theorycrafting

[dry kindle]

bleh

[amber vapor]

The boss fights are pretty damn linear so

[drifting quest]

i think there's trims for all 3

[summer flower]

That's support tho

[drifting quest]

i only watched a rhodagn one

[ashen scroll]

Which trim? Are we talking about current 3 trimmed medal or the new endgame ppl talk earlier?

[cinder oxide]

I could prob do triagglos now but I’m too lazy to learn the proper cycle for my team rn lmao

[amber vapor]

It also helps that you can literally just perfect dodge any of the big aoe attacks bosses do

[outer ermine]

[woeful plume]

i saw a LR solo trim on rhodagn

[amber vapor]

Triagg is a pain in the ass because of the rng with it's movement

[woeful plume]

p0

[summer flower]

Ehhh? How?

[outer ermine]

theres solo p0 lr for dorito too iirc

[summer flower]

How?

[neat snow]

Sword

[woeful plume]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-takdes-takundes-endfield-last-rite-gif-5102120420616021417

[summer flower]

And we talking on live not closed beta?

[woeful plume]

live

[outer ermine]

4mins is a lot of time bruh

[ashen scroll]

I play with stylus pen, p0 at the time ,# theorycrafting copy build and still get trim ,just mashing button pretty sure the casuals are fine

[woeful plume]

what is that bio bro 😭

[summer flower]

Rhodogan is 2

[teal escarp]

the tentacles on Aggelomoirai are too much for me

[neat snow]

With practice you can handle many tentacles

[amber vapor]

Yeah and you can literally just ignore 90% of his attacks

[cinder oxide]

That’s like nothing. Just eat some dmg food and yolo

[ashen scroll]

[amber vapor]

Every aoe is perfect dodgeable

[gritty olive]

is food must

for laev p0

[amber vapor]

No just makes life easier

[dawn patrol]

no iirc

[woeful plume]

what, solo laev?

[dawn patrol]

there're foodless trims on yt

[gritty olive]

full team with me being noob

[cinder oxide]

You just need some firebugs and ferrum bottles for the best craftable food

[woeful plume]

i foodless trimmed all 3 and im a big noob

couldnt skip any phases

at doritos im p sure u can make it so that it doesnt go off for the meteors

[summer flower]

Laev p0... So what? All skills mastered?

M3 on all skills?

[drifting quest]

no

[woeful plume]

skill and ult only

[drifting quest]

sl9

[gritty olive]

r9 skill
max weapon with forgeborn
max aritifced hear

[summer flower]

Max weapon pot?

[gritty olive]

no

[summer flower]

Ehh what?

Ohh wait

[woeful plume]

u think we are rich? 😭

[amber vapor]

I think you have to time your stagger just right but the damn thing moves so much it's hard to be consistent

[summer flower]

Max artificed gear?

[cinder oxide]

Bro just know it’s doable if you try

[summer flower]

That's like 6k+ stamina

[gritty olive]

max essence gear almost
max essence weapon

[woeful plume]

it saves a lot of time, at least 10s

[drifting quest]

you can trim with no essence, no artificing, non sig, p0, 80/80

[ashen scroll]

Rell try submit your gameplay maybe smart people here can help ( not me )

[summer flower]

Show it

[dawn patrol]

fucking how

[woeful plume]

not me either

[drifting quest]

look at any of the hundreds of youtube or bilibili videos

[woeful plume]

im just happy i could trim with charge set

so i get to be safe in overworld too

[teal escarp]

there is two types of trim?

[summer flower]

So you throwing burden of finding info onto me?

When you doing claim?

[ashen scroll]

In my case i was lacking in combo rotation i learn a bit then its kinda easy afterward

[dawn patrol]

how am i not doing enough damage when people are out here doing shit like this

am i stupid

[summer flower]

Nice, lemme thread thru swamp because you claimed something exist

[gritty olive]

bilibli clears be like
"no click, 50 second trim"

[summer flower]

What else? Should i find where your words are

[gaunt mason]

is bro salty

[grave flame]

how much rotations it assume? only 1?

[mystic halo]

da pan 60 second trim no battle skill

[drifting quest]

mouse 1 only 30s speedrun

[gritty olive]

it only assumes up until the final action

[teal escarp]

sciel one

[ashen scroll]

Tbf da pan is goated did u read his bio

[drifting quest]

guitar hero controller level 1 only trimmed marble

[summer flower]

1/20 blue weapon 1/20 30sec trim

[woeful plume]

5x stew meeting no sig trimmed marble

[amber vapor]

Ddr mat hitless trimmed marble with catcher only

[next helm]

Gonna try rodhagan, ill let you know how bad I am

[teal escarp]

https://youtu.be/G24cThcj94E?si=OCYrsfm6VEEXl7pz

[summer flower]

Only one ultimate 50 sec clear

[gritty olive]

sciel the is6 ed245 truther

[grave flame]

So I guess I need to copy paste for more rotations. Does this thing calculate energy for actions and give errors if the energy requirements aren’t met?

[ashen scroll]

Just submit your gameplay if somehow your gameplay is perfect and your gear is atleast good enough then you can tell these people are full of sht

[summer flower]

80 80 90 90

[gritty olive]

currently i havent implemented them yet

[summer flower]

Yea definetly underinvested team

[gritty olive]

has someone attempted trim clears but no movement at all

[grave flame]

So I need to calculate the energy manually to make sure the rotation works?

[gritty olive]

dodge ok
move no

[summer flower]

Man, i'm waiting for video supporting any of claims done

Before it went full sarcastic joke

[safe flax]

I need help to trim my medals by killing boss enemies in 120secs and 240 secs but I cannot do that. Are my units not leveled enough and do I need to max awaken and max ability for all 4 units or do I need dupes to use and win the fights I genuinely don't know what is the reason for not being able to win the fights.

