vapor]

Akekuri gonna become the Bennet of this game

[quaint matrix]

i think we can have a final statement by the end of 1.1. the honeymoon is over and we gonna see an actual pull/patch value

and if it's less than 90 it's rOver

[amber vapor]

I expect a premium 10 pull after every maintenance then

[frozen tide]

Shes behind on pace

Bennet held stronger even much later in the games cycle

[quaint matrix]

guys

how much pulls per patch we consider good?

what do ya'll think?

don't fucking say atleast 300

[amber vapor]

Ideally? 100 pulls

In reality, prolly gonna be 50-60

[drifting quest]

minimum 60, ideally 80-100

120 would be very appreciated

[quaint matrix]

we're talking about f2p or bp+monthly?

[drifting quest]

f2p

[manic blade]

How strong is gilb p5

[amber vapor]

Yeah full f2p, just doing all available content

[drifting quest]

damage potential so depends on overall investment and plans for gilb

[amber vapor]

This includes login bonuses and such

[drifting quest]

certainly not worth the pulls to get to it

[quaint matrix]

the dailies are so ass

even with monthly its 380/day

34 pulls per if we assume patch is 45 days with monthly+dailies

so we're missing another 70

[tight haven]

not that good

[daring dove]

Sod it I'mma max her combo trigger so it becomes 9 second CD as well, she is best girl after all.

[tight haven]

id consider p2-4 more impactful for her rotations/teamplay capabilities

p1 is nice qol ig

[drifting quest]

p2 is tempting for me to try for

[amber vapor]

They have been giving out a lot of crowns... But idk if it's worth spending all of them

[tight haven]

p2 is very nice i will say

[amber vapor]

I'm not touching lvl 90 or any masteries till Fangyi

[tight haven]

i still feel like her ult lasts a little too short but i get its a balancing decision

the debuff is silly strong

[daring dove]

I figure once I'm done with Akekuri that's my entire team complete other than artificing. So I'll just do it then I can start building a second team.

[tight haven]

ive spent a crazy amount on mats and i havent been able to use them all yet

i have 16 (+2 more tomorrow) to spend probably on lifeng

gonna m3 his basics, bskill, ult

[amber vapor]

Outside of your main dps I expect supports to be flexible in the future anyway, and akekuri's ult and cs are nice in most teams so

[tight haven]

protohedrons and credits are huge progress hindrances though

still takes ages to scrounge them up

[amber vapor]

Yeah that's the rate limiting factor

For obvious reasons

They want you to spend as much time as possible

[drifting quest]

protohedrons are so slow to grind

i bought a ton from the aic store too

[daring dove]

Yep, I have been playing for nearly a month + a whale so able to buy a alot of resources with store credits. An I feel like in 2-3 more days I'll have finally completed my first team outside of artifcing.

[tight haven]

80 san = 34k tc is uh

not great

but its fine i guess

im already onto my 2nd team myself

pog is e3/60, chen and dapan are e2/40, lifeng is my boy so hes already e4/90 max talents r9 skills

[daring dove]

Genshin it kind of feels like you can max a character in 2-3 days once you're at end game. This game it's very different takes weeks to properly finish 1 character.

[quartz flame]

i just have 2 level 90 weapons and essences left on my physical team

[tight haven]

essences im not even fucking touching

[manic blade]

Oof well it’s okay I didn’t think I’d get p3 and 4 in 20 pulls after guarentee

[quartz flame]

and some minor stat artificing but the important stats are already artificed

[tight haven]

holy shit thats gonna take ages

[amber vapor]

All Hoyo and Wuwa are like that but then you gotta remember that the stamina sink in those games is artificats

[quartz flame]

im already at 2/4 perfect essences and i dont really need perfect fortmaker

[tight haven]

p2 and 4 are very good pots

nothing to be upset abt

p5 specifically just isnt the best

its a good pot but afaik doesnt open up any crazy new rots

[manic blade]

Does p2 only apply 3% more susceptibility?

[tight haven]

nope

it DOUBLES the susc from every stack

[quaint matrix]

i feel like i'm in such a deep ass in turns of mats. like i want to lvl ardelia and lifeng battle skills for max sus but iit's 72 fucking thingies for double lvl 13 skill

[manic blade]

That makes more sense

[tight haven]

and adds an invisible +1 stack count when calculating susc for enemies affected by her ult

so where 1 vuln p0 gilb would only do 33% susc

1 vuln p2 gilb does 42% susc

[daring dove]

That's true as well, an it is nice to have the RNG BS of most of the artifact systems removed. Outside of my artficing upgrades failing 99 times in a row.

[tight haven]

its not the craziest pot ever but its pretty nuts

[fading fog]

ngl umbral just feels incredibly ass to play

[tight haven]

very nice to pair with my p5 clannibal

[twilit quail]

clannibal

[fading fog]

I'm legit just straight up not having fun

[tight haven]

💔 when it comes up

(almost never)

[quartz flame]

i already trimmed my umbral

[tight haven]

struggling or too easy

[twilit quail]

falling asleep probably

[quartz flame]

took like 20 minutes

[manic blade]

I mean with one cycle laev can you afford to ebskill on wulf

[tight haven]

yea this first set was too mechanically simple

[tight haven]

yea

this is when it comes up

[quartz flame]

had to swap lifeng for ember for agony on the first two but it was pretty easy

[amber vapor]

Lifeng for ember...?

