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it says "better than before" so the revamp presumably is better than what you were using before
thats kinda just how the writer talks. very dry and matter of fact, but im not getting an "its trash now" vibe from the note
Its damage over entire rhodagn kill timeline
so its still the 2nd best (the best being endmin one)?
for phys yeah. it gets better with p5 da pan as well
Okay but we're ignoring the first 3 cycles of Yvonne consuming stacks, and that's assuming you don't get unlucky with crit rolls
got it, one more thing, what do the red thingies, bs and breach-4 means?
actually L.ult too
i dont think he mentions what those mean anywhere?
No way P0 Artzy is equal to P5 Wedge
tf am i looking at? a song remix?
apparently its a rotation
i assume it is anyways
Entire kill timeline
🗿
yeesh
Average tc autism
Are you taking 20 Yvonne battle skills or something?

on the one hand, credit to the one who put it together, on the other, its not the easiest thing to look at lol
but to answer your question, i have no idea what the red things are
maybe vuln applications or something? idk thats my best guess
i c, what about the other things i said? (bs, breach-4 and l.ult)
If you have to consume 4 cryo stacks 6 times with Yvonne P5 Wedge will still come out ahead of P0 Artzy by a solid margin
this shit is so funny man
why they got fl studio for endfield rotations 😭
Red dots are hits
bs is battle skill, breach-4 means do the breach and they should have 4 stacks of vuln at that point, idk what the l is in front of ult, maybe a copy paste miss from an earlier rendition where l.ult meant lifeng ult
alr, thanks!
https://youtu.be/SRociiQYiR0 welp there it is 🔥
I wasted so much time dealing with the tentacles, that part could be faster if optimized better
Had to change up the build for this one. During the final phase, I needed to time the second burst rotation during the stagger window. It meant I could only use two SP to regain my ults, so Fluorite had to use Ult Gain% Armor. Honestly I think I like...
have u seen estelle trim ?
kelsuis had done it
u do it lah
wtf surtr crit build
It might be the dps ceiling
Not me but saw this today. Bro even whiffs a skill or two. Breach is too strong. https://youtu.be/rzeJoXncDoM
So I heard that staying alive is the hard part in the end game mode
00:00 - quick cha review
00:17 - Rhodagn
01:55 - Rhodagn dead
02:21 - Annoying ass tryangle
05:53 - dead
06:30 - Mable blah blah bla
10:08 - done + cha build
Mfw dps pog
"catcher ember trim"

Well
is this real
28 hours, no?
Hmm, yes Umbral actually came out 4 months ago
<t:1770868800:R>
bro went back in time
Oh I see, Asia server time. Thought I was going crazy
apparently people dont look at months or days
Bi weekly in notice no ?
February 12-26th iirc was the listed dates
Why is gilberta so essential fpr yvonne?
Yeah it's been made clear it's every 2 weeks
Oh we're so fucked
Asia gonna have the content 14 hours prior to Global
It only gives 1200 oroberyl per reset 
I thought it was 2400
I never found the source for those claims, but I read the same thing in many places
Probably not ragebait datamines
are these final sets btw? (idc about anything for laev other than charge set since its smooth to play so exclude that)
wulf ardelia and ake
can anyone tell me why everyone says gilberta is not negotiable for yvonne
Isn’t the endgame easy ?
isnt trimmed medals harder tho?
I'm not understanding how Gilberta works as an Yvonne support?
I find that Yvonne wants to be the one to consume solidification but Gilberta will shatter it if you use her combo skill.
Unless you unplug monitor then I guess
Sometimes that’s what endgame is lol
All these new gacha follow similar format unfortunately
Even infinity Nikki 🤣
Just don't unplug your mouse or something and it's fine
if its not harder than trimmed medals why should i wait for umbral to release?
Infinity Nikki copy abyss format from genshin but it’s a fashion show with the enemy being. A mirror 🤣
You know wht I crave? A gacha that doest reset the guarantee when you pull early. something that rewards luck vs rewarding unluck
sworce are u fr running crit on laev
No