[dawn patrol]

saw my friend do like 300k on laev ult ebs and i'm hitting 170k this shit rigged as fuck i should've pulled for p5/p5

[gritty olive]

theres energy at some of the roes, but currently it doesnt deduct energy when ulting

[ashen scroll]

Its hard because everyone here probably already max out since its already week 3 so it probably wont support their claim

[summer flower]

Man, i could build laev to specification

Then show video

[ashen scroll]

That why i sugest to post your gameplay instead so people can point out wherw youre lacking

[summer flower]

But its pain to be doing that just to prove point

[summer flower]

I don't sit with build up to specs operators

And its them claiming videos are there

Why am i to look for something that might not exist

When i didnt claim it existed in first place

[amber vapor]

Not trim but someone did Rhodogan with catcher only, no dodges or consumables

[summer flower]

Good way to get time wasted when being trolled

[ashen scroll]

Well i can only tell you based on my past experience

[summer flower]

Time spent on arguing this is fine, cause i'm here to talk

[rustic tartan]

Starting to think people might be making up claims here

[ashen scroll]

If i remember corectly my laev was pot 0 , yellow gear and the other 3 is lvl 69 my essence is like +3 +3 +2 on scorgeforge

[summer flower]

And watch people who made those claims, either they yielded to demanda and looking for sauce

Or sauce didnt exist and they went quiet

[ashen scroll]

Tbf this is theorycrafting , 90% are sweat theyre good at the game so the claim probably true

[summer flower]

Their claims are about underinvested gear

[drifting quest]

i mean a bunch of people here dont actually tc anything

thats why there's always arguments several times a day

[summer flower]

I am yet to tc, but i don't have most optimal team

[neat snow]

I'm only here to see if the math matches my vibes. I won't actually do math myself because I'm not a nerd.

[ashen scroll]

Yeah im here just to steal your build hehe

[summer flower]

I don't have that much investment done

[next helm]

Lvl 80 one was already so slow 💀

[summer flower]

Just recently i only got endmin to 90

[rustic tartan]

What do people here mean when they say "solo" here?

[ashen scroll]

Oh so its physical team?

[neat snow]

Solo means one

[summer flower]

Single operator

We don't see how invested it is

[rustic tartan]

Damn, is that like everything maxed out in every way?

[summer flower]

Nvm

Its at end

Yea look at that investment

[open hare]

As a person who started a argument about Dark souls, this is true

[rustic tartan]

Honestly I'd prefer playing solo characters if it were viable

[ashen scroll]

Like 70%

[summer flower]

At least half artifieced every piece of gear

Yea 70% looks about that

[rustic tartan]

Weapon potential?

[grave flame]

is it big?

[ashen scroll]

I mean gear part is kinda easy to achieve

[grave flame]

p0 with sig and artificed gear

[ashen scroll]

Its probably took 3 days?

[summer flower]

Huge

[unborn island]

anybody has a list of what the buff effects are ? i looked at wiki.gg but i dont think they have a list like that

[grave flame]

its not really

[summer flower]

3 and 2 masteries

All gear artificed to 70%

[rustic tartan]

What about the weapon? Just p0 90 max essence?

[summer flower]

Rest of skills to 9

[grave flame]

artificied litrally free, same as masteries

[summer flower]

Max essence

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?usp=drivesdk

[ashen scroll]

I dont really know the average player but to me the investment looks reasonable

Wait the essence maxed?

[summer flower]

How many artifice attempts it Would be?

[grave flame]

huge investement its when he have everything maxxed, at least sig and p4 char

[rustic tartan]

That gives me hope for my last rite then, just a matter of time... a long long long long time since I have absolutely no resources anymore xD

[unborn island]

[summer flower]

I'm saying its huge investments in stamina/resources

Not investment in pull

[ashen scroll]

Ana what your current team ?

[summer flower]

That's bigger than my endmin is right now

Very much bigger

[rustic tartan]

I'm currently feebly attempting to build last rites team

[summer flower]

That's more artifice attempts on single character than i had in total

[dry kindle]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Damage_calculation

they stopped being lazy

[rustic tartan]

But I'm constantly starved for credits and mats

[drifting quest]

oh hey

nice

do we know if their arts intensity mult is the right one

[unborn island]

not exactly what im looking for
like i want to see how long the buff after activating link lasts for

[rustic tartan]

I do have her essence but I am literally over a week away from being able to go back to essence farming

[gritty olive]

only for the attack iirc

[rustic tartan]

And who knows when I'll be able to upgrade gear

[dry kindle]

wut

[gritty olive]

ubless youre getting engravements form wuling, yoj cna overlap both

[rustic tartan]

Clarify?

[ashen scroll]

Take it slow tbh, i believe you dont need much investment other than just your main dps if you just want medal

[grave flame]

after i finished story and played for 2 weeks i got better investment so idk, does not seem huge, esp if its ur main dps and your other chars need minimal investment cos they dont do damage

you also get a lot of free stamina

[gritty olive]

upgrading gear for artificements only demands wuling currency

but essence emgravement sin wuling also demands wulling currenxy

[unborn island]

cause i tested it with laev, when consuming the Link buff, it adds a 20% damage dealt of my EBAs for around 7 seconds

[gritty olive]

ok im seeing whats happening here

[rustic tartan]

Yea ive been trying to sorta get her whole team at least to a decent place. Rocking fluorite with a level 1 weapon sat bad in my brain.

[gritty olive]

ult buff is not going to basic attacks since its not ult damage

youre seeing the resignore from her talent

[rustic tartan]

My LR is 80 80, maxed combo and ult

[gritty olive]

which is a 20% res ignore buff, which translates to 20% more damage vs 0 res enemies

[rustic tartan]

Working slowly towards getting her and khravendjrhsjs to 90 too

[unborn island]

ohh

i see

let me retest then, cause i couldnt see that 20% heat res pen buff under my health bar

[rustic tartan]

Etching essences uses a currency beyond other essences? I have zero memory of that

[summer flower]

Nvm its still in YT

[gritty olive]

oh it doesnt
what i mean is. if youre sifting throigh essences in wulingx you need wulinf currency for engravements

essences only est pther esdences for upgrsdes

[ocean hawk]

did u type using 1 hand currently ? like 1 hand in phone

[outer ermine]

imagine essence farming already

[ocean hawk]

its rare seeing kuratine has much typo

[gritty olive]

i am lying

[ashen scroll]

Btw essence etching doesnt require relevant stat like gears right for success chance?

[gritty olive]

lying down

[ocean hawk]

ah

[gritty olive]

[ocean hawk]

but its still rng

[rustic tartan]

Oh nah I actually have last rites essence I got a couple while farming laevs

[summer flower]

So yea, where is p0 R9 video for solo

[ocean hawk]

and has no pity like gear. It has gel pity system

[bronze plume]

hello chat

[dawn patrol]

[ocean hawk]

when u fail, u get gel

[outer ermine]

which one

[dawn patrol]

why would u lie

[midnight stirrup]

Hi Beef

Why did they only release one new day of the event, instead of 2

Weirdge

[summer flower]

It Has bar

[rustic tartan]

For my gear though I've just been letting my bills build up in wuling. It's only been a few days since I hit endgame factory

[summer flower]

But Man, going to end of bar

Is so painful

That's like 40 or 50

[next helm]

if you start with full ult etc, is it important to remove ardelias corrosion?