[manic blade]

I’d assume ard can solo sustain

[tight haven]

she can

[manic blade]

Also is it… out in NA?

[tight haven]

yes

[quartz flame]

yes

[manic blade]

Oh shi

[quartz flame]

as of an hour ago

[tight haven]

alr hit it

[amber vapor]

Yeah since 1.5hrs ago

[manic blade]

I just woke up making matcha

[tight haven]

reminds me i need to go out and buy more longjing

[daring dove]

To be honest there's zero challenge to the first two stages if you have Laevetain & Gilberta anyway.

Last one is a bit more tricky but only took 5 minutes to get used to it.

[tight haven]

gilberta shits on all of them tbh

my single target queen

dont let them tell you youre only for aoe

[manic blade]

Fk what’s her ult breakpoints again

[daring dove]

260+, which means she can use a full support set an still break it I think.

But need P4+

For P0 I think the breakpoint is different as you need to cast another skill to reach ult.

[supple epoch]

Watches one punch man murder Gilberta in 1 hit 😩

[tight haven]

will diff

slab gilb my goat...

[supple epoch]

I just took ardelia to support Gilberta 🤣

[manic blade]

[twilit quail]

I forgot to switch gear

took double slab gil in

and she got her ult fast anyway

thank you sig

very cool

[manic blade]

works if you clear every mob sub 30 sec

[supple epoch]

Gilberta only issue was that last elite mob. Idk why he always targets her for death xD

[drifting berry]

Is Gilberta dps a thing now

[peak void]

i require an akekuri ult charge breakpoint to waste my artificing catalysts towards

[supple epoch]

A.I just eating those punches lol

[twilit quail]

there is one extremely evil one

at 220.5%

but you cant get it without fort

[peak void]

well nvm dreams ruined

[daring dove]

That's my team for 99% of content, I only use Wulfguard when the fight is almost entirely ST. So I agree Gilberta is kind of goated.

[tight haven]

watching 40% of this stupid ballista fuckers hp bar get ethered when i ult+combo on gilb

[manic blade]

did u m3 cskill

[tight haven]

ofc

fake gilb fans wouldnt...

[manic blade]

bit broke after m3 x4 laev and double ake

ill get there

[drifting quest]

M2 pog
M12 chen
M6 endmin
M9 lifeng

I suppose i skip endmin

[mystic halo]

outdamaged by surtr Im afraid

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-arknights-just-use-surtr-gif-24975177

[shadow ingot]

Is Buck capsule better or syringe

[drifting berry]

Gonna get double Slab on Gilberta now I guess 🔥

4 supports comp

[mystic halo]

it's kinda schnasty

[arctic valve]

why is my unbuilt Endmin hitting 70k Crushes wtf 😭

how is this team considered T1

[lime nacelle]

Syringe.

[shadow ingot]

why

[daring dove]

Syringe is better for overall healing capsule is better for emergency healing.

[lime nacelle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rookie-numbers-2

[shadow ingot]

what do you think is better

In your own opinion

[mystic halo]

crush isnt subject to the same scaling as other damage

[manic blade]

should i buy that motocrcycle from v4 shop

[lime nacelle]

Syringe is always the best because there is no scenario in which "emergency healing" beats overall better HP recovery.

[arctic valve]

is it "overload" from Genshin Impact I assume? Level + Arts Intensity fixed scaling?

[lime nacelle]

If you are getting one-shot or taking damage too fast, that's 100% on you and no amount of items should be saving you.

[mystic halo]

it's not quite the same thing there's a document floating around that explains it in english

[arctic valve]

so then, is Attack useless?

[manic blade]

pre nerf deep dive marble before you learn atk patterns :3

ok it was like one run that I just got cooked up

[daring dove]

I prefer Syringe as I can just focus on dodging if HP gets low so I prefer the better overall heal.

[drifting quest]

stew meeting

[shadow ingot]

Ty twin

[lime nacelle]

I think the only time I died was on the 3rd boss where she smacks you 3 times in a row with her weapon.

But ONLY because I was already at like 60% HP. At full HP that doesn't kill you.

[manic blade]

you will be cooked out at the end of february if you don't have 150 ginseng stews

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-12986085083782148824

[lime nacelle]

And even then, if you just don't panic, you can dodge after getting hit the first time.

[daring dove]

I have started deleting these every time I see them now they're so annoying.

[lime nacelle]

[lime nacelle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/well-done-58

[drifting quest]

cant wait for the qol to disable other peoples structures

[manic blade]

after marble nerf it's low key so free rn

[drifting quest]

i always get more annoyed by them then helped

[rare rover]

Me whenever i see a god damn random zipline on my delivery zipline path

[tight haven]

death to shared ziplines

[manic blade]

the qol thing i want first IS TURNING OFF INSUFFICIENT POWER OUTAGE! IDC!!!!!!!!!! IK WHAT IM DOING!!!!!!

[dense drift]

could someone please explain like my goal with this team? how exactly am i supposed to start a fight it feels so much worse than using estella or ardelia for ex but i keep hearing alesh and xaihi are needed for her. im still lost on why i barely do damage

[drifting quest]

maybe 1 in 100 shared ziplines have been ones i thought 'oh neat' and stolen

[drifting quest]

you gamble on alesh
and you win
if you lose the team bricks

[manic blade]

which floors do ya need ardd

[lime nacelle]

Conveniently non-existent restart button inside instances.

