#theorycrafting

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frigid vector
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crit fishing is not something I want to subject myself to Kek

frozen tide
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With purple

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And omg my discord is laggy

frigid vector
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same it's like 10s per message

open hare
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Me too

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It seems like the influx of messages make me lag

next helm
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Okay its not me then Peg

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It finally upgraded

frozen tide
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I think tacticals are chill i think no essence tacticals are more impressive and relatable than perfect purple essence with no food

open hare
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It took 20 seconds for that message

boreal coral
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They’re already useful since you can get +3 weapon ChenYup

next helm
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I used like 50+ essences to get 4 to 5, get the second one in 2 I can't even this game

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800 gel btw

frozen tide
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Rng be lik

next helm
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I hit 60 on bp

bronze plume
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Me when rng is a thing

next helm
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wonder how many oroberyl and other shit we can get

dry kindle
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Fraudan or all 3

next helm
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at least 9x the boxes from just login

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I could track it PES_Think

frigid vector
frozen tide
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True

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Are you also doing p0s

frigid vector
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p0 for 6* units

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pwhatever for 5*s that I have

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only p3 avy rn which fucks with ultimate thresholds

next helm
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M0?

frigid vector
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all weapons p0 ye

next helm
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skill masteries

frigid vector
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oh

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yeah, no masteries

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not like I managed it so just a concept for now

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slowly trying to refine routes for 2nd staggers when I find the time between other vids Deadge

frozen tide
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P0 m0 no tacticals no 6 star weaps no limited 6 star chars no essence no perfect dodges no stacking more than 2 buffs/debuffs at any given time

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There we go its relatable now

frigid vector
bronze plume
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Just press the rety button 50 times im sure itll be worth ir

frigid vector
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honestly if not for gil

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no perfect dodges is actually not a bad thing because of the timestop lol

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I WISH we had a retry button

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having to load back in everytime I need to restart is absolute ass

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I'm putting that on every feedback form from here onwards

bronze plume
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tis shit why i dont care about the trims

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waste of time

frozen tide
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I think re crisis ult and hp bar should be separate from overworld

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So you should always start with full both

frigid vector
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I agree, very easy to cheese

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I think it should be full HP and 0 ult

bronze plume
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yeah they made re crisis a joke

frozen tide
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Hmm

frigid vector
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in fact if you're on avy

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you can double cheese

frozen tide
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But then my 12 second rhodagan

frigid vector
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actually maybe I should do that just to take the piss

bronze plume
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i guess its for the sake of farming mats shouldnt be hard

frigid vector
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you can set up spears*

bronze plume
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but bro its the endgame mat

frigid vector
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then start the fight and recall them

bronze plume
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make it at least a challenge a little

frozen tide
bronze plume
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6-8 each run

frozen tide
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Crisis drills gives 6 guaranteed per 80 sanity

bronze plume
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with a small chance of getting other ones idk the amount

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oh wait re crisis

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im tripping

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what mf is re crisis

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is that the bosses one

frozen tide
frigid vector
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re crisis are bosses ye

bronze plume
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if its the same as cbt2

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that shit aint worth it lol

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idk remember the amount it gave

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but it was bad

boreal coral
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Surely the p5 weapon bonus makes ult spam the best for lae?

frozen tide
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Depends on timeline i believe

boreal coral
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True, but the separation should be more apparent as fights become longer. Assuming boss doesn’t die in 1-2 ults

remote fern
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What do you guys think about this build for Wolf?

frozen tide
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If you find a rot that has full uptime on the set might be dec

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Its for wulf main dps right

remote fern
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Yah

swift tundra
hasty grail
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I think it's his best set for mdps? you get more skill dmg bonus from the set than hot works even without your set bonus and the set bonus is just extra even if you can't upkeep it

frozen tide
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Hot works should be better if you can have it up but not sure how realistic that is for wulf mdps

remote fern
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Would the build also work as sub DPS or there something different?

frozen tide
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I don't think theres a good pyro app supp

lime bear
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chat what's monumental etching

foggy birch
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Guys what's the difference between gold and purple essences?

lime bear
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different than Umbral?

frozen tide
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And gold can be +4+5+6

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On non weapon passive

summer flower
oak sorrel
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What Animal does Last Rite resamble?

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A Squid?

lime bear
oak sorrel
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gives me that kind of vibes with the hair

frozen tide
lime bear
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not resembling any animals

frozen tide
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Sarkaz resembles demons

oak sorrel
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huh

frozen tide
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Wait thinking about it

oak sorrel
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what is Sarkaz

frozen tide
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Historically humans have called tribal or native deities demons and their own what they consider more progressive and true religious figures holy deities

oak sorrel
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Im pretty sure she looks like a squid

frozen tide
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Which is so in line with sarkaz being the og residents and being demon like

light brook
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for laevtain team with antal, what food goes to what operator?