[midnight stirrup]

Removing her corrosion with her skill applies rthe debuff

Unless u mean something else

[ocean hawk]

timegated content that can be finished (each part) in just a minute

we need more content

[next helm]

Sorry should have phrased it different

is it more important to get the debuff up than get faster laev stacks

[lime nacelle]

How does stacking buffs from consumables work? Am I allowed to have a damage reduction buff and an attack boost buff at the same time?

[rustic tartan]

Removing corrosion with her skill is essential

[summer flower]

Nope, only one food

[rustic tartan]

It buffs pretty much all the major damage coming out of laev

[summer flower]

Instant effect ones for ultimate energy you can chug

[outer ermine]

u can give all 4 ops food buffs and thats abt it

[rustic tartan]

The opening part of the rotation does both those things at the same time

[midnight stirrup]

I atleast expected them to release day 3 AND 4. Thats what im used to.

But its fine ig, 4 is tomorrow.

Ill max bp tomorrow

[rustic tartan]

You want ardes debuff to be active prior to laevs cs and bs. And obviously you keep the debuff up 100% of the time

[outer ermine]

whel

[slow island]

Hello. How good are Yvonne pot ? I got p2 across Gil and Lae banner, and debating if i should stop there or not

[midnight stirrup]

Hifumi I still got no LR essence

[midnight stirrup]

Cant tell if this is really lucky or really unlucky

[outer ermine]

r u farming in valley i can share my towers there if u remind me when i wake up

[rustic tartan]

Pretty sure all potentials are a waste of money in this game

[midnight stirrup]

P1 is really good, P2 is mid.

P5 is good but not worth going for.

[ashen scroll]

No! You get art for your base at pot 6

[rustic tartan]

Yea besides the art obv but

[midnight stirrup]

Farming what?

The essences?

[rustic tartan]

Like the artists arent getting a cut of my money so its just yea..

[midnight stirrup]

Im fine killing them with Gilb relatively quick. Im just able to do like 3-4 tickets a day rn

[ashen scroll]

[midnight stirrup]

Dont make enough in Wuling yet cause im using stocks for the artificing.

[ashen scroll]

And namecard too

[next helm]

Bad at the game

[midnight stirrup]

Says who

Did they ever confirm this

[rustic tartan]

Wish id gotten laev potential rather than gils since I cant make gil work with who ive got

[next helm]

[rustic tartan]

I'm working off how the world typically works.

[midnight stirrup]

So youre making assumptins

[ashen scroll]

Almost there

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1jpFLzXEah
diabolic crit fishing

[next helm]

People do this with one unit

[rustic tartan]

If you think the artists are making royalties off of pulls, I have a bridge to sell you

[midnight stirrup]

Youll get there

[frozen tide]

any money spent on a gacha can be seen as a waste of money

[midnight stirrup]

Hes not that hard

[next helm]

I wonder how much P5 wulf would shave of that try

[midnight stirrup]

It doesnt matter what you think happens behind the scenes. You dont know, so dont treat it as fact lmao

Thats how missinformation is created

[rustic tartan]

I operate in reality

[frozen tide]

so tuff

shivers

[midnight stirrup]

Your reality is making assumptions

[ashen scroll]

Cmon now its not that serious

[midnight stirrup]

Thats not reality bruh

[rustic tartan]

I would bet my life the artists got a flat fee and do not receive royalties per pull.

[frozen tide]

🥶

[ashen scroll]

[rustic tartan]

That you'd argue otherwise is honestly ridiculous

[summer flower]

Man, maybe artist is more likely to keep employment if char does well

[frozen tide]

nails

[midnight stirrup]

I'm not argueing its not possible

[summer flower]

But we don't know

[midnight stirrup]

Im argueing you treating your assumptions as facts

You dont know, so dont treat it like that

[rustic tartan]

I do know how these things work

[midnight stirrup]

Oh my days this guy

[summer flower]

Do we even know if they are employed or just doing this as order

[midnight stirrup]

No

Thats my whole point

[summer flower]

If they are internal or external

Yea

So why even talk on topic

[frozen tide]

ive heard claims its fanart hg got permission to use

[midnight stirrup]

"I think and therefore its true!"

[frozen tide]

which would be kinda cool in a way

[ashen scroll]

[summer flower]

Where such claims?

[frozen tide]

from my friends

[slow island]

I pulled a lot so that's fair

[frozen tide]

nowhere concrete

[midnight stirrup]

How many pulls total? Or you dont know

[summer flower]

Very reliable source (sarcasm)

Okay, so if its fan art

Then you need to look for fanart from before it was added in game

Good luck, i ain't looking

[slow island]

Thanks, i have read prydwen calcs and seen that's a 12% diff from P2 but i learned to take their calcs with a grain of salt

[rustic tartan]

You have a child's notion on how these matters work if you actually believe there's even a minute chance the people who submitted fan art for the potential unlocks are getting paid based on how many people pull dupes.

[midnight stirrup]

Brother

Respectfully

How are you not getting the point im trying to make, and keep driving past it

My point was never its not possible

[slow island]

Around 1000 on chartered banner, P5 Lae and Gil, and some pull for arsenal token for P5 Lae weapon

[midnight stirrup]

Im saying you cant say ur assumptions are facts

When you dont have concrete proof

Use ur brain

[rustic tartan]

Are you brain dead?

[midnight stirrup]

You would know

[ashen scroll]

This is so silly

[rustic tartan]

I said

they are not receiving royalty off of pulls

[summer flower]

I didnt notice repeating name for gallery artists yet

[dry kindle]

[midnight stirrup]

Whatever my guy

Youre not listening, so im not proceeding this convo

[slow island]

Artist on gacha games are commissionned pretty sure they do not have any rights on the character itself or the artwork

[dawn patrol]

i should've pulled for p5 laev instead of paying rent

[rustic tartan]

And you respond by claiming some schizophrenic nonsense about how "no one can possibly know that"

[summer flower]

They might be external

[swift onyx]

They dont get money for each "pull" players do
They use the same method as og arknights
Pay the artist for the art/skin and thats where it ends

[grave flame]

@summer flower https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xx6cBRExj/

i guess this one kinda on lower end

[ashen scroll]

If it me i would wait yvo weapon banner if i got lucky on those then i would go for more pot

[summer flower]

Which would make sense for place where you want varried styles

[summer flower]

Okay, now question

[slow island]

The artist probably sell all his right on the art in the process

Otherwise they should reward them when they use it for promo etc, not just pull.

