#theorycrafting

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gritty olive
shut cobalt
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?

heady pine
# shut cobalt ?

it says "better than before" so the revamp presumably is better than what you were using before

dire owl
# shut cobalt ?

thats kinda just how the writer talks. very dry and matter of fact, but im not getting an "its trash now" vibe from the note

dry kindle
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Its damage over entire rhodagn kill timeline

shut cobalt
dire owl
ivory widget
shut cobalt
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actually L.ult too

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i dont think he mentions what those mean anywhere?

ivory widget
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No way P0 Artzy is equal to P5 Wedge

dire owl
shut cobalt
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i assume it is anyways

dire owl
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yeesh

dry kindle
ivory widget
dire owl
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on the one hand, credit to the one who put it together, on the other, its not the easiest thing to look at lol

dire owl
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maybe vuln applications or something? idk thats my best guess

shut cobalt
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i c, what about the other things i said? (bs, breach-4 and l.ult)

ivory widget
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If you have to consume 4 cryo stacks 6 times with Yvonne P5 Wedge will still come out ahead of P0 Artzy by a solid margin

normal tangle
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why they got fl studio for endfield rotations 😭

dry kindle
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Red dots are hits

dire owl
dry kindle
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https://youtu.be/SRociiQYiR0 welp there it is 🔥

I wasted so much time dealing with the tentacles, that part could be faster if optimized better

Had to change up the build for this one. During the final phase, I needed to time the second burst rotation during the stagger window. It meant I could only use two SP to regain my ults, so Fluorite had to use Ult Gain% Armor. Honestly I think I like...

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edgy crater
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kelsuis had done it

dry kindle
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Yea

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Where's catcher trim now

edgy crater
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u do it lah

dry kindle
edgy crater
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wtf surtr crit build

frozen tide
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It might be the dps ceiling

wind nebula
dry kindle
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Mfw dps pog

frozen tide
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"catcher ember trim"

dry kindle
frozen tide
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Looks inside

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Pog chen

dry kindle
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Well

dawn patrol
dry kindle
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4 something hours till umbral

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Can't wait to run in circles 🔥

wind nebula
dry kindle
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Fuck me I cant @time on mobile

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<t:1760414400:F>

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Bleh

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The fuck is that

dawn patrol
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that's in like 2 hours

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2 and a half

wind nebula
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Hmm, yes Umbral actually came out 4 months ago

dry kindle
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<t:1770868800:R>

rugged shard
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bro went back in time

dry kindle
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Anyway

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Time to cope umbral is weekly reset

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If not

wind nebula
dire owl
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apparently people dont look at months or days

supple epoch
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February 12-26th iirc was the listed dates

supple tartan
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Why is gilberta so essential fpr yvonne?

wind nebula
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Yeah it's been made clear it's every 2 weeks

dry kindle
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Oh we're so fucked

supple tartan
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why

wind nebula
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Asia gonna have the content 14 hours prior to Global

dry kindle
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It only gives 1200 oroberyl per reset heh

supple tartan
wind nebula
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I never found the source for those claims, but I read the same thing in many places

dry kindle
shut cobalt
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are these final sets btw? (idc about anything for laev other than charge set since its smooth to play so exclude that)
wulf ardelia and ake

dry kindle
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Eh well find out in 3 hours

supple tartan
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can anyone tell me why everyone says gilberta is not negotiable for yvonne

supple epoch
shut cobalt
dry kindle
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Its not endgame

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Its just another chore

fringe dirge
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I'm not understanding how Gilberta works as an Yvonne support?
I find that Yvonne wants to be the one to consume solidification but Gilberta will shatter it if you use her combo skill.

dry kindle
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Unless you unplug monitor then I guess

supple epoch
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All these new gacha follow similar format unfortunately

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Even infinity Nikki 🤣

dry kindle
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Just don't unplug your mouse or something and it's fine

shut cobalt
supple epoch
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Infinity Nikki copy abyss format from genshin but it’s a fashion show with the enemy being. A mirror 🤣

supple tartan
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You know wht I crave? A gacha that doest reset the guarantee when you pull early. something that rewards luck vs rewarding unluck

dawn patrol
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sworce are u fr running crit on laev

dry kindle
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No

dawn patrol
shut cobalt
# dry kindle Wut

saw someone say umbral is 10x easier than current trimmed medal thingy?

ivory widget
grave flame
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Does it multiply the amp per Int, or the max damage bonus cap, or does it just take the bonus you already have and multiply it afterward?

shut cobalt
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for gear recs

rocky phoenix
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oops wrong place

dry kindle
shut cobalt
tight haven
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ok we dont know if they made umbral harder

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tbf

grave flame
dry kindle
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Isnt it still rec 90 for agony

shut cobalt
wind nebula
shut cobalt
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anyways, thanks

supple epoch
shut cobalt
supple epoch
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Atleast comparatively to the similar gacha games

wind nebula
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Some of the phrasing in the announcement makes it sound like the stages will have weather similar to the protocol farming stages

shut cobalt
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and maybe wulf's energy gain if he needs more than the base gear gives

mental wyvern
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me and my friend bet $20 on what rossi’s element would be he bet fire i bet nature am i screwed?

supple epoch
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Rossi wulf overload team let’s go

wind nebula
mental wyvern
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I jus think rossi could possibly be nature since ardelia was purple and she is nature

dry kindle
supple epoch
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She has some purple visuals and aesthetics

dry kindle
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This isnt pgr

mental wyvern
supple epoch
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Electric it is !