[drifting quest]

none

[mystic halo]

alesh sucks but he also is kind of

[manic blade]

rlly lol

[mystic halo]

the best you can do with the unit

esp starting from 0 energy

[tight haven]

if you want alesh to die just use akekuri or something

[drifting quest]

alesh is actually kinda good as long as you're always lucky

[tight haven]

but yeah hes unironically the best choice

[mystic halo]

you just dont really have anything in the slot

[tight haven]

just super frustrating

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/idle-death-gamble-domain-expansion-jjk-gif-6491542548589389366

[tight haven]

if they were gonna make him rng i wish he like

restored 100 sp

LOL

[sterile herald]

rare fish = win
else = restart

[manic blade]

lvl 60 enemiees for normal 💀

[drifting berry]

Fake gambler, he literally got 100% win rate on that

[drifting quest]

yeah because he's the goat gambler

[manic blade]

oh can you only do the first floor

[potent hornet]

i kinda hate that alesh wants to consume cryo for solidification

[bronze plume]

for now only 1st

[manic blade]

why does it say feature unavailable for all

[potent hornet]

I would love to use him in a LR cryo team

[bronze plume]

because they finna

unlock over time

[manic blade]

nvmmmm I just had to finish quest first

[bronze plume]

bro jumped the gun so fast da fuk

[frank wind]

ts was baby cakes 😭✌️

[drifting quest]

they really put the npc in one of the most annoying spots too

[sterile herald]

wish this umbral gamemode was harder i wasn’t expecting it to be this easy even on mobile bruh

[bronze plume]

they did not feel like moving bro from da spot in cbt2

i swear they went where is the furtherest spot from a tp

[frank wind]

is it the endgame version of this game or is it like js a temporary event

[bronze plume]

its the "endgame"

[sterile herald]

it’s one of the endgame modes

[drifting quest]

next event is gonna have the npc in the depths of the quarry or something

[sterile herald]

but it’ll get refreshed occasionally

hopefully with harder enemies

[drifting quest]

2 week refresh timer

[bronze plume]

there going to be on a mountain range you have to glitch zipline to

[drifting quest]

difficulty should scale

[frank wind]

isnt there more levels

[sterile herald]

give us a fight that’s just 10 nidwyrms at once

[drifting quest]

rollers

4 rollers

[sterile herald]

make them all level 100

[bronze plume]

there is more levels for umbral yes but locked for now

[sterile herald]

make them all smart and spread out the acid on the ground

cover the whole arena in acid

[drifting quest]

or like 1 rakerbeast + 1 tidalklast

[sterile herald]

2 of each miniboss ever all at the same time

[frank wind]

ok well those will probably be harder this is prolly like floor 9 in comparison ✌️

[bronze plume]

(it wont)

also wtf do you mean floor 9

[drifting quest]

2 stationary chrysopolis back to back

[bronze plume]

please dont say genshin

[daring dove]

Are these new levels or where they also in beta?

[frank wind]

like genshin

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[bronze plume]

beta showed them as unavaliable but teased the existence of them

same with etchspace salvage areas 4 5 and 6

[drifting quest]

i forgot etchspace exists

[bronze plume]

everybody does because they made it a 1 time thing

[drifting quest]

i thought it'd be something to do once a week for weekly missions but umbral is faster lmao

[bronze plume]

our only source of standard pulls btw

[manic blade]

yeah ur rlly don't ned ard they don't hit hard at all

[sterile herald]

i need more free pulls

now!

[drifting quest]

they should give make etchspace reset some rewards each week i guess

randomized stuff to submit, get a couple hundred orundum, some materials and a standard pull or two

[bronze plume]

that would be smart

shame they didnt

and also BRING BACK ME FUKING CBT1 MODE

[daring dove]

It's only really worth gathering the rare growths in Wullings & ensuring they don't overcap I guess. The ones before that are so abundant that if you ever want to build a character you can just gather them when you need them right?

[potent hornet]

ahhh i have been using ardelia wrong

oooops

combo skill first then battle skill to consume corrosion

[manic blade]

yeah

[midnight stirrup]

@frozen tide Can u show me what u have selected for the essence spot in the Hub?

[daring dove]

How do you use Ardelia wrong.

[midnight stirrup]

Maybe I selected wrong that im being cooked

[potent hornet]

using her skills improperly

[midnight stirrup]

Yea, but only after the corrosion applies. Which is a delay after her combo.

[potent hornet]

battle skill shouldn't be used unless you have the forced corrosion on the enemy

i have just been spamming it

[daring dove]

[midnight stirrup]

Basically when the cloud pink explodes, and they turn green.

[potent hornet]

i'm flying by the seat of my pants for the most part

when something doesn't start to feel right i start looking stuff up

or try to figure out why myself. i have done only some light reading on most of my characters in general

[daring dove]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-reaction-dog-zoom-gKHGnB1ml0moQdjhEJ

[potent hornet]

i approach most games this way

[tranquil burrow]

I'm here to inform everyone that consuming a higher level weapon to upgrade another ewapon weapon returns all the exp mats & credit cost over the cap of what you're upgrading except the minerals.

[potent hornet]

was this an accident?