[next helm]

Someone have a vid of laev wulf ake ardelia kill on rodh, without p5 wulf

[ashen scroll]

Snowshine so hot

[summer flower]

Is that artist that's paid allowed to share? Or even paid to share

[midnight stirrup]

Why are you so mad lmao

[summer flower]

Or is that just fan art then requested

[midnight stirrup]

[rustic tartan]

Yes, the reality is, they got flat fees

[ashen scroll]

What p5 wulf even do

[dry kindle]

Combo cd reset on ult

[dawn patrol]

reset his cs cd when he ults

[ashen scroll]

[rustic tartan]

I'm only deriding your lack of mental development. That's not mad, it's mean.

[swift onyx]

April noway

[midnight stirrup]

Yea youre mad

LMAO

[ashen scroll]

Who is you !

[midnight stirrup]

Imagine taking this so serious to resort to personal attacks

And you call me immature

PFFTT

[mortal wolf]

Does Fluorite not have a team yet

[rustic tartan]

You are, yes.

[unborn island]

yeah retested, it still consumes the link buff but doesnt add anything onto her Battleskill or EBAs. sad but ill keep it noted to NOT use akekuri ult before leav ult

[swift onyx]

Oh
Wrong april from og ako discord

[rustic tartan]

You made that clear by your ridiculous lack of logical faculties

[midnight stirrup]

You mad heated over me saying you cant claim something as fact when you dont have concrete proof

[ashen scroll]

Im from ako dc

[frozen tide]

all he says on that tweet is that he draw those to celebrate snowshine and xaihi and he is the credited author for the illustrations but the date being feb 3 is interesting

[midnight stirrup]

That's basic human knowledge

You were taught this in middle school

[rustic tartan]

The artists are not receiving royalties.

[midnight stirrup]

You getting this pissed over that only shows your immaturity king, not mine

[swift onyx]

Team around her not really
U can find some funky "flourite main dps" vids out there tho

[ashen scroll]

Are you the fred with cat pfp or? Its been long time i cant remember

[summer flower]

I dont go to X so i cannot scour his profile

[next helm]

How is there drama again

[rustic tartan]

Off of gacha pulls, actually lmao

[next helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902105645686325258/1307986031726956585/ebf4eecc7d3b846a6f3422378d7365bf.gif

[swift onyx]

Then are u the smart sarcastic april that sometimes shows up in help

[next helm]

Here beans

[mortal wolf]

Or at least a team she can be in? Or is it because Gilberta and Ardelia are better options / No Nature DPS

[ashen scroll]

[frozen tide]

he does illustration as a job and a hobby takes commisions and sells guides to illustrations

[summer flower]

Its not one artist for whole operator p images

[frozen tide]

yeah ik

it was just an example i found

[swift onyx]

Flourite is seen in LR teams

[summer flower]

They probably got job to make ilduatration with source for character

[midnight stirrup]

Its funny engaging with people pissed off

But u right we should drop

mb

[swift onyx]

So, u can use her there

[summer flower]

And due to this being game

They probably got to see ingame character

[rustic tartan]

The potential arts I wouldnt be surprised were the results of a fab art contest

[dawn patrol]

how many days until i trim marble take your bets

[summer flower]

Contest?

[frozen tide]

if we do assume they are freelancers who got hired to make certain illustrations there is nothing wrong and rather normal that they wouldnt get a percent from sales

[ashen scroll]

Idk the smart part but i do make fun ppl on help sometimes lmao

[summer flower]

More like agency

[rustic tartan]

Theres no drama here, im just pointing out idiocy where I see it.

[midnight stirrup]

You havent already, slowge

[dawn patrol]

yeah i'm bad at the game and also not willing to spend my life savings on the game

so

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/listening-brainrot-yusufbequit-jK6CfpSWzUga3DZG2R

[midnight stirrup]

What team you using

You dont need to whale to trim marble

[rare zodiac]

Are we tc how to pointlessly arguing again?

[summer flower]

I think all potentials being different Illustrator was deliberate decision

[ashen scroll]

If ita not your money then youre still f2p, free credit card might lying around somewhere

[rustic tartan]

Yea not uncommon for developers of any given media to open up contests for fanart/multimedia getting included in an upcoming project.

[next helm]

Didn't you post a vid of you doing trimmed medal, how are you bad

[summer flower]

Yea but have we Heard of contest?

[dawn patrol]

laev but i kinda suck ass at the game apparently

[rare zodiac]

Sound like a crime

[midnight stirrup]

If its a LR run, that was me

[rustic tartan]

No nor has anyone suggested that

[frozen tide]

seeing as how there are so many artists that drew different pot arts i think its reasonable to assume that atleast not all of them are full time employees

[grave flame]

you in theorycraft channel btw

[midnight stirrup]

Oh, cant give advice on Laev soz

[rustic tartan]

Just that it wouldn't surprise

[summer flower]

Ffs

[dawn patrol]

i do have a lr but she's not built LOL

[summer flower]

I doubt they are full time, maybe they are full time under different company they are working with

[midnight stirrup]

I figured. But yea, LR can clear pretty easily

[ashen scroll]

I cant believe the artist talk are still goinf

[midnight stirrup]

ST character and all

[frozen tide]

true

[midnight stirrup]

You should be able to clear with Laev tho

Maybe someone can make a vid on it

[summer flower]

Can't stand non math theocrafting? :D

[frozen tide]

marble trim is pretty tough

if p0 with no sig youll have to max out what you can and get the optimal rot down

[dawn patrol]

laev is supposed to be ezpz too but ig i'm just bad

[midnight stirrup]

Just gotta get through that first phase quick

[ashen scroll]

Its not something i can steal >:)

[midnight stirrup]

Second phase is easy

[summer flower]

Pretty sure art is stealable

[midnight stirrup]

Although, LR can stunlock quite a bit

[grave flame]

what marble require?

[rustic tartan]

It wouldn't have gone anywhere but there's no way to expect someone like him here

[midnight stirrup]

So maybe im spoiled

[rare zodiac]

It doesn’t scratch the itch for more numbers that i have

[next helm]

I am replying to someone else thats not you isn't it ?

[midnight stirrup]

Bro still mad and I havent replied to him in 5 minutes

Living rent free in his head

[summer flower]

Theorycraft their payment amount

[daring dove]

Is this the fidget spinner boss?