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Electrified and combustion team

mental wyvern
supple epoch
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Wulf can use his actual kit ???

mental wyvern
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Is what im coping with

midnight stirrup
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Rossi seems physical

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Weve already seen physical have weird ahh elements

supple epoch
midnight stirrup
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Looking at you Lifeng

amber vapor
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Ardelia is an environmental scientist though so it makes sense she is Nature

supple epoch
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I know ardelia has a cane and brown hair 🤣

mental wyvern
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Rossi a wolfgirl she nature

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she little red riding hood

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she cares for the people shes for the people

wind nebula
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Electric makes sense to go with Wulfgard actually, doesn't it. Heat/electric is paired quite often for buffs and a short electrification synergizes better with Wulfgard burst than it does with Laevetain basics

midnight stirrup
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Bro thinks shes robin hood

amber vapor
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Rossi def will be fire because she is "feral" and it seems like the fire element is either for free spirited or feral ops

supple epoch
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Little red riding hood learned to NOT stop on her way through the deep dark forest

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An important distinction

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Since last she picked flowers

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Her granma almost got eaten

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Well sometimes she did

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Idp on the story version 🤣

midnight stirrup
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Yall just making shit up atp

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What cope does to someone

supple epoch
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I’ve read like 6 diff versions of that story xD

mental wyvern
supple epoch
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It’s all the same in that distinction

mental wyvern
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LMFAOO

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What u guys think gilberta would fit well with future characters

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Only fangyi?

supple epoch
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My daughter gets a new bed time story every night (this is def not sustainable )

supple epoch
mental wyvern
amber vapor
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Someone needs to make a low tier god edit of Fangyi when she comes out

mental wyvern
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im not even using her rn i alr got lae sig team

amber vapor
supple epoch
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St Boss fight

mental wyvern
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really wit laev?

supple epoch
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Suction good for adds

mental wyvern
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Lowkey kinda ew with less heat

supple epoch
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Quick clean up and kill

mental wyvern
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but true the suction is what i really why i pulled for gilberta

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Our very own venti

supple epoch
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Every attack is aoe when they are suctioned

supple epoch
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Tho i don’t think this game has overlapping hitboxes like when venti sucks enemies into tornadoes

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It’s still great QoL for every fight that isn’t st

warm galleon
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Hi ziek 👋

potent hornet
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is there something special about the little steam vent turtles in wuling?

hexed terrace
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Aesthetic 🫦

potent hornet
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fair enough, some have more steam coming out so i thought there might be a hidden chest thing attached to them, kinda like the frogs and flies

civic rover
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.roadmap

frozen tide
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i wonder whats the sanity discount limit gonna be

supple epoch
warm galleon
supple epoch
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My bans are usually life time

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🤣

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I got banned from a wwm server for talking too much . Apparently their ToS said not to cuz ppl have anxiety

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😩

warm galleon
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Careful we're talking off-topic now we might get 9 day ban PerliWheeze

supple epoch
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Is this your main game now ?

warm galleon
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Atm yah

hexed terrace
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What does this channel even do

supple epoch
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Math !

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When math needs doing

rare rover
hexed terrace
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I want my anal hitting 1m

supple epoch
warm galleon
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I'm healer main and theorizing the team PerliFumo

supple epoch
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💀💀💀

rare rover
supple epoch
warm galleon
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Friendship ended when I got yvonne

civic rover
supple epoch
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She’s on like 5 banners ?

civic rover
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looks like global getting umbral at same time as asia

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?

supple epoch
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So you’re probably gonna get her again 🤣

warm galleon
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By experience support has the most milage so I went for gilb, got her on 120 pity but got both yvonne and laev on my way to it.

shrewd patrol
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I snabbed Angelina just in case there'll be content that favors AoE characters

potent hornet
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update time

lavish jay
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how long is the update? i didnt check, i just logged in and got kicked instantly cause it said update immenent or something in that line 🤣

potent hornet
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like 10 minutes i think

lavish jay
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whats the update about tho? 🤔

valid zealot
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New event mode

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and bug fixes prob

potent hornet
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umbral monument and some fixes

supple epoch
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Fixing annoying shield guys

potent hornet
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something about a laev abuse with switching away from her during her ult in order to also cast her battle skill

lavish jay
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ohh yeah totally forgot about umbral monument lol its today

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the shield guys are super annoying ngl.. cant group them, and u do 0 damage when they are not staggered 🙁

potent hornet
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its crazy they don't have a directional block so you can get behind them

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its just 360 shielf

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shield

lavish jay
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the only upside about those guys is, if u start attacking them, they become a punching bag and sit still

potent hornet
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They are skinny ass twigs what you talking about