Wut
saw someone say umbral is 10x easier than current trimmed medal thingy?
You don't have to pop the combo skill right away
Yeah it is
Does it multiply the amp per Int, or the max damage bonus cap, or does it just take the bonus you already have and multiply it afterward?
why wait for it when its easier than the hardest is rn? (so it wouldnt be a good comparison)
for gear recs
We got nothing better to do
oops wrong place

so i still should wait for umbral despite it being easier than the current hardest thing to know if those are final sets?
I dont think they’ll make it harder than trims, so it should be pretty easy
Isnt it still rec 90 for agony
i'll just wait and see just incase for artificing ake's gear
Personally I wouldn't invest resources into anything if I didn't know why I was doing it
anyways, thanks
Idk if someone would fully invest in a specific gear set to optimize a medal farm? But you’d typically optimise to get premium rewards every 2 weeks in a game mode that will gradually get harder
i was gonna artifice ake's intelligence gear for more sp, but if it might get replaced soon i'll hold on
Atleast comparatively to the similar gacha games
Some of the phrasing in the announcement makes it sound like the stages will have weather similar to the protocol farming stages
and maybe wulf's energy gain if he needs more than the base gear gives
me and my friend bet $20 on what rossi’s element would be he bet fire i bet nature am i screwed?
I bet electric xD
Rossi wulf overload team let’s go
The only thing keeping me from betting physical is because there's so many physical characters already.
I jus think rossi could possibly be nature since ardelia was purple and she is nature
Why the fuck would you bet nature
She has some purple visuals and aesthetics
This isnt pgr
Same also too many fire dos alr
Same wit ardelia!
Wulf can use his actual kit ???
Is what im coping with
I never looked that much at her idk what she looks like 😬😬😬
Looking at you Lifeng
Ardelia is an environmental scientist though so it makes sense she is Nature
I know ardelia has a cane and brown hair 🤣
Rossi a wolfgirl she nature
she little red riding hood
she cares for the people shes for the people
Electric makes sense to go with Wulfgard actually, doesn't it. Heat/electric is paired quite often for buffs and a short electrification synergizes better with Wulfgard burst than it does with Laevetain basics
Bro thinks shes robin hood
Rossi def will be fire because she is "feral" and it seems like the fire element is either for free spirited or feral ops
Little red riding hood learned to NOT stop on her way through the deep dark forest
An important distinction
Since last she picked flowers
Her granma almost got eaten
Well sometimes she did
Idp on the story version 🤣
I’ve read like 6 diff versions of that story xD
😭😭😭
It’s all the same in that distinction
LMFAOO
What u guys think gilberta would fit well with future characters
Only fangyi?
My daughter gets a new bed time story every night (this is def not sustainable )
Characters with short burst windows which will prob be common.
Possibly fangyi? i dont wanna waste my gilberta + sig it costs me way too much on the weap -14k arsenals to the drain
Someone needs to make a low tier god edit of Fangyi when she comes out
im not even using her rn i alr got lae sig team
I use her with laev unless like
St Boss fight
really wit laev?
Suction good for adds
Lowkey kinda ew with less heat
Quick clean up and kill
but true the suction is what i really why i pulled for gilberta
Our very own venti
Every attack is aoe when they are suctioned
Pretty much
Tho i don’t think this game has overlapping hitboxes like when venti sucks enemies into tornadoes
It’s still great QoL for every fight that isn’t st
Hi ziek 👋
is there something special about the little steam vent turtles in wuling?
Aesthetic 🫦
fair enough, some have more steam coming out so i thought there might be a hidden chest thing attached to them, kinda like the frogs and flies
.roadmap
i wonder whats the sanity discount limit gonna be
Hey buddy ! Long time !
On that server I replied to an off-topic post and cost me a 9 day ban 
I have not returned since.
Atleast it was only a 9 day ban ! 🤣
My bans are usually life time
🤣
I got banned from a wwm server for talking too much . Apparently their ToS said not to cuz ppl have anxiety
😩
Careful we're talking off-topic now we might get 9 day ban 
💀
They’ll ban you first since you’re obviously a repeat offender
Is this your main game now ?
Atm yah
What does this channel even do
we theory, i guess u could call it a game theory... idk where i was going with this
How to maximized his damage
I want my anal hitting 1m
I left zzz in 2.4 so just ake and genshin now.
I'm healer main and theorizing the team 
your what is doing what?
I am theorising how to win through the power of friendship ! 🤣
Friendship ended when I got yvonne
I’ve managed to dodge that bullet so far but
She’s on like 5 banners ?
So you’re probably gonna get her again 🤣
By experience support has the most milage so I went for gilb, got her on 120 pity but got both yvonne and laev on my way to it.
I snabbed Angelina just in case there'll be content that favors AoE characters
update time
how long is the update? i didnt check, i just logged in and got kicked instantly cause it said update immenent or something in that line 🤣
like 10 minutes i think
Oh that’s pretty good !
whats the update about tho? 🤔
umbral monument and some fixes
Fixing annoying shield guys
something about a laev abuse with switching away from her during her ult in order to also cast her battle skill
ohh yeah totally forgot about umbral monument lol its today
the shield guys are super annoying ngl.. cant group them, and u do 0 damage when they are not staggered 🙁
its crazy they don't have a directional block so you can get behind them
its just 360 shielf
shield
the only upside about those guys is, if u start attacking them, they become a punching bag and sit still
Their ass just fat
They are skinny ass twigs what you talking about
20 away from my 50/50 for gilberta, if i don't get her on that i'm probably gonna hold the rest of my pulls
is it worth artificing yvonne's gear rn?
Do controlled operators gain damage boosts?
No but optimizing combos is a lot more dmg
If you can’t clear the content you want to clear - artifice
If you clear everything, there’s no need
nah off field operators sometimes just refuse to attack tho
You can control all of their boosts under their portraits
So a team-wide damage boost would apply to everyone
crush, knock down, and lift dmg all scale from physical dmg bonus% of the character right?
They do increase with phys dmg bonus.
Someone did the math apparently for fully maxed out character
https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1r1uw0v/operator_progression_cost_breakdown_it_takes_you/
Sussy math. Doesn't account for a lot of very common stamina/material sources
Edit: looks like they updated it a bit. Not as bad but still
does Bonekrushing Smash's 3pc DMG apply to Crush or nah? I'm assuming no right
does the -1sec cd on leav combo skill help much? or should i max her normals to mas 3 first?
Nope.
arclight p5 or akekuri p5 better for electric team of avy, gilberta,perlica. a lot saying akekuri better so not sure if i should build her
isn’t arclight kinda core
How does m3 combo skill help endmin/physical team?
-1s cd.
Like yes Perlica can give a nice level 1 electrification but
Arclight can ult pretty often and generate higher level electrifications if you have enough infusion
generating SP is pretty goood
According to the guide on pins they’re interchangeable
damn
ah right pre placed spear nukes
Interchangeable, Ake is easier to use.

