#theorycrafting
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From Wulf to Antal is a sht tons more dmg.
i mean as long as everyone does their due diligence before trying out third party applications, it's fine
Industry plant
But more clunky gameplay you need to adapt.
And a slower rotation
but why not just run both
they might get comms yeah bc saving makes people want to spend more 
Hoyo = lootbar , shocking
Pretty much
Because Arde is cute.
Akekuri link op
i've seen some conflicting information on what is actually laev's best team
why not run all three 
Anyway moving on
Tbh I’d just run wulf + ake + antal, screw ardelia
Oop
Ofc no one removing Ake.
Didnt mean to quote
lol I was about to say
I can’t test it right now, but if we just leave ult with 4 heat afflictions can’t we just perma ult
Arde is actually kinda clunky in the team surprisingly
Ult bot.
debuff bot
Art susceptibility bot
this is assuming 1 rotation artifice build?
yeah
there seems to be only 1 youtube channel going in-depth into laevatain's rotations and they're running this team
yes at that point you can drop akekuri I guess
oh i meant like laevatain, ardelia, akekuri, antal
Hello everyone, just wanna ask how much cool down reduction can we get for combo skill?
cause wulf doesn't do anything other than apply heat afflictions
arde isn't bad because you can corrosion pop for laev's combo skill but I generally don't like it for trimmed medals. it's good in overworld/random combat though
i feel like wulf is only good when you don't start with ult
That’s the standard team
i've invested in both arde and antal just about equally
Which ult
so i can swap them whenever i guess
What does that change
so you're going to 2x akekuri skill instead for your next rotation?
so you leave ult with 4 heat afflictions to get ult again
oops sorry responded to wrong person
Does anyone know how much cool down reduction can we get for combo skills?
I need Rossi to retire Antal/Akkekuri/Ardelia
it still takes 2x team skills to get full ult charge
is rossi speculated to be fire?
more likely they end up together on the same team
can't wait for rossi to be a heat vanguard and powercreep ake
antal/ard or akekuri are most up for replacement
1 EBS, 1 CS, 2x team skills (aka heat applications) to get ult
Tbh Rossi meaning red does hint at being a heat unit
Rossi might be made for laev
wulfgard is just really efficient sp-wise
heat bot for the unit that wants heat stacks is fair to me
i feel like the damage increase with antal over wulf makes it veyr worth it to just not use wulf's battle skill
since you're getting 2x applications for 100 sp and also free combust on ult
exactly
he exists for that one purpose and it's fine
...what? how are you going to get heat then
you leave ult with 4 heat
yes that's one EBS
there's a rot that ignores ult ebs entirely
And then after how are you gonna stack them again fast?
for more ults and basic spam
could not tell you if its better or worse than normal gameplay
ok i might be lost rn, i thought her battle skill + combo + 2 team skills gets you ult again
yes
praying to god it's worse bc that'd be fucked upp
on the charge set
If you have 208% ult efficiency
yeah isn't that the build everyone runs (except p4)
if you don't have wulfgard who is comboing
<- woman who runs hot work
also which 2x team skills are you using
idk what antal does ngl but i guess ardelia and akekuri
Amps
imma have to research this more but i saw someone post it and they shredded the boss
and then i realized we don't need heat appliers that much
yes we do laev wants them often
well that's why wulf exists
he's a 2-for-1 applier
super space efficient for laev teams
also combust bot for laev’s combo
Yesterday someone said Wulfgard does nothing for the Laev team and I had a double take

lol
They dropped Wulfgard for Gilb, so yeah lol
lotta people just saying whatever about this game ngl
💀
ok wait im curious now, so with ult gear all we need is laev battle skill, laev ult, laev combo and two team battle skills?
people just be saying stuff
or do we need more team combos
okay maybe there's a world where a new operator has 2-for-1 + support buffs and then i can agree
You gotta artifice them to reach the breakpoint
combos only give energy to the character who does them
but it's not this world so far
yeah ik im talking about endgame cause we're in theorycrafting
ok so if we took out wulf and ended ult with like 1 heat stack
you get one from ake and then what
ok wait lemme check the heat affliction ardelia and akekuri skill gives
one from cs ig
Ard doesn't give any heat infliction
so maybe we leave ult with 2
and then you 3x akekuri skill duh
ake is 1 on battle skill
for a cheap 300sp loss
It's just so easy!