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trying to trim Triaggelos medal

frozen tide
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Probs ginseng laev perplexing medicine supps

oak sorrel
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She wants double the nomnom

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expansive Lady

frozen tide
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She refrains from eating what her kind normally eats

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Which makes her hungry

light brook
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it does say she feels bad for eating a lot at a buffet style canteen lol

oak sorrel
frozen tide
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She is a nachzehrer

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Shes trying her best

ashen scroll
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I hate her

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I want to punch her when she does all that shy emote

gritty olive
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More

ashen scroll
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Withered Court is not pleased

frozen tide
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They can respectfully keep whitering away

ashen scroll
swift tundra
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Found speedrun videos on bilibili for 2x slab and hotworks set comparison.
Conclusion, hotworks is better if you are a good player.
In one video, comparing side by side, same rotations, hot works clears faster by 4 seconds on lvl 90 Rhodagn. 88s vs 92s. (Wulfguard, akekuri, Antal team)
In another video, 2x slab showcase with wulfguard, akekuri, Antal team clears
Rhodagn in 1 minute. P1+1 tho, however, uploader mentions it shouldn't matter because you're not using battle skill during Ult. Mentions that the advantage of this set is ease of execution and abundant SP so you can actually use clannibal.
Take it for what you will. 🤷

peak void
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Ill hate slab slop any day

ashen scroll
summer flower
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And you know if people could do 4 they would do it

rare zodiac
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If we can have 4 kit slot

echo crown
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are there any sheeters for this game? i wanna see the numbers

rare zodiac
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This just appeared in my mind but LR combat seems familiar, inflicting stack, consume stack to jump you with the force of a thousand sun. Is she…. Darius?

ashen scroll
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LR?

rare zodiac
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Last Rite

quaint matrix
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if i use sanity extractor the sanity i get is timed or no?

ashen scroll
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Who is darius

regal fractal
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What's are pog ult charge breakpoints and what are they for?

soft osprey
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steel is probably for something in a later update so i guess i'll hold on to a few thousand

frozen tide
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Ult charge breakpoints are just when you get ult

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You want to hit certain breakpoints so cycles are smooth and seemless

swift tundra
frozen tide
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Pog ult is a big source of sp and phys team eats sp for breakfast and lunch

bronze plume
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what do they eat for dinner

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vuln stacks?

frozen tide
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Yes

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And they shit out stagger

bronze plume
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thats not surprising

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when i game has a physical dmg type and a stagger system normally physical focused teams do lots of it

frozen tide
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I like phys in this game

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Unique and not dogshit

harsh slate
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Yay got the collab characters on oh ak

frozen tide
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Ohak

harsh slate
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OG Arknights

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Auto correct

echo crown
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how much of a dps loss % am i getting for using ember instead of lae's bis team?

foggy birch
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Hey chat anyone have like charts or notes for artificing?

daring dove
harsh slate
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Survival perhaps? Or just running for the Fav character

lime nacelle
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BEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME?! angry_cry

bronze plume
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survival makes no sense since ard is in the team

echo crown
frozen tide
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Ember is not a viable replacement in a laev pyro comp in the sloghtest

echo crown
frozen tide
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Ember can only rly be substituted in on phys

echo crown
frozen tide
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Ain't nobody calculating ember laev comp rotation output

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Im sorry

bronze plume
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you dont need the numbers to know that youre losing a lot of damage from it

frozen tide
daring dove
# echo crown yup

So that 14% DPS lost instantly, then there’s the extra time it’ll take to stack heat inflictions & the SP loss likely in the ballpark of -30% DPS.

ashen scroll
frozen tide
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People generally don't care to fully calculate very clearly sub optimal team comps

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Because finding and calculating optimal timelines takes a lot of time

echo crown
lime nacelle
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It's not viable to work out the exact percentage in terms of DPS that you're missing from replacing a character like Akekuri, because factoring in SP usage is a lot more complicated than other stuff.

bronze plume
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shocking stats take time

daring dove
# echo crown oh lae is on her sig

Akekuri uses Thermite cutter, whatever ATK% you get from Thermite cutters passive (it has two stacks). So doable it. That’s a direct DPS loss it’s likely more like 16% DPS loss once you have an essence on it.

bronze plume
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and like people have said most wont go out of there way to test a clearly obvious sub optimal team comp when it already takes lots of time to test the actually possibly good ones

frozen tide
frozen tide
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And endfield skills are bound to a shared sp bar which makes things more complicated

ashen scroll
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Tbf he come in at the wrong time , the nerdiest among us are probably still sleeping

echo crown
frozen tide
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You are talking about sheets and rotations for every comp possible

dense wraith
daring dove
# echo crown ah thanks

Just an FYI, Akekuri with Thermite cutter is pretty much an Ardelia level support. Don’t underestimate her because she’s a 4* she’s leagues better than Ember. 091_Run

frozen tide
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Im willing to bet money wuwa did not have that 2 weeks after release

calm field
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myrtle will break all comps Prayge

bronze plume
ashen scroll
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We may get saileach

bronze plume
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and we may get literally anyone whos ever been infected

boreal coral
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For lae ake wulf, should we be applying heat stacks with ake or wulf BA? Cuz ake should be able to proc his combo skill

bronze plume
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ake

boreal coral
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We should use lae for the third stack?

earnest patio
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Good match means higher chances of artifice?

ashen scroll
echo crown
frozen tide
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You aren't wasting her

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You can't waste trash

bronze plume
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^

brisk pecan
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you can use her in a phys comp if you really want

ashen scroll
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Her base skill are decent

echo crown
foggy birch
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Ultimate dmg bonus or physical dmg bonus on endmin? I'm running physical team

frozen tide
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Ember is an acceptable substitute for lifeng if not going for speedkills

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She just does not work with laev to any capacity

bronze plume
ashen scroll
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Tbf she is not trash

bronze plume
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that in itself its a great achievement

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for ember

frozen tide
ashen scroll
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She just extremely mediocre

short dagger
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Whats the dmg difference between umbral torch and laeva signature

bronze plume
earnest patio
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are lae stats good enough now

bronze plume
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trash

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you cant be extermely mid thats not a thing you are either bad good or mid

frozen tide
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Laev comp function cripples with ember in it