chat Bonekrusha or Swordmancer Endmin?
Arclight does less mental damage to the player
assuming the sustainless setup
is Umbral out
Swordmancer
ok
Her P1 art is still my favorite wallpaper so far
why tho, I feel like I just end up applying all of my vuln stacks with Chen and Lifeng
and I only use endmin crush during stagger windows
That why I use Bonekrusha/stagger damage style with ultspam/intensity Pog.
It always feels like trying to regularly use the swordmancer passive on Endmin just breaks your ability to setup for bursts
yea, Lifeng ends up with less energy 💀
Can't wait for maint to start 🗣️
is that fog of war spot in the west of orignium science park tied to a prosperity quest>?
didn't Maint already end
Maint starts when maint ends
this is NOT fgo christmas 2018 bro 🥀
this IS fgo christmas 2019 👍
I forgot which one had the long af maint
do u guys know what website this is?
Yvonne SS 💀
leav normals > combo right?
Avy is easily SSS
Right.
game8
sometimes their teir lists are good sometimes its a mess
Lmao Assvonne higher than LR
Chen at a tier
try to phys without chen pls, i will wait
leav mastery normals > mastery combos?
Combo at m3 have -1cd so I would prefer combo
they are prob judging the char by individual power not team necessity due to having no other options
yvonne ss tier confirmed
since when is yvonne individual power ss tier
i would m3 normal first bc finisher but that's just me
maybe they are coping that a limited char is not that good
And since when 2 vul with 100 sp is considered Average tier
alesh a tier kinda crazy as well
alesh gonna be in s tier when we get a real shatter dps trust
😭
SS tier if considering lucksac 
lr is right there cro
LR is good tho? Wish i have a Heat LR
but is the -1s even helpful?
Or Ice Wulf
you have laev what ur missing is pyro xaihi
3 stack with 100 sp is crazy work
Lae super charge and heat LR combo could be good
We have Lizard
poor lizard
That assumes you can reach 1200 int
yeah, i think they usually have a better read than prydwen
no
Best i can do is 800 with high enough efficiency to ult when necessary
Idk Prydwen read on AK:EN isn’t super far off as far as I can tell
assuming current max int
i also think prydwen's bad rep is somewhat unjustified but that's another discussion lol
shes 3 times higher amp than lizard
if only she could slab it up
you can get about 690 int currently which means ult alone p5 is 49 percent amp
but xaihi has other sources of buffs/debuffs as well
her bs activation at full hp is like 20 percent
when does umbral drop again
to be honest a 49% amp is terrifyingly high
which stacks with her bs and cs buffs
this is post heavy nerfing
Now for asia
time to hop on ig
Xaihi now is still a monster
all the supps got nerfed
The benefits of a nearly exclusive damage bucket goes hard
I fear what a true limited premium support can do
If this is a 5*
When Ice Wulf? When heat Xaihi
Does it actually count as susc for the purpose of things like Last Rite's ult? Just curious in case it's ever relevant somewhere else.
Rossi is just around the corner boys
if Rossi is a vanguard then my laevless ass is burnt toast
Yeah I know it's damage taken, it just doesn't explicitly call it susceptability
That is on dmg taken bucket no?
i would assume its susc but endfield is crazy inconsistent and confusing
with specifics
Dmg taken and sus is different bucket
.umbral
will food buffs work in agony or nah
No
no to who
That's fair haha, I have absolutely no clue either 
I hope and I pray for a pog power level wulf slot in Rossi
Not you 
if this is true this makes xaihi just that much more broken
^
i was mostly wondering if you were saying no to the dmg bucket thingy
That's true
I'm actually curious about the answer now
Dealt x taken x amp x suscept
god i love xaihi
i thought someone said we were gonna get 2400 from umbral
2400 from both phases
How much is it
1200 per phase
wow thats cheap
Well that answers that, ty
Wuwa Toa is like 700 asterite or something like that iirc. So similar
Same for each stage
Waiting till I get Yvonne to build xaihi. Focused on physical team for now.
It’s so expensive :(
at 9/9 its 25 percent i think
Oh is this why people don’t recommend detonation unit anymore
Diff condition.
Like it giving will since mainstat
wow what, i just peeped the phys page overhaul on iana's sheet
I thought that there is some cursed knowledge that I haven’t accounted
I should just grab detonation unit from this weapon chest. It’d be good for antal too
Is deto still good on Xaihi or is the intellect stacking too stronk
what even is this medal
Umbral agony.
I got two teams ready for umbral. Though I’ll probably just ride with laev since she’s actually juiced
Do we need 2 teams for sure
No
Deto good, it also give secondary stat
O it does do that doesn’t it
idk I just keep running into sites that don’t even list deto for Xaihi
what do they list
Probably Chiv
weird