ard is 0, but corrosion off her combo procs combo on laev for 1 mf
i thought she did
atp just start spamming laev bs cro
That’s ake not ardelia
man im at school rn so i can't check the game 
ok well then leave ult with 3 heat affliciton 👍
just leave with 4
oh right i forgor about that
Btw his logic for dropping Wulfgard for Gilb is that in AoE situations Akekuri is enough heat infliction
Which is such a slippery slope of an argument since you're clearly optimizing for one specific form of content, but whatever
i mean let's say umbral monument has 3x mobs every stage then yeah that might be fair... but also why wouldn't you run wulfgard anyway because his ult combusts in aoe
Wulf is the one with the aoe inflicts and combust too lol
ok wait im tryna optimize for single target bosses
That's what I said 💀
prolly shoulda clarified that
replacing wulf and not ard with gilb in laev team is actually insane
idk what gilb does ngl lol
jamiroquai virtual insaity
Grouping+Nature Infliction
just accept wulfgard as your heat savior
which boss do you guys go to for testing your dmg?
he's very good
rhod
rhod
Rhod's the punching bag
target dummy #1
why do we want gilberta
Yeah but he kinda dies too fast ngl
we... do?
she pulls enemies together genshin style
ye but i mean with a single target
AoE grouping, but she normally replaced Ardelia
i'm honestly skipping gilb
enemy pull and boost on demand
Her art susceptibility is higher than ardelia
we don't
the 30% debuff is quite big for a burst window
33% with lift
hmmm
Gilb is more of an overworld/add grouping pick, Ard offers more in ST
ard cs triggers laev cs for free which is certainly one of the decisions of all time
okay lets restart, in an endgame single target scenario where we are trying to get the lowest time possible on a boss
Antal, Wulfgard, Ard
would antal, ardelia, akekuri, laevatain be the best team?
Maybe drop Ard for Ake if that's possible, I haven't tested that 
lowest time possible?
antal ake gilb
why does the tooltip says it triggers when there is no inflicts, but it triggers anyway with inflicts 💀
low time but reasonable?
antal ake wulf
laev eats the heat
so it ends up being no inflict
i personally did all trims with this team
if laev doesn't eat everything then it actually doesn't proc
gilb has the higher ceiling because of that nutty amp but yeah you can't go wrong with antal ake wulf
Why'd you drop Wulfgard after hearing us talk for 10 minutes about how important Wulfgard is in a Laev comp? 🥀
okay wait lemme explain my thinking
if you're speedrunning you dont use wulf
from what i see, his value lies in his 2 heat applications
if you want consistent rots over time you use wulf
Replace ardelia with wulf and yes it would be
if you leave ult with those 2 heat applications then you don't need him
is that reasonable thinking
3 at P5*
if you're running charge set ig
if you're doing charge set stuff you leave with 4
i'm a hot work and ult ebs enjoyer so
would a diff set have better dps?
we need some kind of actual target dummy with stats
i'm only hitting like 170-180k on my ult ebs it's sick and twisted
i legit need someone to tell me what i am doing wrong
whats the lineup
Wulf Enh BS doesn't apply heat infliction though? You'd need to use Ake BS after Wulf ult to get anther combo proc
what is the current team ppl like using for re-crisis?
why does this matter
in this case you would actually do standard rotation while spamming auto with laev
Tbh I wanna go with the hot work route as well
I already feel like I get ult pretty fast without charge set
cause the main reason im bringing up taking out wulf is from a reddit clip of an almost sub 1 minute fat dude kill
You said Wulfgard applies 4 infliction at P5, unless I misunderstood that statemenet?
i forgot his name
Rhod.
tfw male character:
You should see the hate towards Da Pan
I’ve seen a 1min rhod kill with ember dude
i fucking hate da pan so much
But he's so sick!
DUDE i love da pan
any infliction (+1) > combo (+1) > ult (laev combo 1mf) > any infliction (+1) > combo (+1)
5/4 mf in this case
my vitriol towards da pan could actually kill a man
da pan doesn't deserve this
how 
Rhod fight is really short, so buffmaxxing Antal > Wulf is acceptable.