[tranquil burrow]

No, an experiment

[twilit quail]

dude

[tranquil burrow]

Wanted to feed my lvl 80 rational farewell to clannibal since I got it from this weekly rotation

[twilit quail]

can yz stop making these

viewfarming yvonne + LR videos

it's so cringe

[drifting quest]

i should make one

[sterile herald]

i love viewslop!

[drifting quest]

level 60 yvonne + last rite trimmed umbral monument

!!

[potent hornet]

keep in mind i just got her sig from the daily sign in stuff like yesterday, so i have been running a P2 chivalric virtues to keep 100% uptime on attack dmg buff from her heals

[drifting quest]

did they patch it

can ardelia proc chiv now

[daring dove]

[twilit quail]

i love yvonne unit man

this

fucking piece of shit

and there are shitty guides on bili as well

telling people

to M3 basic after ult

[daring dove]

Ardelia can't even use Chiv as I understand.

[drifting quest]

[twilit quail]

on this character

[twilit quail]

it is deeply unserious

[winged delta]

Does procing combustion with Wulf ult count?

[drifting quest]

no, that creates not consumes

[winged delta]

hm k

[drifting quest]

wulf skill after applying combustion consumes

[manic blade]

bang

[drifting quest]

but unless you are main dps wulf its not good

[icy minnow]

The game even lights up her skill if the enemy has corrosion, it's not exactly hidden

[potent hornet]

its p1 i guess thought it was p2

[manic blade]

is the 260% breakpoint considering p4 or no

[onyx sandal]

I am trying to find the best gear set for the onfield Arclight...

[potent hornet]

she is using it just fine as far as i can tell

or are you saying that the mecant skill doesn't work with her type of heal?

[daring dove]

For Gilberta yeah

Which means you shouldn't use Seal

[tight haven]

LOL

so fucking true

[manic blade]

what armor bonekrusha?

[twilit quail]

like

I log onto

this fucking guy's account

he has

lv90 6/6/3

m6

and it's like

[manic blade]

he needs help bro

LOL

[twilit quail]

almost impossible to trim marble

[tight haven]

m3 the basic to increase her damage by 1% instead of her cskill or bskill

👍

[twilit quail]

I couldnt fucking do it

it's so bad

and because the supports

are fucking starving to death

with 0 resources

he has no dmg

[potent hornet]

are you charging people to trim for them?

[twilit quail]

because he followed this godawful guide

I dont

[drifting quest]

did you try last rite

[midnight stirrup]

[drifting quest]

she helps stack faster for yvonne

[twilit quail]

it's just random people in group chats and stuff

I gave up

after like 4 ginsengs eaten

I couldnt do it

[distant python]

I M3 my ember basic

Gaming

[hollow stag]

What's the recommended level of investment for supports?

[tight haven]

ok but look at my 2 million damage yvonne screenshot

[twilit quail]

so ice is kind of interesting in this regard

because some of the supports do deserve a fair bit of investment

[sterile herald]

upgrade level to 60/80, upgrade important skills, sometimes weapon sometimes not

[twilit quail]

xaihi 80 and m3 is quite good

[daring dove]

You'd be able to just about hit over 260 with this plus she can proc the buffs of this set. So for me that has to be BiS you're only losing about 4 ult gain by not using seal an her cap is 265.

[potent hornet]

This is my very first DnD characters name based of Ereinion or Gil-Galad from the similarian

[twilit quail]

but this yvonne unit like

I can do marble trim

with lv70 physical units

with yvonne

[tight haven]

yvonne feels fucking fake without p1

tbh

[twilit quail]

one 90 two 80s and a bunch of good essences

it is still a goddamn struggle

[manic blade]

bonekrusha has will main stat tho?

[twilit quail]

like

[tight haven]

she needs a whole ass unit that just feeds her ult somehow

[twilit quail]

the best yvonne guide I have found on bilibili

[urban plaza]

Holy shit the new game mode is so ass/underwhelming

I saved up resources in case I needed, but no
90 carry, 60 supporter easy clear lol

[daring dove]

Ah you mean for chest

[twilit quail]

is the one that has "DONT PLAY YVONNE DONT PLAY YVONNE DONT PLAY YVONNE" as its title

[daring dove]

Then sure.

[manic blade]

ya I have the same other 3 pieces

[woeful plume]

you cleared 1.0 mode... with fully invested carry? how?

[twilit quail]

this

vile sack of shit unit

[drifting quest]

i was going to pretype it

[twilit quail]

I hate it

I hate it

I hate it

[tight haven]

LOL

[twilit quail]

this THING

[tight haven]

like actually though

[quaint matrix]

accurate yvonne build

[tight haven]

i get wanting hard content but what were you expecting

its 1.0

[drifting quest]

maybe team 3 is yvonne hyper

[woeful plume]

fork found in kitchen

[drifting quest]

just to do it

[tight haven]

umbral is still a challenge for most players

[twilit quail]

and then there's the stupid goddamn yz videos

[urban plaza]

I know, i know
But still xd
I had hoped for a little bit more than 10 min adventure

[sterile herald]

tire found on car

[woeful plume]

umbral has the time but the mobs hit pretty hard ngl

[twilit quail]

so people are going around with their

lv80 lr + yvonne

and bricking after rotation 1

and complaining about the game

[tight haven]

yea youre far more likely to die than time out

[twilit quail]

like

[drifting quest]

its been funny to see some of the waifu over meta players complain umbral monument is too hard

[twilit quail]

this game would unironically be better without her in it

I'm so done with this shit

[distant python]

