#theorycrafting
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i want gilbertas weapon but i need 40 pulls on weapon banner for it
i dont want gilberta again nor yvonne and probably not the 1st unit in 1.1
so i have to literally waste pulls for a weapon
yeah its ass
i want yvonnes weapon but theres no chance in hell im rolling on her banner
goofy ass weapon gacha system
except for the free rolls
goofy ass limited time slaped onto event
how was cbt1 the best iteration of the game
UNIRONICALLY the progression in cbt1 was the best
I don't even need more than 2 hours of playtime in GI to tell how little they've actually brought in this game
Everything else is stolen to the last bit
cbt2 was hell and release was just barely passable
I mean I'd make it 4k per week so each month you have enough tokens to assure 1 weapon with bad luck?
Assuming a 4 week month
thats also fair
yeah
whatever they do i hope it comes in 1.1
we'll see
1.1 should have a livestream right
Pull currency is running on fumes now. We might be stuck with 16/month for f2p
Imagine if it turns out like that
if they got the amount of revenue i think they got, i dont think we are getting any good changes
Nah this won’t happen. Ppl will mald like crazy
ye its way more on pc
so basically
yeah possibly
yeah if they are making bank why would they need to
react to it
its the hoyo style
if they eat the slop keep giving slop
no need to waste manpower to improvement
yeah that stinks
Who whales endfield right now? We didn't even got everything promised yet
im hoping theyre nice enough to keeo changing stuff for the better anyway but capitalism do be capitalisming
Like, what are they expecting?
Wasn’t original ak praised for being generous?
12/2 is the start of the pernament endgame mode no?
generous is a stretch
I remember my friend said like: dude you can get every single rate up as f2p
weeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllll
this my thought process why im coping with bp weapon for laev 😭
you could genuinely just lose every 50/50
the 6* rate was good but you didnt have any protection
except for the uh, 150 pull protection kick-in
next 6* going 150 pulls without a featured op guarantees them
and limited ops have a straight 300 guarantee that doesnt reset pity
It was closer to the original™ gacha style.
yep
Personally I don't believe in anything less than guaranteed. So I'm not convinced with rate ups or things like that
Fund my p5 sakiko
Never worked for me
even im not gonna p6 sakiko 
Oh yeah yeah
she kicked my boy out
she can pound sand
what did thorns ever do to you sakiko
asshole.
So “you can” means get fucking lucky
pretty much
yes
Wao
10 beryls from the M chests minimum
15 minimum from the L chests iirc
its like... kinda decent income
if you squint
wtf
yeah fair
the only ONLY good thing to come from cbt2
its abysmal dogshit but im being nice because in comparison to everything else it's a bit friendly
200 isnt one oull
by the time the bp ends
SHIII TERRIBLE SYSTEM IN GACHA? DOGWATER WEAPON SYSTEM
so guys
Didn’t they said they gonna increase sources of headhunting resources?
bro
anyway
I love opening 27 chest to get a single pull 
calm down
is ginseng the only farmable food? and its the best food right 180 base attack ?
tq
in thr future
also who the fuck knows what this means
is there a reason why would LR xaihi ardelia gilberta not be possible?
I hope it’s not the distant future
cuz ardelia corrosion triggers gilberta combo right
weapon system genuinely looks so cooked ngl
and vuln stack should last until the burst
if 1.0 sig is 10-15% better than max refine bp i dont wanna imagine what its like in a year
need 40 pulls to guarantee gilbertas weapon
i have gilberta already
thats.... the norm
no weapon pulls
i dont want yvonne and probably not whoever is the 1st character in 1.1
mb trauma from hoyo games but like it usually gets worse no
hopefully not, i think 15-20% is an okay spot
1.0
but a 15% gap rn is very normal cuz we have so few weapons
We don't know the pull economy yet
hoyo had the mistake of how to not play their game so favonius weapons exist
Sometimes I can be really nice to you, for example I ended up with P4 Gilberta sig just from using the pulls I got from her banner. Other times it can absolutely roast you alive for example I needed to buy a bunch of token packs to finish Laevatains weapon. 
man the pull economy is already dying
how many food buffs do i need to slap on lav for her to start trimming the re crisis?
thanks for being nice to me (wrong reply)
yh if it stays 15% i have no problem
Yeah was meant for @pulsar sedge 
apparently sigs in like wuwa or hsr are like 40% or sm crazy number like that
nah
F2ps cant max bp weapon so
with Wuwa its kind of a weird one time occasion where Rectifiers simply do not have a good perma alternative unless you got Yinlin's long ago which caused the 40% meme
I expect the 100~ pulls a patch like every gacha game
atm Lynae and Mornye doesnt need sig, and Aemeath is 20% from her perma option
Damn this thing sucks.
doesnt count to pity but it can consume it
yeah which is bad considering 3 banners a patch
👍
I mean I think potentials on Laevatains sig likely make a big difference in her personal damage. An extra 105% on your normals during your burst likely has a sizable impact but I haven't seen the exact maths for it.