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20 away from my 50/50 for gilberta, if i don't get her on that i'm probably gonna hold the rest of my pulls

steel hedge
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is it worth artificing yvonne's gear rn?

junior canopy
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Do controlled operators gain damage boosts?

manic blade
unreal light
frozen tide
unreal light
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So a team-wide damage boost would apply to everyone

eternal pilot
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crush, knock down, and lift dmg all scale from physical dmg bonus% of the character right?

valid zealot
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They do increase with phys dmg bonus.

amber vapor
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Someone did the math apparently for fully maxed out character

wind nebula
sand pike
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does Bonekrushing Smash's 3pc DMG apply to Crush or nah? I'm assuming no right

willow blade
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does the -1sec cd on leav combo skill help much? or should i max her normals to mas 3 first?

rose heath
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arclight p5 or akekuri p5 better for electric team of avy, gilberta,perlica. a lot saying akekuri better so not sure if i should build her

proud vector
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PerliWheeze isn’t arclight kinda core

noble tapir
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How does m3 combo skill help endmin/physical team?

valid zealot
noble tapir
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Damn ok

proud vector
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Like yes Perlica can give a nice level 1 electrification but

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Arclight can ult pretty often and generate higher level electrifications if you have enough infusion

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PerliStareYou generating SP is pretty goood

noble tapir
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According to the guide on pins they’re interchangeable

sand pike
proud vector
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PerliDerp ah right pre placed spear nukes

valid zealot
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Interchangeable, Ake is easier to use.

proud vector
sand pike
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chat Bonekrusha or Swordmancer Endmin?

wind nebula
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Arclight does less mental damage to the player

sand pike
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assuming the sustainless setup

lime bear
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is Umbral out

noble tapir
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Swordmancer

proud vector
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I mean fair enough I suppose

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PerliWaaaaa R.I.P. arclight, you’ll find more fans next time

sand pike
wind nebula
sand pike
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why tho, I feel like I just end up applying all of my vuln stacks with Chen and Lifeng

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and I only use endmin crush during stagger windows

valid zealot
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Just good individual pieces.

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Bonekrusher is okay, just play better.

wind nebula
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It always feels like trying to regularly use the swordmancer passive on Endmin just breaks your ability to setup for bursts

sand pike
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yea, Lifeng ends up with less energy 💀

dry kindle
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Can't wait for maint to start 🗣️

potent hornet
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is that fog of war spot in the west of orignium science park tied to a prosperity quest>?

sand pike
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didn't Maint already end

dry kindle
sand pike
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this is NOT fgo christmas 2018 bro 🥀

peak void
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this IS fgo christmas 2019 👍

sand pike
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I forgot which one had the long af maint

hexed prairie
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do u guys know what website this is?

sand pike
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Yvonne SS 💀

willow blade
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leav normals > combo right?

junior canopy
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Avy is easily SSS

valid zealot
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Right.

naive ice
dawn patrol
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is that yvonne ss tier

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ain't no way

willow blade
rare zodiac
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Lmao Assvonne higher than LR

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Chen at a tier PerliWheeze try to phys without chen pls, i will wait

willow blade
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leav mastery normals > mastery combos?

rare zodiac
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Combo at m3 have -1cd so I would prefer combo

willow blade
frozen tide
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yvonne ss tier confirmed

frozen tide
dawn patrol
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i would m3 normal first bc finisher but that's just me

willow blade
rare zodiac
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And since when 2 vul with 100 sp is considered Average tier

frozen tide
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alesh a tier kinda crazy as well

dawn patrol
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alesh gonna be in s tier when we get a real shatter dps trust

frozen tide
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😭

rare zodiac
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SS tier if considering lucksac PerliWheeze

frozen tide
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xaihi gonna be ssss tier when we get a non chud cryo dps

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make a new tier for her

dawn patrol
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lr is right there cro

rare zodiac
willow blade
frozen tide
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lr is carried by xaihi not other way around

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😭

rare zodiac
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Or Ice Wulf

frozen tide
rare zodiac
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3 stack with 100 sp is crazy work

rare zodiac
rare zodiac
frozen tide
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antal is 1/3rd of xaihi

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im not joking

proud vector
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PerliWaaaaa poor lizard

rare zodiac
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That assumes you can reach 1200 int

naive ice
frozen tide
rare zodiac
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Best i can do is 800 with high enough efficiency to ult when necessary

proud vector
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Idk Prydwen read on AK:EN isn’t super far off as far as I can tell

frozen tide
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assuming current max int

naive ice
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i also think prydwen's bad rep is somewhat unjustified but that's another discussion lol

frozen tide
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shes 3 times higher amp than lizard

dawn patrol
frozen tide
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you can get about 690 int currently which means ult alone p5 is 49 percent amp

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but xaihi has other sources of buffs/debuffs as well

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her bs activation at full hp is like 20 percent

dawn patrol
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when does umbral drop again

proud vector
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PerliWheeze to be honest a 49% amp is terrifyingly high

frozen tide
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her cs hit applies susc