Good design

[tight haven]

the time limit shouldnt even exist imho

its silly

[distant python]

10mins

Is fair

[tight haven]

basically only gating solo runs

[manic blade]

ember catcher umbral clear 🔥

[tight haven]

i mean just get rid of it atp

[distant python]

Catcher disagrees

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah why is it 10m

[tight haven]

let people do fucking catcher solos

[midnight stirrup]

Thats so long lmao

[distant python]

You can

[drifting quest]

catcher solo cleared in 10m

lmao

[tight haven]

yesh catcher could def solo in 10m

[drifting quest]

already happened

got posted like 20m after it came out

[distant python]

Someone literally did a solo catcher clear on stage 3

[tight haven]

IM AWARE

i did it in beta 💔

[distant python]

Stage 1 is impossible due to fog

[midnight stirrup]

Wtf does Catcher do that makes him able to solo

[potent hornet]

singlel pull after i got a ardelia on my 50/50

[midnight stirrup]

Tf

[distant python]

Parry

[tight haven]

parey and huge ass damage reduction

[midnight stirrup]

His parry got a 10000% multiplier?

[potent hornet]

i was just trying to get some arsenal tickets

[distant python]

You don't actually need that much damage to beat the mode

[drifting quest]

anyone can solo

[distant python]

You can just sustain through it

[drifting quest]

catcher solo is just like the weakest unit in the game

[midnight stirrup]

I mean ig

[drifting quest]

so funniest to solo with

[tight haven]

underleveled solos are fun though

[drifting berry]

You can solo, it just takes a while

[potent hornet]

woops my bad

[tight haven]

but yeah the 10m timer doesnt make sense to me

[urban plaza]

Do we have any hints/datamines etc when the first big updates comes?

Kinda feels like a waste upgrading supporter more, if there is nothing to clear

[tight haven]

stops people from doing funny solos

[distant python]

10 mins is super generous

[tight haven]

we cant talk abt mines here even if we wanted to

[drifting quest]

after yvonne banner ends so ~28d

[midnight stirrup]

Might not wanna discuss datamines in the official server of the game.

[distant python]

Barely a time limit

[urban plaza]

Oh right it's official

[drifting quest]

datamines from official game files are okay to discuss as long as spoiler tagged

[manic blade]

rlly? endfield based holy

[midnight stirrup]

I thought datamining was against the rules

[manic blade]

hsr official would send a hit on your entire family and ban you for eternity

[drifting quest]

All discussions must comply with Discord’s Terms of Service and the Arknights / Arknights: Endfield Terms of Service. Prohibited content includes, but is not limited to, hacks, cheats, piracy, third-party tools or macros, real-money trading, account sharing or selling, NDA or leaked content, and any media depicting such activities. Datamined content is permitted only if it originates from publicly available game files and must be properly spoiler-tagged. Instructions on obtaining datamined or restricted content are not allowed. Violations of this rule will result in a permanent ban and apply to all games discussed on the server.

[sterile herald]

where catcher solo vid

[pulsar sedge]

just realized for the past 5 days my akekuri was using eternal xiranite set and my ardelia was using frontier

[drifting quest]

you cant tell people how to datamine but you can tell people what was datamined

[midnight stirrup]

Thats so odd

[sterile herald]

hypergoat

[drifting quest]

its why we know yvonne banner off rate weapons, and the weekly rotation for 1.0

they both got datamined

[sterile herald]

hsr devs would lynch you for that

[manic blade]

speaking of hsr new region tn...

[midnight stirrup]

Why does it always turn into a hoyo comparison

lmfao

[drifting quest]

tribalism

[midnight stirrup]

Mfs be acting like hoyo eradicated their bloodline

[distant python]

Wait the weekly rotation of 6 star weapon in stores?

[peak void]

gacha genre curse

[distant python]

Pls send

[tight haven]

not new but annoying as always

[sterile herald]

anyone got the catcher solo vid

[midnight stirrup]

Anyway

[peak void]

ye it gets tiring

[manic blade]

hsr story is so peak idc

[tight haven]

not me 💔

[midnight stirrup]

Enion

I still dont got my essence

[tight haven]

hi

[sterile herald]

wtf enion

[midnight stirrup]

Strangle me to death ty

[tight haven]

damn

[sterile herald]

i thought you would have it

of all people

hello

find it

now!

[drifting quest]

||Grand Vision
Oblivion
Valiant
Clannibal (We are here)
Detonation Unit
Former Finery
Eminent Repute||
1.1 starts here we don't know other than the 8 remaining weapons in the pool

[tight haven]

dude if i tried to record 7 mins of video

with my phone

[midnight stirrup]

Atp something has to be wrong with my account

[tight haven]

it would explode with endfield open

[peak void]

i think your essence is over there 👉

[sterile herald]

i’m exploding you with my mind

[distant python]

Might have to buy next week

[sterile herald]

is it working

[drifting berry]

I just got baited by a Fangyi "gameplay" AI generated video on bilibili 😭 . What is Bilibili even about

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-at-you-gif-15677477317679001616

[distant python]

Det unit is good on perlica right?

[tight haven]

drip marketing...