It counts
You don't know if there are gonna be 3 banners a patch
sworce no it doesnt,
It just doesn't count to 120
We are in 1.0
it explicitly doesnt count to--yeah okay

Pulling out guaranteed weapon is 200$. Who's willing to pay so much for a WEAPON, not a character
bc fuck yvonne
5* tangtang banner 🔥
well yeah but that means having to go for potentials on a sig
not quite
One thousand catties of food.
Just pull 8 6* in 10 pulls
the arsenal ticket packs make it about $180--actually why am i being pedantic
Its that easy
youre right its dogshit either way
Sigs are free every 2x 120 limited pulls
shouldnt cost that much for a WEAPON
Point I'm mainly making is the game does has some vertical investment right now. But it's mostly tied to a characters weapon rather than their potentials. Which are mostly just comfort picks.
yeah thats not how the word free should be used
Honestly though I like that characters potentials are mostly just comfort picks.
In other gachas you have to choose between sig and characters
i git gil p3 because her p3 opens up funny potential team comps
I don't know what you are on about
Yup they are out right terrible pull value.
Now you dont
if you spend 240 pulls on this limited banner you can get the weapon absolutely free 🔥
i got laev p5 cuz shes awesome
@frozen tide is you awake
Only last pots are acceptable, but the road there is not.
-ult cost
Have you played other gachas?
last pot"s"
fangyi might be a p5 depending on how hard they develop her out
Pipebomb
I act think laev sig is less valuable than sheet numbers for most players tbh bc if you fuck up your rotation and dont get the ultimate in time you lose 7% dps vs bp right off the bat
You either skip 3 patches to get 1 character and a weapon
if shes just endmin's girl toy then blegh
Or you get 1 character every 1.5 patches
but yh without skill issue sig is quite a noticeable margin stronger
-getting lucky ofc
This isn’t all other gachas. Reverse weapons are completely free for instance
These weapons are also basically free
okay stop using the word free like that
They are limited, 1 time buy
thats not how free things operate
free things come without you spending for them in any capacity, as rewards for doing stuff
It's free after you spend the money
you got me there
my ass when i got gilberta on laevs banner so the only way to get her totally free weapon is to waste pulls on her banner
so.
The thing I have to think of though, is Genshin up until Yelan's release had really bad constellations for her characters that where mostly just comfort picks to (some made absolutely zero sense). But once Yelan released an she got 280% stronger with constellations...That opened up the flood gates for them to do that which most characters going foward. We'll see how long this game manages to balance potentials. 
is ult gain build the strongest Lava build atm?
strongest is content-dependent but for most players it is the most comfortable
trying to get trim (and failing)
it only gets better if you have her real sig and gets crazy once you have her p4/p5
Me when I get the featured op in the first 10 pull
no but its best for open world
wont help you trim
The weapon banner will be there for 3 banners
great i just artificed a lot lot for nothing then
So don't get lucky on the next one I guess...
ive been trolled
Or don't expect to own every sig
(the guide did not specify what its actually for)
And unless it's fangyi I'm not pulling so 🗿
people shouldnt get fucked over to get a weapon if they get lucky or dont want to get the upcoming characters
you can still trim with ult gain build lol
I trimmed with ult gain build, you’re fine
I trimmed with umbral torch
and I fucked up one rotation
they just need to add a mode or something that gives arsenal tokens a actually good amount outside of using character pulls
Better than genshin isn’t saying much
am i doing something wrong? my supports are min invest 60 and i gave the food buff but rhodagn is still tanky af
gang if i got a character in genshin early i could just use the rest of the pulls for the weapon banner
whats your essence
Getting lucky and complaining
theyre putting something in the water
okay
my water its turing into salt water
working on it
you need to level up your essence
who put salt in my water its a pool gang
essense or my Lava level?
