#theorycrafting

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tight haven
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you get 100 a week

bronze plume
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i want gilbertas weapon but i need 40 pulls on weapon banner for it

tight haven
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and sometimes you get 20 from the credit shop!!!

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aren't you happy

bronze plume
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i dont want gilberta again nor yvonne and probably not the 1st unit in 1.1

manic blade
bronze plume
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so i have to literally waste pulls for a weapon

tight haven
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yeah its ass

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i want yvonnes weapon but theres no chance in hell im rolling on her banner

bronze plume
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goofy ass weapon gacha system

tight haven
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except for the free rolls

bronze plume
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goofy ass limited time slaped onto event

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how was cbt1 the best iteration of the game

tight haven
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UNIRONICALLY the progression in cbt1 was the best

humble hinge
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I don't even need more than 2 hours of playtime in GI to tell how little they've actually brought in this game

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Everything else is stolen to the last bit

tight haven
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cbt2 was hell and release was just barely passable

daring dove
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I mean I'd make it 4k per week so each month you have enough tokens to assure 1 weapon with bad luck?

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Assuming a 4 week month

tight haven
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thats also fair

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yeah

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whatever they do i hope it comes in 1.1

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we'll see

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1.1 should have a livestream right

humble hinge
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Pull currency is running on fumes now. We might be stuck with 16/month for f2p

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Imagine if it turns out like that

tight haven
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hg is doing big boy gacha stuff now right

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including regular livestreams

woeful plume
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if they got the amount of revenue i think they got, i dont think we are getting any good changes

high finch
tight haven
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havent they made a clean like

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30 mil

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from mobile alone

woeful plume
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ye its way more on pc

tight haven
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ohhh i getcha

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you mean theyre gonna rest on their laurels

woeful plume
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so basically

tight haven
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yeah possibly

woeful plume
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yeah if they are making bank why would they need to

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react to it

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its the hoyo style

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if they eat the slop keep giving slop

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no need to waste manpower to improvement

tight haven
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yeah that stinks

humble hinge
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Who whales endfield right now? We didn't even got everything promised yet

tight haven
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im hoping theyre nice enough to keeo changing stuff for the better anyway but capitalism do be capitalisming

humble hinge
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Like, what are they expecting?

high finch
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Wasn’t original ak praised for being generous?

tulip geyser
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12/2 is the start of the pernament endgame mode no?

tight haven
high finch
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I remember my friend said like: dude you can get every single rate up as f2p

tight haven
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weeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllll

pulsar sedge
tight haven
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you could genuinely just lose every 50/50

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the 6* rate was good but you didnt have any protection

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except for the uh, 150 pull protection kick-in

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next 6* going 150 pulls without a featured op guarantees them

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and limited ops have a straight 300 guarantee that doesnt reset pity

valid zealot
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It was closer to the original™ gacha style.

tight haven
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yep

humble hinge
dry kindle
humble hinge
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Never worked for me

tight haven
humble hinge
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P5 legendary is like 500-800$ to pull?

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Crazy prices

tight haven
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she kicked my boy out NOPERS she can pound sand

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what did thorns ever do to you sakiko NOPERS asshole.

high finch
tight haven
dry kindle
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Wait do bp boxes have guaranteed ao

tight haven
dry kindle
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Wao

tight haven
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10 beryls from the M chests minimum

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15 minimum from the L chests iirc

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its like... kinda decent income

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if you squint

pulsar sedge
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wtf

bronze plume
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no tf it isnt

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dont call it decent

tight haven
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yeah fair

bronze plume
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the only ONLY good thing to come from cbt2

tight haven
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its abysmal dogshit but im being nice because in comparison to everything else it's a bit friendly

pulsar sedge
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so like one pull

tight haven
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200 isnt one oull

pulsar sedge
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by the time the bp ends

bronze plume
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IS A THIRD EYJAFJALLA

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LESSS GOO

tight haven
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oh

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true

bronze plume
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SHIII TERRIBLE SYSTEM IN GACHA? DOGWATER WEAPON SYSTEM

woeful plume
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so guys

bronze plume
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BRO STFU LET ME WHALE ON EYJA FOR THE 3RD TIME

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YESSIR

high finch
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Didn’t they said they gonna increase sources of headhunting resources?

woeful plume
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bro

bronze plume
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anyway

daring dove
woeful plume
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calm down

civic rover
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is ginseng the only farmable food? and its the best food right 180 base attack ?

woeful plume
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tq

tight haven
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also who the fuck knows what this means

woeful plume
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is there a reason why would LR xaihi ardelia gilberta not be possible?

high finch
woeful plume
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cuz ardelia corrosion triggers gilberta combo right

pulsar sedge
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weapon system genuinely looks so cooked ngl

woeful plume
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and vuln stack should last until the burst

bronze plume
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looks?