Arts burst
Art burst
So you can see why it’s like damn good on Xaihi
Honestly it’s probably a great baseline for any infliction stacking caster
I think it’s damn good on pretty much everyone with infliction
O lol
which would result in 1k+ int xaihi
So that’s what they mean by deto nerf
rite also used to do more dmg i think
Yeah they toned down the damage numbers
Xai/Wulf is too good, need them on every element
Honestly? The nerfs were probably needed
whats the max int possible on xaihi rn
690 with deto but higher is probs technically possible
with an int main stat weap
tho its not actually worth
Should be around 800 with enough efficiency
since theres none with good passive for xai
Even Chiv is wis
starry and oblivion would technically be max int setup for xai
Yes.
it’s kind of a shame really that we have to stack int and not Wis
Arts burst damage is still damage
Amp is amp
valid for contention
any of the players on the chinese side been doing umbral?
It's easy.
What about hard mode for trim
Ake is Myrtle, queen of vanguard
bennett of endfield
easy too
sorta kinda gilb
is umbral out
her ult is aoe buff
Who is myrtle I don't play Arknights.
wdf my ai keeps dying
yeah
nice
🤡 where are the “no need for sustain just dodge” clowns now
Wish that she can heal like Bennett too 
You can just solo it
So
ok that’s funny and based
should i m3 ardelia's bs or should i m1 both leav's combo and normals (ill prob do both as time goes on this is just for what to do first)
just right click
Fair nuff
Bennett buff like 1k atk and still heal for 12k/s is insane
It’s probably a symptom of leaving our support ops kinda underfunded lol
oh lord what is going to happen to the lv 60 supports in arts teams
ardelia ig
Well I guess that is one way to make sustain relevant LOL
i have never had my off field die after i finished leveling
i dont even use good heals on em
just yahzen syringe
their ai is made to dodge every heavy attack
my 40 wulfgard doesnt die
on agony
should i m3 ardelia's bs or should i m1 both leav's combo and normals (ill prob do both as time goes on this is just for what to do first) (already m3ed bs and ult on leav)
they die LOL
m3 dps before supps
Wild
Misappropriating your Tangtang resources like how our glorious chief mismanages the local industrial funding