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Atleast with phys ember works as a cog piece

echo crown
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How hard is akekuri to build? Don't wanna waste too many mats on her

daring dove
frozen tide
brisk pecan
earnest patio
frozen tide
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Ake is great even at lower investment

earnest patio
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i dont think i can get higher stats now

echo crown
bronze plume
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8 8 8 8

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is not that invested icl

ashen scroll
lime nacelle
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Akekuri is really easy to build since she is only there to trigger Thermite Cutter. It's like you're playing a sword and not the character.

frozen tide
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She does her fair share

lime nacelle
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Oh wait she also triggers Frontiers so there's that.

echo crown
frozen tide
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She has a talent unlock that applies link when she ults

lime nacelle
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You know who doesn't trigger Frontiers? Ember.

frozen tide
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Link is a debuff status

bronze plume
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dawg what games do you play to not know what ult is

daring dove
frozen tide
bronze plume
lime nacelle
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So that's 16% damage from Thermite, and 16% damage from Frontiers, that you only get if you're using Akekuri.

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MAXIMUM ULT!

frozen tide
frozen tide
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Sounds debuff enough to me

lime nacelle
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I've seen some people run full ult gain on Pog for physical teams.

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I don't have the heart.

brisk pecan
frozen tide
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Am i dumb

bronze plume
frozen tide
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Lemme check

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Mb

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Its a buff then

daring dove
# earnest patio

Ah it’s your essence on your weapon needs work. That’s where your 500-700 attack loss is.

bronze plume
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its applied to the team and the next ult or bs used consumes it to do more dmg

brisk pecan
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how much is the buff to damage again?

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1.5x?

frozen tide
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Really good cause its a separate multiplier

echo crown
brisk pecan
swift tundra
bronze plume
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grass needing

frozen tide
brisk pecan
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bro is playing genshin impact 1 2 and 3 at the same time

echo crown
ashen scroll
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Be polite be polite be polite dont insult them dont insult them , have self control EmberCopium

bronze plume
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yeah thats

short dagger
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how accurate is this

bronze plume
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how lots play a gacha

echo crown
daring dove
# earnest patio

I reckon since your gear is maxed. You’ll end up with 5800-5900 attack once you max weapon essence.

summer flower
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On what assumption it goes?

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60/80 for suports i assume?

drifting quest
# short dagger how accurate is this

Guoba's good but idk their assumptions for weapons
Our own findings here look to be less ideal for non sig, 5-10% lower across the board for standard case
Can match in ideal cases

short dagger
drifting quest
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I do believe the calcs predate current team setups and changes too

swift tundra
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If you're hanging out in a theorycraft channel for a gacha game, calling anyone unemployed or touch grass feels like a pot calling the kettle black. 🤔

lime nacelle
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What if Akekuri is better than Lifeng for Endmin team? Lifeng's buff is only like 14% more damage on your attacks. Akekuri has Thermite and Frontiers... Someone please test, I don't have Thermite Cutter. MonaCryCute

drifting quest
bronze plume
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i cant touch grass cuz im in a wheelchair

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my wheels touch the grass checkmate

drifting quest
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Feet cant touch the floor

daring dove
bronze plume
woeful plume
drifting quest
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Awkward

drifting quest
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Sorry

woeful plume
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its just that me personally

bronze plume
woeful plume
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if im pulling a hypercarry i'd pull their weapon

frozen tide
bronze plume
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if i cared i wouldnt bring up the wheelchair in the first place

drifting quest
short dagger
woeful plume
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15% dmg increase on like endmin is different than 15% dmg on laevatain

drifting quest
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Im autistic I care

bronze plume
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im slamming you on twitter insta and reddit

drifting quest
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I will remember this for months

short dagger
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Objectively speaking, if i wanna go hard on laev

drifting quest
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Unironically

bronze plume
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your days on social media are done buddy

woeful plume
short dagger
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i should be get her signature

woeful plume
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yes

bronze plume
frozen tide
drifting quest
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Im prepping my ukelele now

frozen tide
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@woeful plume whyd u ask if i was awake yesterday

short dagger
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Well, if i do get her signature, the sanity i've wasted on umbral torch is considered sunk cost anyway i guess right? XD

bronze plume
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@frozen tide are you awake?

frozen tide
bronze plume
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unless in like 5 years they release a character who can use umbral that you want

drifting quest
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Temporary account damage

bronze plume
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tho i do really wanna see there endgame for the bp weapons

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surely it aint just 2nd bis for the newest character that comes out everytime

drifting quest
echo crown
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I really hope ember gets a niche meta use case. Like for a specific boss/content

bronze plume
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agreed but my problem is how universal will said bp weapons become in the future

frozen tide
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Im waiting for them to accidentally release a broken bp weap to insta pot5

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With saved bp pot mat

bronze plume
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the entireity of endfield right now is just hoping HG can cook

brisk pecan
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ig

drifting quest
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It'd be so specifically forced that it'd be terrible gameplay design

bronze plume
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my situation with getting gilbertas weapon

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i might just stick with stanza even if its just p0

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
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Pulled gilb weapon for thermite
Got no thermite
Prob wont use sig because stanza exists

echo crown
drifting quest
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No

midnight stirrup
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Sorry Shuo

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Hope you get luck somewhere else soon

echo crown
drifting quest
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Dont worry I got ANOTHER wedge

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Im winning

midnight stirrup
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Who uses wedge

drifting quest
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No one

midnight stirrup
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Only seen it used on fluorite dps

bronze plume
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i want to get gilbertas sig cuz

twilit quail
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main dps wulfgard

bronze plume
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i can but at the same time

midnight stirrup
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Oop

ashen scroll
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Wulfgard dps use wesge no?