I have max potential pan ❤️
Da pan is funny lol
the infliction and second combo can come during laev ult
however
I’d prob have max potential everyone but most pulls are snow shine 😩
okay, so we're not considering Wulfgard as a single applicator. We came to the same conclusion, I just misinterpreted your words lol
https://fixupx.com/i/status/2019712711203115149
Watch this man lock tf in
just get him to p3
he actually has so much personality i love it
my privileged ass with P5 
what is the lowest time on rhodagn rn?
If we get a 6* phys dps unit im switching to the phys team lol
like 15-17 secs or something
Da Pan could be the typical funny unc type if he was more visually friendly.
He's so cool!
how tf
I swear the other day I saw Electric get sub 15
I'm not the target audience butI respect the idea.
they need to make a miyabi/vergil type character i'll switch to that team no matter what it is
i only watched the first rot but no ardelia susc, no ake ult might be the indication
he's already visually friendly though
i'll even play shatter
he's perfect the way he is
big and round = friend shaped
I wouldn't call fatass no pants bear that but it's ok.
avywenna pre-prep doesn't count
however his role pisses me off
it still a speedrun
see above
ok wait so like the 15s isn't actually 15s?
endfield speedruns start on pull, not on entering stage
thats what the community decided
what is pull
aggro the boss
yeah am i messing up my rot bc ake ult is whatever but i always run out of sp when i try to hit ard bs
when you start the boss
Aggro.
not when you load in
oh
whats the record for a laeva team
15s
damn do u have a vid thats crazy
思路討論@唐傀
賬號提供@老王大人666
數據計算@墨泠渺
封面製作@保存ctrl-s-
挺難打的,42對比三測被削了太多太多了,現在的數值只有三測的70%左右,凹全程暴擊才能復刻三測的軸,所以只能用超越三測的軸了
打的比較隨意,還不算極限,凹下暴擊極限...
Bro goes on all 4 when dodging but sprints like a mad man with a speed boost what 😂
huh so it uses gilb instead of akekuri
Why use akekuri when you’re doing a single rotation
Not needed.
link + atk steroid
No need for akekuri sp
Not beating Gilb fs.
If it’s just buffs, the three used are all better than akekuri
so ig wulf isn't needed but then so is akekuri lol
pure speedrun delusion
very close to oneshotting rhodagn in the first phase, avy still isn't pot5 though so im missing that 1.15 multiplier , pot 0 jet and lv4 atk% on essence
on a higher hp version of rhodagn what would the team look like
Bro is locked the fuck in
Whatever you were doing since.
before i start to artifice my gear im just wondering if heat work + tide fall on laevatin is her bis
lock tf in
what's the correct team order for laevatain?
or does it not matter
the combo skills trigger in sequence, right?
Doesn't matter.
It only matters if multiple combos has the same trigger.
In Lae team they don't.

I had that too until I realized I could tank/dodge his wall attack lol
He Chen solo.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
maybe lucky crits
Or maybe you dodged less
I assume you just hit more in the stagger duration
my dodges have little variance because i route for SP
might be flamethrower section?
i have a very specific rot for stagger window
since i need to pump exact dmg into rhod during that time
reviewing footage, i mess up a decent amount too
i cancel animations too early a lot
does physical team with lifeng/pog or electric team with avy/gilberta do more damage?
I think Phys does? but I'm pretty sure you can trim with both teams
what do you mean more damage
burst? sustained dps? investment levels?
potentials? weapons?
The loading time counts towards the timer
Perchance you’ve loaded faster, from the same location and doing it second time
damn my trimmed runs gated by SSD load times
Insanely unfair
chat how do u get ult juice
oh i see
😭 saying this about a 100% sp postive full uptime debuffer i lowkey dont get most of na
Where did full uptime come from
300% ult eff build

idk if that person represents most of na tho
question, should i m3 all these 4 before investing on anything else or is stopping on the medium or high one fine?
laev btw
So no full uptime
so 15s downtime for the debuff ig
like not full uptime but basically every cycle youd need it
This is what I had assumed
That’s not a full uptime debuff tho
yep
definitely not basic atk
Only 2, unless you grew unhealthy obsession wih her.