glad i leveled them to 80 for no reason lmfao
3/3?
can anyone give me a recomendation?
yea ofc
Why does endmin ult directly after pog ult in the 4/3/4 rotation? Is it just for pog ult proc?
is that it
I think the ultimate gets a bonus if it pops the originum crystal?
its not designed to be super hard
The crystal will pop to physical status so gotta get it popped earlier I guess
You could use it in a later part of the sequence where you have vulnerability stacked is my point
yeah
its opened tho
umbral
asia servers?
ye
ye
fuck that

im finna go crazy
timezonemaxxing
Can’t. The crystals shatter if you apply vuln to the target or physical status
this was easier than expected
You want specifically the ult to shatter them to get the extra bonus hit on ult
Needs to happen before anything that would lift/knock/crush/breach which is like most things haha
Ult doesn't crush. Vuln stacks are irrelevant for it
Just need to time on having to dodge and wait for their red circles
no way this is the endgame right
It is the endfield.
You still do more damage with vuln stacks up no?
if I had to guess it being the first in the lineup means its just one of the easier ones (I hope)
Oh, I thought you did, my bad then
1st stage without a healer is cancer
Vuln is just phys arts inflict
Triaggelos stage 3 trust
healer is a must for stage 1 agony
not entirely, I cleared it with avy team with just gilberta and her heal is dog
Gilberta doesn't heal
they had triaggelos in the cbt 1 roguelike surely theyll add the bosses here
She does for a bit
she does infact, 'kind of' heal

Doesn’t Gilberta have a healing talent
her heal might as well be negligible
yeah just clear it faster
Idr any heal in her kit
you need to hit 2 people