It's far cheaper in this game to max characters than it is in Genshin to be honest. 
whats your ult charge %
maxed, i got all the artifice
You're using gensing food yes
wasting pulls on a character banner for a character i already have just for there weapon is ass and doesnt feel nice
thats all im saying
true
think about how this game
arknights endfield
is not genshin impact
ive been thinking about that beef
"it isn't the worst version of post-genshin banner system so clearly its not bad"
ive been thinking about it a whole lot.
arknights: honkai star genshin
poop from a butt vs shit from an ass
How many teams are needed for umbral?
one
cok and ball torture 1???
1
For someone like me who loses literally every 50/50 and goes to pity
this system is miles better
1, butt keep an eye out just in case they pull up a second team out of nowhere if this umbral is expanded from the first version
ye but the gamba system now becomes unfun
Just solo it
i doubt it will change because they would have announced it
like
thats pretty big change
i can't casually drop a ten pull on a random abnner and see if i get lucky early
it feels amazingly bad to do that now
You can
I also kinda think,maybe it’s a release thing but the mats we get per 80 sanity are so low. Like investing a full team like phys is gonna take ages
you get free pulls
this is what i get for wanting clannibal
Every banner
im a clannibal hater now i fear
80 pulls for never rest, now I'm homeless.
they should buff clannibal
this game suspiciously lacks yellow tickets instead of these crappy ass banner specific pull tickets
i shouldnt have gotten a weapon cuz now i cant get a different weapon
imm just
do pulls on standard im close to the 6 star pity there
that will totally feel better
yeah the banner-specific tickets thing is DEVIOUS
can't save it up, you HAVE to use it
wym how gang
funniest calc I did is if you fuck up the rotation enough clannibal + bp is better than sig and rational farewell
not the 300
You have the choice not to buy them
i doubt the 300 gives the 2k arsenal tickets
and purposely messes with you making you not pull until a week later
yeah you have to like
you gotta have like crazy skill issue for that tho
turbo jankify your rots to make it work
clue 7 curse persists
if only it was inflict heat or something
'its just an option bro'
not consume an arts reaction
you say as the game shoves it up to your face telling you to engage with it
it also just automatically loses if theres more than 2 enemies on screen
to sig
if anyone needs clue 7 lmk
Striker go spend 300 pulls on the standard banner and test if it gives the 2k arsenal tickets
Nice got the last flow upgrade, one more Thermite cutter for 28% ATK buff. Does anyone else find it a little whale baity how the last upgrade on a weapon offers doable the skill increase of all previous upgrades? 
do you have 8k arsenal tickets
yeah lmfao clannibal only affecting one enemy sucks
I can't
theres no way i beat laev nukes here i cant apply half the buffs i want
ohhhh
to give to me gang
beef...
fuck it
Oh 
im just wasting the 6 star pity for a potential rossi bro
There are items in paid bp that increase any weapon potentials without needing its copy. Any recommendations for using it?
yeah totally
its like very obvious what the game is there
Save it
save it for now
maybe they fuck up in the future and make a bp sig thats just better than a char's real sig
I have 60K oros now hmm and all my luck from free tix is nothing lmao. I'll just wait for Fangyi, alr dried up every chests in the game truly
did you pull for any of the limited charas
This thing is probably savior for sigs, no way in hell you get P5 signature without donating 1k$
I've got forgeborn P1, sheer luck
save it
I have like 50/80 pity now for the 50/50 I'm NOT gonna use Yvonne tix lmfao
wait is the time limited ticket
just disappear
yeah p5 sig for me took literally almost as much as p5 laev
whatever you do just dont use it on the gilberta bp weapon
or turn into standard at least
i lost so hard
but bro its so easy to get a 6 star weapon bro its 4% remember this aint genshin gang
is gilb sig that needed
thats pretty true
i have it but im asking for people
Yes
no gilbs bp sig is just dogshjt
no the bp just is ass
because its like, what cant stanza do that sig does
stanza beats it
ah ok
a literal 5*
i mean stanza vs delivery
stanza vs delivery is also a genuine question
bc deliverys buffs are generally less "good"
atk% is nutty
delivery is better but not better enough to warrant 15k arsenal tickets imo
sig is 1000% better for non-speedrun stuff though
Cool now fund me
What's the chance we are getting alters in endfield?

i might just cope with stanza bro
id give it a 80/20
in favour
i do not want to use the 6 star pity on a banner i already have the character for
Can't wait for six star fluorite, lol
nor on one i dont want the character

xaihi glow up
when
ig gilb sig has the cope of eventual nature dps
fangyi will be nature trust

Are we sure that fangyi is electro and not nature?