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bro it is

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i am in the middle of cooked weapon system

pulsar sedge
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if 1.0 sig is 10-15% better than max refine bp i dont wanna imagine what its like in a year

bronze plume
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need 40 pulls to guarantee gilbertas weapon

pulsar sedge
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if you dont pull sig

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you die

bronze plume
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i have gilberta already

bronze plume
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no weapon pulls

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i dont want yvonne and probably not whoever is the 1st character in 1.1

pulsar sedge
bronze plume
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so im wasting my character pulls for a goofy weapon bro

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we stay losing

woeful plume
next helm
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1.0

woeful plume
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but a 15% gap rn is very normal cuz we have so few weapons

next helm
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We don't know the pull economy yet

woeful plume
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hoyo had the mistake of how to not play their game so favonius weapons exist

daring dove
# woeful plume and vuln stack should last until the burst

Sometimes I can be really nice to you, for example I ended up with P4 Gilberta sig just from using the pulls I got from her banner. Other times it can absolutely roast you alive for example I needed to buy a bunch of token packs to finish Laevatains weapon. sadcat

bronze plume
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man the pull economy is already dying

civic wolf
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how many food buffs do i need to slap on lav for her to start trimming the re crisis?

woeful plume
next helm
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We are still in the 1.0 pulls

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It was just all frontloaded

pulsar sedge
daring dove
pulsar sedge
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apparently sigs in like wuwa or hsr are like 40% or sm crazy number like that

dry kindle
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F2ps cant max bp weapon so

bronze plume
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no thats accurate for some characters in hsr

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look at cyrene

valid zealot
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If I get 6* in urgent recruitment does it consume my 80 pity.

civic wolf
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with Wuwa its kind of a weird one time occasion where Rectifiers simply do not have a good perma alternative unless you got Yinlin's long ago which caused the 40% meme

next helm
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I expect the 100~ pulls a patch like every gacha game

civic wolf
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atm Lynae and Mornye doesnt need sig, and Aemeath is 20% from her perma option

valid zealot
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Damn this thing sucks.

tight haven
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doesnt count to pity but it can consume it

bronze plume
tight haven
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👍

daring dove
dry kindle
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It counts

next helm
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You don't know if there are gonna be 3 banners a patch

tight haven
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sworce no it doesnt,

dry kindle
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It just doesn't count to 120

next helm
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We are in 1.0

tight haven
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it explicitly doesnt count to--yeah okay

dry kindle
tight haven
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wait it counts toward the 80 too

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i thought it didnt

dry kindle
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It should

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Idk

tight haven
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well shit i gotta test next banner

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after yvonnes

humble hinge
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Pulling out guaranteed weapon is 200$. Who's willing to pay so much for a WEAPON, not a character

tight haven
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bc fuck yvonne

dry kindle
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5* tangtang banner 🔥

pulsar sedge
lime nacelle
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One thousand catties of food.

dry kindle
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Just pull 8 6* in 10 pulls

tight haven
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the arsenal ticket packs make it about $180--actually why am i being pedantic

dry kindle
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Its that easy

tight haven
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youre right its dogshit either way

next helm
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Sigs are free every 2x 120 limited pulls

tight haven
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shouldnt cost that much for a WEAPON

daring dove
bronze plume
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yeah thats not how the word free should be used

daring dove
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Honestly though I like that characters potentials are mostly just comfort picks.

next helm
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In other gachas you have to choose between sig and characters

tight haven
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i git gil p3 because her p3 opens up funny potential team comps

next helm
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I don't know what you are on about

valid zealot
bronze plume
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if you spend 240 pulls on this limited banner you can get the weapon absolutely free 🔥

tight haven
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i got laev p5 cuz shes awesome

woeful plume
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@frozen tide is you awake

valid zealot
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Only last pots are acceptable, but the road there is not.

next helm
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Have you played other gachas?

valid zealot
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last pot"s"

tight haven
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fangyi might be a p5 depending on how hard they develop her out

dry kindle
pulsar sedge
next helm
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You either skip 3 patches to get 1 character and a weapon

tight haven
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if shes just endmin's girl toy then blegh

next helm
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Or you get 1 character every 1.5 patches

pulsar sedge
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but yh without skill issue sig is quite a noticeable margin stronger

dry kindle
next helm
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-getting lucky ofc

hidden marlin
valid zealot
next helm
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These weapons are also basically free

tight haven
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okay stop using the word free like that

humble hinge
tight haven
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thats not how free things operate

next helm
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You do 200 pulls get 4-5 weapons one of which is a sig

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On average

tight haven
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free things come without you spending for them in any capacity, as rewards for doing stuff

neat snow
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It's free after you spend the money

tight haven
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you got me there

next helm
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If you are spending for weapons

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You shouldn't be playing gachas, or are a whale

bronze plume
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my ass when i got gilberta on laevs banner so the only way to get her totally free weapon is to waste pulls on her banner

next helm
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so.

bronze plume
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im sorry for being lucky hg

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now give me my delivery

next helm
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I got both laev and gilbs weapon

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Had to go to pity every time

daring dove
# pulsar sedge I act think laev sig is less valuable than sheet numbers for most players tbh bc...

The thing I have to think of though, is Genshin up until Yelan's release had really bad constellations for her characters that where mostly just comfort picks to (some made absolutely zero sense). But once Yelan released an she got 280% stronger with constellations...That opened up the flood gates for them to do that which most characters going foward. We'll see how long this game manages to balance potentials. 108_yaehmm

civic wolf
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is ult gain build the strongest Lava build atm?

tight haven
civic wolf
tight haven
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it only gets better if you have her real sig and gets crazy once you have her p4/p5

dry kindle
pulsar sedge
tight haven
next helm
civic wolf
next helm
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So don't get lucky on the next one I guess...

civic wolf
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ive been trolled

next helm
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Or don't expect to own every sig

civic wolf
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(the guide did not specify what its actually for)

dry kindle
bronze plume
pulsar sedge
hidden marlin
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I trimmed with ult gain build, you’re fine

next helm
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You didn't get fucked over