[drifting quest]

can be

[midnight stirrup]

Im really excited for the livestream of this game actually

[potent hornet]

its decent

[drifting quest]

drip marketing should have been this week

[tight haven]

depends on whether or not you can trigger it

[drifting quest]

so its pretty doomed

[midnight stirrup]

I wonder when theyll announce it

Were halfway through

[tight haven]

YEAH WHEN IS IT

[drifting quest]

we'll find out like 1 week before patch

same as ak

[tight haven]

goddamn you hg

[midnight stirrup]

What

The drip marketing or the livestream date

[distant python]

What's the trigger condition again?

[tight haven]

drips

[manic blade]

you should get tps to your eco farms

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

Man fuck the drip

[drifting quest]

arknights doesnt reveal new stuff until like a week before it drops

[midnight stirrup]

Gimme livestream

[tight haven]

applying arts burst

[drifting quest]

iirc cny livestream was what

not even a week before

[distant python]

Free for perlica to proc no?

[tight haven]

not free no

[midnight stirrup]

A week is good timing

[distant python]

Press skill

Gg

[midnight stirrup]

Does AK streams drop currency codes

[tight haven]

she would need to bskill twice

[drifting quest]

4d gap between stream and release

[tight haven]

assuming no other electric infliction

[drifting quest]

no it just gets sent to your mail

[distant python]

Do you not get other stacks from like arclight or soemthing?

[midnight stirrup]

HOLY

[drifting quest]

they did codes like once

[midnight stirrup]

Thats based

[tight haven]

yeah its nice

[drifting quest]

god hand lowlight

[tight haven]

yeah on electric teams

[midnight stirrup]

Bro

[tight haven]

if youre using her for yvonne for example

[midnight stirrup]

I love this game

[tight haven]

just use stanza

[midnight stirrup]

Prayge we get a new map for Wuling next patch

With cherry blossoms and shit

First time im excited for a chinese inspired map expansion

[drifting quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3VHKK4GX8

[tight haven]

how long til they fold on skins dyt

[drifting quest]

they're always so goofy

[sullen silo]

nah bro we got oil spillage on our water

[midnight stirrup]

I mean blossoms already exist

in the city

The environmental design in this game is the biggest selling point for me rn

Let me take a nap in Wuling gardens

[chilly bison]

@gritty olive can you caculate this for me, I feel like gilberta sig buff shouldn't deal less damge then perlica Electrification

[tight haven]

it is such a photogenic game

[midnight stirrup]

I thought Valley was impressive

But Wuling

wowzies

Makes me excited for new regions

[tight haven]

no this is natural

[drifting quest]

wuling if i didnt drown as much would be good

[sullen silo]

[tight haven]

electrification is its own bracket

gilbs sig adds to all +dmg which tends to be very saturated on lr

[sullen silo]

wuling has water issue in another sense lol

[amber vapor]

If it had fishing I would do nothing but fish in my free time

[chilly bison]

[midnight stirrup]

Please no fishing

That shit is so ass in any game

[amber vapor]

They just need to make a mini game where you fish and then actually prepare the fish for food

That would be peak

[drifting quest]

we already have fishing

[tight haven]

atuomated fishing:

[drifting quest]

in alesh

[amber vapor]

10% chance of getting a fish

W

[tight haven]

if we cant build a highly unethical factory farm then whats the fucking point

[midnight stirrup]

Alesh isnt fishing

Alesh is crit fishing

Literally

[amber vapor]

Like those fish farms IRL

[tight haven]

exaaaaaactly

[amber vapor]

We need to be able to breed and slaughter for meat too

[midnight stirrup]

Yall got a garden setup for the foodbuffs?

I saw fobm4ster do it but I aint got the time breh

[tight haven]

just pack them close together

no need for specific setups

[drifting quest]

20 ginseng in wuling
20 citromes in valley 4

[manic blade]

^

[tight haven]

1 sprinkler can hit 2 plots at once

[midnight stirrup]

Goddamn

[drifting quest]

fillet run, slug run and sometimes aggeloi run every day

[amber vapor]

Nah fuck jinseng I'm a jasmine rice truther

[tight haven]

amber rice

fake rice fan

[amber vapor]

It actually urks me that it's not 3x3

[tight haven]

lmao same

[chilly bison]

if so can you explain why this happen after update ?

[drifting quest]

10 sprinklers and the most digusting pipe setup you ever saw

[tight haven]

okay i do not know

[chilly bison]

trying to find out where's all the damge lost

[amber vapor]

My farm setup just goes max pipe distance and then I have water storage and then more pipes

[tight haven]

first ive seen this if true

[chilly bison]

[amber vapor]

Stealth nerfing single target DMG

I wouldn't be surprised

[midnight stirrup]

Uh

I dont know

[drifting quest]

has anyone else had replicable issues

[midnight stirrup]

Ive noticed with LR in essences that I have her skill on but it doesnt proc on FS and just dissapears

But figured I was tripping

This makes me think they fucked up LR

[chilly bison]

but am not tripping

[midnight stirrup]

I didnt say u were

[amber vapor]

They nerfed shield bros so they had to nerf LR to compensate imagine

[edgy crater]

w8 really?

[thorn shore]

welp guys theres our 6 endgame missions

wrap it up

[drifting quest]

5m of content

see you in 2 weeks

[midnight stirrup]

Wonder if theres actual issues with LR rn

[amber vapor]

Dw we'll get a true endgame in 3.0 like with WuWa

[midnight stirrup]

Endgame is always like this no

[drifting quest]

i mean depends on your wallet

[edgy crater]

did u crosshcheck yet?