She's kinda green
im not sure that anyone is anything
Tangtang will prolly be nature ngl
More like phys gunner?
Beef is starving
also so my pity rn is like 60/80 for the 5050, let's say there's new banner and I pulled 20 for and lost the 5050, it's gonna reset again to 0/80 right. so my next 5050 is at 100th?
That sounds so plain and boring
Couldn't care less about leek dragon. In protest I'll ignore next 8 banners

Wait until you find out about phys shielders
Catcher is the goat don't even
Objectively, what could be more boring than phys greatsword based around giving% resist?
Shield in endfield is boring, it is not even bonus hp
Dawg how did you get lore banned
I got caught in crossfire with bitchy moderator
I'll write appeal in a month or so
So a P5 Thermite cutter is a 95% increase to ATK for the personal holding it. Almost doabling their damage. It's kinda strange that even though it's suppose to be a support weapon even a main DPS could use it an it would still be top tier even when the main stat doesn't match. 
I think it's likely the best weapon in the game.
It'll be the best for SP generators
They're pretty valuable on the teams
Hi is there a answer to if ult charge set is better than hot work set on a p5 laeva? or are they same dmg just comfier to use cus 1 rotation vs 2
Yeah but even a main DPS could use it, an it wouldn't effect their personal damage much.
It's kinda silly broken.
Getting p5 thermite doesn't sound worth it though
I'd rather have 5 diff sigs than 5 thermites
Not using main weapon feature is kind of a waste
Every striker message is just bragging disguised as a message I am convinced its true
Theory craft this
Sleeper build is real 
perlica has a nice view there 
There's like 4 whales active in this chat daily
Women 
Perli without coat feels too slim? But that's fair, all liberi are like that
Birds are fragile after all
yh thermite cutter is pretty broken lol
i mean, she's behind gilberta in that pic 
Or maybe I just like to explore high investment subjects, an look at what is potentially BiS long term. I don't even have P5 Thermite cutter. I kind of just ignore you when you say I'm bragging every time I post but it's getting a bit boring now. 
I said it twice
Actually I count 3
Damn it scrapper, you catched a glimpse of her dress
Eagle eye?
i've seen the video version of it 
smth else to note is that we dont have any rly good sources of base attack rn
like in genshin with bennett for example
Endfield makes me wanna study 3d animation, I think it is a good fan project

so stuff that boosts base attack is super valuable
do this
stanza, tc supremacy
Actually I'll have to wait until people come up with a way to extract endfield models & textures
wait how did you get lore banned
Rn we have nothing of use
thats why stanza is better than the gilberta bp weapon
Yeah it works a lot different in this game to Genshin as well though. As 95% ATK on a weapon in this game effectively doables your damage. In Genshin 95% ATK may only be a 30% damage increase.
I hope we actually get that mode from cbt1 one for arsenal pulls
I am in a situation:
I don't need umbral, cause I have forgeborn
I don't need opus, cause I have stanza
I don't need navigator, since I am not pulling for Yvonne
What do I do?
Question life
charge set ekes out over hot work the more potentials you have in sig and also when your laev is p5 im pretty sure
give Beef 8k arsenal tickets
ill IOU you when i pull for rossi
i can only speak for myself with maxed out sig and p5 laev
charge set feels much better
Ok whel
Millionaire right here
lucksakc
yeah true
can someone explain
How
Endmin + perclia + chen + snowshine
In a team doesn't seem to work well end up working well?
like getting QTE nearly everytime
But i just wonder what could be better in a sense
100% agreed there, not sure if it's mathematically better yet. But in terms of gameplay & team flow there's a night a day difference.
This is a mess
charge set is better with max sig and p0 laeva i believe lol
when youre 5+5
Yet is my first team i ever have
I hope we will get atleast like 2k arsenal weekly mode
for now at least
I can understand perlica, but what snowshine achieves in this team?
Definitely doesn't, I was thinking more slab setups with like 8-9k ATK on Leavatain.
Whole 1 arsenal pull a week for free? Too generous for GH, not happening
No clue at first i added her went she show up in my mailbox
And i was like HMMMMM
havent done any look into p5 but I doubt its worse
Turn out she a sub healer + tank + counter attack
The counter attack hard to do if i be honest
Snowshine can play only in cryo teams, your team is half-phys
Atleast as a bare minimum if we include paid bp and pulls you spend on limited and maybe even some free std pulls we can get our hands on some signatures
Ikr XD
Ahh I see, ty I got p4 wep and p5 laeva, perfect. I will work towards them now
Btw out of interest how much ult gain are you running on your Laevatain. I found 80+ to be comfy.