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you got lucky

pulsar sedge
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I trimmed with umbral torch

next helm
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If it was like genshin you wouldn't get the weapon

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period

pulsar sedge
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and I fucked up one rotation

bronze plume
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they just need to add a mode or something that gives arsenal tokens a actually good amount outside of using character pulls

hidden marlin
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Better than genshin isn’t saying much

civic wolf
bronze plume
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gang if i got a character in genshin early i could just use the rest of the pulls for the weapon banner

tight haven
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"endfield's gacha is kinda bad"
"well at least it isn't genshin"

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every time man

next helm
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Getting lucky and complaining

tight haven
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theyre putting something in the water

civic wolf
pulsar sedge
bronze plume
civic wolf
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working on it

pulsar sedge
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you need to level up your essence

bronze plume
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who put salt in my water its a pool gang

civic wolf
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essense or my Lava level?

daring dove
pulsar sedge
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lava level dont mean too much

civic wolf
neat snow
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You're using gensing food yes

bronze plume
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thats all im saying

tight haven
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well beef

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have you considered

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at least it isnt genshin

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did you beef

bronze plume
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true

tight haven
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think about how this game

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arknights endfield

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is not genshin impact

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ive been thinking about that beef

civic wolf
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"it isn't the worst version of post-genshin banner system so clearly its not bad"

tight haven
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ive been thinking about it a whole lot.

bronze plume
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arknights: honkai star genshin

pulsar sedge
bronze plume
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wish we could turn back time

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to the good old days

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when cbt1 was a thing

ebon thicket
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How many teams are needed for umbral?

tight haven
civic wolf
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cok and ball torture 1???

bronze plume
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1

valid zealot
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This thing is

next helm
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For someone like me who loses literally every 50/50 and goes to pity 105_ICANT this system is miles better

civic wolf
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1, butt keep an eye out just in case they pull up a second team out of nowhere if this umbral is expanded from the first version

civic wolf
dry kindle
tight haven
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i doubt it will change because they would have announced it

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like

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thats pretty big change

civic wolf
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i can't casually drop a ten pull on a random abnner and see if i get lucky early

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it feels amazingly bad to do that now

next helm
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You can

high finch
# bronze plume when cbt1 was a thing

I also kinda think,maybe it’s a release thing but the mats we get per 80 sanity are so low. Like investing a full team like phys is gonna take ages

next helm
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you get free pulls

bronze plume
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this is what i get for wanting clannibal

next helm
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Every banner

tight haven
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im a clannibal hater now i fear

valid zealot
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80 pulls for never rest, now I'm homeless.

tight haven
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they should buff clannibal

civic wolf
# next helm Every banner

this game suspiciously lacks yellow tickets instead of these crappy ass banner specific pull tickets

bronze plume
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i shouldnt have gotten a weapon cuz now i cant get a different weapon

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imm just

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do pulls on standard im close to the 6 star pity there

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that will totally feel better

dry kindle
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💀 💀 💀 💀

tight haven
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yeah the banner-specific tickets thing is DEVIOUS

civic wolf
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can't save it up, you HAVE to use it

bronze plume
pulsar sedge
bronze plume
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not the 300

next helm
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You have the choice not to buy them

bronze plume
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i doubt the 300 gives the 2k arsenal tickets

civic wolf
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and purposely messes with you making you not pull until a week later

pulsar sedge
tight haven
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turbo jankify your rots to make it work

lime bear
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clue 7 curse persists

tight haven
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if only it was inflict heat or something

civic wolf
tight haven
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not consume an arts reaction

tight haven
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i have so fuckin many

civic wolf
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you say as the game shoves it up to your face telling you to engage with it

pulsar sedge
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to sig

tight haven
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if anyone needs clue 7 lmk

bronze plume
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Striker go spend 300 pulls on the standard banner and test if it gives the 2k arsenal tickets

daring dove
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Nice got the last flow upgrade, one more Thermite cutter for 28% ATK buff. Does anyone else find it a little whale baity how the last upgrade on a weapon offers doable the skill increase of all previous upgrades? 108_yaehmm

bronze plume
tight haven
next helm
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I can't

tight haven
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why

outer ermine
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PerliDerp theres no way i beat laev nukes here i cant apply half the buffs i want

tight haven
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ohhhh

bronze plume
tight haven
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beef...

outer ermine
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fuck it

bronze plume
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if i get

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p1 gilberta on her banner

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imma be sad

dry kindle
bronze plume
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im just wasting the 6 star pity for a potential rossi bro

humble hinge
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There are items in paid bp that increase any weapon potentials without needing its copy. Any recommendations for using it?

tight haven
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its like very obvious what the game is there

tight haven
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maybe they fuck up in the future and make a bp sig thats just better than a char's real sig

lime bear
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I have 60K oros now hmm and all my luck from free tix is nothing lmao. I'll just wait for Fangyi, alr dried up every chests in the game truly

pulsar sedge
humble hinge
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This thing is probably savior for sigs, no way in hell you get P5 signature without donating 1k$

humble hinge
pulsar sedge
lime bear
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I have like 50/80 pity now for the 50/50 I'm NOT gonna use Yvonne tix lmfao

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wait is the time limited ticket