Vuln is unintuitively named. It determines severity of physical statuses or interacts with specific skills/passives that look for it
will there be more umbral monument things?
Explodes
yes?
inorganic constructs
iirc
Per update reset or something
it looks like a per month thing
ohhh icic this is the event name for the continuation?
Month for both
ahh okok
wait no the event ends in one month
wait so umbral monument is the name of the event, inorganic construct is the sub event?
ah thanks for the roadmap i was wondering if there was one
thanks guys 🙏
icic
and the monumental etching, is the event name
No problem that'll be $30000
im sorry they went to fangyi funds
Ya
stage 2 is pretty funny with gilberta though 
its easy with gilb
make all that archer
pulled into 1 spot
gilberta stonks
How many oroberly it give?
it wasn't based after all :(
1200
Dayum you give me heart attck with that extra 0 😂
8 x 150
3600 in total if its still the same for the other two
my bad 😭
I see, thanks
queen gilb
so the running theme here is landbreakers, the aggeloi, would the third one be a boss gauntlet or it has to wait until they release more pirates 
hi, whats the team gonna be if i need to insert ardelia in my sustainless physical (endmin lifeng pog chen)
need a healer cause the debuff of the new endgame gets to me
ardelia replacing chen imo
tyyy
yeah how is the phys experience for umbral
you could also look into ember probably
more level up needed or its fine
ayyy
nice hp
i'm bad at the game 💔
???
dont own ember haha, just e2 pog and e2 lifeng (and free ardelia)
not exactly fun, but doable sustainless for all 3. The first one is nightmare though, have to race before you tick out
bruh I'm so fucking skill issue for the third one
keep dying the ballistas so annoying istg
the boss airstrike cant be evaded
like
i cant trigger the evade slow mo
hate that
the aoe arrow?
Any Asia players. What’s the weapon in the arsenal rotation
yeyah
how much oros is rewarded from the new "endgame"?
1200
2400 a month probably
Lmao wtf
I thought they'll give at least 5... What about that old wounds event that wasn't featured in beta?
nvm, just checked it's called inorganic construct and it's coming on the 26th
Same
nah i just spam snowshine for parry lol
I only have ard and idk maybe cuz it's I'm on mobile but holy dodge issue
keep dying left and right bitch ass
ard cant save u and u need to run around to collect her sheeps to heal
that's what I did
just stall around
oh u stalled? i killed it o.O
what are the meta food stuffs for buffs?
snowshine has 5 sec immune cc, so my last rite final strike does not get interrupted
I like jakub's legacy for the raw stats, a lot of people vouch for ginseng stew but I don't really get it
but like crit is only 50% crit dmg
So i guess Lav meta team isn't as good? kept dying as Lav because this game enemy attack pattern design is garbage but 10 mins is plenty
is there any possible slot in that would increase the team's survivability
is your laev equipped with lv 70 gold gear?
not even 5 pulls a month from endgame mode?? 😭
this game without tacticles just makes no sense
no I killed it ofv
I have no problems with Laev in all agony stages
just took longer
i cleared healerless
skill issue
should i level Ardelia's something else to makeher heal more
any tips on 3rd stage? I cleared it but like all my HP are almost gone and painful af
learn the enemies attack patterns is your best bet
only the 3rd I really struggle
what is tacticles?
idfk why
laev team clearing this umbral soo easily
ah yes trying to discred RED attacks while my own attacks are ALSO RED
Lava holy vfx slop
And crit is another layer
I think it's just dodge issue
I'll focus on the range boss when at the last phase, his aoe is really annoying. The melee one can be kited
Gonna complain until they change enemy attack color
true yeah
if u dodge too much, stamina gets drained
nah i just use snowshine lol
does the 4/3/4 rot need m1 on pog’s skill and ult?
I think the part where the game makes the least sense is your skills not being immediate to coutner red circle
my lava just died just now because her skill isn't fast enough
trying to counter with laev skill
is the issue
This game being designed around you normally taking damage regularly in battle and having an endgame where you cant use tacticals is also kind of an issue
u know what, when those arrow already on ground, u can actually dodge it 
i mean no pulls from agony mode but its still very strange
like slow mo dodge ? or just avoiding the arrow
coz I were talking about the slow mo one
for me is dodging before red circle on ground is complete. I'm too used to games that require a much tighter timing where you gotta dodge the exact moment the circle is complete so it throws me off at times when I still get hit.
FK THE WORMS IN UMBRAL 2
I AGONIED ALL OF THEM
BUT THE WORMS TOOK THE MOST TRIES
AGAIN F THE WORMS
worm
Getting close to solo chen trims
Weird taste but okay.
even the people who clear this shit aknolwedged the game combat is ass
umbral wasn't that bad but it was a little annoying
straight up i'll have less problems with it if agony mode did not exist
the game
is NOT designed around not having tacticals
first stage was kinda bruhhhhhh with lvl60 supports
and i refuse to believe this isn't the case
well, no one force u to do the agony one
i maen
No
yeah
but the fact that it even exist in the first place
sets a concerning precedent
what?
on many gacha games, endgame is optional
Got them flexes lmao
its just a must for f2p since its their main source of income
which standards tho
no tactical one ?
on agony ?
yeah
skill issue truly
agony
no its not for this game
agony is extra
this game doesn't make sense
no one forces u
without tacticals
you get the main rewards from normals
it makes sense