and combo skill does bring it down to 9seconds at m3 im pretty sure but its not the most worth
laev ult/skill > ake ult > ardelia skill > pog skill/ult m1 > the image recommended m3 > the rest
is thatt a good priority?
wait what ur talking about 2 diff teams entirely
just want to be prepared for the supposed abyss
fire
Laev is full heat
Prob just general prio but ugh
pog is for physical team
i dont know much about physical team tbh but if pog is only being used for SP then his damage multis wouldnt matter
so it depends on the build
@drifting quest since u seem to be answering a lot of number questions
Ake only needs ult leveled.
yeah her damage contrib is low
m1 on battle skill/ult for pog increases sp generated
aren't Pog's SP gains fixed?
ake just needs ult levels
adelia skill only yea unless u need more healing etc
m1 increases it by a bit
M1 increases it by 33%
why did someone recommend combo to me then?
no, scales with level
Crowns increase some fixed gains, just like m1 ult and skill does for Pog
I see
70 85 on skill
37.5 to 50 on ult
makes sense
Pretty good amount
Hey is this the best rot for Chen/End/Pog/Lifeng?
After 4 stacks pog consume, I go Lifeng Skill, Ult
Chen combo, Lifeng combo, Endmin combo
Chen ulti, Endmin ulti, Endmin skill
wish I wasn't held back by tcreds, I have 27 crowns collecting dust atm 🥀
so, is this a good priority now or nah?
hmm idk
fail
laeva comp yea looks good
how do buff effects work in this situation: I have 2 characters with Eternal Xiranite set, let's say the first character has 5 seconds of the buff left and I activate the set on 2nd character, do I have 15 seconds of the buff or 5 seconds?
alr, thanks
And what’s the link buff amount again?
Is it scaled with arts intensity or smth?
Fixed.
Wait link.
Skill damage increases by 30/45/60/75%
Ultimate damage increases by 20/30/40/50%
What are the breakpoints?
Link stacks.
Do you know if this is good or nah?
Do you guys think 48k xiranite components is a good enough stockpile or can I transfer to valley and keep producing
Just unplug then re plug when you need more.
The way my setup is I have to tear down and rebuild to swap production lines but it's all blue printed so it's quick
I went full component when I started artificing cause I needed it fast
And just let it run for 5 days
Now I have 44k
But 0 bills
I think ill hit 48k and then swap back to batteries and syringes
i mean, just make more when you need it no? more wuling updates = more production capacity in the future
Finally 
what's the artifice prio on yvonne?
Welcome to the club
damn...
also i just found a clip which has both lr and yvonne in a team
Umbral in 2 days chat
I also run last rite because she has cheap infliction application
Pretty please 🙏
I mean, "best" is a pretty subjective word.
I personally don't always consume 4 stacks.
You know I’m saying the dmg stuff
I also don't like relying on ult for things.
Dmg goes boom
Because it won't always be up.
ok I'm finally
more or less done with everything
other than the rotational graphics
Ofc, I’m asking about a stagger window here
At boss
if I can get that done tmw the deed is done
But if you want the "max damage possible" with Crush, and don't care about factors such as how long you took to set it up, then yeah - consume 4 stacks with Pog for breach, then build 4 stacks of Vuln again (with or without Lifeng ult), and then Crush with Link and Endmin crystal.
Does link buff crush huh?
I was literally reading as you update it.
Yes but the buff is tiny.
I thought it’s a separate reaction
The link buff doesn't get applied to the actual "Crush" damage.
Yes
iana do you know wth is BIS for p5p5 laev
Why do you suggest it then
uhhh
Because you're trying to go for the "max damage possible".
12th
So you’re saying 2k from endmin skill is more than 50k from Chen or what
There's actually something else you can do, to get even higher damage.
with p4 ult reduction you get the ult in the same cycle anyway
I use charge set myself
No. I'm just looking from Crush perspective.
It’s not getting buffed from link
there is also 3x crit and 1 slab which is theoretically good for 5+5 but in practice uhhhhhh
I dont know man
I’m asking not about some single “big hit”, but about the most damage my whole team can do during the stagger window
I'm talking about all the numbers that come out when you Crush put together.
Oh.
Then I would probably use link on Endmin ult.
Haven't tested it compared to Chen though.