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and she procs deto

frozen tide
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this is post heavy nerfing

dry kindle
dawn patrol
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time to hop on ig

frozen tide
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xaihi in beta was a monster

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so was antal and ake tbf

rare zodiac
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Xaihi now is still a monster

frozen tide
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all the supps got nerfed

proud vector
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The benefits of a nearly exclusive damage bucket goes hard

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PerliWheeze I fear what a true limited premium support can do

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If this is a 5*

rare zodiac
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When Ice Wulf? When heat Xaihi

ivory widget
noble tapir
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Rossi is just around the corner boys

proud vector
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PerliDerp if Rossi is a vanguard then my laevless ass is burnt toast

ivory widget
# frozen tide

Yeah I know it's damage taken, it just doesn't explicitly call it susceptability

rare zodiac
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That is on dmg taken bucket no?

dry kindle
frozen tide
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with specifics

rare zodiac
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Dmg taken and sus is different bucket

valid zealot
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.umbral

floral saffron
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will food buffs work in agony or nah

dry kindle
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No

frozen tide
ivory widget
noble tapir
dry kindle
frozen tide
ivory widget
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^

frozen tide
dry kindle
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That's true

ivory widget
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I'm actually curious about the answer now

dry kindle
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Dealt x taken x amp x suscept

frozen tide
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god i love xaihi

floral saffron
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i thought someone said we were gonna get 2400 from umbral

dry kindle
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2400 from both phases

proud vector
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How much is it

dry kindle
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1200 per phase

floral saffron
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wow thats cheap

proud vector
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4.8 pulls per 2 weeks

ivory widget
frozen tide
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damn

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insane

noble tapir
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Wuwa Toa is like 700 asterite or something like that iirc. So similar

frozen tide
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quick xaihi flex rq

dry kindle
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Same for each stage

frozen tide
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starry is goated then

noble tapir
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Waiting till I get Yvonne to build xaihi. Focused on physical team for now.

It’s so expensive :(

frozen tide
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at 9/9 its 25 percent i think

proud vector
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Oh is this why people don’t recommend detonation unit anymore

valid zealot
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Diff condition.

proud vector
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Like it giving will since mainstat

rare zodiac
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Why??

naive ice
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wow what, i just peeped the phys page overhaul on iana's sheet

frozen tide
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its on ard

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i use deto on xasi

rare zodiac
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I thought that there is some cursed knowledge that I haven’t accounted

noble tapir
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I should just grab detonation unit from this weapon chest. It’d be good for antal too

proud vector
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PerliDerp Is deto still good on Xaihi or is the intellect stacking too stronk

valid zealot
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Umbral agony.

dawn patrol
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oh

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Soon™

noble tapir
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I got two teams ready for umbral. Though I’ll probably just ride with laev since she’s actually juiced

proud vector
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Do we need 2 teams for sure

noble tapir
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No

rare zodiac
proud vector
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O it does do that doesn’t it

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PerliStareYou idk I just keep running into sites that don’t even list deto for Xaihi

frozen tide
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what do they list

rare zodiac
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Probably Chiv

frozen tide
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weird

outer ermine
valid zealot
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What is deto unit trigger btw

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Art reaction?

proud vector
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Arts burst

rare zodiac
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Art burst

proud vector
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So you can see why it’s like damn good on Xaihi

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Honestly it’s probably a great baseline for any infliction stacking caster

rare zodiac
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I think it’s damn good on pretty much everyone with infliction

frozen tide
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deto used to be much better for xai

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it used to be int main stat

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instead of will

proud vector
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O lol

frozen tide
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which would result in 1k+ int xaihi

proud vector
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So that’s what they mean by deto nerf

frozen tide
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rite also used to do more dmg i think

proud vector
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Yeah they toned down the damage numbers

rare zodiac
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Xai/Wulf is too good, need them on every element

proud vector
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Honestly? The nerfs were probably needed

bitter cobalt
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whats the max int possible on xaihi rn

frozen tide
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690 with deto but higher is probs technically possible

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with an int main stat weap

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tho its not actually worth

rare zodiac
frozen tide
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since theres none with good passive for xai

proud vector
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Even Chiv is wis

rare zodiac
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Chiv is ass

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Why hp%?

proud vector
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Atk% I guess

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On a party buff on…

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Wait does it even trigger if you are full hp

frozen tide
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starry and oblivion would technically be max int setup for xai

valid zealot
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Yes.

frozen tide
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but dont do allat

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😭

proud vector
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PerliStare it’s kind of a shame really that we have to stack int and not Wis

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Arts burst damage is still damage

frozen tide
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ehh

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xaihi still busted

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i take it

proud vector
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Amp is amp

rare zodiac
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Still Bennett of Endfield

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Crack af

proud vector
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A bit more limited

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I would argue that Perlica might be the Bennett of endfield LOL

valid zealot
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That goes to Ake.

proud vector
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PerliStareYou valid for contention

potent hornet
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any of the players on the chinese side been doing umbral?

valid zealot
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It's easy.

proud vector
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What about hard mode for trim

rare zodiac
frozen tide
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bennett of endfield

ocean hawk
frozen tide
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sorta kinda gilb

peak void
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is umbral out

frozen tide
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her ult is aoe buff

valid zealot
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Who is myrtle I don't play Arknights.

dire nymph
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wdf my ai keeps dying

ocean hawk
peak void
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nice

proud vector
dire nymph
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here

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just dodge

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lol

rare zodiac
valid zealot
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You can kinda no need for sustain still.