if future endgame content is designed without tacticals then we're cooked
just dodge or brute force kill it
if ur team need tactical for endgame content, ur team is the one that cooked imo
seems like a skill issue more than anything
bring healer
build properly
just git gud
and use the team properly
he's coping lmao
Already have Ardelia and its not enough

maybe i need more sustain characters
it's ok just get Ember
Again
u said u had issue with the enemy red circle (the one u need to use skills to break)
i'll complain until they change the enemy attack color from red to white
and u choose the slowest char bs which is lae
on many games it already red
yeah but this game's red is the same red as Lav's attack LOl
what is he trynna kill
red is like the standard for "DODGE THIS MOVE". or danger in general
he complaining about the dodge warning color
since he using lae
he cant see the warning
i dont like Zenless, but at least their fire color is orange
its also a vertical circle around the enemy
i did not know thats a thing on lae
the red blink
laev's attack is not even the same blood red color of their attacks
not the circle one around the enemy
oh that one
yeah
yeah slow mo dodge
Eye it better
aight, will try later, im curious about that one
It's so hard for me to decide what skills are worth leveling up first for physical team
Like do I prioritize leveling up chen bs/cs or endmin cs
so is level80 supports a must for better survival
in a cycle there are diff ratios of dmg output each skill contributes to
practice on dodging
thats the best survival
you can't make your party members dodge bro
they WILL TAKE DAMAGE
oh
if that even applies for phys
they usually dont take dmg on mine lol
it isn't just my Lav, EVERYONE is dying
does phys buff buffs with talent lvl
so....
oh those yea they struggle with those
but with mobs/elite mobs? theyre fine
is kinda.....
what's agony?
just hard mode
the point is that they take damage and there's nothing u can do about it but bringing better sustain
Yeah I did that already, unlocked everyone's 4th promotion too for mastery skill
On what?
the new endgame mode
O ic
so uhhh, even when u bring sustain
if they didnt collect mr dolly shadow
they wont get healed
(the other teammate controlled by computer)
That stage has shared heal.
have anyone tried Ember in Agony mode?
only stage one
where tf are you supposed to get standard pulls in this game i thought this endgame mode would give standard banner pulls
My little gilberta is OP is the new endgame
what i mean is
Here's the neat part, you don't.