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just disappear

tight haven
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yeah p5 sig for me took literally almost as much as p5 laev

pulsar sedge
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whatever you do just dont use it on the gilberta bp weapon

lime bear
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or turn into standard at least

tight haven
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i lost so hard

bronze plume
woeful plume
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is gilb sig that needed

tight haven
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thats pretty true

woeful plume
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i have it but im asking for people

dry kindle
tight haven
pulsar sedge
woeful plume
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because its like, what cant stanza do that sig does

tight haven
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stanza beats it

lime bear
tight haven
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a literal 5*

woeful plume
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i mean stanza vs delivery

tight haven
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stanza vs delivery is also a genuine question

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bc deliverys buffs are generally less "good"

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atk% is nutty

pulsar sedge
tight haven
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sig is 1000% better for non-speedrun stuff though

dry kindle
humble hinge
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What's the chance we are getting alters in endfield?

tight haven
bronze plume
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i might just cope with stanza bro

tight haven
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in favour

bronze plume
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i do not want to use the 6 star pity on a banner i already have the character for

humble hinge
bronze plume
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nor on one i dont want the character

dry kindle
outer ermine
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xaihi glow up PerliFumo when

woeful plume
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ig gilb sig has the cope of eventual nature dps

tight haven
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fangyi will be nature trust

dry kindle
humble hinge
dry kindle
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I mean

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It's not pgr

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So probably

humble hinge
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She's kinda green

woeful plume
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im not sure that anyone is anything

amber vapor
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Tangtang will prolly be nature ngl

humble hinge
bronze plume
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fangyi isnt yo girl gang

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thats a leek i grew in my garden

high finch
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Beef is starving

lime bear
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also so my pity rn is like 60/80 for the 5050, let's say there's new banner and I pulled 20 for and lost the 5050, it's gonna reset again to 0/80 right. so my next 5050 is at 100th?

amber vapor
humble hinge
pale sleet
lime bear
humble hinge
amber vapor
humble hinge
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Objectively, what could be more boring than phys greatsword based around giving% resist?

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Shield in endfield is boring, it is not even bonus hp

amber vapor
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Dawg how did you get lore banned

humble hinge
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I'll write appeal in a month or so

daring dove
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So a P5 Thermite cutter is a 95% increase to ATK for the personal holding it. Almost doabling their damage. It's kinda strange that even though it's suppose to be a support weapon even a main DPS could use it an it would still be top tier even when the main stat doesn't match. 108_yaehmm

daring dove
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I think it's likely the best weapon in the game.

humble hinge
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They're pretty valuable on the teams

proper ivy
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Hi is there a answer to if ult charge set is better than hot work set on a p5 laeva? or are they same dmg just comfier to use cus 1 rotation vs 2

daring dove
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It's kinda silly broken.

amber vapor
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I'd rather have 5 diff sigs than 5 thermites

humble hinge
next helm
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Every striker message is just bragging disguised as a message I am convinced its true

humble hinge
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Sleeper build is real PerliStareYou

pale sleet
amber vapor
next helm
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Women flushedtaco

humble hinge
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Birds are fragile after all

pulsar sedge
pale sleet
daring dove
next helm
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I said it twice

daring dove
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Actually I count 3

humble hinge
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Eagle eye?

pale sleet
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i've seen the video version of it Hehe

pulsar sedge
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like in genshin with bennett for example

humble hinge
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Endfield makes me wanna study 3d animation, I think it is a good fan project

pale sleet
pulsar sedge
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so stuff that boosts base attack is super valuable

outer ermine
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PerliFumo stanza, tc supremacy

humble hinge
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Actually I'll have to wait until people come up with a way to extract endfield models & textures

dire nymph
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wait how did you get lore banned

humble hinge
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Rn we have nothing of use

pulsar sedge
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thats why stanza is better than the gilberta bp weapon

daring dove
high finch
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I hope we actually get that mode from cbt1 one for arsenal pulls

humble hinge
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I am in a situation:

I don't need umbral, cause I have forgeborn
I don't need opus, cause I have stanza
I don't need navigator, since I am not pulling for Yvonne

What do I do?

tight haven
bronze plume
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ill IOU you when i pull for rossi

tight haven
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i can only speak for myself with maxed out sig and p5 laev

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charge set feels much better

dry kindle
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Ok whel

humble hinge
dire nymph
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lucksakc

rocky phoenix
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can someone explain
How
Endmin + perclia + chen + snowshine
In a team doesn't seem to work well end up working well?

like getting QTE nearly everytime

But i just wonder what could be better in a sense

daring dove
tight haven
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i really just dont see how hot works beats it

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at all

pulsar sedge
tight haven
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when youre 5+5

rocky phoenix
high finch
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I hope we will get atleast like 2k arsenal weekly mode

tight haven
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for now at least

humble hinge
daring dove
humble hinge
rocky phoenix
pulsar sedge
rocky phoenix
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Turn out she a sub healer + tank + counter attack

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The counter attack hard to do if i be honest

humble hinge
high finch
proper ivy
daring dove
rocky phoenix
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Idk how i cleared the game maybe because chen and endmin there

humble hinge
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Rn you get 100 arsenal tokens per week

rocky phoenix
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I doubt i can make a fullly functioning team......but should i replace snowshine with a free healer?

humble hinge
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Arsenal would've been fine with such steep price if it didn't dropped 4 stars