Idk how i cleared the game maybe because chen and endmin there
How about 1 arsenal pull/5 months?
Rn you get 100 arsenal tokens per week
yh def go charge set
I doubt i can make a fullly functioning team......but should i replace snowshine with a free healer?
Arsenal would've been fine with such steep price if it didn't dropped 4 stars
4 stars in endfield is like 3 star in genshin, useless junk
its with hot work gloves right?
Nice I just back-backed upgraded Flow to +3 for Akekuri & Infliction to +3 to Ardelia. 
Losing +50% heat damage set bonus is really worth it?
it doesn't
you have 210% dmg+
from sig
Less useless imo, in genshin you actually don't use them at all, in endfield they do serve their use as weapon exp 
Yeah same as me. 
254.8% actually
In exchange your weapon xp income is more limited
is it a high pot only thing to forgo the ult gain gloves
I remember in genshin I had to destroy weapon exp cause it would block you from collecting stuff like the bp 
You can always have more 
yes
P4 gives you less ult cost
p0 r4 needs ult gain gloves to be comfy based on testing in friend's acct
So less ult efficiency is required
Hey you can get 20 arsenal tickets from ship shop

otherwise you barely miss the ult and it feels like complete ass
Token shop giving 10 or whatever currency too
That's 1% of the pull, that's crazy
Yeah with my p0 Laev it takes 2.1 rotations
Without the artificed ult gear
That teeny sliver of ult missing is pain
So in 100 days you can reach 100%
And get 10 4-star weapons lmao
Only 800 days to guarantee the weapon what a deal
Also more like in 300 days, cause you don't get this trade every day
Wow 3 years
Average time requirement to get reliques in GI
3k attack Akekuri, not that does actually does any damage, need to get her weapon to 90 still.
if you're casual and p0r4 running ult gain is actually way harder than hot works (at least if you want to keep up w/ dps)
What a steal.
In those 800 days you could do 2000 pulls
Which would be how many weapon banner pulls? 
2
maybe i just fucking suck at the game but I see myself as about as good as the avg player and I got consistently faster rhodagon clears with hot works (testing on friends acct)
might be better in aoe content but we dont have enough difficult aoe stuff to rly see
I'm aware. I'm too lazy to artifice or essence farm rn anyways coz I'm too busy so. I don't even have sig or bis non sig just wnn
if you dont have sig dont run it at all 💀💀
So the rules are simple: you play for 100 days hg gives you 1 5* and 9 4* wpns, deal?
This is probably also cause you start with full ult bar, less value from the ult efficiency for the whole first rotation and you do more dps the first rotation
Umbral afaik you start with 0 energy
Could be wrong tho
Man imagine if the rate up character has a good wpn for your account but you don’t want the characters. Isn’t it a disaster?
Yeah I don't hate myself enough to lose dmg on an unoptimized setup lmao. Hot works works well enough even without artifice to clear content.
nah I act start with 0 ult
Jokes aside it seem like the main way to get 6*s will just be the bp chests
Minus spending 120 pulls
You don't get arsenal token trade every day, more like once in a 3 days
since I was mostly trying to test idc abt trimming if I had ult bar it would be even bigger difference tho
Credit store is so useless ong, very little resource gain from it
I want lifeng and lr wpns but I have 3k arsenal tickets and 200 pulls but I don’t want to pull Gilberta 
I test with no food and no ult
its free resources
premium resources at that
I have enough arsenal tickets for a sig but I'm holding till Fangyi
Fair
Once I get Fangyi and her sig I'll go all out on essence farming and artificing gear
Till then I'm just burning sanity on skill and exp mats
did you like not pull on standard banners those are rly low arsenal ticket counts
More like nothingshop
It doesn't shifts weather at all
I fully artificed laev gear and have her sword at 9/8/3 it’s almst done but I dunno what to do next. I kinda want to invest full phys but it will take so much time and I can see a situation when I’m not done with investing my phys team and then 1.1 comes out and one of the characters is phys and I have to build it from scratches
Laev is so good cause you only have to invest her
I think the math is like a 1/16 chance of getting orobs or arsenal coins in the token shop
But building a full phys team is…… 
I'm gonna invest on my LIFENG! 
oh you got sig
Gonna pull on his weapon banner right now.