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:clueless:

dry kindle
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So

dire nymph
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its like

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10 minutes

proud vector
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PerliStare ok that’s funny and based

willow blade
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should i m3 ardelia's bs or should i m1 both leav's combo and normals (ill prob do both as time goes on this is just for what to do first)

dire nymph
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just right click

proud vector
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Fair nuff

rare zodiac
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Bennett buff like 1k atk and still heal for 12k/s is insane

proud vector
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It’s probably a symptom of leaving our support ops kinda underfunded lol

dire nymph
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its phys

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everyones at least 80

proud vector
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PerliDerp oh lord what is going to happen to the lv 60 supports in arts teams

dire nymph
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ardelia ig

valid zealot
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My 20 wulf

proud vector
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Well I guess that is one way to make sustain relevant LOL

frozen tide
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i have never had my off field die after i finished leveling

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i dont even use good heals on em

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just yahzen syringe

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their ai is made to dodge every heavy attack

ocean hawk
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on agony

willow blade
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should i m3 ardelia's bs or should i m1 both leav's combo and normals (ill prob do both as time goes on this is just for what to do first) (already m3ed bs and ult on leav)

frozen tide
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m3 dps before supps

outer ermine
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-200k tcreds

proud vector
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Wild

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Misappropriating your Tangtang resources like how our glorious chief mismanages the local industrial funding

frozen tide
blazing lake
willow blade
outer ermine
noble tapir
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Why does endmin ult directly after pog ult in the 4/3/4 rotation? Is it just for pog ult proc?

icy ginkgo
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is that it

outer ermine
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bros living in the future

proud vector
floral saffron
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its not designed to be super hard

proud vector
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The crystal will pop to physical status so gotta get it popped earlier I guess

noble tapir
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You could use it in a later part of the sequence where you have vulnerability stacked is my point

ocean hawk
ocean hawk
blazing lake
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where

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how

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where

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how

dire nymph
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agony

#

umbral

icy ginkgo
#

umbral

blazing lake
#

asia servers?

dire nymph
#

ye

ocean hawk
#

ye

blazing lake
#

fuck that

dire nymph
#

wait 20 hours or something

#

timezonegapped

ocean hawk
blazing lake
#

im finna go crazy

icy ginkgo
#

timezonemaxxing

proud vector
dawn peak
#

this was easier than expected

proud vector
#

You want specifically the ult to shatter them to get the extra bonus hit on ult

#

Needs to happen before anything that would lift/knock/crush/breach which is like most things haha

wind nebula
dawn peak
icy ginkgo
#

no way this is the endgame right

valid zealot
#

It is the endfield.

icy ginkgo
#

ah well

#

LOL THEY VOIDED MY JINCAO DRINKS 😭

dry kindle
#

Probably

noble tapir
dense plank
#

if I had to guess it being the first in the lineup means its just one of the easier ones (I hope)

noble tapir
#

Oh, I thought you did, my bad then

icy ginkgo
#

1st stage without a healer is cancer

dry kindle
#

Vuln is just phys arts inflict

dawn peak
ocean hawk
dense plank
#

not entirely, I cleared it with avy team with just gilberta and her heal is dog

dry kindle
#

Gilberta doesn't heal

icy ginkgo
#

they had triaggelos in the cbt 1 roguelike surely theyll add the bosses here

ocean hawk
#

but smol

dawn peak
dense plank
#

she does infact, 'kind of' heal

dry kindle
proud vector
#

Doesn’t Gilberta have a healing talent

icy ginkgo
dense plank
#

yeah just clear it faster

dry kindle
#

Idr any heal in her kit

icy ginkgo
#

you need to hit 2 people

dense plank
wind nebula
dense plank
gaunt hill
#

will there be more umbral monument things?

dry kindle
ocean hawk
#

inorganic constructs

#

iirc

dry kindle
dense plank
#

it looks like a per month thing

gaunt hill
dry kindle
gaunt hill
dense plank
#

wait no the event ends in one month

ocean hawk
#

yeah @gaunt hill

#

.roadmap

gaunt hill
#

wait so umbral monument is the name of the event, inorganic construct is the sub event?

ocean hawk
#

the umbral monument is the game mode

#

the theme title / sub title

gaunt hill
ocean hawk
#

is "Those Forsaken by the Land"