so p2 ardelia has a use? 🥺

probably wait for new story + new development levels.. also the mode in the ship forgot what its called when it releases more later
It’s kinda funny
If the endgame mode gave standard pulls I swear some people would be like “waaaah it should have been limited pulls only!”
They could have made etch space weekly or something.
though does it even qualify as endgame if it is easier than recrisis
Standard pulls in roguelike mode weeklies
hell even a goddamn tower defence endgame LOL
kill enemies for materials to construct base defences
Add in a roguelike element to
Spice shiet up
mfw just add ra atp
Elites that mog the defences normally that you have to go and punch
yeah its pretty weird how there's zero standard pull tickets you can get considering its you know, standard
maybe if the stock redistribution in wuling gets higher lv but like thats still a one time thing 
just gotta wait until they release more gamemodes ig
Especially when pulling units is your main way to get weapon pulls
Endgame is done alr back to waiting 
Man it's hard to clear the new endgame mode, Ardelia healing is good but I can't grab the sheep med when enemy chasing me
Which stage u having trouble with
Same
The two big guy
Don’t bother with heals for that one just pure dps
I bursted them down with no heals
I just want the soft pity bruh give me a bone game 
fr
That’s gonna be a flex in a few days. Day one trim is kinda shnice
Well it's hard to dodge when the bow guy won't stop shooting at me
Kill them faster then.
i've been running out of stamina doing chen's double animation cancel pretty frequently making it annoying to dodge attacks when i'm not careful, would it be reasonable to do smth like this in combat? ofc assuming the person youre swapping to isn't busy
Some do think it’s a good idea but if u fk up the timing the final strike resets. I assume once this game has more time to cook people will adopt this method
right im already fucking up like 15% of the time not doing it 🥹
ig just needs practice
i might rebind too, f3 f4 kinda piss to hit mid-combat
do meat ball and soup stacks, I only got 11.4% from a supposedly 31% increase
fairly certain food buffs overwrite each other
im assuming you have wuling buffs + ginseng stew active
1 food per time
which why you have 4 buff icons
5% defense
5% atk
+180 atk
+11% crit chance
oh shadow (idk you seem knowledgeable), dyk what a good no food phys rhodagn time is 
I see, do u think the 180 flat atk is worth the 10% decrease in crit rate compared to meatball
i think so ye
180 atk takes place with your atk boost and is multiplied by your attributes
so if you have 500 base atk from op + wep, 30% atk boost from wep, 300% atk scaling from attributes, youd have [500 + (500 * 0.3)] * 3 = 1950 atk
very cool, thanksalot
if you eat ginseng that formula would become [500 + (500 * 0.3) + 180] * 3 = 2490 atk
You can just do 500*1.3 
gfl from hit ceo haimao
At high investment level the % atk buff food is stronger tho.
Unless you want to go critfishing
decaying winter from hit dev zym
feels like to me that intuitively it should be the other way around, no? your atk% would get hella diluted
actually i might just be biased cause half my roster uses atk% weapons
yea but 11% crit chance 🤤
this character make me curious
Just crit all the time
In theory it's possible
idk why, but I feel the one getting hit is the dumb type
wonder why
if we could buff it to at least 25% crit i think it would be more worth the trouble
atm i just don't think there is enough support
what's a good time for no food rhodagn 
isn't that just crit% weapons + ginseng atm
im fully artificed on last rite, who should i artifce next. xaihi, gilberta, or ardelia
just crit
i heard talks of ||lv 90 gear coming|| but idk if its true or how it works so take that how you will
its only 50% tho, you have to sac actual scaling dmg to hit that
not worth it
rip
yea im just saying like those are the only times youd run crit% builds in 1.0
without real crit dmg support its fishing for ok numbers
just scale the damage properly
and you will have more reliable success
shit even in wow if you can't hit at least 35% crit on a dps character its not worth shooting for
i heard from some of my friends who play actual games that they never settle for anything under 75/250
Crit fishing in the streets theory crafting in my sheets 
75% crit chance, 250% crit dmg
but that game has the support to do it
yea thats POE logic
and thats really the baseline to start a crit build properly
i wonder if we'll get dedicated crit builds in ef
or if it'll just stay as a way to mald one shots
id imagine eventually we will

just isn't there atm
honestly i hope they dont go all out and take the "every build a must have crit or its shit" route
i'm kinda hopeing they don't start to go that direction
yvonne already kinda
ok but yv*nne (i dont actually know why shes so shitted on)
Yvonne kinda needs a support that buffs CDmg, crit is really mid rn
ill find out one day when i care about her
i wouldn't mind a food for crit dmg
does anyone know how much the stat increase is for max artificed gear?
but once they start making gear for it, i don't think there will be a better route for dmg than that
you can google it
its on wiki
1.3x
I don't settle for anything under sure crits
id take anything past 85% i think