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym

[edgy crater]

before n after udpate damage, same or not

[midnight stirrup]

NekoDama noticed that

[drifting quest]

is yours lower

[midnight stirrup]

I just noticed her skill not going off while active

[amber vapor]

True endgame is how many days it takes for you to get bored before you stop logging in till next update

[drifting quest]

should be pretty easy thing to confirm

[midnight stirrup]

Although

[drifting quest]

if yours isnt lower than its on them not last rite nerf

[midnight stirrup]

They got essence I dont

Hard to check that way

[drifting quest]

if yours is lower then its time to send off a message to CS

wdym

did you take screenshots of your nukes before

[midnight stirrup]

Only one

[amber vapor]

@chilly bison see if your DMG numbers consistently look lower

[midnight stirrup]

the vid of marble

[drifting quest]

compare it now i guess

if you can

[midnight stirrup]

Probably not, seemed very specific, and my LR improved since then

[chilly bison]

yea it consistently lower like I cant no longer hit 500k

[midnight stirrup]

Her damage does feel inconsistent tho

Cause on essence

I be hitting the mf uh

rhino

actually let me test that first before saying anything

[chilly bison]

btw does art amp same bracket with art dmg dealt bonus ?

[stark coyote]

All Damage+18% or ATK+180 better? For buff potions

[amber vapor]

There's a spreadsheet someone posted earlier I forgot where it is

[drifting quest]

the attack, easily

atk vs atk% becomes harder to compare

[edgy crater]

hmm seem so

[west moon]

I can't beat agony mist, this is tuff dps check

[edgy crater]

my lr only do 50k instead 55k

[thorn shore]

just use ardelia

she can slot into pretty much any team

[west moon]

My ardelia is kinda experience-less

[potent hornet]

I'm gonna guess LiFeng is the one you want assigned to sky king flats for the outpost?

[midnight stirrup]

NERFED

[potent hornet]

or yvonne

[humble hinge]

I use wulfgard

Prosperity is useless

[thorn shore]

wulfgard

[potent hornet]

thats what i'm using atm

i just like seeing all 3 skills active

[humble hinge]

Half naked woman can't oneshot rhodagn anymore

[potent hornet]

was just trying to figure out who did all three slots

the only ones i don't have are yvonne and lifeng

[humble hinge]

Only lava can do that on refugee camp

No one else

[potent hornet]

ahhh gotcha

[drifting quest]

laev / yvonne / gilb
wulf

antal can do refugee

[midnight stirrup]

LR nerf would genuinely be crazy

Are they even allowed to nerf post release

[potent hornet]

Gilberta does it

[humble hinge]

LR progression is pretty much dead

[midnight stirrup]

since bought product

[potent hornet]

for reconstruction hq

[humble hinge]

Her team is endgame investment

[midnight stirrup]

Idk I progressed with LR just fine

[drifting quest]

if it's replicable for several people then it's a message to CS time

odds are its just bugged

[midnight stirrup]

I lack the information to test myself sadge. I never took ss

[humble hinge]

They do it all the time

[midnight stirrup]

I only hit about 450k vs Marble with Akehuri

[midnight stirrup]

Arknights?

[humble hinge]

Gacha games

[midnight stirrup]

Like which

All the ones ive played its a big no no

[drifting quest]

the neuvilette incident

[midnight stirrup]

Exactly

[humble hinge]

I know for sure that GI nerfed many chars

Without mentioning it in patch notes

[drifting quest]

like who

[humble hinge]

I remember hu tao cases

[midnight stirrup]

Genshin never did it outside of Neuv

[drifting quest]

the only nerfs were to bugs being exploited e.g. dragonstrike

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym

[drifting quest]

is this the vape bug fix from like

[humble hinge]

It is hard to prove, but sometimes damage on characters just drops without visible reason after updates

[drifting quest]

2021

[midnight stirrup]

Yea I dont remember any Hu Tao nerfs post release but if u have source, id love to look at it

[drifting quest]

it was misinfo

[lime nacelle]

GENSHIN MENTIONED!

[drifting quest]

back in my day aah

[dense drift]

genshit

[lime nacelle]

It's only been over a month since I quit.

[humble hinge]

No image perms?

[humble hinge]

Good riddance

[drifting quest]

there are image perms

you're image muted

[potent hornet]

got p3 khravengger wooo

[drifting quest]

what did you do

[humble hinge]

Man, I'll kill that moderator

[drifting quest]

lore banned

were you book burning or what

[humble hinge]

Anyway, let me quickly swap my account

[drifting quest]

rules...

consequences...

[midnight stirrup]

Bro bout to be banned for real

[drifting quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438785797334503506/1469026229184233679/caption.gif

[amber vapor]

CZN nerfed two supports, one 4* and one 5* because you could just one turn nuke bosses

But that's a deck builder gacha so

[amber vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-stella-sora-tyrant-meme-discord-meme-gif-12066103321654203674

[midnight stirrup]

Bro went from basically every gacha does this all the time, to im sure Genshin did this a couple times, to not being correct at all

What a journey

[edgy crater]

hmm innate crit rate still 5% isnt?