Crash is nothing compared to the whole team’s damage
I did make this set myself and it's alright, I can kinda see the case for it
I mean if you’re not having like 3 supports alongside endmin
But then you’re not stacking phys status
Hello chat. Any ember glazing today? Or physical glazing in general
(panda does not count penguin supremacy)
Ember glazing? 👀
i got it, just need to crit on nuke
the soggiest throat kinda of glazing, yes
double slab propaganda is real
lets also glaze endmin harder than all of the gacha characters do in the story too
double slab at 0+1 is only good if you are insanely handless
is there any way to check what damage multipliers do effects like electrification, corrosion and breach have and how much damage stuff like arts burst does? if it's not documented in game is there any convenient guide for that?
Here's one thing to consider as well, which makes this topic even more tricky when you're considering what the best "rotation" is - Endmin's crystal gives you an attack buff when you break it. It lasts for 15 seconds. If you break the crystal prior to stun, then manage to still have the buff up when the next crystal breaks (with ult or crush), you get a huge damage boost (about 20%).
one misconception people have about hot works is that the focus(and what makes it good) is enhanced skill during ult
that isn't quite true
But the timing is really strict.
if you simply have good uptime on the 50% elem buff from the set
it will 100% be better than 2x slab
even if you do only one enhanced skill in ult
And you have to weigh this against not having full vuln stacks when you go into stun, etc.
Glaze Endmin, slander Chen. Such is Endfield 
What I do so far during stun is the stun normal attack, into Endmin ult, then Lifeng ult, Chen ult, Crush, Lifeng skill, Chen Combo, Endmin Combo, Lifeng Combo, another Crush. You can fit all that into stun window.
I’m unsure about the uptime, endmin combo cd is 16 seconds
Said atk buff is also halved towards the other teammates
On the other side, until I break it, enemies receive +20% incoming phys damage
I'd repost but then itd be spam and annoy all the nerds number crunching in here the same exact rot they number crunched 8 hours ago
realistically I think that if someone is playing properly in this game
where you will never have full uptime
That's why I'm trying not to send it too much lol
2x slab is never going to be actually better
because the game doesnt have fights that are dummies that stand still and measure your damage
I have hot works fully built so it's hard to commit to another build rn just holding onto catylysts ig
just use that then
Why does one spend endmin ult so early into the rot, w/out the phys from lifeng skill and 50% dmg bonus from sig
laev BIS just gets switched up every other day 
it's not that it changes
it's that someone suggests something
and then some people are convinced by it
and go to argue for it
propaganda...
is there a reason why gilberta isnt recommended for last rite?
Oops. 😋

I did an oopsie.
Forgot to say my Lifeng is C1.
So yeah I guess it would be different.
Feels crafting vibes over actually measuring data hmmm

Endmin ult is still not getting said 50% dmg from sig and not into the phys sus from lifeng skill
Because Edmin ult damage when you break crystal is huge, better than the extra hit with Lifeng's ult.
But you start with it though
or if the player really is just like a glassy eyed automaton
Ult gain Laevatain "feels" the best to me in terms of gameplay & flow. It actually being the best from a mathematical standpoint though is just dependant on your agenda & the content you're facing. 
and cant even activate +50% on hot work
Yes. Why wouldn't I?
Actually maybe I should just show.
Maybe it'll make sense.
Yeah please show
i think umbral should help lay things out
I mean no energy start
it's just charge set, right
there isnt anything else to say
prolly...
idk how Physical can survive Umbral if you're skissue since no consumables allowed
Ardelia rise
6 runs still no crit
and its 1 ginseng per 2 runs
there's also like what a poison floor
I guess time to choose Ember from the selector

jk I'm just gonna Laevatain it
you're P4 run anything and you'll clear trust
you need tide chest so yes
Bro what's the other gacha with audio in the background lmao
I mean yeah...
I dunno why but whenever I record Endfield, it makes these funny noises. 😂
I think it's hilarious.
It's so funny. LMAO
You on PC or PS5?
PC.
Dude that's so bizarre lmao
BASE BOOSTED ENDFIELD BANGGG
The audio of when Rhodagn is shooting out flames sounds like he's farting.

It sounds like I'm hitting with toy hammers or something.
I mean a lot of it is just very un-rigorous mathematics
and weird assumptions
it's not like anyone is just
saying shit
and people are believin them en masse
they are at least showing some sort of calculation
ult set I'm like half through artificing
Wdym
W mod snipe
fr
I saw that.
okay gilb p3 might let you achieve some funny breakpoints
god i need like 1000 more artificing cores
jesus christ
Main issue is how it's kinda hard to make the results replicatable because it's a gacha and there is no "test dummy" or anything even remotely similar that could provide an easy way to compare data
even when we get more sky forges and can produce a lot more like we're alr hard capped by how many we can buy a week
I bought out the entire shop last week including all the limited...