#

and

#

"Inorganic Construct"

gaunt hill
#

thanks guys 🙏

gaunt hill
ocean hawk
#

and the monumental etching, is the event name

valid zealot
#

No problem that'll be $30000

ocean hawk
gaunt hill
dry kindle
dense plank
#

stage 2 is pretty funny with gilberta though PerliFumo

ocean hawk
#

make all that archer

#

pulled into 1 spot

dry kindle
#

Man crit laev is so ass

dense plank
#

gilberta stonks

thorn lagoon
noble tapir
dawn peak
thorn lagoon
#

Dayum you give me heart attck with that extra 0 😂

ocean hawk
dry kindle
#

1200 per phase

#

2 phase a month or something

dawn peak
#

3600 in total if its still the same for the other two

thorn lagoon
#

I see, thanks

willow helm
#

queen gilb

dense plank
#

so the running theme here is landbreakers, the aggeloi, would the third one be a boss gauntlet or it has to wait until they release more pirates PerliStare

eternal pilot
#

hi, whats the team gonna be if i need to insert ardelia in my sustainless physical (endmin lifeng pog chen)
need a healer cause the debuff of the new endgame gets to me

eternal pilot
#

tyyy

dense plank
#

yeah how is the phys experience for umbral

dense plank
earnest patio
#

more level up needed or its fine

dawn patrol
outer ermine
#

nice hp

dawn patrol
#

i'm bad at the game 💔

earnest patio
eternal pilot
brisk basalt
lime bear
#

bruh I'm so fucking skill issue for the third one

#

keep dying the ballistas so annoying istg

ocean hawk
#

like

#

i cant trigger the evade slow mo

#

hate that

potent hornet
#

is it jumpable?

#

i don't have access until tomorrow sadly

edgy crater
civic rover
#

Any Asia players. What’s the weapon in the arsenal rotation

ocean hawk
dry kindle
#

No stanza

#

Ew

swift tundra
#

how much oros is rewarded from the new "endgame"?

dawn patrol
#

1200

dry kindle
#

2400 a month probably

civic rover
dawn patrol
#

atp just bring back annihilations

#

give me back my 1800/w

swift tundra
#

I thought they'll give at least 5... What about that old wounds event that wasn't featured in beta?

#

nvm, just checked it's called inorganic construct and it's coming on the 26th

crude crag
lime bear
#

keep dying left and right bitch ass

crude crag
frozen tide
lime bear
#

just stall around

crude crag
potent hornet
#

what are the meta food stuffs for buffs?

crude crag
#

snowshine has 5 sec immune cc, so my last rite final strike does not get interrupted

undone condor
peak void
#

crit fishing fun PerliDerp

#

also easier recipe iirc

outer ermine
#

crit supremacy

#

PerliFumo cant fully abuse jakubs atk% if u dont crit

heavy zealot
#

but like crit is only 50% crit dmg

civic wolf
#

So i guess Lav meta team isn't as good? kept dying as Lav because this game enemy attack pattern design is garbage but 10 mins is plenty

#

is there any possible slot in that would increase the team's survivability

heavy zealot
civic wolf
#

yep

#

Agony mode is just garbage

sly nymph
#

not even 5 pulls a month from endgame mode?? 😭

civic wolf
#

this game without tacticles just makes no sense

lime bear
heavy zealot
#

I have no problems with Laev in all agony stages

lime bear
#

just took longer

sly nymph
#

skill issue

civic wolf
#

should i level Ardelia's something else to makeher heal more

civic wolf
#

Lv80?

lime bear
heavy zealot
lime bear
#

only the 3rd I really struggle

crude crag
lime bear
#

idfk why

ocean hawk
#

laev team clearing this umbral soo easily

civic wolf
#

Lava holy vfx slop

ocean hawk
dry kindle
lime bear
#

I think it's just dodge issue

heavy zealot
civic wolf
#

Gonna complain until they change enemy attack color

crude crag
sly nymph
#

you have iframes

#

use those

crude crag
dusk zenith
#

does the 4/3/4 rot need m1 on pog’s skill and ult?

civic wolf
#

I think the part where the game makes the least sense is your skills not being immediate to coutner red circle

#

my lava just died just now because her skill isn't fast enough

sly nymph
#

is the issue

civic wolf
edgy crater
civic wolf
#

i mean no pulls from agony mode but its still very strange

ocean hawk
#

coz I were talking about the slow mo one

swift tundra
cinder oxide
#

FK THE WORMS IN UMBRAL 2

#

I AGONIED ALL OF THEM

#

BUT THE WORMS TOOK THE MOST TRIES

#

AGAIN F THE WORMS

dawn patrol
#

worm

undone condor
#

Getting close to solo chen trims

valid zealot
#

Weird taste but okay.

civic wolf
dawn patrol
#

umbral wasn't that bad but it was a little annoying

civic wolf
#

straight up i'll have less problems with it if agony mode did not exist

#

the game

#

is NOT designed around not having tacticals

dawn patrol
#

first stage was kinda bruhhhhhh with lvl60 supports

civic wolf
#

and i refuse to believe this isn't the case

ocean hawk
#

well, no one force u to do the agony one

civic wolf
#

i maen

dry kindle
civic wolf
#

yeah

#

but the fact that it even exist in the first place

#

sets a concerning precedent

ocean hawk
#

what?

civic wolf
#

as in

#

they MIGHT double down on this standards in the future

ocean hawk
#

on many gacha games, endgame is optional

cinder oxide
#

Got them flexes lmao

ocean hawk
#

its just a must for f2p since its their main source of income

ocean hawk
#

no tactical one ?