[midnight stirrup]

Im aware, im saying you mightve mistaken it for mine

Reading comprehension Riko

[dawn patrol]

i did in fact post a vid of me getting dorito trim

[midnight stirrup]

No marble

[dawn patrol]

i don't have marble trim though

[frozen tide]

p0 no sig is possible but I would guess your laev would have to be maxxed(for that pot and weap) and supps built decently

90/90 full artificing and essencing

[ashen scroll]

Not something i would steal *

[frozen tide]

get supps to soft caps of investment

[grave flame]

i mean how much time

[frozen tide]

hmm lemme search up

https://youtu.be/EpjTy3QRhZo?si=yWsCE_lqtNbEmgOm

[grave flame]

if 2 min then you dont need much invest, just good rotation

[frozen tide]

this guy cleared in about 2:20

but he has sig

you get like 240 for marble right

or is it 180

[dawn patrol]

240

[next helm]

Didn't realise you could dodge his mega explosion

I half expected it to be undodgable

[dawn patrol]

2:20 is fucking insane

[frozen tide]

yeah 240 should be doable p0 no sig decently built laev

[midnight stirrup]

4 minutes yeah

[dawn patrol]

my leav is pretty good (i think) so is it a skill issue

[midnight stirrup]

Which mega explosion

Marble or fat guy?

[dawn patrol]

rhodagn i assume

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

[next helm]

fat guy

[frozen tide]

tough

[ashen scroll]

Both are dodgeable

[midnight stirrup]

Yea you can, personally havent found the queue tho

[next helm]

But like

he places walls and everything

[midnight stirrup]

Like how do you even know the indicator to dodge

[next helm]

why can you dodge that move

[midnight stirrup]

🤷‍♂️

[grave flame]

here i posted trims with kinda low invested endmin, so i think laev can do better

[dawn patrol]

you remember the animation LOL

[daring dove]

Both LR & Laevatain should have no issues clearing the bosses. Although the Fidget spinner is a bit of a sore spot for Laevatain. Screw that guy.

[ashen scroll]

Rhodagn u dodge twice tho

[midnight stirrup]

What animation tho

I dont know where ur supposed to dodge during that

[dawn patrol]

he like, screams and shit and you dodge in the middle of it kinda idk i'm bad at explaining

[midnight stirrup]

Np

[ashen scroll]

After the wall up he did some kind of pose then u dodge after 0.5s u dodge again... roughly

[midnight stirrup]

I got the trim already hiding behind the walls so its okak

Maybe if he gets added to endgame ill teach myself

[midnight stirrup]

Souka

@outer ermine Whats ur record time on Marble with LR

I got 3:20 ish

[ashen scroll]

But if u fail dodge the first dont dodge the second oneimmediately , they got like delay

[rare zodiac]

If you already reached energy efficiency breakpoint would you prefer 2% more energy efficiency or 1000 hp?

[midnight stirrup]

Probably the HP no

[ashen scroll]

Person to person i think

I probably go for the 2%

[frozen tide]

ive been too scared to try marble after i struggled on dorito trim even tho i got him

his invinc transitions scarred me

[ashen scroll]

For marble i just learn how to clean the tentacle mob quickly after that she kinda straightforward

[next helm]

💀

[ashen scroll]

Time for upgrade !

[frozen tide]

what char do you even use

[next helm]

Laev

But I suck

0 artificing done tho

[ashen scroll]

Did u farm initial energy first before challenge it?

[next helm]

And m1 bs and ult so maybe I just upgrade

Yeah I have all 4 ults

[rare zodiac]

Am i mad? Have I gone crazy from all this theorycrafting?

[vestal sinew]

does anyone have calcs on which weapon is best for pog? i keep seeing his sig is bis but some other guides say thermite cutter is bis

[midnight stirrup]

Like where he fleis up

Bruh my backspace key is nt wrking

wth

[next helm]

I wanna upgrade gear but the fact that you need to max ult efficiency on that set spooks me

[midnight stirrup]

His bis is fortmaker

at R5

I dont have the calcs but they calced it in here like last week

[vestal sinew]

that sounds a bit weird

[dawn patrol]

just run hot work atp

[midnight stirrup]

Its bc he wants the art intensity or something

idr exactly

look up fortmaker in this chat and you should find the convo between the tcers

[midnight stirrup]

Im just coming up with ideas cause I dont use laev

But have u tried going in with her ult to kill the tentacles

to then have ult up again for 2nd phase

[sour gazelle]

2nd stat ult charge and 3rd stat art means better debuffs

[next helm]

This is on the fat guy

[midnight stirrup]

Oh mb

You could record ur fight and people can give pointers

if u have that option

[dawn patrol]

for rhodagn you kinda legit just have to do morr damage

or that yeah so you can fix your rotation

[ashen scroll]

Yeah he is a sandbag

[midnight stirrup]

I only know LR

and she makes all three of them bend over

so

[ashen scroll]

I watched the lightning team clear

Theyre are so cool lmao

[dawn patrol]

insane how avywenna does more damage than my laev

[ashen scroll]

I mean laev is alot easier to use

[midnight stirrup]

Laev is unga bunga af

Id only use her for aoe content atp

[ashen scroll]

Schwing schwing but surtr

Perfect

[midnight stirrup]

Avywenna is great yeah

[dawn patrol]

i need to trim marble oh my days

[midnight stirrup]

But apparently needs a shitload of setup

Might get cooked when time crunches get more tight

[dawn patrol]

what if i just wait until i m12 max essence max artifice laev

[midnight stirrup]

Turn to the Last Rite side

Last Rite is peak

[dawn patrol]

and then i still don't get it

[ashen scroll]

My last rite is lvl 1

[midnight stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnhG3sKre6I&t=4s

My Last Rite run on Marble

[ashen scroll]

I dont like her outfit !

[midnight stirrup]

Turn to the brighter side

[vestal sinew]

checked some but none actually know or at least they seem to think based on speculation,i might be cooked on not knowing what to do,i already got pogs sig but if isnt his bis then im fine switching to something else,but if the difference isnt that big i might just stick to his sig maybe

[midnight stirrup]

Huh weird

They def calced it so u mightve overlooked

@drifting quest u here?

[drifting quest]

Yo

[midnight stirrup]

Sup bestie

T3mpu wants to know why Fort is BiS but cant find the calcs

I know yall calced it

Could you explain to him

on Pog

[drifting quest]

Fort has ult gain% and intensity
The ult gain helps reach breakpoint
Intensity increases breach effect

[midnight stirrup]

Why was this better than sig again

[drifting quest]

Dmg% diluted

[midnight stirrup]

Thanks king

[next helm]

And thermite

[drifting quest]

Depends on gear and future team but sig could come back

[midnight stirrup]

@vestal sinew Hope this helps

[vestal sinew]

is the difference beetween never rest and fortmaker big or is it like small?