Still better than farming for artifacts/relics/disks/echos in the 4 other gachas that came out before this.
I do think it would be a lot easier to figure out the best sets and so on if the game actually had a more easily digestible way of showing how the stats work together and so on
like this does look good and it's easy to be convinced by it
but it's like
it's not actually good in practice
Dmg bonus doko
I tested all 3 sets on Endmin to find out which was the best one.
Statmaxxing are so baiting.
is this double slab laev
send me 30k
Yeah.
I get it with p5p5 since dmg bonuses are hard diminishing returns
yeah
really? dont rots feel too slow with 2 slab
Has anyone done the calcs on how big an uplift Gilberta's weapon is for team damage yet? I'm kinda curious how much arts damage dealt is need to equal 1%ATK uplift. I know it'll be team dependent but would still like a general idea.
you get like 2% damage bonus and lose all the upsides of the desirable damage distribution that hot works has for this game
you have p5
you dont need ult gain
to ult in 2 cycles
I'll prolly just keep artificing ult set and even if I don't need I can use on akekuri
wouldnt you prefer to have 1 cycle rots still while also having 1 slab
or am i forgoring how much charge gloves give at max artifice
you cant
you miss it just barely
and and and
if you wanted to be mathematically correct at p5
wait srs
oh my god is crit laev actually not a meme
I mean it's rng no? Like if you land crits on the big hits better dmg miss a lot of them and wrose
yeah that's why it's still kind of a meme
because there is no enemy
that is just going to stand there for 5 mins
testing your dps
test dummy when LOL
dummy would ruin this game
Why ruin?
Impractical.
genshin actually has a test dummy now
there would be no fun anymore
As if people aren't going into Rhodagn to throw out their combo before reseting.
because ucg
theres marble phase2 but only for finisher nukes
And by reseting, I mean exiting out into a loading screen, then going back in after another loading screen. 
oh no wait they did change the rounding on obt
Btw do you know chen’s not consuming endmin’s crystals?
hang on
You may use her ult prior the endmin’s
it might be fine now
To gain the dmg buff
You want endmin ult to consume it.
Of course
And Chen does not consume it
So you use one in between endmin’s combo and ult
nvm it isnt gg
I prefer this over artifact rng tbh
It only checks at first hit.
even if you rounded up every time
The way AK handles it is how mmos like Tera handled it
you would be 0.3% short
Still rough but yaknow
and I dont think the rounding changes fix it
I mean this game
is actually very similar to a mmo
in a bunch of ways
oh my god bruh
coop when
fr
endfield raid dungeons
ok so the thing is
There's actually a lot of stuff I need to test before I'm able to talk about this. Stuff like... Chen ult with 2 Vuln stacks compared to 3 or 4. Chen ult with and without Link. Chen ult damage with Endmin crystal compared to Edmin ult damage from breaking crystal, etc. There's a lot of variables, I can't say what's better yet.
the next fire team member that releases
is probably also going to change the lae gear
there's SP? hot works to the moon
there's a lot of dmg%? slab might become better
so everyone's shit is still in flux
it's not just physical
Perk of pot 0 plebs.
Ember SOLO 1:59 Rhodagn
truthnuke
crit support so crit laev becomes real and true
Also just next wuling update possibly adding another 5 sets because why not
just free 50% cc 50% cd for 20s on ult
i can be trusted
this wont make the game boring and unfun
nahhhh
i cannot wait for us to get more basic hh pulls man
im so close to p3 lifeng
i can finally have funny numbers
I might be able to have the new phys page done tomorrow
depending on how far I get with the rotation graphics
I have one of them done and Im pretty happy
qq - if i onfield chen instead of endmin, i noticed she can cancel out of her attack before final strike after the 1st of two hits and directly fs instead, is that optimal? she never leaves the ground and avoids doing that air attack, but idk how much that hit does of her attack chain or anything
you want to cancel both a4 and a5 on chen yes
approx 0.53s gain from it if done perfectly
it's good
what about energy gen? is that affected by skipping a hit?