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4 stars in endfield is like 3 star in genshin, useless junk

proper ivy
daring dove
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Nice I just back-backed upgraded Flow to +3 for Akekuri & Infliction to +3 to Ardelia. Klee_Derp

humble hinge
tight haven
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from sig

next helm
daring dove
tight haven
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254.8% actually

humble hinge
bronze plume
# tight haven

is it a high pot only thing to forgo the ult gain gloves

next helm
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I remember in genshin I had to destroy weapon exp cause it would block you from collecting stuff like the bp 105_ICANT

humble hinge
next helm
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P4 gives you less ult cost

pulsar sedge
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p0 r4 needs ult gain gloves to be comfy based on testing in friend's acct

next helm
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So less ult efficiency is required

high finch
pulsar sedge
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otherwise you barely miss the ult and it feels like complete ass

amber vapor
humble hinge
high finch
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Dunno this made laugh so hard

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Im losing my shit

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“That’s 1% of a pull dude”

amber vapor
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Without the artificed ult gear

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That teeny sliver of ult missing is pain

high finch
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So in 100 days you can reach 100%

humble hinge
hidden marlin
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Only 800 days to guarantee the weapon what a deal

humble hinge
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Also more like in 300 days, cause you don't get this trade every day

high finch
humble hinge
#

Average time requirement to get reliques in GI

daring dove
#

3k attack Akekuri, not that does actually does any damage, need to get her weapon to 90 still.

pulsar sedge
lime nacelle
#

What a steal.

next helm
#

In those 800 days you could do 2000 pulls

#

Which would be how many weapon banner pulls? PES_Think

pulsar sedge
#

might be better in aoe content but we dont have enough difficult aoe stuff to rly see

amber vapor
pulsar sedge
high finch
# humble hinge 2

So the rules are simple: you play for 100 days hg gives you 1 5* and 9 4* wpns, deal?

next helm
#

Umbral afaik you start with 0 energy

#

Could be wrong tho

high finch
#

Man imagine if the rate up character has a good wpn for your account but you don’t want the characters. Isn’t it a disaster?

amber vapor
amber vapor
#

Minus spending 120 pulls

humble hinge
pulsar sedge
humble hinge
#

Credit store is so useless ong, very little resource gain from it

high finch
pulsar sedge
#

I test with no food and no ult

pulsar sedge
#

premium resources at that

amber vapor
high finch
#

Fair

amber vapor
#

Once I get Fangyi and her sig I'll go all out on essence farming and artificing gear

high finch
#

I have to go all the way to 80 to get laev signature

#

Scammazed

amber vapor
#

Till then I'm just burning sanity on skill and exp mats

pulsar sedge
humble hinge
high finch
#

I fully artificed laev gear and have her sword at 9/8/3 it’s almst done but I dunno what to do next. I kinda want to invest full phys but it will take so much time and I can see a situation when I’m not done with investing my phys team and then 1.1 comes out and one of the characters is phys and I have to build it from scratches

#

Laev is so good cause you only have to invest her

amber vapor
high finch
#

But building a full phys team is…… PerliDerp

lime nacelle
#

I'm gonna invest on my LIFENG! ahhh

pulsar sedge
lime nacelle
#

Gonna pull on his weapon banner right now.

amber vapor
#

Good luck 🫡

rustic knoll
#

is making a 2nd team hard in terms of ur resources, tempted to delve into electric but my cryo team is near maxxed so i dont know if ill have the mats

fickle comet
#

anyone familiar with the diffrent armor sets for lava cakes. I understand hot works has all the stats she wants but I am seeing another set i am guessing is for ult charge to spam ult as much as possible. it says you need to fully artifact the gear set, which I know what that is but it mentions p4 is that talking about her weapon and essence to get it up

lime nacelle
#

I lied. I have to wait until Friday.

pulsar sedge
#

particularly ardelia, antal, thermal, clannibal if u have that

amber vapor
pulsar sedge
#

you can get more healing bonus on ardelia sig if you want to be comfy

high finch
high finch
#

Just save up some mats and wait

pulsar sedge
#

if you have the bp you can convert sanity to syrup

#

n like save it for a rainy day

high finch
#

Resources are like… fucking crumbs. You need so much and you get so few per 80 sanity run. It reminds me of wuwa 1.0

pulsar sedge
#

resources are fine imo

smoky peak
#

While 6* weapons are just superior by virtue of stats alone, getting dupes for them isn't that easy.
Has there been research into max-dupe 5* weapons vs no-dupe 6* weapons?

lime nacelle
#

It's fine TBH, I have 1 level 90 character. I could get another one but I'm focusing on getting 2 teams of level 80s to try out.

pulsar sedge
#

the fact that theres no rng artifact system in this game and the alternative, essences only take around 30-40 runs to max per weapon

amber vapor
#

Once there's more side content to do you'll have more surplus too

lime nacelle
#

Right now I would rather try out multiple characters than fully invest into one single team. That's why I'm not bothering with artificing or etching.

daring dove
#

Archlight is the SP generator for lightening teams right, is she any good from the prospective of something who has built that team?

pulsar sedge
next helm
#

Arclight gets better the longer the fight is afaik

amber vapor
lime nacelle
#

Also how does Arclight generate SP when you have to spend SP in order to generate it? Someone please explain this to me because I still don't get it.

next helm
#

Else akekuri is better

pulsar sedge
#

like rly suck

lime nacelle
#

Like, I get how it works with Pog. Especially because he does need to apply Breach, and you getting SP back after (even if it's not the full amount you spent) is just a bonus. But then you factor in his ultimate and you're ACTUALLY getting SP back.