[drifting quest]

Not huge, both are usable

Sig is what 85-90% of thermite

Fort prob comparable enough

Differs based on rot and all

[frozen tide]

its therm>sig>fort if same pot right

[vestal sinew]

damn a 10% diff seems a bit big to me,do u know if the difference beetween fortmaker vs therm is bigger than vs sig?

[drifting quest]

Depends on rot too much

[frozen tide]

theres no way same pot fort out does therm sig

[vestal sinew]

assuming ideal rot

[midnight stirrup]

Wasnt it assumed p5 fort

vs p1's

[twilit quail]

so for the record I only floated around the idea that fort was bis briefly

[midnight stirrup]

I think fort falls off at lower pot

[twilit quail]

early in the stages

p5 fort is a little worse than p0 thermite

in current good rotations

5-8% better than p0 sig

thermite >>>>>> everything else

[midnight stirrup]

Thermite the favonius of Arknights Endfield lmao

[frozen tide]

i picked val instead of thermite from crate gg

[next helm]

Why is deciding so hard

[frozen tide]

time to make new acc

[midnight stirrup]

Schling

Who u main

Last Rite no

[vestal sinew]

would it be a bad choice to grab a thermite cutter to replace pogs sig and buy a valiant for lifeng? or should i just stick to pogs sig and call it a day?

[midnight stirrup]

Thermite is good for multiple characters

Akehuri BiS also

Good choice overall to get

[swift onyx]

Valiant is not worth grabbing really

🤞

[next helm]

holy

[frozen tide]

yeah

[next helm]

I didn't realise how hard laevs ult scales

[midnight stirrup]

My man 🤝

[frozen tide]

i wanted to dabble in ake but no point without therm

[midnight stirrup]

If you need help with trims, lmk

[next helm]

456% on BA4 compared to my 390% rn

wtf

[ashen scroll]

I was told ake bis is the 5 star sword not thermite , am i scammed

[midnight stirrup]

Yes

[ashen scroll]

[midnight stirrup]

Thermite is peak

19% atk buff

for team

18%

[next helm]

Wtf are these numbers 💀

[swift onyx]

The 5* is her "signature"
As every 4* has a 5* signature

[midnight stirrup]

OBJ is just a stat stick on Akehuri

[swift onyx]

But thermite is just, it but better

[midnight stirrup]

bc it buffs secondary attribute = INT

[twilit quail]

with weapon that gives her stats

[midnight stirrup]

INT = more SP back

[twilit quail]

akekuri's damage goes from like

0.9%

to maybe 1.3%

🔥

big

[frozen tide]

fiya

[ashen scroll]

I guess i have to farm for thermite essence now 😠

[vestal sinew]

so general consensus is thermite better than pogs sig by around 10%

[frozen tide]

also iana

[midnight stirrup]

I missed where they said this earlier

But if shuo did

then yeah

[frozen tide]

do you think ake with link on rite ult can out do smth like ard or perlica with susc

[vestal sinew]

i see,do u think its bad to buy valiant from issue shop?

[frozen tide]

since theres alr too many sources of susc

[twilit quail]

uhh

[midnight stirrup]

Yes

Shuo did say this

[twilit quail]

I mean yeah she's been in the lineup for a while

[midnight stirrup]

bc SP gain and atk buff

[midnight stirrup]

@frozen tide this is with thermite akehuri

[ashen scroll]

What about wulfgard , what weapon he use

[midnight stirrup]

look at the amount of sp I get

[midnight stirrup]

OBJ I think

[ashen scroll]

Lets just say i have every weapon in the game

[frozen tide]

i havent had issues with sp on rhod and dorito

[swift onyx]

Cannibal for lava team

[frozen tide]

since 1 ult means phase over

but marble i cant do that

i use lr xai per ard

[midnight stirrup]

Check my vid, the sp is rly valuable there

u pretty much need it there

once u go akehuri, u dont go back to ardelia

it feels ALOT better

[ashen scroll]

[drifting quest]

Clannibal is pseudo bait right now

[ashen scroll]

Wutt

Is it clannibal or obj

[vestal sinew]

is buying valiant from issue shop a bad choice for my lifeng?

[drifting quest]

Requires p4+ laev, future vanguard w/ heat infliction and good sp gen or precise rots

[next helm]

During Ultimate: BATK SEQ 1 Multiplier, During Ultimate: BATK SEQ 2 Multiplier
What are these in Laevs battleskill?

[twilit quail]

as an aside it's kinda funny how things got flipped on da pan a bit in terms of how good the rotation feels

[drifting quest]

90% of the time for p0 laev you never use clannibal active

[twilit quail]

right now da pan team is just doing extra BS while enemy is overflowing on stacks

just to gain ult energy

and it's better than what we were doing before

[drifting quest]

[twilit quail]

it's so cringe

[ashen scroll]

So the comp is like laeva ake wulf and another vanguard to make clannibal work?

Well i got some pot on laev so its fine

[twilit quail]

AND it's also pain in the ass to stack chen sundering

this is glorpshit

[vestal sinew]

is it better to pull for laevs sig or just play it safe and buy valiant for lifeng?

[frozen tide]

is ake chill at 60/80

[midnight stirrup]

Yea

Just max her ult

gives SP back per upgrade

[frozen tide]

yeah i dontr rly wanna crown the dog

[midnight stirrup]

I dont mean crown

Up till m0

[terse furnace]

Btw Iana, what's the logic behind your calcs of Det Unit > Chiv Virtues on Xaihi? I thought atk% buffs are generally considered pretty valuable?

[ashen scroll]

If i got extra crown is it worth to m3 her ult?

For ake

[midnight stirrup]

I wouldnt bother

Its not necessary rn

[terse furnace]

If it's anything like OG AK, you should only M3 characters you really like - they're really expensive

[midnight stirrup]

Keep in mind akehuri is a 4-star

[drifting quest]

Det gives int too

[frozen tide]

i havent even tried yet so imma try marble trim with ard

if its cancer ill build ake a bit

[mystic halo]

uhhhhhh

[midnight stirrup]

Best of luck

[mystic halo]

so the thing is

[ashen scroll]

If it like OG it would be m9 XD

[mystic halo]

det unit was nerfed because of xaihi

[midnight stirrup]

wdym

[mystic halo]

and actually there might be a world where you dont use it for her anymore hang on

[terse furnace]

What was the nerf?