woeful plume
drifting quest
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Sorry no REAL unit uses wedge as bis

twilit quail
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cause he has to use a godawful 3x crit set

woeful plume
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i heard she is bad cuz she doesnt have her sig

bronze plume
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im like 10 pulls away from 6 star pity and dont want to waste it just getting a weapon

woeful plume
midnight stirrup
bronze plume
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and even then im 40 weapon banner pulls away from guarantee on her weapon

ashen scroll
bronze plume
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so im cooked

midnight stirrup
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I didnt get a LR essence today again

drifting quest
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Im probably wasting my yvonne dossier lmao

midnight stirrup
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The game hates me

drifting quest
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I dont want to risk my pity on her

midnight stirrup
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I kept getting strength detonate cryo

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Like pls

ashen scroll
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LR hate you

midnight stirrup
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No the game hates LR

drifting quest
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I got all 3 phys essences in like

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4 runs

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Lmfao

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Crazy rng

ashen scroll
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Nope, i hate LR

midnight stirrup
bronze plume
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my 3 options are

cope with stanza
waste 6 star pities just to get gilb sig
money

drifting quest
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I could chase a 3/3 fortmaker but idt I bother I have the non int 2

midnight stirrup
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Shes peak

woeful plume
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stanza isnt really cope unless there is a nature dps you REALLY will like later on

drifting quest
woeful plume
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thats for future you to worry about

drifting quest
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Glory to the god of death

midnight stirrup
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I really like the ghoul shit

bronze plume
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its cope cuz not having a characters sig makes my dopamine sadge

drifting quest
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Stanza is her sig

midnight stirrup
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Watch lr story quest be her wanting to eat Endmin

swift tundra
# midnight stirrup I kept getting strength detonate cryo

You ever got essences higher levels than 3/1/1 or 2/1/2? I've gotten 4/1/1 once but not sure if it's a anomaly. Thinking about just grinding it until I get one at high level then etch since you need so many fodders to max etch anyways.

drifting quest
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Its red just like her

ashen scroll
daring dove
midnight stirrup
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I mean

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Im mad too

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I did it for LR tho

bronze plume
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but what if stanza and her sig would both be p0?

drifting quest
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Depends on team

midnight stirrup
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Depends on the team

bronze plume
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the normal electric team

midnight stirrup
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Like she doesnt have 2

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Jk

drifting quest
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Both can work on elec

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Depends on like

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Thermite vs no thermite arclight

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Prob close atp

brisk pecan
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fellas help me out here, i get this from one 10x pull right

midnight stirrup
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Shuo

bronze plume
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i guess both?

midnight stirrup
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Who u main rn

bronze plume
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i only have 1 thermite

midnight stirrup
bronze plume
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but until or if we get a gamemode that needs 2 teams at once

midnight stirrup
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Oh wait

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Thats the weapon

bronze plume
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i can just swap it between arc and ake

midnight stirrup
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Yea u get the box after ur next 10

brisk pecan
midnight stirrup
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I feel like grand vision is gonna be powercrept quick

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But go for it

brisk pecan
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next 10 as in one of this right

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
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Remind me in like an hour

bronze plume
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yeah

drifting quest
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Ill math it out i guess

midnight stirrup
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The box is a selectable

brisk pecan
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ok

midnight stirrup
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After that 10

brisk pecan
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well if my current team can't clear agony

bronze plume
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remind you what in 1 hour

brisk pecan
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i'll commit

drifting quest
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Stanza vs sig

midnight stirrup
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When does endgame come out

bronze plume
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what team you running

midnight stirrup
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Tomorrow?

bronze plume
drifting quest
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12th

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So thurs

midnight stirrup
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Oh word

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Im excited

drifting quest
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My one day off this week

brisk pecan
drifting quest
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Lined up perfectly

midnight stirrup
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Ill probably breeze through it tho

bronze plume
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you shouldnt be excited

drifting quest
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Im gonna try do it with yvonne ig

midnight stirrup
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If its easier than trim

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Yea its easy

drifting quest
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Underinvested bad team yvonne

bronze plume
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its easier then trim bosses 1000%

lime bear
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@drifting quest basically Umbral is the same 3 stages normal and agony and only gives out mats, while Monumental Etching is new and give us the Oros?

midnight stirrup
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Yea then I wont have any trouble

drifting quest
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Yes

midnight stirrup
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Trim was already easy at p5

drifting quest
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We dont know what etching will be

twilit quail
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streamer guy I know logged onto a viewer's account and accidentally did lv60 phys team trim

bronze plume
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i mean you have max pot stuff

drifting quest
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Lmao

bronze plume
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why wouldnt it be ez

twilit quail
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then he logged onto another guy's lv90 yvonne acc

midnight stirrup
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Thats what im saying

twilit quail
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with good supports who had weapons with dupes

drifting quest
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No trim

twilit quail
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and he couldnt do it

drifting quest
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Be peak

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LMAO

lime bear
midnight stirrup
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Yvonne into marble trim sounds awful

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Since all her damage is in ult

bronze plume
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whats monumental etching

ashen scroll
drifting quest
midnight stirrup
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Wastign too much time on tentacles

bronze plume
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is that a new mode

drifting quest
bronze plume
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or just the challenges name for umbral

brisk pecan
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oh is it like og arknights cc