#

on agony ?

civic wolf
#

yeah

lime bear
civic wolf
#

agony

ocean hawk
#

its normal

#

again

civic wolf
#

no its not for this game

ocean hawk
#

agony is extra

civic wolf
#

this game doesn't make sense

ocean hawk
#

no one forces u

civic wolf
#

without tacticals

errant mirage
#

you get the main rewards from normals

ocean hawk
#

it makes sense

lime bear
civic wolf
#

if future endgame content is designed without tacticals then we're cooked

lime bear
#

just dodge or brute force kill it

ocean hawk
errant mirage
#

seems like a skill issue more than anything

lime bear
#

bring healer

ocean hawk
#

build properly

heavy zealot
#

just git gud

ocean hawk
#

and use the team properly

lime bear
civic wolf
#

Already have Ardelia and its not enough

lime bear
civic wolf
#

maybe i need more sustain characters

ocean hawk
#

but

lime bear
#

it's ok just get Ember

ocean hawk
#

bruteforcing using sustain is not the correct answer too

#

learn the mechanism imo

civic wolf
ocean hawk
#

u said u had issue with the enemy red circle (the one u need to use skills to break)

civic wolf
#

i'll complain until they change the enemy attack color from red to white

ocean hawk
#

and u choose the slowest char bs which is lae

ocean hawk
civic wolf
frozen tide
#

what is he trynna kill

errant mirage
#

red is like the standard for "DODGE THIS MOVE". or danger in general

ocean hawk
#

since he using lae

#

he cant see the warning

civic wolf
#

i dont like Zenless, but at least their fire color is orange

errant mirage
#

its also a vertical circle around the enemy

frozen tide
#

i did not know thats a thing on lae

ocean hawk
heavy zealot
#

laev's attack is not even the same blood red color of their attacks

ocean hawk
#

not the circle one around the enemy

errant mirage
#

oh that one

ocean hawk
#

yeah

edgy crater
valid zealot
#

Eye it better

ocean hawk
noble tapir
#

It's so hard for me to decide what skills are worth leveling up first for physical team

#

Like do I prioritize leveling up chen bs/cs or endmin cs

wooden cypress
#

slow and steady

#

I would personally lvl up your operators first

civic wolf
#

so is level80 supports a must for better survival

wooden cypress
#

main dps to lvl 90 and your other teammates to lvl 80

#

then go for skills/weps

frozen tide
#

in a cycle there are diff ratios of dmg output each skill contributes to

wooden cypress
#

thats the best survival

frozen tide
#

level highest dmg dealing skills first

#

then highest buffing

civic wolf
#

they WILL TAKE DAMAGE

wooden cypress
#

oh

frozen tide
#

if that even applies for phys

wooden cypress
#

they usually dont take dmg on mine lol

civic wolf
#

it isn't just my Lav, EVERYONE is dying

frozen tide
#

does phys buff buffs with talent lvl

wooden cypress
#

they dodge pretty well

#

even moreso than me sometimes

civic wolf
#

no they dont

#

i saw them take triangle meteors in the face

#

braindead

ocean hawk
#

so....

wooden cypress
#

oh those yea they struggle with those

ocean hawk
#

the thing is

#

that meteor

wooden cypress
#

but with mobs/elite mobs? theyre fine

ocean hawk
#

is kinda.....

undone condor
#

what's agony?

wooden cypress
civic wolf
#

the point is that they take damage and there's nothing u can do about it but bringing better sustain

noble tapir
undone condor
wooden cypress
undone condor
ocean hawk
#

if they didnt collect mr dolly shadow

#

they wont get healed

#

(the other teammate controlled by computer)

valid zealot
#

That stage has shared heal.

civic wolf
#

have anyone tried Ember in Agony mode?

ocean hawk
valid zealot
#

So they dying in another stage?

#

idk about that.

celest carbon
#

where tf are you supposed to get standard pulls in this game i thought this endgame mode would give standard banner pulls

normal nymph
#

My little gilberta is OP is the new endgame

ocean hawk
normal nymph
ocean hawk
#

the shared healing, only work on stage one

#

its specific stage mechanics

valid zealot
modest thorn
#

so p2 ardelia has a use? 🥺

celest carbon
lavish jay
proud vector
#

It’s kinda funny

#

If the endgame mode gave standard pulls I swear some people would be like “waaaah it should have been limited pulls only!”

valid zealot
#

They could have made etch space weekly or something.

proud vector
#

PerliDerp though does it even qualify as endgame if it is easier than recrisis

proud vector
#

Yeah I’m hoping there be more tbh

#

Surely there can be some cool stuff

dry kindle
#

Standard pulls in roguelike mode weeklies

proud vector
#

PerliDerp hell even a goddamn tower defence endgame LOL

dry kindle
#

No escape

#

🗣️

proud vector
#

PerliWheeze kill enemies for materials to construct base defences

#

Add in a roguelike element to
Spice shiet up

dry kindle
#

mfw just add ra atp

proud vector
#

Elites that mog the defences normally that you have to go and punch

valid zealot
#

Put arknights in arknights endfield.