[mystic halo]

it went from +int to +main stat

which is

just absolutely terrible

[drifting quest]

Doesnt it have sec % on its skill line

[mystic halo]

xaihi's main is will

that wasnt changed but it's not enough

xaihi could have like 900 int in cbt

cant anymore

[drifting quest]

Should be comparable, esp with akekuri

[summer flower]

Would 900 int matter?

[frozen tide]

and what would be the alternative

[mystic halo]

yes

[drifting quest]

At equal pot

[mystic halo]

it would matter

[summer flower]

I Heard it does not

[frozen tide]

yes it scales to 1200 int i think

[drifting quest]

She can get like 700-800 rn no

[summer flower]

Yea i did some testing and it went iffy

[frozen tide]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-u4RsiCE9bMqROhvcv7DXszEM_SAJGAa?usp=drive_link

heres my testing on it

[summer flower]

So i kinda shelfed more testing

[mystic halo]

the nerf HURTS

[frozen tide]

it does scale past 400

[mystic halo]

you are missing more than 200 int

[summer flower]

Bad testing

[mystic halo]

at 90/90

[summer flower]

Int is secondary

[next helm]

Not really explained ingame, but Laevs battleskill without ult hits a few times then you do the additional attack. But in ult you do 2 attacks + additonal attack?

[summer flower]

You need to test with Second operator @mystic halo

[terse furnace]

God ty, it's been so difficult to find testing on it

[ashen scroll]

What about ice dps is yvone or LR?

[terse furnace]

But have you done testing regarding Det Unit's overall buffs vs Chivalric overall buffs?

[terse furnace]

LR, Yvonne lacks the proper Cryo inflictors to be a proper Cryo DPS

[drifting quest]

Id expect it depends on the 4th

[ashen scroll]

I kinda want to level yvone since her base growth chamber skill is good

[drifting quest]

Ake vs ard vs some third brick choice/future choice

[terse furnace]

You can still level her to E2 and not use her

[ashen scroll]

[next helm]

1368% to 1600% going from m1 to m3 thats a large increase again

[frozen tide]

shes great for growth chamber terrible out on the field

[summer flower]

O.O

[drifting quest]

I'd do the math but I'm not home on pc right now

[summer flower]

~20% relative

[next helm]

Going from m1 to m3 on bskill + ult

[midnight stirrup]

Bro im so confused

[summer flower]

And people throwing r9 m0 claims like when its such difference between M ranks

[terse furnace]

btw, I was asking about the Det Unit vs Chiv Virtues thing because Chiv Virtues gives atk%, and from my understanding that's a valuable buff to have. It also has higher uptime than Det Unit, so I was wondering about the overall value

[next helm]

very large increase wtf

[midnight stirrup]

Yesterday it was said she needs 500 to max the buff off int

[frozen tide]

by who

[midnight stirrup]

Others say she needs 1200

[summer flower]

Yea

[midnight stirrup]

Shuo iirc

[summer flower]

Yea

[terse furnace]

me cuz I thought the wording is bad

[frozen tide]

@drifting quest

[summer flower]

I did testing but kinda shelfed that

[terse furnace]

@midnight stirrup This should be enough proof that it does scale past 400

[summer flower]

Its awful when its all mobile

[midnight stirrup]

Ill check in a bit thanks

[summer flower]

@frozen tide testing is incorrect

You need non xaihi to be attacking

[frozen tide]

huh

[summer flower]

Due to int being secondary attribute

[frozen tide]

its lr attacking

with xai ult

[drifting quest]

I dont have an invested xaihi but from what ive seen it scales to 1200

[summer flower]

Ohh wait what

[drifting quest]

If someone wants to prove otherwise by all means I can look

[frozen tide]

ig xai and lr looks kinda similar?

[summer flower]

We talking xaihi ? Or LR?

[midnight stirrup]

So we can agree its 1200 after all?

[drifting quest]

Xaihi int scaling on ult

[summer flower]

I was testing Xaihi

[terse furnace]

Question btw, is this L9 on Xaihi ult?

[summer flower]

Int is secondary attribute

Hard to test

[frozen tide]

yeah and another thing frontier chest is bad

[drifting quest]

Yes

[frozen tide]

use int main stat chest

[drifting quest]

The test was of 2 different int values

[midnight stirrup]

Alright ill change later

[frozen tide]

l12/m5 p5

[summer flower]

If int is secondary

[drifting quest]

Both of which gave more int than the cap, and buffed beyond the cap
(12%)

[summer flower]

Then its going to affect attack

[drifting quest]

Why do you want attack

[frozen tide]

ill rename drive to clarify

[midnight stirrup]

Btw shuo

[drifting quest]

Xaihi isnt a dps

[terse furnace]

God damn, you had the resources for that?

[drifting quest]

🐳

[midnight stirrup]

If u run lr with akehuri do u put xaihi on xiranite

[frozen tide]

kinda

[midnight stirrup]

Or is int stacking the buff
More immportant

[summer flower]

Shuo, please chill

[drifting quest]

I havent checked xir vs intmaxxing

[frozen tide]

i just went for 9/9/12/12 on rite

[summer flower]

Its for either character testing

[drifting quest]

Remind me in like 2-3 hours

[frozen tide]

and decided best supp to crown was xai

[summer flower]

Affecting attack if dmg is checked on that operator

[drifting quest]

And ill calc it

[terse furnace]

Unfortunately Det Unit on Xaihi is bad with Yvonne, but seems Det Unit might be better overall for burst on LR

[drifting quest]

We dont check on xaihi

[summer flower]

But LR

[drifting quest]

We check last rite damage under xaihi ult

[midnight stirrup]

Aight bet

[drifting quest]

Hence we only care about xaihi int

[summer flower]

Wasnt it LR int scaling?

[frozen tide]

lr is strength will not that it matters

[drifting quest]

No xaihi ult buff scales off her int

[summer flower]

Ohh nvm

There is xaihi in team

Just not in first video

I was trying to test with fluorite

[drifting quest]

First video should be control video

No buff at all

[summer flower]

And i seemed to mess up last testing done

[frozen tide]

first vid is control yes

[summer flower]

Like numbers didnt make sense

[mystic halo]

the effects are about equivalent for LR but we usually have stanza user in team

[summer flower]

Difference in attacks without buffs

[mystic halo]

already giving +ATK

[terse furnace]

so Stanza would dilute the Chiv Virtues buff?