pulsar sedge
#

some of the 5 star support weapons r good

lime nacelle
#

Explain how that works with Arclight.

amber vapor
lime nacelle
#

😒

next helm
#

Her combo has a really low cd

high finch
next helm
#

And generates a slight amount

amber vapor
next helm
#

a character works without 9/9/4

amber vapor
#

And in that regard you can also stock up on tickets and juice

next helm
#

You could just go to 7/7/2 for multiple characters

amber vapor
#

Artificing and essences is just a way to increase your maximum

pulsar sedge
amber vapor
#

It's on no way a requirement in this game to do content

amber vapor
#

for now

next helm
#

It took me over 8 months to get a decent goblet/circlet one time for a character in genshin

high finch
pulsar sedge
#

its like statistically improbable or at least way harder than winning the lottery for someone to fully get perfect artifacts on a character

#

in genshin/wuwa/hsr

#

or other gachas that use a rng rolling arti system

daring dove
high finch
lime nacelle
#

Compare it not just to Genshin, but HSR, ZZZ, and Wuthering Waves. This was LITERALLY the reason why I quit Wuthering Waves - my echo storage filled up, and I didn't want to spend WASTE hours of my life going through them, with the very high chance of me not actually even getting an upgrade.

pulsar sedge
lime nacelle
#

5-star weapons have to be good. I mean... look how cute my Chen looks with her 5-star signature weapon. You guys better not trick me into thinking there's a better weapon for her. fastslam

daring dove
#

Thus to some extend the game expects them.

pulsar sedge
#

a 5 star dps weapon has to have like the most broken fucking skill in existence to make up for the lower stats u get from essences in order to compete with 6 stars

next helm
#

I thought rapid ascent was chens sig?

pulsar sedge
#

5 star support weapons r good bc you can leave them at 1/1/x and they'll still do their job

next helm
#

I hope we get more chens and lifengs

#

No 0.5% damage contribution aura shit

pulsar sedge
daring dove
pulsar sedge
#

I got 2 former fineries on the free 10 pull they gave for ardelia sig weapon banner

next helm
#

I got 1 former finery in my 80 to laev sig

#

You can expect like 3-4 + sig

amber vapor
#

Man I would have vastly preferred a wegine-like system compared to a wep system

lime nacelle
#

Light Cone system. 😌

next helm
#

Spending 80 pulls to lose a 75/25

#

and not get the next character you want 😩

lime nacelle
#

Hoyo's weapon banner is the worst thing in the industry.

next helm
#

Characters requiring 180~ sig 140

#

Patches that give 80 pulls

#

😩

lime nacelle
#

It's 160.

next helm
#

genshins pity is 90, altho its very unlikely you even get there

lime nacelle
#

I know "hard pity" is 90, but stastiscally speaking it makes no sense to consider it 180 when planning out pulls.

#

Even if you do go over 80 a few times, it's a lot more common for you to get it in less pulls. 160 is actually a high estimate.

next helm
#

I've hit 78-80 more than I don't

zinc maple
#

is it worth it to invest on lae signature weapon potentials?

#

idk if lae potentials is better than her sig potentials

next helm
#

This is like almost a year for me 105_ICANT

zinc maple
lime nacelle
#

Even your chart already proves my point. lol

zinc maple
lime nacelle
#

Well I had Welkin.

zinc maple
#

oo thats fair

summer flower
#

That's different game

lime nacelle
#

Speaking of which...

#

Does Endfield have a pull tracker like this?

dire nymph
lime nacelle
#

I don't wanna rely on my Excel. pleading

next helm
#

Okay

#

You are correct I hit 77 and up 21 times

#

since the start of my account

zinc maple
dire nymph
lime nacelle
#

Thanks. bagel

next helm
#

And have 49 5 stars

dire nymph
#

i use this one

zinc maple
lime nacelle
#

Wow now there's two.

#

Which one's better? Time to theorycraft.

next helm
#

That is almost half tho Blue bird

pulsar sedge
zinc maple
midnight stirrup
next helm
#

nah my luck is actually horendous

midnight stirrup
#

My Durin C6 pulls were horrendous

#

Oop

#

Same mind

next helm
#

I hit capturing radiance 3 times already

zinc maple
next helm
#

and am already on my 4th

midnight stirrup
#

I spent about 1200 on Durin C6

#

I spent 400 for P5 Laev

#

Imagine

dire nymph
#

capturing radiance merchant

next helm
#

I see green

pulsar sedge
pulsar sedge
#

tbh

#

I wouldn't advise pulling dupes until we get more info on the pull economy 😭

next helm
dry kindle
#

Wait umbral is weekly

#

Wao

dire nymph
#

wao

zinc maple
dire nymph
#

🧍‍♂️

pulsar sedge
#

the early char dupes for laev iirc

lime nacelle
#

I'm still mad about this. fastslam

pulsar sedge
#

r even worse

lime nacelle
#

This better mean my bad luck is out of the way.

next helm
#

wtf

#

bad luck?

lime nacelle
#

YES!