dense plank
#

maybe if the stock redistribution in wuling gets higher lv but like thats still a one time thing PerliDerp

celest carbon
#

just gotta wait until they release more gamemodes ig

urban plaza
#

Especially when pulling units is your main way to get weapon pulls

cinder oxide
#

Endgame is done alr back to waiting PerliDerp

harsh slate
#

Man it's hard to clear the new endgame mode, Ardelia healing is good but I can't grab the sheep med when enemy chasing me

cinder oxide
harsh slate
cinder oxide
#

I bursted them down with no heals

dense plank
harsh slate
cinder oxide
# harsh slate

That’s gonna be a flex in a few days. Day one trim is kinda shnice

harsh slate
cinder oxide
mortal trellis
#

i've been running out of stamina doing chen's double animation cancel pretty frequently making it annoying to dodge attacks when i'm not careful, would it be reasonable to do smth like this in combat? ofc assuming the person youre swapping to isn't busy

cinder oxide
mortal trellis
#

ig just needs practice

#

i might rebind too, f3 f4 kinda piss to hit mid-combat

fleet robin
#

do meat ball and soup stacks, I only got 11.4% from a supposedly 31% increase

mortal trellis
#

fairly certain food buffs overwrite each other

mortal trellis
#

im assuming you have wuling buffs + ginseng stew active

mortal trellis
#

which why you have 4 buff icons
5% defense
5% atk
+180 atk
+11% crit chance

#

oh shadow (idk you seem knowledgeable), dyk what a good no food phys rhodagn time is nhd

fleet robin
mortal trellis
#

180 atk takes place with your atk boost and is multiplied by your attributes

#

so if you have 500 base atk from op + wep, 30% atk boost from wep, 300% atk scaling from attributes, youd have [500 + (500 * 0.3)] * 3 = 1950 atk

mortal trellis
#

if you eat ginseng that formula would become [500 + (500 * 0.3) + 180] * 3 = 2490 atk

dry kindle
#

You can just do 500*1.3 cardi

mortal trellis
#

ye but its less confusing this way when you add ginseng

#

at least to me shrug

dry kindle
mortal trellis
#

gfl from hit ceo haimao

dry kindle
urban plaza
#

At high investment level the % atk buff food is stronger tho.
Unless you want to go critfishing

mortal trellis
#

decaying winter from hit dev zym

mortal trellis
#

actually i might just be biased cause half my roster uses atk% weapons

dry kindle
#

Its 27% atk

mortal trellis
#

yea but 11% crit chance 🤤

dry kindle
mortal trellis
#

just get lucky and its +50% dmg

#

how busted

ocean hawk
urban plaza
#

Just crit all the time
In theory it's possible

ocean hawk
#

idk why, but I feel the one getting hit is the dumb type

mortal trellis
#

wonder why

potent hornet
#

if we could buff it to at least 25% crit i think it would be more worth the trouble

#

atm i just don't think there is enough support

mortal trellis
#

what's a good time for no food rhodagn naruhodie

mortal trellis
civic rover
#

im fully artificed on last rite, who should i artifce next. xaihi, gilberta, or ardelia

outer ermine
#

PerliDerp just crit

mortal trellis
potent hornet
#

not worth it

mortal trellis
potent hornet
#

without real crit dmg support its fishing for ok numbers

#

just scale the damage properly

#

and you will have more reliable success

#

shit even in wow if you can't hit at least 35% crit on a dps character its not worth shooting for

mortal trellis
#

i heard from some of my friends who play actual games that they never settle for anything under 75/250

manic blade
#

Crit fishing in the streets theory crafting in my sheets SHEESH

mortal trellis
#

75% crit chance, 250% crit dmg

potent hornet
#

but that game has the support to do it

#

yea thats POE logic

#

and thats really the baseline to start a crit build properly

mortal trellis
#

i wonder if we'll get dedicated crit builds in ef

#

or if it'll just stay as a way to mald one shots

potent hornet
#

id imagine eventually we will

mortal trellis
potent hornet
#

just isn't there atm

mortal trellis
#

honestly i hope they dont go all out and take the "every build a must have crit or its shit" route

potent hornet
#

i'm kinda hopeing they don't start to go that direction

frozen tide
potent hornet
#

she is the only one

#

and she is mid/high tier because of the lack of support

mortal trellis
#

ok but yv*nne (i dont actually know why shes so shitted on)

elder skiff
#

Yvonne kinda needs a support that buffs CDmg, crit is really mid rn

mortal trellis
#

ill find out one day when i care about her

potent hornet
#

i wouldn't mind a food for crit dmg

neon cave
#

does anyone know how much the stat increase is for max artificed gear?

potent hornet
#

but once they start making gear for it, i don't think there will be a better route for dmg than that

mortal trellis
#

its on wiki

mild quarry
#

1.3x

manic blade
#

When’s the real endgame coming? Not talking abt fraudal monument

dry kindle
mortal trellis
#

id take anything past 85% i think