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where you can choose your debuffs

drifting quest
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"Challenges" in monument

midnight stirrup
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Endgame in itself doesnt

bronze plume
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oh so its just there name for the way umbral will accutally be rewarding

drifting quest
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Im guessing its time limit clears

echo crown
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Is there a reason to go past 6666 on ard other than survivability?

drifting quest
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5/4/3 min clears on each agony

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Prob

midnight stirrup
bronze plume
midnight stirrup
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But 10 minutes iirc

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Which is hella long

lime bear
drifting quest
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Battle skill is suscept

bronze plume
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oh

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im tripping

daring dove
# drifting quest Stanza vs sig

20 % ATK is going to be a bigger damage uplift than 31% more elemental DMG. This assumes P5 Stanza versus P0 sig though. Especially when you aren’t hitting multiple enemies as 31% is best case scenario. Sig only really makes sense if you don’t have Stanza with some potentials or you’re going to get Sig P2-P3. 108_yaehmm

bronze plume
#

ive failed

drifting quest
bronze plume
#

shuo you take the mantel of #1 ardelia fan

daring dove
drifting quest
#

Eyja2 never came home

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I have a grudge

echo crown
drifting quest
#

200 pulls btw

bronze plume
bronze plume
lime bear
#

ok so just 10 mins is for medals and mats, 5/4/3 for the Oros and is limited 2 weeks

#

hypothetically

drifting quest
#

My ak limited banner luck is terrible

#

No shu no yu
Chongyue ling spook
No eyja2
No wis

bronze plume
#

i got the ave collab op in 20

ashen scroll
drifting quest
#

Thankfully collab I got sakiko in 50

echo crown
drifting quest
#

Aska?

bronze plume
#

yes aska

drifting quest
#

Sounds wrong now I read it

bronze plume
#

it translate to Eyjafjalla the white ash

ashen scroll
drifting quest
#

Makes sense

bronze plume
#

cuz shes fucking dying mainly

drifting quest
#

Coughing baby

rare zodiac
daring dove
#

The best thing I can say about Gilberta’s sig is that its activation condition just requires Gilberta existing in a team & triggering an arts reaction. Whereas stanza requires her to ult. However outside of killing trash mobs… you’ll be using Gilberta’s sig most rotations anyway.

bronze plume
#

and the event is literally dolly giving her drugs and her coping with it and losing her parents

#

its no fair 🥀

drifting quest
#

Nuh uh it was ALL surfboarding sheep

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Thats it

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Nothing else happened

bronze plume
#

magic sheep

ashen scroll
#

Dolly not even exist , she a schizo

bronze plume
#

the goat

ashen scroll
bronze plume
#

i mean dolly does exist

ashen scroll
#

I know but its my headcanon since not everyone can perceive it

#

Eyja wouldnt mind if i add 1 more illness

brisk pecan
#

physically + mentally ill waifu

ashen scroll
#

The song called daydream for a reason

bronze plume
#

tbf ardelia doesnt have any illness that we know of

brisk pecan
#

so wait what's the lore actually

#

they're kinda sorta clones right

#

from originium shenanigans

ashen scroll
#

Theyre convenient plot tools driven by company greed to monetize og AK player PerliFumo

brisk pecan
#

real

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😔

ashen scroll
#

They should make them breed like chen instead

brisk pecan
#

nah just give us real chen so they can have an excuse to have chen 4 the time traveler in og

bronze plume
# brisk pecan so wait what's the lore actually

basically anyone that gets infected gets sent to the cloud server and warfarin and endmin did a little trolling and accidentaly copy and pasted said data and made a reconvener aka a clone but not actually a clone

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first reconvener was none other than

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laevatain

echo crown
bronze plume
#

correct

brisk pecan
#

also who's pog? is he just hellagur

bronze plume
#

reconvener of hellagur yeah

brisk pecan
#

aha okay

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hmm

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so i assume most of the og's cast is dead

#

other than some long livers

bronze plume
#

yeah

brisk pecan
#

😔

bronze plume
#

most people cant live over 150 tbf

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we dont actually know how many reconveners there are or not

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for all we know the only reconveners are the 5 we have ingame and new ones will just be made as a look here old ak character in ef shiny wow

brisk pecan
#

fair enough

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but i feel like since the plot device is already here they'll just use it

ashen scroll
#

Frost nova reconvener

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Then we kill her again

next helm
#

Gilbertapog

drifting quest
#

Side eye

drifting berry
#

Question, I'll start Arteficing Laev Gear, currently I'm using the tide chest piece + 3 hot work. Is this currently her best set or should I go for the charge set?

kindred sorrel
#

which build is bis for her Hachimi

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can i run charge set on her as well

earnest patio
#

or was there a live stream

earnest patio
#

You will feel way easy to clear bosses and farm materials

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Hot work kinda best for exploration for domain stuffs charge set is best

bronze plume
#

unfunny joke

earnest patio
drifting berry
#

I don't really use Laev on casual content, so I guess I will wait until we get the new event

bronze plume
#

gang i wasnt refering to you

drifting berry
#

feb 12, umbral something something,

bronze plume
#

its not a event

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its a permanent gamemode

unreal light
#

What are your stats here?

lime nacelle
#

Damn that's a long time ago.

late swallow
#

arts on Lifeng improves his knock down and sus no?

lime nacelle
unreal light
fathom horizon
#

All I am gonna say here is that prolly Phantom is living his best life in New Wrankwood

lime nacelle
#

Arts Intensity gloves pulls up slightly ahead. Here's my figures for ult during stun:

ARTS INTENSITY GLOVES
4786+6892+10710+18379+25635+4786+6892+10710+18379+(27569)
=134738

SKILL DAMAGE BONUS GLOVES
4786+6892+8330+18379+25635+4786+6892+8330+18379+(27569)
=129978

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The last number in parentheses is the 3rd hit you get if using Link.

unreal light
#

What’s skill damage bonus gloves

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I’m unsure

lime nacelle
#

Compared to this:

unreal light
#

Oh

unreal light
lime nacelle
#

Why what? I was comparing the two.

unreal light
#

I mean you’re measuring the ulti damage

lucid siren
#

what essen should i get for laevatein

lime nacelle
#

Was wondering what would change and by how much.

unreal light
#

One could wear swordmancer gloves

unreal light
unreal light
lime nacelle
#

I haven't gotten to that yet.