#

😠

dire nymph
#

i got good karma for going to 80 on pog's sig

lime nacelle
#

Let's not pretend there aren't 2 tiers of 6-star weapons.

pulsar sedge
next helm
#

I see 7 6 stars

pulsar sedge
#

but all the weapons u got r bad

#

but just in terms of quantity of 6 stars

lime nacelle
pulsar sedge
#

thats insane luck

next helm
#

wdym

dire nymph
#

i love mountain breaker

#

its not breaker

#

whatever

#

bearer

next helm
#

5 out of 7 are good weapons

pulsar sedge
next helm
#

Am I out of touch

lime nacelle
#

I'm gonna use my Gilberta pull allowance to try getting it.

pulsar sedge
#

isnt that pog's sig

lime nacelle
pulsar sedge
#

bruh

lime nacelle
#

Well OK the Lifeng one is coming in clutch but is kinda useless since I already plan on getting his signature later.

next helm
#

tableflip

lime nacelle
#

And Exemplar is good for panda I guess.

#

WTF am I doing with Oblivion and that yellow thing?

next helm
#

Its not what you want

#

but its good and lucky

lime nacelle
#

I just wanted ONE thing.

#

ONNNE!!!

#

25% chance.

#

I lost 25% chance 6 times.

next helm
#

I am just expecting that in my own pulls life

lime nacelle
#

Could be worse tho, I guess. You're right.

#

Could've just been one 6-star weapon. 😭

#

Now THAT would've sucked.

zinc maple
pulsar sedge
next helm
#

Does it not show guarantee?

lime nacelle
#

I've only done 50 pulls on Gilberta and got an early Lifeng which I'm kinda happy about since his C1 makes him so much better to play with Pog.

zinc maple
#

prob cuz different character banner

#

good enough

next helm
#

oof

weary oxide
#

Did anyone tried the full INT Laeva build?

#

With double Lynx gear

gritty olive
#

cant see someone dkt hat

#

but i know CN dislikes it

#

just go double redeemer seal(energy), xiranire gloves(not t1), and tidefall armor

#

ideally all of em with max aritifice ER for one rotstion laev

midnight stirrup
#

Although now that you mention it

#

I did get two Ventis and his sig

midnight stirrup
next helm
#

No I mean

dry kindle
next helm
#

Do 75 x 14

dry kindle
#

But it's in weekly missions

next helm
#

Thats already a fake number cause you can't lose all

dry kindle
#

Then again etchspace is there

next helm
#

The numbers don't add up peppercat

midnight stirrup
#

Wait why 75 x 14

dry kindle
#

Waaah

next helm
#

c6 is 7 copies no?

daring dove
next helm
#

If you would have lost all you'd still not reach 1200

midnight stirrup
#

Yes

pulsar sedge
#

i havent been able to make it work

zinc maple
drifting berry
#

Do Electric teams need/want Arclight? I already have Gilberta and Akekuri build so I was wondering if I can save resources by just making a team with Avywenna, Gilberta, Perlica, Akekuri.

midnight stirrup
drifting berry
#

idk why I even asked, if for some reason I needed a second team Akekuri would be on Laev team anyways.

zinc maple
pulsar sedge
#

I just calculated it

next helm
#

You can't lose 4x in a row

next helm
#

So its 12 5 stars x 75 thats 900 summons max

pulsar sedge
midnight stirrup
pulsar sedge
#

sry I quit genshin in 1.2 lol

next helm
#

5.0 added a system

midnight stirrup
#

Ur right it was 1080

next helm
#

If you lose too many 50/50s you get a counter that increases your odds, and gives a guarantee on the 4th

midnight stirrup
#

Im aware

#

I still spent 1080

#

I can show u my log

drifting berry
#

And does Avywenna also need potentials? I just got my first copy from Gilberta's banner and I got no dupes

daring dove
#

Not many Avywenna mains here sadly, hard to get good electric team advice. sadcat

midnight stirrup
#

Also keep in mind @next helm

#

I did also get both durin and venti sig and 2 venti copies

#

Not just 7 durin

next helm
#

Yeah that changes things

midnight stirrup
#

I mentioned it earlier

#

U mustve missed it

next helm
#

mb

midnight stirrup
#

Thats okay fast chat

next helm
#

I feel guilty when I spend like 20 euros

#

I don't know how you do it

midnight stirrup
#

Not my proudest moment

#

Believe me

#

Im just rly irresponsible

#

I shouldnt be playing these games but it is what it is

next helm
midnight stirrup
#

Akef is a lot cheaper

#

Thankfully

drifting berry
#

Yeah also without potential I don't even know if she can recover her ult once every 2 rotations. P1 is +50% ult energy per spear and P4 is -15% more energy ult.

swift tundra
#

Seeing everyone use Ember just for her basic attack string reminds me of the early days of a certain other game where everyone was using high phys basic attack build on a certain fire unit... Hopefully, this ages just as well. 😂

daring dove
midnight stirrup
#

Like dupes in akef still can get pricey

#

But I havent ran into that issue yet with gilb laev and lr

#

But I fot extremely lucky

next helm
#

Still thinking if I want to pull zibai I have guarantee for later character Capturing radiance ready 💀

midnight stirrup
#

Imma get Varka

#

And Nicole

next helm
#

Nicole for sure

midnight stirrup
#

Im mondstadt pilled

pulsar sedge
midnight stirrup
#

Im only missing Eula and Varka

#

My Klee is C4

#

Mondstadt chronicle please

pulsar sedge
#

I spent 150 on genshin during the first hu tao banner and it was enough to make me quit afterwards lol