[mystic halo]

so it's better to dip into enemy dmg taken

[summer flower]

Flourorite carry

[mystic halo]

to a very minor extent but yes

[terse furnace]

Good to know

[mystic halo]

also last rite isn't as good at using +ATK as some others

she does not have that much attribute scaling

[frozen tide]

ok renamed the folder and vid names to help avoid confusion

[drifting quest]

Stanza perlica + therm ake + ake atk buff

One of the few cases dmg% is like a lot less saturated

[eternal sluice]

whats last rites premium team now, is it xaihi gilberta ardelia?

[frozen tide]

xaihi is pretty much must

the other 2 i have been struggling to find out

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi perlica akehuri thermite

If no thermite probably ardelia

[frozen tide]

i like ard per for rhod

for dorito it feels mid but prob just cause dorito

[midnight stirrup]

If overworld gilberta cause u cant stack aoe anyway

[frozen tide]

feels bad for marble

[midnight stirrup]

So cc feels nice

[eternal sluice]

endfield build a team without akekuri challenge

where would gilberta go then anyways

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-myrtle-gif-11316187128699095682

Gilb has 2 teams plus situationally more
Elec and Yvonne

[eternal sluice]

i own yvonne

whats yvonnes team

[midnight stirrup]

Sorry maybe I wrote it confusing

Its

[ashen scroll]

Who is elec

[eternal sluice]

electric im assuming

[midnight stirrup]

Lr xaihi perlica akehuri with thermite
Lr xaihi perlica ardelia if no thermite
Lr xaihi perlica gilberta in overworld or aoe scenarios cause u cant stack cryo anyway

So u aoe skill damage

[eternal sluice]

well at least i have a reason to put resources into perlica now

[midnight stirrup]

Akehuri is just rly good rn bc she can hold the best teambuffing sword, gives a shitload of sp back which is great for lr, doesnt conflict with cryo cause she doesnt stack heat and is sp positive bc you dont use skill

Ardelia you gotta skill to get use out of her

[mystic halo]

thermite might as well just be a character man

[frozen tide]

ive farmed 3 and a half pages of purple essence and none of them have +3 weapon passive

no twilight no deto no anything

[midnight stirrup]

Same

Its starting to piss me off

[mystic halo]

if they ever make any new vg

their sig is going to have to be better than thermite

and that's a tall goddamn order

[frozen tide]

im boutta start pulling ard sig banner just for therm

[drifting quest]

The evil link buff

[midnight stirrup]

Oh right

And the link buff

[drifting quest]

1.2x on her ult

[midnight stirrup]

Damn akehuri is stacked

[eternal sluice]

what does link buff do again

[drifting quest]

Next skill or ult after gaining link consumes it

If ult x1.2
If skill x1.3

[midnight stirrup]

Wait should I be using akehuri ult before ult

Ive been using it before combo

[drifting quest]

Link can stack but also stacking link is near impossible rn

[midnight stirrup]

Wait no

[drifting quest]

Do it before combo

For therm and her atk buff

[eternal sluice]

consumes.. what

[midnight stirrup]

What about p5 alehuri

Akehuri

[drifting quest]

Then ult consumes the link

[midnight stirrup]

Doesnt link last for combo and ult

[drifting quest]

Combo ignores it, ult consumes it

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

I see

[frozen tide]

the nefarious ake lifeng

[midnight stirrup]

It buffs damage done on

Iirc

[mystic halo]

you dont need ake + lifeng

lifeng himself is enough

[drifting quest]

Prestack lifeng combo proc ig

Doesnt lifeng combo cd last longer than link

[eternal sluice]

it buffs the next skill or ult cast?

[midnight stirrup]

Ya

@drifting quest Correct?

[eternal sluice]

does it snapshot

[drifting quest]

Non damaging skill or ult whiff it

[eternal sluice]

oh

[midnight stirrup]

It cant snapshot

[eternal sluice]

[midnight stirrup]

Its a single instance buff

Well

Ig lr technically snapshots

Cause she 3 hits in ult

[eternal sluice]

ive been using her wrong with laev then

unfortunate

[midnight stirrup]

Thats okay

Learning is good

[eternal sluice]

where would you akekuri ult in laev combo then

[hardy skiff]

The initial etch level of an essence doesn't matter much, right?
I mean, I assume that an essence that has an original etch level of 2 can be upgraded to, say, 5, but one with original etch of 1 can be upgraded to 5 as well.

[midnight stirrup]

I think akehuri might last for whole laev ult with how lae ult works

[gritty olive]

From its abailability, i cant seem to get it during the rotation

[midnight stirrup]

But could be completely wrong

Idk

[mystic halo]

6/6/3 is cap for all golds

regardless of what it starts wih

[hardy skiff]

Okay, perfect

[eternal sluice]

so..it does snapshot laev ult

[frozen tide]

thank the lord

[eternal sluice]

im so confused

[gritty olive]

So liek its only used for me, to get sp back to start a rotatioj quicker

[midnight stirrup]

Im not sure

It might but its probs wrong

[eternal sluice]

does the odds of successful etching decrease with the the current stats or the number of times the stat has been etched

[summer flower]

Yep

[mystic halo]

only the current number of pips on the line

[summer flower]

Fishing for good +/+/+ while doing 1/24 as well xD

Oof

[whole crystal]

yes

[twilit quail]

"is it x or y"
yes

[eternal sluice]

great, when i finally got a gold for laev it was 1/1/1

[whole crystal]

one dosnt exclude the other

[twilit quail]

except youre wrong in this case

so

[whole crystal]

well its the current state of the number

[whole crystal]

youre right

[twilit quail]

even if it was both you would not answer with "yes"

you would say

it's both

[terse furnace]

I saw this floating around before

Not sure where they got the stats from

[whole crystal]

I misinterpreted the implication of the or

get off my nuts

[eternal sluice]

2.7% is criminal

im pulling mini gacha when i etch essence

[midnight stirrup]

Its better than artifacts echos and relics

This feels more like mmo upgrading

[magic stream]

What set is good on Gilberta?

[next helm]

2.7? I can't even hit the 5% one

[zinc maple]

gilberta doesn't work well with lae charge build right?

[magic stream]

Ive been using her with lae over eyja and its been fine

[zinc maple]

idk if gilberta even works on any lae gameplay except when you needed her to gather multiple enemies

[magic stream]

Her clump skill triggers wulf

Then u get gil and laevatain skill

[zinc maple]

true but it triggers her combo skill too

which consume the heat infliction

[magic stream]

Ye

Just use an ake skill

Theyre all clumped