#

I still need to test some things with Lifeng.

unreal light
#

If it’s not too much trouble, could you test them out?

lime nacelle
#

Also, while the ultimate damage does get increased, the skill damage bonus does increase the damage on his skill. And you tend to use that more often, so you do have to factor that when deciding what'll be better for overall damage.

unreal light
#

It just seems kinda unfair that one variant has a strong buff arts intensity, that counts towards the damage

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And the other, you compare to, by ultimate damage, has a pointless skill damage

lime nacelle
#

Well for his ultimate damage, the gloves are guaranteed to be better since if you look at the damage figures, the gloves only influence two of the damage instances.

unreal light
#

Sure

bronze plume
#

@drifting quest

unreal light
#

I do wear ulti gloves

drifting quest
#

Wassup

lime nacelle
#

I use the gloves on Chen.

wise gate
#

guys should I make a new account and play the game with even extraer restrictions

swift tundra
brisk pecan
#

lv1 catcher basic attack only solo 🔥 🔥 🔥

lime bear
#

@drifting quest what pog skill should I priotize

late swallow
wise gate
lime bear
#

Im trying to get Endmin, Chen, Lifeng to 1666 first

bronze plume
wise gate
#

if any of the tank chars die we never use them again

brisk pecan
wise gate
#

if i run out of tank chars I delete my account or something

brisk pecan
#

nah delete your real account

wise gate
#

or I wait till a new tank comes out

bitter nebula
#

Trying to build a physical team

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who should i use as fourth?

heady pine
drifting quest
bitter nebula
#

suggestions on which set getting?

bronze plume
#

smh

lime bear
bitter nebula
#

sorry, and thanks ^^

lime bear
heady pine
lime bear
#

heard combo priotize left to right

bitter nebula
#

wait, so it actually matter how u put them?

hollow pine
hollow pine
hollow pine
bitter nebula
#

make sense

heady pine
#

i usually just say 4th cause ppl have pog as their first

lime nacelle
#

I put Endmin on 1st slot and it's fine.

hollow pine
lime bear
lime nacelle
#

I use Endmin, Pog, Chen, Lifeng.

hollow pine
#

because I mostly cycle Lifeng Bs+Cs to Chen then endmin to pog

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then when combos all up I have like full uptime for 4 combos then go full lifeng - Chen- endmin- pog

hollow pine
midnight stirrup
unreal light
outer ermine
bronze plume
#

your wife does

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sharing discord pfp

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is that relationship goals?

unreal light
#

Oh well she also spends my sanity and accumulates some pulls here and there

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Automatization, you know

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The factory must grow

lime nacelle
#

Depressing Lifeng facts:
If you use Link on his skill, only the first 2 hits deal increased damage, but not the big last one.

errant mountain
#

Okay boys don't know if it's the right chat to ask this, but let's say i don't want to just search up team composition and builds that someone made, and i want to build my own. How do i approach this? Are there any useful principles i need to consider? Like how to calculate how much SP generation i need per cycle etc?

lime nacelle
#

Uplifting Lifeng facts:
When using his skill, even if his buff isn't up, the damage of the last hit uses the newly applied buff.

lime nacelle
unreal light
#

Eh? You mean he receives link for the third hit but does not spend it?

midnight stirrup
unreal light
lime nacelle
#

Lifeng's skill hits 3 times. But the last hit applies the physical succeptibility debuff before calculating the damage.

unreal light
midnight stirrup
#

Now give me the real answer

brisk pecan
#

wait so debuffs fuck up link?

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how does this calculate with say crush?

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does crush get the link dmg boost

#

me killing chat again 😔 sadge

unreal light
valid zealot
#

Only battle skill damage and ult damage benefit from link.

late swallow
brisk pecan
lime nacelle
#

This has nothing to do with Link.

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It's two different things.

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Lifeng applies a debuff that makes you deal more physical damage.

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Link buffs your next skill or ultimate.

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Lifeng's skill hits 3 times, with the last hit doing a lot more damage.

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But using up Link with Lifeng's skill only boosts the first 2 hits. hands

lime nacelle
#

Oh someone answered.

summer flower
#

Skill dmg on skill causing crush should

brisk pecan
summer flower
#

Be affected, but that's probably peanuts

lime nacelle
#

Yes, Link does buff the skill damage. But it's such a tiny boost compared to the massive damage you're doing with Crush that's it's not very worth it.