Good luck 🫡
is making a 2nd team hard in terms of ur resources, tempted to delve into electric but my cryo team is near maxxed so i dont know if ill have the mats
anyone familiar with the diffrent armor sets for lava cakes. I understand hot works has all the stats she wants but I am seeing another set i am guessing is for ult charge to spam ult as much as possible. it says you need to fully artifact the gear set, which I know what that is but it mentions p4 is that talking about her weapon and essence to get it up
I lied. I have to wait until Friday.
get all your other weapon essences for your laev team to 1/1/3 at least
particularly ardelia, antal, thermal, clannibal if u have that
Yeah it is a lot. Honestly safest bet is just getting skill up mats since you burn through it fast
you can get more healing bonus on ardelia sig if you want to be comfy
I got ardelia 1/1/3 and akeruri thermal
Yeah I though so
Just save up some mats and wait
Resources are like… fucking crumbs. You need so much and you get so few per 80 sanity run. It reminds me of wuwa 1.0
resources are fine imo
While 6* weapons are just superior by virtue of stats alone, getting dupes for them isn't that easy.
Has there been research into max-dupe 5* weapons vs no-dupe 6* weapons?
It's fine TBH, I have 1 level 90 character. I could get another one but I'm focusing on getting 2 teams of level 80s to try out.
the fact that theres no rng artifact system in this game and the alternative, essences only take around 30-40 runs to max per weapon
Game hasn't been out long is why. Yeah the resources are a massive dump of sanity but it shouldn't take more than a week to build a full team and then after that you just have surplus sanity to use to stockpile on resources again
Once there's more side content to do you'll have more surplus too
Right now I would rather try out multiple characters than fully invest into one single team. That's why I'm not bothering with artificing or etching.
Archlight is the SP generator for lightening teams right, is she any good from the prospective of something who has built that team?
theres some big issues with the current state of the game but idt sanity is one of them
Arclight gets better the longer the fight is afaik
I've seen people replace arclight with Gilb
Also how does Arclight generate SP when you have to spend SP in order to generate it? Someone please explain this to me because I still don't get it.
Else akekuri is better
most 5 star dps weapons suck
like rly suck
Like, I get how it works with Pog. Especially because he does need to apply Breach, and you getting SP back after (even if it's not the full amount you spent) is just a bonus. But then you factor in his ultimate and you're ACTUALLY getting SP back.
some of the 5 star support weapons r good
Explain how that works with Arclight.
So the "refunded" is separate from normally generated sp. Essentially the game is overly complicating the fact that the skill costs less per cast.
😒
Her combo has a really low cd
Wdym week. Only upgrading essence to 9/9/4 for 1 character will take a week or even more. And if we talk about phys team you want it for atleast 2 or 3 of them
And generates a slight amount
Character themselves, not including essence and artifices.
a character works without 9/9/4
And in that regard you can also stock up on tickets and juice
You could just go to 7/7/2 for multiple characters
Artificing and essences is just a way to increase your maximum
i dont wanna do the comparing to genshin thing but like once you max upgrade essence and gear for 1 character you've maxed them out and there's pities for both systems that allow you to upgrade 1 character per month at most
It's on no way a requirement in this game to do content
This is what I like.
for now
It took me over 8 months to get a decent goblet/circlet one time for a character in genshin
Ah okay. I though like max max
its like statistically improbable or at least way harder than winning the lottery for someone to fully get perfect artifacts on a character
in genshin/wuwa/hsr
or other gachas that use a rng rolling arti system
I mean 6* weapons in this game have a 4%? drop rate. The game kinda expects people to have them even F2P's. You also get 6* weapons from the BP.
Nah it’s impossible dont even think of it
Compare it not just to Genshin, but HSR, ZZZ, and Wuthering Waves. This was LITERALLY the reason why I quit Wuthering Waves - my echo storage filled up, and I didn't want to spend WASTE hours of my life going through them, with the very high chance of me not actually even getting an upgrade.
the person was asking if 5 star weapons were good lol
5-star weapons have to be good. I mean... look how cute my Chen looks with her 5-star signature weapon. You guys better not trick me into thinking there's a better weapon for her. 
I know I'm making the point that it's not like Genshin for example where a large majority of the player base just uses 4* weapons. An the 5* stuff is quite rare unless you're a spender. In this game 6* weapons are very common.
Thus to some extend the game expects them.
a 5 star dps weapon has to have like the most broken fucking skill in existence to make up for the lower stats u get from essences in order to compete with 6 stars
I thought rapid ascent was chens sig?