next helm
#

C2 venti surely goes to the moon with nicole

daring dove
#

Ermm mines a bit disgusting... Considering I'm not even playing rn. 091_Run

midnight stirrup
next helm
#

Icant

midnight stirrup
#

Chotto

#

Lemme go Hoyolab

next helm
#

As a minimumwagie

#

I don't understand

midnight stirrup
#

Netherlands pays good

midnight stirrup
next helm
#

28 C6's

#

proceeds to whale in ak too

daring dove
tight haven
#

this is why you should support wealth redistribution

next helm
#

I make 15 an hour

pulsar sedge
#

I'm not like opposed to whaling but I want to experience what its like as a f2p/dolphin first ngl

dire nymph
lime nacelle
#

I'm just gonna get BP. MonaCryCute

next helm
#

Football andy

dire nymph
#

i like footie

midnight stirrup
dire nymph
next helm
#

Yes

midnight stirrup
#

But yea I get 15 too but I get a lot of bonusses

#

Got a great employer

next helm
#

Whaling with 15 an hour

#

In this housing crisis

#

wthellie

midnight stirrup
#

My apartment is pretty cheap

#

I pay like 400

next helm
pulsar sedge
#

I make way more than 15 and I'm too afraid to whale PerliDerp

#

but im am*rican

next helm
#

Yeah I make 15, I'm basically cooked in life

#

💀

lime nacelle
#

I have a lot saved up but my conscience...

pulsar sedge
#

so I have to save money in case I get a mild flu and have to spend 50k on medical bills

midnight stirrup
#

@next helm @daring dove

#

Then theres my amount of signatures lol

next helm
#

Not even that bad

#

why durin tho

midnight stirrup
#

Hes my second favorite after Klee

#

Also Durin C6 is cracked

next helm
#

I feel bad I skipped him

gritty olive
potent hornet
#

Hello all. i have been trying to post to the reddits but they keep auto removing my posts. I have stumbled onto some tech that i have been unable to reproduce on purpose but i have managed multiple times to do a final strike, dodge cancel, and then go straight into another final strike without needing more basic strikes. I have managed to do this on Last Right and Perlica. Anyone else run into this?

next helm
#

But columbina

midnight stirrup
#

Dont be hes a sidegrade at c0

dire nymph
#

wat does it even do i just know what he does on c0

midnight stirrup
#

He gives shred

#

And uh

dire nymph
#

more shred? wtf

midnight stirrup
#

Off field pyro

gritty olive
next helm
#

Venti + fischl kinda sucks

midnight stirrup
#

C6 durin gives def shred damage bonus to all elements quill effect from shenhe and er reduction

pulsar sedge
midnight stirrup
#

Klee c2 has stacking def shred with c6 durin

#

So my Klee cracked

#

I rly want C6 Klee

daring dove
dire nymph
#

sounds freaky wtf

daring dove
#

Apple still using that format for iPad's though although it's not exactly 4:3 I think it's more 3:2?

dire nymph
#

arent his er reqs already rly low bc of skill or does it just bump it to 0

#

to focus on other rolls

midnight stirrup
#

Hold on

#

But yes

dire nymph
#

ic

gritty olive
#

SHES SO PRETRYYY

next helm
#

Is this Jie?

pulsar sedge
#

I have the 13 inch m4 it might be different for different models

daring dove
# pulsar sedge my ipad pro is 4:3

Ah fair then. I think they'd be much better for gaming if they went to 16:9 or 16:10 though. But 4:3 is great for reading websites & books.

pulsar sedge
#

ipads suck for reading books

potent hornet
#

How are people not wanting to jump onto this final strike tech?

midnight stirrup
dire nymph
#

ive only seen 4:3 used in cs the past decade

midnight stirrup
#

Thats in dps mode

#

In supp mode its 30

next helm
#

Lunar has 100% def ignore

midnight stirrup
#

But with klee its 58%

dire nymph
#

they did well with the hexerei buffs

#

liyue next

midnight stirrup
dire nymph
midnight stirrup
#

But nefer and flins are boring as hell to play imo

#

Im a hexenzirkel gamer

next helm
#

Nefer is my vibe

#

Altho i wouldve liked if she had more feedback when her skill hits

dire nymph
#

didnt vibe with the cancels i enjoy mavuika more

midnight stirrup
#

I have bina and ineffa for my cyno

dire nymph
midnight stirrup
#

But thats it

dire nymph
#

it feels a bit lackluster idk

daring dove
#

Nefer is very easy to play. At high investment she's the best DPS in the game by a landside so much so that I doubt characters in 2027 will beat her. 108_yaehmm

next helm
#

at C6 you don't anim cancel

midnight stirrup
next helm
#

so yeah easy

#

Nefer is highest ceiling atm I think

potent hornet
# dire nymph wat tech

i haven't been able to reproduce it on purpose but i have managed it more than a couple of times. Get a final strike off with Last Right dodge cancel straight into another final strike

daring dove
midnight stirrup
#

Is this at c0

potent hornet
#

i have been able to chain it 3 times so far

midnight stirrup
#

Id have to look into it

next helm
midnight stirrup
#

I def seen Flins be stronger than Nefer mentioned in tc areas tho

dire nymph
#

from what ive seen from miliastra whels nefer does the most

midnight stirrup
#

But idk if that was at c6

daring dove
potent hornet
potent hornet
#

i have done it on perlica as well

daring dove
next helm
#

Dumb game

midnight stirrup
#

I see

next helm
#

2m dps

#

3 second fights

#

you don't even play anymore

midnight stirrup
#

I mean its c6