no
ok thx
energy gain from anything that isnt a character mechanic, team skill or combo is 0
this was my roto two days ago, when I tested lifeng’s nuke ulti
No link buff, cause I used it to hit 100k with lifeng’s ult
Now (especially once I crowned Chen) lifeng’s ulti feels nothing compared to her damage, so I’m looking for a way to make a new roto, feeding a link straight to Chen
Soz for the mobile potato graphics, will be able to re-record from pc only tomorrow
I still need like
brainrot memes
I can put on the side of the mandatory reading part
send them to me
i still havent decided what to use crowns on yet (not that I have the tcreds anyway), but yea
I use pan but I can feed a link to both lifeng at the beginning and another at the end to chen ult
lower than i thought
if only combo doesnt vanish when cutscenes pop
subway surfer gameplay
I will do some test to see what the difference is.
yeah in that spirit
but an actual gif or something
would brick the sheet
cause it's google sheets
think laev finisher was 3.2m
will main stat enjoyers
I mean probably not much, your Chen seemed hella weak compared to your gigachad Endmin
She had level 60 weapon in that video. But I don't just look at the numbers.
it would be nice read something about the effect of ult charge rate more in detail like when you'd get ults assuming u start with 0 using various threshholds
if you're bored xd
You have to look at the effects, before and after buffs, etc.
I mean it's
Sure thing
6.5 per team skill, 10 per combo
and that's just kind of it
you see how many combo you do
Big pp endmin tho
how many skills
and you just do basic maths
and you work off that number
if you mean like startup timeline for 0 ult
that's a lot of work and I cant be fucked to do it
even if I do have the knowledge
got all the trim medals with this comp]
If anyone's interested, here's the trimmed Chen solo Rhodagn run. I made a couple of minor mistakes but I can finally rest now. also ripped apart the video compression to fit it into discord's size restrictions
rip cbt det unit
Insane
hear me out
perlica ganna betray us
she's only nice because she cant steal the authority over originum from us rn
how you may ask
she'd just steal the little stone we got at the start of the game
proof ?
this
i said it first
Does this mean we're getting Umbral Monument this week? 
yes
why do you think theyd make it a challenge and it not be on the week it is even
Umbral Monument is gonna be harder than getting 3rd boss trimmed?
no
no
yea
Because I haven't artificed my gear yet. LOL
Is Arthertech stronger than a swordmancer?
In a full team
for solo I prefer it but you probably want swordmancer/bone in a real team
Considering the stun
change trim conditions 
It's oro farm stage ofc it's not gonna be trimmed hard.
you 100% can do umbral
arts intensity is good because i have to squeeze out damage during non stagger a lot
Wasn't Umbral AoE focused in beta, I hope it is this time. I'll absolutely wreck it. 
bonecrusher chen is really fake
i still considered stagger sets but i don't have rapid ascent 
Going for the trims once my team is leveled raah 
i don't really know because my phys team is like barely operational
because all of my resources were sent straight to chen
i just have phys team to farm meat lmao
chen can very often get away with 4x swordmancer
and there's no reason to not go for that
Swordmaxxing.
there's no reason to go cr bonecrusher kit either
because if you have rapid ascent
you should actually be using slab if you dont need energy
lmao
I dunno I feel like it's still a trap but I guess I have no actual evidence to back that up
I did some onfield test with different sets and slab felt like a meme (in solo)
I'm funneling energy to LF so she sits on 0% ult gain and bone kit.
is swordmancer also the go to when she isnt the on field op? wanted to use her on a team but dunno if i overlooked smth for a better chen
yeah at 90/90 all 4 members
1 slab for p1+ ascent
looks to be mathematically correct
which is very funny
more than anything else
what's max artificed slab
aethertech is also a really funny set
it's like in an eigenstate
of being fucking awesome
and being not that good
at all times
I assure you that on (solo) Chen it's pretty insane
I wonder if Umbral gonna be as easy in cbt2
I think we'll get proper boss endgame in 1.1 trust
ooh they got the chen solo down to 93s
But like, other than p5 Da Pan does she has the luxury of overflow vuln stack for the passive.