5 star support weapons r good bc you can leave them at 1/1/x and they'll still do their job
yeah but on the flipside a lot of the 6 star weapons fucking suck asw 😭
Don't remind me this thing won't leave me the hell alone. 
I got 2 former fineries on the free 10 pull they gave for ardelia sig weapon banner
Man I would have vastly preferred a wegine-like system compared to a wep system
Light Cone system. 😌
Hoyo's weapon banner is the worst thing in the industry.
It's 160.
genshins pity is 90, altho its very unlikely you even get there
I know "hard pity" is 90, but stastiscally speaking it makes no sense to consider it 180 when planning out pulls.
Even if you do go over 80 a few times, it's a lot more common for you to get it in less pulls. 160 is actually a high estimate.
I've hit 78-80 more than I don't
is it worth it to invest on lae signature weapon potentials?
idk if lae potentials is better than her sig potentials
f2p?
Well I had Welkin.
oo thats fair
That's different game
yeah forgot the link tho
I don't wanna rely on my Excel. 
Thanks. 
And have 49 5 stars
i use this one
that works too
That is almost half tho Blue bird
depends on how whale u are
yea there are multiples
Genshin be like
nah my luck is actually horendous
I hit capturing radiance 3 times already
im just a bp buyer
and am already on my 4th
capturing radiance merchant
I see green
if you go all the way to p5/r9 then go for chara dupes but if you want to stop in between then go for weapon dupes
oh 💀
tbh
I wouldn't advise pulling dupes until we get more info on the pull economy 😭
Thats impossible
hm
interesting👀
you are getting 4-5% dps per weapon dupe
the early char dupes for laev iirc
I'm still mad about this. 
r even worse
This better mean my bad luck is out of the way.
i got good karma for going to 80 on pog's sig
Let's not pretend there aren't 2 tiers of 6-star weapons.
thats good luck lol
I see 7 6 stars
This is what I want next. 
thats insane luck
wdym
wait thats not even true
Am I out of touch
I'm gonna use my Gilberta pull allowance to try getting it.
isnt that pog's sig
Lemme check.
bruh
Well OK the Lifeng one is coming in clutch but is kinda useless since I already plan on getting his signature later.
tableflip
And Exemplar is good for panda I guess.
WTF am I doing with Oblivion and that yellow thing?
I am just expecting that in my own pulls 
Could be worse tho, I guess. You're right.
Could've just been one 6-star weapon. 😭
Now THAT would've sucked.
a
you cope
Does it not show guarantee?
I've only done 50 pulls on Gilberta and got an early Lifeng which I'm kinda happy about since his C1 makes him so much better to play with Pog.
idk
prob cuz different character banner
good enough
oof
cant see someone dkt hat
but i know CN dislikes it
just go double redeemer seal(energy), xiranire gloves(not t1), and tidefall armor
ideally all of em with max aritifice ER for one rotstion laev
LOL MY BANK THINKS OTHERWISE

Although now that you mention it
I did get two Ventis and his sig
The oreberyl part or the normal part
No I mean
Do 75 x 14
But it's in weekly missions
Thats already a fake number cause you can't lose all
The numbers don't add up peppercat
Wait why 75 x 14
Waaah
c6 is 7 copies no?
Of course that square ass screen was an iPad. 
If you would have lost all you'd still not reach 1200
Yes
you can use hot work gloves apparently even at p0 but its insanely tight
i havent been able to make it work
its not weekly tho
Do Electric teams need/want Arclight? I already have Gilberta and Akekuri build so I was wondering if I can save resources by just making a team with Avywenna, Gilberta, Perlica, Akekuri.
Hold on ill calculate when im home
idk why I even asked, if for some reason I needed a second team Akekuri would be on Laev team anyways.
I think its not gonna work unless you already stacking some energy before
if you lost all it would cost 2160 usd
I just calculated it
You can't lose 4x in a row
arclight better especially at p5
So its 12 5 stars x 75 thats 900 summons max
is this a new system
Just checked my lootbar for that time
sry I quit genshin in 1.2 lol
5.0 added a system
Ur right it was 1080
If you lose too many 50/50s you get a counter that increases your odds, and gives a guarantee on the 4th
And does Avywenna also need potentials? I just got my first copy from Gilberta's banner and I got no dupes
Not many Avywenna mains here sadly, hard to get good electric team advice. 
p2 is enough i think
Also keep in mind @next helm
I did also get both durin and venti sig and 2 venti copies
Not just 7 durin
mb
Thats okay fast chat
Not my proudest moment
Believe me
Im just rly irresponsible
I shouldnt be playing these games but it is what it is


Yeah also without potential I don't even know if she can recover her ult once every 2 rotations. P1 is +50% ult energy per spear and P4 is -15% more energy ult.