#

Much better to use it on ult.

lime bear
#

whats the best window to use Chen ult again

lime nacelle
#

During stun, after Endmin combo skill.

ripe parrot
#

on stagger

lime bear
#

okie

lime nacelle
#

If you have Lifeng, use Link too.

lime bear
#

and Pog ult after his combo?

quartz flame
#

Why specifically after endmin combo skill

lime nacelle
#

Pog ult should be used before stun.

quartz flame
#

I don’t think those two moves interact

daring dove
#

Seriously game. 💀

brisk pecan
#

originium crystals give +20% damage

lime nacelle
quartz flame
#

Oh true

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Forgot about that

lime nacelle
#

You don't have to be too picky about it because breaking the crystal will also give you a damage buff. Not as big but still good.

brisk pecan
#

ideally you also eat the originium crystals for +50 sp return

quartz flame
#

Yeah I forgot about the bonus damage passive and only thought about the consume buff

lime bear
quartz flame
#

P5 endmin combo vuln stack real

rare zodiac
#

add vul stack on final strike 🙏

quartz flame
#

Crush on ult with massive bonus mult

lime bear
#

Ult now drops Originium meteor

lime nacelle
#

Vuln stack doesn't affect ult damage. Cat_Hanh

quartz flame
#

Grander Vision weapon

brisk pecan
#

bskill aoe +500%

#

just hits the whole map

rare zodiac
#

encase everything in Originium Crystals, become the World Ender

daring dove
#

Well at least I can't moan at that for a starting essence even if my artifcing luck is toilet grade. sadcat

outer ermine
#

tf +4 startPerliStareYou

bronze plume
#

@drifting quest has it been done

bronze plume
drifting quest
#

i got side tracked by collab sorry

bronze plume
#

smh

#

to math for me

outer ermine
#

smh smh what is this luccsaccs PerliWaaaaa

drifting quest
#

ill do normal clears this time rather than randomizer i guess

manic blade
#

all this to not even get to use it on umbral Kek

drifting quest
#

and do the math while ulpi gladiia afk stages

bronze plume
outer ermine
#

bros abt to get rushed on ss7

ripe parrot
bronze plume
#

i just realized

#

with the "free" pulls we get each banner

#

imma finna get 6 star pity before rossi is out anyway

drifting quest
#

just skip them

#

waste the pulls

bronze plume
#

big brain

drifting quest
#

id expect they get replaced in 1.1 anyway

bronze plume
#

thats totally more worth it

drifting quest
#

and we might get a rebate

bronze plume
#

the fact they arent just limited hh pull tickets

#

what is this bro

drifting quest
#

do you have a build avywenna

#

i suppose it doesnt matter

#

i have to input a bunch anyway

bronze plume
#

not really well built

lime bear
#

Rossi waiting room

bronze plume
#

im still maxxing ardelia before working on the electirc properly

lime bear
bronze plume
#

i dont care for that stuff

#

tang tang and 1 or 2 of the other characters they teased in the trailer

drifting quest
#

i was gonna just use it to skip the data input part but like

bronze plume
#

there ya go

drifting quest
#

im gonna have to do the data input part anyway so it matters not at all

daring dove
#

My Gilberta is looking fairly stronk now. Klee_Derp

lime nacelle
#

Support character is gonna do TONS of damages.

bronze plume
next helm
#

I wish her numbers were better on investment

bronze plume
#

i gotta give them credit for the character art

magic stream
#

Whats the best food typically?

#

For like, big dmg

#

Kunst tube looks pretty decent

lime bear
#

and then Jakub

magic stream
#

Where do I get ginseng?

ripe parrot
#

you grow it

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off to the wuling farm you go

brisk pecan
#

back to the rice fields 😔

#

just like the forefathers wanted

magic stream
#

Ohhh is it the little plant

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In the rice fields

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No thats amber rice

quartz flame
#

I’m at the limit of what I can power off of one wuling battery and if I set up farming it cuts into my profits Homucide_Ani

magic stream
#

Is the plant legit called ginseng?

next helm
#

red jade ginseng

brisk pecan
#

redjade ginseng

quartz flame
#

You also need to farm dogs for it

magic stream
#

I dont think I even have any of those lol

ripe parrot
#

there is a ginseng plant on the way to the farm from your core AIC

next helm
#

there is one next to wuling base

brisk pecan
#

the guy near the farm sells the seeds

next helm
#

when you walk towards the farm

magic stream
#

Gotcha

#

Is there an actual farm plot?

ripe parrot
#

yes

brisk pecan
#

you craft it

magic stream
#

Unlocked thru quest?

#

I mean a location to grow them like in valley IV

ripe parrot
#

yes

brisk pecan
#

yes

magic stream
#

Next to main aic?

brisk pecan
#

northeast of your pac

magic stream
#

Okay

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And buy red jade from guy nearby

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Thx

ripe parrot
#

it takes 12 hours with sprinklers so just get as many seeds as you can make/buy and come back tomorrow or something

magic stream
#

Yup, can you grind seeds from the plant itself?

brisk pecan
#

you can

ripe parrot
#

yes and you should

magic stream
#

Nice

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Will do

ripe parrot
#

because you need 50 ginseng farmed/gathered for the ginseng stew recipe

magic stream
#

Got plenty of extra space in le factory anyways

modest thorn
#

What are the arguments for lynx slab and ult recharge Laevatain?

quartz flame
#

Laev ult good

modest thorn
#

So I’ve been told

magic stream
#

@ripe parrot the shopkeep's name is wellmorin?

modest thorn
#

I feel like lynx slab is only really good if you’re bursting otherwise ult regen is better?

valid zealot
#

Statmaxxing.

modest thorn
#

Also what does the rotation into ult look like with lynx

#

Or I mean how many skills till ult

magic stream
ripe parrot
#

pick up the ginseng on the road to the farm

#

i believe you need at least 1 gathered for him to sell the seed

bitter nebula
#

guys should i mastery 1 skill and ulti of Laev?