[amber vapor]

CN bros will prolly be all over this whether it's a bug or a nerf

[midnight stirrup]

Sweats will take care of it yeah

Imma just sit back and enjoy the compensation oreberyl if it turns out true

[thorn shore]

it'd just get shoved into normal maintenance patch no extra oro

[west moon]

I hope next update compensation will be 50k oroberyl

[thorn shore]

[amber vapor]

Also

It's kinda funny that week 3 bp quest asks you to clear Umbral

When it's already a few days into the week

[thorn shore]

also minor thing but last maintenance patch they removed tangtang and rossi from the operator filter in the messaging app thing

[west moon]

Weekly routine isn't exactly BP, but I get it

[thorn shore]

oh no guys we accidentally leaked the next chars, quick put it in the patch notes!

[west moon]

We knew it for like a week? Or two

[thin berry]

if these are the odds on etching, isnt using gel for 4 to 5 better than 5 to 6?

[thorn shore]

idk it was funny to see them finally fix it tho

[west moon]

Generally it evens out

Doesn't matters in the long run

Gel is just pity analogue

[thin berry]

if you upgrade on 4-5, its about 3% better

[midnight stirrup]

Where did we pull these rates from anyway

[thin berry]

https://endfieldtools.dev/guides/essences/

[drifting berry]

it the same thing no? lvl 5 is half the rate for double the cost. So it evens out.

lvl 6 is mental illness

[west moon]

These chances are funny, no shit I can't get lvl 6 etch

[edgy crater]

still same result?

[thorn shore]

i cant even get the essence for laev

[midnight stirrup]

I mean how did they come up with those rates

[thorn shore]

ive spent so much stam its not even funny anymore

[west moon]

Let us buy cooling gel please

That would be fire

[drifting berry]

I think by collecting user data? Not entire sure

[thin berry]

statics im guessing

[midnight stirrup]

Hmm

So they could be inaccurate still

[west moon]

Looks close to the truth

[drifting berry]

I think the sample size was over 13k attemps

[west moon]

The error margin is 0.1-1% here I believe

[midnight stirrup]

How tf u farm 13k essences

[drifting berry]

still just trying to remember for a picture I saw for like 3 seconds

[midnight stirrup]

I guess beta

[west moon]

Collective data

[midnight stirrup]

I guess

Idk how collective data works

[west moon]

Usually devs don't do weird numbers, so it is likely:
60 - 25 - 10 - 5 - 2.5

You know what would be fire? Matching essence should multiplicate odds. It makes so much sense and keeps permits useful even after you get all essences you need

[dry kindle]

[chilly bison]

yea

sending out ticket right now

[edgy crater]

oh u using ulti?

[dry kindle]

Also perk is 10 - 4

[chilly bison]

no last rite combo skill

the ult pretty much the same

[edgy crater]

i mean using xaihi ulti

[chilly bison]

yea

[edgy crater]

without using xaihi ulti, its still go same number

[chilly bison]

nope

it lower

[drifting berry]

huh something got changed?

[chilly bison]

this

[drifting quest]

did you contact cs yet

[chilly bison]

am doing it

[thorn shore]

scroll up 🥀

[drifting quest]

curious to see if its some bug, some undocumented change to rhodagn or something

or otherwise

[west moon]

Almost 200k difference

.lookinside

~140k

Sir, with all respect, that's not how numbers are rounded

[thorn shore]

giving rhodagn DR would make sense

he needs it

[half rapids]

Last rite wins again!

[edgy crater]

maybe theres something change on xaihi ulti?

[chilly bison]

me only look at first number

[drifting quest]

xaihi ult nerf shouldnt be that significant but possible factor into it

[dry kindle]

Close enough

[drifting berry]

Share the screenshot on bilibili and give it one day

[potent hornet]

has anyone explored the weights for essence stats?

[chilly bison]

time to wait for good new

[west moon]

Akekuri or Arclight for ST in Avywenna team?

From one side, trekker talent, from another - link

[west moon]

Someone dropped odds of upgrades already, scroll up

[thorn shore]

arclight for mobs ake for bosses

[west moon]

Fair

[drifting quest]

arc should be better in longer fights

[thin berry]

its slightly better

[potent hornet]

not looking for the upgrade side but on rolling the base stats

[drifting quest]

ake is good for prestacked ults > nuke

[west moon]

4% chance to get what you want

[potent hornet]

like is it better to roll for a ability stat and attack boost and hope for detornator? or should i do detonator and a stat

[potent hornet]

ahh so just flat 4 for each stat across the board

[west moon]

For each weapon

The chance of hitting 3/3 is 1/24

[potent hornet]

with the ticket yea?

[west moon]

Use this to increase your odds of getting something useful

[potent hornet]

gotcha thx

[edgy crater]

suo, does ordering buff matter on calculation?

[midnight stirrup]

Say that to my 1.5-2k sanity spent

Still aint got shit

[west moon]

Sorry, I stole all your luck

[midnight stirrup]

Give it back

🧟‍♀️

[potent hornet]

yea i have an ok str/detonate one

[west moon]

I got 6 essences under 1000 sanity

[potent hornet]

missing the atk boost sucks tho

[thin berry]

just unlucky

[midnight stirrup]

I only got 3/3 for det unit

Nothing else

[midnight stirrup]

I know

[west moon]

JET, oblivion, forgeborn, clannibal, wild wanderer, exemplar and thermite

Thermite is 6/6/4 already

[potent hornet]

thats a nice boost

[edgy crater]

yeah it goes down (?)

[potent hornet]

so that 25 seconds i need to trim was because of the update

lol fun

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