Seeing everyone use Ember just for her basic attack string reminds me of the early days of a certain other game where everyone was using high phys basic attack build on a certain fire unit... Hopefully, this ages just as well. 😂
Than Genshin for sure it is, I say that as a big Genshin spender.
Absolutely
Like dupes in akef still can get pricey
But I havent ran into that issue yet with gilb laev and lr
But I fot extremely lucky
Still thinking if I want to pull zibai I have guarantee for later character Capturing radiance ready 💀
I was thinking about it but nah
Imma get Varka
And Nicole
Nicole for sure
Im mondstadt pilled
same
I spent 150 on genshin during the first hu tao banner and it was enough to make me quit afterwards lol
Ermm mines a bit disgusting... Considering I'm not even playing rn. 
Real
Icant
Mine looks similar tbh
Chotto
Lemme go Hoyolab
Netherlands pays good
godneffa

Yeah I can do 2 million DPS in Genshin. 
this is why you should support wealth redistribution
miliastra’s best use
I'm not like opposed to whaling but I want to experience what its like as a f2p/dolphin first ngl
psv or feyenoord
I'm just gonna get BP. 
Football andy
i like footie
Youre dutch too? Pog

Yes

I have a lot saved up but my conscience...
so I have to save money in case I get a mild flu and have to spend 50k on medical bills
I feel bad I skipped him
seems that you have quite some stigma about it
Hello all. i have been trying to post to the reddits but they keep auto removing my posts. I have stumbled onto some tech that i have been unable to reproduce on purpose but i have managed multiple times to do a final strike, dodge cancel, and then go straight into another final strike without needing more basic strikes. I have managed to do this on Last Right and Perlica. Anyone else run into this?
But columbina
Dont be hes a sidegrade at c0
wat does it even do i just know what he does on c0
more shred? wtf
Off field pyro
but is it better than tidefall chest or er spam
Venti + fischl kinda sucks
C6 durin gives def shred damage bonus to all elements quill effect from shenhe and er reduction
yes if you can get ult up in one rotation lol (im talking hot work gloves and max ult gain everywhere else)
Klee c2 has stacking def shred with c6 durin
So my Klee cracked
I rly want C6 Klee
Nope it's just I rarely see 4:3 screens nowa days so it's so rare to see footage in that format. They stopped making 4:3 screens in the in the late 90's elsewhere. 
sounds freaky wtf
Apple still using that format for iPad's though although it's not exactly 4:3 I think it's more 3:2?
arent his er reqs already rly low bc of skill or does it just bump it to 0
to focus on other rolls
Erm
Hold on
But yes
my ipad pro is 4:3
ic
SHES SO PRETRYYY
I have the 13 inch m4 it might be different for different models
Ah fair then. I think they'd be much better for gaming if they went to 16:9 or 16:10 though. But 4:3 is great for reading websites & books.
ipads suck for reading books
How are people not wanting to jump onto this final strike tech?
The stacks give 60% atk scaling bonus per stack. Great on Klee.
ive only seen 4:3 used in cs the past decade
70% def ignore

But with klee its 58%
I mean yea
i play flins and i lowkey didnt even know that
didnt vibe with the cancels i enjoy mavuika more
wat tech
I have bina and ineffa for my cyno
i have this with zibai rn
But thats it
it feels a bit lackluster idk
Nefer is very easy to play. At high investment she's the best DPS in the game by a landside so much so that I doubt characters in 2027 will beat her. 
at C6 you don't anim cancel
Doesnt Flins and Zibai beat Nefer
i haven't been able to reproduce it on purpose but i have managed it more than a couple of times. Get a final strike off with Last Right dodge cancel straight into another final strike
Nope Zibai isn't half of Nefer rn at high investment.
Is this at c0
Hmm
i have been able to chain it 3 times so far
Id have to look into it
You are probably canceling the hit and redoing it
I def seen Flins be stronger than Nefer mentioned in tc areas tho
from what ive seen from miliastra whels nefer does the most
But idk if that was at c6
Nefer is 2.3m DPS at high invest Zibai's about 1.05m like Skirk.
her image strike goes off tho
C6 or c0
i have done it on perlica as well
hm ill try once i get home
C6, at C0 they're all around the 140-150k mark.
Dumb game
I see
I mean its c6