magic stream
#

Isnt jade the one to grow tho

#

Ohhh

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Found it

#

Thx

#

I have 1 I can make infinite

#

:>

icy minnow
#

Imo tide+hot work felt best for bosses, haven't tried with lynx but you kinda want the burst damage to hit stagger points

valid zealot
#

I artificed hot wok bricked acc can't play haiya.

ripe parrot
icy minnow
#

Ult regen set is comfy for everything else, big laeva sword just feels nice PerliFumo

valid zealot
#

Isn't ginseng 5hr.

modest thorn
#

Does that set have the same ult regen as lynx

#

And how many skills and stuff do you need for ult to come up again

ripe parrot
brisk pecan
#

it's 4 hours per watering or smth if that's what you mean

icy minnow
#

Tide chest is 2 ebs + 2 combo skill, afaik lynx needs 2 ebs + 3 combo skills

ripe parrot
valid zealot
#

Oh 4hrs is for re watering timer.

daring dove
#

There we go now we're Gilberta gaming.

valid zealot
#

Never knew.

ripe parrot
#

i wish ginseng was 5 hours believe me

modest thorn
valid zealot
#

I don't really chuck ginseng stew so

modest thorn
#

I wish there was a damage dummy to compare these

ripe parrot
#

the worst part is surprisingly the fillet

#

who the hell puts 4 fillet inside a meat stew

#

like how big is this stew pot

icy minnow
modest thorn
#

Da pan moment

ripe parrot
#

FLIP THAT WOK

modest thorn
#

I think he uses more than 4 fillets

ripe parrot
#

yeah I pretty much trimmed with like no artificing because laev is funny

valid zealot
#

Well fillet just put turret here and there

#

How long for map dogs to repopulate

ripe parrot
#

so I moved onto hyper-carry chen because chen is fun

ripe parrot
modest thorn
#

When do we get to breed dogs and feed them into the crusher evilcat

valid zealot
ripe parrot
#

maybe for you

#

skill issue

valid zealot
#

Don't get me competitive on dog farming.

boreal coral
icy minnow
ripe parrot
#

3 feels awful

modest thorn
#

I am curious about stagger I think I skipped that part does stagger do anything

#

Or is he just stunned

ripe parrot
#

it's an extra cycle/wulf ult pretty much

valid zealot
#

1.3 mult.

modest thorn
#

Cause in other games I played with that system they got armor broken and stuff

lime nacelle
#

30% more damages.

modest thorn
#

Hmm I see

ripe parrot
#

30% multiplier is pretty nasty

#

especially if you're running like phys where you can opt for stagger damage to scale up dmg %

modest thorn
#

Yeah… I may be biased cause I play the ult regen gear but ult regen sounds better lol

#

2 ebs im_cry

ripe parrot
#

1 cycle seems nice

modest thorn
#

Also cause u can leave ult with stacks

ripe parrot
#

i might do that just to make my dailies go marginally faster lol

modest thorn
#

Which brings me to my point from yesterday

#

Wulf isn’t that useful

#

👍

ripe parrot
#

nice bait

late swallow
icy minnow
ripe parrot
outer ermine
#

PerliFumo anyone know how long perlica ba chain is

#

2x

late swallow
ripe parrot
drifting quest
bronze plume
#

jet

drifting quest
#

Ok

#

Im just going to make assumptions then to save myself a ton of time

bronze plume
#

arc thermite
avy jet
perlica is on uhh

#

not the det one

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo might be better to field perlica instead of xaihi

mint dagger
#

oblivio

bronze plume
#

why tf would it be ob

manic blade
drifting quest
#

Artificed gear, only during burst window, 3p bonekrusha active, 2 normal 1 ex lance

#

Uhh

valid zealot
#

Wanderer smth

drifting quest
#

Whatever else i decide as I get to it

bronze plume
#

yeah wanderer

valid zealot
#

that +elec dmg

sudden sparrow
next helm
#

art being potential locked pensivecomf

sudden sparrow
#

the game gatekeeping that shit like crazy

#

i dont even get to know how much electrification increases damage taken

winged delta
valid zealot
ripe parrot
#

this is not including the base status modifier though

lime nacelle
#

Make sure you build Arts Intensity on your Lifeng so that he deals 1000 more damage on his ult.

sudden sparrow
magic stream
ripe parrot
#

along with the dog blender

magic stream
magic stream
#

Chinese game fr

ripe parrot
#

humans should drop meat too

magic stream
sudden sparrow
# ripe parrot arts intensity 0

yea I was curious about what base numbers those effects have (like what are their damage or multipliers) without taking arts intensity into consideration

ripe parrot
#

It really doesn't help that the database is really not helpful 99% of the time

#

thanks game but HOW MUCH

valid zealot
#

They are saving the animals™ for potential meat farm in the future.

#

Can't have you fighting pigs.

#

Though it's very funny.

civic rover
#

Is there a reference doc with all the formulas

valid zealot
#

Not all but should cover what you need.

#

Is it all actually.

#

dunno

civic rover
#

Ty

summer flower
#

Weak guy will deal less, time could also be scaled

bitter nebula
#

i was reading the sheet, what is 4/3/3 4/3/4? i didn't understand

ripe parrot
#

They should some kind of guide/tutorial/database that explains all this... oh wait

valid zealot
ripe parrot
#

vibes-based numbers weeee

bitter nebula
#

thanks

valid zealot
#

4/3/3 = 4 stack breach, 3 stack crush, 3 stack crush.