anyone know if the difference between gilberta sig and the weapon in the freemium battle pass is substantial or kinda whatever?
is that on bilibili? might have to look at that
man the new chen ep
it's so good
【陈千语单人 93S镀层罗丹】 https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1KLcTzJEgc
that's that shit man
any guides on proper artificing, idk which stats to focus on first
oh shit the electric players are looking at a sub 9s rhodan kill now
AHAH
it's so unserious
aren't swordmancer and that one identical in everything after checking
theyre identical yes he just uses this for fun
ah fair enough
wait does this not affect her LOL
doing some testing and realizing my numbers arent matching with gameplay possibly because im assuming this passive also affects her
damn ur gil is gonna slap
I noticed when I play Laev I'm greedy as fuck
in terms of dodging vs attacking
especially if I'm in ult
like if I play another DPS like LR or try phys I will dodge stuff
but when I'm in Laev ult I will take that hit to get my own hit in
i dont give a single fuck when im using laev because her passive is broken
it makes her so hard to kill unless youre trolling and running into triagg's phase 2 nuke or something
Does Yinglung even work? Tested on Last Rite (her Combo multi is about half her Ult multi)
And the damage is bare above half with 3 Yinglung stacks
Time to daily.
yippie

Dude you speed-runned building Gilberta faster than I did.
wide
theorybraggingchannel
oh i messed up
im using gil sig i thought i put stanza on this mf
can go higher than 2m ig
Gilberta's sig is likely better for a lot of encounters, since its trigger condition doesn't require spending her ultimate. But for boss fights I can see P5 Stanza being stronger than P0 Gilberta sig. 
referring to this
m12 refer to her talent levels? 
obviously
skill levels
yeah
[Umbral Monument] Gameplay Details
︀︀
︀︀[Umbral Monument] is a permanent, high-difficulty combat mode that features periodic content updates.
︀︀Wars, heroes, carnage, and remembrance...
︀︀
︀︀These stories are passed on via untold number of somber snapshots, and do not end even if the Monument were to be completely covered in names. Behold and witness — the scars and unbroken legends of the land.
︀︀
︀︀#ArknightsEndfield #Endfield #ZerothDirective
oh huh
@bronze plume these are different from cbt2 medals right
like it used to be the same color as the boss trims
now theyre rainbow
imo
both medals look ugly as shit
icl
all i care about is how many pulls a update umbral will actually give
No standard pulls
Its so over
Looks like we're definitely getting AoE content though so Laevatain & Gilberta can shine. Not that there was much doubt they usually tend to shill new characters in these game-modes.
umbral should be easy af
like yeah itll get boring for the 99% it already is without reseting
but like give us more shit man
no it isnt
in cbt2 you couldnt use tacticals in either mode
okay wait what the fuu
healing
Enion
yeahhhh okay youre right
how many times have you questioned me about something being right during cbt2
and ive been right and youve been wrong
i can apply lift for sig and i think lr sig buffs will last long enough until gil finishes her skill to combo
is that worth over stanza
lol
basically they made the normal mode of it easier and kept the difficulty of agony
id hope
if they made agony even easier
they really are just shilling everything to the casuals
where is the uh, rotation for this? its still under construction?
agony was alresdy REALLY easy
exactly
What is endgame? Event to farm pull currency?
nope
everything we have so far is all one-time stuff
umbral is also one-time
umbral isnt 1 time
the stages are
They've likely done a ton of tweaking since beta if people where clearing it with 1 level 80 character.
its both
the rewards for them wont reset nor do the stages themselves go away
1 time for stage rewards
We'll see when it drops
So, are we getting repeatable pull currency events in the future?
but the oroberyl challenge rewards reset each patch
absolutely no idea
i mean tbf
got it, thanks
I'll have to do etchspace salvage again
i thought etchspace was going to be made like at least a bi weekly
and that the cbt1 gamemode that gave 5k arsenal tokens ( a week btw) was going to be added on release
their game mode structure is so wack dude
but instead they decided to do absolutly fucking nothing with either
i dont know what theyre going for
L move
5k arsenal a week is too much. But the mode which give std pulls could actually be atleast once per 2 weeks
bro is carried by the words arknights on its back
5k arsenal is actually perfectly reasonable imo
im so serious
the arsenal gacha is so bad man
considering theres is literally no other way to get arsenal tokens outside of having to roll on a character banner you dont want
hey now
5k is fine if its the only way to get them
Yeah etchspace I thought would be similar to like Elysian realm divergent/sinulated universe weekly cycle




